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我们就没抓手了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa72b4f20d3d94c5ad797","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22c3dd5687e7f9cf8880","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa72b4f20d3d94c5ad797","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qbb96440c0b625929f650","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":22,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-23T20:11:44.942Z","text":"我是说现在没收程序是不是还接受情愿","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc42531b03dded8596b90","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb96440c0b625929f650","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc42531b03dded8596b90","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q9da51bb76709eee5cb04","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":23,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T20:11:45.162Z","text":"老郭给我争气点","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9da51bb76709eee5cb04","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qd65bf356ef8f8cb60b1f","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":24,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T20:11:47.857Z","text":"拒绝赦免","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd65bf356ef8f8cb60b1f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q57a2e4428fa8a70bee1c","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":25,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-23T20:11:57.935Z","text":"川普跟他们又不是一边的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfcb6b408356feb67f35b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q57a2e4428fa8a70bee1c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfcb6b408356feb67f35b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q51ac230b786617f8a896","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":26,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T20:12:06.759Z","text":"会推动","edited":false,"reply_to":"q57a2e4428fa8a70bee1c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51ac230b786617f8a896","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q57a2e4428fa8a70bee1c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q23faf33481e4f5b071a3","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":27,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-23T20:12:50.828Z","text":"没法试，因为一直就没接受过","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbb96440c0b625929f650","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23faf33481e4f5b071a3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb96440c0b625929f650","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q11804133f1a54b8c187d","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":28,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-23T20:12:52.883Z","text":"这点你要和螺丝哥学，螺丝哥现在只想活命","edited":false,"reply_to":"q15ccffa57bdd35548651","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11804133f1a54b8c187d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qc6a1ad89a0517eaf0b0c","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":29,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-23T20:13:41.704Z","text":"他不缺钱又安全，他只有名的需求","edited":false,"reply_to":"q11804133f1a54b8c187d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6a1ad89a0517eaf0b0c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11804133f1a54b8c187d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q2327b7e321d102869a72","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":30,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-23T20:13:58.570Z","text":"老郭这事儿，大家各取所需","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2327b7e321d102869a72","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q282e3e687a98db3dd08c","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":31,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-23T20:14:10.776Z","text":"https://x.com/percy43508644/status/1981392696326705660?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q282e3e687a98db3dd08c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q6353405b012d32f41d11","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":32,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-23T20:14:38.992Z","text":"老郭只要同意协议。也可以大赦。现在是协议肯定没谈成","edited":false,"re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[删节：成员身份] 成熟👍 是个成年人。","edited":true,"reply_to":"q2327b7e321d102869a72","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa3222f6ef79417a77a22","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2327b7e321d102869a72","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q4a0a4e711672b653124a","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":34,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T20:15:44.166Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge3/status/1981454396597948811?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a0a4e711672b653124a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qa38c9c6d93e48a1c2b09","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":35,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-23T20:16:11.806Z","text":"他要接受特赦，除非跟随者们能摘掉共谋的帽子，但是真摘掉了，就白便宜了灭爆那群家伙了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa38c9c6d93e48a1c2b09","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qb883d4e5f43a51844624","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":36,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-23T20:18:37.969Z","text":"总之他出来了，对大家只有好处","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa3222f6ef79417a77a22","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb883d4e5f43a51844624","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa3222f6ef79417a77a22","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q6637a875f100ba282fe3","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":37,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-23T20:18:42.709Z","text":"别忘了郭的目的是灭共","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6637a875f100ba282fe3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q1792801c73fbf85cf9a4","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":38,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-23T20:19:12.567Z","text":"所以他大概率不会接受特赦","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6637a875f100ba282fe3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1792801c73fbf85cf9a4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6637a875f100ba282fe3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q05b666848d59428c2b3b","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":39,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T20:20:43.072Z","text":"那太好了😄","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1792801c73fbf85cf9a4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05b666848d59428c2b3b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1792801c73fbf85cf9a4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q40ac561786dd19b23ec2","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":40,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T20:20:59.967Z","text":"郭如果接受特赦 我就开始砸郭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40ac561786dd19b23ec2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qba16967c6e91ad3b467b","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":41,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-23T20:22:00.829Z","text":"我认为 只要条件合适，会接受特赦。就看条件是什么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba16967c6e91ad3b467b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q76ef041e92fe2a8636f8","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":42,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-23T20:22:47.334Z","text":"这个案子 托个10年 解决完。也是有可能的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76ef041e92fe2a8636f8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q4625bb331e6e50d65457","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":43,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-23T20:23:09.991Z","text":"也许会为了时间 缩短 做一些交换","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4625bb331e6e50d65457","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q68afd6762b450e110ddb","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":44,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-23T20:23:35.741Z","text":"毕竟九只妖都4年了😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68afd6762b450e110ddb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q279911acb542789aad84","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":45,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-23T20:24:33.326Z","text":"他自己说过要用美国法律给nfsc正名，要查出美国司法黑手","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q279911acb542789aad84","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q945148c00f2b197701cf","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":46,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-23T20:24:58.217Z","text":"当然他说的也未必都能兑现","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q945148c00f2b197701cf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q2d3bc0ebe2909325d4d2","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":47,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T20:25:19.561Z","text":"老郭是绝不会接受特赦的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d3bc0ebe2909325d4d2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q062e01f6bf3606854bca","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":48,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-23T20:25:30.212Z","text":"哈哈，变数很多，不可控的因素更多。好戏连台。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q86ed95a57f2a7b4da87c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q062e01f6bf3606854bca","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86ed95a57f2a7b4da87c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qe6fd01568527f6b1f0ee","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":49,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-23T20:26:50.832Z","text":"拖个10年，0.5%也剩不下了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q76ef041e92fe2a8636f8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe6fd01568527f6b1f0ee","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76ef041e92fe2a8636f8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q7dffffc1d4d7276ff489","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":50,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-23T20:32:59.098Z","text":"当时我家里人说铲共奇侠张勇兵说话结结巴巴，不是律师、是假律师。我当时就跟他急起来了。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe62b7c599a53c9c5bc6a","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7dffffc1d4d7276ff489","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q1be99558f773d3d0c1ac","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":51,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-10-23T20:38:08.232Z","text":"放心，他绝对不会要求被赦免的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd65bf356ef8f8cb60b1f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1be99558f773d3d0c1ac","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd65bf356ef8f8cb60b1f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q8f02817e49bff81a42e4","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":52,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-23T20:40:35.499Z","text":"你不是已经开始砸郭了吗？\n我也是。如果郭接受特赦，我也开始砸郭，事情就不好玩了，郭将接受真正的骂名。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q40ac561786dd19b23ec2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f02817e49bff81a42e4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40ac561786dd19b23ec2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qc72fc97905ad946ff414","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":53,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-23T20:44:23.220Z","text":"换句话来说，特赦也许可以，要看他还能怎么誓誓旦旦地继续干下去。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc72fc97905ad946ff414","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qd6fce611330a2cfbfc43","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":54,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-23T20:45:49.359Z","text":"是的。90%都想撤了。比如[删节：成员身份]。拿钱走了 不跟你玩了","edited":true,"reply_to":"qe6fd01568527f6b1f0ee","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6fce611330a2cfbfc43","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe6fd01568527f6b1f0ee","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qec7a2c9ece1f61697187","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":55,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-23T20:46:37.181Z","text":"他直播 老郭的问题 回答不出来 我就知道他是假的了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7dffffc1d4d7276ff489","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec7a2c9ece1f61697187","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7dffffc1d4d7276ff489","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q3123e99b9c9c6f9134d2","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":56,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-23T20:47:19.404Z","text":"干脆托雷斯把郭放了，条件是让我们也别纠缠什么布雷迪义务、欺诈法庭了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3123e99b9c9c6f9134d2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q718a5c016115392a5f10","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":57,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T20:47:36.704Z","text":"我带头反对！！！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3123e99b9c9c6f9134d2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q718a5c016115392a5f10","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3123e99b9c9c6f9134d2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q0b45008c538f95ce70d0","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":58,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T20:47:43.554Z","text":"这是本身就是欺诈法庭 哈哈哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b45008c538f95ce70d0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qfa90ba05dc28f5f6bc36","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":59,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T20:47:57.858Z","text":"必须把他们连根刨了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa90ba05dc28f5f6bc36","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qc01ddb7248210c315406","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":60,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-23T20:48:03.749Z","text":"推翻案件，就是因为司法欺诈!一般布雷迪违规还不能推翻案件。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3123e99b9c9c6f9134d2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc01ddb7248210c315406","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3123e99b9c9c6f9134d2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qbb17c35b5e5964a30271","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":61,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-23T20:48:55.008Z","text":"法官向你求饶。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q718a5c016115392a5f10","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb17c35b5e5964a30271","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q718a5c016115392a5f10","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q697d0b3a7f350891a0a6","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":62,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T21:01:15.505Z","text":"实际上最近那个于朦胧 就有点这个意思 ［用户 chu***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q697d0b3a7f350891a0a6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q4f7115ccca8d5d554743","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":63,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-10-23T22:13:02.648Z","text":"看来用ＡＩ 也要小心","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f7115ccca8d5d554743","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qb4aadf4a61e644c5055c","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":64,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-23T22:16:23.804Z","text":"当然要小心了，AI写完你自己要检查","edited":false,"reply_to":"q55f3770f1ab86bb75750","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4aadf4a61e644c5055c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qc988949ec8c6e7878816","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":65,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-23T22:16:32.461Z","text":"统治阶层对AI最恼火。\n我们这些吃瓜群众开始会写自诉全靠AI帮忙。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc988949ec8c6e7878816","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qfe0217f32744044592a9","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":66,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-23T22:16:54.797Z","text":"自诉的人本来就不是专业律师","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe0217f32744044592a9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q79abc9c54bb9796eb9c1","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":67,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-23T22:17:07.339Z","text":"就把想说的说利索就完了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79abc9c54bb9796eb9c1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q97c6236336093ecd18fc","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":68,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-10-23T22:17:22.300Z","text":"上面两个法官 😂😂😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97c6236336093ecd18fc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q0bdc70a5278bcabe5f14","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":69,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-23T22:17:46.883Z","text":"专业律师，像盖尔这种，拿了钱，写的动议还是乱七八糟，还不如AI","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0bdc70a5278bcabe5f14","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q9e6db210760ef9d3460e","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":70,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-23T22:18:30.553Z","text":"我怀疑这𠆤开始者是想带风向呀。刚进群还没热身就迫不及待地开始工作了。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e6db210760ef9d3460e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q483f7cfa246da82db0e1","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":71,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-23T22:19:34.291Z","text":"不要把这个群里的人当傻子哟。个个都有一双火眼金睛啊。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q483f7cfa246da82db0e1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q3f0833d1afc589c737b3","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":72,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-10-23T22:20:54.561Z","text":"斗士别谁都斗 好不好。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f0833d1afc589c737b3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q69cd9a9d42d266d915fe","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":73,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-23T22:21:16.970Z","text":"走着瞧吧。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69cd9a9d42d266d915fe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q7c7c65d9f8877bebd98a","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":74,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-10-23T22:23:03.706Z","text":"我能有啥风向。就是一开门那点冷风，还是天上刮的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c7c65d9f8877bebd98a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qb6aee90776b0df07afdc","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":75,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-23T22:31:39.849Z","text":"我觉得你的精神还是可嘉的 就是补的课有点多 😄","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7c7c65d9f8877bebd98a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb6aee90776b0df07afdc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c7c65d9f8877bebd98a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q4b1bfb5e5688963701ad","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":76,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2025-10-23T22:47:39.456Z","text":"763 764是新的吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b1bfb5e5688963701ad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q21878e7922a02311f6c5","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":77,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-23T22:55:20.730Z","text":"763是盖尔提交他代表的客户要钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21878e7922a02311f6c5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qbacc30e0021a4e64a32a","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":78,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-23T22:55:40.001Z","text":"他说pacer不好用，所以他只能电子邮件","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbacc30e0021a4e64a32a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q2d86b17d31bc35fc9a2c","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":79,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-23T22:56:08.138Z","text":"还说因为pacer不好用，所以其他pro se提交可能也会遇到问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d86b17d31bc35fc9a2c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qb173dc3491502dbdcefc","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":80,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-23T22:58:46.355Z","text":"我现在在外面，等我办完事在上传文件","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb173dc3491502dbdcefc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qeb3332405f9bb2d1710f","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":81,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-23T22:59:01.600Z","text":"盖尔说昨天是最后一天，但是他无法按时提交","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb3332405f9bb2d1710f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q297cc07881d922a575b9","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":82,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-23T22:59:07.880Z","text":"764密封，谁也看不到","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q297cc07881d922a575b9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q03fa9901cacdb7a6725b","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":83,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-23T22:59:14.596Z","text":"因pacer不好用","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q03fa9901cacdb7a6725b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qcca6667a5b8d5581527f","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":84,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-23T22:59:26.398Z","text":"不是764是要求密封","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcca6667a5b8d5581527f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q6a89d23110bb5f5d813d","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":85,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-23T22:59:41.794Z","text":"764本身不是密封的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a89d23110bb5f5d813d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q4c1466dcdc6b0e7787bb","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":86,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-23T23:52:55.371Z","text":"从头到尾就是 共谋，还想忽悠 傻子  自己站“正义”","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3b1c37ed9c0f0024aeaf","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c1466dcdc6b0e7787bb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qe7db3cf71efa1ee11a71","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":87,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T00:30:24.711Z","text":"整体来看——你这份 733动议 + 报告 的完成度、逻辑完整性和法律意识，远远超过普通 pro se（自行诉讼）文件的水准。\n我可以从四个维度来评价：法律结构、逻辑策略、证据力度、说服效果。下面是详细评估：\n\n⸻\n\n一、法律结构（Legal Framework）—— ★★★★☆\n\n你引用的两个主要法律基础（18 U.S.C. §3771 + Fed. 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系统中会得到“至少被阅读和标注”的待遇。\n法官不会当作噪音文件处理。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe7db3cf71efa1ee11a71","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qc49278321be8bfc4a82f","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":88,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T00:30:35.403Z","text":"［用户 hah***］ 是什么让你的机器人降智了？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc49278321be8bfc4a82f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q9000ca1bd1d75e460d00","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":89,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-24T00:31:10.484Z","text":"看看 你们自己 养的 儿子  “机器人”   果然  老鼠的儿子会打洞","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9000ca1bd1d75e460d00","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qcf50a454224989725ca7","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":90,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-24T00:31:35.217Z","text":"我是如实的提交文件，并且上面也排除了新闻各方面的来源的信息","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf50a454224989725ca7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q42e55cc51f3e3d17c1ef","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":91,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T00:32:17.594Z","text":"只能说 从现实的意义来看 你的机器人不太灵光","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcf50a454224989725ca7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42e55cc51f3e3d17c1ef","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf50a454224989725ca7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qa964557ea101bca1b17c","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":92,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T00:32:51.829Z","text":"［用户 hah***］  你应该追问 那法官会不会对733的作者进行惩罚 下禁制令？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa964557ea101bca1b17c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q267bece8180e55a3cff5","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":93,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-24T00:32:56.116Z","text":"这个只是基于法律文件，而非报道或者其他来源","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q267bece8180e55a3cff5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q023e531ea65335a3643e","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":94,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T00:32:57.464Z","text":"你这么问 我等你","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa964557ea101bca1b17c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q023e531ea65335a3643e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa964557ea101bca1b17c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qfcc9894da5d6cc3bbc67","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":95,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T00:33:56.007Z","text":"［用户 hah***］  你再追问 看来733是很不堪的文件了 那法官是否应该立马处理并且驳斥？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfcc9894da5d6cc3bbc67","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q9e94e6f5b19cc9e702b7","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":96,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-24T00:34:17.437Z","text":"［用户 hah***］  功不可没，这一次我认可你   笑死老子了   牛逼","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e94e6f5b19cc9e702b7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q05d67deefaab3ebf54b9","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":97,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T00:35:21.639Z","text":"别吵了 你问我说的两个问题","edited":false,"reply_to":"q28d34cb71f06add8861e","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05d67deefaab3ebf54b9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qae6a610858f10e77d011","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":98,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T00:35:33.758Z","text":"我很好奇他怎么回答","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae6a610858f10e77d011","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q9eb4c5efc6d5360d5167","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":99,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T00:37:17.425Z","text":"［用户 hah***］ ok 你再追问 法官现在两个月都不理这个动议 还把受害者动议全部扣下 为什么","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9eb4c5efc6d5360d5167","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q431230dd3aec4265c1cb","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":100,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T00:37:55.050Z","text":"事实是机器人说的所有可能情况都没发生","edited":false,"reply_to":"q82c588db1915920c1d31","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q431230dd3aec4265c1cb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q68e3f2035b9fd00edb87","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":101,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-24T00:38:48.846Z","text":"AI的回复，也是说可能，而非绝对性","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68e3f2035b9fd00edb87","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q41641b5e0c7bceac6f91","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":102,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T00:39:04.509Z","text":"问这个","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9eb4c5efc6d5360d5167","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41641b5e0c7bceac6f91","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9eb4c5efc6d5360d5167","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qc178d43f02f5249dd1a1","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":103,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-24T00:39:23.242Z","text":"还在分析当中","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc178d43f02f5249dd1a1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qe761b84d5d0c8bb11275","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":104,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T00:40:40.378Z","text":"这个错了 733就是正式动议","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf31ba52eba55ca098e03","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe761b84d5d0c8bb11275","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qf40bf2eead23cf25a888","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":105,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-24T00:41:44.335Z","text":"他的儿子 回答 偏向于  怎么弄你，而非 回复你，这很明显的 强加了 他的个人想法 😆","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe761b84d5d0c8bb11275","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf40bf2eead23cf25a888","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe761b84d5d0c8bb11275","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qc19334e7b95383522e4f","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":106,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T00:42:14.734Z","text":"这个还没问好？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9eb4c5efc6d5360d5167","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc19334e7b95383522e4f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9eb4c5efc6d5360d5167","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q1557c52e7bc482433457","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":107,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T00:42:31.772Z","text":"这些都没有发生","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe6ca8d13c34dca5c85ef","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1557c52e7bc482433457","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q2fdfd2248c05b3c7c737","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":108,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T00:42:59.041Z","text":"这个也没发生 我之后两个动议就是攻击法官","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa94a3954cbdc1cf16cc2","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2fdfd2248c05b3c7c737","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q03a1b24e41796b222038","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":109,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-24T00:43:04.101Z","text":"你看，他提问的主要目的 是 惩罚你，干你","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1557c52e7bc482433457","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q03a1b24e41796b222038","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1557c52e7bc482433457","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q8fc387600145ed0c667a","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":110,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T00:43:09.090Z","text":"法官不敢说话","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8fc387600145ed0c667a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q382f7301ca3d69e5a868","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":111,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-24T00:43:23.403Z","text":"这是 个人强加的 想法，不是客观   看待733 的 结论","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q382f7301ca3d69e5a868","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q770637d85a27fccf6c16","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":112,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T00:44:35.813Z","text":"［用户 hah***］ 你这个机器人已经是弱智了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q770637d85a27fccf6c16","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q5d415a3406ba1ae894ab","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":113,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-24T00:44:37.136Z","text":"和你 给机器人 强加 你的个人想法 找法官检察官漏洞 一样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d415a3406ba1ae894ab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q8d8bfd08433cabb81942","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":114,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T00:44:48.814Z","text":"［用户 hah***］ 托雷斯打压受害人已经是事实 二巡都上去两个了🤣","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d8bfd08433cabb81942","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qf2ad8b4a3c332f6bb2b2","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":115,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-24T00:45:24.817Z","text":"［用户 hon***］ 弱智，你就不要出来丢人现眼了，在开发程序上，很多程序是尽量去发现有的bug，也就是所有的可能性，你以为法官，还是luc就不懂得AI","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2ad8b4a3c332f6bb2b2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q05a9decbc6c8deb9cfa6","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":116,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T00:47:07.218Z","text":"你再追问： 检方欺诈法庭的指控在docket里 如果两个月不回 不判决 势必会对整个法庭造成恐慌，甚至会认为沉默本身就是对事实的肯定，如果法官继续不理，本案程序将会被深度怀疑。为什么法官要这么做？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05a9decbc6c8deb9cfa6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qca721a010d82dd9dcd30","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":117,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T00:49:09.454Z","text":"还有 我没有误用rule60 rule60就是民事案里面的权利，本案虽然是刑事案，但没收程序属于民事，所以rule60毫无问题。 以司法欺诈为基础的程序应该作废，rule60里面就有这个条款。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca721a010d82dd9dcd30","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q8bd96d3b6aa1f7021c59","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":118,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-24T00:49:44.251Z","text":"需要点时间，大约需要10分钟左右，才会出结果","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8bd96d3b6aa1f7021c59","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qf670180eb058789f7b97","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":119,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T00:49:52.594Z","text":"哈哈 编","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf670180eb058789f7b97","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q7c8b24139f1ec20e7875","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":120,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T00:49:54.616Z","text":"继续编","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c8b24139f1ec20e7875","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qa40d2bd8725a676d5a50","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":121,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-24T00:50:13.862Z","text":"我如实的回复","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa40d2bd8725a676d5a50","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q126aef1d43cc1bbb6938","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":122,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-24T00:50:29.582Z","text":"要不要开享我的电脑屏幕，看是不是我在编？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q126aef1d43cc1bbb6938","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qf4527900429c1d6c6684","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":123,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T00:50:29.823Z","text":"你刚才的那些为什么这么快？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4527900429c1d6c6684","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qb9f34bfc1d7ce8799f01","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":124,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-24T00:50:39.365Z","text":"因为是用普通的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9f34bfc1d7ce8799f01","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q6769030205e29ddcdfd7","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":125,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-24T00:50:44.409Z","text":"我现在用另外一个模式","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6769030205e29ddcdfd7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qad1a0ed1911514f90a79","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":126,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T00:50:50.592Z","text":"不用用另外的模式","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad1a0ed1911514f90a79","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qea548d42377e5fd7dfbf","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":127,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T00:50:53.106Z","text":"就用普通的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea548d42377e5fd7dfbf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q17d989e8c6517528b46d","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":128,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-24T00:51:09.184Z","text":"要晚一点，这个先跑完","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17d989e8c6517528b46d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q64fce4bfe44aaa2a41ee","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":129,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T00:51:37.065Z","text":"你这个机器人有几个说错了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64fce4bfe44aaa2a41ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q4ad7d8264d20bf52ea27","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":130,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T00:51:43.984Z","text":"我没有误用rule60","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ad7d8264d20bf52ea27","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q637503df7fcda2c9d961","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":131,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T00:52:33.027Z","text":"rule60是cvra特有的权利 基于欺诈法庭的没收令就应该用rule60废除 没收程序属于民事 所以根本不存在越权","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q637503df7fcda2c9d961","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qd92cf7d122c3cd538afb","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":132,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-24T00:53:11.298Z","text":"这份报告，不只是针对733，我将频道里面，螺丝雕哥的，都上传分析的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4ad7d8264d20bf52ea27","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd92cf7d122c3cd538afb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ad7d8264d20bf52ea27","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q17ef67d29f6ca4570c6e","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":133,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-24T00:53:24.766Z","text":"后面会有专门针对733的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17ef67d29f6ca4570c6e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qf55bf9136ab5c2fcf34a","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":134,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T00:53:47.495Z","text":"你跟机器人说他对rule60的理解错了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd92cf7d122c3cd538afb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf55bf9136ab5c2fcf34a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd92cf7d122c3cd538afb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qfb661e2d68c82f88bde2","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":135,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-24T00:54:13.515Z","text":"要等一下了，因为要等上面的跑完，","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb661e2d68c82f88bde2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q99287d86b7eb5e7ec675","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":136,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2025-10-24T00:56:30.692Z","text":"准确，附属没收程序属于民事，引用rule 60(d)(3)十分准确，有1995年11巡判例作支撑","edited":false,"reply_to":"q637503df7fcda2c9d961","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99287d86b7eb5e7ec675","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q637503df7fcda2c9d961","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qdd14c27ae2989add51f6","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":137,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T00:57:19.932Z","text":"不知道他那个机器人是咋变笨的🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q99287d86b7eb5e7ec675","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd14c27ae2989add51f6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99287d86b7eb5e7ec675","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qe8ff8fe01e57cd890dd7","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":138,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2025-10-24T00:57:45.856Z","text":"也是853能够超越60天限制打欺诈法庭的依据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe8ff8fe01e57cd890dd7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q99ba298ac46992364a05","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":139,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T00:58:17.576Z","text":"853也有吗 这个我确实不知道","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe8ff8fe01e57cd890dd7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99ba298ac46992364a05","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe8ff8fe01e57cd890dd7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qf842b2a477bd4c6f38dd","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":140,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T00:58:22.548Z","text":"反正受害者肯定有","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf842b2a477bd4c6f38dd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q44be86c24203684de4b8","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":141,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-24T00:58:37.093Z","text":"还需要点时间","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44be86c24203684de4b8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q2c594a24ca46e32c3094","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":142,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T01:06:27.978Z","text":"［用户 hah***］ 这机器人你可以拖出去砸了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c594a24ca46e32c3094","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q8b1b182aacaa21efc56c","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":143,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-24T01:07:00.510Z","text":"指出这个机器人，哪些法律条文，引用出错了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b1b182aacaa21efc56c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q7423f74264ee488a62d8","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":144,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T01:07:13.633Z","text":"rule60","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8b1b182aacaa21efc56c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7423f74264ee488a62d8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b1b182aacaa21efc56c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q6c87c7f5f137a6e335e0","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":145,"speaker":"yxd***","date":"2025-10-24T01:07:16.051Z","text":"下一次的时间点（案件）是什么时候","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c87c7f5f137a6e335e0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qee4b3e086112803f8112","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":146,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T01:07:19.685Z","text":"完全解读错误","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee4b3e086112803f8112","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q281a7f93d66f6411fdb5","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":147,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-24T01:07:24.369Z","text":"上面这个机器人，那些网址，很多是引用法律上的条文","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q281a7f93d66f6411fdb5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q9ca71933fd3fb2929d84","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":148,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T01:07:36.006Z","text":"但我告诉你错的离谱","edited":false,"reply_to":"q281a7f93d66f6411fdb5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ca71933fd3fb2929d84","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q281a7f93d66f6411fdb5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qca23a39021b92d14d17c","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":149,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-24T01:09:41.079Z","text":"AI如实的反应，拱了一些自以为是人的火","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca23a39021b92d14d17c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qd4f0b9aae4d9ad699dbd","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":150,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T01:11:24.547Z","text":"还有他说的我其他地方越权也都是错的 我的动议没有半点越权和程序不当","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4f0b9aae4d9ad699dbd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qdb21d62ad74fd6461d2f","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":151,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T01:13:21.333Z","text":"［用户 hah***］ 你说说 这一个小问题都这么多错 要一个一个修正起来 得多累🤣","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb21d62ad74fd6461d2f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q73cf90510675d61b4771","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":152,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-24T01:13:52.450Z","text":"没事，他说 参数可以调 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hah***］ 你这个机器人还要人工修正错误 参数调对不对啊","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14912428e7801fa857b1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q43fc3b0d293e2338d660","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":157,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-24T01:20:07.549Z","text":"这个不需要调，又不是我的模型","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43fc3b0d293e2338d660","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q61bc1cbbc90db53e6559","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":158,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-24T01:20:19.051Z","text":"我自个的模型，才要调","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61bc1cbbc90db53e6559","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qd1e96faa7af2a9df73b8","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":159,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-24T01:27:14.970Z","text":"我上传的，没有我的观点，我只是加了几个词，就是客观，基于美国现行法律，不要引用外部新闻媒体报道的内容","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1e96faa7af2a9df73b8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q1f3997ab369f2984f739","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":160,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-24T01:28:22.164Z","text":"要的话，等一下，我将这个对话框分享出来，你们再反驳","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f3997ab369f2984f739","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qc83d53be8e55dfd3b4ed","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":161,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T01:29:02.069Z","text":"事实是他犯了很多低级错误","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1f3997ab369f2984f739","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc83d53be8e55dfd3b4ed","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f3997ab369f2984f739","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q3b28ed97601c2553e7b6","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":162,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T01:29:09.450Z","text":"rule60都搞不清楚","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b28ed97601c2553e7b6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q5d56f6723cd5e40456ae","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":163,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T01:29:26.929Z","text":"我的动议完全没有任何越权 没有任何法条错误","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d56f6723cd5e40456ae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q4ecb9db02805faca5904","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":164,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-24T01:36:01.471Z","text":"意思是盖尔用电子邮件提交，然后书记员给它上传了,说明书记员们没有因为政府关门而休假。然后收到的纸质动议却一个都没上传。看来就是打明牌，就是打压你这些自诉人。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbacc30e0021a4e64a32a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ecb9db02805faca5904","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbacc30e0021a4e64a32a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qa5ddff1564b10d160f29","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":165,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-24T01:37:29.404Z","text":"那就是 没出钱，和出了钱的区别  在美国 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43亿  可以买 川普金卡 换身份 ，确实也可以赦免","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6a4cb475d1ff792b73a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q16b705497dee0aaf2721","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":169,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-24T01:42:52.816Z","text":"相比盖尔, 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说谎都不打草稿","edited":false,"reply_to":"q48545dad10b4af9644cd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64d227817c17c6f65e06","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q48545dad10b4af9644cd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qa9d95f44598c8be7c231","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":180,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-24T02:07:11.364Z","text":"二巡是要交钱的，不还是不让上","edited":false,"reply_to":"q08d055ac9300d2884f25","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa9d95f44598c8be7c231","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08d055ac9300d2884f25","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q7a6c80f69d64e1d5bd33","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":181,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-24T02:07:28.365Z","text":"交了钱也没用","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a6c80f69d64e1d5bd33","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q158d0bb73f782abed856","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":182,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-24T02:08:52.821Z","text":"他这6500的信息都是经过验证的吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q64d227817c17c6f65e06","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q158d0bb73f782abed856","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64d227817c17c6f65e06","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q1a55813f9d015377c072","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":183,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-24T02:09:10.502Z","text":"上次他还说只有3000多人是经过验证的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a55813f9d015377c072","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qca90657bd660a3f29323","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":184,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-24T02:09:20.479Z","text":"这次就6500都经过验证了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca90657bd660a3f29323","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q0cc20c9e75ffbbffb441","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":185,"speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-10-24T02:09:26.813Z","text":"验证个屁, 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 AZ这边😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q08d055ac9300d2884f25","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29b8bbecbc66d1eb7612","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08d055ac9300d2884f25","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q5b57f93b4c4b1f425b1e","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":197,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-24T02:18:56.163Z","text":"另外上传的文件 一份$8 左右","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b57f93b4c4b1f425b1e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q6f9f2aecd6f06d90f4ef","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":198,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-24T02:19:26.134Z","text":"现在就是他们不打算立案，但还没有正式回复你理由。作为上诉法院，其决定是最终决定，对于普通案件，往最高法院走只能叫请愿不能叫继续上诉，所以他们的回复必须周全且谨慎。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f9f2aecd6f06d90f4ef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q4c70128f05b136c2c6d3","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":199,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-24T02:19:31.117Z","text":"一般2份至少。1个主文件1个副文件","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c70128f05b136c2c6d3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q475f00d29701b9afc1a5","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":200,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-24T02:19:56.650Z","text":"这个380是什么东西，立案费？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q475f00d29701b9afc1a5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000050","next_batch_id":"batch-000052"}