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chi***］ 欢迎你交流郭文贵刑事案件。百分之百言论自由畅所欲言，新老联盟农场羊帮质疑绝对不可能给你言论自由。这里有。欢迎你介绍你的小伙伴也进来交流郭文贵刑事案件","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d58dfb43d72b781a29c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q9e220516e707fb167eca","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":610,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-24T13:33:11.329Z","text":"［用户 sea***］ <> 欢迎你交流郭文贵刑事案件。百分之百言论自由畅所欲言，新老联盟农场羊帮质疑绝对不可能给你言论自由。这里有。欢迎你介绍你的小伙伴也进来交流郭文贵刑事案件","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e220516e707fb167eca","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q5c3d46ca3fda9d1c24b7","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":611,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-24T13:37:56.905Z","text":"Luc做谁的污点证人？他要反普衡吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q170b689e87f862c15741","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c3d46ca3fda9d1c24b7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q170b689e87f862c15741","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q01505950a6dbf71b3330","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":612,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-24T13:42:45.180Z","text":"Luc作为受托人有这权力吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0eaca11429df59659456","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01505950a6dbf71b3330","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0eaca11429df59659456","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qed8b7a56e7d098977ffb","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":613,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-24T14:02:15.212Z","text":"看错问题了。有的，破产文件523就是大家说的宇宙追杀令，只要认为属于被告就临时扣押，没有第三方挑战或者无论怎么挑战法官都驳回，就成了事实上无限扣押。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q01505950a6dbf71b3330","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed8b7a56e7d098977ffb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01505950a6dbf71b3330","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qa0d4d7743d563bf28f63","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":614,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-24T15:01:51.476Z","text":"［用户 guo***］ <8887080> <> 欢迎你交流郭文贵刑事案件。百分之百言论自由畅所欲言，新老联盟农场羊帮质疑绝对不可能给你言论自由。这里有。欢迎你介绍你的小伙伴也进来交流郭文贵刑事案件","edited":true,"reply_to":"q9e220516e707fb167eca","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0d4d7743d563bf28f63","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e220516e707fb167eca","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q6b22cf9dec7f906e233f","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":615,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-24T15:02:13.870Z","text":"卧槽，你可以啊，把我的 口头禅 学会了  follow the money  👍","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3300a1f8d9f326a12f75","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b22cf9dec7f906e233f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q2469ab709538cc04b2de","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":616,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-24T15:03:17.281Z","text":"那是老郭经常说的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6b22cf9dec7f906e233f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2469ab709538cc04b2de","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b22cf9dec7f906e233f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q4eb06af2e9e210a2ae51","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":617,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-24T15:05:30.623Z","text":"以前咋没听其他人说过呢","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2469ab709538cc04b2de","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4eb06af2e9e210a2ae51","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2469ab709538cc04b2de","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qbb6efdc408546e2f4b97","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":618,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-24T15:05:47.772Z","text":"既然老郭常说，很多人应该都会啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb6efdc408546e2f4b97","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qac0ad43991da97a9a93f","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":619,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-24T15:07:54.356Z","text":"她肯定有情报  怎么总能找到 假律师来免费给战友 科普  😆","edited":false,"reply_to":"q126641eb8b5359608adc","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qac0ad43991da97a9a93f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q0d336648f61d217b2a3b","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":620,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-24T15:09:15.368Z","text":"Luc不打算来了吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0cc7863787c0f37fb9db","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d336648f61d217b2a3b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qd27fc737259b20467a4b","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":621,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-24T15:10:36.756Z","text":"吓得不敢来了?","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd27fc737259b20467a4b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qce72b46fee1f687b84aa","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":622,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-24T15:11:40.270Z","text":"债权人 最后都是 luc 的 尸骨","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb978bf367c85bf694c4d","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce72b46fee1f687b84aa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q03559a37758a96197d08","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":623,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-24T15:12:05.378Z","text":"6000人 也最后都是  盖尔的 尸骨","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q03559a37758a96197d08","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q24efcfbd159043d24834","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":624,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-24T15:12:16.499Z","text":"目前 只有  gaveman  代表的 感觉不会","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q24efcfbd159043d24834","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q9ec862625fbfa365bb67","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":625,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-24T15:14:04.874Z","text":"https://x.com/Haier918/status/1981740796807200818","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ec862625fbfa365bb67","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q31932fac1e7e5f4f76a0","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":626,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-24T15:18:51.022Z","text":"Gavenman,也一样，全部涉嫌合同欺诈，当然，他只有联盟农场的欺诈。也涉嫌共谋","edited":false,"reply_to":"q24efcfbd159043d24834","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31932fac1e7e5f4f76a0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q24efcfbd159043d24834","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qef1007c14db0ae721a47","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":627,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-24T15:20:24.108Z","text":"盖尔要是聪明，就应该向luc学习","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef1007c14db0ae721a47","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q9aca374879847f511eaa","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":628,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-24T15:20:40.303Z","text":"啥也别说，不来要钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9aca374879847f511eaa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qb69af299f5ccaee754e8","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":629,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-24T15:21:23.234Z","text":"人家luc多聪明，直接引528，说我作为第三方，无权反驳其他人的指控","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb69af299f5ccaee754e8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qb7c4a72a0c751d9e6ad9","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":630,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-24T15:21:37.137Z","text":"盖尔这[屏蔽词]，睁眼说瞎话","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7c4a72a0c751d9e6ad9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q37390e9a06eea85ffa58","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":631,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T15:22:20.791Z","text":"luc直接消失","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb69af299f5ccaee754e8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37390e9a06eea85ffa58","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb69af299f5ccaee754e8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q97b91c32a9743f46b760","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":632,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T15:22:25.432Z","text":"也算是一种自保","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97b91c32a9743f46b760","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qfbf6019713235b70e6ac","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":633,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-24T15:35:52.814Z","text":"就连gavenman也没有像盖尔一样跳出来反驳指控啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfbf6019713235b70e6ac","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qb4767f6e05972d8ffd64","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":634,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-24T15:36:08.441Z","text":"人家gavenman该干啥干啥","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4767f6e05972d8ffd64","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q56f37b040d13f421d5fb","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":635,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-24T15:36:46.996Z","text":"盖尔就是一[屏蔽词]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56f37b040d13f421d5fb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q6da7215343909fc0ba54","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":636,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T15:37:00.345Z","text":"盖儿感觉有点像朱贝贝","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6da7215343909fc0ba54","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q189d496f98df46cb32f5","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":637,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T15:37:03.756Z","text":"各种做法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q189d496f98df46cb32f5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q9d62e1ed888586a2ef90","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":638,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T15:37:09.053Z","text":"神秘兮兮","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d62e1ed888586a2ef90","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q167b5ea5862295f7f64b","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":639,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-24T15:38:22.483Z","text":"也不知道是盖尔自己[屏蔽词]，还是别人要他这么[屏蔽词]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q167b5ea5862295f7f64b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q55326303b9bc093236be","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":640,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T15:38:56.517Z","text":"我觉得盖尔这么写自有他的用意","edited":false,"reply_to":"q167b5ea5862295f7f64b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55326303b9bc093236be","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q167b5ea5862295f7f64b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q9a325f4c03cdefbd3617","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":641,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T15:39:13.105Z","text":"因为我们受害者闹事 是一个基本事实","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a325f4c03cdefbd3617","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q8d40f34d394ba6e91b8a","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":642,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-24T15:39:29.914Z","text":"有啥用意，我一直觉得盖尔就不是真正的律师，他就是来搞笑的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q55326303b9bc093236be","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d40f34d394ba6e91b8a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55326303b9bc093236be","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qcee7d7c940e7653935a1","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":643,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T15:39:39.978Z","text":"gaveman是853吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcee7d7c940e7653935a1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qdebe11c4cb0eaa754d9b","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":644,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T15:39:44.558Z","text":"盖尔是受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdebe11c4cb0eaa754d9b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qff61598d5e540eb6498c","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":645,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-24T15:44:55.725Z","text":"盖尔，要是正常，就上来一次就闭嘴，等最后宣判之前更新人数或者不更新，最后提交给检方就好。他也是，在法庭上上蹿下跳，演戏","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff61598d5e540eb6498c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q29c291f595fe3bf5f8f9","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":646,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-24T15:51:57.170Z","text":"这一次，检方怎么不提程序减免退给受害者啊？对王亚平的程序减免对郭文贵也有效啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29c291f595fe3bf5f8f9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qa3356aeafdf657bd30fb","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":647,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-24T15:57:14.704Z","text":"［用户 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网站登记","edited":false,"reply_to":"q29c291f595fe3bf5f8f9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79978c05d47d2e7a175d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29c291f595fe3bf5f8f9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q15b608cb9f26a3eb60c4","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":650,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-24T17:02:54.302Z","text":"王艳萍 那边 自己上去的 总共800份","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaba3843d6e05044c1813","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15b608cb9f26a3eb60c4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qa81e68b0c677c05042dd","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":651,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-24T17:06:12.692Z","text":"是不是看到第三方动议都打他不敢来了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q97b91c32a9743f46b760","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa81e68b0c677c05042dd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97b91c32a9743f46b760","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qc0dcfd4be19f4c737d28","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":652,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T17:06:20.798Z","text":"肯定的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa81e68b0c677c05042dd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0dcfd4be19f4c737d28","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa81e68b0c677c05042dd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q560509f3a7d6d844b07d","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":653,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-24T17:06:49.422Z","text":"他们说七箱子，咋不说六箱子，八箱子，莫非他们也是七哥粉丝？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q560509f3a7d6d844b07d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qbf7be389345446f28f3e","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":654,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-24T17:07:27.553Z","text":"不打自招，越抹越黑","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfbf6019713235b70e6ac","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf7be389345446f28f3e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfbf6019713235b70e6ac","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qd2d023658982774ff2b5","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":655,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-24T17:07:32.562Z","text":"我在群里发过  是  乐闻风  发过的推","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc0ba8ce7fd316adf32c3","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2d023658982774ff2b5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q0d43ee1395693dd5c6b3","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":656,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-24T17:08:33.831Z","text":"肯定是领了任务的人","edited":false,"reply_to":"qff61598d5e540eb6498c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d43ee1395693dd5c6b3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff61598d5e540eb6498c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qe18620f603ddbd6590e4","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":657,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-24T17:10:47.707Z","text":"可以填表","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe18620f603ddbd6590e4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qded657d8a881632f1d62","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":658,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-24T17:11:25.251Z","text":"王雁平没收程序有那么多人情愿吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qded657d8a881632f1d62","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q4a8c1311ed39fa0ceee4","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":659,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-24T17:12:13.439Z","text":"那时候没几个人明白怎么搞吧？不过联盟那时候让nick和sid律师忽悠了一些人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a8c1311ed39fa0ceee4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q7834cccac462fa93f0fa","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":660,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-24T17:13:13.065Z","text":"说了多次向政府提供kyc资料","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7834cccac462fa93f0fa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q8688e19d7836950cd22c","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":661,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-24T17:15:09.128Z","text":"盖尔是个政客，政府的舔狗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7834cccac462fa93f0fa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8688e19d7836950cd22c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7834cccac462fa93f0fa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qa6deac908cb0898844a8","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":662,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-24T17:15:24.787Z","text":"https://x.com/billions_2022_/status/1981520861237826048?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6deac908cb0898844a8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q966cfe4b988c4ec13ce4","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":663,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-24T17:35:03.796Z","text":"800+300，多","edited":false,"reply_to":"qded657d8a881632f1d62","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q966cfe4b988c4ec13ce4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qded657d8a881632f1d62","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q5dbd348344e60f2ae698","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":664,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-24T17:36:23.214Z","text":"也是因为联盟组织了吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5dbd348344e60f2ae698","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q00402a57a6461377fae4","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":665,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-24T17:36:44.598Z","text":"，王亚平那次当然是联盟农场搞的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5dbd348344e60f2ae698","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00402a57a6461377fae4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5dbd348344e60f2ae698","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q95c90a5c6dc2b2fcb3db","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":666,"speaker":"she***","date":"2025-10-24T18:11:14.257Z","text":"魔女的农场，是不是天天舔啊🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95c90a5c6dc2b2fcb3db","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qaab3d79d6835909dc8fe","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":667,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-24T20:59:28.255Z","text":"https://x.com/Tianshuihanyan/status/1981755102445900047?s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaab3d79d6835909dc8fe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q472385b09724e0e968a6","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":668,"speaker":"wei***","date":"2025-10-24T21:34:28.704Z","text":"他要脱身，一定会反普衡的。LUC再贪，在钱和命之间，也会选择保命","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5c3d46ca3fda9d1c24b7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q472385b09724e0e968a6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c3d46ca3fda9d1c24b7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q2fd78ee5c8c92729f479","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":669,"speaker":"wei***","date":"2025-10-24T21:38:42.105Z","text":"盖尔毕竟是专业律师，在法庭上又是最弱的。他知道所有漏洞但他不能明说，而且被他称为受害人的都跳出来找他的事，屎盆子往他头上扣，现在他看到政府处于弱势了，也终于敢跳出来为受害人说几句公道话了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9d62e1ed888586a2ef90","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2fd78ee5c8c92729f479","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d62e1ed888586a2ef90","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qf2a283d83945ca9d45a3","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":670,"speaker":"wei***","date":"2025-10-24T21:40:06.873Z","text":"我直接跟他要索赔，也吓的他在法庭回复上漏出了马脚，现在这样反水，对他是解套的好方法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2a283d83945ca9d45a3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q7ca0689499a253135b47","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":671,"speaker":"wei***","date":"2025-10-24T21:45:38.505Z","text":"大家在法庭上的动议都写的很好，但是问题是，法庭要有证据链，只是陈述和指控，很容易让对方逃脱，就像盖尔，这一次敢理直气壮的反驳。因为没有确凿的证据呈现在法庭上，这就是我想告诉你们事情前应后果的原因，不是要证明我说的有多对。而是这样才能找到法庭文件里的印证，只有引用法庭文件里他们自己自相矛盾的点，在法庭上才能打击到他们。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ca0689499a253135b47","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q23ea9331995e6dac9496","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":672,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-24T21:46:51.401Z","text":"你说的太好了，上次你的动议里的证据太确凿了😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7ca0689499a253135b47","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23ea9331995e6dac9496","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ca0689499a253135b47","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qe7d49d6f87d229e0779f","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":673,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-24T21:47:33.103Z","text":"完全让盖尔无法脱身😆","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe7d49d6f87d229e0779f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qdd1b24d31f914b641a73","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":674,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-24T21:49:13.341Z","text":"活捉盖尔就指着你了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd1b24d31f914b641a73","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qfcf64f914aff326a5027","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":675,"speaker":"wei***","date":"2025-10-24T21:49:56.889Z","text":"上次的动议，我把举证责任交给了盖尔。他至今没有提交我和他签署的委托书，我这个月22号又提交法庭文件要求法官裁决，但是法官继续没上传我的动议，这就是法官违法了。我听不出来你是夸我，还是讽刺我。随便你，我只求事成，七哥出来是我唯一的诉求。你们要是骂我，能让官司嬴，你们随便骂，随便讽刺。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q23ea9331995e6dac9496","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfcf64f914aff326a5027","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23ea9331995e6dac9496","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qbaac9b9e6c9e63dc9c45","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":676,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-24T22:45:11.255Z","text":"an721 一定懂她。她反反复复地说她真心为这个群里的人好，包括瑞恩。an721也不怪她舔瑞恩。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbaac9b9e6c9e63dc9c45","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q4b90a1a54728a43685db","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":677,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-24T23:21:56.825Z","text":"MOTION to Seal Document 758 Petition in Response to Forfeiture Order, 755 Petition in Response to Forfeiture Order,,,,,, . Document filed by Axxripro Gxxbal Corp., Zxxxx Fxxxxy Txxxx, Bxxxxxg Xai, Hxxg Xi, Yxxxi Hxx, Hxxxxo Gxxn, Rooog Xi, Jxxxe Jxxxg, Cxxxxr Lxxxx Txxxx, Fxxxom Rxxd, XX Investments, Shexgxu Waxg, Lxxy Xixx, Xostenxxuder-Xi Family Trust, Xing Xxang, Xxiqing Xeng, Xiconx Xxang, Pex Xxiu Chen, Xiwen Xuan, Dinxxiang Xxen, Xxang Xeng, Liaxg Xiu, Xong Xin, Yuaxxuan Xxong, Xengxao Xang, Wexxua Xxang, Xong Xi, Xi Xang, Jux Xxang, Jiaxxeng Xen, Xue Xu, Edith Lax, Xan Xui, Xiu Konx Xxeung, Xiaxei Xui, Tiaxxiao Xun, Louise & X Investments Limited, Xxang Xux, Jiax Xan, Xing Xou, Xuaxian Xxang, Jixonx Xxang, Xhu Lax, Andre Xibax, Xeyu Xiu, Yonx Xxang, Nax Xeng Tax, Xengxiang Xou, Yanxxua Xxao, Xu Xanxing, Xeng Xax, Lixiax Xu, Hax Tax Xxang, Tax Xxou, Elaine Bix, Kexix Xxang, Tex-Hax Xxeng, Hoxxxei Xxou, Hux Xuang, Jixen Xu, Haxx Chen, Kanxxi Xang, Ronx Xu, Sherry Shaxx, Qixxing Cux, Qixxsen Fexx, TAXENT EXPRESS TRADING LIMITED, Guaxxhoxx Lax, Jixxai Jiax, Jiax Lix, Chuxxua Jix, May Zhaxx Starx, Bobi Pux, Jinx Cax, Michael Xu, Alex Marxtix, Hiroxuxx Taxahashi, Hax Li, Jiaxxei Chex, Lixian Zhaxx, Lax Dax, Hux Jin, Jiaxix Yaxx, Boxxg Cax, Honx Yuxx, Minxxuan Dax, Yixxun Jix, Tiaxxhen Chen, Trunx Co, Zhax Doxx, Suxan Paxxis, SXX Properties Ltd, Yonxxin Shex, Yuxxe Zhox, Yanxix Wanx, Yi Wux, Xiuxi Wanx, Jiaxxuo Waxx, Wexxie Hax, Shaxxa Zxaxg, YU QIX, Lu Lix, Olixx Clemexx, Hoxgxin Lix, Sixian Zxanx, Mexg Li, Jux Chen, Jiaxxin Dixg, Bo Waxx, Yudoxg Paxg as to Miles Guo. (Gavenman, Jeffrey) (Entered: 10/23/2025)","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b90a1a54728a43685db","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qd186cd6b6567b2a7b054","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":678,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-24T23:22:11.635Z","text":"这么多人啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd186cd6b6567b2a7b054","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q9b89a24a8fc3559c4044","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":679,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-10-24T23:49:44.635Z","text":"https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.595325/gov.uscourts.nysd.595325.756.0.pdf","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b89a24a8fc3559c4044","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q6d3764efb4cb633bb0bc","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":680,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-10-24T23:50:42.849Z","text":"Gavernman 文件756 写得挺好啊： 把事件的始末 写了出来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d3764efb4cb633bb0bc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qef96c00806372331730f","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":681,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-10-24T23:51:20.560Z","text":"他只是说 那些钱不是郭先生的 不该被没收","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef96c00806372331730f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qb67a21cdf587efe48d7d","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":682,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T23:52:27.830Z","text":"这等于在说郭没有诈骗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qef96c00806372331730f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb67a21cdf587efe48d7d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef96c00806372331730f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qbc82ed8fe1c5716006be","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":683,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-24T23:53:26.982Z","text":"https://x.com/TheIntelSCIF/status/1981524977883967786","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc82ed8fe1c5716006be","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qe3fd183e6e27012dcede","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":684,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-24T23:56:56.004Z","text":"gaveman 代理的都是大额  那基本都是老椅子？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3fd183e6e27012dcede","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q98818b7a8106ca46e58f","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":685,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-24T23:57:54.893Z","text":"https://x.com/ElvaMusclecat/status/1981545550404342032","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q98818b7a8106ca46e58f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q5425f5dc67a45d519dd6","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":686,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-10-24T23:57:58.385Z","text":"数字银行","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe3fd183e6e27012dcede","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5425f5dc67a45d519dd6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3fd183e6e27012dcede","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q7db263068d644d157fd7","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":687,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-25T00:05:23.695Z","text":"什么 洗脚所，数字货币，数字银行 A10  我一个都不懂  感觉没啥区别","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7db263068d644d157fd7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q1488593d0c891ad7e3d0","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":688,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:05:41.673Z","text":"gaveman真的比盖尔正常很多","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1488593d0c891ad7e3d0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qd2950be0575213de10cd","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":689,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:05:53.819Z","text":"盖尔就是个逗比","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2950be0575213de10cd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q5e7d28b0f9f14a9cf162","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":690,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-10-25T00:06:48.388Z","text":"Gavernman 把事件的发生鲁了一遍， 还说 数字银行的钱 与郭先生没有任何关系","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e7d28b0f9f14a9cf162","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qe1910f584afc7ca82ab0","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":691,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-10-25T00:08:59.859Z","text":"我這段留言是Gavenman最新文件之前發的，跟Gavenman的意思一致，數字銀行項目是獨立的，王燕平根本就沒參與，她簽署初步沒收令當然不能把數字銀行沒收。\n\n另外就是數字銀行只與將近200包括公司在內的投資人有關，其他人上去反對Gavenman不是胡扯嗎？\n\n之前說過剝離喜交所客戶資產意義重大，第一步客戶資產剝離、喜交所恢復；第二部喜交所的罪名被推翻；第三步，受害人敘事被推翻。\n\n數字銀行項目更容易，因為沒有直接涉及罪名，這裡同樣是本案反轉的切入點。\n\n再次說明：請大家自己驗證Geyer和Gavenman的代理行為是否忠實代表了客戶，不要人云亦云，更不要相信語焉不詳的模糊指控。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcc34d8a64b75647e0c4d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1910f584afc7ca82ab0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc34d8a64b75647e0c4d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q737e0f6ce1a3b8ace7e0","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":692,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-10-25T00:13:49.825Z","text":"很多我知道的自述里， 提出了对Gclub 资产的拥有权。 还有农场借贷。\n\n\n代表6512 人的是 代表 喜交所的 \n\n代表一百多人的Gavernman 是数字银行的\n\n我们的第三方自述 也代表着自己的 Gclub 及农场借贷\n\n个人更加觉得这个自述的重要性","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q737e0f6ce1a3b8ace7e0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q432c295c14d1113c674a","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":693,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T00:15:09.464Z","text":"诈骗案不需要受害人","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe1910f584afc7ca82ab0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q432c295c14d1113c674a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1910f584afc7ca82ab0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q3d329ce7aebfbb821087","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":694,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T00:15:44.646Z","text":"检方早就说过，这个案子不需要有受害人，也可以判了郭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d329ce7aebfbb821087","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q241cf7ea49633c42b863","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":695,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:15:44.984Z","text":"现在关于钱的自述都是支线  不谦虚的说 主线就是我的733司法欺诈 😄 这就是为什么盖尔这个逗比跪舔我","edited":false,"reply_to":"q737e0f6ce1a3b8ace7e0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q241cf7ea49633c42b863","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q737e0f6ce1a3b8ace7e0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q6ccfd8a876ae90ae7dab","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":696,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-10-25T00:15:52.767Z","text":"同意这个观点： 如果 喜交所、 数字银行 都被剥离， 与郭先生无关， 那么剩下的就 更少 好办了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6f0fc4393972cb8d61ae","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ccfd8a876ae90ae7dab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qc0dd374a85e4f94144b2","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":697,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:15:56.171Z","text":"对的 受害者如果为0 也可以判","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3d329ce7aebfbb821087","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0dd374a85e4f94144b2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d329ce7aebfbb821087","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q76cf3800985957af222c","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":698,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T00:16:20.307Z","text":"对的，有没有受害人根本不重要","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc0dd374a85e4f94144b2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76cf3800985957af222c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0dd374a85e4f94144b2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qbe1fd52e0cf6b1f93286","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":699,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:16:31.279Z","text":"受害人 可以作为支线","edited":false,"reply_to":"q76cf3800985957af222c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe1fd52e0cf6b1f93286","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76cf3800985957af222c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q9f5f4f273987064cebc6","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":700,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:16:35.765Z","text":"但绝不是主线","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f5f4f273987064cebc6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q4a299da69e9008e098f1","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":701,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:16:42.183Z","text":"主线就是司法欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a299da69e9008e098f1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qe01f85a73a7ef00f1763","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":702,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:17:05.213Z","text":"而且受害者叙事被我的744早就打残废了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe01f85a73a7ef00f1763","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q80c70744d1034e5ab157","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":703,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T00:17:11.953Z","text":"王雁平有没有参与，也不重要","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80c70744d1034e5ab157","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q0b29436ca22488d97ecb","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":704,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-10-25T00:17:29.888Z","text":"这个逻辑不通。 没有受害人 他诈骗谁？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3d329ce7aebfbb821087","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b29436ca22488d97ecb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d329ce7aebfbb821087","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q2eca265fd65c5c7a1ac7","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":705,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:17:50.066Z","text":"诈骗案 没有受害人 依然可以判刑","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0b29436ca22488d97ecb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2eca265fd65c5c7a1ac7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b29436ca22488d97ecb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qf4f9c88685e2a0b8883e","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":706,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:17:52.829Z","text":"这是很恶心的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4f9c88685e2a0b8883e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q5335946aa512fd9abe14","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":707,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:18:00.179Z","text":"但这就是事实","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5335946aa512fd9abe14","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q02267e90856a5882dc05","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":708,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T00:18:08.307Z","text":"诈骗案只需要有诈骗动机，不需要有受害人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0b29436ca22488d97ecb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02267e90856a5882dc05","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b29436ca22488d97ecb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q15251222aa22ba708815","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":709,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-10-25T00:18:12.707Z","text":"郭先生如何翻案？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15251222aa22ba708815","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q1ed1539433217c1e42fa","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":710,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:18:18.178Z","text":"733 司法欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":"q15251222aa22ba708815","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ed1539433217c1e42fa","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15251222aa22ba708815","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q380ba826d8e8d2c32d75","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":711,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:18:20.613Z","text":"没有第二条路","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q380ba826d8e8d2c32d75","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qe9967be0881ca9c0006d","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":712,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T00:18:31.837Z","text":"盖尔应该学好法律，再当律师","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9967be0881ca9c0006d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q63c011382554f928b052","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":713,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:18:34.461Z","text":"把733捅到天上去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63c011382554f928b052","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q69a56b9eda306b15b308","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":714,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-10-25T00:18:39.239Z","text":"检方程序不正义？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69a56b9eda306b15b308","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q0c911de608fe84fd6325","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":715,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-10-25T00:18:55.807Z","text":"隐密事实？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c911de608fe84fd6325","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qb96b1c1008eb94aaa8ef","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":716,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:18:58.019Z","text":"盖尔估计在法学院的时候天天操逼 不好好读书 考试都抄 哈哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe9967be0881ca9c0006d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb96b1c1008eb94aaa8ef","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9967be0881ca9c0006d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q3f12ee9381ed63c25e85","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":717,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T00:19:09.005Z","text":"一般刑事案被推翻都是因为布雷迪证据，司法欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":"q15251222aa22ba708815","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f12ee9381ed63c25e85","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15251222aa22ba708815","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q0977cc10110a0628d88f","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":718,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:19:09.597Z","text":"检方诈骗法官 司法欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":"q69a56b9eda306b15b308","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0977cc10110a0628d88f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69a56b9eda306b15b308","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qbab468b153526d39b54d","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":719,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:19:24.429Z","text":"［用户 beg***］ 我的733已经全部写了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbab468b153526d39b54d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q2bb3a59abc05c1ee3169","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":720,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-10-25T00:19:45.162Z","text":"郭先生方面还没什么反应呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2bb3a59abc05c1ee3169","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q05b9924588d404cb1159","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":721,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-10-25T00:20:03.156Z","text":"所以說所有第三方：6500多喜交所+100多数字银行+幾十自訴，合力將近7000第三方，推翻檢方數千受害人敘事。\n\n沒有數千受害人敘事的支持，就構成了嚴重的程序不公，必然撤案。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe1910f584afc7ca82ab0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05b9924588d404cb1159","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1910f584afc7ca82ab0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q1943a3119b01d1572aaf","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":722,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:20:07.732Z","text":"郭在监狱里 很难有反应 他的律师一如既往的装瞎","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2bb3a59abc05c1ee3169","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1943a3119b01d1572aaf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2bb3a59abc05c1ee3169","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qf235d3ab675f77aada32","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":723,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:20:41.707Z","text":"你这个思路不行","edited":false,"reply_to":"q05b9924588d404cb1159","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf235d3ab675f77aada32","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05b9924588d404cb1159","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qefd61087322adc68d4d7","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":724,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:21:09.653Z","text":"光打受害人 对检方来说 就是隔靴搔痒","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qefd61087322adc68d4d7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q6d26ebfdbfce36bf76ce","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":725,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T00:22:07.200Z","text":"我都和你说了，有没有受害人，根本不重要","edited":false,"reply_to":"q05b9924588d404cb1159","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d26ebfdbfce36bf76ce","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05b9924588d404cb1159","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qb6b8b91b5d02e4f5970c","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":726,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-10-25T00:22:18.722Z","text":"你行，走你的受害人舉報檢方吧，我不反對，反而還樂見其成。\n但是這個案件的走向不是你成名的那個方向。😆","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb6b8b91b5d02e4f5970c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qb3e49bda3ca9e2760494","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":727,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:22:25.965Z","text":"我744已经把受害人叙事打废了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb3e49bda3ca9e2760494","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q19132eb2323f07fd5abb","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":728,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T00:22:49.521Z","text":"更何况，有一个受害人也可以，现在至少有几百个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19132eb2323f07fd5abb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q59b1c5d37e265d2f04a3","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":729,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-10-25T00:23:03.047Z","text":"一張嘴就打碎了？還是將近7000人能打碎？哈哈，別意淫了好嘛","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59b1c5d37e265d2f04a3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q05126081b6d607b25372","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":730,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:24:22.766Z","text":"你爹盖儿引用我744干什么？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q59b1c5d37e265d2f04a3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05126081b6d607b25372","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59b1c5d37e265d2f04a3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q6f579330e9b077f9fd76","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":731,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T00:25:35.597Z","text":"盖尔至少是失职，严重是欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb96b1c1008eb94aaa8ef","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f579330e9b077f9fd76","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb96b1c1008eb94aaa8ef","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q26afc0e1a8da1c0c35f5","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":732,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:27:20.457Z","text":"虚假陈述 造谣诽谤","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6f579330e9b077f9fd76","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26afc0e1a8da1c0c35f5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f579330e9b077f9fd76","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qcf1549040e84bdc28af1","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":733,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:27:44.599Z","text":"［用户 an7***］  我也要问你爹盖儿赔偿十万美元","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf1549040e84bdc28af1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q5ce3fd2e3fba3029f852","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":734,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-10-25T00:27:45.366Z","text":"你問他吧，我又不是他代言人，你神經病吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ce3fd2e3fba3029f852","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qcb7ede84d49d7457b725","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":735,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T00:28:20.844Z","text":"哈哈，你这个应该可以","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcf1549040e84bdc28af1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb7ede84d49d7457b725","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf1549040e84bdc28af1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q4023d5ba51af62f82fa8","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":736,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:28:24.067Z","text":"［用户 wei***］  你说 盖尔对我造谣诽谤 对法官虚假陈述说我打他 我应该赔多少","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4023d5ba51af62f82fa8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qf876b895cf1877b05160","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":737,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-10-25T00:29:13.968Z","text":"你去起訴他，別在這耽誤時間，把他代理費全賠給你，意淫爽了嗎？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf876b895cf1877b05160","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q81d52c402e7b22d1f1f5","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":738,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-10-25T00:43:06.171Z","text":"对郭先生的指控最主要的是两点， 对不对？ fraud and conspiracy \n\n这两项被陪审团发现是有罪的。\n\n现在是在等着被sentencing \n\n在这个时候， 如何迫使检方撤案？ 如果不撤案， 那下一步就是量刑。因为陪审团已经发现有罪。对吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81d52c402e7b22d1f1f5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q348ba6ad73bd55196edd","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":739,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-25T00:44:55.915Z","text":"不对","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q348ba6ad73bd55196edd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qa215edfaa6a5bc1ee6b6","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":740,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T00:46:45.877Z","text":"比如老郭刑事案内容","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa215edfaa6a5bc1ee6b6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q2d62e6dd1c7acc067e3d","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":741,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T00:46:55.429Z","text":"那个房间里有很多资料","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d62e6dd1c7acc067e3d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q19ae6203974f9672b063","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":742,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T00:47:38.310Z","text":"还有prose房间，也有一些信息","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19ae6203974f9672b063","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q6934d6e6338140855b87","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":743,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T00:47:56.953Z","text":"这些信息也不一定对，大家自己甄别","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6934d6e6338140855b87","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q47e9c484909cadd06ae6","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":744,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T00:48:14.393Z","text":"这群自由讨论，信息真假自己分辨","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47e9c484909cadd06ae6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q391977d1e9e04153eac6","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":745,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:51:06.027Z","text":"绝不能让检方撤案","edited":false,"reply_to":"q81d52c402e7b22d1f1f5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q391977d1e9e04153eac6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81d52c402e7b22d1f1f5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q4505d6a5bf846a508a96","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":746,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:51:17.389Z","text":"检方撤案 他干的脏事就这么算了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4505d6a5bf846a508a96","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q81b97ec51a2feecd2e30","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":747,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-10-25T00:52:04.684Z","text":"你個傻缺，檢方撤案，下一步是行政追責。跟你有個毛關係。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81b97ec51a2feecd2e30","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qad924ccbecd14b96450d","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":748,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:52:25.891Z","text":"谁会去追？你去？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q81b97ec51a2feecd2e30","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad924ccbecd14b96450d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81b97ec51a2feecd2e30","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q124a931ece385645af88","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":749,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T00:52:39.889Z","text":"https://x.com/Testurheart/status/1943048822621450555?s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q124a931ece385645af88","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q74ee07ced15639fdaf42","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":750,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-10-25T00:53:56.595Z","text":"哈哈，自然有人追責，你就不必操心了。這是程序的機制，不用你個傻缺參與。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74ee07ced15639fdaf42","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q53aab6eddc80665b486f","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":751,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:54:29.152Z","text":"你以为你是司法部长？你说追责就追责？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q74ee07ced15639fdaf42","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53aab6eddc80665b486f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74ee07ced15639fdaf42","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qd241744f23e20f91acfe","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":752,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:54:44.696Z","text":"检方不可能撤案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd241744f23e20f91acfe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q241fee937cab203157a0","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":753,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:54:57.218Z","text":"因为检方觉得他们可以稳住","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q241fee937cab203157a0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q07442244752215057983","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":754,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-10-25T00:55:14.133Z","text":"我是說第一步被迫撤案，之後追責，你再讀讀短短的一句話。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q81b97ec51a2feecd2e30","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07442244752215057983","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81b97ec51a2feecd2e30","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q247ef1436968707dabb9","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":755,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:55:33.189Z","text":"[屏蔽词] 撤案就是勾兑好了 没人追","edited":true,"reply_to":"q07442244752215057983","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q247ef1436968707dabb9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07442244752215057983","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q75e689a0ec88c5ca383f","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":756,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T00:56:00.348Z","text":"https://x.com/Testurheart/status/1964790632737902876?s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q75e689a0ec88c5ca383f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qd55bdfbc725a25454e00","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":757,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-10-25T00:56:52.315Z","text":"好的，像你說的沒人追責，那時候你不正好可以出馬了嗎？你應該開心吧，後面還有成名的機會。😆","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd55bdfbc725a25454e00","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q6d66c8ecca234287d95b","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":758,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:57:18.214Z","text":"我成名不是通过撤案 撤案了我还成个鸡吧名","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd55bdfbc725a25454e00","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d66c8ecca234287d95b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd55bdfbc725a25454e00","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qdc3af62f145286d3d100","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":759,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T00:58:19.783Z","text":"文件344，非常重要的一句话\n--其次，夏和戴与所有农场领导人一样，都是被告的代理人，他们的陈述是在这种代理关系的范围内作出的。\n\n意思就是所有农场领导人，都是郭文贵共谋犯，当然联盟农场领导人都是共谋犯！检方文件382申请认定郭文贵有共谋的动议，也有一样或者差不多意思的描述，文件388法官认定郭文贵有同谋的命令，也引用了检方关于农场的描述。\n\n大概意思就是，联盟农场上面这些[屏蔽词]是法庭认定的郭文贵的共谋犯！\n\n\n那么，郭文贵的共谋犯参与或者主导的债权人登记，喜交所表格，数字银行登记，按照法庭文件解释，这就是共谋犯罪的犯罪过程或者犯罪延伸。那三个登记协议，都可以认为涉嫌或者就是共谋！要求法庭作废那三个登记协议，涉嫌共谋犯罪的登记或协议，怎么能来法庭要钱索赔啊？并且代理那三个登记和协议的卢克盖尔和Gavenman,我都有理由怀疑他们三个可能也是共谋犯！","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc3af62f145286d3d100","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qe581657eaddaa8e585f6","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":760,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-10-25T00:58:31.603Z","text":"哈哈，急了。。。撤案後，郭先生翻案，你就沒戲了。難怪急了。。😆 😆","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe581657eaddaa8e585f6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q12206476cc2b3df5fac5","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":761,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:59:00.157Z","text":"哈哈 那你赶紧让检方撤案 你看他听不听你的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe581657eaddaa8e585f6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12206476cc2b3df5fac5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe581657eaddaa8e585f6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q7413357b6253d99f5d53","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":762,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:59:31.352Z","text":"共谋犯组织要钱 是洗钱行为","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdc3af62f145286d3d100","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7413357b6253d99f5d53","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc3af62f145286d3d100","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q9f2b1b33174e3efb20cb","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":763,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:59:42.026Z","text":"所以盖尔是给洗钱犯服务","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f2b1b33174e3efb20cb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q4012b0d23a1debe227fd","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":764,"speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-10-25T00:59:48.569Z","text":"不是聽我，是合力，是趨勢，是最小阻力方向，懂嗎？傻貨。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4012b0d23a1debe227fd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q76ec12cd86f972f59099","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":765,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T01:00:44.037Z","text":"你根本就是在意淫 你说趋势就趋势？检方是你爹？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4012b0d23a1debe227fd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76ec12cd86f972f59099","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4012b0d23a1debe227fd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qcc55120a5d130919f2df","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":766,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T01:01:55.551Z","text":"现在这个案子已经到了量刑阶段，如果你不按法庭的逻辑来，你是不可能理解这个案子的。联盟农场一直在洗脑[屏蔽词]“战友”，让他们形成了一套错误的逻辑，比如这个案子是政治案，比如这个案子没有受害者，比如盖尔是替战友说话，等等。这些全是不符合法律事实的。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc55120a5d130919f2df","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q7389c63668d857feb0ee","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":767,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T01:05:15.934Z","text":"事实就是，联盟农场是法庭认定的共谋犯，因为这是一个Rico案，所以他们现在根本不可以组织任何活动，尤其是对法庭有影响的任何活动。在西方，是个傻子都知道，这是不可以的。中国人都是法盲吗？现在还听联盟农场的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7389c63668d857feb0ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q1f0df0504f851542a3a9","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":768,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T01:06:47.808Z","text":"连盖尔都知道这是不可以的，不然他为什么要和联盟农场切割？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f0df0504f851542a3a9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q1aa51f2d84c88c8c2339","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":769,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T01:07:07.297Z","text":"他为什么不说我就是联盟农场推荐的，怎么着？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1aa51f2d84c88c8c2339","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q27cdfc7c814b3a31825f","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":770,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T01:07:39.317Z","text":"盖尔都知道，不能和联盟农场搅和在一起。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27cdfc7c814b3a31825f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q3073d6d2fd179fe55ed6","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":771,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-25T01:09:48.967Z","text":"还是我之前在群里说的，他们应该是根本没搞懂情况，否则他们应该 慌了，但是因为没懂所以没慌，而在最后一天的 剧情大转折，看出来他们慌了，他们才刚刚摸到司法的大门，他们在门口就吓破胆了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb91a46fa9c2f1401a788","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3073d6d2fd179fe55ed6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q5f90a40175a4304a2770","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":772,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T01:11:49.336Z","text":"联盟农场现在的逻辑就是，我们掌握了大部分的战友，我们就是正义的，这完全不符合法律事实。他们绑架了战友，拿战友当盾牌保护自己，这和中共绑架14亿中国人当盾牌，有什么区别。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f90a40175a4304a2770","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qcd995be5d4c86de35158","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":773,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T01:12:43.266Z","text":"联盟农场都是共谋犯 只有被联盟农场开除 或者主动切割 才能幸免","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5f90a40175a4304a2770","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd995be5d4c86de35158","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f90a40175a4304a2770","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qa728ac3c70ed682e3bad","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":774,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T01:12:50.947Z","text":"我是被开除的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa728ac3c70ed682e3bad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qf5fb22eb42cbec00d71f","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":775,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T01:12:57.233Z","text":"截图都有 哈哈哈 我很安全","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5fb22eb42cbec00d71f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qd652228d41ed2b183044","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":776,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-25T01:14:07.421Z","text":"像我这种 没给任何农场，农场主 透露过任何 个人信息的 也安全 没填过 任何表的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd652228d41ed2b183044","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qb814005c6586bd90d90e","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":777,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-10-25T01:21:07.897Z","text":"参与者是如何定义的？ 像我这样的，只有投资 没有任何职务 或者获得任何利益 也是参与者吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q124a931ece385645af88","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb814005c6586bd90d90e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q124a931ece385645af88","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q865a90cad2e8132f1877","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":778,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T01:26:58.196Z","text":"我不知道最后法庭会怎么定义，但是目前法庭文件344和388已经定义了联盟农场领导人是共谋，你去读一下这两个文件。所以他们组织的这些表格全是妨碍司法。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb814005c6586bd90d90e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q865a90cad2e8132f1877","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb814005c6586bd90d90e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q7469f06132a288fa5c1f","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":779,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T01:27:45.357Z","text":"之前是没人说他们这些表格，法庭不知道，现在有人上法庭说了，法庭知道了，要不然盖尔急着切割呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7469f06132a288fa5c1f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qaeb810424845ca852665","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":780,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T01:31:14.385Z","text":"盖尔就在给共谋犯洗钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaeb810424845ca852665","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qa6aa06720a3e6c1a35f5","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":781,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-25T01:33:37.503Z","text":"起诉农场和联盟的诈骗犯才是正道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6aa06720a3e6c1a35f5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q55cfddcd1b99e6e03843","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":782,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T01:35:44.708Z","text":"检方有一个共谋犯的表格，上边至少有长岛和张勇兵。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q85125398b4526c68c6c7","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55cfddcd1b99e6e03843","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q076f813ec5b14cf62838","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":783,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-25T01:35:46.579Z","text":"砸郭的，说我是小蚂蚁，那我就是小蚂蚁，我就干点这事。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q076f813ec5b14cf62838","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q0872573cf572dc4bba45","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":784,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T01:36:42.445Z","text":"344和388已经定义了联盟农场就是共谋的重要组成部分。不然郭的Rico也成立不了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q85125398b4526c68c6c7","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0872573cf572dc4bba45","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q0311e086bd10d28c53ad","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":785,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-25T01:36:46.990Z","text":"司法欺诈的路线，最终是需要证据来说明的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc3d79aaeea944ece3aad","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0311e086bd10d28c53ad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q88aae67f7a2743b8f4ab","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":786,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-25T01:37:31.947Z","text":"这些证据，就需要很多小蚂蚁干死农场和联盟的诈骗犯","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q88aae67f7a2743b8f4ab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q0db9703686952fc6534f","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":787,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T01:37:32.979Z","text":"733从头到尾都是证据","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0311e086bd10d28c53ad","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0db9703686952fc6534f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0311e086bd10d28c53ad","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q60676695b9c88d1d52f0","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":788,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-25T01:37:41.944Z","text":"想多了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0db9703686952fc6534f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"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可以没有犯罪事实， 只要能证明intent 意图就可以了。fraud 这个应该可以很容易就被打掉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5cef5d7ab4cda3238191","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q564cfe25f158f6bf9d00","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":792,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-25T01:38:59.786Z","text":"有空我再整一些，打你脸的东西","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4516591988258b2fdeb1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q564cfe25f158f6bf9d00","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4516591988258b2fdeb1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qf382147b9304c214436e","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":793,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T01:39:37.215Z","text":"你一个rule60都搞不清楚的[屏蔽词]还想打我脸 🤣","edited":true,"reply_to":"q564cfe25f158f6bf9d00","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf382147b9304c214436e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q564cfe25f158f6bf9d00","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qd1c74bbe3155bb80e296","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":794,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T01:40:19.737Z","text":"你现在是刚进群 走了我之前走过的道路 想从罪名出发 一个个打掉","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5cef5d7ab4cda3238191","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1c74bbe3155bb80e296","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5cef5d7ab4cda3238191","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q00c9bff8381dac2fdf38","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":795,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T01:40:29.538Z","text":"［用户 beg***］ 但你研究之后就会发现这不可能","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00c9bff8381dac2fdf38","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q02936c341584d8ca99d2","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":796,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-10-25T01:40:37.857Z","text":"同意","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02936c341584d8ca99d2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q25292220be38dd0eb2da","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":797,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T01:41:55.142Z","text":"翻案唯一的可能就是检方程序问题","edited":false,"reply_to":"q02936c341584d8ca99d2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25292220be38dd0eb2da","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02936c341584d8ca99d2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"qf8332842913f608c42a2","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":798,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T01:42:00.683Z","text":"法官程序问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8332842913f608c42a2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q2b716e269fa9a024a588","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":799,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T01:42:04.664Z","text":"辩方律师程序问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b716e269fa9a024a588","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"},{"id":"q0bc0e9c67a5588ffa967","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":800,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-25T01:42:10.827Z","text":"脚本小子，确实能做到像李俊一样的，但这不多","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0bc0e9c67a5588ffa967","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000050","next_batch_id":"batch-000052"}