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yin***］ 欢迎你，这里百分之百言论自由畅所欲言。也欢迎你介绍你的小伙伴进群交流郭文贵刑事案件。这里有你在联盟农场羊帮质疑帮绝对不可能拥有的言论自由","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59cbe9f1eb87df32b12e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q14b064e575555b4f42a4","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":208,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-25T20:26:04.258Z","text":"［用户 chu***］ 你的上诉动议在哪看","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14b064e575555b4f42a4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qb9c09320f9638c4dfd67","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":209,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T20:26:39.964Z","text":"Pro 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然后好抓把柄","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qccd118f17729c8172628","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qf9fd44051056dcffd865","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":230,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T20:46:24.471Z","text":"第二点 误导螺丝哥再去南区发动议","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9fd44051056dcffd865","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qce83f0ffc076221fe3ce","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":231,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T20:50:21.793Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 按照这个角度理解 二巡确实需要三个星期想出这样的理由","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce83f0ffc076221fe3ce","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q39b0005d684813f12c4f","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":232,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T20:50:37.241Z","text":"而且对于扑杀菜鸟来说很高明","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39b0005d684813f12c4f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q9f86f6725c6e307e5b83","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":233,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T20:55:32.068Z","text":"机器人答案：👇 \n\n🔹 情况说明\n\n你现在的情况是：\n\n1. 你已经在纽约南区联邦法院（SDNY）提交过一份作为受害者介入的动议（motion to intervene），并且这份动议已经被立案（docketed）。\n\n\n2. 但是法官从未对此作出裁决。\n\n\n3. 在那之后，你继续向法院通过 Pro Se 办公室提交动议，但这些文件都没有被立案或上传到案卷系统。\n\n\n4. 同时，第二巡回上诉法院（Second Circuit）退回了你的强制令（mandamus）申请，理由是他们没有看到你在下级法院（SDNY）提交过依据《受害者权利法》（CVRA, 18 U.S.C. § 3771(d)(3)）的动议。\n\n\n\n这意味着上诉法院认为：你还没有在下级法院正式以 CVRA 为依据提出过动议，或是虽然你提交了，但他们认为尚未得到裁决。\n\n\n---\n\n🔹 上诉法院引用的关键规定\n\n根据 18 U.S.C. § 3771(d)(3)（《犯罪受害者权利法》CVRA），\n受害者只有在先向案件所在的地区法院（district court）提出动议要求执行自己的受害者权利，且该法院拒绝或未予救济之后，\n才能向上诉法院（court of appeals）提出强制令（mandamus）申请。\n\n因此，第二巡回法院书记官退回文件，是要求你：\n\n1. 先在**纽约南区法院（SDNY）**提交一份正式的 CVRA 动议；\n\n\n2. 等待法院的裁定；\n\n\n3. 如果法院拒绝或长期不作为，你才能再次向上诉法院提交 mandamus 申请。\n\n\n\n\n---\n\n🔹 你现在可以采取的步骤\n\n方案一：在SDNY重新提交一份“根据18 U.S.C. § 3771(d)(3)的受害者权利动议”\n\n这是最规范、最稳妥的做法。\n\n文件标题可以写成：\n\n> “受害者根据18 U.S.C. § 3771(d)(3)提交的动议：请求执行受害者权利并要求书记员将受害者文件立案”\n\n\n\n在动议中，你应当：\n\n引用你之前已经被立案但未被裁决的动议；\n\n说明你之后的提交被 Pro Se 办公室拒绝或忽略；\n\n明确声明：你这是依据 CVRA 法条重新提出动议（Renewed Motion），以保留向上诉法院申请 mandamus 的程序权利；\n\n附上之前提交的文件及Pro Se 办公室未立案的证据；\n\n请求法官：\n\n(a) 将你以前及以后的受害者文件及时立案；\n\n(b) 对你未决的动议作出裁决；\n\n(c) 依据18 U.S.C. § 3771(a)保障你的受害者权利。\n\n\n\n如果地区法院仍不处理，你就可以再次向第二巡回法院提交 mandamus 申请，并附上：\n\n这份新动议的副本；\n\n提交证明；\n\n以及法院未回应或Pro Se办公室拒收的证据。\n\n\n\n---\n\n方案二：向第二巡回法院提交一份“情况说明函”（Notice of Clarification）\n\n如果你认为自己已经符合CVRA程序要求，因为你确实提交过受害者动议，那么你可以向上诉法院书记官寄一封简短的说明信，解释：\n\n你确实在纽约南区法院提交过作为受害者的动议（例如 ECF No. ___）；\n\n法院从未对此作出裁决，相当于通过不作为拒绝了救济；\n\n附上那份动议及其案卷编号作为证明。\n\n\n有时，如果你能证明下级法院确实收到了动议但拒绝处理，上诉法院可能会重新考虑受理你的 mandamus 申请。\n\n\n---\n\n方案三：两者并行（最稳妥）\n\n你可以：\n\n1. 在 SDNY 提交新的 CVRA 动议（方案一）；\n\n\n2. 向第二巡回法院写一封简短说明信（方案二），说明你已重新依据 CVRA 提交动议，并将在地区法院无作为时重新申请 mandamus。\n\n\n\n这样可以同时保护你在两个层面的程序权利。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f86f6725c6e307e5b83","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qf5cc1460dcb9b80879fb","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":234,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T20:56:58.951Z","text":"这个不对 不是这样了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9f86f6725c6e307e5b83","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5cc1460dcb9b80879fb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f86f6725c6e307e5b83","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q946fd3e789c0dc282db9","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":235,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-25T20:57:03.990Z","text":"不赞同，肯定是 哪里提交有问题  不是故意整你","edited":false,"reply_to":"qccd118f17729c8172628","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q946fd3e789c0dc282db9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qccd118f17729c8172628","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qe51e87724169aa758ae6","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":236,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T20:57:07.981Z","text":"他摆明了就是装糊涂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe51e87724169aa758ae6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q2fa8a85ed97cdf8117c7","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":237,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T20:57:21.073Z","text":"绝不可能 你去看看他的文书怎么写的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q946fd3e789c0dc282db9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2fa8a85ed97cdf8117c7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q946fd3e789c0dc282db9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q008319d8f16072cf208e","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":238,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-25T20:57:41.913Z","text":"［用户 pz0***］  你当时 为什么说  不会受理？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q008319d8f16072cf208e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q05690018f016ca7be95e","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":239,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T20:57:45.070Z","text":"说什么找不到在南区以cvra介入的动议","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05690018f016ca7be95e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q08677c3d60d18016c957","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":240,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T20:57:48.935Z","text":"机器人说你可以提交notice of clarification","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf5cc1460dcb9b80879fb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08677c3d60d18016c957","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5cc1460dcb9b80879fb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q84fa72a72edec3cb4733","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":241,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T20:57:49.371Z","text":"放屁吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84fa72a72edec3cb4733","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q48ab8c477bea8223f1e5","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":242,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T20:57:53.408Z","text":"对","edited":false,"reply_to":"q08677c3d60d18016c957","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q48ab8c477bea8223f1e5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08677c3d60d18016c957","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q9d306a8b6c31939d0979","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":243,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T20:57:54.877Z","text":"就是这个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d306a8b6c31939d0979","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qee67e808b7bc2c20539a","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":244,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T20:58:06.555Z","text":"notice for correction / clarification","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee67e808b7bc2c20539a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q51784d73144ba1c8e13d","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":245,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T20:58:12.780Z","text":"肯定不会受理","edited":false,"reply_to":"q008319d8f16072cf208e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51784d73144ba1c8e13d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q008319d8f16072cf208e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q5e249fddaa0217bad7e8","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":246,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T20:58:25.017Z","text":"我上面那个答案有两个方案，你仔细读一下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e249fddaa0217bad7e8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q2241d638a499f05d831c","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":247,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-25T20:58:25.175Z","text":"建议你打电话  好语气的 咨询一下 具体 问题是什么","edited":false,"reply_to":"q05690018f016ca7be95e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2241d638a499f05d831c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05690018f016ca7be95e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qab2bb65e6127c19366aa","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":248,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T20:58:31.082Z","text":"我是法官我一定不会受理 受理干嘛？ 给自己找麻烦？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab2bb65e6127c19366aa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q7eb4e6539d2dc9b9a487","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":249,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T20:58:42.745Z","text":"第二个方案就是notice of clarification","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7eb4e6539d2dc9b9a487","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q559c036546e488af3996","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":250,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T20:58:51.674Z","text":"对 第二个方案对的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7eb4e6539d2dc9b9a487","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q559c036546e488af3996","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7eb4e6539d2dc9b9a487","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qcdb3dde22c4381c5eb4a","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":251,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T20:59:01.679Z","text":"当然你也可以两个方案一起做，更稳妥","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcdb3dde22c4381c5eb4a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q4f413cbbb205ab054cb7","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":252,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T20:59:12.906Z","text":"绝对不做第一个方案","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcdb3dde22c4381c5eb4a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f413cbbb205ab054cb7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcdb3dde22c4381c5eb4a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q9d9fc9a101242c1d946d","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":253,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T20:59:21.984Z","text":"做了第一个方案 他觉得你确实错了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d9fc9a101242c1d946d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qe516d5cd4470642ebee9","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":254,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T20:59:24.941Z","text":"确实你没法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe516d5cd4470642ebee9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q8759a0d6ef97c39dbccd","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":255,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T20:59:33.820Z","text":"到时候更说不清楚","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8759a0d6ef97c39dbccd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q7dc2897ebcb5198b85e4","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":256,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T21:00:01.311Z","text":"打个鸡吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2241d638a499f05d831c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7dc2897ebcb5198b85e4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2241d638a499f05d831c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q2e11bf47cb37a8b087d8","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":257,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T21:00:08.752Z","text":"这帮人能听懂的就是拳头","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e11bf47cb37a8b087d8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qf88d84e7ac4f7ad843bb","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":258,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T21:00:27.248Z","text":"他679每一个都是受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2b5f868603a4573e62ed","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf88d84e7ac4f7ad843bb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qda3cec3ecd6c250cd789","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":259,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-25T21:00:31.959Z","text":"不赞同","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2e11bf47cb37a8b087d8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda3cec3ecd6c250cd789","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e11bf47cb37a8b087d8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q2402928ec890c61678fe","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":260,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T21:00:34.175Z","text":"679后","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2402928ec890c61678fe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qf2d472f7f829c7050158","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":261,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T21:00:50.454Z","text":"反正他在679之后所有动议都没有上传","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2d472f7f829c7050158","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q067247409c9512238e42","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":262,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T21:01:05.510Z","text":"如果不是我连续重拳 现在的局面根本不可能是现在这样","edited":false,"reply_to":"qda3cec3ecd6c250cd789","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q067247409c9512238e42","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda3cec3ecd6c250cd789","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q9b3a51343b71c8ebeea3","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":263,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T21:01:13.492Z","text":"老郭估计早判了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b3a51343b71c8ebeea3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q3a18f24e4ed4b814c849","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":264,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-25T21:01:22.401Z","text":"这于我 不赞同的点  不同","edited":false,"reply_to":"q067247409c9512238e42","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a18f24e4ed4b814c849","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q067247409c9512238e42","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q9dfe237028913566a428","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":265,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T21:01:32.908Z","text":"那你不赞同什么","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3a18f24e4ed4b814c849","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9dfe237028913566a428","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a18f24e4ed4b814c849","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q63296aa4f86c2fd7e6b1","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":266,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-25T21:01:40.682Z","text":"数字银行代理律师的名字叫什么？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63296aa4f86c2fd7e6b1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q6a0bb17d5f6440af8b0c","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":267,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-25T21:01:44.519Z","text":"我只是 不赞同  这次打回来   你说是故意的  我认为肯定哪里出问题了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a0bb17d5f6440af8b0c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qd52cd8984935cee24f23","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":268,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T21:01:55.004Z","text":"先发个notice of clarification再说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd52cd8984935cee24f23","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q3cb55d756a71609f7cfb","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":269,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T21:02:04.273Z","text":"这不是个大问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3cb55d756a71609f7cfb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q33cd2aa097ee989d6ddd","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":270,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-25T21:02:11.071Z","text":"不是故意整你  而是确实 缺少文件，或者程序错误","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q33cd2aa097ee989d6ddd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q6fbc0302e106380db874","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":271,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T21:02:12.311Z","text":"哪里出问题了？ 这个破东西 要审核三个星期？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6a0bb17d5f6440af8b0c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6fbc0302e106380db874","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a0bb17d5f6440af8b0c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q16d8d0f459d75d478d02","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":272,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T21:02:17.770Z","text":"放屁","edited":false,"reply_to":"q33cd2aa097ee989d6ddd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16d8d0f459d75d478d02","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q33cd2aa097ee989d6ddd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qa29e7811da03f8a8a889","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":273,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T21:02:31.081Z","text":"一个[屏蔽词]强制令是72小时决定的","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa29e7811da03f8a8a889","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q3dde61ecffb69f5b8b9d","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":274,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-25T21:02:36.751Z","text":"放屁也没用，是我 就打电话 直接问","edited":false,"reply_to":"q16d8d0f459d75d478d02","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3dde61ecffb69f5b8b9d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16d8d0f459d75d478d02","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q0ff197f093989a7c93a5","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":275,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T21:02:43.788Z","text":"我觉得二巡这个理由不是什么大问题，你发完notice of clarification之后应该没有问题了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ff197f093989a7c93a5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q6113d9f2e0113d1ba24e","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":276,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T21:02:47.191Z","text":"螺丝哥这个强制令就是出大问题了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6113d9f2e0113d1ba24e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qf219c9953b66bc4f3f84","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":277,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T21:02:50.811Z","text":"对的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0ff197f093989a7c93a5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf219c9953b66bc4f3f84","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ff197f093989a7c93a5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q9832b0bd2150b2e0d674","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":278,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T21:03:01.458Z","text":"如果发完这个 再无理取闹 那就是故意了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0ff197f093989a7c93a5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9832b0bd2150b2e0d674","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ff197f093989a7c93a5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q16a33bc17b0a3ac9b0df","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":279,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T21:03:26.625Z","text":"对，如果只是这个理由，没有别的理由的话，应该很好解决的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9832b0bd2150b2e0d674","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16a33bc17b0a3ac9b0df","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9832b0bd2150b2e0d674","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qf90ec93d28d681d6ee3d","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":280,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-25T21:03:35.781Z","text":"先找自身原因，肯定有的  不会无缘无故打你","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9832b0bd2150b2e0d674","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf90ec93d28d681d6ee3d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9832b0bd2150b2e0d674","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q83f0a09b5be2397fea28","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":281,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T21:03:42.803Z","text":"他三周憋出这个理由是处心积虑的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q16a33bc17b0a3ac9b0df","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83f0a09b5be2397fea28","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16a33bc17b0a3ac9b0df","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qbbce8c1c6cbdcd77fba1","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":282,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T21:04:17.237Z","text":"有个鸡吧原因","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf90ec93d28d681d6ee3d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbce8c1c6cbdcd77fba1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf90ec93d28d681d6ee3d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q2b068707260e531b2ad5","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":283,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T21:04:29.386Z","text":"有自身原因 72小时就可以拒绝","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b068707260e531b2ad5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q4ef9c8e5131a1be8e007","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":284,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-25T21:04:31.446Z","text":"你就是嘴硬    没用，解决问题 才帅","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbbce8c1c6cbdcd77fba1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ef9c8e5131a1be8e007","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbce8c1c6cbdcd77fba1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qe8130053e208c1e8504a","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":285,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T21:04:35.465Z","text":"对，拖了三周，但我觉得最后还是会立案的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe8130053e208c1e8504a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q2866b6e2465f9c83b669","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":286,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T21:07:16.393Z","text":"Jeffrey gavenman","edited":false,"reply_to":"q63296aa4f86c2fd7e6b1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2866b6e2465f9c83b669","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63296aa4f86c2fd7e6b1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q80e6608ed5fc499e2a69","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":287,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T21:08:31.671Z","text":"他这个原因就不是螺丝哥自己的原因，是书记员眼睛不好使","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf90ec93d28d681d6ee3d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80e6608ed5fc499e2a69","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf90ec93d28d681d6ee3d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q0912a312869e377679fa","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":288,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T21:08:54.904Z","text":"就这个原因，一天就可以打回了，用不着三周","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0912a312869e377679fa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qcddd0d0250bf65fc784d","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":289,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T21:10:40.076Z","text":"而且他们这个原因，很好解决，下次书记员配个眼镜，就解决了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcddd0d0250bf65fc784d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q709689d599d8d7d80e20","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":290,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-25T21:12:19.592Z","text":"盖尓的最新动议的文件号是什么？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0912a312869e377679fa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q709689d599d8d7d80e20","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0912a312869e377679fa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q243234850456a5775564","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":291,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T21:12:29.934Z","text":"忘了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q709689d599d8d7d80e20","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q243234850456a5775564","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q709689d599d8d7d80e20","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q885366ef8743ebe6be07","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":292,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-25T21:12:51.522Z","text":"761","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q885366ef8743ebe6be07","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q7f8c9e6fe9169821943a","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":293,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-25T21:12:57.229Z","text":"763也是吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f8c9e6fe9169821943a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q74a70270b69da1ddbc38","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":294,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-25T21:13:36.204Z","text":"763也是","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74a70270b69da1ddbc38","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q00e0a86167267eaa9002","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":295,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T21:17:24.403Z","text":"有自身原因72小时就退回来 这是最基本的逻辑","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4ef9c8e5131a1be8e007","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00e0a86167267eaa9002","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ef9c8e5131a1be8e007","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q39bc7d3da1b33db9191c","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":296,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T21:21:52.965Z","text":"［用户 hig***］  欢迎你，这里百分之百言论自由畅所欲言。也欢迎你介绍你的小伙伴进群交流郭文贵刑事案件。这里有你在联盟农场羊帮质疑帮绝对不可能拥有的言论自由","edited":true,"reply_to":"q2e1f2b0fe018821a80fc","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39bc7d3da1b33db9191c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qf4f64b00270e1b2b6db1","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":297,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T21:22:40.112Z","text":"［用户 hig***］ 你是小羊群来的吧？我之前看到你在羊群推荐自诉？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4f64b00270e1b2b6db1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qa0a8d6c404f31be7414d","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":298,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-25T21:26:52.285Z","text":"慢 很正常。你一个在美国的 还纠结时间","edited":false,"reply_to":"q00e0a86167267eaa9002","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0a8d6c404f31be7414d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00e0a86167267eaa9002","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qeecea423efad3908d277","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":299,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T21:27:39.012Z","text":"［用户 hig***］ 这群就是搞自诉的","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeecea423efad3908d277","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qb7ef856359bb0addd4f5","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":300,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T21:29:11.697Z","text":"你不是搞自诉吗？这群就是搞自诉的，你浪费什么时间啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7993dda456878ab68106","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7ef856359bb0addd4f5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q7548070d6c58c39bb581","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":301,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T21:29:13.388Z","text":"我看是你膨胀 你二巡规则都没搞清楚就说人家膨胀 这本身就是膨胀","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe4998ae64ff657fe8b7e","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7548070d6c58c39bb581","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q101c9a61824e08cc2d18","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":302,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-25T21:29:16.531Z","text":"你想了解咋回事那就得花点时间，但肯定比你慢慢摸索要快","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7993dda456878ab68106","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q101c9a61824e08cc2d18","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q52e09b2b3ec184b3e5f7","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":303,"speaker":"hig***","date":"2025-10-25T21:29:37.932Z","text":"不懂什么是自诉","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb7ef856359bb0addd4f5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52e09b2b3ec184b3e5f7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7ef856359bb0addd4f5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qba2d48c3f5f1d16f16f3","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":304,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-25T21:29:58.103Z","text":"不懂你怎么搞？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q52e09b2b3ec184b3e5f7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba2d48c3f5f1d16f16f3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52e09b2b3ec184b3e5f7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q0e466ceb0056f6139fd5","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":305,"speaker":"hig***","date":"2025-10-25T21:30:04.457Z","text":"我只是转发一下！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e466ceb0056f6139fd5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qc07be45520e949783eb4","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":306,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-25T21:30:24.027Z","text":"也行啊，叫你的伙伴们进来，等他们搞明白了再教你","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0e466ceb0056f6139fd5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc07be45520e949783eb4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e466ceb0056f6139fd5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qc446b90bb41d293bf62d","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":307,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-25T21:30:25.918Z","text":"美国本身就是这样 慢。外加 机器人不靠谱，加 很多潜在问题 律师才知道。这是常识。你个智障死盯着 规则。难怪 螺丝哥要给你科普2个月","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7548070d6c58c39bb581","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc446b90bb41d293bf62d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7548070d6c58c39bb581","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q003b20b839d542f86ef7","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":308,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-25T21:40:36.022Z","text":"急个几把， 二巡有问题 不就是 你的抓手吗？智障","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q003b20b839d542f86ef7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q2c40b722a54e1433245d","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":309,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T22:00:26.794Z","text":"你还想揣测我的战略？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q003b20b839d542f86ef7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c40b722a54e1433245d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q003b20b839d542f86ef7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q5bfa9fefd8b3a56a509a","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":310,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-25T22:18:41.413Z","text":"可是你的上诉己经发出去了。还能再修改吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1ab6db0262db4e7c0e5e","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5bfa9fefd8b3a56a509a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q4bbc3324f07099659657","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":311,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T22:26:39.893Z","text":"不用 立新案🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5bfa9fefd8b3a56a509a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4bbc3324f07099659657","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5bfa9fefd8b3a56a509a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q40075d4e2323ddc2d686","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":312,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-25T23:07:41.750Z","text":"投诉不花，投诉不是法律手段。上诉，申请强制令才花钱。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfaeeb0a0a83466cb31d2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40075d4e2323ddc2d686","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfaeeb0a0a83466cb31d2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q79498544f0e5116d19ee","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":313,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-26T00:01:58.704Z","text":"==================\n\n            通知\n\n本群改为华山派\n螺丝屌哥改名为岳不群。\n没错，就是君子剑岳不群\n本群借讨论自诉为名，\n广招英雄贴\n实为灭找茬客\n\n真相如下：\nA和B决斗\nA广告说要多人一起修炼增加功力\n当C和D说，A啊，你这剑法有几处至命伤，\n这样子上场，必死无疑。\nA就说，[屏蔽词]的，你行你上\nA的鸡巴毛们就会说：CD你这个[屏蔽词]\n\n==================","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79498544f0e5116d19ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q8bc7736414ea360ad997","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":314,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-10-26T00:26:49.056Z","text":"二巡在给螺丝哥挖坑！？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf9fd44051056dcffd865","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8bc7736414ea360ad997","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9fd44051056dcffd865","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qa8de183f9bd2f60f297e","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":315,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-10-26T00:27:56.475Z","text":"是的，原来那个叫上诉。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q40075d4e2323ddc2d686","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8de183f9bd2f60f297e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40075d4e2323ddc2d686","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q67cd23196b4718cf6098","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":316,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-10-26T00:38:38.866Z","text":"有人付钱的话，就能给第二巡回法庭发电子邮件了吗？\n还是必须要发纸质邮件！？\n除了说自己的被禁止上传了，我还能在邮件里提到其他人的自诉邮件也被禁止上传了这件事吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q49a8fac6ae9cd9ce3ded","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67cd23196b4718cf6098","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q49a8fac6ae9cd9ce3ded","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q4c3fe09334f9f671fe18","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":317,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-26T00:44:06.893Z","text":"真相是，A从来没想要任何人一起修炼，其他人也只想自己干自己的，C和D在一旁冷嘲热讽，A说你们能不能说几句有用的，然后A问了几个问题， C和D从来不正面回答，其他人说CD你这个[屏蔽词]","edited":true,"reply_to":"q79498544f0e5116d19ee","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c3fe09334f9f671fe18","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79498544f0e5116d19ee","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q92170e0a6cf6945eaba8","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":318,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-26T00:46:08.436Z","text":"长岛的狗，歪曲事实你们可真行。我用Ai的文，你就挑那个问题，就直接说","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4c3fe09334f9f671fe18","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q92170e0a6cf6945eaba8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c3fe09334f9f671fe18","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q5ce20e11f47f3c882b25","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":319,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-26T00:51:29.477Z","text":"我觉得可以写其他人的情况，只要是真实的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q67cd23196b4718cf6098","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ce20e11f47f3c882b25","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67cd23196b4718cf6098","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q82eb9c26c8fd53bf6a24","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":320,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-10-26T00:56:42.706Z","text":"［用户 rui***］ ［用户 chu***］ \n这哥们今天肯定要挨领导批评了，一大清早就把自己给自爆了，还连带把自己搭配作战的小伙伴也给爆了。代号c和d。可以根据他的这段话，大家分析找出c和d。\n今天d也肯定要向他们领导告发c自爆事件的。","edited":true,"reply_to":"q79498544f0e5116d19ee","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82eb9c26c8fd53bf6a24","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79498544f0e5116d19ee","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q77a499e572796d03c341","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":321,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-26T00:57:10.857Z","text":"原来都是长岛的一路货啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q82eb9c26c8fd53bf6a24","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77a499e572796d03c341","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82eb9c26c8fd53bf6a24","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q59f244dbccdd1f16a85e","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":322,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-10-26T00:58:21.418Z","text":"突然提长岛，话题线接不上啊，生拉硬拽的转移，合适吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q77a499e572796d03c341","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59f244dbccdd1f16a85e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77a499e572796d03c341","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qee4d15896e7c0efc1c4f","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":323,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-10-26T01:00:21.747Z","text":"大清早发了不该发的，本来以为自己写了个多么讽刺的段子结果现在懊恼不已。\n把自己都搞崩溃了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee4d15896e7c0efc1c4f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qb70ac48e8cce530fbc13","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":324,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-10-26T01:01:21.443Z","text":"撤销也来不及了吧。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb70ac48e8cce530fbc13","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q9da61a34edf00eaf536c","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":325,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-26T01:12:08.245Z","text":"没想到螺丝哥发个二巡就搞疯一个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9da61a34edf00eaf536c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q956fce6b1c3673b67cf9","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":326,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-26T01:12:35.053Z","text":"以后其他人都去二巡，这群要成疯人院了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q956fce6b1c3673b67cf9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qd8565bc8e75ee5b57cae","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":327,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-10-26T01:13:56.447Z","text":"干沉默了，和脱蕾丝那边也不上传了，600美元不挣了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q956fce6b1c3673b67cf9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8565bc8e75ee5b57cae","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q956fce6b1c3673b67cf9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q792442bc4db1e5506b3c","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":328,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-26T01:27:17.271Z","text":"你二巡先需要立案 立案后 再申请账号 你才能在ec里面发","edited":false,"reply_to":"q67cd23196b4718cf6098","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q792442bc4db1e5506b3c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67cd23196b4718cf6098","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q0b6561f30cd119b23659","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":329,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-26T01:59:46.514Z","text":"🧭 三、现实可行的突破路径（绕过二巡 clerk）\n\n下面几种方式在实际 pro se 操作中是有成功先例的：\n\n路径 A：寄给 Chief Judge （首席法官）办公室\n\n> 在信封上加粗写：\n\n“To the Attention of: The Honorable [首席法官姓名], Chief Judge, U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit — Confidential Judicial Correspondence (Not for Clerk Screening)”\n\n\n\n理由：\n联邦司法行政手册规定，Chief Judge office mail 可直接转法官助理，不经过普通 clerk 分拣。\n内容可附一页说明：\n\n> “This petition concerns the Clerk’s Office’s refusal to docket a mandamus filing, effectively denying access to the Court. I respectfully request the Chief Judge’s review under FRAP 25(a)(4).”\n\n\n\n这样邮件至少会到法官助理桌面，而不是直接退回。\n\n\n---\n\n路径 B：同步寄给 Administrative Office (AOUSC)\n\n地址：\n\n> Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts\nAttn: Judicial Conduct and Disability Office\nOne Columbus Circle NE, Washington DC 20544\n\n\n\n理由：\nAO 有权受理“系统性拒收 filing 的行为”作为“行政违规”。\n附上 USPS 签收单和退件信。\n这会在后台触发 AO 联系 Second Circuit Executive Office 核查。\n\n\n---\n\n路径 C：Constructive Filing + 后续 Mandamus\n\n1️⃣ 你寄出 Cover Letter + Constructive Declaration（即便被拒收）。\n2️⃣ 60 天后，写一份 Renewed Mandamus Petition，首段引用：\n\n> “Petitioner constructively filed on [date] as evidenced by USPS receipt and Clerk’s acknowledgment letter dated [date].\nThe continued refusal to docket constitutes a denial of access to court under Thompson v. INS (1964).”\n\n\n\n3️⃣ 附 tracking number 、签收页、之前拒收信，\n重新邮寄给 Chief Judge office （路径 A）。\n法官助理看到这个格式，会把它登记为“Judicial Inquiry — Pending Clerk Action”，从而进入内部系统。\n大家上诉卡在二巡书记处，以上内容可供参考。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b6561f30cd119b23659","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qdd836642406c38b53baa","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":330,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-26T02:04:36.503Z","text":"我前面也说过了  直接到 办公室 助理","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0b6561f30cd119b23659","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd836642406c38b53baa","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b6561f30cd119b23659","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qec2d0b2d3f518950dc4b","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":331,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-26T02:04:49.455Z","text":"因为AZ 就是直接联系助理","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec2d0b2d3f518950dc4b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q50e6ac71cd83f18b8aed","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":332,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-26T02:06:48.283Z","text":"在az，是州法院还是联邦法院？如果没有先尝试通过书记处提交，直接邮寄法官办公室是否属于不被接受的操作？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdd836642406c38b53baa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50e6ac71cd83f18b8aed","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd836642406c38b53baa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qafd609c62c4b0aa22fd4","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":333,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-26T02:08:04.695Z","text":"不会，因为有这一步程序，他不会直接叫你给她，给她增加工作量","edited":false,"reply_to":"q50e6ac71cd83f18b8aed","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qafd609c62c4b0aa22fd4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50e6ac71cd83f18b8aed","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q385fc13dff50c3053057","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":334,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-26T02:09:28.629Z","text":"AZ 那边 信息全部透明，直接给法院图书馆打电话 解答一切规范 问题，还直接给你秘书电话  可以直通","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q385fc13dff50c3053057","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qe5bc164a6fb1082e49b0","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":335,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-26T02:09:45.199Z","text":"当然都是因为我付了钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5bc164a6fb1082e49b0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q36dc332053abf75f193f","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":336,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-26T02:10:22.436Z","text":"二巡那边，应该是前台收到后，分拣到书记处自诉部门，书记员程序性审核，然后就被拦截。由于属于新立案，没有可直接寄送的法官办公室。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36dc332053abf75f193f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q191f3c420e63bd1578b4","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":337,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-26T02:11:05.458Z","text":"我提交文件后，秘书还主动联系了我，电话给我，然后说会email我 参加hearing","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q191f3c420e63bd1578b4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qfff2daec2619a1e30c1e","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":338,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-26T02:11:48.099Z","text":"寄给二巡首席法官办公室属于正常程序走不通，让二巡首席法官行政介入。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfff2daec2619a1e30c1e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q1aaac7e002aec9905cce","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":339,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-26T02:11:59.464Z","text":"AZ法院真的很赚钱，但是服务也很到位","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1aaac7e002aec9905cce","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q424868d5dd6dbd6673a6","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":340,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-10-26T02:12:21.260Z","text":"二巡他们是给了600刀的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q424868d5dd6dbd6673a6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q90948fa75acb8d984717","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":341,"speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-10-26T02:12:38.529Z","text":"那应该 服务到位，不到位可以投诉","edited":false,"reply_to":"q424868d5dd6dbd6673a6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90948fa75acb8d984717","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q424868d5dd6dbd6673a6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qfdf8e35ae153f800defd","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":342,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-26T02:58:07.962Z","text":"问题还不是去二巡 二是二巡之后我的杀招 那个时候他们不是要心肌梗塞🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q956fce6b1c3673b67cf9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfdf8e35ae153f800defd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q956fce6b1c3673b67cf9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q37d30416cca767c6c728","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":343,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-26T05:04:31.778Z","text":"我的二巡上诉基本上搞好了。弄了我十来天的时间。头晕脑胀。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37d30416cca767c6c728","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q3ce948402334fa333c07","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":344,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-26T05:07:29.862Z","text":"下周发出去。还要交600刀。爱郭贼及老椅子们也不赞助赞助一下。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ce948402334fa333c07","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q61549d8ddbb3535ffc5f","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":345,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-26T05:09:46.003Z","text":"［用户 hah***］  ［用户 zci***］  我建议你们都淡定一点 就是个破二巡 你们没必要大惊小怪 老郭说让你们健身健心 等你们知道我的真正杀招 才不会心肌梗塞","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61549d8ddbb3535ffc5f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qf416067c703e0370be70","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":346,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-26T05:14:09.379Z","text":"Z某己经开始失态了。以前不温不火、－副伪君子样，现在还居然骂我，我又没招惹它。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q61549d8ddbb3535ffc5f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf416067c703e0370be70","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61549d8ddbb3535ffc5f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q0428635b532d005910de","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":347,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-26T05:15:35.934Z","text":"他总是在他自以为的关键时刻出现","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0428635b532d005910de","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qf2d5f08ba21cc003bb60","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":348,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-10-26T05:15:52.407Z","text":"别人可能不承认，但我可以为此背书。瑞恩的杀招是真的，郭很快会获释，我不能掌控其他带风向的人继续反驳，没有权限，但大家可以相信我，因为我被说服了。真心需要郭获释的人，务必紧跟他的思路，除非你执迷不悟或者想添堵","edited":false,"reply_to":"q61549d8ddbb3535ffc5f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2d5f08ba21cc003bb60","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61549d8ddbb3535ffc5f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qf5aba7bb47a6117d153e","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":349,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-26T05:16:48.799Z","text":"它整天惦记着一月份的量刑。文贵到底跟它有何仇？抢了它老婆还是花了它的钱？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5aba7bb47a6117d153e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q94b5d2e20ffaa6d64530","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":350,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-10-26T05:16:49.995Z","text":"我也不是骂你，我是说你是最笨的之一，当然这是反话。你看对人了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf416067c703e0370be70","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94b5d2e20ffaa6d64530","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf416067c703e0370be70","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qc144b011a1fc97488fb9","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":351,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-10-26T05:17:10.787Z","text":"其他人多少有些模棱两可，不都是百分百信任瑞恩。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc144b011a1fc97488fb9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q87bfedc554968c7be8d5","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":352,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-10-26T05:17:54.417Z","text":"跟你道歉。明年初郭很快获释，祝贺你，巾帼英雄，让多少没坚持下来的战友汗颜。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87bfedc554968c7be8d5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q81a675ef07f558ebc1fa","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":353,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-26T05:20:11.434Z","text":"我第一次听懂你的话。但是也许我还理解错了呢。😂😂😂😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81a675ef07f558ebc1fa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q432737611331d8275157","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":354,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-10-26T05:23:41.108Z","text":"怎么会呢？我之前所言皆不得已，但我现在认为确实瑞恩思路的成功不可阻拦，无意螳臂当车试图阻扰，不如坦诚交代my part in the sabotage，也算为convert你们潜在不十分信任瑞恩的战友尽点力，表份歉意，毕竟七哥也希望多几个人登上喜马拉雅，而不是真的越来越少","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q432737611331d8275157","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qe0555c164bfce3dd3228","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":355,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-10-26T05:24:50.071Z","text":"确实只有他的路线是正确，你可以翻翻我的记录，我是不是说只有他是个骗子；那是因为他的计划有用，而我不得已需要阻扰，这个逻辑是很显然的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0555c164bfce3dd3228","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qb1d4faf9608016172e0c","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":356,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-26T05:28:54.075Z","text":"你这个话我听着怎么这么奇怪","edited":false,"reply_to":"q432737611331d8275157","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1d4faf9608016172e0c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q432737611331d8275157","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q64c9978458c58a1220df","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":357,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-26T05:29:04.852Z","text":"你不带风向了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64c9978458c58a1220df","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qae4b14697ed535069f4d","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":358,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-10-26T05:29:13.619Z","text":"不带了，想通了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae4b14697ed535069f4d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q00a5dd96769cf2c5aa09","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":359,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-26T05:29:13.742Z","text":"这让我更加警惕","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00a5dd96769cf2c5aa09","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q722432e8ae0c793740cc","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":360,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-26T05:30:12.026Z","text":"他是带任务的。也许他现在任务结束，开始说让我听得懂的人话了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb1d4faf9608016172e0c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q722432e8ae0c793740cc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1d4faf9608016172e0c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q3c0c6797cc114415486b","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":361,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-10-26T05:30:47.245Z","text":"历史和事实无法阻拦，没意义继续完成不可能的任务。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c0c6797cc114415486b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q0fd7c073bbdef847bea5","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":362,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-26T05:31:01.564Z","text":"哈哈 我不认为任务结束了 他的任务才刚刚开始","edited":false,"reply_to":"q722432e8ae0c793740cc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0fd7c073bbdef847bea5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q722432e8ae0c793740cc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q476f7f5402a5d8772789","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":363,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-26T05:31:14.940Z","text":"他难就难在没法摸清楚我的招数","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q476f7f5402a5d8772789","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q20d74f6562c6bc01df81","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":364,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-26T05:31:26.631Z","text":"我对Z某第一次用人的称谓，开始瞧得起他了一丢丢。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20d74f6562c6bc01df81","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q64fcfb85baa379fed4bd","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":365,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-10-26T05:31:29.698Z","text":"如果我碰巧看到有带风向的，我也会帮助批驳，只要是和瑞恩的有冲突的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64fcfb85baa379fed4bd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q4eb832522547ff66dc8f","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":366,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-26T05:31:45.630Z","text":"如果他能提前预判到 说不定还是能阻止一些","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4eb832522547ff66dc8f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q5f9cbc9bcab2d92b3061","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":367,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-26T05:32:08.051Z","text":"我觉得你被他骗了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q20d74f6562c6bc01df81","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f9cbc9bcab2d92b3061","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20d74f6562c6bc01df81","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qe0a5b633c979cf03a1d8","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":368,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-10-26T05:32:12.746Z","text":"因为我这边得到的信息是确定只有他的思路是对的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0a5b633c979cf03a1d8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q082fbdb9e09f94b65f47","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":369,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-26T05:32:16.446Z","text":"他真正的任务才刚刚开始","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q082fbdb9e09f94b65f47","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qaf81183fe90a3a37f16d","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":370,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-26T05:32:31.516Z","text":"谁给你的信息 律师吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe0a5b633c979cf03a1d8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf81183fe90a3a37f16d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0a5b633c979cf03a1d8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q9cd643230eb458200844","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":371,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-26T05:32:59.609Z","text":"这就是你们这群人和我最大的不同 你们靠信息 靠猜 靠赌 就是别靠自己判断","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe0a5b633c979cf03a1d8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9cd643230eb458200844","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0a5b633c979cf03a1d8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qf6ac93d1fa57bcaabdb2","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":372,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-26T05:33:26.279Z","text":"典型的弱势文化属性 这就是为什么我看不起你们 ［用户 zci***］","edited":true,"reply_to":"q9cd643230eb458200844","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6ac93d1fa57bcaabdb2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9cd643230eb458200844","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q88e51d7ed9d8793c938b","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":373,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-26T05:33:26.821Z","text":"他没机会骗我。我都屏蔽他了。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5f9cbc9bcab2d92b3061","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q88e51d7ed9d8793c938b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f9cbc9bcab2d92b3061","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q01d5e945c0324237e393","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":374,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-26T05:34:28.002Z","text":"更别提靠自己设计怎么给郭翻案 也更别提怎么靠自己阻止我们这群人翻案","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9cd643230eb458200844","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01d5e945c0324237e393","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9cd643230eb458200844","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q1875b0cfb004453baec9","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":375,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-10-26T05:34:56.436Z","text":"是的，我自愧不如，这也是我被说服的原因之一。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1875b0cfb004453baec9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q64b463a69047ac4174e8","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":376,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-26T05:35:05.840Z","text":"他们只认钱、接受指令。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64b463a69047ac4174e8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qb9ff821775789acecf62","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":377,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-10-26T05:35:16.619Z","text":"蚍蜉撼树，阻拦只有伤到自己","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9ff821775789acecf62","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qd5aad1daae0550fc2d5b","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":378,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-10-26T05:35:55.693Z","text":"瑞恩的思路确实拦不住了，郭很快会获释，我希望其他几个带风向的想通，虽然我们彼此不在一个线路不认识对方","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5aad1daae0550fc2d5b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qe5f3139d0e2e59695f2f","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":379,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-26T05:36:25.697Z","text":"你这也是带风向 捧杀","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd5aad1daae0550fc2d5b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5f3139d0e2e59695f2f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5aad1daae0550fc2d5b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q1ef619312cf3cdac2c0b","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":380,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-26T05:36:35.456Z","text":"还真有带风向的？😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ef619312cf3cdac2c0b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q1305871acb66964cbdbf","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":381,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-10-26T05:37:00.325Z","text":"什么意思？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe5f3139d0e2e59695f2f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1305871acb66964cbdbf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5f3139d0e2e59695f2f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qb78330c61ccea327b543","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":382,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-26T05:37:06.250Z","text":"我的思路拦不住 是事实 但我就算把王炸全都打出来 也不代表郭一定获释","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd5aad1daae0550fc2d5b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb78330c61ccea327b543","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5aad1daae0550fc2d5b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qb7c3cb378daae6dd839e","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":383,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-26T05:37:10.488Z","text":"还有一段时间的博弈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7c3cb378daae6dd839e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q8899df9734de40622ee1","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":384,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-10-26T05:37:19.751Z","text":"是吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb78330c61ccea327b543","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8899df9734de40622ee1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb78330c61ccea327b543","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q05194d2d4069df604ba2","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":385,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-26T05:37:26.098Z","text":"我能做到的就是把事情闹大","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05194d2d4069df604ba2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q52f0c882181844368247","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":386,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-26T05:37:42.188Z","text":"郭一秒钟不获释 下一秒 他们的压力会指数级别上升","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52f0c882181844368247","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qbf483c6f18a632eeaee8","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":387,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-26T05:38:08.774Z","text":"通过制造高压锅逼宫局 迫使所有人进入局里绞杀","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf483c6f18a632eeaee8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qcb187005a940d8d90241","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":388,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-26T05:38:15.375Z","text":"郭以前说过，中共的特务们都是单线联系，他们彼此之间不知道对方是谁，只对他们的上级负责。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb187005a940d8d90241","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qbc90ea62b13a405fb11a","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":389,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-10-26T05:38:21.140Z","text":"我得知你的思路一定能让郭获释","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc90ea62b13a405fb11a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q537aee9dd831b47512bf","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":390,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-26T05:38:36.079Z","text":"愿闻其详 我他妈都不知道","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbc90ea62b13a405fb11a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q537aee9dd831b47512bf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc90ea62b13a405fb11a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qa7c184c904526fe72151","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":391,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-26T05:38:45.569Z","text":"你的上级咋分析的 我洗耳恭听","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7c184c904526fe72151","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q71c2485b9f0d936147e8","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":392,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-10-26T05:38:59.338Z","text":"我不知道细节","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71c2485b9f0d936147e8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qdfd8a0a2257af097f68f","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":393,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-26T05:39:15.428Z","text":"那你说个屁呀","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdfd8a0a2257af097f68f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q6244d062b2888274a2e9","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":394,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-10-26T05:39:32.773Z","text":"但我觉得你自己反驳你的思路的有效性，挺奇怪的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6244d062b2888274a2e9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q8c967b8b9a03a5f0880a","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":395,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-26T05:39:39.896Z","text":"那你说说 给你这个消息的人 是律师？还是党内精英？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c967b8b9a03a5f0880a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"qfe09e71414c2d4253aaa","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":396,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-26T05:40:26.519Z","text":"我说了 我就代表自己 我的目的根本不是忽悠别人来信我","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6244d062b2888274a2e9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe09e71414c2d4253aaa","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6244d062b2888274a2e9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q96c02338d2e1588ac67c","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":397,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-10-26T05:40:42.921Z","text":"真正的上级都心狠手辣的，他们只会对下级指派任务，不会告诉下级太多的东西。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q96c02338d2e1588ac67c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q7535244a52a02b0131b3","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":398,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-26T05:40:46.887Z","text":"［用户 zci***］ 你对我的理解一开始就错的离谱 你一直都以为我要像联盟一样忽悠人信","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7535244a52a02b0131b3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q85932a0d4a9ff83e88f2","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":399,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-26T05:40:54.420Z","text":"这个确实","edited":false,"reply_to":"q96c02338d2e1588ac67c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85932a0d4a9ff83e88f2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q96c02338d2e1588ac67c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"},{"id":"q41e8473b41e6427ae388","batch_id":"batch-000052","seq":400,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-10-26T05:41:10.077Z","text":"那时违心话，我的策略，不是我真实意思。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7535244a52a02b0131b3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41e8473b41e6427ae388","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7535244a52a02b0131b3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000052"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000051","next_batch_id":"batch-000053"}