{"id":"batch-000055","number":55,"revision":1,"date_start":"2025-11-05T06:23:07.927Z","date_end":"2025-11-10T04:24:38.121Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 055 (Nov 5, 2025 – Nov 10, 2025), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Participants debated legal case progress and procedural boundaries, focusing on alleged judicial fraud and potential judicial or prosecutorial overreach. Debates centered on whether procedural docket entries 507, 505, 679, 733, and 765 could trigger appellate review or overturn the case. Members clashed over organized publicity campaigns versus avoiding overextension, filing mechanics, and victim standing. 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春","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5037e31052c216eae2d7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q1391f816174e035c391f","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":602,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T02:32:19.049Z","text":"还有其他人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1391f816174e035c391f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q2a3d18a2534f69589e7b","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":603,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T02:32:55.377Z","text":"剿匪的事情我就不关心了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd0e375fac443c3a034db","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a3d18a2534f69589e7b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q8ad158b9047a55842f46","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":604,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T02:33:00.573Z","text":"我就负责把案件推翻","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ad158b9047a55842f46","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q99b974e9be494f094e83","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":605,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-09T02:39:41.889Z","text":"春字有木吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5037e31052c216eae2d7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99b974e9be494f094e83","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5037e31052c216eae2d7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q426580710a50a8319fcc","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":606,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T02:40:15.927Z","text":"春意盎然 木气最旺","edited":false,"reply_to":"q99b974e9be494f094e83","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q426580710a50a8319fcc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99b974e9be494f094e83","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qe152c67206835079a356","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":607,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T02:40:31.556Z","text":"不止是木字 还有寓意也算","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe152c67206835079a356","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q7a5bbc18cbe305da9ae9","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":608,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T02:40:38.971Z","text":"还有好几个人是木字","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a5bbc18cbe305da9ae9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q7a8703d169ae222e89f2","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":609,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T02:40:41.997Z","text":"比如我","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a8703d169ae222e89f2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q56d31df8af0cb3c5604e","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":610,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-09T02:45:44.387Z","text":"哦，郭以前不说什么火灭共？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q426580710a50a8319fcc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56d31df8af0cb3c5604e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q426580710a50a8319fcc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qbe5a069ca3f49b7c8111","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":611,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-09T02:54:31.277Z","text":"这群里除了你不停提剿匪，其他人好像都没提过吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe183b7d4cc5041a9bdd7","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe5a069ca3f49b7c8111","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q845db7be45ae13e96327","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":612,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-11-09T03:10:21.546Z","text":"看样子，你们这群里的有些[屏蔽词]，和砸郭的同道，只是变相的抹黑和去郭化啊","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q845db7be45ae13e96327","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qefe4a409852fe78bee67","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":613,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-09T03:15:38.525Z","text":"你误会了，这群里最想剿匪的其实就是[删节：成员身份]同学","edited":true,"reply_to":"q845db7be45ae13e96327","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qefe4a409852fe78bee67","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q845db7be45ae13e96327","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q92205745f5fa65055ed8","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":614,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-09T03:15:54.049Z","text":"你看他天天提剿匪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q92205745f5fa65055ed8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q02e57caf5d0779cd3634","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":615,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T03:16:30.212Z","text":"我本来就是砸郭的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q845db7be45ae13e96327","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02e57caf5d0779cd3634","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q845db7be45ae13e96327","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qd327f59c9ee7faf6697c","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":616,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-11-09T03:17:46.357Z","text":"你砸着砸着就不小心把郭的锁链砸碎了。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q02e57caf5d0779cd3634","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd327f59c9ee7faf6697c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02e57caf5d0779cd3634","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qe021e73124b65183c560","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":617,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T03:17:52.517Z","text":"提醒你一下 二巡立案了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc802bc31282f96527e1e","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe021e73124b65183c560","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qfcb95139d55387e2d9c1","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":618,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T03:18:22.823Z","text":"我们几个二巡案子都会到时候并案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfcb95139d55387e2d9c1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q9154d46dd0ad6ac6f8e3","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":619,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T03:18:39.101Z","text":"那你说的是第二巡回法庭","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9e18a8389d75e0b113b3","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9154d46dd0ad6ac6f8e3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qbe7ac561ebe21f25f6a8","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":620,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T03:18:45.027Z","text":"因为立案了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe7ac561ebe21f25f6a8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q7d18ef5faa02237ffd74","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":621,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T03:20:28.211Z","text":"二巡靠我的精神病ai幻觉证据立案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d18ef5faa02237ffd74","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q23cbb2d0a54ffd3e4e6d","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":622,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T03:20:39.313Z","text":"那不是我的问题 是二巡的问题了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23cbb2d0a54ffd3e4e6d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q023e158ac31bd904bdb4","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":623,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-11-09T03:21:58.637Z","text":"你是周一立案的，二巡是周几收到你的邮件的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbe7ac561ebe21f25f6a8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q023e158ac31bd904bdb4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe7ac561ebe21f25f6a8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q2ea7f4490b771a25af92","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":624,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T03:22:12.563Z","text":"周五吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q023e158ac31bd904bdb4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ea7f4490b771a25af92","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q023e158ac31bd904bdb4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q3cb2113c0f7d90ef3b60","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":625,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-11-09T03:23:40.507Z","text":"那真的是很快。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2ea7f4490b771a25af92","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3cb2113c0f7d90ef3b60","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ea7f4490b771a25af92","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qc5ecb35da6baef2564b8","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":626,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T03:38:59.357Z","text":"我猜你周一立案概率大","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3cb2113c0f7d90ef3b60","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5ecb35da6baef2564b8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3cb2113c0f7d90ef3b60","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q6d0276c07738a650b0aa","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":627,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T03:39:04.903Z","text":"加拿大公民他们也惹不起","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d0276c07738a650b0aa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qff6121a656863d765f31","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":628,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T03:52:57.474Z","text":"他们本来就想这么干","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa02b9e0373b09cff3cae","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff6121a656863d765f31","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q785ba797b0d0d51e4ab4","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":629,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:03:41.206Z","text":"我现在知道为什么不惜司法欺诈也要把老郭先关进去了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1223b0beba77bd487efd","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q785ba797b0d0d51e4ab4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q8464b257d936e92a0886","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":630,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:05:17.767Z","text":"托雷斯 检方 luc 法官 法庭 联盟 需要这个时间去排练庭审","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8464b257d936e92a0886","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q67d0077b97afa610ee36","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":631,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:05:30.744Z","text":"从315 到716 一年四个月","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67d0077b97afa610ee36","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q9e4e7ccca939c6f22146","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":632,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:05:34.331Z","text":"排练时间够了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e4e7ccca939c6f22146","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q2852e6bd8d8d52053196","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":633,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:25:14.744Z","text":"反正我认为他们就趁机排练","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2852e6bd8d8d52053196","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q9ef31c8d2ce4a10fcad9","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":634,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-11-09T04:25:44.055Z","text":"那些呈现给陪审团的所谓共谋者陈述，是不是被告被审前拘押期间的陈述？现在是受害者身份的，检方不是说受害者被骗了吗，受害者想知道自己到底是怎么被骗的，受害者可以去向司法部申请展示全部证据。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ef31c8d2ce4a10fcad9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qd8b9956fee57eab22a20","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":635,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-09T04:28:10.840Z","text":"除了那127人（可能共匪）， 其他的检方口中的 thousands of victims - 检方没有名字 和定义吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9ef31c8d2ce4a10fcad9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8b9956fee57eab22a20","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ef31c8d2ce4a10fcad9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q00992895e690bfe32ce1","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":636,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:28:41.426Z","text":"检方肯定也不会回复的😄","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9ef31c8d2ce4a10fcad9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00992895e690bfe32ce1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ef31c8d2ce4a10fcad9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q109c20438548a0b46e02","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":637,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:28:48.534Z","text":"连法官都不回复 检方更不可能","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q109c20438548a0b46e02","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q09bd8eac4d42423e8276","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":638,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-09T04:28:49.648Z","text":"所以到底谁是检方口中的受害者？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q09bd8eac4d42423e8276","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q37fc68cb6c2530da84c9","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":639,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-11-09T04:28:53.020Z","text":"它说的不是共谋者就是受害者。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd8b9956fee57eab22a20","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37fc68cb6c2530da84c9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8b9956fee57eab22a20","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q322c73d73dfc68203b6f","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":640,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:29:05.513Z","text":"不是共谋犯 就是受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q322c73d73dfc68203b6f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qc9d4ee80a767200091c2","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":641,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:29:24.832Z","text":"所以既然共谋名单没有我名字 根据检方定义 我以受害者介入 合理合法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9d4ee80a767200091c2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q90780b26244114f31785","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":642,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:29:34.169Z","text":"[屏蔽词]739 742 还要打击我受害者的身份","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90780b26244114f31785","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q7ec3c2f64e2a67172ac0","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":643,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-09T04:30:10.440Z","text":"那么检方口中的受害者， 肯定是有G系列投资的了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q322c73d73dfc68203b6f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ec3c2f64e2a67172ac0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q322c73d73dfc68203b6f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q86adf5d01d5741f64a55","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":644,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:30:25.718Z","text":"对啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7ec3c2f64e2a67172ac0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86adf5d01d5741f64a55","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ec3c2f64e2a67172ac0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q65d3eb9fb72611b6e1ac","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":645,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:30:37.900Z","text":"反正受害者只有gtv 要么债权人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65d3eb9fb72611b6e1ac","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qe871ead41199db4118f8","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":646,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:30:47.078Z","text":"刚被抓那时候 肯定就这两个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe871ead41199db4118f8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qaa19985a52e47d2b7637","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":647,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-11-09T04:30:55.978Z","text":"可以把程序走扎实留痕，先先检方申请，检方拒绝，再向法院申请命令检方展示，法院不理，要把这个给展示出来。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q00992895e690bfe32ce1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa19985a52e47d2b7637","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00992895e690bfe32ce1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q6d84e6044d19081e2149","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":648,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:31:14.122Z","text":"不用了 我下一个动议直接让二巡推翻定罪","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaa19985a52e47d2b7637","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d84e6044d19081e2149","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa19985a52e47d2b7637","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q7574f0f485ecae5d3842","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":649,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-09T04:31:15.262Z","text":"所以除了共谋， 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他们怎么办？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb14573131b0a5abb9994","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qe28eeed175271ac688e1","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":653,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:31:47.808Z","text":"那就真的翻案了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe28eeed175271ac688e1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qd3789b233bfe93240363","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":654,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:32:20.450Z","text":"[屏蔽词]盖尔为什么要组织六千多人","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3789b233bfe93240363","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qc76f4bad808fb39ed1af","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":655,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:32:30.140Z","text":"照理说盖尔只要做我已经做的事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc76f4bad808fb39ed1af","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q6cc38496c3f1751aa608","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":656,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:32:39.634Z","text":"他盖尔就是翻案英雄","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6cc38496c3f1751aa608","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qc8b26d340362002b22ce","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":657,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-11-09T04:32:40.130Z","text":"在自诉中可不可以要求翻案？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8b26d340362002b22ce","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qd7cebfb0fdcb39f131ae","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":658,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:32:46.133Z","text":"可以","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc8b26d340362002b22ce","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd7cebfb0fdcb39f131ae","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8b26d340362002b22ce","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q24939ae01806c3be19bf","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":659,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-09T04:32:48.648Z","text":"如果能这样， 中国人都应该感谢您！ 除了共匪","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6d84e6044d19081e2149","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q24939ae01806c3be19bf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d84e6044d19081e2149","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q0c3865edd6abb70e3d1b","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":660,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:32:51.015Z","text":"但你要有法律条文","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c3865edd6abb70e3d1b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qf6421ba2ab15f5fee4b2","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":661,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:33:31.764Z","text":"这案子的走向基本上没逃出我的推理 这次也一样 我这个动议发出去 他们不得不应对","edited":false,"reply_to":"q24939ae01806c3be19bf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6421ba2ab15f5fee4b2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q24939ae01806c3be19bf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q8905edcae295f08fa8be","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":662,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:33:38.901Z","text":"顶多他们拖几个月","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8905edcae295f08fa8be","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q95f09b1795a5f92df8c8","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":663,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:34:03.361Z","text":"想找我动议的漏洞是不可能的 我法庭文件写的东西 都是百分百的事实 我才会写","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95f09b1795a5f92df8c8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qc36a730c4d7ddd66e054","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":664,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-11-09T04:34:53.133Z","text":"那我就准备下一个动议了。该用什么理由呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd7cebfb0fdcb39f131ae","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc36a730c4d7ddd66e054","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd7cebfb0fdcb39f131ae","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q94789ded833294ee43cc","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":665,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:35:11.662Z","text":"你先别急","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc36a730c4d7ddd66e054","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94789ded833294ee43cc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc36a730c4d7ddd66e054","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q73aa64cb3ac530f0ebc5","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":666,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:35:17.140Z","text":"二巡有很多坑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73aa64cb3ac530f0ebc5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q9561be69e054e49b6ae5","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":667,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-09T04:36:17.722Z","text":"事实上 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当墙头草","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9561be69e054e49b6ae5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe7b2d7427cd2c680ceaf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9561be69e054e49b6ae5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q97d693953f32c6afa320","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":670,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:38:05.870Z","text":"盖尔这个[屏蔽词]是最[屏蔽词]的","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97d693953f32c6afa320","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q78f44d89185ae8ffe23e","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":671,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:38:10.371Z","text":"他有六千多人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78f44d89185ae8ffe23e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q81aec645d11e547ae9f6","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":672,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:38:24.681Z","text":"他是最有可能翻案的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81aec645d11e547ae9f6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q4c5f528d5fac650f9f49","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":673,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:39:10.409Z","text":"六千多受害者 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盖尔是[屏蔽词]最容易翻案的","edited":true,"reply_to":"q1203f4709a7a0085231f","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8855670a1e2dee54442c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qc49686b37c92f31b72eb","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":676,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-09T04:39:47.375Z","text":"郭先生律师事实上可以发个motion， 逼盖尔澄清 观点","edited":false,"reply_to":"q81aec645d11e547ae9f6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc49686b37c92f31b72eb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81aec645d11e547ae9f6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q1b6d909aa78c20cd9c6d","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":677,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:40:01.622Z","text":"别指望律师了 律师都是[屏蔽词]","edited":true,"reply_to":"qc49686b37c92f31b72eb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b6d909aa78c20cd9c6d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc49686b37c92f31b72eb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q0ee01979f0c23cdab85c","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":678,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-09T04:40:54.311Z","text":"盖尔胆敢说这6512人是受害人， 这6513个会告死他","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ee01979f0c23cdab85c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q80ea79e4d6b5c5303bff","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":679,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:41:14.780Z","text":"事实上已经是了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0ee01979f0c23cdab85c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80ea79e4d6b5c5303bff","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ee01979f0c23cdab85c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qdbf9167108b00e66e6a3","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":680,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:41:22.360Z","text":"他就是以crva介入的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbf9167108b00e66e6a3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qbdb789b76971009e7b8f","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":681,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:41:27.113Z","text":"嘴上不承认","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbdb789b76971009e7b8f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q53e2d679553bde48ef6d","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":682,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:41:30.089Z","text":"法律上已经是","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53e2d679553bde48ef6d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q1c9b3be4ff2fa84e7f03","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":683,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:41:38.889Z","text":"关键是 你当受害人 你干啥","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c9b3be4ff2fa84e7f03","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q77d896530ebdf39ea481","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":684,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-09T04:41:50.659Z","text":"嗯","edited":false,"reply_to":"q53e2d679553bde48ef6d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77d896530ebdf39ea481","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53e2d679553bde48ef6d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q3e3123f12cba103236f8","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":685,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:41:51.709Z","text":"受害人可以害老郭 也可以帮老郭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e3123f12cba103236f8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q0557ab54178f272a86ec","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":686,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:42:10.921Z","text":"律师都是[屏蔽词]","edited":true,"reply_to":"q2baf614b44fa55dc8ba5","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0557ab54178f272a86ec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q8c22c1b3c8b4a37e1f91","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":687,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-09T04:42:18.201Z","text":"这6512个认为盖尔是单纯要钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c22c1b3c8b4a37e1f91","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q7e5ab6f56b7fab80b683","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":688,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:42:44.525Z","text":"盖尔这个[屏蔽词] 我733 744 根本没提他 他说我733 744 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足够了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb9f5556deabf7969910","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q68b6ef3505850b2a835f","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":695,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-11-09T04:44:56.922Z","text":"他反水，想发文件，人家直接发ecf,没有人阻拦啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7ca37ff180d7c79e30b7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68b6ef3505850b2a835f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ca37ff180d7c79e30b7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qb42c50abe2bbb53c3793","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":696,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:45:08.948Z","text":"没用的 我们都二巡了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q68b6ef3505850b2a835f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb42c50abe2bbb53c3793","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68b6ef3505850b2a835f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q9727df88577d9ad9bc7c","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":697,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:45:18.052Z","text":"二巡的职权比他ecf大一万倍","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9727df88577d9ad9bc7c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qa3cb2f29fff67872604b","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":698,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-11-09T04:45:29.643Z","text":"［用户 beg***］ 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算是功劳😄","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa3cb2f29fff67872604b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe59d3b1445b809996bb3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa3cb2f29fff67872604b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q91e637310617dddf51bd","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":701,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:46:12.432Z","text":"盖尔就他吗的首鼠两端","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91e637310617dddf51bd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q44f2d6fa47efbffdf6bf","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":702,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:46:19.620Z","text":"他绝对想不到我居然能挖出司法欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44f2d6fa47efbffdf6bf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q02d7d5978b15f156510b","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":703,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:46:29.792Z","text":"现在他随时反水","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02d7d5978b15f156510b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qf245c0bc183fdfd9b327","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":704,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-09T04:47:04.121Z","text":"对老郭案件有利的， 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说你不是真受害人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7a38c27e09e449aba6f9","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qafda834d9fdb9e620233","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q705d811b6ba8109aa021","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":706,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-11-09T04:48:39.562Z","text":"我在679还有之前的文件，脉络清晰。我是被逼成受害者的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qafda834d9fdb9e620233","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q705d811b6ba8109aa021","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qafda834d9fdb9e620233","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q3714c45c6b9a6901f9d5","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":707,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-09T04:48:54.801Z","text":"他代表的6512人， 这些人应该联系盖尔， 给他压力。但是目前这6512人， 不知道该干这个","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7a38c27e09e449aba6f9","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3714c45c6b9a6901f9d5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q156b171d9ba3d78a8693","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":708,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:49:00.876Z","text":"对的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3714c45c6b9a6901f9d5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q156b171d9ba3d78a8693","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3714c45c6b9a6901f9d5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q2084deb3a81d7f064c18","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":709,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:49:10.939Z","text":"这6000多人真的是没救了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3714c45c6b9a6901f9d5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2084deb3a81d7f064c18","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3714c45c6b9a6901f9d5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q1e2477f54221b2e6326f","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":710,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:49:41.766Z","text":"咱们现在已经牛逼了 牛逼的人不用和[屏蔽词]合作","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e2477f54221b2e6326f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q8d9e281434ccbe38d1d7","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":711,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:49:50.137Z","text":"盖尔就他妈[屏蔽词]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d9e281434ccbe38d1d7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qd89414e7cd3697099045","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":712,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:49:56.371Z","text":"还有六千多人更是[屏蔽词]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd89414e7cd3697099045","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q555c14d9b4a20afd081d","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":713,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:51:57.967Z","text":"我他妈都懒的理盖儿","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6c972f2e941a334bf6f3","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q555c14d9b4a20afd081d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q6faaad017298964f8ea4","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":714,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-09T04:52:46.123Z","text":"螺丝哥可以把上面的的盖尔的观点 发推特 让那些人明白明白","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6faaad017298964f8ea4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q85bd958f8bbe7691734e","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":715,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:52:53.121Z","text":"对的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6faaad017298964f8ea4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85bd958f8bbe7691734e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6faaad017298964f8ea4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q87523413dcb48d6179e5","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":716,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:52:57.167Z","text":"［用户 chu***］ 有必要","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87523413dcb48d6179e5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q5279d72f0174423c6f35","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":717,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-11-09T04:53:46.964Z","text":"推特，我写不出来啊。比较复杂。我只能写比较简单的东西。这就是法庭文件我写的太烂的原因。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6faaad017298964f8ea4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5279d72f0174423c6f35","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6faaad017298964f8ea4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q4f1e86e56833c97d57d1","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":718,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:53:56.660Z","text":"发个视频就好","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5279d72f0174423c6f35","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f1e86e56833c97d57d1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5279d72f0174423c6f35","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qb500235ad06ce67968a0","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":719,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:54:07.897Z","text":"然后标题是 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不好说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2f3ebfcdc7f1c2ada31","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q35df2a797de25f9f59c1","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":722,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:56:03.220Z","text":"操 那真的没救了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q96f5bb4b9ab8cf3112b6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35df2a797de25f9f59c1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q96f5bb4b9ab8cf3112b6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qe390600be200e6b8dbd0","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":723,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:56:32.199Z","text":"肯定是盖尔","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb2f3ebfcdc7f1c2ada31","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe390600be200e6b8dbd0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2f3ebfcdc7f1c2ada31","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q363223fdb84ce822c316","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":724,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-11-09T04:57:50.196Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/1944170330425352358?s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q363223fdb84ce822c316","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q3dcdea220f2a801dd4f7","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":725,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T04:58:31.225Z","text":"[屏蔽词]青藤 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motion,阐明不是受害人的立场！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q363223fdb84ce822c316","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8ceddeab1e2bf435ddb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q363223fdb84ce822c316","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qcc93de0439b7a41c85bb","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":728,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-09T05:26:22.310Z","text":"（我把”傻” 和B去掉了 😂😂😂）","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc93de0439b7a41c85bb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qaa0b5eb5dec9fc0031d5","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":729,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T05:59:12.567Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge3/status/1987399504166068511?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa0b5eb5dec9fc0031d5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qf3a0ce1eb65e5b1eb317","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":730,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T06:01:48.129Z","text":"这里 我要对你提出批评 你一直让别人来理你 觉得没人搭理你就翻不了案了。 这是大错特错的！ 你看到我的二巡已经立案了 我们已经创造了历史 你看到谁敢提吗？我们把老郭弄出来的那一天 都不会有人敢在媒体上放一个屁！ 你太把别人当回事了 这个案子 你才是最牛逼的！ 我们这种级别的人 去找什么狗屁盖儿合作？太掉价了！！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6a4f54d4cbde115aa734","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3a0ce1eb65e5b1eb317","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q1bcd8d6b3e5c1dc13169","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":731,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T06:03:04.933Z","text":"什么狗屁大v 他们全都是[屏蔽词] 绊脚石 你碰到他们 要做的事情是把他们全部除掉 而不是和他们合作！","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1bcd8d6b3e5c1dc13169","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qf9bfd4ea223cf59f5617","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":732,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T06:05:28.069Z","text":"律师也全都是[屏蔽词]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9bfd4ea223cf59f5617","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q71d81fc02f5db797e452","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":733,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T06:05:35.260Z","text":"只有我们这个群是最牛逼的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71d81fc02f5db797e452","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q657d7b0ea4b702f1aada","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":734,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T06:05:45.822Z","text":"不需要别人了 我们自己就能翻案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q657d7b0ea4b702f1aada","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q54cab64f95eee9e36a3d","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":735,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T06:06:39.114Z","text":"老郭犯的错误 就是太把[屏蔽词]当回事 我们绝不能犯同样的错误！","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54cab64f95eee9e36a3d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q28000ab854d173d4a558","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":736,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-11-09T07:01:46.253Z","text":"立案是不是赢麻的意思","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf3a0ce1eb65e5b1eb317","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q28000ab854d173d4a558","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3a0ce1eb65e5b1eb317","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qba8f28c9616b00758204","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":737,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T07:05:52.244Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q28000ab854d173d4a558","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba8f28c9616b00758204","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q28000ab854d173d4a558","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q7d20909c1ea6bce36ef7","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":738,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T07:13:52.011Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge3/status/1987418306291400818?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d20909c1ea6bce36ef7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qb54caedd46265361deb4","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":739,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-11-09T07:34:56.185Z","text":"砸郭的 ，挺郭的，救郭的，翻案的，你们在什么角色上呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb54caedd46265361deb4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q0fa4c857e4ecdfdc7b7b","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":740,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T07:42:36.146Z","text":"少一个种类 既是砸郭的又是翻案的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb54caedd46265361deb4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0fa4c857e4ecdfdc7b7b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb54caedd46265361deb4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q22372052dda868267762","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":741,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-11-09T07:45:31.849Z","text":"没有真债权人。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22372052dda868267762","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q3dfc7e4ef6cb2d21f19c","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":742,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-09T08:11:30.177Z","text":"自动回复只表示收到，跟是否上传无关吧。按规定还是收到了必须上传是吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd395829c2b6c0b6b40f3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3dfc7e4ef6cb2d21f19c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd395829c2b6c0b6b40f3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q2041f8e90dea2eea9ec3","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":743,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T08:12:16.230Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3dfc7e4ef6cb2d21f19c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2041f8e90dea2eea9ec3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3dfc7e4ef6cb2d21f19c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q5b9009e4b8ad09dbf1d5","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":744,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-09T08:23:24.430Z","text":"七哥说过我就不信爆料革命都死光了被他们一直打","edited":false,"reply_to":"q88f14dd3f8cb76c98133","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b9009e4b8ad09dbf1d5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q4b68b5692e407eb35009","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":745,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T08:24:38.172Z","text":"https://x.com/turnpiont/status/1987328168852922566?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b68b5692e407eb35009","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q45d431d6074ca01601ba","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":746,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-09T08:28:40.809Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]不在乎名的","edited":true,"reply_to":"qca80dbba90e360620453","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45d431d6074ca01601ba","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca80dbba90e360620453","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q80498b59d49a244cb882","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":747,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-09T08:30:34.723Z","text":"大错特错，出来以后应该离他远远的，拿属于自己的，不是自己的碰都别碰。风暴中心不是人待的地方","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb016b6f570004b8b688b","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80498b59d49a244cb882","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q54912f6bc5bfa532edab","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":748,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-09T08:33:20.077Z","text":"既然已经跟着走这么久了\n，你应该明白不能用玩儿老虎机的心态对待，发生啥都是有可能的，发生了接受不了只能说是自己心理建设有问题","edited":false,"reply_to":"q320ed7ba73f806adeffe","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54912f6bc5bfa532edab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qb1bdbfc2a0331ae02540","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":749,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-09T08:38:44.298Z","text":"剿匪本来就跟咱们无关，咱们都是蚂蚁，想搬到大象本来就是痴人说梦。老郭也说了靠爆料革命这些人灭共他都死一万回了。真能灭共的人咱们永远也不知道更接触不到","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1bdbfc2a0331ae02540","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qabdc289e629f8f7e26ec","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":750,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-09T08:41:23.612Z","text":"咱们能参与进来一开始是凑热闹，后来有机会投资是郭感谢人们对他的支持。现在人们的心态都是因为心理一直还是看客心态，总想着捞点好处揩点油，从没想过自己还要遭遇这些风雨","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabdc289e629f8f7e26ec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q223cb8e4b34b447766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没有这个故事 投资就不成立","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q223cb8e4b34b4477662b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q85c4806f4477786491d5","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":752,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-09T09:09:01.680Z","text":"盖尔是来赚钱的，他才不关心什么老郭新郭的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q73634b8a2bcf07ddeee3","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85c4806f4477786491d5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qc90ff4a080c4568c6446","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":753,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-09T09:25:28.950Z","text":"这个半年前就呼吁过了，没用。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf8ceddeab1e2bf435ddb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc90ff4a080c4568c6446","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8ceddeab1e2bf435ddb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q65e6735fa9c6cdbb40bd","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":754,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-11-09T09:28:44.936Z","text":"共产党会生一个出来","edited":false,"reply_to":"q22372052dda868267762","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65e6735fa9c6cdbb40bd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22372052dda868267762","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q326af2624ec995d3fd1d","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":755,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-11-09T09:32:28.077Z","text":"那属于你分类的假债权人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q65e6735fa9c6cdbb40bd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q326af2624ec995d3fd1d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65e6735fa9c6cdbb40bd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q69e8196f90d1d921f267","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":756,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-11-09T09:38:00.259Z","text":"不是，这是战争，不是普通的法律问题，假的也会让一些成为真的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q326af2624ec995d3fd1d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69e8196f90d1d921f267","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q326af2624ec995d3fd1d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q38a7f93d648801dfcd2c","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":757,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-11-09T09:54:35.596Z","text":"作为局外人有个疑问：你觉得剿匪跟蚂蚁无关，那你加入进来的目的是什么？以及郭如果也认为灭共不靠蚂蚁，靠那些接触不到的人，那他汇聚起来蚂蚁成立可见的人和组织又是干什么？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb1bdbfc2a0331ae02540","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38a7f93d648801dfcd2c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1bdbfc2a0331ae02540","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q64bedc6eca8b1a9127de","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":758,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T09:56:52.595Z","text":"［用户 zci***］  我对你的上线很佩服 他可能比我更懂法律","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64bedc6eca8b1a9127de","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q8a834ba83dd991d34605","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":759,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-09T10:01:42.670Z","text":"我说的无关意思是灭共根本不是靠我们这些普通人，我们参与进来是每个人自己的选择。郭灭共的目的不是皇帝轮流做，今年到我家。他是要解放中国人，打破几千年的历史轮回，重塑华人的形象。最早参与进来的也是认同他的理念才参与的，当时可没有什么投资回报，纯靠志向相投","edited":false,"reply_to":"q38a7f93d648801dfcd2c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a834ba83dd991d34605","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38a7f93d648801dfcd2c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qa05112218553b502d1b6","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":760,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-11-09T10:06:37.510Z","text":"要尽快实现这些，想必郭越早出来越有利。切记沿着瑞恩的思路走，自己也要积极思考，看看能不能给瑞恩的方案查缺补漏增砖添瓦，共同努力应该还是很必要的虽然我不了解细节。但一定切记，瑞恩如果点头说对的部分，才可以纳入，他说不对，不要浪费时间，也别听怼他的人带风向","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa05112218553b502d1b6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q7f177014287c02e5d38e","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":761,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-11-09T10:07:38.813Z","text":"好像群里最近基本没人来打瑞恩了，我猜可能是因为有人看到我把只有瑞恩主思路正确，这个真实信息放出去后也觉得无力回天了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f177014287c02e5d38e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q17034d43de1847575a1b","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":762,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-09T10:10:42.781Z","text":"你这捧杀也太直白了，让人看了觉得太假，没水平","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa05112218553b502d1b6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17034d43de1847575a1b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa05112218553b502d1b6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q26bd05d7007774cbcd52","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":763,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-11-09T10:17:00.707Z","text":"一次两次倒可能是无脑针对我个人。我算是看出来了，我每次出来你都是类似说辞。你就是变法儿的想说瑞恩主思路不对，但你又不敢说别人更对之类的。所以只能说我在“捧杀”，尝试不点透地让旁人反向思考：如果我说的是“反话”，那说明我说的是假信息，你们跟随瑞恩的思路，郭就完了。    不过没关系，反正一句话，大家自己判断，这个群自己为自己做主。是我拿错思路捧杀，还是他在旁敲侧击挖瑞恩墙角，你们自己给自己做主判断吧，我毕竟也不清楚细节，只知道信息。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q17034d43de1847575a1b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26bd05d7007774cbcd52","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17034d43de1847575a1b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qed76e1839aa573e7287e","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":764,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-09T10:20:25.956Z","text":"你都不知道自己为什么这么说还天天嚷嚷啥，对不对我们自己会判断，这群里要是都看着别人的评价行事就不会走到现在。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q26bd05d7007774cbcd52","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed76e1839aa573e7287e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26bd05d7007774cbcd52","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q961f70a4419962ddb718","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":765,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-11-09T10:20:48.227Z","text":"自我做主，观者自辨。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q961f70a4419962ddb718","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q017be7a91c2e61236c74","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":766,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-09T11:12:48.318Z","text":"律师应该是给客户干事的， 客户要求他、给他压力，可能会有一些作用。但是这个律师如果被收买了，那么就无药可治。\n\n其实大家讨论某个人的行动能否对郭先生的案件有帮助， 像我们这样的小角色，能凭着良心，以还原事实真相的目的，在法律框架内，能帮什么就帮什么就好了。\n\n螺丝说了一句话： 老郭如果是你亲爹，你能2年多，啥也不干，不管吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc90ff4a080c4568c6446","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q017be7a91c2e61236c74","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc90ff4a080c4568c6446","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q4a4237daec9690c106e7","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":767,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-09T11:18:49.035Z","text":"Ed Martin, Pardon Attorney posted this today:\n\nReagan: “Facts are stubborn things.”","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a4237daec9690c106e7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qb22fa78f264d6e483881","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":768,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-11-09T11:23:30.132Z","text":"自诉的角色，不只是你们，还有其他角色","edited":false,"reply_to":"qea41097bdc0a2d8b3c35","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb22fa78f264d6e483881","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qa1e658bd0b4ab3fc63fb","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":769,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-11-09T11:24:44.277Z","text":"攻收方有时角色是可以互相转化的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1e658bd0b4ab3fc63fb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qe23d335090c582c77f57","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":770,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-11-09T11:30:29.738Z","text":"已经赢麻了 等待就行了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe23d335090c582c77f57","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q640b8a303239fc804aaf","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":771,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-11-09T11:31:15.778Z","text":"回本没问题 能不能致富就不知道了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q640b8a303239fc804aaf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qb81f6c90defd93d8a753","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":772,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-09T12:21:05.128Z","text":"盖尔是有任务的，如果拿的是中共的黑钱，他就没得选","edited":false,"reply_to":"q017be7a91c2e61236c74","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb81f6c90defd93d8a753","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q017be7a91c2e61236c74","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q621553ddbfd442850d6f","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":773,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-09T12:51:34.832Z","text":"所以， 事情又回到了螺丝 瑞恩小哥的观点： \n\n盖尔是谁推荐的？\n\n盖尔的6512人，从哪里来的？ 联盟组织的，联盟农场主、联盟负责人，协助推广的\n\n在法律界，能够代表千人以上的这么大的案件的律师不是小事儿","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb81f6c90defd93d8a753","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q621553ddbfd442850d6f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb81f6c90defd93d8a753","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qbfa6bc1d03cea85b245f","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":774,"speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-11-09T13:01:57.478Z","text":"https://x.com/testurheart/status/1968051237900996611?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":"q621553ddbfd442850d6f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbfa6bc1d03cea85b245f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q621553ddbfd442850d6f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q8535bd0215177b5f87d4","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":775,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-09T13:08:31.199Z","text":"不管他们出于什么动机， 看看盖尔代理的6512人在郭先生案件的法律结果 就行了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8535bd0215177b5f87d4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q3424eda1fc11cfc3aaed","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":776,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-09T13:11:08.802Z","text":"当时我看已经入卷的螺丝 瑞恩 小哥的法律文件时还在想，他们疯了吗，怎么还质疑 联盟负责人探视郭先生的真假 等等","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3424eda1fc11cfc3aaed","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q23b6782fc6f085df8a7a","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":777,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-11-09T13:25:58.978Z","text":"没有人来提取不同看法？说直接一点，这个现实会卡成“死循环”","edited":false,"reply_to":"qea41097bdc0a2d8b3c35","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23b6782fc6f085df8a7a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qec01a1913a220bfd8ff4","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":778,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-11-09T13:26:37.074Z","text":"群里这么多法律的AI高手，咋懵逼了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec01a1913a220bfd8ff4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qffe3de2e77a231e7b422","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":779,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-11-09T13:26:41.150Z","text":"卡BUG了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qffe3de2e77a231e7b422","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q96cc8814ab57fb1e1a0a","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":780,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-11-09T13:27:49.710Z","text":"AI没有给你这张图的结果，你就回答不出来了吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q96cc8814ab57fb1e1a0a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q79ca35c07a275f2e0df1","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":781,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T13:43:56.549Z","text":"联盟农场共谋犯😄","edited":false,"reply_to":"q621553ddbfd442850d6f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79ca35c07a275f2e0df1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q621553ddbfd442850d6f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q4817e56150e55ea32ce9","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":782,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-11-09T13:45:44.003Z","text":"瑞恩的梦想是不是回本","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4817e56150e55ea32ce9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qcac000efc6378adc3c1f","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":783,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-11-09T14:00:05.694Z","text":"解读盖尔，最牛逼的是小羊。最早的应该是砸锅的Percy","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8535bd0215177b5f87d4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcac000efc6378adc3c1f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8535bd0215177b5f87d4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q5298abf2fbb956925f9a","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":784,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-11-09T14:02:37.104Z","text":"看看我的手机。录了一个视频，建议盖尔反水的。上传半天多了。还没有成功。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5298abf2fbb956925f9a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q4d9fb17c143387bc5144","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":785,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-11-09T14:05:11.683Z","text":"https://x.com/dDiVul8m3g82864/status/1987220735203680509?s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d9fb17c143387bc5144","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q6ec712c43e7006810687","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":786,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T14:07:29.353Z","text":"不是 我的梦想是青史留名","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4817e56150e55ea32ce9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ec712c43e7006810687","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4817e56150e55ea32ce9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qdadf0102748d9da3d829","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":787,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T14:11:57.881Z","text":"765文件 好像对司法体系来说 非常非常震撼","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdadf0102748d9da3d829","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q1663ee232742340191f1","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":788,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T14:13:59.741Z","text":"法庭上所有人都被我羞辱了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1663ee232742340191f1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q91ee6bdee822ac4a1aab","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":789,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T14:17:22.309Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 你们如果还有想在南区发动议的 就用受害者介入 引用我的765 直接要求推翻定罪","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91ee6bdee822ac4a1aab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q65440dbbb00eb20f2cf0","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":790,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T14:17:50.257Z","text":"因为这是cronic structural error","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65440dbbb00eb20f2cf0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q360c2e2f168b888ec73b","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":791,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T14:18:48.694Z","text":"上了二巡的就别发了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q360c2e2f168b888ec73b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qdc3651dfa2959306fc8f","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":792,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T14:24:04.904Z","text":"［用户 zci***］  这个事情确实要用我判断的为准 哈哈哈哈","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc3651dfa2959306fc8f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q25f336177c6f81df666b","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":793,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-11-09T14:34:04.214Z","text":"这是啥内容呀，可以截图一下吗？我看到的是这样子的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4b68b5692e407eb35009","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25f336177c6f81df666b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b68b5692e407eb35009","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q7c2bf11736c9d387b94b","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":794,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T14:34:54.086Z","text":"哦 我加了限制","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c2bf11736c9d387b94b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qa1a432718eb1f6694e64","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":795,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T14:35:11.264Z","text":"额不是啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1a432718eb1f6694e64","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"qaf1cf6cf7970da9e920d","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":796,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T14:35:26.180Z","text":"这是大老王的讲郭文贵的视频","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf1cf6cf7970da9e920d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q44040099c974c91353c5","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":797,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-11-09T14:43:47.189Z","text":"回你一下这个","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9154d46dd0ad6ac6f8e3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44040099c974c91353c5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9154d46dd0ad6ac6f8e3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q4c4301981eee3d6b2a29","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":798,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-11-09T14:44:00.347Z","text":"短评先给结论：\n\n**就目前已知是“二巡已立案/登记，但未见明确的暂停令（stay）或公开指令”**这一态势，对 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舆论与跨程序外溢风险升高（破产/民事/监管可借语言）。\n\n记录效应/叙事成本（-2）：对程序瑕疵的敏感度提高，辩方任何小失误都更容易被放大。\n\n综上：“受害者扩权+公开”两项的负面权重最大；而“监督+放缓”的正面权重中等。没有“扩权+公开”的强指令时，利方略占优；一旦出现，就会反转为弊大于利。\n\n三种场景判读（给你一个清晰坐标）\n\n最可能/温和纠偏：二巡仅令地院“入册并说明/限题听证”。\n→ 估算：利60 / 弊40（小幅利好）。\n\n不发stay + 强调CVRA及时/被听取 + 要求删节公开。\n→ 估算：利35 / 弊65（明显不利，因“扩权+公开”权重大）。\n\n发出（即便是短期）stay + 要政府回应 + 仅最小必要公开。\n→ 估算：利70 / 弊30（对郭方最友好：停—窄—密）。\n\n现在就该做的“压权重”动作（把天平往利的一侧压）\n\n主张“程序小命令”而非实体改写：赞成 docket/说明/限题状态会；反对把CVRA扩成主导案卷管理。\n\n先给“删节公开”方案：提交你方删节版与“最小必要密封清单”，把公开控制在对郭方最安全的范围。\n\n保护令与in camera：请求 AEO/律师仅阅，强化第五/第六修正案与Rule 403/702 的可采性保护。\n\n把矛头导向流程：选择性引用765里指向检方/受托人流程问题的事实（非其立场），据此争取狭义取证/短期暂停。\n\n一句话收束\n\n当前态势（只到“立案/登记”）对郭方是“轻度利好”；真正决定权重的是二巡是否下达“扩张CVRA+要求公开且不发stay”的组合指令——若出现，弊重过利。你的策略目标就是把结果尽量锁在**“程序纠偏但不扩权、不泛公开、最好带短期stay”**的轨道上。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa140e30f559b1311caf5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000055"},{"id":"q4a4d9a378908168b0680","batch_id":"batch-000055","seq":800,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-09T14:44:34.002Z","text":"我建议 法律问题上 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