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一、联邦法官的宪法资格\n\n令人意外的是，美国《宪法》并没有对联邦法官设定任何明确的资格要求，无论是最高法院法官、上诉法院法官，还是地区法院法官。\n\n也就是说：\n\n✅ 没有年龄要求\n\n✅ 没有国籍年限要求\n\n✅ 没有法律或司法经验要求\n\n✅ 没有教育程度要求（甚至不要求法学学位）\n\n\n这是开国元勋有意留下的灵活空间，允许总统和参议院根据情况挑选合适人选。\n\n\n---\n\n🏛️ 二、任命程序（宪法第二条第二款）\n\n联邦法官由总统提名，经参议院**同意（advice and consent）**后正式任命。\n\n流程通常包括：\n\n1. 总统提名候选人；\n\n\n2. 由司法部和联邦调查局（FBI）进行背景调查；\n\n\n3. 参议院司法委员会举行听证会；\n\n\n4. 全体参议院投票确认。\n\n\n\n一旦确认，法官依据宪法第三条获得终身任期（“在良好行为期间任职”），除非辞职、退休或被弹劾。\n\n\n---\n\n📚 三、常见（但非强制）条件\n\n虽然法律上没有硬性规定，但几乎所有联邦法官都具备以下条件：\n\n常见条件    说明\n\n法学学位（J.D.）    几乎所有人都有，但并非宪法要求。\n律师资格    通常须在至少一个州拥有律师执照。\n法律或司法经验    多数人有法官、检察官、辩护律师或学者背景。\n职业声誉与品格    参议院会严审候选人的职业操守与司法气质。\n政治立场    总统一般提名与自己司法理念相近的人。\n\n\n\n---\n\n🧾 四、特定法院的额外规定\n\n对《宪法》第三条法院（最高法院、上诉法院、地区法院）而言，没有任何强制资格要求。\n但对某些**《宪法》第一条或第四条设立的法院**（如破产法院、治安法官、属地法院等），法律或地方法规可能规定：\n\n至少有 5–10 年法律执业经验；\n\n必须是美国公民；\n\n拥有律师执照并保持良好声誉。\n\n\n\n---\n\n🕊️ 五、任期与行为规范\n\n联邦法官任职条件为“在良好行为期间（during good Behaviour）”，即终身任期；\n\n仅能经国会**弹劾（impeachment）**罢免；\n\n无强制退休年龄，但许多法官在 65–70 岁左右选择“资深法官”（senior 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没有几个工作日了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85588c61e5805ed26b31","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q27b79ec55735777839ce","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":466,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-11-12T01:14:09.490Z","text":"等文贵出来再说吧。\n现在哪有料可爆呀。\n长岛搞的几个爆料，都是骗人的幌子。就算体制内的人有料，人家也不会拿着自己的生命冒险把料送给长岛，人家信七哥，凭什么要信长岛呀。\n315之后的头一两年我还真以为长岛有料呢。这帮骗子骗术真高。TMD","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc2ece34b16da39b2780a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27b79ec55735777839ce","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc2ece34b16da39b2780a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qe79f00e09fa03c4ab8c9","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":467,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2025-11-12T01:15:25.431Z","text":"我们每一个人都可提交这种啊，不过法庭也没回应","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe79f00e09fa03c4ab8c9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q36fc7c6c303226ae35d7","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":468,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-11-12T01:15:48.132Z","text":"我也看过一遍，但是现在又还给老师了。还是我初中高中学的东西扎实，至今不忘。😀","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd6e395d92c3d5731c32b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36fc7c6c303226ae35d7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6e395d92c3d5731c32b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qefd3972ddaddb8c152de","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":469,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T01:16:25.785Z","text":"现在自诉动议都不上传了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe79f00e09fa03c4ab8c9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qefd3972ddaddb8c152de","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe79f00e09fa03c4ab8c9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q70544900399f94246c05","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":470,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T01:17:33.645Z","text":"我就觉得奇怪，现在60天都过去了，怎么还有人跑到这个群来说自诉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70544900399f94246c05","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q9e30f8939a3413a8a88c","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":471,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T01:18:24.044Z","text":"现在谈钱要钱，太晚了吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e30f8939a3413a8a88c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q81ef097eff324d5f61b8","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":472,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T01:19:03.616Z","text":"CVRA好像还可以发自诉，但是也不能谈钱了吧，你们查查","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81ef097eff324d5f61b8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qacb429abb7d6a1b8449c","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":473,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2025-11-12T01:19:50.699Z","text":"domenico Tang 是谁？朱蓓蓓又是谁？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qacb429abb7d6a1b8449c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q821abd211e5b95f8ee9c","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":474,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-12T01:21:04.500Z","text":"11月4日与法庭接线员通话问为什么没入卷，答：我们收到大量文件，给法庭一个电子邮件（催问为什么没有入卷），他们会转给法官的chamber。\n\n所以现在要上诉二巡了，让二巡强制Torres 入卷","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q821abd211e5b95f8ee9c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qdd11a29d7857f0ac33e3","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":475,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-11-12T01:21:19.526Z","text":"我觉得朱贝贝跟你有点类似。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qacb429abb7d6a1b8449c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd11a29d7857f0ac33e3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qacb429abb7d6a1b8449c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q59f156519e3bbcf75531","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":476,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2025-11-12T01:26:40.927Z","text":"我的名字也没看到","edited":false,"reply_to":"q821abd211e5b95f8ee9c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59f156519e3bbcf75531","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q821abd211e5b95f8ee9c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q47f8321ee24d345cac8c","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":477,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-12T01:36:21.847Z","text":"法庭已经停止入卷了。所以现在就要上二巡 强制Torres入卷。我明天把文件准备好 发个模版给大家 看看 \n\n瑞恩小哥写得太专业 太多项 我知写 让Torres 入卷\n只要入卷， 自述里面的内容他们就就不可不面对了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q59f156519e3bbcf75531","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47f8321ee24d345cac8c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59f156519e3bbcf75531","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q40e0b736a8e0b12b2e8c","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":478,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T02:01:28.946Z","text":"🧾 一、法律依据不同\n\n21 U.S.C. § 853(n) 适用于第三方财产权利主张，也就是主张自己对被没收财产拥有合法所有权或受让权。\n\n政府发布没收公告后，第三方必须在 60 天内 提交 § 853(n) 申请。\n\n这 60 天期限具有管辖权性质，超过期限通常会丧失作为“财产所有人”要求返还的资格。\n\n\n18 U.S.C. § 3771（犯罪受害人权利法，Crime Victims’ Rights Act，简称 CVRA） 则是针对受害人权利，包括：\n\n被听取意见的权利；\n\n要求赔偿（restitution）的权利；\n\n与检察官沟通的权利；\n\n获得公平对待的权利。\n\nCVRA 并没有固定的 60 天时限。\n\n受害人权利是对“刑事案件”本身产生的，不受没收公告时间限制。\n\n\n\n\n---\n\n⚖️ 二、CVRA 与没收程序的实际关系\n\n即使在初步没收令（Preliminary Order of Forfeiture）生效、对被告定案之后，受害人仍可依据 CVRA 提交动议，例如：\n\n请求被认定为受害人；\n\n请求赔偿或返还（restitution / remission）；\n\n对没收财产的处理或分配方式提出异议；\n\n请求获知案件或返还程序的信息。\n\n\n但需要注意：CVRA 不能恢复已错过的 § 853(n) 期限。\n\nCVRA 不能用来主张财产所有权。\n\n但可以用来主张自己作为受害人，应在返还（remission）或恢复（restoration）程序中获得赔偿。\n\n\n\n\n---\n\n🕰️ 三、时间与案例说明\n\n在多起案件中，法院在 § 853(n) 期限届满后仍接受 CVRA 动议，特别是在受害人并不知晓权利或公告不明确的情况下。\n\n例如在 In re Wild, 994 F.3d 1244 (11th Cir. 2021) 一案中，法院分析了受害人在主要程序结束后仍可依据 CVRA 主张权利，因为 CVRA 权利附属于刑事案件，而非受没收程序时间限制。\n\n\n\n---\n\n✅ 四、结论\n\n60 天的期限只适用于 § 853(n) 下的财产所有权主张。\n\n它不限制 CVRA 动议的提出时间，只要：\n\n刑事案件仍有未完结事项（如量刑、没收财产分配、赔偿、返还等）；\n\n申请人能合理地表明自己是因该犯罪行为受到损害的受害人。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40e0b736a8e0b12b2e8c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q57672c2ebdca29c0d56c","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":479,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T02:03:21.992Z","text":"👆 CVRA可以继续发动议","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q57672c2ebdca29c0d56c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q2b81fca78c2249e7c747","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":480,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-11-12T02:06:53.814Z","text":"那个与检察官沟通的权利，可以要求检察官回复欺诈法庭的问题，检方不回复，是否可以申请强制令强制检察官回复？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b81fca78c2249e7c747","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qd2bd07a1c321c0cc1c83","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":481,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T02:09:19.926Z","text":"https://x.com/Haier918/status/1988428739156590945?s=20","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2bd07a1c321c0cc1c83","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qcc57195269173715c87b","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":482,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T02:12:35.184Z","text":"一、根据《犯罪受害人权利法》（CVRA, 18 U.S.C. § 3771）\n\nCVRA 确实赋予“犯罪受害人”一些实质性的程序参与权，包括：\n\n与检察官合理协商的权利（§ 3771(a)(5)）；\n\n被听取的权利（在认罪、量刑或释放听证时）；\n\n获得合理信息与回应的权利（如案件进展、被告处理结果等）。\n\n\n但是，这些权利是“程序性参与权”，不是“强制检察官必须回答每一个问题”的实质义务。也就是说：\n\n> 检察官有“合理沟通”和“考虑受害人意见”的义务，但不等于必须逐一书面回复或接受质询。\n\n\n\n\n---\n\n二、如果检察官长期不回应或拒绝沟通\n\n你可以依照 18 U.S.C. § 3771(d)(3) 向地方法院（本案是 SDNY）提出一项“强制执行受害人权利的动议（motion to enforce rights under CVRA）”。\n法院必须“迅速裁定（forthwith）”此类动议。\n\n如果法院拒绝，你有权在 14天内向第二巡回法院申请强制令（writ of mandamus），要求上级法院命令下级法院或检察官履行CVRA所规定的受害人权利。\n→ 这个程序就是 In re Wild（Epstein案） 和其他CVRA案件所使用的救济途径。\n\n\n---\n\n三、关于“强制检察官回复”的限度\n\n如果你的问题是：\n\n> “我能否要求法院发布强制令（mandamus）命令检察官回答欺诈法庭的问题？”\n\n\n\n要看你要求的内容是否属于“受害人权利”范围：\n\n✅ 若是涉及你的CVRA权利（如案件结果、赔偿、受害人认定等），可以要求法院命令检察官“提供合理说明”；\n\n❌ 若是涉及案件策略、证据、或内部决定（如是否起诉谁、起诉顺序等），则属于检察机关裁量权，法院通常不会强制检察官回答。\n\n\n换言之，你可以申请**“强制检察官履行沟通义务”，但不能要求法院命令他们“回答某个特定实质问题”**，除非该问题直接关系到你作为受害人的法定权利。\n\n\n---\n\n四、建议的程序路径\n\n1. 向检察官正式书面提出沟通请求，引用 18 U.S.C. § 3771(a)(5)；\n\n\n2. 如果未获回应，可向法院提交：\n\n“Motion to Enforce CVRA Rights and to Compel Government Response”；\n\n\n\n3. 若法院不裁定或拒绝裁定，可在14天内向第二巡回法院提交：\n\n“Petition for Writ of Mandamus under 18 U.S.C. § 3771(d)(3)”。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc57195269173715c87b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q6afa8f29f3fd15acd2a9","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":483,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-12T02:14:08.737Z","text":"受害人无限开火权","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6afa8f29f3fd15acd2a9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q07977f9d6256b23d3e2b","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":484,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T02:17:48.409Z","text":"https://x.com/Haier918/status/1988430927207309687?s=20","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07977f9d6256b23d3e2b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q4a2e4121390eadb400f7","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":485,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-11-12T02:26:49.577Z","text":"本案中受害者被当作给被告定罪的工具，没有得到尊重，可以用受害者权利的沟通权和受尊重权向检方和法院发难。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a2e4121390eadb400f7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q6e3fcba366d2f8d9758b","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":486,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T02:27:25.538Z","text":"受害者都被同案犯二次欺诈了，也没人管","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4a2e4121390eadb400f7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e3fcba366d2f8d9758b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a2e4121390eadb400f7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q5ad5a4ecdb47a68c6524","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":487,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T02:27:53.490Z","text":"同案犯不抓捕，受害者有人身安全吗，有财产安全吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ad5a4ecdb47a68c6524","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qd2ab7c72d27db2ebf41b","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":488,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-12T02:28:44.892Z","text":"好思路","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5ad5a4ecdb47a68c6524","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2ab7c72d27db2ebf41b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ad5a4ecdb47a68c6524","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q1b1efcfce71f2f4d267b","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":489,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-11-12T02:32:14.989Z","text":"文件233，检方说没收被告财产是为了还给受害者，然后文件750拒绝冻结由luc控制的那一部分任由luc挥霍。它们就是这么公然的自己吃自己拉的屎。玩弄这个案件的人，完全是故意要侮辱践踏美国的法治，感觉这才是它们的目的！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b1efcfce71f2f4d267b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q23c95d6662689ba3eab3","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":490,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-12T02:37:25.311Z","text":"你居然跟我得出了一样的结论","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1b1efcfce71f2f4d267b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23c95d6662689ba3eab3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b1efcfce71f2f4d267b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q3d1e67d367f485ab06ee","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":491,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-12T02:37:37.083Z","text":"我就感觉他们也没想政治迫害","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d1e67d367f485ab06ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qf0e9ec72c5a81293199a","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":492,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-12T02:38:21.331Z","text":"他们就是耍着玩 司法欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0e9ec72c5a81293199a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q7dc1b4e91a370eaf1969","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":493,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-12T02:40:16.502Z","text":"政治迫害 不是这么个玩法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7dc1b4e91a370eaf1969","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qddb702f443b81f865185","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":494,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-12T02:40:36.654Z","text":"他们感觉是利用老郭在耍美国司法玩","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qddb702f443b81f865185","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q8f0275332d7d4365c70f","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":495,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-11-12T02:40:40.461Z","text":"迫害被告以及其事业和践踏美国法治相辅相成，别说这招就是高，要践踏美国法治践踏得彻底，必须选足够干净的人，被告就是如此干净。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3d1e67d367f485ab06ee","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f0275332d7d4365c70f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d1e67d367f485ab06ee","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qe1a6e9ee67c60881fa80","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":496,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-12T02:41:15.540Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8f0275332d7d4365c70f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1a6e9ee67c60881fa80","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f0275332d7d4365c70f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q0ed94e936c6520949100","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":497,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-12T02:41:48.824Z","text":"他们笃定 你老郭不是想司法独立？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ed94e936c6520949100","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q7e8d48aac0baf3588c34","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":498,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-12T02:42:31.656Z","text":"那就设计 你的案子翻案 美国司法颜面扫地","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e8d48aac0baf3588c34","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qd3127f12674c88b43042","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":499,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-12T02:47:10.742Z","text":"所以老郭自己不好捅破这层纸","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3127f12674c88b43042","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qe5c5137a3572919589f6","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":500,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-12T02:47:21.020Z","text":"老郭不能亲自把美国司法的遮羞布撕下来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5c5137a3572919589f6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q1373bc9d53bd67a8e73d","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":501,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-12T02:47:33.082Z","text":"得我们的去撕","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1373bc9d53bd67a8e73d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q8b174e046c25a4108115","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":502,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-11-12T02:47:36.203Z","text":"文件11找检方登记过的受害者，要是能够有人站出来，也非常给力","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b174e046c25a4108115","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q7eecc4b81e7d12af30b5","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":503,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-11-12T02:48:28.880Z","text":"找检方登记过的人，不多，但是，也应该不会非常少。比如阿哲忽悠过去的人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7eecc4b81e7d12af30b5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q4eaaf85c8214191265cd","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":504,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-12T04:10:16.905Z","text":"真假郭😄","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf3c82162bb9ff7deb8aa","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4eaaf85c8214191265cd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q2eecbd1c3f770e11e5a6","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":505,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-12T04:32:53.382Z","text":"说实话 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非受害人status","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6afa8f29f3fd15acd2a9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77545c59f95eb66a1eb1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6afa8f29f3fd15acd2a9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q35a257f4221dbee9df15","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":508,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-12T04:44:59.956Z","text":"853不让上 也可以申请二巡强制令","edited":false,"reply_to":"q77545c59f95eb66a1eb1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35a257f4221dbee9df15","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77545c59f95eb66a1eb1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qe89aa498fc45d7db9ef0","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":509,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-11-12T04:48:37.245Z","text":"回本是各位的人生目标","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe89aa498fc45d7db9ef0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qc776a347490120d5fcb0","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":510,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-12T04:55:05.257Z","text":"您太小看跟随爆料革命 灭共匪的战友了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe89aa498fc45d7db9ef0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc776a347490120d5fcb0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe89aa498fc45d7db9ef0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qa1ce6c23f9b1bd7ca80a","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":511,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-11-12T04:56:30.811Z","text":"回本我能找老娘们啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1ce6c23f9b1bd7ca80a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q59af6ed30349f04b56a2","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":512,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-12T04:57:23.422Z","text":"螺丝赢了 别忘了穆斯林那72个什么女， 都是您的😂😂😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa1ce6c23f9b1bd7ca80a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59af6ed30349f04b56a2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1ce6c23f9b1bd7ca80a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qbfac584042142e837648","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":513,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-11-12T05:06:10.712Z","text":"回本总比没回本好啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa1ce6c23f9b1bd7ca80a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbfac584042142e837648","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1ce6c23f9b1bd7ca80a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qcb17c38754d3e0533d4a","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":514,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-11-12T05:14:00.878Z","text":"没有任何兴趣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q59af6ed30349f04b56a2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb17c38754d3e0533d4a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59af6ed30349f04b56a2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q9dfd982acbcb5e5f8889","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":515,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-11-12T05:44:48.962Z","text":"我不需要回本。我要证明我的价值。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbfac584042142e837648","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9dfd982acbcb5e5f8889","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbfac584042142e837648","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q8833dc00adb3eb64900a","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":516,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-11-12T05:47:59.101Z","text":"［用户 xin***］ 你喊着要回本，其实你内心可能是想郭文贵赶快牢底坐穿，退钱回本。如果郭文贵大摇大摆出来，你根本就不会想回本，你肯定想怎么发财","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8833dc00adb3eb64900a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q59817cd26987c27d8e39","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":517,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-11-12T06:02:48.670Z","text":"出来还能发财啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59817cd26987c27d8e39","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q4c800fcf49e1a9e85864","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":518,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-12T06:32:19.092Z","text":"我已经一本万利了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe89aa498fc45d7db9ef0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c800fcf49e1a9e85864","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe89aa498fc45d7db9ef0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q91c5947e991631b563ec","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":519,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-12T06:45:12.867Z","text":"共产主义的对美国的洗脑已经见效果了，从学校开始，[屏蔽词]遍地走","edited":true,"reply_to":"qf3a937c96bce7842aa17","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91c5947e991631b563ec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q191449b250581b9f35b6","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":520,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-12T06:46:13.093Z","text":"所以，本质上法官就是总统的刀把子，跟中国本质上一样的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q287b5c94483bc981236d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q191449b250581b9f35b6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q287b5c94483bc981236d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qae8a672c34504bc8ddde","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":521,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-12T06:46:48.115Z","text":"别忘了灭白计划","edited":false,"reply_to":"q04c340d658eac0d8d7f9","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae8a672c34504bc8ddde","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q3d402ddfd6c33d364a7b","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":522,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-11-12T06:57:42.167Z","text":"不是川普的刀把子啊！一堆法官反川普","edited":false,"reply_to":"q191449b250581b9f35b6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d402ddfd6c33d364a7b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q191449b250581b9f35b6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qc08be77037a066b5ea8e","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":523,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-12T07:11:35.193Z","text":"你现在成的事是推动美国司法改革的发起人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0ca0224cc69aa44c5a01","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc08be77037a066b5ea8e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q66aa1f593ec44bd391d7","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":524,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-11-12T11:26:14.556Z","text":"［用户 jes***］ 欢迎你来交流交流郭文贵刑事案件。这里百分之百言论自由畅所欲言。也欢迎你介绍你的小伙伴来交流，这里有你在新老联盟羊帮质疑帮绝对不会得到的言论自由","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66aa1f593ec44bd391d7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qd1b8c38820823e1a86a7","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":525,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T11:54:23.980Z","text":"你对青藤不满，可以采取司法手段，不要鼓吹暴力。😆","edited":false,"reply_to":"q18961bece095db4251e6","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1b8c38820823e1a86a7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q87695762a38554392afe","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":526,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T11:55:18.554Z","text":"你对任何人不满，都可以采取司法手段😆","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5aaaca3dab2d2f3f0837","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87695762a38554392afe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q6641d6dbcc288c0bc602","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":527,"speaker":"jes***","date":"2025-11-12T11:57:12.979Z","text":"司法手段对他们管用吗？他们不一样在外面该割的割，在外面吃香的喝辣的等他们七哥回家。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6641d6dbcc288c0bc602","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qc3308a8a7a0d0f7f9cf2","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":528,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T11:58:55.143Z","text":"你试了吗？不试怎么知道没用？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6641d6dbcc288c0bc602","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc3308a8a7a0d0f7f9cf2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6641d6dbcc288c0bc602","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q864fe3f165c28cf13f6a","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":529,"speaker":"jes***","date":"2025-11-12T11:59:24.688Z","text":"试过的人还少了吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc3308a8a7a0d0f7f9cf2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q864fe3f165c28cf13f6a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc3308a8a7a0d0f7f9cf2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q08549896724b6e91b1ee","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":530,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T11:59:30.712Z","text":"这群正好是谈自诉的，你先学习一下怎么采取司法手段","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08549896724b6e91b1ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q34632d541e9a655edb86","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":531,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T11:59:45.308Z","text":"现在就是很少啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q864fe3f165c28cf13f6a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q34632d541e9a655edb86","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q864fe3f165c28cf13f6a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q601fad4a30cfb2211874","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":532,"speaker":"jes***","date":"2025-11-12T12:02:49.609Z","text":"你七哥就是这样教你的？随便打听别人的信息？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa956fbc55eb826f75091","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q601fad4a30cfb2211874","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q609ed735bcb1d69f936c","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":533,"speaker":"jes***","date":"2025-11-12T12:07:21.272Z","text":"你有这点时间，你还是去找个工作，把喜币和法治基金被骗的钱先赚回来吧。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q609ed735bcb1d69f936c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qc27cc2657f321d169d36","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":534,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T13:14:53.776Z","text":"法官为什么让总统提名，而不是司法界人士推荐产生？\n\n🏛️ 一、宪法设计与三权分立\n\n根据《美国宪法》第二条第二款，联邦法官（包括最高法院大法官）是：\n\n> “由总统提名，经参议院的建议与同意后任命。”\n\n\n\n这种设计确保了两个经选举产生的分支——总统与参议院——共同参与法官的任命过程。其目的包括：\n\n赋予总统行政权来挑选候选人；\n\n让代表各州与人民的参议院行使审查与确认的权力；\n\n防止司法系统成为一个自我繁殖的封闭集团，即法官由法官自己选出，而不受任何民主监督。\n\n\n\n---\n\n⚖️ 二、在独立与问责之间的平衡\n\n法官一旦被任命，享有“行为良好期间任职”的终身任期，以保障他们免受政治压力的影响。\n但任命过程本身与民主制度挂钩，确保了那些解释法律的人，其来源最终可追溯到由人民选出的代表。\n\n如果法官完全由法律界人士选出，虽然可以提高专业性和业内认可度，但会出现以下问题：\n\n法官体系将缺乏民主问责性；\n\n“法律精英”不是选举产生的代表，可能形成自我封闭的特权阶层；\n\n宪法制定者担心这样的司法体系会变得脱离公众、追求自身利益或违背宪政结构。\n\n\n\n---\n\n⚙️ 三、为什么不让律师来选法官？\n\n这个想法在历史上确实被讨论过，但最终被否定，原因包括：\n\n它可能导致权力集中在法律圈子或律师协会内部；\n\n它可能破坏制衡体系，因为法官将对同僚而非宪法程序负责；\n\n它会削弱公众或民选官员对法院思想方向的影响力（例如在“原意主义”与“进步解释”之间的取向）。\n\n\n\n---\n\n🌍 四、与其他国家的对比\n\n在许多其他国家：\n\n法官是由司法委员会或评选委员会（通常由法律界人士主导）选出的；\n\n这些制度在减少政治干预的同时，往往牺牲了民主问责性。\n\n\n而美国制度的特点是：\n\n在任命前阶段引入政治监督（总统提名 + 参议院确认）；\n\n在任命后阶段保障司法独立（终身任期，不受行政干预）。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc27cc2657f321d169d36","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qeeb706dd5a32d8d6d847","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":535,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T13:16:36.620Z","text":"😆 所以法官任命的时候是代表“人民”的意志的，任命完之后，人民就没有话语权了？😆","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeeb706dd5a32d8d6d847","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qced2187fdf3f608a1571","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":536,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-12T14:08:30.643Z","text":"司法本来就是掌权者的武器，它没必要自我繁殖，掌权者也不允许它失控，美国的这些规定其实是驴粪蛋子表面光","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc27cc2657f321d169d36","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qced2187fdf3f608a1571","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc27cc2657f321d169d36","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q0f467b5d79406514fde6","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":537,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T14:20:44.759Z","text":"如果有参议院投票，可以说任命的时候是代表人民的意志吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"qced2187fdf3f608a1571","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f467b5d79406514fde6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qced2187fdf3f608a1571","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q458b339a10fda2517812","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":538,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T14:21:27.200Z","text":"但是任命完了以后，就和政党无关了，那不还是法律界自我繁殖吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q458b339a10fda2517812","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qe97cabb62572103dfeb5","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":539,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-12T14:25:55.310Z","text":"参议院本身就已经脱离民众了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0f467b5d79406514fde6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe97cabb62572103dfeb5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f467b5d79406514fde6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q874ff0afe412dad85ea8","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":540,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-12T14:26:23.164Z","text":"都是政治精英","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q874ff0afe412dad85ea8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q76d4586463fb01dd74de","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":541,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T14:28:08.527Z","text":"这没办法啊，至少是民众选出来的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe97cabb62572103dfeb5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76d4586463fb01dd74de","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe97cabb62572103dfeb5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q2c7785fc1304f10ea131","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":542,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T14:45:03.405Z","text":"有一点，参议院可以弹劾法官","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe97cabb62572103dfeb5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c7785fc1304f10ea131","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe97cabb62572103dfeb5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q1f4e2dda2534609b90d2","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":543,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T14:45:14.674Z","text":"但你要有足够的证据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f4e2dda2534609b90d2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qafd7e58248725e09da73","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":544,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-12T15:06:54.029Z","text":"问题是谁能推动参议院呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2c7785fc1304f10ea131","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qafd7e58248725e09da73","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c7785fc1304f10ea131","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q094e0b3dfebb82885a51","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":545,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-12T15:06:59.112Z","text":"老百姓？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q094e0b3dfebb82885a51","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qeba4032b11a9fec87277","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":546,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T15:07:41.754Z","text":"参议员任期为六年，每两年改选三分之一的席","edited":false,"reply_to":"qafd7e58248725e09da73","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeba4032b11a9fec87277","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qafd7e58248725e09da73","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q98c185f40b99c471aaf4","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":547,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T15:10:05.774Z","text":"由选民直选，但参议员不仅要对选民负责，还要对州负责，要保障选民和州的双重利益。是投票给他的选民和全州人民的共同利益代表","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q98c185f40b99c471aaf4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q40c269bdb5150a6ecf87","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":548,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-12T15:12:06.162Z","text":"所以老郭的事儿跟美国人关系不大，起码到不了能惊动参议院院的程度","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40c269bdb5150a6ecf87","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q1d2b243d4835d35edf03","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":549,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T15:12:30.522Z","text":"美国人根本不认识他","edited":false,"reply_to":"q40c269bdb5150a6ecf87","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d2b243d4835d35edf03","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40c269bdb5150a6ecf87","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q93e97e390b006af66c20","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":550,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T15:12:41.959Z","text":"但是高层应该都知道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93e97e390b006af66c20","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q8c3e880dadf21f8bb757","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":551,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T15:13:08.611Z","text":"看war room的美国人应该知道他","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c3e880dadf21f8bb757","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qf6d0862245f28589d0c5","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":552,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-12T15:13:19.093Z","text":"人家三权分立，高层知道又如何","edited":false,"reply_to":"q93e97e390b006af66c20","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6d0862245f28589d0c5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93e97e390b006af66c20","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q1808ea691da11f4652dc","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":553,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T15:13:53.723Z","text":"对啊，目前不可能指望国会推动","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf6d0862245f28589d0c5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1808ea691da11f4652dc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6d0862245f28589d0c5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qd4dd874ffe5a7d24daf7","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":554,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T15:14:14.055Z","text":"因为郭案没有美国民意支持","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4dd874ffe5a7d24daf7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q26d8fcdd37d5afb716d8","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":555,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T15:15:31.732Z","text":"川普也不可能赦免他","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26d8fcdd37d5afb716d8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qd318cf5495c73114ede4","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":556,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-12T15:15:36.244Z","text":"这个🐷贝贝反班农反川普，她葫芦里卖的什么药\n\nhttps://x.com/weiwei603438482/status/1988391609705394400?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd318cf5495c73114ede4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q4467a409ec2ea6186938","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":557,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T15:15:37.950Z","text":"因为没有民意支持","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4467a409ec2ea6186938","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qc43f5e1b0606310a6f14","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":558,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-12T15:17:13.356Z","text":"这个案子就是中共在借美国的手办案","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd4dd874ffe5a7d24daf7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc43f5e1b0606310a6f14","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4dd874ffe5a7d24daf7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qf10938d680cb7ad26de5","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":559,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T15:19:02.183Z","text":"我觉得🐷 贝贝和阿哲他们很像","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd318cf5495c73114ede4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf10938d680cb7ad26de5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd318cf5495c73114ede4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qc2f75a7aa894908b76b3","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":560,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-12T15:20:01.836Z","text":"这个阿哲是不是故意配合灭爆演戏的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc2f75a7aa894908b76b3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q7652115d58ebc26743f1","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":561,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T15:20:11.423Z","text":"不知道","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc2f75a7aa894908b76b3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7652115d58ebc26743f1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc2f75a7aa894908b76b3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q17a2022f205a361cb09c","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":562,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T15:20:27.400Z","text":"🐷 贝贝和阿哲他们属于比较高级的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17a2022f205a361cb09c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q71ea9f0756cb779fd5ea","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":563,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-11-12T15:20:57.700Z","text":"［用户 jes***］ 打听一下你的隐私，你爱你七哥相信你七哥啊？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71ea9f0756cb779fd5ea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q44154e66eb4118fb3b67","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":564,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2025-11-12T15:58:58.770Z","text":"是呀，那我们没有受害人权利了吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q77545c59f95eb66a1eb1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44154e66eb4118fb3b67","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77545c59f95eb66a1eb1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qd74c083b5f2c90b1bd7f","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":565,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-12T16:00:15.158Z","text":"不是的。引用的条款不一样。我今天就会发一个二巡模版出来 大家参考","edited":false,"reply_to":"q44154e66eb4118fb3b67","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd74c083b5f2c90b1bd7f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44154e66eb4118fb3b67","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qaea7947f75061898e6a3","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":566,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2025-11-12T16:11:33.597Z","text":"好的谢谢，你的名字被法院收录了吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd74c083b5f2c90b1bd7f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaea7947f75061898e6a3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd74c083b5f2c90b1bd7f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q00ea8de774f7a9afec2f","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":567,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2025-11-12T16:17:33.048Z","text":"模版？这是要共谋啊…","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd74c083b5f2c90b1bd7f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00ea8de774f7a9afec2f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd74c083b5f2c90b1bd7f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q7440610f7d9de2184101","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":568,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-12T16:28:57.203Z","text":"没看到我的名字","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaea7947f75061898e6a3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7440610f7d9de2184101","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaea7947f75061898e6a3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q0b93afeadf6c7e6383ce","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":569,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-12T16:31:26.495Z","text":"又吓唬人了？ 明白参考这个词吗？ 共谋又咋地？ 你去告我。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q00ea8de774f7a9afec2f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b93afeadf6c7e6383ce","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00ea8de774f7a9afec2f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qd5ed24296850096f87c5","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":570,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-12T16:38:48.767Z","text":"上面的是我写的给二巡的模版 供参考。 我的自述是引用的853n， non-CVRA (非被告的受害人）所以这个二巡的 文件，只是要求入卷 、 保护自述人与被律师代表的一样的权利 大家看看 根据自己的情况写","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5ed24296850096f87c5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q2e944610509fc9a41af2","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":571,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-12T18:06:39.145Z","text":"共个头啊，谁都不认识谁","edited":false,"reply_to":"q00ea8de774f7a9afec2f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e944610509fc9a41af2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00ea8de774f7a9afec2f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qd297042bf72b7a52f302","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":572,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-12T18:21:03.890Z","text":"受害人动议没有时间限制的，你先动议过去再说，反正他们也不理","edited":false,"reply_to":"q44154e66eb4118fb3b67","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd297042bf72b7a52f302","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44154e66eb4118fb3b67","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qffd72dc205db0aaf6142","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":573,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T20:25:36.636Z","text":"二巡动议要写清： 你有什么权利，你需要地区法院怎么做，还要说明为什么你没有别的办法了，只能申请强制令，等等。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qffd72dc205db0aaf6142","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qec4dfb814cb14c643a09","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":574,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T20:26:17.808Z","text":"https://x.com/Haier918/status/1983228008371556790?s=20","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec4dfb814cb14c643a09","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qcaecdc11e1cb616ae5ea","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":575,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-12T20:27:03.530Z","text":"👆 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水平真的很高","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8379fb693c0ac01623db","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19b5e8aabbfb1f2ba01c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8379fb693c0ac01623db","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q18316c37a0c6f977264b","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":582,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2025-11-13T00:03:55.422Z","text":"能不能要求法官回避啊？这个才有用","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd5ed24296850096f87c5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18316c37a0c6f977264b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5ed24296850096f87c5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q18bd45eb431232eb7a72","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":583,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2025-11-13T00:06:14.965Z","text":"就是战友有个房车营地都被拿来做文章？还硬扯上七哥？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1750cbee07445dcba9e3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18bd45eb431232eb7a72","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1750cbee07445dcba9e3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q36cfb3fff056f100cf53","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":584,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-13T00:15:38.873Z","text":"谁知道，反正nfsc什么人都有，但是出了事儿不能都算在郭头上吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q18bd45eb431232eb7a72","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36cfb3fff056f100cf53","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18bd45eb431232eb7a72","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q051400d31e62fa5e5c86","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":585,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-13T00:30:29.039Z","text":"写什么能够把事实禀上都可以","edited":false,"reply_to":"q18316c37a0c6f977264b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q051400d31e62fa5e5c86","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18316c37a0c6f977264b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qdd421576cd12ce319bb6","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":586,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-13T00:30:31.024Z","text":"更[屏蔽词]的青藤邪教帮造谣报道说的间谍是黄河边","edited":true,"reply_to":"q18bd45eb431232eb7a72","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd421576cd12ce319bb6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18bd45eb431232eb7a72","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qac19bb91b13fd5c56bf4","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":587,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2025-11-13T00:31:19.273Z","text":"在X上的一些帖子倒是没提到七哥或NFSC","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qac19bb91b13fd5c56bf4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q59143acbbc7fb7a4ceb9","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":588,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-13T00:35:13.520Z","text":"铺天盖地的 还有郭先生图片。这一波来斯墟梦","edited":false,"reply_to":"qac19bb91b13fd5c56bf4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59143acbbc7fb7a4ceb9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qac19bb91b13fd5c56bf4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q04a5add8ca477ed1e6bf","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":589,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-13T01:37:51.965Z","text":"关于自述和后续行动；\n9月份以后在郭先生案件的法庭上做了自述的文件，几乎都没有被入卷。按照法律，这是不正常的。但这只是这个案件过程中种种不公、非法行为的一个缩影。做了自述没被入卷，现在的办法就是花600美元（可以申请免费如果经济困难），上述到二巡法庭，强制Torres 法官入卷。如果上了二巡的人数众多，二巡会非常重视，有没有可能要Torres回避郭先生这个案件？有没有可能取消量刑？有没有可能撤案？皆有可能！\n\n上二巡的意义在于： 给Torres法庭的非法行为、不公留下记录。给已经上了二巡的人助力，也对郭先生案件翻案有影响积极。更是给自己这个第三方争取权益。\n\n上二巡的文件英文名称：\nWrit of Mandamus \n可以用AI， 参照这个👇写；经济困难的可以申请免费的填Form 4：\nMandamus-Procedendo_01-2024Packet_-1.pdf - Google Drive\n\n法庭文件，包括已经入卷了的文件765/也上了二巡的可以在这里找到：\nUnited States v. GUO, 1:23-cr-00118 – CourtListener.com\n\n\n提交法庭文件需要注意事项：\n1） 要求隐私，可以提交两个版本，其中一个版本把个人/财务信息图黑\n2） 附件应该包括已经提交的自述的影印件及邮寄/电邮证明\n3） 别忘了签名\n4） 11月、12月、1月假日众多，大家要抓紧时间提交了， 创造一个我们想月的结果的好环境\n\n\n文件邮寄地址：\n1.The Honorable Analisa Torres, SDNY District Court \n500 Pearl Street\nNew York, NY 10007-1312\n\n2. Ryan Finkel, Assistant US Attorney\nUS Attorney's Office SDNY\nOne Saint Andrew's Plaza\nNew York, NY 10007\n\n3.Clerk of the Court \nUS Court of Appeals/2nd Circuit \nThurgood Marshal US Court\n40 Foley Square\nNew York, NY 10007","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q04a5add8ca477ed1e6bf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qd526724cc73fb1f7d85c","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":590,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-11-13T01:45:51.704Z","text":"https://x.com/CaoChangqing/status/1988773053271273565?s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd526724cc73fb1f7d85c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q880e56e3b984a43c40f8","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":591,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-13T02:41:36.377Z","text":"机器人说，受害者动议地方法院不给docket绝对是可以去二巡立案的，二巡如果不给立案就是违反受害者权利法案。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q880e56e3b984a43c40f8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q7fb13585d3900db46e6e","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":592,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-13T02:42:40.713Z","text":"853n也是，但是受害者的权利绝对不可以侵犯","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fb13585d3900db46e6e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q683a383ed7b261618fef","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":593,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-13T02:43:22.365Z","text":"有没有律师都一样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q683a383ed7b261618fef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q316b7276671e06ee22ef","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":594,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-13T02:43:44.425Z","text":"如果二巡不给立案，可以找律师重发","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q316b7276671e06ee22ef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qef544732d7585b6a3cd1","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":595,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-13T03:53:02.342Z","text":"瑞恩小哥关于二巡郭先生律师就可以动的 说法非常到位 - 目前检方肯定不会撤案， 想看Torres1/20日如何判决，Torres 心里不想判，但是她没有选择， 所以就在等1/20日，也在看能有什么台阶下， 郭先生律师方也在等时机\n\n大的环境是奥巴马 garland wray， Lisa Monaco 等都会被指控（好像是佛罗里达1/12日）， Torres 她想不想往火坑里跳？ 咱不知道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef544732d7585b6a3cd1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q6cfb1e44cda8891844a5","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":596,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-13T03:53:58.571Z","text":"我们的目标是量刑前一剑封喉","edited":false,"reply_to":"qef544732d7585b6a3cd1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6cfb1e44cda8891844a5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef544732d7585b6a3cd1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q7eb12cbe620eb96d3358","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":597,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-13T03:54:04.402Z","text":"量刑后已经随便整了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7eb12cbe620eb96d3358","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q03c2689ec59b0e6a598d","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":598,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-13T03:54:14.802Z","text":"量刑前 挑战一下极限","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q03c2689ec59b0e6a598d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"q09c31e5f2665232f4782","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":599,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-13T03:54:31.578Z","text":"难度很大 挑战很刺激 😁","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q09c31e5f2665232f4782","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"},{"id":"qe84810b64a06cc8dc928","batch_id":"batch-000056","seq":600,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-13T03:54:37.912Z","text":"而且是没有律师的情况下哦","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe84810b64a06cc8dc928","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000056"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000055","next_batch_id":"batch-000057"}