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直接卖 绿共 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Feb. 9, 2022)\"这个案件是根本不让你提虚假债权的事。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4fe4de8f4a442dac6935","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"qecf6800d85ea987d88ec","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":429,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T08:05:02.400Z","text":"禁制令是有的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4fe4de8f4a442dac6935","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qecf6800d85ea987d88ec","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4fe4de8f4a442dac6935","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q6ddcecf02e30a309f0ee","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":430,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T08:05:22.404Z","text":"但其实所有的矛盾都集中在虚假债券","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ddcecf02e30a309f0ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"qab0ad71a15433411d89b","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":431,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T08:05:43.973Z","text":"检方硬说鼓动债权人登记是违反禁止令","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab0ad71a15433411d89b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q955d6d34ca0e45aa5c6d","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":432,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T08:07:05.811Z","text":"luc曾经发动议要把鼓动债权人登记 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但你用的这个东西 本来就有重大布雷迪违规","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q991dcccee848a69d6690","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"qe4a63fe4e8fe96723db4","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":438,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T08:08:21.895Z","text":"违规一次够了 还违规上瘾","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe4a63fe4e8fe96723db4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q8c6f1088888ee19595b7","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":439,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T08:08:37.293Z","text":"连续骗七八个法官","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c6f1088888ee19595b7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q02f6cc51eafc9f7a1230","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":440,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T08:08:47.151Z","text":"硬是发展成为司法欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02f6cc51eafc9f7a1230","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"qf8c209dfbb7eb0d4940f","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":441,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T08:08:57.037Z","text":"我他妈真的醉了 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核心就在破产案的虚假债权","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf90b031fd8276f11226","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q239b369011c48aeb0bef","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":452,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T08:20:03.183Z","text":"这东西就是他们司法欺诈的核心","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q239b369011c48aeb0bef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q970a445c3b6225d863d2","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":453,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T08:20:28.188Z","text":"击穿这个 整个案子就没有根基了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q970a445c3b6225d863d2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q04c8a77fcc05f5b4bb27","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":454,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T08:31:18.983Z","text":"［用户 chu***］  我怎么觉得刑事案和luc不是一伙的 他俩是抢钱关系","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q04c8a77fcc05f5b4bb27","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q4b81261064f243fa6a4c","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":455,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-11-18T08:34:05.708Z","text":"文件1347 (2023年1月19日): 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被告真的欠钱，债权人真的存在？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe88b1e34e3cdcf787f8f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q535de819ca7a7db106a9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe88b1e34e3cdcf787f8f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"qec7a26f9317ac351cc3c","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":463,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-11-18T11:45:29.122Z","text":"把破产法院驳回被告反对虚假债权结合起来。这个荒唐案件的起源就是虚假债权。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q535de819ca7a7db106a9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec7a26f9317ac351cc3c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q535de819ca7a7db106a9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"qbd8efba138f1d97eaa4a","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":464,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-11-18T11:46:07.567Z","text":"天天赢麻 怎么一点动静都没","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbd8efba138f1d97eaa4a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"qbe820a26230e7742450e","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":465,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-18T11:46:34.553Z","text":"这就是检方欺诈法庭的证据","edited":false,"reply_to":"q535de819ca7a7db106a9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe820a26230e7742450e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q535de819ca7a7db106a9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q176d1a91c7b0b25b8810","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":466,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-11-18T11:56:44.463Z","text":"检方明知luc接受虚假债权，当受托人违反诚信义务，其所有主张都不具可采性，但检方依然大量的引入luc的主张进入刑事法庭。这个主张可以继续加大检方欺诈法庭的恶劣程度。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q176d1a91c7b0b25b8810","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"qb93c2d58aa213ecd580e","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":467,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-18T12:01:47.809Z","text":"”Bankruptcy 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律师费不就自然高了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7b887d8027a5ba2e058","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"qb900e751700c4689778a","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":487,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T14:59:00.059Z","text":"最简单的逻辑 何来的干扰破产程序","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb900e751700c4689778a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q0cd78097f1bb3560f585","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":488,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T15:00:19.813Z","text":"刑事案就是强行自己解释破产庭的这些内容","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0cd78097f1bb3560f585","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"qf99fde4f04a8b1876345","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":489,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T15:00:36.190Z","text":"强行解释伴随布雷迪违规","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf99fde4f04a8b1876345","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"qa74c386ab00493427819","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":490,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T15:02:02.720Z","text":"luc 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郭鼓动登记 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对的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qea7d449780344b99fbd2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e68b7240abcd4da3532","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea7d449780344b99fbd2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q89fbb397b146caa33e1e","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":522,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T15:52:51.489Z","text":"检方说的false 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这个核心问题","edited":false,"reply_to":"q54911e2f32aa9d2b7bb5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ffb19cf41865ba92e33","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54911e2f32aa9d2b7bb5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"qc26bccf44ffb1bc9fa18","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":530,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T15:55:23.837Z","text":"你看到曼宁 自始至终 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claim是不是非法😄","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97a53393e78ad1832503","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"qf6f979be2452932b4a22","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":543,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-18T16:02:51.221Z","text":"对啊，但是郭的前半句被删除了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaf2a35788e216b2418a9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6f979be2452932b4a22","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf2a35788e216b2418a9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"qdb6c0ef37155f60bf0b2","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":544,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-18T16:03:04.716Z","text":"公族Julia和后面那些人是一个性质","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb6c0ef37155f60bf0b2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q689d1f002a5127527a30","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":545,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T16:03:08.096Z","text":"恩","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q689d1f002a5127527a30","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q627c73a858c38f6adc8d","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":546,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-18T16:03:19.274Z","text":"所以整个债权人登记都有问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q627c73a858c38f6adc8d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"qdcc8d8d3deb7234e354f","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":547,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T16:03:35.667Z","text":"从事实上说 肯定都有问题","edited":false,"reply_to":"q627c73a858c38f6adc8d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdcc8d8d3deb7234e354f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q627c73a858c38f6adc8d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q2d18303f438b90780f6f","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":548,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2025-11-18T17:18:54.258Z","text":"朱莉亚的登记债权好像是900多万，很多都不是它名下汇的，金额还很大，老郭反对它的动议说的更有力","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d18303f438b90780f6f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q269c0bdedd885351edf4","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":549,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2025-11-18T17:20:44.785Z","text":"拱卒登记的金额不高，但是德语的，好像就一张汇款单。老郭反驳仅凭着些这无法证明它的债权关系。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q269c0bdedd885351edf4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"qfd5d37d2378bc93955d3","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":550,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T17:21:46.588Z","text":"老郭在鼓动登记之前的一个视频里说 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合作颇深","edited":false,"reply_to":"q269c0bdedd885351edf4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd5d37d2378bc93955d3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q269c0bdedd885351edf4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"qc6df152a4fe38bd5a7c6","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":551,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T17:21:56.106Z","text":"我写在报告了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6df152a4fe38bd5a7c6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"qae933b31bed66124835a","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":552,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T17:22:15.014Z","text":"检方就是布雷迪重大违规","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae933b31bed66124835a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q6296a96fcfee15b3de81","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":553,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2025-11-18T17:24:20.379Z","text":"记得，老郭说，让路壳交代一下，过河的卒子咋找到你的？你们都聊了啥？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfd5d37d2378bc93955d3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6296a96fcfee15b3de81","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd5d37d2378bc93955d3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"qc6793b0fbaadee2d1a2a","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":554,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T17:24:28.946Z","text":"对的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6296a96fcfee15b3de81","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6793b0fbaadee2d1a2a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6296a96fcfee15b3de81","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q93d497889793ad83de76","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":555,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T17:24:52.200Z","text":"破产案一大堆问题 检方就尼玛拿来瞎几把指控","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93d497889793ad83de76","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"qef586960e4fc1ecff624","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":556,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2025-11-18T17:24:52.611Z","text":"但这孙子不来作证🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef586960e4fc1ecff624","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q55506b9b1ac4c95333aa","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":557,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T17:25:14.830Z","text":"他侄子来了😄","edited":false,"reply_to":"qef586960e4fc1ecff624","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55506b9b1ac4c95333aa","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef586960e4fc1ecff624","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q9c74ff6af1ddd51bee85","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":558,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2025-11-18T17:33:05.998Z","text":"更准确的说法是不是：庭上除了老郭，其他妖魔鬼怪都坚决阻止路壳来作证？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qef586960e4fc1ecff624","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c74ff6af1ddd51bee85","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef586960e4fc1ecff624","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q6743472913737a7be1d6","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":559,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-18T17:56:16.390Z","text":"受害人还可以继续发动议打检方","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6743472913737a7be1d6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q3e9e86f4147590535821","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":560,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-18T17:57:48.779Z","text":"反正法院没说停止","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e9e86f4147590535821","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q5c26fbd1cced10197aa6","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":561,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-18T22:17:36.191Z","text":"屁股决定脑袋，你不缺钱，所以名更重要，而对我来说钱远比名重要，我先要活下去","edited":false,"reply_to":"q008657bd29f556010a76","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c26fbd1cced10197aa6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q53d46ae9ec76ad17f5ea","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":562,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-18T22:22:39.848Z","text":"老郭出来赶紧把烂摊子收拾利索了，带我们赚钱，最不济就把钱退回来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53d46ae9ec76ad17f5ea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"qbd6ec9a5c01c1d89b2b5","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":563,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-18T22:39:42.234Z","text":"光希望屁用不顶，你写动议了吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4b4806099656526620fd","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbd6ec9a5c01c1d89b2b5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"qf03630b90fc97770fb79","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":564,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-11-18T22:41:15.281Z","text":"可以，用受害者身份","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf03630b90fc97770fb79","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q73d4b19bca01c215b7c3","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":565,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-18T23:08:05.274Z","text":"这个案子结束以后就没有以后了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5fdeae2afbd112ab5862","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73d4b19bca01c215b7c3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q25d474d572fc17104285","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":566,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-18T23:09:38.447Z","text":"这个案子就是爆料革命的高潮😆","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25d474d572fc17104285","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"qc40740695e7031247802","batch_id":"batch-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判五十年 添乱就算加到100年 有啥区别","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9f20fa34b70c691e240e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf75290bb16c81469cc9b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f20fa34b70c691e240e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"qa46aa9865f92cbee4ce2","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":577,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-11-18T23:26:29.364Z","text":"他们行为不正常。正常来说，也要看看咱们具体是怎么添乱的吧，结果特么一个个连进个群都不敢，还不许其他战友进。\n所以他们实际心里清楚得很。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf75290bb16c81469cc9b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa46aa9865f92cbee4ce2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf75290bb16c81469cc9b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q8a85d7933cec9864e60e","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":578,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T23:26:40.917Z","text":"哈哈 是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa46aa9865f92cbee4ce2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a85d7933cec9864e60e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa46aa9865f92cbee4ce2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"qf5fc8f39d9cdee870d60","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":579,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-11-18T23:28:16.081Z","text":"农场负责投资的高层，全部消失。这我已经在自诉文件里提了。虽然还没被上传。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7fb79b5e87485ec2ee32","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5fc8f39d9cdee870d60","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fb79b5e87485ec2ee32","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q4810838e529fd0f4e048","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":580,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T23:29:11.335Z","text":"只要明天我二巡动议上传 大家就可以去喝一杯了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4810838e529fd0f4e048","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q4d235746efb1a9fba8b6","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":581,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-11-18T23:30:04.687Z","text":"是指的正式被二巡接纳！？文件在二巡被上传！？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d235746efb1a9fba8b6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q492a9deae93855c80b25","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":582,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T23:30:27.219Z","text":"二巡已经立案了 比接纳猛一百倍","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4d235746efb1a9fba8b6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q492a9deae93855c80b25","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d235746efb1a9fba8b6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q5401af0241ad6f5a4d18","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":583,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T23:31:21.210Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]  现在正在往你说的方向发展","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5401af0241ad6f5a4d18","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q4fbd7c0e2349d60fbd10","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":584,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T23:31:43.823Z","text":"我明天的动议你们可以拿去用","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4fbd7c0e2349d60fbd10","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q6f1c2f306ccf0f82ce02","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":585,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T23:32:20.503Z","text":"引用","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf865a3b3f8c1f234700b","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f1c2f306ccf0f82ce02","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q1214e9c95bba48add1a5","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":586,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-11-18T23:34:14.417Z","text":"说到这里，突然想到，被告是不是就是在摆烂。你律师干不干活我也无所谓了，就按照程序走，上诉后你们不作为被驳回，再要求全体法官审理，再被驳回就走最高法，没有挤进去，就用2255，律师再乱来，故意写不好，那就接受安排。到那一步，有人要特赦，心情高兴就签字同意了，一切接受上天安排。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1214e9c95bba48add1a5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q00e3fe7ceb6bb3fc6b37","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":587,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-11-18T23:34:35.193Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 这个账号以前常在","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00e3fe7ceb6bb3fc6b37","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q8fb6b2889d75cecfdaca","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":588,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T23:34:44.886Z","text":"我也觉得","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1214e9c95bba48add1a5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8fb6b2889d75cecfdaca","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1214e9c95bba48add1a5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q59738d411702e168145a","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":589,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T23:34:52.144Z","text":"他就是摆烂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59738d411702e168145a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"qb726cbe01df8bad9702b","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":590,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-11-18T23:34:52.367Z","text":"什么时候可以看到二巡再立两个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb726cbe01df8bad9702b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q409e5ac1c9e7c3b7fdd2","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":591,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T23:35:06.415Z","text":"我怀疑 螺丝哥的立案希望很大","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb726cbe01df8bad9702b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q409e5ac1c9e7c3b7fdd2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb726cbe01df8bad9702b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q4f678cf957fbe2f2cd17","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":592,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T23:35:09.993Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f678cf957fbe2f2cd17","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"qcce81ac12bd123c47af1","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":593,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-11-18T23:35:29.003Z","text":"不是第二次被程序性拒绝了吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q409e5ac1c9e7c3b7fdd2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcce81ac12bd123c47af1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q409e5ac1c9e7c3b7fdd2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"qec7b0936f771c8b80769","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":594,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T23:35:36.436Z","text":"修复了 又交了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec7b0936f771c8b80769","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"qaf6effaa02d771bab247","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":595,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T23:35:41.938Z","text":"不知道过不过","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf6effaa02d771bab247","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q44d9da1a7654157a9a99","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":596,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-11-18T23:35:53.883Z","text":"他把美元或支票也寄到了美国去了吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q409e5ac1c9e7c3b7fdd2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44d9da1a7654157a9a99","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q409e5ac1c9e7c3b7fdd2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q57f601e6e24708d0b390","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":597,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T23:36:05.567Z","text":"差不多吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q44d9da1a7654157a9a99","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q57f601e6e24708d0b390","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44d9da1a7654157a9a99","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q2d5409653775f3e65b8d","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":598,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-11-18T23:36:46.533Z","text":"还是你们谁帮他缴费了！？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d5409653775f3e65b8d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"qf2e186b1a43cc531a55f","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":599,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T23:37:28.126Z","text":"人民币换的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2e186b1a43cc531a55f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"},{"id":"q1b35abadbe605cfb29fc","batch_id":"batch-000057","seq":600,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-18T23:37:35.618Z","text":"600美金也不多","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b35abadbe605cfb29fc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000057"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000056","next_batch_id":"batch-000058"}