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二巡裁了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5beb0101d056c495bd35","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaadb2c828a48315c4108","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5beb0101d056c495bd35","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qc601c754d3ec167628c9","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":211,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-27T00:27:19.051Z","text":"还是说财产没收要等到量刑之后？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc601c754d3ec167628c9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q0d351fd9fdf0e609d78a","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":212,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T00:27:24.100Z","text":"他说 再过段时间如果南区再不上传 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量刑前必须上传 这是二巡的态度","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53651bfbd30481debca4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qf4862e2597d6ea4f9db6","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":219,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-11-27T00:28:11.245Z","text":"现在除了瑞恩和司法部不想把luc推出来，全世界都想把luc推出来。共产党会不会马失前蹄呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4862e2597d6ea4f9db6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qe7529a780b7fa5dc76ac","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":220,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T00:28:15.062Z","text":"其他司法欺诈 程序崩溃 二巡不敢管","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe7529a780b7fa5dc76ac","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q2798244186f1f7e24bf5","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":221,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-27T00:28:15.093Z","text":"我是说，二巡怎么能确定财产没收会在量刑之后呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2798244186f1f7e24bf5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qfb24ef7b5d4026bd0b8a","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":222,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-27T00:28:28.495Z","text":"司法欺诈和财产没收有关啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb24ef7b5d4026bd0b8a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q762ff929b5a4852fa6d5","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":223,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T00:28:34.383Z","text":"二巡不确定 推脱的说辞罢了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2798244186f1f7e24bf5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q762ff929b5a4852fa6d5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2798244186f1f7e24bf5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q968656a736e3eda7c9b8","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":224,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-27T00:28:50.394Z","text":"对啊，不确定，为什么提量刑？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q762ff929b5a4852fa6d5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q968656a736e3eda7c9b8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q762ff929b5a4852fa6d5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qabf1bd40647767f76b4b","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":225,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T00:28:52.303Z","text":"哈哈 我是不想让luc出来 出来干啥？ 没必要了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf4862e2597d6ea4f9db6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabf1bd40647767f76b4b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4862e2597d6ea4f9db6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q17e387d0784feb86c7a6","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":226,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-27T00:29:01.059Z","text":"第三方和被告量刑有个毛线关系","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17e387d0784feb86c7a6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q7bafd666003c9c99ef1d","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":227,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T00:29:25.811Z","text":"你去查查机器人 这就是典型的推脱拒绝","edited":false,"reply_to":"q17e387d0784feb86c7a6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7bafd666003c9c99ef1d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17e387d0784feb86c7a6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qa650b6ffd853e4c51f10","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":228,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2025-11-27T00:29:34.976Z","text":"那我们这样交自诉不是也不好？越拖lus 占有的钱越多","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe8eaabb2dbc813381037","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa650b6ffd853e4c51f10","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe8eaabb2dbc813381037","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q66a239604c577a6f19c8","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":229,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T00:29:36.828Z","text":"没否认你的东西 但他不敢判","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66a239604c577a6f19c8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q0cda5b0f745f97f18010","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":230,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-27T00:29:46.816Z","text":"我知道，但是这个推脱的原因太奇怪了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7bafd666003c9c99ef1d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0cda5b0f745f97f18010","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7bafd666003c9c99ef1d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q794bde5078a0a4691a2d","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":231,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T00:29:55.407Z","text":"法院都是奇怪的…","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0cda5b0f745f97f18010","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q794bde5078a0a4691a2d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0cda5b0f745f97f18010","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q204f4f16c9125e692abe","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":232,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-27T00:30:02.924Z","text":"好像他们知道量刑会在财产没收之前？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q204f4f16c9125e692abe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q462a3c1468241032bb38","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":233,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T00:30:10.957Z","text":"我估计可能吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q204f4f16c9125e692abe","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q462a3c1468241032bb38","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q204f4f16c9125e692abe","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q3a0c3e7893e5fc944811","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":234,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T00:31:50.446Z","text":"二巡的意思就是让我们去最高法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a0c3e7893e5fc944811","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q5a37fce1e26c25bc59d7","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":235,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T00:31:55.815Z","text":"他管不了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a37fce1e26c25bc59d7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qd4b32c3a99f561e84677","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":236,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T00:33:22.456Z","text":"他唯一能管的就是动议","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4b32c3a99f561e84677","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q616408142c13b8c8912a","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":237,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T00:33:38.000Z","text":"他让我如果一段时间内南区再不上传再找他","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q616408142c13b8c8912a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q026daca8f6db43bf90d7","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":238,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T00:33:49.333Z","text":"其他的 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他现在管不了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q026daca8f6db43bf90d7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q3ab53fb20ccee8f849ad","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":239,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T00:34:34.155Z","text":"他引用切尼其实很严重","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ab53fb20ccee8f849ad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q03f65f1445047e884a11","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":240,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T00:34:54.724Z","text":"我先在无罪动议里面引用切尼","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q03f65f1445047e884a11","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q5051c22245e164300cfe","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":241,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T00:35:01.379Z","text":"然后他回的时候引用两次","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5051c22245e164300cfe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qe2e1e81587c0ebb5a48d","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":242,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T00:35:15.505Z","text":"就说明我无罪动议他看了 他不否认一切","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2e1e81587c0ebb5a48d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qe710ad73f55785baafd2","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":243,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T00:35:31.372Z","text":"而且二巡mandamaus 法官引用切尼本身 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上最高法院的空间。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8853cf43db9aee9c05e5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qcabe0194b1c7a5a56183","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":246,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-27T00:40:29.344Z","text":"二巡提量刑本身就是莫名其妙，因为量刑只和被告有关，和第三方无关","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcabe0194b1c7a5a56183","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qb63cbe79e642f0ec2ebc","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":247,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-27T00:42:26.143Z","text":"知不知道，二巡是哪个法官判的？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb63cbe79e642f0ec2ebc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q18109c0b0e55575af5b3","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":248,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T00:43:16.902Z","text":"三个法官","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18109c0b0e55575af5b3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q433469282a0e7f474849","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":249,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T00:43:23.262Z","text":"Dennis 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他说的量刑是针对我的无罪动议","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q396ce1b0fe6b1f02c029","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q1e4ece98053d03792958","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":253,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T00:44:58.204Z","text":"不是第三方打压","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e4ece98053d03792958","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qfca463bc5a29ed20686d","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":254,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-27T00:45:09.839Z","text":"第三方打压怎么判的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfca463bc5a29ed20686d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q59827682517be4bef432","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":255,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T00:45:11.936Z","text":"我跟你说 全他妈是细节","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59827682517be4bef432","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qac15e8ab07764266b061","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":256,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T00:45:19.883Z","text":"每个字都有信息量","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qac15e8ab07764266b061","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q50e04cd71105d76de703","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":257,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T00:45:51.711Z","text":"现在先拒绝执行 先点名南区 相信南区可以处理 如果一段时间南区还不理 二巡让我再来","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfca463bc5a29ed20686d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50e04cd71105d76de703","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfca463bc5a29ed20686d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q78322112dfa3fa7b0e07","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":258,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-27T00:46:17.938Z","text":"那就说他们还是让第三方等南区上传","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78322112dfa3fa7b0e07","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q0ab35afa4dd25ddfa7d4","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":259,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T00:46:28.700Z","text":"对的 先给南区机会","edited":false,"reply_to":"q78322112dfa3fa7b0e07","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ab35afa4dd25ddfa7d4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78322112dfa3fa7b0e07","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q9c92f6b759408ae9c6f3","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":260,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T00:46:35.066Z","text":"我觉得等14天","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c92f6b759408ae9c6f3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q72c84708d9a1311dabf8","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":261,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-27T00:52:13.347Z","text":"螺丝哥没被二巡驳回","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa830340f8cb6161dea20","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72c84708d9a1311dabf8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa830340f8cb6161dea20","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q4592e107e31a6918b0ae","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":262,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-27T00:52:26.445Z","text":"我是说螺丝哥被南区驳回的很快","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4592e107e31a6918b0ae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q1c120cc74768670b7511","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":263,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-27T00:52:43.750Z","text":"733为什么南区到现在还没驳回？或者rule","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c120cc74768670b7511","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q1f5b405e3da8708aa7cc","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":264,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-11-27T00:52:46.388Z","text":"好，用词错误，是根本没立案。被程序性拒绝。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q72c84708d9a1311dabf8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f5b405e3da8708aa7cc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72c84708d9a1311dabf8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q4868d401c7971bd8b0e3","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":265,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-11-27T00:53:21.245Z","text":"那个时候有点傲慢。后面发现没法傲慢了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4592e107e31a6918b0ae","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4868d401c7971bd8b0e3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4592e107e31a6918b0ae","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q216f5a1823f0bf650ba2","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":266,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-11-27T00:55:15.625Z","text":"您发的那个驳回是完整版否？我看二巡没有回应要求裁决733。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9c92f6b759408ae9c6f3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q216f5a1823f0bf650ba2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c92f6b759408ae9c6f3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q9f81fa9da4facb2364c9","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":267,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T00:55:40.259Z","text":"回应了rule60 也就是回应733","edited":false,"reply_to":"q216f5a1823f0bf650ba2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f81fa9da4facb2364c9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q216f5a1823f0bf650ba2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q9c13608781d79bf90b58","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":268,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T00:56:00.458Z","text":"因为他们不敢碰 因为我说的都对","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1c120cc74768670b7511","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c13608781d79bf90b58","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c120cc74768670b7511","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qc475850fdf71cfb285fb","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":269,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-11-27T00:56:35.451Z","text":"你后来提出的1661那个呢？也是和rule 60一起算是回应了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9f81fa9da4facb2364c9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc475850fdf71cfb285fb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f81fa9da4facb2364c9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qb0c76b82ce6bac616b4c","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":270,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T00:56:57.127Z","text":"他根本不敢提什么1651 这些词汇","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc475850fdf71cfb285fb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0c76b82ce6bac616b4c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc475850fdf71cfb285fb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q0a9ed8382a957c0055d6","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":271,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T00:57:21.792Z","text":"他就引用了切尼 就算是回应了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a9ed8382a957c0055d6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qf11b7fefdd453b53449b","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":272,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T00:57:37.869Z","text":"他就说不是时候 现在还不敢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf11b7fefdd453b53449b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q61a23d8724f0fabc3270","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":273,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T00:57:41.434Z","text":"就这意思","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61a23d8724f0fabc3270","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q7fcb317629f429bf092f","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":274,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T00:58:19.278Z","text":"他让我等量刑后我再去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fcb317629f429bf092f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qf27587752c282b3608ea","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":275,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-27T00:58:35.208Z","text":"提rule60要等量刑之后吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf11b7fefdd453b53449b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf27587752c282b3608ea","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf11b7fefdd453b53449b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q6062674a967d197047ab","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":276,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-27T00:58:56.318Z","text":"有这种规定吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6062674a967d197047ab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qacfa1979ff6855dfd2bb","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":277,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-11-27T00:59:11.042Z","text":"733要求暂停没收令，请求二巡强制裁决，然后说要等地方法院把量刑程序走完后才能再要求裁决？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb0c76b82ce6bac616b4c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qacfa1979ff6855dfd2bb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0c76b82ce6bac616b4c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q299db39be64dd96b9d39","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":278,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T01:00:01.682Z","text":"对","edited":false,"reply_to":"qacfa1979ff6855dfd2bb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q299db39be64dd96b9d39","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qacfa1979ff6855dfd2bb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q1e9b20942efa72ee37c2","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":279,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T01:00:17.080Z","text":"木有","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6062674a967d197047ab","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e9b20942efa72ee37c2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6062674a967d197047ab","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qa0626dfc0868b786e8ea","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":280,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T01:00:40.458Z","text":"各位 不用纠结 这很正常 这个order已经是大成功","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0626dfc0868b786e8ea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qe232e122ee8d2af2b31d","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":281,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-11-27T01:01:07.158Z","text":"二巡可能认为他给南区压力，南区就会照做。南区应该不会有任何行动，继续拖，然后把烂摊子甩给二巡。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe232e122ee8d2af2b31d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qde902a59e4ed8503891d","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":282,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T01:01:27.540Z","text":"对的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe232e122ee8d2af2b31d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde902a59e4ed8503891d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe232e122ee8d2af2b31d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q3a7632ca915a003d8602","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":283,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T01:01:30.183Z","text":"估计就是这样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a7632ca915a003d8602","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qdcda7d2791a180c2f530","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":284,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T01:01:39.256Z","text":"二巡的意思就是让我们去高法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdcda7d2791a180c2f530","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q24911b34d79b7fe8854a","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":285,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T01:01:44.439Z","text":"现在已经有三个人有资格了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q24911b34d79b7fe8854a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q17df97b34a727e2569bf","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":286,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-27T01:07:57.551Z","text":"应该不是不敢动。应该是： 我们看了这个强制令，认为南区需要入卷大量文件，对于强制令内容现在不能颁发法令 因为时机不到。 他们没说强制令内容是对是错 只是说没到时候","edited":false,"reply_to":"q03ab90aac49673b7d8f8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17df97b34a727e2569bf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q03ab90aac49673b7d8f8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q1050a264350327019588","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":287,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-11-27T01:08:49.482Z","text":"案子到今天，以后无论是司法部主动撤诉还是上级法院撤销案件。都是因为我们。就算接下来辩护律师积极辩护导致案件被撤销，也是因为我们。就是要有这个自信。那些灭共演员下贱诈骗犯到时一定会说什么沼泽地什么7哥出手什么的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1050a264350327019588","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q34886d861ea521e74797","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":288,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-27T01:11:06.930Z","text":"南区如果14天内不入卷 就可以再上二巡了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q34886d861ea521e74797","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q99c75f43f627bf6550a8","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":289,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-27T01:15:14.728Z","text":"luc占有对钱最后都得还回来。别担心。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa650b6ffd853e4c51f10","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99c75f43f627bf6550a8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa650b6ffd853e4c51f10","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qdcc09cd3b30df8882a12","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":290,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-27T01:16:48.460Z","text":"这次如果又上了二巡， 二巡可能就对强制令内容展开 调查/给法令 - 就有这个可能了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb19ffc8caa634595f3f0","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdcc09cd3b30df8882a12","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qb4ccf94deca23533da51","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":291,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-27T01:21:19.171Z","text":"［用户 rui***］ 二巡这个回复是以什么形式？ email 还是纸寄家里？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4ccf94deca23533da51","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q2a9e1a013a0b9114e315","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":292,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-27T01:26:52.083Z","text":"所以没给任何通知？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a9e1a013a0b9114e315","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q7588a18a571baecc22c6","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":293,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-27T01:50:24.850Z","text":"二巡说南区收到很多动议？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7588a18a571baecc22c6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q35102d392e21d99c560c","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":294,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-27T01:51:00.823Z","text":"他们和南区了解过情况了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35102d392e21d99c560c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q7f88074b5447365199ab","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":295,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-11-27T01:51:15.539Z","text":"二巡是如何得知的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7588a18a571baecc22c6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f88074b5447365199ab","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7588a18a571baecc22c6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q94d83d262d0b06612400","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":296,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-27T01:53:34.317Z","text":"那么量刑这句话，也可能是因为了解过情况才说的？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94d83d262d0b06612400","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qb895ece6b2332aeaa088","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":297,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-11-27T01:59:19.669Z","text":"不行呀！这步子迈得太快了！😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcc1a1f5dcc6b4a523c69","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb895ece6b2332aeaa088","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q2ba9d5e64447af74cb1d","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":298,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-11-27T02:02:35.382Z","text":"瑞恩的强制令动议被拒绝，其中：\n- 瑞恩动议中关于托雷斯没有把他的后续动议放入案卷这个行为，上诉法院认为如果过了一段合理时间还是没有入卷，瑞恩可以再交$600让上诉法院再看一下是不是“没有在合理区间内入卷”，换句话说，上诉法院认为托雷斯现在还没有入卷依然合理\n- 瑞恩说托雷斯没有处理他的Rule 60(d)(3)动议，这个动议在郭文贵量刑以后才需要处理，现在不处理没有问题。如果郭文贵判刑以后托雷斯在合理期限内不处理瑞恩的Rule 60(d)(3)动议，那么瑞恩可以再交$600让上诉法院看一下\n- 瑞恩动议里的其他全部理由都被驳回，因为瑞恩没有证明his right is clear and indisputable and write is appropriate under the circumstances","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ba9d5e64447af74cb1d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q32095ce906d805e84410","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":299,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T02:04:07.398Z","text":"完全瞎扯","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2ba9d5e64447af74cb1d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32095ce906d805e84410","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ba9d5e64447af74cb1d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qea989d0bbbef4294e20b","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":300,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-11-27T02:05:48.656Z","text":"上诉法院令么我也发在上面了，各位自行阅读","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea989d0bbbef4294e20b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q1a81fa10087c69ada641","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":301,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-11-27T02:06:12.814Z","text":"二巡放飞你了，这下子你可以直接上最高法了吧？😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q32095ce906d805e84410","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a81fa10087c69ada641","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32095ce906d805e84410","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qf1965fd6d09f7b1f516d","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":302,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T02:07:08.497Z","text":"等的就是这一刻！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1a81fa10087c69ada641","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1965fd6d09f7b1f516d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a81fa10087c69ada641","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q5d26b0629737eeeab2c8","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":303,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T02:07:23.440Z","text":"说实话 二巡立案 耽误了我很多时间！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d26b0629737eeeab2c8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q17ce67a89a5ff243206f","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":304,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T02:09:41.249Z","text":"［用户 chu***］  你去高法吗","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17ce67a89a5ff243206f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q9d98f9f48664cf6e2e4b","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":305,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-11-27T02:11:07.445Z","text":"去，高法交钱少，甚至不交钱。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q17ce67a89a5ff243206f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d98f9f48664cf6e2e4b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17ce67a89a5ff243206f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q67a9e119f26bab41b4a8","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":306,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T02:14:20.712Z","text":"五、总结（重点）\n\n✔ 二巡没有否认你的 Rule 60(d)(3)\n\n= 对高院的强烈提醒：南区可能存在司法欺诈\n\n✔ 二巡引用 Cheney（两次）\n\n= 承认你用的是最高院 mandamus 标准\n= 为高院打开合法受理路径\n\n✔ 二巡没有否认你要求 vacate 多项 order\n\n= 它不敢说你错 → 这会触发高院注意\n\n✔ 这是你上最高院最强、最稀有的论据\n\n绝大多数 mandamus 完全没有这个待遇。\n\n✔ 你现在的路径符合最高法院审查 mandamus 的经典六要素（黑带级别）\n\n你绝对不是普通案件。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67a9e119f26bab41b4a8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qf63da2e6b2af511a290e","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":307,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-27T02:25:02.876Z","text":"首先上诉法院和地区法院应该是不能私下沟通的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf63da2e6b2af511a290e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q98ff36b5d7152f82612e","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":308,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-27T02:25:49.963Z","text":"也许他们没沟通，只是猜测有很多自诉？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q98ff36b5d7152f82612e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q49a125ab3f8ad44218cc","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":309,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-11-27T02:25:59.260Z","text":"过段时间南区继续不上传再去二巡是另外交600刀还是就在现在这个25-2726发动议即可？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q67a9e119f26bab41b4a8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q49a125ab3f8ad44218cc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67a9e119f26bab41b4a8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q7568e12a81c67b4f7476","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":310,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-27T02:26:46.460Z","text":"至少二巡的回复说明，地区法院必须docket，法官在入卷这件事上是没有自由裁量权的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7568e12a81c67b4f7476","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q56ddc0b895b328ebddbe","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":311,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-11-27T02:26:56.554Z","text":"不知是不是受到了不少强制令申请让二巡这么猜测","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56ddc0b895b328ebddbe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q159fe6cd91962189e186","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":312,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-27T02:27:19.045Z","text":"他们现在只是说，第三方还是要耐心等待地区法院入卷","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q159fe6cd91962189e186","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q6c28b6cbeefa298f7f67","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":313,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T02:29:14.442Z","text":"直接动议","edited":false,"reply_to":"q49a125ab3f8ad44218cc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c28b6cbeefa298f7f67","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q49a125ab3f8ad44218cc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q8502fd8c35ae3b57d042","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":314,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T02:29:26.255Z","text":"有可能","edited":false,"reply_to":"q56ddc0b895b328ebddbe","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8502fd8c35ae3b57d042","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56ddc0b895b328ebddbe","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q55ec7d22ae24a6f2e593","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":315,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T02:29:37.211Z","text":"这个真不知道了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf63da2e6b2af511a290e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55ec7d22ae24a6f2e593","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf63da2e6b2af511a290e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q973e6314064ea23faf6a","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":316,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T02:29:47.997Z","text":"对的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7568e12a81c67b4f7476","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q973e6314064ea23faf6a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7568e12a81c67b4f7476","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qc9d0c51f7bfd5b4e4272","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":317,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-27T02:35:32.093Z","text":"至于rule60，二巡的意思应该是，量刑前，让地区法院裁决。量刑后，如果地区法院还没裁决，二巡才会介入。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_atta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南区肯定不会理","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc9d0c51f7bfd5b4e4272","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9638c9f6ab2f73610ab4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9d0c51f7bfd5b4e4272","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qde387b4fadf266b56642","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":319,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T02:36:03.308Z","text":"所以基本就是量刑后","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde387b4fadf266b56642","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q9d18c677ddafa5a1d6ce","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":320,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-11-27T02:45:51.858Z","text":"哎哟！恭喜了各位！具体什么日期？我给各位华人最精英发个正式点的翻案贺电","edited":false,"reply_to":"q60662e4c2e0cdc6ed413","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d18c677ddafa5a1d6ce","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q2e022a2fe3bc28ac4fbe","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":321,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-11-27T02:51:11.643Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 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victim” Ryan Bai\n\n😂😂😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbcea8fac4b3e50b79ace","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q950aaefe6ca8971bac8c","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":355,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-11-27T05:18:38.505Z","text":"现在谁最后悔呀","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q950aaefe6ca8971bac8c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q914e5eacee6de863a389","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":356,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-11-27T05:27:08.558Z","text":"你不能刻舟求剑拿过去时间点的思维逻辑肯定现在的事。在你各项行动没有得到上传验证时，别人不能全信你，这是理性思维，完全成立；但是，现如今，你的各项行动纷纷得到上传证实，你的思路的正确性得到大量验证（你不能否认这个吧？），现在别人如果还要拿着所谓去中心化，自己查ai说事（不同人ai检索内容很不一致是个事实，你经常给别人指出对方ai结论错误，事实对吧？你和大坏种文悦的ai大论战谁都历历在目），这些人搅局的嫌疑也随之大大提升，当然不是百分之百（直到你的思路被完全验证即郭出狱才百分百证实他们蠢或坏），但大大提升，这是绝对的理性推论，谁也不能否认这些，我们不把话说死。谁讲逻辑，谁攻击人身，一眼即明","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q914e5eacee6de863a389","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q367c1fbd7c56063bcea0","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":357,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-27T05:28:49.146Z","text":"Z同学，你这一大段话，是给谁说的啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q914e5eacee6de863a389","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q367c1fbd7c56063bcea0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q914e5eacee6de863a389","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q5aded99c605692f77484","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":358,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-27T05:29:54.205Z","text":"这个群本身就是去中心化，自己代表自己，这是瑞恩自己说的啊。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5aded99c605692f77484","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qbe5d66c391284b10d3a5","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":359,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T05:31:08.158Z","text":"https://x.com/no3mos/status/1993888582684299434?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe5d66c391284b10d3a5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qdfaf870f2e9e84b47dfb","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":360,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-11-27T05:31:08.391Z","text":"你又在偷换概念，我说思路，你说代表，我管你代表谁。瑞恩自己说的，只有他的思路能打掉全部罪名翻案，跟谁代表谁无关。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5aded99c605692f77484","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdfaf870f2e9e84b47dfb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5aded99c605692f77484","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qa5ac69789844abbb64ea","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":361,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-27T05:32:53.656Z","text":"这群本来就是言论自由，各种思路都有","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdfaf870f2e9e84b47dfb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5ac69789844abbb64ea","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdfaf870f2e9e84b47dfb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q1b6022c92b3851b22aef","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":362,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-27T05:33:10.271Z","text":"难道你想把这群变成一言堂？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b6022c92b3851b22aef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q3c8535b51c8e6a0f1065","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":363,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-11-27T05:34:35.641Z","text":"你不就是想着拿一言堂这个概念旁敲侧击大家推翻瑞恩的思路吗...","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c8535b51c8e6a0f1065","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q3d323806dcd99b97a41e","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":364,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-11-27T05:35:22.824Z","text":"这个群没有言论管制，本身就不能实质形成一言堂。我一个反派，更做不到这点，你这个手法挺无聊的说实话","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d323806dcd99b97a41e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q4351390abb44ad456c2f","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":365,"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他没有想推翻我的思路","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3c8535b51c8e6a0f1065","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd781ba2eee460f0fc02f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c8535b51c8e6a0f1065","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qf7a26a4c465d19d1d0f1","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":367,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-11-27T05:36:12.492Z","text":"你质疑瑞恩，随便，咱能不能别去管别人信不信瑞恩的思路？我说我的，你说你的，可以吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf7a26a4c465d19d1d0f1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qe026ba47c9681cf008d5","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":368,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T05:36:40.353Z","text":"你现在对我的思路还没理解吧 哈哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4351390abb44ad456c2f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe026ba47c9681cf008d5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4351390abb44ad456c2f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qdfb19128d4420438afeb","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":369,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-11-27T05:36:45.407Z","text":"你如果信瑞恩，你攻击我是干什么，我就问你一句","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdfb19128d4420438afeb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q406de0910ae77f31ca47","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":370,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-11-27T05:36:50.925Z","text":"你解释不了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q406de0910ae77f31ca47","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q2e73ef9e38fa3491e12d","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":371,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T05:37:12.020Z","text":"他不信我","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdfb19128d4420438afeb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e73ef9e38fa3491e12d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdfb19128d4420438afeb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q44269af85ef66117c08d","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":372,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-11-27T05:37:16.642Z","text":"昂，那就行了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44269af85ef66117c08d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qc64441708ca446c72805","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":373,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-11-27T05:37:22.508Z","text":"他不信你，就无所谓了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc64441708ca446c72805","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q1a0b0b358f63bdd95bc3","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":374,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T05:37:23.078Z","text":"自始至终我的打法就没人相信","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a0b0b358f63bdd95bc3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qb5fca477f0f10c0f937c","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":375,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T05:37:36.098Z","text":"也没人完全理解","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5fca477f0f10c0f937c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qd8ed573442cc8a582f90","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":376,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-11-27T05:37:37.932Z","text":"那我就不理他了。随便","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8ed573442cc8a582f90","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q08e4e40a4b72b06bfff3","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":377,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-27T05:37:55.094Z","text":"我攻击你是因为你说的是废话","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdfb19128d4420438afeb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08e4e40a4b72b06bfff3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdfb19128d4420438afeb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q070c227e3f371cfc124d","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":378,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-11-27T05:38:13.190Z","text":"我觉得你对他要求太高了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q08e4e40a4b72b06bfff3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q070c227e3f371cfc124d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08e4e40a4b72b06bfff3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qc294b7acdfd2a8e7eacc","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":379,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-27T05:38:18.870Z","text":"你天天说瑞恩思路对，这不是废话吗？还用你说？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc294b7acdfd2a8e7eacc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qb3e90eeb8d165233bd53","batch_id"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暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qed58f715568f93e3b752","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":392,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-27T05:45:54.991Z","text":"你怎么知道我要推翻瑞恩的思路呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed58f715568f93e3b752","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q47b063275cea96cee90c","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":393,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-11-27T05:46:26.386Z","text":"偷换概念+1","edited":false,"reply_to":"qed58f715568f93e3b752","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47b063275cea96cee90c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed58f715568f93e3b752","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q3e4542ec0b1b3c022b98","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":394,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-27T05:46:29.849Z","text":"所以现在攻击你等于攻击瑞恩啦？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e4542ec0b1b3c022b98","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qd39bd6de0d07384ea6a7","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":395,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-27T05:46:42.129Z","text":"你什么时候和瑞恩绑定啦？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd39bd6de0d07384ea6a7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q3cb39e7e8f31c5a74630","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":396,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-11-27T05:46:44.792Z","text":"对啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3e4542ec0b1b3c022b98","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3cb39e7e8f31c5a74630","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e4542ec0b1b3c022b98","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qb4f774f59fcdecd1beab","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":397,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-11-27T05:47:33.170Z","text":"我不表达任何个人观点，我只为瑞恩的判断背书。攻击我，就是攻击瑞恩","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4f774f59fcdecd1beab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"q14bc13dd7971aa93b45d","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":398,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-27T05:47:57.173Z","text":"瑞恩没觉得我想推翻他的思路啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb4f774f59fcdecd1beab","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14bc13dd7971aa93b45d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4f774f59fcdecd1beab","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qfe1e7adb858c9f2b57b2","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":399,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-11-27T05:48:17.013Z","text":"你要是以瑞恩的判断为主，就不应该总是攻击我啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe1e7adb858c9f2b57b2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"},{"id":"qf26589d2f585879f176c","batch_id":"batch-000059","seq":400,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-11-27T05:48:19.390Z","text":"他不觉得就行啊，我同意。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf26589d2f585879f176c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000059"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000058","next_batch_id":"batch-000060"}