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 亲口承认郭文贵犯了检方指控的所有罪名\n•  亲手把量刑指南往最高档推\n•  亲手把郭文贵的名字和“诈骗犯”永久钉在联邦法院判决书上\n所以从纯法律角度看，他们越是强调“我是检方的受害人”，对郭文贵的伤害越大——因为这恰恰是将检方的全部指控从“检察官的说法”变成了“大量被害人亲口证实的事实”。\n一句话总结：\n在联邦刑事法庭里，“我是检方的受害人”这句话的法律效果，和“我是郭文贵诈骗的受害人”完全一模一样，而且杀伤力更强，因为它让检方的指控获得了“被害人群体认证”的最高级别证明力","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4c4519cfc27433092d98","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q403425f3c7ba617695f6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c4519cfc27433092d98","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q54a76d4c4460013ae510","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":222,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-04T13:54:12.380Z","text":"你这种PUA+转移话题，对我无效","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc5c118c3020e7ebf0f69","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54a76d4c4460013ae510","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q2d2fecac3d1fe832820e","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":223,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-04T13:54:26.970Z","text":"这是一个非常好的问题，它触及了美国联邦刑事司法中一个关键的法律原则：法律程序只关注客观事实和行为的后果，不考虑受害者的主观动机或情感立场。\n之所以会出现“不是郭文贵先生伤害我，却对他不利”的情况，核心原因在于联邦刑事程序对“受害人”的定义和量刑机制。\n🧐\n 导致这种结果的三个关键法律机制\n法律对“受害人”的客观定义\n联邦刑事程序中，“受害人”（Victim）的法律地位是基于检方的起诉书确定的。\n \n检方的立场： 检方指控郭文贵先生实施了金融诈骗，起诉书列出了具体的受损人。在法律眼中，这些被起诉书列为受损的人，就是该犯罪行为的受害人。\n法院的立场： 法院在定罪（或接受认罪）后，其首要任务是确定犯罪造成的客观损害和赔偿对象。法官关注的是：\n金钱损失是否发生？ (Did the financial loss occur?)\n损失是否与被指控的犯罪行为直接相关？ (Is the loss caused by the alleged criminal scheme?)\n您的主观意愿被忽略： 您主观上认为“不是郭文贵先生伤害我”，但当您行使受害人权利（例如，要求取回资金）时，您在法律上客观地确认了：您的资金损失了，并且损失是发生在检方指控的这个“被诈骗的计划”之内的。\n结论： 法律程序只看您客观上是否是被起诉的犯罪行为的受损方，而不在乎您是否仍支持被告人。您的参与被法律程序解读为：对犯罪事实的损失部分的确认。\n量刑指南的机械性计算\n美国《联邦量刑指南》（U.S. Sentencing Guidelines, USSGs）在计算刑期时，是一个高度量化和机械化的过程。它要求法官必须考虑以下因素：\n \n总损失金额 (Total Loss Amount)： 所有的受害人主张的损失金额会被累加。这个总数直接决定了被告人的罪行级别。您的资金被计入，就提高了总损失，从而提高了刑期。\n受害人数量 (Number of Victims)： 法官必须清点所有受到犯罪行为影响的个体数量。数量越多，量刑级别越高。您作为其中之一，也增加了量刑的加重因素。\n结论： 量刑指南不包含受害人是否支持被告人的考量因素。您的参与行为只被视为“增加了损失金额和受害人数”，直接导致了对郭文贵先生不利的量刑加重。\n赔偿的强制性义务\n美国法律赋予受害人要求赔偿（Restitution）的权利。\n \n当您行使这一权利时，无论您嘴上怎么说，您实际上是在向法庭提出一个法律要求，即：您希望拿回在这起被控犯罪中失去的钱。\n法庭一旦判决郭文贵先生有罪，就会发布强制性赔偿令。您的名字和金额会被写在赔偿令上，成为郭文贵先生必须履行的法律义务，进一步固化其“诈骗犯”的法律身份和经济负担。\n因此，之所以会出现您说的这种情况，是因为您的行动（行使权利）带来的客观法律效果，已经完全超越了您的主观意愿（支持被告人），从而对被告人产生了直接、不利的法律后果。\n您是否想了解在量刑阶段，郭文贵先生的辩护律师可以如何利用您“不支持检方”的立场？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfe6d474b9d2722dd12fe","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d2fecac3d1fe832820e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe6d474b9d2722dd12fe","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q003a1750f9567d949dc8","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":224,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-04T13:55:35.910Z","text":"［用户 him***］美国法律的“无情”客观性\n关注“资金流向”而非“情感忠诚”,\n在联邦诈骗案中，检方关注的核心是：\n• 是否有资金损失？ (Did a loss occur?)\n• 资金是否从受害人流向被告人或其控制的公司？ (Did money flow from the victim to the defendant's control?)\n• 资金流动是否发生在检方指控的“诈骗计划”期间？ (Was the money flow part of the alleged scheme?)\n只要您投资的资金符合这三个客观条件，您在法律程序中就是“受损方”。法庭并不会问您：“您是否仍然支持郭文贵先生？”法庭只会问：“您是否要求拿回这笔在被控诈骗中损失的钱？”\n法律结论： 您的资金客观上失去了，且被卷入检方的指控中。当您行使权利时，您实质上是在确认检方关于资金损失的这一客观指控。\n“诈骗”的法律定义与政治立场无关,\n联邦法律对“诈骗”（Fraud）的定义是：通过虚假陈述或承诺，获取他人的金钱或财产。\n• 主观支持的无效性： 即使您认为郭文贵先生的承诺是真实的，并且您是自愿、怀着支持的目的投资，但如果检方能够证明（在定罪后）：1) 承诺是虚假的（例如，投资项目并未实际存在或用途不符）；2) 您因此失去了金钱。那么，诈骗罪在法律上就成立了。\n• 您的声明是“个人叙事”，而非“法律事实”： 您说“他没有骗我”，这是一个支持性声明。但当您在法律文件上要求赔偿时，您的行动被法官解读为：您要求收回在诈骗计划中被拿走的资金。在法律面前，行动的客观性压倒了言语的主观性。\n量刑指南的“自动加重”机制,\n前文提到，联邦量刑指南是一种非常机械化的表格计算系统。它设计原则就是：犯罪造成的损害越大，刑期越重。\n• 损失 $100万 和损失 $5000万，量刑级别不同。\n• 受害者 10 人 和受害者 100 人，量刑级别不同。\n您的参与，无论带着何种情感，都给这些法律表格添加了一个 “数字”（您的损失金额）和一个 “人头”（受害人数量 +1）。这是一种自动的、数学化的刑期加重机制。\n总结：\n这种“奇葩”的情况正是法律程序的本质：它是一个通过客观证据、程序规则和量化标准来运行的系统。在这个系统中，您对郭文贵先生的政治忠诚和情感支持是无关因素，而您的资金流失和行使赔偿权利是直接影响量刑的法律事实。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q003a1750f9567d949dc8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q210f8ee457ff83d2f186","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":225,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-04T13:57:25.165Z","text":"你不就是这个思路嘛","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q210f8ee457ff83d2f186","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qa64ea838b50cf5f0c56b","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":226,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-04T13:58:01.742Z","text":"你不就是这个意思嘛","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa64ea838b50cf5f0c56b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q8671f40370e1ad3aefb9","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":227,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-04T13:58:52.102Z","text":"你说的话，我都很通俗的翻译成白话给你听","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfd3ecffcb5b84e426c20","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8671f40370e1ad3aefb9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qb40f9239c2e0e0acdfe3","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":228,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-04T13:58:59.521Z","text":"所以你说的自诉陷阱就是自诉人会成为郭的受害人，然后给郭加重量刑，是吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q003a1750f9567d949dc8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb40f9239c2e0e0acdfe3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q003a1750f9567d949dc8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q78f023adb6020dc37894","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":229,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-04T13:59:12.234Z","text":"大概率是这样子","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb40f9239c2e0e0acdfe3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78f023adb6020dc37894","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb40f9239c2e0e0acdfe3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q05ee0bf0f731ef8eff0b","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":230,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-04T13:59:41.272Z","text":"不要转移话题，有事说事","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2438fd56340f760a71bd","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05ee0bf0f731ef8eff0b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q85e352e4f7963db2dc7d","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":231,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-04T13:59:58.126Z","text":"你不用担心了，这群里几乎没人管郭的死活。有一些人是想找检方漏洞，把案子搅黄，青史留名的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85e352e4f7963db2dc7d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q44c14219d7e50125e9b3","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":232,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-04T14:00:11.399Z","text":"好了，过几天，我在上一个专业的律师AI分析吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44c14219d7e50125e9b3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q427501bc9b22641db407","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":233,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-04T14:00:43.484Z","text":"对啊，我也根据这个丁不群的意思说了，反正操[屏蔽词]人多，也不在乎我去操他","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q427501bc9b22641db407","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qa04c084983cb59fa76f9","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":234,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-04T14:01:00.396Z","text":"不就是这个意思么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa04c084983cb59fa76f9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qaed5eed7365f81965848","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":235,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-04T14:01:56.500Z","text":"自诉群体，不就是这个意思吗？如果还有点良知的，我想应当会想办法规避这个自诉陷阱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaed5eed7365f81965848","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qe02fb3878c7fd1781d2f","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":236,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-04T14:03:04.890Z","text":"文悦，如果你真是[删节：成员身份]的，你可以用你的脑子想想，案子黄了，还有受害人吗？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe02fb3878c7fd1781d2f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q8f3539a13843cbc64499","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":237,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-04T14:03:33.902Z","text":"当然了，如果你是装着[删节：成员身份]的","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f3539a13843cbc64499","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q886ade27884fabf984f4","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":238,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-04T14:03:53.318Z","text":"自诉人上法庭砸锅，对你来说不是正好","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q886ade27884fabf984f4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q281ef1ac96647ee885b9","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":239,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-04T14:04:30.020Z","text":"所以无论你是挺郭还是砸锅，你都没必要关心什么自诉陷阱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q281ef1ac96647ee885b9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q4a8245388413c92160b4","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":240,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-04T14:06:56.771Z","text":"你这个逻辑就有问题了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a8245388413c92160b4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q3a853ba887db30802c5b","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":241,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-04T14:07:20.809Z","text":"逻辑有没有问题，都所谓","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a853ba887db30802c5b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qe2be9d6f29480f57c4c7","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":242,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-04T14:07:21.282Z","text":"案子黄了，你和我说怎么黄了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2be9d6f29480f57c4c7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q82367f060034d5fb045a","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":243,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-04T14:07:33.437Z","text":"这群是干活的，不是空谈的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82367f060034d5fb045a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q970c99bd069d5e2378d5","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":244,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-04T14:07:55.740Z","text":"我也同意自诉，但是前提是要规避自诉陷阱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q970c99bd069d5e2378d5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q43a1f343bb65d3b77c24","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":245,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-04T14:08:07.420Z","text":"在没有这个前提下，咋搞黄","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43a1f343bb65d3b77c24","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q1f5533e0f11ce7c7ce74","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":246,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-04T14:08:32.440Z","text":"无论出于什么目的，想成名也好，想娶媳妇也好，想拿回钱保护财产也好，自诉人都一直在行动","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f5533e0f11ce7c7ce74","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qea10973857d8f88d6281","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":247,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-04T14:08:47.681Z","text":"没人有时间和你谈逻辑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea10973857d8f88d6281","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q7c34b28a4ccded3e1c56","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":248,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-04T14:11:12.161Z","text":"你说自诉对郭好坏，这群里估计很少人关心。大家都是按照自己的想法出发，到达自己的目的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c34b28a4ccded3e1c56","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qaefe12acbf90ed4ebecd","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":249,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-04T14:12:10.906Z","text":"就这个意思吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaefe12acbf90ed4ebecd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q90723e2052a9cd29221e","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":250,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-04T14:12:33.213Z","text":"之前有人还来说，如果郭需要自诉人救，他还能灭共吗？这句话，反过来，如果郭能被自诉人灭掉，他还能灭共吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90723e2052a9cd29221e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q68e17e0eeaa90cc8166f","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":251,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-12-04T14:26:38.262Z","text":"https://x.com/baoguangtv/status/1996577120668279205?s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68e17e0eeaa90cc8166f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q4733d310fbabd400367b","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":252,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-04T14:46:21.461Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge3/status/1996591830402748805?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4733d310fbabd400367b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qe59153d35a2c821e91e8","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":253,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-12-04T14:53:06.693Z","text":"［用户 hah***］ 文悦同志的总结\n\n一句话总结：
螺丝哥不是来救郭的，他是来收割最后一批郭粉的镰刀。
墙内战友看到他立刻退群、取关、断联，保命要紧。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe59153d35a2c821e91e8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q13df40109306c6dae1fb","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":254,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-04T14:53:58.216Z","text":"好大力同志要开始为墙内的人把脉了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe59153d35a2c821e91e8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13df40109306c6dae1fb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe59153d35a2c821e91e8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q33b8a7444bc33ab2401d","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":255,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-12-04T14:54:32.653Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 文悦同志的总结\n一句话总结：
螺丝哥不是来救郭的，他是来收割最后一批郭粉的镰刀。
墙内战友看到他立刻退群、取关、断联，保命要紧。\n你们谁觉得文悦说得有道理，赶快去找文悦同志。跟着文悦，不踩自诉陷阱。我支持你们。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q33b8a7444bc33ab2401d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q60643ef4bfcc09cb3aed","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":256,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-04T15:00:54.772Z","text":"没收程序60天都结束了，文悦还在担心什么","edited":false,"reply_to":"q38f472446cab7b24d71b","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60643ef4bfcc09cb3aed","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q73f14d87c7293752544a","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":257,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-04T15:01:24.600Z","text":"担心现在有人引用CVRA发动议去法庭？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73f14d87c7293752544a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q36afcf5b60111debafad","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":258,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-04T15:08:46.709Z","text":"这个就是考验你的良心了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36afcf5b60111debafad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qc9cfe2c8b9b0894855e1","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":259,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-04T15:11:50.434Z","text":"我根据你的话，复述了一下。你说是不是这个意思","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8f6acba6226082efd910","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9cfe2c8b9b0894855e1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qfbe6017465ff293053bb","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":260,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-04T15:13:10.464Z","text":"可以说一下，我的解释对不对","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfbe6017465ff293053bb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q504d0d89fae08a2ab0b2","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":261,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-04T15:14:02.234Z","text":"能不能回应一下，你自己说的话呢","edited":false,"reply_to":"q054debf93fc689fdeeb4","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q504d0d89fae08a2ab0b2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q13a0c9399951de9bddcc","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":262,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-12-04T15:14:56.363Z","text":"你两真是吃饱撑的和他解释","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13a0c9399951de9bddcc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q290d64ed1be056e14e7b","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":263,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-04T15:15:40.686Z","text":"［用户 chu***］ 你对你自己说的话，都不敢回应吗","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q290d64ed1be056e14e7b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q52df30cf859826ade46f","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":264,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-04T15:18:20.771Z","text":"你这个没有卵蛋的家伙，不敢回应你自己的话吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52df30cf859826ade46f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qb202b55373dbbb3b7599","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":265,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-04T15:20:41.611Z","text":"你能不能对你说的话，我复述的意思，进行一个点评","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2dc55843c1b9daeb51b2","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb202b55373dbbb3b7599","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q247e52165e3e25b16098","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":266,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-04T15:21:03.966Z","text":"不要转移话题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q247e52165e3e25b16098","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q2d2358eb804e9ac98283","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":267,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-04T15:23:18.464Z","text":"因为你这句话出现的频率非常高","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d2358eb804e9ac98283","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q6399d25b0e486225d1db","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":268,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-04T15:23:57.451Z","text":"你对其他人的PUA，也经常使用","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6399d25b0e486225d1db","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q48074c9142bd2b9e09ac","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":269,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-04T15:24:28.625Z","text":"所以，你点评点评我的复述","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q48074c9142bd2b9e09ac","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qd2c8551759dd9cb0199c","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":270,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-04T15:25:40.733Z","text":"是不是这个意思，反正那么多人[屏蔽词]了，我也上去蹭一蹭","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2c8551759dd9cb0199c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q943c3248c29911423417","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":271,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-04T15:31:27.112Z","text":"怎么的，就你的宣传用语，你也不敢回应了。你个怂包蛋，有种也上去蹭蹭啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q943c3248c29911423417","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qeb9ed1d00958fa8f0b22","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":272,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-04T15:42:39.666Z","text":"看你们的吹捧，还有年薪百万的算法工程师，拉出来练练呗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb9ed1d00958fa8f0b22","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q8f609ee519a365de2ee5","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":273,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-04T15:44:15.668Z","text":"我不是什么算法工程师，也没有搞底层的开发","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f609ee519a365de2ee5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qa59036fff717fc7c6e14","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":274,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-04T15:44:42.304Z","text":"就是一个普通的开发人员","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa59036fff717fc7c6e14","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q4e4a8d4367ca02f8c593","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":275,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-04T15:47:26.537Z","text":"你解读一下，你自已说的话","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbd5ef7a6add9f884019a","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions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人不是带任务。唯一的解释就是心理极其变态,可能是太爱它七哥导致的。你说有自诉陷阱，给你七哥捅刀子，别人不认可不理你，有人回应你，然后你骂人，然后更没人理你，你就利用这里不限制言论天天在这里骂人，哪有人这么无聊，因为别人不同意它的观点就一直骂人的，除了心理变态没法解释。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q90723e2052a9cd29221e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55df35702bc5d5a25b91","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90723e2052a9cd29221e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q010145554f8432c623da","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":288,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-04T23:16:45.674Z","text":"他绝对不是心理变态，这么简单","edited":false,"reply_to":"q55df35702bc5d5a25b91","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q010145554f8432c623da","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55df35702bc5d5a25b91","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q5e84b7f3242458796a9e","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":289,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-04T23:31:09.291Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge3/status/1996723838026174721?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e84b7f3242458796a9e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qc7840e57218c7f54e4c1","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":290,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2025-12-05T00:24:00.207Z","text":"769 770","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7840e57218c7f54e4c1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qc005e26abf223f681863","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":291,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-05T00:24:48.847Z","text":"769好像是听证会！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc005e26abf223f681863","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q5ff2db229a7e114635e0","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":292,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-05T00:25:01.675Z","text":"什么听证呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ff2db229a7e114635e0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qec7769b754b1035be5ed","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":293,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-05T00:36:37.010Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 770是啥","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec7769b754b1035be5ed","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q23b7f29e445195090e99","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":294,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-05T00:37:27.707Z","text":"是不是法官先踢皮球，让检查方表态呀？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q67c677f1eb1f83af8528","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23b7f29e445195090e99","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q6dc13d952112a5966929","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":295,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-05T00:38:06.079Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q23b7f29e445195090e99","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6dc13d952112a5966929","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23b7f29e445195090e99","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q342d0115952b43be4f45","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":296,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-05T00:39:21.345Z","text":"哈哈，俺现在也能看出点门道了哈。\n一般情况法官是怎样处理的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6dc13d952112a5966929","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q342d0115952b43be4f45","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6dc13d952112a5966929","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qd239d9746440542484db","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":297,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-05T00:39:49.001Z","text":"她延期过这么多次 法官有裁量权 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他们又把文件偷出来？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67f4f2c9a98134a1c6f8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q4d6e163616ced6efff61","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":317,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-05T00:48:17.659Z","text":"估计是立案了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d6e163616ced6efff61","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q970df995569b1eb43d66","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":318,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-05T00:49:00.121Z","text":"是不是他申请那个ifp 不敢欺负穷人🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4d6e163616ced6efff61","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q970df995569b1eb43d66","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d6e163616ced6efff61","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q77c3f28763996dbc92ab","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":319,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-05T00:49:35.936Z","text":"不知道。早知道我也申请IFP. 😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77c3f28763996dbc92ab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qfd50b28a6757c93eeb61","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":320,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-05T00:49:40.300Z","text":"哈哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd50b28a6757c93eeb61","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q969d14f88275c0d4aba9","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":321,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-05T00:49:48.651Z","text":"你下周四最高法立案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q969d14f88275c0d4aba9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qcd8fe41e5fcd47df30ec","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":322,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-05T00:50:19.247Z","text":"I 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It will be exciting. 😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q969d14f88275c0d4aba9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd8fe41e5fcd47df30ec","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q969d14f88275c0d4aba9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q4078cbeb280b385ad41e","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":323,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-05T00:51:01.324Z","text":"托雷斯宁愿我们二巡一个一个上","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4078cbeb280b385ad41e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q3075cf0c9e1f895efdca","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":324,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-05T00:51:07.117Z","text":"也不愿意放出来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3075cf0c9e1f895efdca","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qc6e4986dfa9cf1ae6348","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":325,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-05T00:51:53.361Z","text":"我的深水炸弹制作进程50%","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6e4986dfa9cf1ae6348","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q872b79f556e892884589","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":326,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-05T00:53:04.211Z","text":"这一次是美国历史上第一次由第三方推动推翻案件的司法事件","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q872b79f556e892884589","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q5980d4a6d8fefd80ad85","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":327,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-05T00:53:50.078Z","text":"［用户 ntp***］ 还睡？ 😄","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5980d4a6d8fefd80ad85","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q4b121166c104ab3a61b0","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":328,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-05T00:54:20.487Z","text":"平民搅屎棍太多了。你我他！🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q872b79f556e892884589","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b121166c104ab3a61b0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q872b79f556e892884589","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qb50d2e82348eb6933f4b","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":329,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-05T00:59:18.258Z","text":"什么时候完工呀？\n要不要文悦来帮忙？\n它也是一个搅屎掍。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc6e4986dfa9cf1ae6348","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb50d2e82348eb6933f4b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6e4986dfa9cf1ae6348","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q008400259875948ae0b4","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":330,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-05T01:00:45.682Z","text":"下周","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q008400259875948ae0b4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q6c56c892d6195c6903a9","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":331,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-05T01:04:37.433Z","text":"说说看","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c56c892d6195c6903a9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qb5b3300ca07d93cf15c2","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":332,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-05T01:05:17.204Z","text":"二巡立案了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc0a58c071acf0002f644","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5b3300ca07d93cf15c2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0a58c071acf0002f644","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qc60fe1d307654326cb39","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":333,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-05T01:05:33.813Z","text":"只有立案南区才会上传","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc60fe1d307654326cb39","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qd99968d359185a087c69","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":334,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2025-12-05T01:06:20.294Z","text":"南区上传的是涂黑版？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd99968d359185a087c69","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q69e4fb453a16407b54aa","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":335,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-05T01:07:20.646Z","text":"Jason 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最主要的一点是他以前的动议都没被上传\n\n\n南区之所以上传，目的是告诉二巡，看看我给他入卷了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q879c4a6311e1719b7ab0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qe0020345f80939a4f914","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":363,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-05T01:30:57.511Z","text":"二巡和南区一样在立案上没有自由裁量权吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0020345f80939a4f914","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q7d3b6b210f87d777d3e6","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":364,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-12-05T01:31:34.969Z","text":"应该是在被告这边的民事附属程序里进入程序的人去二巡会被立案，如果没有进入程序，好像就是不给立案，不知道是依据什么标准，可以查一下。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d3b6b210f87d777d3e6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q244d230b06bf1be4db49","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":365,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-05T01:31:36.596Z","text":"引用了Ryan 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推翻 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