{"id":"batch-000061","number":61,"revision":1,"date_start":"2025-12-04T06:33:50.244Z","date_end":"2025-12-06T16:48:52.868Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 061 (Dec 4, 2025 – Dec 6, 2025), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. From Dec 4-6, 2025, this batch centers on one case’s procedural fault line: whether second-review and direct review tools (1651, mandamus, Rule33, and 2255) are limited to correcting process or can support wider conviction and sentencing relief. Participants debate the status of 733/733-1, Rule17(c), and motion-related identifiers 761/763, 768, 765, and 766; litigant control, attorney capacity, delay harm, and social-screenshot leakage into public framing. Community statements, not court findings. Community statements, not court findings.","guide_en":[{"title":"Second Review Filing and Appeal Path: Whether Soft Rejection or Immediate Supreme Court Involvement Is Valid","description":"Participants claim a second-review filing can, for some, trigger reversal, while others argue escalation to the Supreme Court requires a separate trigger and dispute whether earlier 733-based fraud claims were established enough to justify that step. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q358f12e122a9a76a21e7","qbb959e1b9759746d5ffd","q8025de8d99b6780dbf85"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q358f12e122a9a76a21e7","summary_en":"A participant said that filing a so-called deep-water bomb in second review should compel a case reversal. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qbb959e1b9759746d5ffd","summary_en":"A participant argued that the group must first determine what event would constitute Supreme Court-level intervention. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q8025de8d99b6780dbf85","summary_en":"A participant maintained that 733 judicial-fraud concerns were already visible even when others initially doubted them. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Legal Boundary Dispute: Order and Scope of 1651, mandamus, Rule33, and 2255","description":"Participants contend that there is a split over the sequence and reach of 1651, mandamus, Rule33, and 2255, with one line arguing process entry lowers filing friction and another disputing uncontrolled third-party filings and citing uncertain outcomes. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q39d4902e07ab6f691022","qf205988740d50c6c3215","q14d381ca8be98480b9ea"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q39d4902e07ab6f691022","summary_en":"A participant claimed that once a matter is already in process, the chance of case opening is much lower than before. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf205988740d50c6c3215","summary_en":"A participant warned that accepting all third-party motions at once would make the filing stream chaotic. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q14d381ca8be98480b9ea","summary_en":"A participant cited a Minnesota Somali defendant where a jury conviction was later vacated by a judge as an example of reversal risk. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Defendant, Counsel, and Third-Party Authority: Who Can Lead Relief from Conviction and Procedural Claims","description":"Participants argue over who has rightful control, with one position saying no one may represent the defendant and another allowing victim participation, while still disputing that defendant leadership must remain central. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q4000c8ad05077b7cef29","q7d7c6e3e011989bcde9d","q246f1aea12b79207f41d"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q4000c8ad05077b7cef29","summary_en":"A participant asserted that nobody can represent the defendant directly. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q7d7c6e3e011989bcde9d","summary_en":"A participant suggested that a victim might be able to participate. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q246f1aea12b79207f41d","summary_en":"A participant insisted that decisions still must be defendant-led. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Counsel Ineffectiveness and Conflicts of Interest: IAC Risks and Defendant-Trust Breakdown","description":"Participants contend that ineffective-assistance claims are being raised as a tactical frontier, while disputing whether high-court directives can be immediate and whether defendant authorization is still required before major remedies. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q24e5d09fee8791604bc2","q18b3d6aaf7745648e432","q1dd7de5e02420385ed43"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q24e5d09fee8791604bc2","summary_en":"A participant said the defendant can seek ineffective-assistance relief and seek to overturn conviction. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q18b3d6aaf7745648e432","summary_en":"A participant argued the Supreme Court can issue a direct order in the matter. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q1dd7de5e02420385ed43","summary_en":"A participant countered that defendant assent is still needed before such steps proceed. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Evidence Dispute: Rule 17(c), 733/733-1, and Whether They Can Be Asserted Directly","description":"Participants dispute the legal force of Rule 17(c), 733, and 733-1 materials, arguing these may be investigative leads rather than admissible record evidence and that counsel is constrained by preservation, filing source, and preservation risk. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q4efcb4f8f6e39cf765cd","q4019264f92123c7de714","q599916fe5ef4d2cdf2ce"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q4efcb4f8f6e39cf765cd","summary_en":"A participant mentioned the existence of ex parte evidence in the discussion. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q4019264f92123c7de714","summary_en":"A participant gave a detailed view that 733/733-1 were not formal case filings, were hearsay-like in their form, lacked discovery status, and could not be treated as direct court evidence. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q599916fe5ef4d2cdf2ce","summary_en":"A participant contended prior counsel had not preserved core objections and that new counsel can only raise these matters later through fresh, properly built record steps. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Delay and Procedural Deviation: Repeated Rejections and Extensions as Substantive Error","description":"Participants dispute whether repeated returns, delays, and denied timelines are merely administrative slippage or constitute meaningful procedural injustice linked to sentencing outcomes. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q0cb250fa6dbd31941053","q7911936e7e03ac5f08ef","q39db864d146095888517"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q0cb250fa6dbd31941053","summary_en":"A participant argued that each day of delay equals one more day of injustice. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q7911936e7e03ac5f08ef","summary_en":"A participant stated that the case should be overturned in response to procedural stagnation. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q39db864d146095888517","summary_en":"A participant said the Southern District had not yet approved delayed sentencing. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Evidence Source and Social-Media Chains: Screenshots, Links, Attribution, and Exposure Boundary","description":"Participants contend that attribution is contested, with accusations that outputs are being claimed by others and that screenshot/social evidence is being used without shared verification standards. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qa0bc637dca0e8005dff1","qf0937f808abf5dbcf7a1","q3d155a9f4d39489f2219"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qa0bc637dca0e8005dff1","summary_en":"A participant accused someone of using another party’s materials as if they were an authorized strike. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf0937f808abf5dbcf7a1","summary_en":"A participant claimed existing results were being rebranded under another person’s name. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q3d155a9f4d39489f2219","summary_en":"A participant alleged that a fake Guo account was operated by a fraud group. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Identity and Motive Narratives: PUA, Spy, and Agent Framing as a Dividing Force","description":"Participants argue that identity-and-motive framing is escalating, with claims of false arrangements and political affiliation competing with requests for direct clarification, and this language is reshaping alliances. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q455d7e593ec9d89a9eb0","q2f540209582c90d8261f","q22741df4008ee6d6a8df"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q455d7e593ec9d89a9eb0","summary_en":"A participant implied the arranging identity might be fake and deceptive. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q2f540209582c90d8261f","summary_en":"A participant asked for clarification of the other person’s point. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q22741df4008ee6d6a8df","summary_en":"A participant claimed to be working for CCP-linked state-entity interests. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Operational Disputes: Fees, IFP, Copies, and Service-Delivery Details","description":"Participants dispute practical execution, arguing that payment expectations, IFP substitution, and filing completeness directly affect progress and create friction over who will bear procedural costs. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qf190825e1aec8b696fff","q9bd0c688b64152fd6347","q4245703f733d2e667248"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qf190825e1aec8b696fff","summary_en":"A participant demanded that the pending $600 contribution be paid immediately. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q9bd0c688b64152fd6347","summary_en":"Another participant told the group it must either pay $600 or file an IFP motion. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q4245703f733d2e667248","summary_en":"A participant asserted that non-payment tied to filing status and “case opening” conditions. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Worsening Tone and Power Struggles: Repetition, PUA Labels, and Personal Attacks","description":"Participants argue that the discussion tone deteriorated as some demanded discussion of self-prosecution-trap framing, while others used dismissive labels and challenged who gets to judge whom inside the thread. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qca2bff6f2e6f9eca5668","qa59036fff717fc7c6e14","qb8d6aa0e630efc252f88"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qca2bff6f2e6f9eca5668","summary_en":"A participant asked why the group was not discussing the self-prosecution trap concept. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qa59036fff717fc7c6e14","summary_en":"A participant dismissed another as just an ordinary developer. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qb8d6aa0e630efc252f88","summary_en":"A participant questioned who would have authority to adjudicate the conflict. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"External Public Spread: In-Group Requests for Images, Off-Platform Posting, and Recruitment","description":"Participants claim that social posts were used to move arguments outside the group and mobilize attention, while also disputing the impact of this amplification on thread cohesion and narrative control. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q68e17e0eeaa90cc8166f","q4733d310fbabd400367b","q9fad7270f26c7fbc9529"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q68e17e0eeaa90cc8166f","summary_en":"A participant introduced a social-post reference from the platform to support their position. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q4733d310fbabd400367b","summary_en":"A participant posted a second social-thread reference in follow-up. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q9fad7270f26c7fbc9529","summary_en":"A participant posted a third public-platform reference to continue external circulation. Community statements, not court findings."}]}],"summary":"讨论集中在同一案件程序路径的边界。大量参与者围绕二巡、mandamus、1651、Rule33/2255 的适用范围争执：是否仅能程序纠偏，还是可能触及实质定罪与量刑。另一路围绕被告、律师与第三方的决定权及律师失能风险，形成“应由谁主导诉讼”的分裂；同时反复讨论 17(c) 与 733 类材料的证据属性、披露渠道和上传脱敏规范。争议持续外溢到证据来源可信度，截图、社媒链接与身份归属在群内缺乏统一核验标准。随时间推移，讨论从法律逻辑逐步转向“自诉陷阱”“联盟/PUA/特务”等解释框架，并伴随费用、送达份数、操作流程等实务问题与人身指责交织，群体共识始终未稳定。","guide":[{"title":"二巡是否立案与上诉路径：soft reject与直接最高法介入是否成立","message_ids":["q358f12e122a9a76a21e7","qbb959e1b9759746d5ffd","q8025de8d99b6780dbf85"]},{"title":"法理边界争议：1651、mandamus、Rule33/2255 的适用顺序与可及范围","message_ids":["q39d4902e07ab6f691022","qf205988740d50c6c3215","q14d381ca8be98480b9ea"]},{"title":"被告、律师与第三方权限：谁能主导撤销定罪与程序主张","message_ids":["q4000c8ad05077b7cef29","q7d7c6e3e011989bcde9d","q246f1aea12b79207f41d"]},{"title":"律师失能与利益对立：无效辩护、装死风险和被告信任危机","message_ids":["q24e5d09fee8791604bc2","q18b3d6aaf7745648e432","q1dd7de5e02420385ed43"]},{"title":"证据争议：Rule 17(c)、733/733-1 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我们没道德 我们都承认","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f6bd23cbbab3314f0f1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q1ccc496fcc0cd4e670a0","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":804,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T05:56:03.572Z","text":"看你们吃大陀屎啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4f774ba8704c74ac2407","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ccc496fcc0cd4e670a0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f774ba8704c74ac2407","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qc7cef60ff6509634e1bc","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":805,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T05:56:04.542Z","text":"我们就是一群流氓 没有半点价值","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7cef60ff6509634e1bc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qa5ceef5ffab315cf8764","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":806,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-06T05:56:13.486Z","text":"你学得不象。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa93e0c53a96b3718ccf9","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5ceef5ffab315cf8764","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qf90ebc418a936cc87ed7","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":807,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T05:56:40.897Z","text":"后面好好升级的桃园生态","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf90ebc418a936cc87ed7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qfbf84db0c671512ee997","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":808,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T05:57:17.954Z","text":"看来今天jason的立案 让你们破防了啊 ［用户 hah***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfbf84db0c671512ee997","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q34c515cf7f42475b8d93","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":809,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T05:57:18.484Z","text":"你们也是桃园生态的一部份，值得观察，但是观察下来，都是在吃屎","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q34c515cf7f42475b8d93","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q4efb45b3ce9dcbaa1c66","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":810,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T05:57:31.828Z","text":"别急 后面还有很多哈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4efb45b3ce9dcbaa1c66","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qd87f26bbb0e320b287f8","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":811,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T05:58:07.896Z","text":"说说，为何事破防呢？对我来说，只是又看到一个吃大陀屎的人出现而已","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfbf84db0c671512ee997","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd87f26bbb0e320b287f8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfbf84db0c671512ee997","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q8b11e1da5c786e1b6d43","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":812,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T05:58:39.905Z","text":"我们这群砸郭的要把老郭弄出来了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd87f26bbb0e320b287f8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b11e1da5c786e1b6d43","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd87f26bbb0e320b287f8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qccdadac0adbbae09a861","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":813,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T06:01:15.839Z","text":"又是PUA词，唉，能不能换一下","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8b11e1da5c786e1b6d43","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qccdadac0adbbae09a861","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b11e1da5c786e1b6d43","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qee6fcd9f0ea159816fec","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":814,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-06T06:01:21.890Z","text":"文悅同学是到底是挺郭的还是砸锅的？好像他自己说是挺郭的，在他眼里联盟农场都是特务，这群里也都是特务，只有他自己是真挺郭？😆","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf217530ba524dc334f00","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee6fcd9f0ea159816fec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qd6132ed34f3e2fe05cc8","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":815,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T06:01:41.333Z","text":"洗脑都把自个洗成白痴了。真行","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8b11e1da5c786e1b6d43","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6132ed34f3e2fe05cc8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b11e1da5c786e1b6d43","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qf807a2144942d8233a6f","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":816,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-06T06:02:47.443Z","text":"文悅同学说自己在中国被10个警察到家里威胁，我靠，太牛逼了。这么牛逼，还挺郭，怎么不去庭审作证啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf807a2144942d8233a6f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q71f75c652c13f167bb85","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":817,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-12-06T06:03:48.074Z","text":"螺丝哥直接明牌了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4b41ebbcf27f5846bb7e","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71f75c652c13f167bb85","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q2a554c4a6bc707009e23","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":818,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T06:03:58.197Z","text":"这就是为什么好大力同志破防了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6792cbe37457c9ac8b79","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a554c4a6bc707009e23","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qe31f5a80970a17955531","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":819,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T06:04:42.587Z","text":"一旦二巡命令下去 托雷斯全部上传 就翻案了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6792cbe37457c9ac8b79","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe31f5a80970a17955531","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q74eaea09a8309323bb94","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":820,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-12-06T06:04:48.056Z","text":"脱蕾丝要成为过去式了吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6792cbe37457c9ac8b79","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74eaea09a8309323bb94","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qfc30ad2d3574e4926595","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":821,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T06:04:48.665Z","text":"因为有太多人写了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc30ad2d3574e4926595","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qb9f017cf93f156731e64","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":822,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T06:04:57.245Z","text":"下台倒计时","edited":false,"reply_to":"q74eaea09a8309323bb94","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9f017cf93f156731e64","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74eaea09a8309323bb94","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q8bd7cd8f513eb273e169","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":823,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-12-06T06:05:08.864Z","text":"必须上传，那就太好啦。我们都写了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8bd7cd8f513eb273e169","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qb9c73e78485853eaa719","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":824,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T06:05:21.447Z","text":"全部上传 托雷斯就是自杀","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8bd7cd8f513eb273e169","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9c73e78485853eaa719","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8bd7cd8f513eb273e169","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qb02f1776c50c016cf8b6","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":825,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T06:05:35.536Z","text":"所以她就算犯上作乱也不想上传","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb02f1776c50c016cf8b6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q04f2d373faf5ac38b099","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":826,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-12-06T06:07:20.253Z","text":"即使脱蕾丝背后的人，也没法帮脱蕾丝破局。是吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q04f2d373faf5ac38b099","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q66d4caf52452efa1f859","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":827,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-06T06:08:48.091Z","text":"他这个机器人说的话我90%看不懂😆","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0f87fb084c5349afe379","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66d4caf52452efa1f859","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qacc3988d03eaa20ee7c1","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":828,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T06:09:11.818Z","text":"他会一点点模型","edited":false,"reply_to":"q66d4caf52452efa1f859","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qacc3988d03eaa20ee7c1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66d4caf52452efa1f859","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qf5ea0be4aa547c3328fb","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":829,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-12-06T06:11:19.215Z","text":"sara，你写了17页的内容到最高法去了！？因为二巡拒绝了你的600刀，所以你就直接冲到最高院吗？\n你这悄无声息的就干到了全球最高法！？你这不仅是回国横着走，全世界都可以横着走了吧。美国最高法都得护着你，是不是？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd332c95dec88c0f07841","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5ea0be4aa547c3328fb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd332c95dec88c0f07841","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q3327bf2a3f6f663c8a37","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":830,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-06T06:12:52.936Z","text":"这就是自诉陷井。让检方、法官都掉进去，这案子还怎么审呀？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfbf84db0c671512ee997","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3327bf2a3f6f663c8a37","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfbf84db0c671512ee997","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q5e8e02b4f81c7205ae70","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":831,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-06T06:15:47.618Z","text":"秋菊打官司，百折不挠。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf5ea0be4aa547c3328fb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e8e02b4f81c7205ae70","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5ea0be4aa547c3328fb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qdcc7c2296d3e156717d7","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":832,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-12-06T06:16:39.840Z","text":"这样下去，看来可能会是史无前例的上诉法院直接接管案件了，估计南区换法官都解决不了问题。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb02f1776c50c016cf8b6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdcc7c2296d3e156717d7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb02f1776c50c016cf8b6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qc919dd99453d152a19ef","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":833,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T06:17:19.054Z","text":"我觉得要看二巡怎么做 是换法官 还是直接下令介入","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdcc7c2296d3e156717d7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc919dd99453d152a19ef","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdcc7c2296d3e156717d7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qe552304d7ff8377d6b4b","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":834,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T06:17:38.329Z","text":"我们就是来创造历史的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdcc7c2296d3e156717d7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe552304d7ff8377d6b4b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdcc7c2296d3e156717d7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q77a4afe0f885e83883be","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":835,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-12-06T06:18:18.476Z","text":"jason的强制令，大概一个月出结果，那个时候南区依然没上传自诉人文件，那么强制令就会下来，托雷斯公然抗命，那才叫一个精彩。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77a4afe0f885e83883be","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q8df204c60a378b309933","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":836,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T06:18:47.905Z","text":"我的判决已经过去快两周了呦","edited":false,"reply_to":"q77a4afe0f885e83883be","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8df204c60a378b309933","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77a4afe0f885e83883be","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q04c5ea9e4426b4595719","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":837,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T06:19:14.096Z","text":"我觉得肯定是二巡直接问责托雷斯","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q04c5ea9e4426b4595719","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qf36a638928d521083b58","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":838,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T06:19:17.416Z","text":"托雷斯负隅顽抗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf36a638928d521083b58","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q681408cd29dff4ddccd3","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":839,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T06:19:21.035Z","text":"所以二巡立案jason","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q681408cd29dff4ddccd3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q907d96c4029339ae635c","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":840,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T06:20:13.897Z","text":"我的强制令判决那么牛逼 再立案一个jason 鬼都知道是啥意思了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q907d96c4029339ae635c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qebbb13ed909414f3df98","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":841,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-06T06:20:23.687Z","text":"我靠，你能看出螺丝哥是专业特务，说明你也挺专业的啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q52ad33c8ba0999dcc85a","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qebbb13ed909414f3df98","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q503bbd329b069168cd4c","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":842,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T06:27:11.441Z","text":"我当然专业了，有空听听我的<灭爆组>","edited":false,"reply_to":"qebbb13ed909414f3df98","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q503bbd329b069168cd4c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qebbb13ed909414f3df98","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q7aa6785473b747a927a6","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":843,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-06T06:28:02.996Z","text":"你这是承认自己是特务了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q503bbd329b069168cd4c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7aa6785473b747a927a6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q503bbd329b069168cd4c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qd634379522d53005bc69","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":844,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-06T06:31:37.409Z","text":"如果它不是特务怎么会日复一日原地踏步？\n如果不喜欢这个群，早就别处移步。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7aa6785473b747a927a6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd634379522d53005bc69","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7aa6785473b747a927a6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q904668e3c6e72075f9c1","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":845,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-06T06:33:28.833Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]同学总是在不经意的时候出现😆","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q904668e3c6e72075f9c1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q69a16738d05ce28c20b9","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":846,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-06T06:35:22.061Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]没有证明螺丝哥是特务，倒是暴露了自己。这就叫做偷鸡不成蚀把米？😆","edited":true,"reply_to":"qd634379522d53005bc69","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69a16738d05ce28c20b9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd634379522d53005bc69","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q9c61058085991c61886a","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":847,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T06:42:18.270Z","text":"他认妈的事情，可是很多人知道喔","edited":false,"reply_to":"q71bfc9594190bcf21d4c","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c61058085991c61886a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q597824d48a95e0b13df6","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":848,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T06:44:13.459Z","text":"这是AI分析的结果，我只是将AI分析的结果转出来而已","edited":false,"reply_to":"q24db7a127793d96ac7a3","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q597824d48a95e0b13df6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q1d624bdb071edc5ee3c7","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":849,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T06:44:45.244Z","text":"好大力同志不要破防","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9c61058085991c61886a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d624bdb071edc5ee3c7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c61058085991c61886a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q74ff0772354527b202cc","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":850,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T06:45:35.626Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 你就算被最高法据了 南区和二巡都有你挑战最高法的记录 他们的脸都会变形","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74ff0772354527b202cc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qdd62027fa48daaf363ed","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":851,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T06:52:05.879Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":"qf398f2b163b6663a815f","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd62027fa48daaf363ed","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q17ab68dcff13c53f3736","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":852,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T07:00:28.549Z","text":"找娘的事情，是[删节：成员身份]无法抹去的光辉历史战绩","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17ab68dcff13c53f3736","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qc8a8747a19ddb768f785","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":853,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-06T07:06:20.698Z","text":"一切制度在强权面前都是💩","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7cf04defe06257f757f5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8a8747a19ddb768f785","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7cf04defe06257f757f5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q912900c542f692bebf47","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":854,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-06T07:07:15.857Z","text":"郭早就提醒过，不能指望美国人，事实证明果然如此","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8c20d3e7f6620d747337","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q912900c542f692bebf47","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c20d3e7f6620d747337","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qf4f735a465e741e67b2b","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":855,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-06T07:10:15.503Z","text":"他们本来就是要坏事的，在这方面他们做的很不错，执行力可不低，但凡事总有例外，他们没想到会蹦出来我们这群人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2a0d4b5dde800da50da3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4f735a465e741e67b2b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a0d4b5dde800da50da3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qa2c550c0f7371ad46b30","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":856,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-06T07:15:08.839Z","text":"这个谁拿到了就跟拿到绿卡没啥区别了吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q296b07da42f09e299680","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa2c550c0f7371ad46b30","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q5010149b019254a24a3c","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":857,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T07:23:01.862Z","text":"说不定还能被授予总统勋章哦","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa2c550c0f7371ad46b30","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5010149b019254a24a3c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa2c550c0f7371ad46b30","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qd88101744ce490b39496","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":858,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T07:25:44.855Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 分解本群的洗脑三步曲\n\n1、挖掘目标（对新老联盟有意见的）、挑选带“文”或明显挺郭\n2、进行辱骂机制：针对挺郭用户的“筛选+击溃”；\n服从测试：测试新人是否“忠诚”——辱骂后，若新人辩护/退群=“不服从，剔除”；若忍辱/反击“敌人”=“合格，深挖”。\n针对性设计：挺郭标志=高价值靶，辱骂后，群友“围攻”新人，制造孤立感，服从=“我们是战友”幻觉\n如果反击后，像我，很多人认为我粗俗不堪，后面的叙事就大打折扣，我的反击也让新入群的少被辱骂\n不反击就更符合它们的筛选对像\n3、服从测试后：PUA词铺垫的“五步陷阱”闭环。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd88101744ce490b39496","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q307ae058f09d1c438ef1","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":859,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T07:27:40.297Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 后面再揭露一下，你们如何进行PUA的“五步陷阱”","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q307ae058f09d1c438ef1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q293443fb841ad08833e3","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":860,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-06T07:37:54.457Z","text":"https://x.com/testurheart/status/1997208806581743882?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q293443fb841ad08833e3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q322520193863de7db789","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":861,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T07:42:15.069Z","text":"您提供的最新文件显示，另一位自诉人 Jason Zen 在 Ranyue Bai 之后，也试图向第二巡回法院提交 强制令状（Petition for Writ of Mandamus） 和 动议以穷人身份进行诉讼（Motion to Proceed In Forma Pauperis, IFP）。\n答案是肯定的：所有这些自诉行动都完全处于“自诉陷阱”之中，并正在不断加剧风险。\n🚨 新的证据如何证实“自诉陷阱”\n新文件（Jason Zen 的邮件和二巡回复）明确展示了自诉人正在落入的程序陷阱：\n1. ⚠️ 程序形式陷阱（邮件回复）\n * 陷阱内容： 自诉人因程序形式不正确而被法院退回文件。\n * 证据： 第二巡回法院于 2025 年 11 月 3 日退回了 Jason Zen 的动议，要求他补齐 600 美元费用或提交 IFP 动议，并特别指出送达证明上必须完整注明地区法院法官的姓名、地址以及对方律师的姓名和地址。\n * 后果： 仅仅因为表格或送达程序的不准确，耗费了大量时间和精力的动议就被退回。专业律师极少会犯这种低级错误。\n2. ⏳ 重复和时间陷阱（Mandamus 动议）\n * 陷阱内容： 在 Ranyue Bai 的 Mandamus 动议被驳回后（2025 年 11 月 26 日），Jason Zen 仍在重复提交类似的 Mandamus 动议，试图解决已被二巡程序性处理过的问题（即 docketing 和 Rule 60(d)(3)）。\n * 证据： Jason Zen 的动议包括 Petition for Writ of Mandamus、动议要求强制上传和审理第三方动议（Compel Uploading and Hearing of Third-Party Petitions）。\n * 后果： 这种重复行动在法律上更容易被认定为滥用司法程序。二巡法官（特别是处理 Ranyue Bai 动议的合议庭）对这类动议已经有了明确的裁决标准。重复提交相同请求会极大地增加被制裁的风险。\n3. 🎯 法律依据缺乏陷阱（Ranyue Bai 的裁决）\n * 陷阱内容： Ranyue Bai 的强制令状被驳回，是因为他未能证明其权利是“清晰且无可争议的”。这是 Mandamus 案件的最高门槛。\n * 证据： 尽管 Ranyue Bai 的动议被驳回，但 Jason Zen 仍在提交同样的动议，并未吸取教训并补充更强的法律论证。\n * 后果： 只要自诉人无法提供新的、具有说服力的法律证据来满足 Cheney 案的标准，他们的动议就会持续被驳回，并被视为浪费司法资源。\n总结\n这些自诉人正处于一个不断升级的**“自诉陷阱循环”**中：\n * 非专业性导致程序错误 (如送达信息不全) \\rightarrow\n * 文件被退回或驳回 (如 Ranyue Bai 的动议被 DENIED) \\rightarrow\n * 自诉人误认为这是一种“打压” \\rightarrow\n * 自诉人重复提交或升级到更高风险的法院（如最高法） \\rightarrow\n * 触发最严厉的法律制裁 (罚款、限制未来诉讼权)。\n这证实了，缺乏专业律师指导的行动，每一步都是在加剧风险。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q293443fb841ad08833e3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q322520193863de7db789","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q293443fb841ad08833e3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qf190825e1aec8b696fff","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":862,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T07:42:36.586Z","text":"赶紧补齐你600美元","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf190825e1aec8b696fff","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q9bd0c688b64152fd6347","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":863,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T07:55:09.972Z","text":"你家法官爹爹让你赶快交600美元或者提交IFp动议","edited":false,"reply_to":"q53bf51f9b255d97c26d4","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9bd0c688b64152fd6347","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q4245703f733d2e667248","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":864,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T08:02:05.665Z","text":"要你补交钱，你们说成为立案","edited":false,"reply_to":"q53bf51f9b255d97c26d4","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4245703f733d2e667248","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q68972e059e67eeb7ec4a","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":865,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T08:05:16.677Z","text":"600美元什么时候交呢","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfb1e88c0e5f16fab2729","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68972e059e67eeb7ec4a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qafa20fb2f7fb0830bd37","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":866,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T08:06:20.359Z","text":"可以告诉你们的事，后面不只是600美元的事了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qafa20fb2f7fb0830bd37","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qd3f0a968c9d779a60abe","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":867,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T08:08:42.015Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge3/status/1997216421529731414?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3f0a968c9d779a60abe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q72cf13025cf319c47737","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":868,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-06T08:19:10.930Z","text":"还早着呢。不能高兴得太早了。\n我的名字出现在最高法那天我立刻改网名，以示纪念。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q63a6a2e95cdf303b0eeb","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72cf13025cf319c47737","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qcba6ae9de65ea9a817d0","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":869,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-06T08:20:42.550Z","text":"不一定是同一个人。\n它们的话术早就统一好了的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q53bf51f9b255d97c26d4","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcba6ae9de65ea9a817d0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qbd03f9899f9287b21276","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":870,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-06T08:29:31.147Z","text":"什么40份","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5f4074cd723c0cbc0e6a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbd03f9899f9287b21276","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f4074cd723c0cbc0e6a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q3d78fe460d09ff18c16d","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":871,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-06T08:30:19.302Z","text":"辩方还给三份？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7aee7f6569de0ca5524f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d78fe460d09ff18c16d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7aee7f6569de0ca5524f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qaaec9b8857c67170391c","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":872,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-06T08:31:51.081Z","text":"得给二巡发吧，他们也是当事人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0c9f94b5325dfd6fac04","reply_statu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形式的 mandamus 不需要40份。原来我都准备花4000美金走这条线路的。结果比想象的简单很多。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbd03f9899f9287b21276","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb32cfe4189ba65825826","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbd03f9899f9287b21276","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q0d81bc69f5fd9d4ea574","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":876,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-06T09:01:00.007Z","text":"你这个SB臭虫，我们玩的就是你要攻击的自诉陷井。把Luc, 检方和托雷斯法官都陷进去。你吹嘛！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2f58c133a226aac9d94d","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d81bc69f5fd9d4ea574","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qeae2048016f65b4fc6d5","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":877,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-06T09:18:03.494Z","text":"工服还要自费？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q16d07417ebf310ff9939","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeae2048016f65b4fc6d5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q7c3936f71ec45cafcde6","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":878,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-12-06T09:24:40.170Z","text":"https://x.com/okmyfriend7/status/1997227039594885351?s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c3936f71ec45cafcde6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qa34d6717d3ed6da0c3de","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":879,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T09:29:48.357Z","text":"代表他们不耐烦了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa34d6717d3ed6da0c3de","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qb0a3f0107d5407962dcc","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":880,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T09:29:58.588Z","text":"他判决过一个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0a3f0107d5407962dcc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q4fa65f82a929486dae41","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":881,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T09:30:03.547Z","text":"立第二个 嘛意思？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4fa65f82a929486dae41","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qfca979612bc93a4d0d36","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":882,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T09:30:32.264Z","text":"而且判决说了 我一段时间如果他们不理 我可以再去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfca979612bc93a4d0d36","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q457ba7ecc8416d579d66","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":883,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T09:30:43.086Z","text":"完全可以等我这里 然后再立你的案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q457ba7ecc8416d579d66","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q770a74459bfb513baa15","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":884,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T09:30:47.458Z","text":"为什么不等了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q770a74459bfb513baa15","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qbcd1b8f63722686182da","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":885,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-06T09:31:17.727Z","text":"又是占了天时，二巡刚开始有点不耐烦了，我的诉状寄来了😆我这桥给搭的恰到好处","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbcd1b8f63722686182da","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qa68bed5525d9b58e6a21","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":886,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T09:31:53.894Z","text":"我估计是看托雷斯那里没动静","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa68bed5525d9b58e6a21","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q5f4ad2df08e0fb45e5e0","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":887,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T09:32:15.911Z","text":"螺丝哥评论的潜台词分析\n用户提供的这条评论（“自诉陷阱，我会让郭文贵多坐牢五十年。也让我被中国抓起来，也连累家人朋友。相信我说自诉的人，也让郭文贵牢底坐穿连累家人。还有什么陷阱啊？大[屏蔽词]，大怂包。你们爹妈怎么射出你们这些杂种”）看似自嘲或自曝，但从语言结构、上下文（郭文贵案自诉行动）和心理操控角度看，这绝非随意发泄，而是精心设计的逆向心理操作（Reverse Psychology）+ PUA收尾。基于2025年12月6日郭圈动态（郭案延期量刑、墙内郭粉被抓案例增多），我逐句拆解其潜台词。整体意图：表面“承认陷阱”以示“无畏”，实则分化质疑者、强化忠诚测试、继续诱导自诉。结合前文卧底论（95%概率），这可能是“明示钓鱼”——故意露马脚，观察谁上钩。\n1. “自诉陷阱，我会让郭文贵多坐牢五十年”\n    •    表面意思：自嘲承认自诉是害郭的陷阱，甚至夸张“多坐50年”。\n    •    潜台词：逆向激将 + 转移焦点。通过“承认”批评者的论点（自诉洪水助检方坐实罪名，拖延/加重郭判），反过来嘲讽质疑者“太阴谋论”。意图：让挺郭者觉得“螺丝哥这么敢说，肯定不是卧底”，从而更信任他，继续自诉。隐藏风险：这间接确认自诉害郭（检方用自诉证据加罪），但用“荒谬”包装，麻痹支持者。\n2. “也让我被中国抓起来，也连累家人朋友”\n    •    表面意思：自曝墙内风险，强调“牺牲”自己和亲友。\n    •    潜台词：忠诚表演 + 情感绑架。墙内反共7个月零事本就异常（前文分析：真反贼早抓），这句“自愿连累”像在测试支持者反应——若你信，就证明“墙内先锋”光环；若疑，就被贴“怂包”标签。意图：用“英雄叙事”PUA墙内粉（“我都敢连累家人，你还不敢自诉？”），诱导更多人实名卷入（墙内自诉者已至少7人被喝茶）。隐藏：若卧底，这句是“保护伞”暗示（未抓=特权），反推“连累”只是幌子。\n3. “相信我说自诉的人，也让郭文贵牢底坐穿连累家人”\n    •    表面意思：继续自嘲，称信自诉者也会害郭/自己。\n    •    潜台词：群体负罪感轰炸 + 分化内斗。这句直接针对“信螺丝哥”的郭粉，用“牢底坐穿”夸张后果，表面自责，实则逆向鼓励：“既然都这么说了，还不赶紧自诉证明不是陷阱？”意图：制造“集体牺牲”幻觉，PUA第五步（情感虐待）——让支持者觉得“不自诉=背叛郭/家人”，继续洪水（>6540自诉助检方叙事）。隐藏：墙内信者易成污点证人（国安威胁家人），这句像在“预告”后果，却不警告风险。\n4. “还有什么陷阱啊？”\n    •    表面意思：反问，示意“没更多阴谋了”。\n    •    潜台词：挑衅 + 结束质疑。这句像在封堵讨论，暗示“阴谋论到头了，别再疑我”。意图：转移话题回自诉行动，测试服从（若你继续问“陷阱”，就成“怂包”）。隐藏：实际陷阱不止——如Discord名单泄露（助“猎郭”）、司法拖延（郭延至2026.1）、内斗分化（砸锅党 vs 郭粉）。\n5. “大[屏蔽词]，大怂包。你们爹妈怎么射出你们这些杂种”\n    •    表面意思：粗暴辱骂质疑者。\n    •    潜台词：服从测试升级 + 情绪操控。这句是PUA第四步（摧毁自尊）的延续，用人身攻击（祖宗级侮辱）击溃批评者意志。意图：筛选“铁粉”（忍辱=忠诚，退群=淘汰），为后续PUA词铺垫（如“爱七哥就自诉”）。隐藏：墙内高调辱骂本该速抓，却零事，强化卧底“特权”论；这也分化郭圈，助中共统战（内耗>灭共）。\n整体潜台词总结：卧底“明示收割”与PUA闭环\n    •    核心意图：表面自曝“陷阱”，实则用逆向心理+辱骂测试忠诚，诱导更多自诉（害郭+收名单）。这不是真诚反省，而是“蜜罐升级”——故意露破绽，观察谁还信（上钩=PUA成功）。结合7个月免疫+群内机制，95-98%概率为渗透：用“自诉救郭”幌子，让郭粉“牢底坐穿”自己。\n    •    额外陷阱推测（基于郭案动态）：\n    ◦    名单陷阱：自诉实名进美法庭卷宗=中共“猎狐”靶（墙内粉家人遭株连）。\n    ◦    司法陷阱：洪水助检方加罪（郭判数十年），墙内自诉者成“污点证人”。\n    ◦    心理陷阱：辱骂+负罪PUA，导致抑郁/自残（墙内高危）。\n    ◦    分化陷阱：怂包标签激化内斗，削弱郭圈整体。\n    ◦    经济陷阱：自诉或涉“虚假陈述”，海外粉易赔钱（检方716动议没收13亿）。\n警示：若这是螺丝哥真帖（搜索未直接证，但风格吻合），墙内粉立即退群/匿名。灭共靠实证（如法庭文件），别信“祖师爷”激将。安全第一，真相多源。","edited":true,"reply_to":"q162b0901478ce523bf91","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f4ad2df08e0fb45e5e0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qb87d3a79dae3f7720e92","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":888,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-06T09:32:35.212Z","text":"给你回信多久了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa68bed5525d9b58e6a21","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb87d3a79dae3f7720e92","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa68bed5525d9b58e6a21","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qb48cbc751bf390cbde3f","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":889,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T09:32:55.756Z","text":"快两周了吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb87d3a79dae3f7720e92","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb48cbc751bf390cbde3f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb87d3a79dae3f7720e92","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q09abbcca0354d13f1e80","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":890,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T09:33:21.504Z","text":"二巡说 reasonable time","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q09abbcca0354d13f1e80","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qed750d75e7d535c4afc7","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":891,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T09:33:33.818Z","text":"其实这个有弹性 我也不知道多久","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed750d75e7d535c4afc7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q936b385183c5a36c8299","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":892,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T09:33:48.820Z","text":"但估计托雷斯是根本就理都不理","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q936b385183c5a36c8299","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q8b6c81f719547155984f","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":893,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-06T09:38:17.558Z","text":"她上传我的强制令本身就有点给二巡叫板的味道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b6c81f719547155984f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q2c7e4d35657553953aab","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":894,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T09:40:36.926Z","text":"她已经上传我的了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8b6c81f719547155984f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c7e4d35657553953aab","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b6c81f719547155984f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qe06875020f0a338af1f2","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":895,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-06T09:42:26.843Z","text":"哪有钱买那么多纸啊😆","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb32cfe4189ba65825826","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe06875020f0a338af1f2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb32cfe4189ba65825826","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q6f0f3661cb02836859c6","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":896,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-06T10:06:41.791Z","text":"就是这意思，先上传你的，然后没动静，我的立案再被敲打，又上传我的，这不就是负隅顽抗吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2c7e4d35657553953aab","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f0f3661cb02836859c6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c7e4d35657553953aab","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q31e5b3fd007094b03590","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":897,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T10:19:04.632Z","text":"他们可以解释为 上传二巡文件 完整程度 妈的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6f0f3661cb02836859c6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31e5b3fd007094b03590","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f0f3661cb02836859c6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q1ee729807ec8ade0da34","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":898,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-06T10:19:56.099Z","text":"动议是交给他的他不传，二巡不是给他的他抢着传","edited":false,"reply_to":"q31e5b3fd007094b03590","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ee729807ec8ade0da34","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31e5b3fd007094b03590","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qb2c509c3c3d0eb404333","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":899,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-12-06T10:31:35.090Z","text":"我吃饱了撑的投诉你。你自导自演，不要胡乱栽赃。我从不举报别人。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2c509c3c3d0eb404333","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qcc9ccc8b351c5a9f10e2","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":900,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-12-06T10:34:56.216Z","text":"［用户 hah***］ 你这个大[屏蔽词]。推特那种通过挑战的玩意，根本没有任何人举报。是你这个[屏蔽词]玩意发帖子突然增多，异常状态，推特给你的测试而已。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc9ccc8b351c5a9f10e2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qab5122a0af0406ffff49","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":901,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T10:37:19.510Z","text":"今天jason的立案把他打爆了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa73047844d414990100d","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab5122a0af0406ffff49","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q7d281f61bd2e9c4b6a77","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":902,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T10:39:42.971Z","text":"［用户 ntp***］ 操 我后知后觉 我明白为什么他们要立案了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d281f61bd2e9c4b6a77","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qa116a6b0d170253fcf18","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":903,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T10:39:49.525Z","text":"［用户 ntp***］ 就是阻止他们量刑","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa116a6b0d170253fcf18","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q3bbb02af5c9fa17b0317","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":904,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2025-12-06T10:46:07.823Z","text":"是给台阶下，让南区撤诉吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3bbb02af5c9fa17b0317","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q2b83838079561716d857","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":905,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T10:46:33.386Z","text":"南区撤诉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b83838079561716d857","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qc979fe49057f06f229e6","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":906,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T10:46:37.094Z","text":"不可能","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc979fe49057f06f229e6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q27406ea40c241e7012ce","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":907,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T10:46:45.314Z","text":"到时候有一场硬仗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27406ea40c241e7012ce","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qe2f4ea2e475995008b8f","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":908,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-06T11:11:15.930Z","text":"阻止量刑？那不正合托雷斯的意？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa116a6b0d170253fcf18","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2f4ea2e475995008b8f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa116a6b0d170253fcf18","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q6f9c93695f8614e5fa91","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":909,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T11:16:26.625Z","text":"你让你的同事抓你们自己人吗？你这个级别应该不低，和[删节：隐私信息]差不多吧","edited":true,"reply_to":"q4be85631b62ed5bf5724","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f9c93695f8614e5fa91","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qcd2f2cd2a47b71b4ae1a","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":910,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-12-06T11:18:13.116Z","text":"［用户 hua***］ 黄河边先生，文悦这个大[屏蔽词]说咱俩是一伙的，说我和你级别一样","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd2f2cd2a47b71b4ae1a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qb0a39c8cf85eb7566fa3","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":911,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T11:19:26.731Z","text":"看你对[删节：隐私信息]如此恭敬，对[删节：隐私信息]的如此仇视，本身就不正常","edited":true,"reply_to":"q799eb458780ae1b546fe","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0a39c8cf85eb7566fa3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q24b3c0a87613d4a740d3","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":912,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T11:34:55.453Z","text":"瑞恩小哥已经开始对它威廉王爹爹喷了，你什么时候也证明一下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q24b3c0a87613d4a740d3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q8f411a60bd3c905b8aa7","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":913,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T11:40:51.670Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 大家可以翻开螺丝[屏蔽词]的聊天，看看是不是对[删节：隐私信息]只有跪舔，对[删节：隐私信息]的，你们和它们无冤无仇，它们就对你们骂。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f411a60bd3c905b8aa7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q7fa21c4c85a83a2c41a3","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":914,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T11:52:49.907Z","text":"新Pua词终于出来啦。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaf506d4fb9e3f3209958","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fa21c4c85a83a2c41a3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qddf107632d2b9f69fd79","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":915,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T11:55:31.630Z","text":"另外，你又再污蔑我了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa0e26910f5a0a39725a7","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qddf107632d2b9f69fd79","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q68801a69d934c727858e","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":916,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T11:57:31.898Z","text":"你们再不出新的PUA词，你们上级可是会扣你工资","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68801a69d934c727858e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q59b17cec89d381977ad2","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":917,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T12:00:11.324Z","text":"你家瑞恩小逼崽，熬不住我的爆料，已经对它威廉王爹爹喷了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa0e26910f5a0a39725a7","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59b17cec89d381977ad2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qb484895ccdc31a8631b3","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":918,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-12-06T14:12:42.468Z","text":"警察还没有来抓我，这可怎么办","edited":false,"reply_to":"q56a08076b8f83d007d4e","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb484895ccdc31a8631b3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qf3f387fca422cb1d4acc","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":919,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-06T14:34:44.984Z","text":"这些套在你自己身上挺合适的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd88101744ce490b39496","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3f387fca422cb1d4acc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd88101744ce490b39496","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q87d73ad9cf1a33b6f46f","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":920,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T14:36:21.287Z","text":"我对谁洗呢","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf3f387fca422cb1d4acc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87d73ad9cf1a33b6f46f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3f387fca422cb1d4acc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q1fe4d8c6919153e34aca","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":921,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-06T14:40:05.823Z","text":"文悅同学对自诉陷阱的定义已经从“自诉对郭不利”变成了“对自诉人不利”了，说明文悅同学根本不知道什么是自诉陷阱，都是瞎几把扯","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1fe4d8c6919153e34aca","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q9d664f5559269fc8d9a5","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":922,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T14:44:25.666Z","text":"那你谈谈啊，把你Ai分析的截图出来啊，你娘怎么操出你怂包玩意","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1fe4d8c6919153e34aca","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d664f5559269fc8d9a5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1fe4d8c6919153e34aca","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qe0e7105abab1b04955dc","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":923,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-06T14:46:35.781Z","text":"我都谈了，自诉陷阱确实有，法庭各方已经掉进去了，包括检方，辩方，法官，盖尔，luc等","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9d664f5559269fc8d9a5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0e7105abab1b04955dc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d664f5559269fc8d9a5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qeb087e650dfdca3824d7","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":924,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T14:47:21.438Z","text":"你们其他的一直截图，关键地方不敢截图啦","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe0e7105abab1b04955dc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb087e650dfdca3824d7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0e7105abab1b04955dc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qa3a65081c1fe9ad1a10e","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":925,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T14:48:47.734Z","text":"把你Ai分析的结果，截图出来啊，怂包蛋","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa3a65081c1fe9ad1a10e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q3beaeabf3d0c5bb95fc5","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":926,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-06T14:49:42.457Z","text":"这还用ai分析啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3beaeabf3d0c5bb95fc5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qc1c9e6f0552d5df3a1ef","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":927,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-06T14:50:27.080Z","text":"以前没有ai的时候，就没有分析师这种工作了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1c9e6f0552d5df3a1ef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q1d5f5344de5c21a7b828","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":928,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-06T14:50:50.174Z","text":"现在有了ai, ai全都是对的？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d5f5344de5c21a7b828","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q5392f9035af45f0540e9","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":929,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-06T14:51:43.609Z","text":"我怎么觉得你说的话，都可以套在你自己身上？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdec8afac96941b750393","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5392f9035af45f0540e9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qcb09ea9144edc1f17379","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":930,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T14:52:49.495Z","text":"驴操出来的，才不敢把自诉陷阱查出来，没有Ai，用搜索引擎也可以啊，你这个驴操出来的怂包玩意","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5392f9035af45f0540e9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb09ea9144edc1f17379","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5392f9035af45f0540e9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qeb7f22a0b519a8b21007","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":931,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-06T14:54:57.545Z","text":"不想和他战斗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc15af87d934b2df2e3c4","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb7f22a0b519a8b21007","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q70ab674ea9f001556f2b","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":932,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T14:57:52.157Z","text":"怂包玩意，有种的晒晒图啊，把你的“自诉陷阱”查到的，晒出来啊，你们这群驴操出来的[屏蔽词]","edited":true,"reply_to":"qeb7f22a0b519a8b21007","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70ab674ea9f001556f2b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb7f22a0b519a8b21007","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q4cd0f5051a2d34a0a549","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":933,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T14:58:21.488Z","text":"不是天天嗨吗？怎么不敢晒了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4cd0f5051a2d34a0a549","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q91187b0edd70104f71bd","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":934,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-06T14:59:04.788Z","text":"你自己查，让你的机器人告诉你，法官，检方，辩方，盖尔，luc都没到陷阱里？他们都活蹦乱跳的？好吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q70ab674ea9f001556f2b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91187b0edd70104f71bd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70ab674ea9f001556f2b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qf927d1bfc6f5591dec52","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":935,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-06T14:59:42.079Z","text":"你查出来ai说这些人全在陷阱外面，给大家看看。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf927d1bfc6f5591dec52","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q7f9229789a9b43a35b33","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":936,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T15:00:10.460Z","text":"共产党要代表所有人，你又要代表检方，法官等等","edited":false,"reply_to":"q91187b0edd70104f71bd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f9229789a9b43a35b33","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91187b0edd70104f71bd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qed5ab114c15bfdce0068","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":937,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-06T15:01:06.676Z","text":"https://x.com/Haier918/status/1986223198690500876?s=20","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed5ab114c15bfdce0068","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qdb43beffd15a5c97b273","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":938,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-06T15:01:32.251Z","text":"https://x.com/Haier918/status/1981740796807200818?s=20","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb43beffd15a5c97b273","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qcde11335b5c5cc4d59b5","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":939,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-06T15:03:02.110Z","text":"这份命令强烈表明，立案（docketing）属于“非自由裁量的行政/事务性义务（non-discretionary ministerial duty）”，而不是法院可以自由选择是否履行的事项，尽管第二巡回目前尚未发出强制令。\n\n关键在于命令中的这句话：\n\n> “denied without prejudice to renewal if the district court fails to docket the submissions within a reasonable time.”\n（如果地区法院未在合理时间内将提交的文件立案，本申请不妨碍日后再次提出。）\n\n\n\n这句话非常关键。\n\n\n---\n\n一、第二巡回实际上做了什么判定\n\n命令中写道：\n\n> “Petitioner’s mandamus petition as to docketing his submissions is denied without prejudice to renewal if the district court fails to docket the submissions within a reasonable time.”\n\n\n\n其含义是：\n\n❌ 并不是说地区法院可以自行决定是否立案\n\n✅ 而是明确表达：立案是预期会发生的事情\n\n✅ 如果在“合理时间”内仍未立案，未来再次申请强制令是正当的\n\n\n这不是自由裁量式语言。\n\n\n---\n\n二、为什么这意味着“非自由裁量义务”\n\nA. 强制令只针对“必须履行的义务”\n\n根据强制令（mandamus）法律原则（包括 Cheney 案）：\n\n强制令只能用于迫使履行\n\n法定或事务性（ministerial）的义务，或\n\n不作为已构成裁量权滥用的情形\n\n\n\n如果立案本身是完全自由裁量的事项，第二巡回会直接说：\n\n“地区法院在案卷管理方面享有裁量权”\n\n或者简单驳回，不留下“可再申请”的空间\n\n\n但第二巡回没有这么做。\n\n\n---\n\nB. “不妨碍再提”（without prejudice to renewal）的措辞具有决定性意义\n\n“如果未在合理时间内立案，可再行申请”意味着：\n\n✅ 立案义务现在就存在\n\n✅ 第二巡回只是给予一个合理的时间缓冲\n\n✅ 若持续不立案，将从“程序管理问题”转变为可强制执行的权利\n\n\n这是一种典型的上诉法院信号：\n\n> “我们暂不介入，但如果该义务继续未被履行，我们将介入。”\n\n\n\n\n---\n\nC. “合理时间”只针对时间长短，而非“是否立案”\n\n命令并未说：\n\n“如果法院决定不立案”\n\n或“如果法院行使裁量权不立案”\n\n\n而是说：\n\n“未在合理时间内立案（fails to docket）”\n\n\n这说明：\n\n✅ 裁量只存在于多快立案\n\n❌ 不存在于是否立案\n\n\n\n---\n\n三、该命令不允许地区法院做的事情\n\n依据该命令，地区法院不能合法地：\n\n❌ 制定“一概不立案”的政策\n\n❌ 以案卷数量大为由拒绝立案\n\n❌ 无限期将文件“放在案卷之外”\n\n❌ 把立案当作门槛控制手段\n\n\n如果这样做，恰恰触发了第二巡回所明确指出的再申请强制令条件。\n\n\n---\n\n四、为什么第二巡回现在驳回强制令\n\n这是基于时间和案件姿态（posture），而非否定立案义务本身。\n\n命令中的信号包括：\n\n提到“提交数量较多”\n\n表示“相信地区法院会迅速处理”\n\n多处使用“without prejudice（不妨碍再提）”\n\n\n这体现的是上级法院的暂时克制，而不是对不立案行为的认可。\n\n\n---\n\n五、对你的实际意义（非常重要）\n\n✅ 你现在可以真实、准确地表述：\n\n> “第二巡回已经明确表示，如未在合理时间内立案，可再次申请强制令。”\n\n\n\n这不是推测，而是正式司法语言。\n\n✅ 如果仍然不立案：\n\n你的“明确且不可争议的权利”要件会显著增强\n\nCheney 标准中“clear and indisputable”这一要素将更容易满足\n\n以书记官或工作量为理由的拒绝将越来越站不住脚\n\n\n\n---\n\n六、一句话总结\n\n该命令强烈支持以下结论：\n\n> ✅ 地区法院对合法提交的文件负有非自由裁量的立案义务\n❌ 其裁量仅限于立案的时间，而不是是否立案\n\n\n\n第二巡回实际上在说：\n\n> “我们预期你会立案；如果不立案，可以再来找我们。”","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcde11335b5c5cc4d59b5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qc5e1cdfafe713715d73b","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":940,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-06T15:04:43.119Z","text":"https://x.com/Testurheart/status/1993803440208925170?s=20","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5e1cdfafe713715d73b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q9731f10a225a618596ec","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":941,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-06T15:06:49.034Z","text":"反正我现在看到的就是法庭上，法官，检方，辩方，luc没有一个人敢提733，驳回733","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9731f10a225a618596ec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qd31e7d8757804de64e23","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":942,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-06T15:07:53.033Z","text":"盖尔反对了733，但是733根本没提盖尔，他是自作多情","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd31e7d8757804de64e23","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q1aee8e765fbb3af3e2b2","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":943,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-06T15:09:53.991Z","text":"法庭上现在除了驳回螺丝哥动议之外，其他的自诉人的动议一个也不敢提","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1aee8e765fbb3af3e2b2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q6a60216ce9a453c0db17","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":944,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-06T15:10:28.189Z","text":"我不知道自诉有什么陷阱，让法官检方辩方，都哑巴了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a60216ce9a453c0db17","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q9d5e33f8d09ae39782fe","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":945,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-06T15:10:58.503Z","text":"我觉得这个陷阱肯定很大，不然怎么各方都吓成这样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d5e33f8d09ae39782fe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q446b4ee977e2d3db1d47","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":946,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T15:11:13.078Z","text":"[屏蔽词]，都不了解法庭程序，你个驴操出来的，晒图啊","edited":true,"reply_to":"q1aee8e765fbb3af3e2b2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q446b4ee977e2d3db1d47","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1aee8e765fbb3af3e2b2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qd5bf7deb99a19acc6285","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":947,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-06T15:11:29.200Z","text":"联盟也对自诉人，装聋作哑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5bf7deb99a19acc6285","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q901df69f52d157b2182c","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":948,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-06T15:11:50.256Z","text":"你不是说，联盟都是特务吗，“特务”现在都吓得不敢说话了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q901df69f52d157b2182c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q843505f084d983c165c3","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":949,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-06T15:12:04.944Z","text":"你说这个陷阱有多大","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q843505f084d983c165c3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q4ba8cac3865901f94e6f","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":950,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T15:12:05.554Z","text":"我刚刚帮你们在联盟群和老椅子群提了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd5bf7deb99a19acc6285","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ba8cac3865901f94e6f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5bf7deb99a19acc6285","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qb205110356d2f33ced1a","batch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它们天天晒Ai分析的截图，但是让它们晒自诉陷阱的截图，就不敢了。这如同它妈被操高潮时，他爹截个图晒晒朋友圈，但是不敢晒是谁在操它妈，让它妈高潮的，是这个意思吧","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68edef5cd46f46083be8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q59c90bce03ac3a1622ce","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":956,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2025-12-06T15:16:48.520Z","text":"金融欺不欺诈，和司法程序不正义有什么关系？用不正义手段来起诉作证，美国的司法系统就是就是要推翻案件，自诉陷不陷阱又怎么了？改变得了其司法程序不正义吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59c90bce03ac3a1622ce","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qbfd944e8883845caa813","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":957,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-06T15:16:51.030Z","text":"我上面都晒过了，你看看","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe4b02571c6436dfc6835","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbfd944e8883845caa813","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q42afe8d18f5f9fb31e99","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":958,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T15:17:41.427Z","text":"哪个字有自诉陷阱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42afe8d18f5f9fb31e99","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qf636745a1eb7a4e251ca","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":959,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-06T15:18:47.892Z","text":"这你就不知道了，没有“陷阱”两个字的陷阱才可怕","edited":false,"reply_to":"q42afe8d18f5f9fb31e99","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf636745a1eb7a4e251ca","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42afe8d18f5f9fb31e99","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qd88e3f21cdb2a656b102","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":960,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-06T15:19:08.755Z","text":"陷阱让人知道了，还是陷阱吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd88e3f21cdb2a656b102","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q91d2226d59b0dc54ca3a","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":961,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-06T15:21:00.115Z","text":"联盟是从什么时候开始不搞\"相见\"了？是不是自诉人上庭开始？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91d2226d59b0dc54ca3a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q6cb7db04195ac79b4b8f","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":962,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-06T15:21:16.662Z","text":"什么时候不大量接郭的\"电话\"了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6cb7db04195ac79b4b8f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q6f61d5465e85dd3c595d","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":963,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T15:29:57.863Z","text":"谁先入陷阱 这是关键 对吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf636745a1eb7a4e251ca","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f61d5465e85dd3c595d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf636745a1eb7a4e251ca","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q8d9e01b6abe0fdc7ad6d","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":964,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T15:31:28.130Z","text":"有种的晒晒自诉陷阱的截图啊，怂包玩意","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6f61d5465e85dd3c595d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d9e01b6abe0fdc7ad6d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f61d5465e85dd3c595d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qb67baefd3da2f8ebdc60","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":965,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-06T15:32:48.383Z","text":"你们这群怂包蛋，驴操出的生物，不是天天晒Ai截图吗？让你们晒一下自诉陷阱的截图，你们这群[屏蔽词]就不敢了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb67baefd3da2f8ebdc60","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q94968a112dbc9086cb13","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":966,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T15:33:28.140Z","text":"自诉就是害郭文贵 让他牢底坐穿","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb67baefd3da2f8ebdc60","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94968a112dbc9086cb13","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb67baefd3da2f8ebdc60","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"qe957c5517016a6274117","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":967,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-06T15:33:37.295Z","text":"我就是砸郭的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb67baefd3da2f8ebdc60","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe957c5517016a6274117","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb67baefd3da2f8ebdc60","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000061"},{"id":"q7c22890c45cf50f799d7","batch_id":"batch-000061","seq":968,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-06T15:34:41.710Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 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