{"id":"batch-000062","number":62,"revision":1,"date_start":"2025-12-06T16:50:39.536Z","date_end":"2025-12-10T01:33:50.436Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 062 (Dec 6, 2025 – Dec 10, 2025), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. From Dec 6 to Dec 10, 2025, batch 62 debates United States v. GUO, 1:23-cr-00118, over Torres handling of third-party filings and whether it is procedural delay or a merits shift. Participants dispute pro se versus counsel strategy, §853(n) and CVRA scope, and filing-count/docketing disputes. Rule 60(d)(3) tactics are also contested, with references to markers 733, 765, 766 and Cheney v. U.S. Dist. Ct. for D.C. 542 U.S. 367. Community statements, not court findings. Community statements, not court findings.","guide_en":[{"title":"Case status and second-circuit boundary: whether Torres is on the record and whether the court should defer merits review while waiting","description":"him*** argues the second-circuit route is a non-final procedural posture after Torres-related submissions, while others claim the practical meaning is disputed around independent petitioners and strategy sequencing. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q55165aa4019de75bc9e4","q18c3aa11a09c89878e5c","q8f224f5fe5e47abc5f08"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q55165aa4019de75bc9e4","summary_en":"him*** contends the August 11 order gave third parties a 60-day §853(n) window, many filed pro se materials were not accepted, the second circuit said it was not yet ripe, and it appears the district court may be tested again if filings continue to be resisted. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q18c3aa11a09c89878e5c","summary_en":"him*** claims hiring counsel normally means taking the whole case and ongoing payments, not just a single motion. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q8f224f5fe5e47abc5f08","summary_en":"him*** asks whether mandamus petitioners in the second circuit are independent participants. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"AI reliability and evidentiary re-check conflict: prior conclusions versus follow-up evidence","description":"him*** and others claim AI-based inferences are contested, with participants disputing whether AI outputs can be treated as validated legal evidence or require repeated confirmation from the group. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qa042d19d42a6b343439e","q9a341dc5b3bd71b7a2e1","q5dbdfb0853c52ec2c0d4"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qa042d19d42a6b343439e","summary_en":"him*** demands a reciprocity condition for replies, signaling he will evaluate the AI-based claim only after his own question is answered first. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q9a341dc5b3bd71b7a2e1","summary_en":"him*** asks another participant to confirm whether the cited assertion is correct. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q5dbdfb0853c52ec2c0d4","summary_en":"him*** says he will respond only after the other person says the prior points are correct, showing a procedural-style challenge in the AI evidence exchange. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Pro se and third-party participation boundary: self-filed filings, standing, and institutional risk","description":"him*** argues pro se filing is being treated as a strategic response to abnormal court processing, while others contend counsel and third-party access each carry distinct risks that must be balanced before committing. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q9651ec8257fccb27cdfc","q0dc4cf6c738c8e247dbc","qed93ab3fed7d921fe4a7"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q9651ec8257fccb27cdfc","summary_en":"him*** describes a systemic “abnormal case” pattern where filings are not docketed consistently and argues that most pro se risks stem from case-specific process failures, while also listing pro se advantages like retained standing under §853(n)/CVRA, direct record creation, and cost control. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q0dc4cf6c738c8e247dbc","summary_en":"rui*** says a non-party figure was also brought into the filing process. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qed93ab3fed7d921fe4a7","summary_en":"rui*** claims there are roughly several hundred third-party documents involved. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Dispute over the “self-prosecution trap”: whether it equals sentence escalation","description":"him*** asks for a distinction between ordinary pro se risk and a “self-prosecution trap,” while rui*** claims the trap is a narrative and strategic threat intended to keep pressure on Guo. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q3d7cb7b60a430efaf663","q2477e88e3454402daeac","q6ea186349c03d9a59def"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q3d7cb7b60a430efaf663","summary_en":"him*** disputes whether “self-prosecution risk” and “self-prosecution trap” are the same concept. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q2477e88e3454402daeac","summary_en":"him*** asks if the distinction point is understood, pressing for confirmation. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q6ea186349c03d9a59def","summary_en":"rui*** contends that self-prosecution is being used to keep Guo continuously exposed, which he frames as the core trap. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Filing archival and document-count dispute: whether 300/500/88/215 items were filed and compliant","description":"Participants argue over docket records and count integrity, with him*** and others claiming many documents were sent for filing while others dispute classification between prosecution framing and third-party submissions. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qf8a5385812e93d155c47","q5ca4f55a44161caa6d8b","q4ea2ca0390bbca9fc99a"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qf8a5385812e93d155c47","summary_en":"rui*** asks whether hundreds of Wang Yanping’s filings were missing or disappeared. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q5ca4f55a44161caa6d8b","summary_en":"him*** argues that roughly 300 mailed submissions should have been docketed. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q4ea2ca0390bbca9fc99a","summary_en":"him*** questions whether the prosecutor’s “88+215” references correspond to pro se submissions. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"853n access disputes: who controls the filing set and whether it should be provided","description":"him*** and rui*** dispute the handling of §853(n) materials, with claims that control is judicial while others infer practical non-delivery of filings despite claims they were provided by third parties. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qa40f558586f61b128836","q4ccb55a0b8815f3da108","q822f6231342063bd6d4d"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qa40f558586f61b128836","summary_en":"him*** says 215 documents lacked explicit §853(n) citation and may simply be third-party submissions resisting forfeiture without proper legal framing. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q4ccb55a0b8815f3da108","summary_en":"him*** states that §853(n) matters are court-administered. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q822f6231342063bd6d4d","summary_en":"him*** asserts that none of the disputed materials were uploaded. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Sentencing goal and reversal-route split: sentence escalation versus procedural trajectory","description":"Participants dispute whether strategy is aimed at increasing punishment or preserving a procedural pathway, with some asserting a sentence-raising trajectory while others emphasize post-conviction filing sequencing. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qec92b5904dd03352081b","q6f4a84ccdfa80d5523c5","q6ea186349c03d9a59def"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qec92b5904dd03352081b","summary_en":"rui*** claims that participants in the channel are in effect pushing for a higher sentence for Guo. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q6f4a84ccdfa80d5523c5","summary_en":"rui*** asks how avoiding the trap still allows Guo to remain constrained, signaling skepticism toward process-only strategies. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q6ea186349c03d9a59def","summary_en":"rui*** repeats that self-prosecution is meant to leave Guo in prolonged confinement. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Statute and timing node dispute: two-week upload silence, Rule 60 concerns, and reasonable timelines","description":"him*** and rui*** dispute timing benchmarks, with one side warning that two-week non-upload could trigger deeper conflict with the second circuit and another side noting there may be no statutory filing deadline for the CVRA timing at issue. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q6f4a548a85bc928b6dca","q2203f4d0f2369c501750","q86009ec94adae3943459"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q6f4a548a85bc928b6dca","summary_en":"rui*** says a two-week period without upload could indicate the matter is moving toward direct confrontation with the second circuit. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q2203f4d0f2369c501750","summary_en":"him*** asks what counts as a reasonable time for CVRA motion filing/processing. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q86009ec94adae3943459","summary_en":"rui*** responds that there is no fixed statutory time for that timing question. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Appeal and second-circuit review scope conflict: merits-only versus procedural-only review","description":"him*** and rui*** contest whether appellate focus is procedural correction or merits review, and whether counsel quality affects whether this stage should pursue another petition or reserve strategy. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q2b05db32d601c6f6d29e","q9e981898f7dcea927e06","q50a1fee8bde2c26b4baf"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q2b05db32d601c6f6d29e","summary_en":"him*** asks to review the exact text of a mandamus order, signalling a dispute over how narrowly or broadly it should be interpreted. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q9e981898f7dcea927e06","summary_en":"rui*** shares text of a denied pro se mandamus petition, stating the court found no clear and indisputable entitlement and denied relief under the Cheney standard. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q50a1fee8bde2c26b4baf","summary_en":"him*** recommends a near-retirement lawyer for Guo, implying counsel type is part of the strategic disagreement. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Victim definition debate: investors, supporters, and participants under CVRA framing","description":"Participants dispute how CVRA and related victim language should apply, with some contesting broad victim labeling and others asserting prosecution-style treatment of all impacted parties. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q7c990a378069481c3306","q4a9b4a513f9d63feb611","q9b8126b581fb537976b4"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q7c990a378069481c3306","summary_en":"chu*** argues ordinary cases do not require victim participation and says he was effectively forced into a victim-like position by court injunctions in this case. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q4a9b4a513f9d63feb611","summary_en":"him*** relays a claim that non-victim participants can be cast as co-actors and that prosecutors rejected those who deny victim status. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q9b8126b581fb537976b4","summary_en":"him*** states that, from a legal perspective, prosecutors describe everyone as a victim. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Community governance and identity conflict: flooding, private linkage, and identity inference escalation","description":"Community participants claim discussion quality is being undermined by repeated strategic pivots, identity accusations, and private-channel targeting, disputing whether such social conflict is a side effect or a core governance failure of the group. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q343d1f9717c9745503fe","q98a35e86c07cfd615f1a","q94b055314de0c14a19a5"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q343d1f9717c9745503fe","summary_en":"ntp*** says this is a tactical shift, indicating a claimed change in discussion track. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q98a35e86c07cfd615f1a","summary_en":"nin*** expresses uncertainty about whether participants have been misidentified. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q94b055314de0c14a19a5","summary_en":"chu*** tells one participant to stop debating here and move abuse elsewhere, highlighting escalation in group moderation norms. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Political narrative and media expectation conflict: political node versus narrow procedural case","description":"him*** and rui*** dispute whether this is a political-security moment shaped by state narratives or primarily a procedural anomaly, with participants arguing about government influence and likely media framing. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q94af8ca04bfe0396e727","q7deffae73cb10da7bdda","q9c17f36755de8d0169c4"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q94af8ca04bfe0396e727","summary_en":"him*** argues the group should not rely on government guidance. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q7deffae73cb10da7bdda","summary_en":"rui*** predicts mainstream media will report the matter explosively in coming months. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q9c17f36755de8d0169c4","summary_en":"gun*** claims government national-security strategy leaves Guo with no remaining political path, emphasizing a political-judicial framing. Community statements, not court findings."}]}],"summary":"讨论围绕郭案后续路径出现明显裂变，核心不在单一事实真伪，而在程序与叙事取向。部分参与者将焦点放在 pro se/第三方自诉与二巡程序卡点：从 Torres 入卷、动议被退回、文书未及时 docket、材料“消失”到 853n 管理与提交边界，进而推演是否触发 Rule60/Cheney/CVRA 的再起诉或再审路线。另有成员强调检方与法院程序瑕疵、Brady疑点与政治化风险。围绕 AI 分析是否可直接采信、受害者定义是否覆盖投资者与支持者、量刑目标是规避风险还是推升刑期、以及无效辩护与律师团队能力，形成多条对立路径。与此同时群内身份争执、私聊连坐与媒体化预期使争论由“法律策略”进一步演化为群体治理与舆论博弈。","guide":[{"title":"案件状态与二巡裁判边界：Torres是否入卷、是否先不实质裁决并等待后续","message_ids":["q55165aa4019de75bc9e4","q18c3aa11a09c89878e5c","q8f224f5fe5e47abc5f08"]},{"title":"AI分析可信度与证据复核冲突：先验结论与后补截图的对抗式沟通持续","message_ids":["qa042d19d42a6b343439e","q9a341dc5b3bd71b7a2e1","q5dbdfb0853c52ec2c0d4"]},{"title":"pro 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se法条没引用对，很正常","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaadae039c2ce46933c6f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q72310a1d3d3dd12ed9ae","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":604,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-08T20:58:21.491Z","text":"托雷斯被逼到亲自下场违法 也是一大奇观","edited":false,"reply_to":"q32188f9b621285ae8cfa","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72310a1d3d3dd12ed9ae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q0623908c04a513c76c59","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":605,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-08T20:58:49.982Z","text":"当时驳回他，好像有好几个理由","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0623908c04a513c76c59","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qfaaf21d20b3981788c01","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":606,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-08T20:59:17.179Z","text":"说他占用司法资源， 还有提及私人事务，威胁检方和受害者？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfaaf21d20b3981788c01","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q1335f188bcf3fe4679d3","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":607,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-08T21:01:03.498Z","text":"没说他威胁luc","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1335f188bcf3fe4679d3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q13ff9f49676564c7a388","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":608,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-08T21:01:12.964Z","text":"说他威胁检方，和受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13ff9f49676564c7a388","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qb6120092568cb5dcc6a0","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":609,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-08T21:01:14.774Z","text":"那是威胁谁😄","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb6120092568cb5dcc6a0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q60e7e3a822e6fbee8e94","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":610,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-08T21:01:40.078Z","text":"511检方还威胁投资人呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60e7e3a822e6fbee8e94","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q0de6101c772eaf1c9a51","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":611,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-08T21:01:55.708Z","text":"检方说你不承认自己是受害者，不是傻就是坏","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0de6101c772eaf1c9a51","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q8a4ca26834da43e81dc7","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":612,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-08T21:02:03.295Z","text":"［用户 chu***］ 原来打检方打受害者 也是你开的头","edited":true,"reply_to":"q13ff9f49676564c7a388","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a4ca26834da43e81dc7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13ff9f49676564c7a388","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q8b00b93910920c1dde0b","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":613,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-08T21:02:30.155Z","text":"我继承了螺丝哥远大理想 直接打了法官🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b00b93910920c1dde0b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q3ed54dc90ab56cdbd7f0","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":614,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-08T21:02:44.986Z","text":"法官到时候说，你威胁法官","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ed54dc90ab56cdbd7f0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q552683dea43bacac1dfa","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":615,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-08T21:03:15.412Z","text":"那法官算不算威胁[删节：成员身份]和其他第三方？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q552683dea43bacac1dfa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qf9ac9ba3bbe3b5a372b2","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":616,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-08T21:04:14.309Z","text":"我没威胁法官 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him***］ 我问机器人 两周如果还不上传 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我也玩","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa14ca044d89f2d22054a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q7deffae73cb10da7bdda","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":637,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-08T21:44:47.442Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 我可以向大家保证 接下去几个月中 我们必将被主流媒体爆炸性报道","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7deffae73cb10da7bdda","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q51c0c54b398627bf412f","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":638,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-08T21:45:19.368Z","text":"凡是上了动议的 不管你是挺郭动议 还是砸郭动议 都是英雄 都将名垂青史","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51c0c54b398627bf412f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q53c9655abea84fe4872b","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":639,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-08T21:46:05.550Z","text":"甚至我们在群里的截图也会被发到报纸 新闻当中😄","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53c9655abea84fe4872b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q9b1862dbefb9ec04f82a","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":640,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-08T21:46:38.605Z","text":"美国司法两百年不曾出现的现象","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b1862dbefb9ec04f82a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q79d764524440b935fb91","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":641,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-08T21:46:45.368Z","text":"现在是被我们创造的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79d764524440b935fb91","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q177ebb8898cdaaa493d3","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":642,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-08T21:47:31.715Z","text":"我们此次行动意义非凡 是","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q177ebb8898cdaaa493d3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q4b5d35820fb6dd9816ee","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":643,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-08T21:47:55.924Z","text":"是美国司法 政治的一个分水岭事件","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b5d35820fb6dd9816ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qf5ca98b88e4bbad88033","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":644,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-08T21:48:19.952Z","text":"我们此战必将封神","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5ca98b88e4bbad88033","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q60358930778e665249cd","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":645,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-08T21:53:08.780Z","text":"哈哈 我之前说的话 哪句话是狗血","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe4b2d230e5e91c87890b","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60358930778e665249cd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q70ae1beced620366692f","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":646,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-08T21:53:13.571Z","text":"不都是事实","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70ae1beced620366692f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q740b9f5f547c6a15d305","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":647,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-08T22:21:26.585Z","text":"不是狗血，是龙血。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q740b9f5f547c6a15d305","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q9c59233101faa09d8a69","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":648,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-12-08T22:23:48.622Z","text":"这么猛吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q53c9655abea84fe4872b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c59233101faa09d8a69","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53c9655abea84fe4872b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q533aebd42dae87711436","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":649,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-12-08T22:24:04.680Z","text":"那是不是可以收门票了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q533aebd42dae87711436","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q92ae1c8f133d978d8224","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":650,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2025-12-08T22:27:01.777Z","text":"在你提交 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质变。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e5c30ce33ef23d42bc8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q980c40c04c51dcb33280","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":654,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2025-12-08T22:30:34.729Z","text":"这是你未来拿回钱、翻案、申请保护的唯一入口\n\nMandamus 的关键不是现在给你钱。\n\n它做的是：\n\n把你锁进美国司法体系里面，让你不再被系统排除。\n\n以后你要：\n    •    索赔\n    •    挑战没收\n    •    要求返还资产\n    •    要求审查 SDNY 的错误\n    •    涉入未来的翻案波动\n\n全部都需要你先成为“合法存在的当事人”。\n\nMandamus 建立的正是这个入口","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q980c40c04c51dcb33280","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q4d7189c2faf1cff3b38d","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":655,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2025-12-08T22:31:32.278Z","text":"你现在看不到帮助，是因为你站在错误时间点上\n\nMandamus 是一种：\n\n改变结构 → 改变程序 → 改变结果\n\n的三阶段武器。\n\n你现在还只走到第 1 阶段：\n\n改变结构\n把你从“系统外”强制推进“系统内”。\n\n你不会马上看到钱\n不会马上看到翻案\n不会马上看到结果\n\n但你已经获得未来所有行动的合法通道。\n\n这是根本性的质变。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d7189c2faf1cff3b38d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q344cb4d6fb7e6a944119","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":656,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-12-08T23:53:26.254Z","text":"赢麻了 喜国8年 每天都在赢麻中","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q344cb4d6fb7e6a944119","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qdf7b52521df4476d6497","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":657,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T00:22:28.767Z","text":"南区直接宣判","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf7b52521df4476d6497","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qaec8bec6c8e456f42c14","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":658,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T00:22:39.361Z","text":"郭文贵判刑一百万年","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaec8bec6c8e456f42c14","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q6f689869e40ef551d497","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":659,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T00:23:33.100Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]介入 直接变成一千万年","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f689869e40ef551d497","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qe9b472f15ebbb0e585df","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":660,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T00:24:03.292Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]的天天在下面说  就是不上法庭","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9b472f15ebbb0e585df","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q43d83934c849c1d66bd6","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":661,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-12-09T01:33:12.298Z","text":"喜国输到现在了 总要赢一次","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43d83934c849c1d66bd6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q40515cca8b8dbf23dacc","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":662,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T01:50:10.759Z","text":"这个月17号 如果还不上传","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40515cca8b8dbf23dacc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qb9c5a710552d6fa55497","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":663,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T01:50:23.100Z","text":"我就让[删节：成员身份]去cure我的1651动议","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9c5a710552d6fa55497","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q17640e2751b4089cf834","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":664,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-12-09T01:54:27.109Z","text":"能不能直接放个回本大招","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17640e2751b4089cf834","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q98f33f58d12650f4371b","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":665,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-12-09T02:13:34.145Z","text":"我把我对案件的全部理解喂给ai之后，给我生成的强制令太长了，长得打印费都交不起了。😅","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q98f33f58d12650f4371b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q0854a12de36c38a66cba","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":666,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2025-12-09T02:13:58.183Z","text":"多少页？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0854a12de36c38a66cba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q55a4dba9bcfd2e6789c9","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":667,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-12-09T02:41:49.996Z","text":"手机上word不显示页码，不知道多少页。划拉一半天都到不了底。并且ai一次输出由于字节限制，输出不完，输出了三次才全部输出完成。这个肯定不行。估计被告上诉翻案可能要写这么长。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55a4dba9bcfd2e6789c9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qc49f1c6acd8e781c2e72","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":668,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-12-09T02:43:26.750Z","text":"另一个ai给我输出了一个短的只有几页，基本上就像一个提纲，用精简的语言只提了事情，说不清楚事情。把附件加上，还是很长。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc49f1c6acd8e781c2e72","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q90a2963381d6eda6231d","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":669,"speaker":"ben***","date":"2025-12-09T03:05:43.806Z","text":"我的也有点太长了机器人说有30页。看样子还得缩短","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90a2963381d6eda6231d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q14a3f5d8b676b3aac619","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":670,"speaker":"ben***","date":"2025-12-09T03:07:42.174Z","text":"我一个多月一直给ai喂，你们聊天的重要内容截图，估计太全面了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14a3f5d8b676b3aac619","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q57fe6737a8f1319378a0","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":671,"speaker":"ben***","date":"2025-12-09T03:08:55.803Z","text":"我又加了一个受害者重新定义新内容，机器人说可以加这个内容","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q57fe6737a8f1319378a0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qc0e6c0bd7204d2d2be8e","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":672,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2025-12-09T03:09:35.935Z","text":"我发现你只要问Ai，他会没完没了地有东西加","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0e6c0bd7204d2d2be8e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q6456cb3e178658d3693f","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":673,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2025-12-09T03:12:08.638Z","text":"他们反对什么我们就做什么就对了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6456cb3e178658d3693f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q59c8a71c780d0ecf2daf","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":674,"speaker":"ben***","date":"2025-12-09T03:15:36.712Z","text":"我觉得在这个案子里[删节：成员身份]是虚假投资，虚假索赔的受害人，现在受害人变成了加害者，真正的加害者都变成了债权人，我们这些真投资人又被强制性的成了真受害者的受害者，","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59c8a71c780d0ecf2daf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qa5539f6f18713e03df48","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":675,"speaker":"ben***","date":"2025-12-09T03:17:36.720Z","text":"所以[删节：成员身份]必须要做受害者重新定义","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5539f6f18713e03df48","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q609945b1d177dfcfa5a5","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":676,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2025-12-09T03:21:58.621Z","text":"什么时候回本？我想回本","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q609945b1d177dfcfa5a5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qf893bec5aa74c1673d13","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":677,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-09T05:45:29.427Z","text":"我看到了你的进步。👍","edited":false,"reply_to":"q14a3f5d8b676b3aac619","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf893bec5aa74c1673d13","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14a3f5d8b676b3aac619","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qbc259789340a596a0415","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":678,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-09T05:59:38.929Z","text":"不看文贵看雁平了？又在玩什么把戏？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6456cb3e178658d3693f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc259789340a596a0415","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6456cb3e178658d3693f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q9d42193f79313959fd1f","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":679,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T06:15:03.041Z","text":"文贵要出来了 他们就不看了😄","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbc259789340a596a0415","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d42193f79313959fd1f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc259789340a596a0415","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q6f5ef3cfef93bf2dd453","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":680,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T06:28:27.331Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge3/status/1998278476605100303?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f5ef3cfef93bf2dd453","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q6a761f35aadbe129b3b3","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":681,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-09T06:29:09.226Z","text":"附件是附件，主文就是提纲挈领把附件串起来，表达清楚主要思想就行。二巡不看具体案情，他只看流程是不是真的有问题","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc49f1c6acd8e781c2e72","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a761f35aadbe129b3b3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc49f1c6acd8e781c2e72","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q352f3401c3cdca3a3dfb","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":682,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-09T06:31:37.550Z","text":"不要顺着ai 的提示走，聊着聊着就歪了，第一次回答的内容最实用，什么需不需要我……的提示都不要理，直接自己提问题","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc0e6c0bd7204d2d2be8e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q352f3401c3cdca3a3dfb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0e6c0bd7204d2d2be8e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q29095555039f1cac5e2f","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":683,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T06:31:59.014Z","text":"对的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q352f3401c3cdca3a3dfb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29095555039f1cac5e2f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q352f3401c3cdca3a3dfb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q6c33896dc7b20909e973","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":684,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-09T06:57:13.838Z","text":"https://x.com/testurheart/status/1998285591474053374?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c33896dc7b20909e973","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q8b5fc1f90e8c2bb1ab0f","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":685,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-09T07:03:24.326Z","text":"这个太绕了。一般人难搞得懂。\n只有在此群泡了很久的人才知道你这是什么意思。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q59c8a71c780d0ecf2daf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b5fc1f90e8c2bb1ab0f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59c8a71c780d0ecf2daf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q7e5fbfa6a8b87c8aad3f","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":686,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-09T07:05:00.570Z","text":"说明你用 Word 用得不熟。问问机器人，它是告诉你怎么查到 Word 的页数。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q55a4dba9bcfd2e6789c9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e5fbfa6a8b87c8aad3f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55a4dba9bcfd2e6789c9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qc4f173f325eac356a6d0","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":687,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-09T07:50:58.563Z","text":"我在大学毕业的时候给我的一位室友的留言是：\n海阔凭鱼跃 天高任鸟飞\n多少年过去了，自己的菱角似乎已经被磨平了；\n现在郭的案件，让我不知不觉中卷入；\n我已经开始学会再次打破一切条条框框、打破所有的思维定势；\n什么挺郭砸郭、爱郭害郭，受害者不受害者，你什么都可以做，根本就没有什么条条框框；\n所以现在我走到了直捣黄龙的路上。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8b00b93910920c1dde0b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4f173f325eac356a6d0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b00b93910920c1dde0b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q15acc8433f1fdd9bfe38","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":688,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T07:52:19.185Z","text":"浙大高材生","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc4f173f325eac356a6d0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15acc8433f1fdd9bfe38","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4f173f325eac356a6d0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q8b76e73cbf1b8234d8eb","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":689,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2025-12-09T07:53:03.701Z","text":"联盟有点急，急死了，就差没直接说你们翻案组用AI是不行滴，螺丝哥瑞恩你们这样搞七哥要出来，他们一群人急啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6c33896dc7b20909e973","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b76e73cbf1b8234d8eb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c33896dc7b20909e973","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qbc30f0bbd4db9e0add38","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":690,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T07:53:28.579Z","text":"韭菜没割完 老郭就出来了 你们不讲武德啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8b76e73cbf1b8234d8eb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc30f0bbd4db9e0add38","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b76e73cbf1b8234d8eb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qc431d90555234394925c","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":691,"speaker":"ben***","date":"2025-12-09T08:24:56.301Z","text":"要给予受害者郭文贵合法的保护与赔偿才是他们立刻必须做的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaf02b1f9f51ad5213f9f","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc431d90555234394925c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q443bf137da7a1a36aeab","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":692,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T08:54:15.406Z","text":"现在先别想这么多😄","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc431d90555234394925c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q443bf137da7a1a36aeab","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc431d90555234394925c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q1e963702aa5262803dca","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":693,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T09:14:57.328Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]  gtv无罪的终极原因我终于知道了！","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e963702aa5262803dca","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qe23f112e34ce27139b79","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":694,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T09:15:19.927Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 和我在做的深水炸弹有关！","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe23f112e34ce27139b79","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qe582a7c9fe0b75f3d0d4","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":695,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T09:15:24.018Z","text":"gtv必须无罪！！！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe582a7c9fe0b75f3d0d4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q1727b7d7c4ac652f5781","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":696,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T09:15:53.536Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]  和yijian hu有关","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1727b7d7c4ac652f5781","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q84be907a1580db54ac84","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":697,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-12-09T09:16:41.494Z","text":"陪审团可不知道你说得炸弹💣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84be907a1580db54ac84","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q79defd1f5e2714348412","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":698,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T09:17:00.595Z","text":"如果陪审团判gtv有罪","edited":false,"reply_to":"q84be907a1580db54ac84","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79defd1f5e2714348412","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84be907a1580db54ac84","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q41c158f83e124c661177","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":699,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T09:17:06.516Z","text":"当场就可以翻案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41c158f83e124c661177","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qae422bbaa8d5a3b85dcb","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":700,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T09:17:20.043Z","text":"我是不知道怎么引导的陪审团","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae422bbaa8d5a3b85dcb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q1495069acb9106ca89f2","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":701,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T09:18:14.213Z","text":"陪审团都是普通人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1495069acb9106ca89f2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q04ac541a339f2094fd7c","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":702,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T09:18:22.793Z","text":"他们想不了那么多","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q04ac541a339f2094fd7c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q55fdb3802aeb687cd8b5","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":703,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T09:18:39.470Z","text":"当然 法官可以说 民事案gtv和解了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55fdb3802aeb687cd8b5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q5760765f69ac0c5b4b0d","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":704,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T09:19:27.025Z","text":"班农也切割了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5760765f69ac0c5b4b0d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q966afc5015ea315488f0","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":705,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T09:20:02.378Z","text":"我的深水炸弹扔出去之后会公布为什么gtv必须无罪","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1495069acb9106ca89f2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q966afc5015ea315488f0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1495069acb9106ca89f2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q5abfa5f8543cdc377820","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":706,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-09T09:22:09.115Z","text":"在PACER上从哪看二巡给我的回复？ [删节：隐私信息] [删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5abfa5f8543cdc377820","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q6f9956d581087f61a0e9","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":707,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T09:25:05.140Z","text":"陪审团只能根据庭审中他们看到的证人证词加上法官给他们的instruction来做判断。如果是因为意见虎，那么为什么gclub和hcoin有罪呢，意见虎也投资了那些东西。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f9956d581087f61a0e9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qeede8f238f2504e851cf","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":708,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T09:27:06.341Z","text":"你确定？？？！！！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6f9956d581087f61a0e9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeede8f238f2504e851cf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f9956d581087f61a0e9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q0773b63657262c7c3b74","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":709,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T09:27:14.437Z","text":"yijianhu 投资了那些东西？？？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0773b63657262c7c3b74","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q0898e5adbaf25a271c3e","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":710,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T09:27:25.132Z","text":"据说班农最近表扬了阎天使，不知真假","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5760765f69ac0c5b4b0d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0898e5adbaf25a271c3e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5760765f69ac0c5b4b0d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qee45012fa501427c6719","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":711,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T09:27:45.950Z","text":"意见虎不只投资了gtv","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0773b63657262c7c3b74","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee45012fa501427c6719","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0773b63657262c7c3b74","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qab4991a6ced4d410d12b","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":712,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T09:28:00.589Z","text":"这是巨大漏洞！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab4991a6ced4d410d12b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q4c01e16dd17a5a86467d","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":713,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T09:28:23.119Z","text":"我不觉得gtv无罪是因为意见虎","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c01e16dd17a5a86467d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q1d577e4f53e92439dcf9","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":714,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T09:29:36.182Z","text":"Pacer就可以看了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5abfa5f8543cdc377820","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d577e4f53e92439dcf9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5abfa5f8543cdc377820","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qb55c584b07b99d9561ad","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":715,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T09:29:51.422Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 法庭上出现yijian hu 投资gclub的信息了吗？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb55c584b07b99d9561ad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qf855b8bb9f5a17b83856","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":716,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T09:29:53.843Z","text":"但是如果有判决，南区会上传","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf855b8bb9f5a17b83856","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qa9eed6233eb9b6dae312","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":717,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-09T09:30:07.311Z","text":"不会用啊，在哪个位置看","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1d577e4f53e92439dcf9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa9eed6233eb9b6dae312","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d577e4f53e92439dcf9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q6a7d41b6f9f5bca220d8","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":718,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T09:30:13.756Z","text":"有啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb55c584b07b99d9561ad","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a7d41b6f9f5bca220d8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb55c584b07b99d9561ad","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q3666900450f140fc7763","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":719,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T09:30:52.721Z","text":"必须注册pacer","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa9eed6233eb9b6dae312","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3666900450f140fc7763","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa9eed6233eb9b6dae312","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qb132ed391c907661b8b6","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":720,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-09T09:31:52.188Z","text":"注册了也激活了，但是没找到在哪绑定信用卡，也不知道在哪看法庭的回复","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3666900450f140fc7763","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb132ed391c907661b8b6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3666900450f140fc7763","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q19fa078bf86ca2dddb42","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":721,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T09:32:26.053Z","text":"到二巡的pacer网页，查你的案件号就可以了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb132ed391c907661b8b6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19fa078bf86ca2dddb42","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb132ed391c907661b8b6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q44717f71e20516a97a47","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":722,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T09:32:54.449Z","text":"信用卡去你的pacer账户就可以绑定","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44717f71e20516a97a47","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qc349f25bb85125787fee","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":723,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-09T09:33:12.744Z","text":"去二巡官网看，不是在pacer看？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q19fa078bf86ca2dddb42","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc349f25bb85125787fee","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19fa078bf86ca2dddb42","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q4ba0232b07203dbb1c75","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":724,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T09:34:30.765Z","text":"https://pacer.login.uscourts.gov/csologin/login.jsf?pscCourtId=02CA&appurl=https%3A%2F%2Fecf.ca2.uscourts.gov%2Fn%2Fbeam%2Fservlet%2FTransportRoom%3Fservlet%3DCaseSearch.jsp","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ba0232b07203dbb1c75","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q05ea2b8d7d74068dd0dc","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":725,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T09:38:47.545Z","text":"郭的案子很简单，如果新律师团队一直不作为，不提司法欺诈和布雷迪违规，无效辩护就可以直接推翻","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05ea2b8d7d74068dd0dc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":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现在推翻的法律工具太他妈多了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q05ea2b8d7d74068dd0dc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3398665aae02a922f0cd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05ea2b8d7d74068dd0dc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q88e387e77bb094ff91e6","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":730,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T09:39:28.950Z","text":"多到数不过来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q88e387e77bb094ff91e6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q462edde8ccf7ccf60bb5","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":731,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T09:39:41.189Z","text":"所以这个案子不是推翻不推翻","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q462edde8ccf7ccf60bb5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q89333a3c0b229c133b2d","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":732,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T09:39:49.624Z","text":"而是怎么推翻的更大更牛逼","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q89333a3c0b229c133b2d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qe4075b8d374a82e1c0b0","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":733,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T09:39:52.970Z","text":"现在就是拖，除了拖时间他们毫无办法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe4075b8d374a82e1c0b0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qb16210cbbc690fb423be","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":734,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T09:39:57.441Z","text":"更能书写宏大的历史","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb16210cbbc690fb423be","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q54cf74c0960bd17de1c0","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":735,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T09:40:01.034Z","text":"对的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe4075b8d374a82e1c0b0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54cf74c0960bd17de1c0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe4075b8d374a82e1c0b0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q526681bbb543641bd5e5","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":736,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T09:40:19.848Z","text":"因为一旦量刑，马上可以翻，手段太多了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q526681bbb543641bd5e5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qba39d6cf7524d9df8cb0","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":737,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T09:40:47.109Z","text":"不过我查过机器人 就算量刑后 如果第三方不打强心剂 老郭律师一样半死不活","edited":false,"reply_to":"q526681bbb543641bd5e5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba39d6cf7524d9df8cb0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q526681bbb543641bd5e5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q35a866d8a6ec019cc438","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":738,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T09:41:13.116Z","text":"律师无效辩护，被告自己提出rule33","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35a866d8a6ec019cc438","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q721ed3831050b67bc3f5","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":739,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T09:41:21.994Z","text":"哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q721ed3831050b67bc3f5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qa93b43ad69b42d7c56e5","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":740,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T09:41:25.883Z","text":"要真的这样","edited":false,"reply_to":"q35a866d8a6ec019cc438","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa93b43ad69b42d7c56e5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35a866d8a6ec019cc438","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q41636d756a9580228a57","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":741,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T09:41:31.956Z","text":"三波律师全场社死","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41636d756a9580228a57","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q579e137efcb8cbbb613d","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":742,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T09:41:50.639Z","text":"这不就证明了 我说的 三波律师不如一个受害人 🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q579e137efcb8cbbb613d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q05eca1e89a897b809b76","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":743,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T09:45:15.898Z","text":"700文件一出，基本上就是时间问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05eca1e89a897b809b76","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qb396d25be4c7f2373d7d","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":744,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T09:45:37.267Z","text":"这点你是对的，无效辩护就可以翻案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb396d25be4c7f2373d7d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q64fbd8db6a72082d021b","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":745,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T09:46:05.144Z","text":"但他们肯定对郭进行干扰","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64fbd8db6a72082d021b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qbb10bd5a98dd8f61abdf","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":746,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T09:46:13.668Z","text":"老律师团队无效辩护是肯定了，新律师团队还有时间，但是一旦量刑，就没有了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb10bd5a98dd8f61abdf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q1fd3de182623f1d3b537","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":747,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T09:46:21.579Z","text":"他自己英文也不灵 如果光这一点 还是不稳","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1fd3de182623f1d3b537","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qc5f3c15e2411f4c12ec1","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":748,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T09:47:09.900Z","text":"英文不好没关系","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5f3c15e2411f4c12ec1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q8d21d883e681beb52017","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":749,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T09:47:30.113Z","text":"郭英文不好，700文件不也出来了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d21d883e681beb52017","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q36c249fd25045fdc1768","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":750,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T09:47:50.993Z","text":"700文件是书记员记录的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36c249fd25045fdc1768","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q905b54c21b8791990537","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":751,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T09:47:54.209Z","text":"rule33得自己写吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q905b54c21b8791990537","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qc1c0ebce8bbf2ef39195","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":752,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T09:48:03.511Z","text":"他可以找吹逼老爹帮忙？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1c0ebce8bbf2ef39195","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q2e721477d39904ceb73d","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":753,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T09:48:30.506Z","text":"那之前无效辩护翻案的被告，翻案动议都是谁写的？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e721477d39904ceb73d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qd166ef60a83c42e7bb1b","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":754,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T09:48:58.730Z","text":"这个得研究研究了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2e721477d39904ceb73d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd166ef60a83c42e7bb1b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e721477d39904ceb73d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q53d727e366d1766f3a41","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":755,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T09:49:12.000Z","text":"律师是不是要尊重客户，如果客户要打无效辩护，律师要帮忙写动议啊？😆","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53d727e366d1766f3a41","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q7b9276bf20eedee5e006","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":756,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T09:49:42.290Z","text":"700不也是郭的老律师团队配合，才出来的？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b9276bf20eedee5e006","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q1c75789390d6d598ef2f","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":757,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T09:49:52.515Z","text":"700 [屏蔽词]丽娜在场？","edited":true,"reply_to":"q7b9276bf20eedee5e006","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c75789390d6d598ef2f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b9276bf20eedee5e006","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q12c6d7c8f1476136a9ef","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":758,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T09:50:02.997Z","text":"听证会，律师都在","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12c6d7c8f1476136a9ef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q0df4b591b05c33b57bda","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":759,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T09:55:10.403Z","text":"一般来说，在美国刑事案件中，因“无效辩护”（Ineffective Assistance of Counsel, IAC）而成功翻案的案件，其翻案动议（post-conviction motion）通常不是被告本人写的。写动议的人通常分成以下几类：\n\n\n---\n\n✅ 1. 上诉律师（Appellate Counsel）\n\n这是最常见的情况。\n\n被告原审律师被指控“辩护无效”，因此动议几乎一定由新的上诉律师来写，而不是原律师。\n\n这些上诉律师会：\n\n研究全案记录（transcripts、证据）\n\n评估原审律师是否违反 Strickland v. Washington 标准\n（即表现不合理 + 导致结果受影响）\n\n撰写 2255、Rule 33、或州级 habeas corpus 动议\n\n提出证据听证（evidentiary hearing）请求\n\n\n绝大多数成功翻案的 IAC 案件都是上诉律师写的。\n\n\n---\n\n✅ 2. 专门从事定罪后救济的律师（Post-Conviction Attorneys）\n\n有些律师专门做：\n\n联邦 28 U.S.C. § 2255 动议\n\n州级 habeas corpus\n\nRule 33 新审判动议\n\nIAC 专项挑战\n\n\n这类律师的专业度通常比一般律师更高，因为 IAC 案件属于技术性强的领域。\n\n\n---\n\n✅ 3. 法学院法律诊所（Law School Clinics）\n\n一些成功翻案的案件由：\n\nInnocence Project（无辜者计划）\n\n大学法学院的上诉与救济中心\n\n\n来写动议。\n\n这些团队会：\n\n调查错误定罪\n\n提供免费法律服务\n\n撰写 IAC 或检方不当行为（Brady、Napue 等）动议\n\n\n\n---\n\n✅ 4. 非营利组织、公益律师（Pro Bono Attorneys）\n\n有些案件非常复杂（例如谋杀、强奸等重罪），费用极高，被告无钱支付律师时，可能由：\n\n公益组织\n\n法律援助机构\n\n志愿律师\n\n\n来撰写翻案动议。\n\n\n---\n\n❗️ 5. 被告本人（Pro Se）写的情况极少成功\n\n虽然法律允许被告自己（pro se）提交动议，但统计上：\n\n成功翻案的 IAC 动议几乎从未由被告自己撰写并成功\n\n因为 IAC 是法律门槛最高、证据要求最严格的翻案理由之一\n\n\n即使被告自己写了，法院也通常会指派律师帮助处理复杂部分。\n\n\n---\n\n📌 为什么动议必须由新律师写？\n\n因为：\n\n原律师不能合理地为自己辩护\n\nIAC 需要专业审查原律师的失误（策略失误 vs 不合理错误）\n\n需要提出专业证据，如：\n\n专家律师证词\n\n标准程序对比\n\n原审文件审查结果\n\n\n\n因此，法院几乎不接受原律师继续代理 IAC。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0df4b591b05c33b57bda","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q6de1431303d6761f9417","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":760,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T09:56:12.478Z","text":"新律师写","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6de1431303d6761f9417","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qba8df80f69c60a215027","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":761,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T09:56:31.660Z","text":"那这俩律师不是直接结下梁子？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba8df80f69c60a215027","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q82f1144c25ad7f30f08a","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":762,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T10:02:30.838Z","text":"专业律师，梁子什么的都是小case","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82f1144c25ad7f30f08a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q1fcf610fbc6bc9a6fc19","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":763,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T10:02:47.888Z","text":"It's business, not personal","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1fcf610fbc6bc9a6fc19","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qa13b074d1ba79b013486","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":764,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-12-09T10:11:54.415Z","text":"luc没有被传唤就可以构成无效辩护，自己写都不是难事。除了格式需要查一下资料。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa13b074d1ba79b013486","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qf1d67c3bb75f0d56a2a6","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":765,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T10:38:42.084Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 无效辩护没用 检方还可以再起诉","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1d67c3bb75f0d56a2a6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q6488e5ace95fc126780a","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":766,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T10:40:45.575Z","text":"是吗？但是这样的案例好像不多","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf1d67c3bb75f0d56a2a6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6488e5ace95fc126780a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1d67c3bb75f0d56a2a6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qe69a10961b6c601bf8f3","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":767,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T10:41:06.362Z","text":"郭案的话检方肯定会再起诉","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6488e5ace95fc126780a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe69a10961b6c601bf8f3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6488e5ace95fc126780a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qb14466169c51e393cdb0","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":768,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T10:41:07.760Z","text":"给[删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":"qd4469fe3ec70a97bc5c2","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb14466169c51e393cdb0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q18cd33ad542504deec0c","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":769,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T10:41:36.783Z","text":"我觉得检方现在避之不及","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe69a10961b6c601bf8f3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18cd33ad542504deec0c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe69a10961b6c601bf8f3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q8ec81caf93cafa7b4abb","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":770,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T10:42:55.594Z","text":"我的意思 就是说 我们如果不闹事","edited":false,"reply_to":"q18cd33ad542504deec0c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ec81caf93cafa7b4abb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18cd33ad542504deec0c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q57dcd7b99e0d27c1581b","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":771,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T10:43:13.136Z","text":"无效辩护肯定是没用的 检方还能再起诉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q57dcd7b99e0d27c1581b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q13b3b0f4502a0fec0c5b","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":772,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T10:43:39.638Z","text":"就算无效辩护，也需要确凿的证据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13b3b0f4502a0fec0c5b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q9959cd214cddf85be999","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":773,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T10:43:56.103Z","text":"但在我们闹事的前提下 就别打无效辩护了 这个太弱了😄","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9959cd214cddf85be999","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qaa8a84cf2b9ed5b6a1d9","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":774,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T10:44:19.079Z","text":"二巡都没说司法欺诈不存在","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa8a84cf2b9ed5b6a1d9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q62757c8985232a91d880","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":775,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T10:44:27.238Z","text":"直接往这挖就行了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62757c8985232a91d880","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q67eaff5a2154e04aff38","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":776,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T10:44:29.977Z","text":"除了无效辩护，还有很多可以用的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67eaff5a2154e04aff38","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q38ecd5dff4ce63efda47","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":777,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T10:44:35.737Z","text":"太多了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q67eaff5a2154e04aff38","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38ecd5dff4ce63efda47","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67eaff5a2154e04aff38","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qc66f6d338aa95a62abd9","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":778,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T10:47:08.866Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 我再告诉你一个 今天我发现的惊天秘密","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc66f6d338aa95a62abd9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qafc84bbb9448ec222946","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":779,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T10:47:26.072Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 二巡不是说 我不满足切尼 让我rule60d 量刑后再来","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qafc84bbb9448ec222946","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qef6c1451f9be5d76b5bd","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":780,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T10:48:12.246Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 结果我今天突然想到 什么时候二巡可以用切尼卡人 是程序正常的时候 尼玛rule60d 本来就说明是司法欺诈 司法欺诈你还用切尼卡个屁","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef6c1451f9be5d76b5bd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q647f5b5a4e8931d6a0ca","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":781,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T10:48:31.004Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 二巡为什么天天讲这种证明你妈是你妈的话","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q647f5b5a4e8931d6a0ca","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q43fb77c40b8e2b4dcc51","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":782,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T10:48:58.350Z","text":"二巡也没否认司法欺诈存在","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43fb77c40b8e2b4dcc51","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q4ad9b0e0926d62b9633a","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":783,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T10:49:10.092Z","text":"那都司法欺诈了 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七哥以后会分你500个币 娶老婆用","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d0c62893a64957b9583","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qb9030736a9b86be4ec71","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":796,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T10:58:49.756Z","text":"瑞恩都砸锅了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2d0c62893a64957b9583","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9030736a9b86be4ec71","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d0c62893a64957b9583","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q363dc2249849173ab3d3","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":797,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T10:59:17.881Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]是瑞恩的唯一归宿","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q363dc2249849173ab3d3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q65817e4465a3d15b71d8","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":798,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T10:59:27.236Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 有问题","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65817e4465a3d15b71d8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q085dfb3e1a4f8f8426ba","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":799,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-12-09T11:01:03.425Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]也是个赛道 挺好的","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q085dfb3e1a4f8f8426ba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q82d29581ecdbbfa51428","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":800,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T11:01:12.234Z","text":"二巡在瞎扯","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82d29581ecdbbfa51428","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000061","next_batch_id":"batch-000063"}