{"id":"batch-000062","number":62,"revision":1,"date_start":"2025-12-06T16:50:39.536Z","date_end":"2025-12-10T01:33:50.436Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 062 (Dec 6, 2025 – Dec 10, 2025), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. From Dec 6 to Dec 10, 2025, batch 62 debates United States v. GUO, 1:23-cr-00118, over Torres handling of third-party filings and whether it is procedural delay or a merits shift. Participants dispute pro se versus counsel strategy, §853(n) and CVRA scope, and filing-count/docketing disputes. Rule 60(d)(3) tactics are also contested, with references to markers 733, 765, 766 and Cheney v. U.S. Dist. Ct. for D.C. 542 U.S. 367. Community statements, not court findings. Community statements, not court findings.","guide_en":[{"title":"Case status and second-circuit boundary: whether Torres is on the record and whether the court should defer merits review while waiting","description":"him*** argues the second-circuit route is a non-final procedural posture after Torres-related submissions, while others claim the practical meaning is disputed around independent petitioners and strategy sequencing. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q55165aa4019de75bc9e4","q18c3aa11a09c89878e5c","q8f224f5fe5e47abc5f08"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q55165aa4019de75bc9e4","summary_en":"him*** contends the August 11 order gave third parties a 60-day §853(n) window, many filed pro se materials were not accepted, the second circuit said it was not yet ripe, and it appears the district court may be tested again if filings continue to be resisted. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q18c3aa11a09c89878e5c","summary_en":"him*** claims hiring counsel normally means taking the whole case and ongoing payments, not just a single motion. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q8f224f5fe5e47abc5f08","summary_en":"him*** asks whether mandamus petitioners in the second circuit are independent participants. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"AI reliability and evidentiary re-check conflict: prior conclusions versus follow-up evidence","description":"him*** and others claim AI-based inferences are contested, with participants disputing whether AI outputs can be treated as validated legal evidence or require repeated confirmation from the group. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qa042d19d42a6b343439e","q9a341dc5b3bd71b7a2e1","q5dbdfb0853c52ec2c0d4"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qa042d19d42a6b343439e","summary_en":"him*** demands a reciprocity condition for replies, signaling he will evaluate the AI-based claim only after his own question is answered first. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q9a341dc5b3bd71b7a2e1","summary_en":"him*** asks another participant to confirm whether the cited assertion is correct. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q5dbdfb0853c52ec2c0d4","summary_en":"him*** says he will respond only after the other person says the prior points are correct, showing a procedural-style challenge in the AI evidence exchange. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Pro se and third-party participation boundary: self-filed filings, standing, and institutional risk","description":"him*** argues pro se filing is being treated as a strategic response to abnormal court processing, while others contend counsel and third-party access each carry distinct risks that must be balanced before committing. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q9651ec8257fccb27cdfc","q0dc4cf6c738c8e247dbc","qed93ab3fed7d921fe4a7"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q9651ec8257fccb27cdfc","summary_en":"him*** describes a systemic “abnormal case” pattern where filings are not docketed consistently and argues that most pro se risks stem from case-specific process failures, while also listing pro se advantages like retained standing under §853(n)/CVRA, direct record creation, and cost control. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q0dc4cf6c738c8e247dbc","summary_en":"rui*** says a non-party figure was also brought into the filing process. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qed93ab3fed7d921fe4a7","summary_en":"rui*** claims there are roughly several hundred third-party documents involved. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Dispute over the “self-prosecution trap”: whether it equals sentence escalation","description":"him*** asks for a distinction between ordinary pro se risk and a “self-prosecution trap,” while rui*** claims the trap is a narrative and strategic threat intended to keep pressure on Guo. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q3d7cb7b60a430efaf663","q2477e88e3454402daeac","q6ea186349c03d9a59def"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q3d7cb7b60a430efaf663","summary_en":"him*** disputes whether “self-prosecution risk” and “self-prosecution trap” are the same concept. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q2477e88e3454402daeac","summary_en":"him*** asks if the distinction point is understood, pressing for confirmation. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q6ea186349c03d9a59def","summary_en":"rui*** contends that self-prosecution is being used to keep Guo continuously exposed, which he frames as the core trap. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Filing archival and document-count dispute: whether 300/500/88/215 items were filed and compliant","description":"Participants argue over docket records and count integrity, with him*** and others claiming many documents were sent for filing while others dispute classification between prosecution framing and third-party submissions. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qf8a5385812e93d155c47","q5ca4f55a44161caa6d8b","q4ea2ca0390bbca9fc99a"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qf8a5385812e93d155c47","summary_en":"rui*** asks whether hundreds of Wang Yanping’s filings were missing or disappeared. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q5ca4f55a44161caa6d8b","summary_en":"him*** argues that roughly 300 mailed submissions should have been docketed. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q4ea2ca0390bbca9fc99a","summary_en":"him*** questions whether the prosecutor’s “88+215” references correspond to pro se submissions. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"853n access disputes: who controls the filing set and whether it should be provided","description":"him*** and rui*** dispute the handling of §853(n) materials, with claims that control is judicial while others infer practical non-delivery of filings despite claims they were provided by third parties. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qa40f558586f61b128836","q4ccb55a0b8815f3da108","q822f6231342063bd6d4d"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qa40f558586f61b128836","summary_en":"him*** says 215 documents lacked explicit §853(n) citation and may simply be third-party submissions resisting forfeiture without proper legal framing. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q4ccb55a0b8815f3da108","summary_en":"him*** states that §853(n) matters are court-administered. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q822f6231342063bd6d4d","summary_en":"him*** asserts that none of the disputed materials were uploaded. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Sentencing goal and reversal-route split: sentence escalation versus procedural trajectory","description":"Participants dispute whether strategy is aimed at increasing punishment or preserving a procedural pathway, with some asserting a sentence-raising trajectory while others emphasize post-conviction filing sequencing. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qec92b5904dd03352081b","q6f4a84ccdfa80d5523c5","q6ea186349c03d9a59def"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qec92b5904dd03352081b","summary_en":"rui*** claims that participants in the channel are in effect pushing for a higher sentence for Guo. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q6f4a84ccdfa80d5523c5","summary_en":"rui*** asks how avoiding the trap still allows Guo to remain constrained, signaling skepticism toward process-only strategies. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q6ea186349c03d9a59def","summary_en":"rui*** repeats that self-prosecution is meant to leave Guo in prolonged confinement. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Statute and timing node dispute: two-week upload silence, Rule 60 concerns, and reasonable timelines","description":"him*** and rui*** dispute timing benchmarks, with one side warning that two-week non-upload could trigger deeper conflict with the second circuit and another side noting there may be no statutory filing deadline for the CVRA timing at issue. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q6f4a548a85bc928b6dca","q2203f4d0f2369c501750","q86009ec94adae3943459"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q6f4a548a85bc928b6dca","summary_en":"rui*** says a two-week period without upload could indicate the matter is moving toward direct confrontation with the second circuit. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q2203f4d0f2369c501750","summary_en":"him*** asks what counts as a reasonable time for CVRA motion filing/processing. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q86009ec94adae3943459","summary_en":"rui*** responds that there is no fixed statutory time for that timing question. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Appeal and second-circuit review scope conflict: merits-only versus procedural-only review","description":"him*** and rui*** contest whether appellate focus is procedural correction or merits review, and whether counsel quality affects whether this stage should pursue another petition or reserve strategy. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q2b05db32d601c6f6d29e","q9e981898f7dcea927e06","q50a1fee8bde2c26b4baf"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q2b05db32d601c6f6d29e","summary_en":"him*** asks to review the exact text of a mandamus order, signalling a dispute over how narrowly or broadly it should be interpreted. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q9e981898f7dcea927e06","summary_en":"rui*** shares text of a denied pro se mandamus petition, stating the court found no clear and indisputable entitlement and denied relief under the Cheney standard. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q50a1fee8bde2c26b4baf","summary_en":"him*** recommends a near-retirement lawyer for Guo, implying counsel type is part of the strategic disagreement. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Victim definition debate: investors, supporters, and participants under CVRA framing","description":"Participants dispute how CVRA and related victim language should apply, with some contesting broad victim labeling and others asserting prosecution-style treatment of all impacted parties. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q7c990a378069481c3306","q4a9b4a513f9d63feb611","q9b8126b581fb537976b4"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q7c990a378069481c3306","summary_en":"chu*** argues ordinary cases do not require victim participation and says he was effectively forced into a victim-like position by court injunctions in this case. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q4a9b4a513f9d63feb611","summary_en":"him*** relays a claim that non-victim participants can be cast as co-actors and that prosecutors rejected those who deny victim status. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q9b8126b581fb537976b4","summary_en":"him*** states that, from a legal perspective, prosecutors describe everyone as a victim. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Community governance and identity conflict: flooding, private linkage, and identity inference escalation","description":"Community participants claim discussion quality is being undermined by repeated strategic pivots, identity accusations, and private-channel targeting, disputing whether such social conflict is a side effect or a core governance failure of the group. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q343d1f9717c9745503fe","q98a35e86c07cfd615f1a","q94b055314de0c14a19a5"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q343d1f9717c9745503fe","summary_en":"ntp*** says this is a tactical shift, indicating a claimed change in discussion track. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q98a35e86c07cfd615f1a","summary_en":"nin*** expresses uncertainty about whether participants have been misidentified. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q94b055314de0c14a19a5","summary_en":"chu*** tells one participant to stop debating here and move abuse elsewhere, highlighting escalation in group moderation norms. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Political narrative and media expectation conflict: political node versus narrow procedural case","description":"him*** and rui*** dispute whether this is a political-security moment shaped by state narratives or primarily a procedural anomaly, with participants arguing about government influence and likely media framing. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q94af8ca04bfe0396e727","q7deffae73cb10da7bdda","q9c17f36755de8d0169c4"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q94af8ca04bfe0396e727","summary_en":"him*** argues the group should not rely on government guidance. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q7deffae73cb10da7bdda","summary_en":"rui*** predicts mainstream media will report the matter explosively in coming months. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q9c17f36755de8d0169c4","summary_en":"gun*** claims government national-security strategy leaves Guo with no remaining political path, emphasizing a political-judicial framing. Community statements, not court findings."}]}],"summary":"讨论围绕郭案后续路径出现明显裂变，核心不在单一事实真伪，而在程序与叙事取向。部分参与者将焦点放在 pro se/第三方自诉与二巡程序卡点：从 Torres 入卷、动议被退回、文书未及时 docket、材料“消失”到 853n 管理与提交边界，进而推演是否触发 Rule60/Cheney/CVRA 的再起诉或再审路线。另有成员强调检方与法院程序瑕疵、Brady疑点与政治化风险。围绕 AI 分析是否可直接采信、受害者定义是否覆盖投资者与支持者、量刑目标是规避风险还是推升刑期、以及无效辩护与律师团队能力，形成多条对立路径。与此同时群内身份争执、私聊连坐与媒体化预期使争论由“法律策略”进一步演化为群体治理与舆论博弈。","guide":[{"title":"案件状态与二巡裁判边界：Torres是否入卷、是否先不实质裁决并等待后续","message_ids":["q55165aa4019de75bc9e4","q18c3aa11a09c89878e5c","q8f224f5fe5e47abc5f08"]},{"title":"AI分析可信度与证据复核冲突：先验结论与后补截图的对抗式沟通持续","message_ids":["qa042d19d42a6b343439e","q9a341dc5b3bd71b7a2e1","q5dbdfb0853c52ec2c0d4"]},{"title":"pro 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他就必须承认rule60d不能用","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf87d332d47512bab5cff","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qf67d076f16b610732313","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":803,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T11:02:01.065Z","text":"因为司法欺诈不存在切尼才能用","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf67d076f16b610732313","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qdfab6be6d7054fa65157","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":804,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T11:02:15.806Z","text":"但他又说量刑后 再来rule60d 也就是说司法欺诈存在","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdfab6be6d7054fa65157","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q17222bfd5198081c9bc2","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":805,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T11:02:38.976Z","text":"这二巡醉了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17222bfd5198081c9bc2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qc5adc0254ce8f34c3af7","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":806,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T11:02:43.783Z","text":"就是政客","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5adc0254ce8f34c3af7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q99e3ce725878f826c602","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":807,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T11:04:06.777Z","text":"不觉得切尼和司法欺诈有什么关系","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf67d076f16b610732313","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99e3ce725878f826c602","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf67d076f16b610732313","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q77091b5759d8e1fac408","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":808,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T11:04:25.738Z","text":"存在司法欺诈就不能用切尼来卡人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q99e3ce725878f826c602","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77091b5759d8e1fac408","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99e3ce725878f826c602","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qbb382142e9ebcde95eae","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":809,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T11:04:34.441Z","text":"这是切尼里面写的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb382142e9ebcde95eae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q3f91060e9ba678e4c82c","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":810,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T11:04:51.577Z","text":"切尼的意思是说，你必须在地区法院用尽了手段，并且证明地区法院永远不会满足你的要求了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f91060e9ba678e4c82c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q1004e50cfe12f168b143","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":811,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T11:05:15.350Z","text":"但这是在程序合法的情况下 让你证明","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3f91060e9ba678e4c82c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1004e50cfe12f168b143","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f91060e9ba678e4c82c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q296e3b386bb146a65f6d","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":812,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T11:05:25.827Z","text":"司法欺诈存在的话 这一条不能用","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q296e3b386bb146a65f6d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qb6918093c76645e5cf8d","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":813,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T11:05:31.482Z","text":"切尼三条：1. 证明你的要求必须被满足 2.证明地区法院永远不会满足你 3. 忘了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb6918093c76645e5cf8d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q176e2d896f1952ad3132","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":814,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T11:06:21.453Z","text":"二巡，不会看你的动议内容。就算看内容，也是用来判断地方法院是不是在合理时间内没有满足你的要求","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q176e2d896f1952ad3132","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q7b800db3f8fe1f1d366c","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":815,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T11:06:58.745Z","text":"不是内容 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pro se, has filed a petition for a writ of mandamus directing the district court to cease\n      suppressing his future filings, docket his submitted but undocketed motions, and rule on his\n      pending Rule 60(d)(3) motion. Upon due consideration, it is hereby ORDERED that the\n      mandamus petition is DENIED because Petitioner has not demonstrated that his right to the writ\n      is clear and indisputable, and that granting the writ is appropriate under the circumstances. See\n      Cheney v. U.S. Dist. 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切尼就不能用","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91cb2810aa70db038a93","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q3cb9423524292ffe26f4","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":835,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T11:11:31.784Z","text":"这个逻辑圆不了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3cb9423524292ffe26f4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qe2049dbb1f5d395d6b98","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":836,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T11:11:37.662Z","text":"你没搞懂切尼是什么意思","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2049dbb1f5d395d6b98","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qc42927fe09e6f0e111fe","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":837,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T11:11:57.650Z","text":"切尼的运用条件是没司法欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe2049dbb1f5d395d6b98","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc42927fe09e6f0e111fe","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2049dbb1f5d395d6b98","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qebecedf12929c1195358","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":838,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T11:12:05.528Z","text":"有司法欺诈就不能用切尼","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qebecedf12929c1195358","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q83a1cd2edea38b93e3d2","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":839,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T11:12:12.926Z","text":"有这么一说吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83a1cd2edea38b93e3d2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q4923829135630b1d28de","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":840,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T11:12:28.615Z","text":"有","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4923829135630b1d28de","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q4cfe05bd501efa99d1b7","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":841,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T11:12:37.874Z","text":"那就不知道了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4cfe05bd501efa99d1b7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q61b075b369b76db14173","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":842,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T11:12:47.693Z","text":"切尼只是在正常情况下的标准","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61b075b369b76db14173","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q507edbfda30758fe06ba","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":843,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T11:13:01.402Z","text":"如果程序崩溃 切尼标准是不能用的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q507edbfda30758fe06ba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qc96f3e155965429537a0","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":844,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T11:13:14.457Z","text":"我也是今天才知道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc96f3e155965429537a0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q8d39cecae19fd3b9b801","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":845,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T11:13:19.591Z","text":"所以二巡这就是瞎扯","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d39cecae19fd3b9b801","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qc4cc09bfd3b0329c4e28","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":846,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T11:14:18.190Z","text":"二巡真的很扯","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4cc09bfd3b0329c4e28","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q5ec3582aab050cdca2f3","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":847,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T11:18:27.633Z","text":"我明白了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ec3582aab050cdca2f3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q7dae4908b4810a71c52d","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":848,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T11:18:50.495Z","text":"二巡这是想让我再打一遍","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7dae4908b4810a71c52d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q121e0d9d97485dfb8c3d","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":849,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T11:19:13.469Z","text":"用案例法 说 司法欺诈破坏了切尼的前置条件 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我的判决出来就两周了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ac80318b6fb3e987ae1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qf11e6b6a091e72bfa44e","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":876,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T15:46:47.458Z","text":"这托雷斯是铁了心犯上作乱了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf11e6b6a091e72bfa44e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q990b4f028ec72e232dcd","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":877,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-12-09T15:48:16.842Z","text":"这次让她真脱雷丝了，加油","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5ac80318b6fb3e987ae1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q990b4f028ec72e232dcd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ac80318b6fb3e987ae1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q7013bf1f8732f0ff1766","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":878,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T16:06:26.487Z","text":"法官可能在纳闷，为什么辩方那边什么动静都没有？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qebf937b5954533a4a00f","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7013bf1f8732f0ff1766","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q25632d3b6bf8c017e822","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":879,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T16:06:51.585Z","text":"法官可不会纳闷😄","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7013bf1f8732f0ff1766","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25632d3b6bf8c017e822","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7013bf1f8732f0ff1766","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q42a893f914c68cd2f1d3","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":880,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T16:07:09.778Z","text":"南区黑帮向来没有律师敢挑战","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42a893f914c68cd2f1d3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qb1027f4fec415c3b4224","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":881,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T16:08:30.053Z","text":"之前打给一个律师，律师说她和南区法院有利益冲突，除非是要钱，不然她不可能挑战南区","edited":false,"reply_to":"q42a893f914c68cd2f1d3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1027f4fec415c3b4224","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42a893f914c68cd2f1d3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qb2a00539a699a9512ac7","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":882,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T16:09:35.382Z","text":"但老郭律师没利益冲突怎么还啥都不干","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2a00539a699a9512ac7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q16dd010f74dc8da52a98","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":883,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T16:11:16.364Z","text":"老郭的律师选的太差了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16dd010f74dc8da52a98","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qe1de76c9dd8c467f09e6","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":884,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T16:11:40.536Z","text":"老郭就应该选那种律师执照已经生锈了的 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有这么好赚？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b953cdac83eb516b3e4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q39e091532df5c45a18ee","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":921,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-09T16:31:18.115Z","text":"但是他们会考虑的比较仔细，一定会立案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39e091532df5c45a18ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q45c74120de3f374ca3d0","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":922,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T16:31:33.631Z","text":"那倒是","edited":false,"reply_to":"q39e091532df5c45a18ee","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45c74120de3f374ca3d0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39e091532df5c45a18ee","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q4da2e04ea04f17b72647","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":923,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T16:46:26.108Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge3/status/1998432056205078948?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4da2e04ea04f17b72647","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q74bfa904c89fefb0f441","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":924,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-12-09T16:59:28.382Z","text":"老郭手还能伸到国外啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74bfa904c89fefb0f441","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qc5062beb5837eb7ef38d","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":925,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-12-09T17:20:48.527Z","text":"老郭当年说的那些人 哪个被抓进去了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5062beb5837eb7ef38d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q96b1b19ee27383086e46","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":926,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-09T18:17:55.193Z","text":"注册了pacer 也填了信用卡信息， 但是就是上不去； 说inactive； 刚刚打电话过去， 165个人在等， 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因为历史上没有发生过😄","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4a5332cb365522b24abe","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf77938abd09e996ab1d6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a5332cb365522b24abe","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q62e7c3a3a9ef895941b5","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":935,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-09T18:23:33.301Z","text":"真的？ 怎么知道的这个信息？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62e7c3a3a9ef895941b5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q8bdd2bb5a80445fe8d0d","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":936,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-12-09T18:25:36.402Z","text":"赢麻了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8bdd2bb5a80445fe8d0d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q3c67d5d741bd6b39e96f","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":937,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T18:27:34.569Z","text":"哈哈 稍安勿躁","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3a062076b18f57924daf","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c67d5d741bd6b39e96f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q21228455a17b42de4707","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":938,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-12-09T18:45:19.613Z","text":"等我回本他就胜利了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21228455a17b42de4707","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qacdcb18d387d57d25c64","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":939,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T18:52:29.853Z","text":"案子是死的 人是活的 卷宗都在那 我们天天盯着看 迟早发现问题😄","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf31b66a2fb160ba19e11","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qacdcb18d387d57d25c64","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qa07f1268b8dea97762bf","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":940,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-09T18:59:01.728Z","text":"万事开头难，我还没有看卷宗的脑子。\n而且看卷宗好比看天书，比看学术论文还难。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa07f1268b8dea97762bf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q79279b5e92dbb8fad469","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":941,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-09T19:00:33.354Z","text":"现在还算好点，对于现成的法庭文件，可以用AI 帮助分析。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79279b5e92dbb8fad469","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qa0f0a71faaad5d3b87d0","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":942,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-09T19:19:40.068Z","text":"另外一个战友刚刚收到二巡的deny信 \n\n二巡还贴心的附上了rule 21","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0f0a71faaad5d3b87d0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qb770dbf5a90fe9750a1e","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":943,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T19:20:35.684Z","text":"他是受害者 还是853","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa0f0a71faaad5d3b87d0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb770dbf5a90fe9750a1e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0f0a71faaad5d3b87d0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q43cc6e2f23b36230156d","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":944,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-09T19:20:43.244Z","text":"853","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43cc6e2f23b36230156d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q6ee1609310e7062a88ad","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":945,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T19:20:49.507Z","text":"第二个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ee1609310e7062a88ad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qaccdfcc367540ab34a12","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":946,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T19:21:02.554Z","text":"你们俩都能上最高法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaccdfcc367540ab34a12","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qf5d09b4338d136aaee9c","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":947,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-09T19:21:59.887Z","text":"”in the belief that you intended to file the papers as a motion\nin the United States District Court ”","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5d09b4338d136aaee9c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q47c31f279eb7421e5660","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":948,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-09T19:22:50.850Z","text":"意思是说你先要南区给你 relief","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47c31f279eb7421e5660","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q76d1bc5c636d95f48fcc","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":949,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T19:22:57.960Z","text":"一样的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf5d09b4338d136aaee9c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76d1bc5c636d95f48fcc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5d09b4338d136aaee9c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qe4a5003bd39a56b99025","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":950,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T19:23:00.516Z","text":"对吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe4a5003bd39a56b99025","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qf1bbde769ebdb8545344","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":951,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T19:23:08.444Z","text":"他是853 不是受害者 二巡瞎几把搞","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1bbde769ebdb8545344","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qdd6e0618667d8a3fc5bd","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":952,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T19:23:18.500Z","text":"看都不看","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd6e0618667d8a3fc5bd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q40010be2a0ebe4241c24","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":953,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T19:23:23.820Z","text":"二巡的违规也很多","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40010be2a0ebe4241c24","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q50f9b64ee1a8c4558e8f","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":954,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2025-12-09T20:45:18.689Z","text":"这种情况上高法，能直接上吗？还是也需要先证明在二巡穷尽一切努力未果？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaccdfcc367540ab34a12","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50f9b64ee1a8c4558e8f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaccdfcc367540ab34a12","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q56b6d8b39384197aadf8","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":955,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T20:47:33.366Z","text":"发个回信 指出他们的错误","edited":false,"reply_to":"q50f9b64ee1a8c4558e8f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56b6d8b39384197aadf8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50f9b64ee1a8c4558e8f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qe81c47b8d46cd4d80902","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":956,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2025-12-09T21:01:03.237Z","text":"他收到这封信是二巡签收后多少天？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa0f0a71faaad5d3b87d0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe81c47b8d46cd4d80902","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0f0a71faaad5d3b87d0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qf491db1f824b2d5bfcf9","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":957,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-09T21:17:35.914Z","text":"11/25 收到； 12/1 二巡写信回复","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf491db1f824b2d5bfcf9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qe02f6ee57a7dcd44a0a9","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":958,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T21:18:39.646Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 你大概算一下现在有几个人去二巡？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe02f6ee57a7dcd44a0a9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qb856ff905ddee6c86245","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":959,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-09T21:19:01.482Z","text":"我觉得有10个人左右","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb856ff905ddee6c86245","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q709581292aad96b368e5","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":960,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T21:21:18.727Z","text":"很可观了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb856ff905ddee6c86245","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q709581292aad96b368e5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb856ff905ddee6c86245","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qf8ce320810f50382458b","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":961,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T21:21:38.241Z","text":"sarah一旦砸开最高法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8ce320810f50382458b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q184aac446951b9b19784","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":962,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T21:21:43.845Z","text":"那就不可想象","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q184aac446951b9b19784","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q848075f03f3d72ba63a2","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":963,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T21:21:45.091Z","text":"哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q848075f03f3d72ba63a2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qad22beb123289c5ef7cf","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":964,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T21:22:07.191Z","text":"二巡现在已经知道了 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有没有什么关联？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0a91b9ca24b95b600c8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q68b0827feac1dd4bf187","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":974,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-09T21:40:18.621Z","text":"同姓吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb0a91b9ca24b95b600c8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68b0827feac1dd4bf187","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0a91b9ca24b95b600c8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qf01be034a84be74af3eb","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":975,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-09T21:42:28.206Z","text":"Frankel","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf01be034a84be74af3eb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q0a39463e7aaa26762e4a","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":976,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-09T21:42:41.003Z","text":"FBI","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a39463e7aaa26762e4a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q74d68979362c632613a1","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":977,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-09T21:59:41.683Z","text":"他们都卡着点回复","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaec9e0a3ce607b57709f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74d68979362c632613a1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaec9e0a3ce607b57709f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qa13e6f1853752d1020db","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":978,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-09T22:02:23.284Z","text":"不能做程序员的艺术生做不了好律师","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf31b66a2fb160ba19e11","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa13e6f1853752d1020db","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q81b5b62b9134e152ee35","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":979,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-09T22:24:50.614Z","text":"八卦一下： 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Frankel 是不是有亲戚关系。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd11690f3752193b52b9c","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32c8d55809ae2459b83d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q9c17f36755de8d0169c4","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":983,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-12-09T23:56:16.435Z","text":"兄弟们，川普个大[屏蔽词]的国家安全战略一出，我觉得老郭在政治路径上彻底没路了。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c17f36755de8d0169c4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q2ac1b9062faf77cdedc6","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":984,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-10T00:17:10.290Z","text":"川普的国际战略重点是在亚太。郭先生要消灭共产党的路径从来就没有押在美国： 只要美国不帮共匪就行了。 匪国上下都想要共产党死 那个时刻很快就要到来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ac1b9062faf77cdedc6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qb4060d561af9b9ee31e1","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":985,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-10T00:18:20.733Z","text":"从2017年到现在， 人们对共匪的认识是翻天覆地的  共匪死定了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4060d561af9b9ee31e1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q142d0c187c7fecafd705","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":986,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-12-10T00:20:36.078Z","text":"他要和中共交易，控制歐盟，和當年赫魯曉夫時代一樣，h200都同意賣了，邊緣化班農納瓦羅就證明他的核心戰略不在中共","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q142d0c187c7fecafd705","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q971593669405cdb195f7","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":987,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2025-12-10T00:27:17.779Z","text":"这里是经济案件讨论区，都是来要钱、找法庭上各方麻烦的，没人关心政治。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q971593669405cdb195f7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qc5beca2f8e97573cf6a3","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":988,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-10T00:51:00.354Z","text":"真的天真的以为美国会把最先进的芯片卖给敌人？ 弄不好那些芯片都有后门","edited":false,"reply_to":"q142d0c187c7fecafd705","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5beca2f8e97573cf6a3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q142d0c187c7fecafd705","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"qf8739c12cfeaf46564a1","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":989,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-10T00:52:02.670Z","text":"Finkel和frankel是两个词","edited":false,"reply_to":"q32c8d55809ae2459b83d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8739c12cfeaf46564a1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32c8d55809ae2459b83d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000062"},{"id":"q570ce8b805531741f211","batch_id":"batch-000062","seq":990,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-10T01:00:46.825Z","text":"没有无缘无故的恨 - 他这么卖力， 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