{"id":"batch-000063","number":63,"revision":1,"date_start":"2025-12-10T01:36:06.215Z","date_end":"2025-12-16T02:39:45.805Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 063 (Dec 10, 2025 – Dec 16, 2025), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Discussion centered on competing procedural rights and narrative control, focusing on court filings such as 733 and 774/773 alongside CVRA and §853(n) docketing paths. Participants debated whether prosecution and judicial actions reflected political bias or constituted fraud upon the court. 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counsel receiving tens of thousands of pages of late evidence and contends that the judge showed partiality by failing to exclude those prosecution materials."}]},{"title":"Dispute Over Anti-CCP Slogans and Practical Strategy","description":"Participants dispute the practical effectiveness of repeating anti-CCP slogans versus delivering tangible contributions.","message_ids":["q3e74026eb776591b3685","q1cef25852e970a3ecf86","q7b0e4bad0b4d5974dacc"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q3e74026eb776591b3685","summary_en":"xin*** argues that Trump's strategic posture directly pressures the Chinese Communist Party and questions what actual results the NFSC leadership delivered."},{"message_id":"q1cef25852e970a3ecf86","summary_en":"him*** asserts that only a specific redacted participant is genuinely dedicated to opposing the CCP."},{"message_id":"q7b0e4bad0b4d5974dacc","summary_en":"xin*** asks what practical contributions have been made by those who continually chant anti-CCP 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60(d)(3)、Rule33/29、二巡、上级法院），另一部分更偏向舆情动员或快审预判，未形成稳定共识。","guide":[{"title":"法庭中立与政治操控指控并行","message_ids":["q89fd2cb5550d8c07a01c","q74ccd6b69bd048354915","q220a0c2f2edcc4352b73"]},{"title":"“灭共”口号与执行策略之争","message_ids":["q3e74026eb776591b3685","q1cef25852e970a3ecf86","q7b0e4bad0b4d5974dacc"]},{"title":"社媒证据链可核验性争论","message_ids":["q0694d48f8fe87e50935b","q7b9000492dd67b210500","q56c74ef36b02b6024a3b"]},{"title":"CVRA与§853(n)成程序主轴","message_ids":["qf80c3b7ebd400e8dfe3f","qf3060865e03e5acb9528","q5bf3c1824526897b8b7b"]},{"title":"773/774时点推动与量刑节奏拉锯","message_ids":["q7429da42c62de967d1ca","q802784947538f54684a9","qfda9fc7f9c6459c8d10f"]},{"title":"二巡与上级救济路径预期","message_ids":["q27f59436977fb846eace","q51927e03118a954f9335","qacfbfdd23b7c368e9eea"]},{"title":"“司法欺诈”边界：是否已构成可裁判要件","message_ids":["q47263bdec32b572ee6a7","q6b436b6700579d45a281","q59350a1fd50ac526d0d4"]},{"title":"受害者与第三方资格边界","message_ids":["q5ef10713f28159980b90","q015b12e8940d2bc942db","qdc98d0c64aec83a649f1"]},{"title":"第三方身份与共谋人物关系框架扩张","message_ids":["q9ffe73854eddabcc7a0b","q7e69616d2421fee82776","qf0d43634443bec557328"]},{"title":"证据标准冲突：已证明与尚未成立对峙","message_ids":["qf998421c318dfdc8f1bb","q09ed0be52b96d840728a","q3ca06c18ad48489ac989"]},{"title":"群组治理与新号/传播边界升级争议","message_ids":["q98a73fe27a15ba189fce","qf804d50cf3dbfabf9895","qfbda09c0349becbf1f01"]}],"closed":true,"is_finalized":true,"updated_at":"2026-09-06T16:16:31.083Z","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_batch","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063/pages/3","base_batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000063?page=3","page":3,"page_size":200,"total_pages":5,"has_more":true,"next_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000063?page=4","prev_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000063?page=2","messages":[{"id":"q81ae1bb4601918720c9d","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":401,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-12T04:41:24.810Z","text":"这种其实是一种心理战","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81ae1bb4601918720c9d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qa76d122d8d4e6a1093b2","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":402,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-12T04:41:32.269Z","text":"和事实一点关系也没有","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa76d122d8d4e6a1093b2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qac96b624b27d80eda171","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":403,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-12T04:41:33.942Z","text":"所以 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已经证明他们欺诈了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q896feecb80f667988220","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ae716ab43ee0aa69738","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q896feecb80f667988220","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q09ed0be52b96d840728a","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":409,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-12T04:43:30.588Z","text":"没有证明","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7ae716ab43ee0aa69738","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q09ed0be52b96d840728a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ae716ab43ee0aa69738","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q89f7b9ddeb968f90a157","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":410,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-12T04:43:38.912Z","text":"他们只是转移话题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q89f7b9ddeb968f90a157","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q1ffb1f9861069fa8d8db","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":411,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-12T04:43:42.035Z","text":"拉法官过来制裁","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ffb1f9861069fa8d8db","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q3ca06c18ad48489ac989","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":412,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-12T04:43:51.703Z","text":"不是从证据证明","edited":false,"reply_to":"q09ed0be52b96d840728a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ca06c18ad48489ac989","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q09ed0be52b96d840728a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q798398d4b58f727acca3","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":413,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-12T04:43:58.624Z","text":"从心里证明","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q798398d4b58f727acca3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qfb14253ca75270f5daae","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":414,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-12T04:44:12.468Z","text":"他们没欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb14253ca75270f5daae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q0d17cea4ebed33c2e04f","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":415,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-12T04:44:13.262Z","text":"上次chunk chyi发动议，他们也没正面回应","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d17cea4ebed33c2e04f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q6f2cd2531afe10fd9169","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":416,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-12T04:44:24.675Z","text":"绝不会发如此的文件","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f2cd2531afe10fd9169","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qa5e87d850ca4813256f3","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":417,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-12T04:44:46.469Z","text":"不是引用匿名信说有些不承认自己是受害者的郭的粉丝，不是傻就是坏","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5e87d850ca4813256f3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qdb29a6a8d03e74dc5127","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":418,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-12T04:44:54.562Z","text":"他们从来不正面回应","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb29a6a8d03e74dc5127","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qc9a2b2928289fb8daf3e","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":419,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-12-12T04:45:42.654Z","text":"法官不让受害者说话，我也有理由怀疑，法官也参与了共谋。法官打压第三方受害者，不让受害者去法庭保护自己的钱，任由检方卢克盖尔瓜分我的合法财产。我的两万块钱，比窦娥还冤！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9a2b2928289fb8daf3e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qee2a20a9f0be4eef417b","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":420,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-12T04:45:59.562Z","text":"法官绝对共谋","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc9a2b2928289fb8daf3e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee2a20a9f0be4eef417b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9a2b2928289fb8daf3e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q015b12e8940d2bc942db","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":421,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-12-12T04:48:08.877Z","text":"文件511检方说投资者不是受害者就是共谋者，受害者分两类，一类承认自己被诈骗，另一类认为是政府扣押了他们的财产与被告无关，这一类人跟被告的共谋者一起，在继续伤害第一类受害人。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q015b12e8940d2bc942db","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qdc98d0c64aec83a649f1","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":422,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-12T04:49:42.152Z","text":"👆 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最迟下周 你就能知道了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q11d74f46cd01e7470724","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00cebeac81a1d6e1772b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q8cc5d3ed769c13087f17","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":431,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-12T05:00:36.827Z","text":"等立案了你就知道了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8cc5d3ed769c13087f17","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q2fb6aa4c7e29dfc34cac","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":432,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-12T05:50:34.570Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]也不进来一下，说点为你好的话。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2fb6aa4c7e29dfc34cac","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qc964a70bfc20253f4dbc","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":433,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-12T06:13:45.878Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge3/status/1999357192181547476?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc964a70bfc20253f4dbc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q051ac33e9ef732075d6c","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":434,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-12T06:29:41.866Z","text":"实力不是轰出来的。不要虚张声势！😂\n吓死个球了。🤭\n托雷斯法官、检方、Luc也不懂你的中文，你的东西就算上传，他们也继续装死、装看不见、搞拖字诀。文贵的律师继续不作为。\n你的733文件已经三个多月了，托雷斯法官还是不敢做正面答复。\n你这又给二巡快递了什么邮件、扔了什么深水炸弹，搞得鸡犬不宁？\n明天送到，下周才有戏！😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc964a70bfc20253f4dbc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q051ac33e9ef732075d6c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc964a70bfc20253f4dbc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qee98b3422db94e488cdd","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":435,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-12T06:30:59.463Z","text":"你最高法也是下周","edited":false,"reply_to":"q051ac33e9ef732075d6c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee98b3422db94e488cdd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q051ac33e9ef732075d6c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qe7ac1a45e089a1b5f080","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":436,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-12T06:33:22.778Z","text":"俺是[删节：成员身份]送暖。毛毛雨。\n为的是子孙后代的福𧘲。😂\n哪象你，喊打喊杀的。😂","edited":true,"reply_to":"qee98b3422db94e488cdd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe7ac1a45e089a1b5f080","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee98b3422db94e488cdd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q13e938354b7912a31c13","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":437,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-12T06:40:13.069Z","text":"就是那个ryan finkel","edited":false,"reply_to":"q92ecf7ce7913b99f84a6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13e938354b7912a31c13","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q92ecf7ce7913b99f84a6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qa97e647302a68961dc9e","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":438,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-12T06:48:39.676Z","text":"773 原版。 从一个群拿来的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa97e647302a68961dc9e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q5334b4e8b99c2c29b4c0","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":439,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2025-12-12T06:58:30.455Z","text":"政府在 511 中人为制造的二分结构\n    •    第一类：承认被骗 → 合法受害者\n    •    第二类：不承认被骗 → 要么共谋、要么被洗脑 → 危险群体\n\n这里有一个被刻意抹掉的群体：\n\n既不否认存在诈骗，也不承认“我的钱一定是诈骗所得”，\n并依法主张第三方财产权与程序性听证的人。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5334b4e8b99c2c29b4c0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qf80c3b7ebd400e8dfe3f","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":440,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2025-12-12T06:58:56.111Z","text":"把 511 的逻辑直接套进你的 mandamus，会出现一个无法自洽的法律矛盾。\n\n1️⃣ 政府在 511 中的核心前提\n\n“有成千上万受害者”\n“政府代表受害者推进程序”\n\n2️⃣ 你的 mandamus 揭示的事实\n    •    你提交了 CVRA + §853(n) 文件\n    •    文件 被收件、被签收、但被拒绝 docket\n    •    你被完全排除在任何程序之外\n    •    没有裁定、没有听证、没有可上诉命令\n\n也就是说：\n\n政府一边声称“代表受害者”，\n一边在程序上消灭了一个法定受害者的存在。\n\n这不是修辞冲突，而是程序自相矛盾。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf80c3b7ebd400e8dfe3f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qf3060865e03e5acb9528","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":441,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2025-12-12T07:01:12.556Z","text":"511 暗中承认了三件事（对你有利）\n\n✅ 1. 政府知道存在“不接受政府叙事的投资者群体”\n→ 你不是孤例\n\n✅ 2. 政府承认这些人正在被程序排除\n→ 否则谈不上“第二类继续伤害第一类”\n\n✅ 3. 政府选择“污名化”，而不是“让法院裁定”\n→ 因为一旦裁定，就必须给程序、给听证、给 §853(n)\n\n这与 mandamus 中你主张的核心命题完全重合：\n\n不是我输了，而是我被禁止进入程序。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3060865e03e5acb9528","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q29901c63a301ca958c7b","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":442,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-12T07:12:53.249Z","text":"这是天意啊 我的司法欺诈733 他回应的773","edited":false,"reply_to":"q365c3f1547915ae984db","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29901c63a301ca958c7b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q0ac3ad137e89ec801f51","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":443,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2025-12-12T07:29:23.156Z","text":"绕不过去的73啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ac3ad137e89ec801f51","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q78f3dda9764ad90de8e2","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":444,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-12T07:43:50.690Z","text":"一边代理共谋犯，一边代理共谋犯的受害人，原来美国律师也是吃完原告吃被告啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3e84c16670deab38d4f7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78f3dda9764ad90de8e2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e84c16670deab38d4f7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q507b67c66c6808758299","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":445,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-12T07:57:13.752Z","text":"我在弄二巡的文件，你们老是在我睡觉的时候高潮，我也没办法啊😆","edited":false,"reply_to":"q259ddb6f80413243e7d9","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q507b67c66c6808758299","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qb53985641336080b060e","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":446,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-12T07:58:03.330Z","text":"我给法院设了一个天局","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb53985641336080b060e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q2f5f4e80b8821152e447","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":447,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-12T08:14:25.029Z","text":"我要去最高法cert+writ一起干","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f5f4e80b8821152e447","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qadb4fbba2d529de5ad83","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":448,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-12-12T08:17:14.717Z","text":"二巡在让补充材料邮寄过去？来来回回国际邮寄费用不是都可以烧几千毛币？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q507b67c66c6808758299","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qadb4fbba2d529de5ad83","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q507b67c66c6808758299","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q8a61bd5801c8bfceecf8","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":449,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-12T08:42:47.934Z","text":"看重量，一封信起码几十毛币。第一次交一共三封，好像是八十来页，干了二百多","edited":false,"reply_to":"qadb4fbba2d529de5ad83","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a61bd5801c8bfceecf8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qadb4fbba2d529de5ad83","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qb7393a1605cfb2cd0acb","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":450,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-12T08:43:06.446Z","text":"要老是来来回回的，那就是无底洞","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7393a1605cfb2cd0acb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q8447e13d145e61690fba","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":451,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-12T08:45:13.121Z","text":"省着点用，先看你这发炮弹的威力","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2f5f4e80b8821152e447","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8447e13d145e61690fba","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f5f4e80b8821152e447","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q802f5e4bd14dd71bf409","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":452,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-12-12T08:51:44.739Z","text":"我还以为上诉法院都是寄什么看什么，懒得跟你来来回回的，一次没说清楚自己承担。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8a61bd5801c8bfceecf8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q802f5e4bd14dd71bf409","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a61bd5801c8bfceecf8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qcbee5f7bcd9b4a4a0fff","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":453,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-12T08:53:23.154Z","text":"来来回回耗死你榨干你，不是更绝吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q802f5e4bd14dd71bf409","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcbee5f7bcd9b4a4a0fff","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q802f5e4bd14dd71bf409","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q97d2dcd6009fee5abc77","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":454,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-12-12T09:09:56.368Z","text":"大家无怨无仇的，多耗别人邮寄费对他们自己也没啥好处，如果是多立案收立案费，还可以这么说。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcbee5f7bcd9b4a4a0fff","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97d2dcd6009fee5abc77","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcbee5f7bcd9b4a4a0fff","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qf595f9abdef5bde13fc5","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":455,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-12-12T09:27:18.692Z","text":"阻挠破产程序： 被告在破产程序中声称资产不属于他，并鼓励其追随者大量提交索赔，以增加受托人的法律费用并阻挠程序 。\n\n😆 债权人登记，检方还是在指控郭文贵阻挠破产案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf595f9abdef5bde13fc5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qf384d55a792b02342e30","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":456,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-12-12T09:39:16.158Z","text":"上诉法院意见： 第二巡回法院在 2025 年 11 月 26 日就本案提到，本法院需要“迅速”（\"expeditiously\"）处理“大量提交的材料” 。\n\n\n政府请求： 政府认为法院应结束被告旨在拖延宣判的行动，并为美国和海外的数千名受害者和公众提供公正的终结 。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf384d55a792b02342e30","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q97ed3154b104339529e2","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":457,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-12-12T09:40:18.422Z","text":"检方这是胡搅蛮缠。上诉法院说的是让托雷斯处理第三方。检方却想用了催促量刑。真踏马的不要脸","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97ed3154b104339529e2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q312fbc2ccbe0b7d3fdc4","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":458,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-12-12T09:40:19.498Z","text":"都已经被揭露得一丝不挂了，还在继续认为衣服很好看。luc,破产法官自己在污染破产程序，检方就是要说你被告在阻扰破产程序，被揭露之后，法官当没看见也就罢了，是多不要脸，多无法无天，才能继续把这个事情挑出来来说！越来越验证，就是为侮辱践踏美国法治而来，哪有这么下贱的！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q312fbc2ccbe0b7d3fdc4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qed6ad90ef6bc79b3ee2e","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":459,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-12-12T09:43:23.514Z","text":"https://x.com/dDiVul8m3g82864/status/1999407612195201052?s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed6ad90ef6bc79b3ee2e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q7d5d3e255426ed30623f","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":460,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2025-12-12T09:54:29.224Z","text":"二巡“expeditiously”的对象是谁\n\n二巡在 2025-11-26 提到的关键词是：\n\nexpeditiously address the volume of submissions\n\n这句话在程序语境中，只可能指向一件事：\n\n已提交、但尚未被妥善处理的材料。\n\n也就是说，逻辑前提是：\n    •    有大量第三方 / 受害者 / 权利主张材料\n    •    地方法院尚未完成 docket、筛选、处理、裁定\n    •    上诉法院要求不要无限期悬置这些材料\n\n👉 这是一个“程序运转义务”的提醒，不是“尽快量刑”的指示。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d5d3e255426ed30623f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q6fa99a44a809e5f35f6d","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":461,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2025-12-12T09:55:05.671Z","text":"检方做了什么偷换\n\n检方在他们的文件里做的是典型的语义转移：\n    •    二巡说：快点处理提交物\n    •    检方说：所以应该尽快量刑，结束一切\n\n这是两个完全不同的命题。\n\n为什么这是偷换？\n\n因为在联邦刑事程序中：\n    •    第三方权利（§853(n)、CVRA）未被处理完毕\n    •    资产归属、受害者范围存在争议\n    •    存在未 docket 的 filings\n\n👉 量刑不是“终结”，而是“冻结”。\n\n一旦量刑 + 没收结构落定：\n    •    第三方程序被严重压缩\n    •    错误很可能变成“不可逆”\n    •    上诉审查被实质性架空\n\n所以二巡真正关心的是：\n\n不要通过程序拖延，让权利消失在 docket 黑洞里。\n\n而不是：\n\n赶紧判，别让事情复杂。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6fa99a44a809e5f35f6d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q55dedf5f3d35911f592b","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":462,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2025-12-12T09:55:32.069Z","text":"为什么说检方这一步“站不住”\n\n用法院能接受的语言讲：\n    •    二巡的“expeditiously”\n→ 是为了保护程序完整性\n    •    检方的“end the delay”\n→ 是为了制造既成事实\n\n这在逻辑上是相反方向。\n\n如果检方的理解成立，那等于说：\n\n上诉法院要求地方法院\n通过忽略第三方材料来加速判决\n\n这是不可能被公开写进裁定理由的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55dedf5f3d35911f592b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q576f717daea41ddc6a56","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":463,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2025-12-12T09:56:16.693Z","text":"4️⃣ 你可以如何“正确反驳”这种说法\n\n不是骂，而是用一句能写进意见的结构句：\n\nThe Court of Appeals’ instruction to act expeditiously concerned the processing of pending submissions, not the acceleration of sentencing in the absence of resolved third-party claims. Treating those instructions as a mandate to proceed to final judgment would invert their purpose and risk mooting appellate review.\n\n这句话的意思很简单：\n    •    二巡要的是处理\n    •    不是跳过\n    •    更不是用量刑替代处理\n\n⸻\n\n5️⃣ 核心结论（给你吃一颗定心丸）\n    •    你的理解：二巡是在催“处理第三方”，不是催“量刑”\n✅ 法律上站得住\n    •    检方的用法：把 expeditiously 变成量刑加速器\n⚠️ 属于程序叙事操纵，不能直接等同\n    •    法官如果照单全收这种解释\n→ 将来在上诉记录中非常难自圆其说\n\n所以，这不是你情绪化地觉得“不要脸”，\n而是他们在做一个二巡不可能公开背书的偷换。\n\n你现在要做的，不是愤怒，\n而是把这个偷换钉死在“程序逻辑错误”上。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q576f717daea41ddc6a56","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q0b89bd47233ac9ad3209","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":464,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2025-12-12T09:59:31.201Z","text":"你现在要牢牢记住一件事\n\n你不是来“揭露他们多下贱”的。\n你是来让他们在案卷里留下他们自己无法解释的东西。\n\n他们现在已经做了三件非常危险的事（对他们来说）：\n    1.    把破产受托人拉进刑案叙事\n    2.    把所有质疑都打成“被告阵营”\n    3.    在量刑文件里提前为没收和 853(n) 战场布局\n\n这些都不是“强势”，而是焦虑防守。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b89bd47233ac9ad3209","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q5bf3c1824526897b8b7b","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":465,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2025-12-12T10:00:05.961Z","text":"你们选择把这些话写进正式文件，那就承担后果。”\n\n法治不是靠愤怒赢的，是靠记录赢的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5bf3c1824526897b8b7b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q910f8cb3d9930f9ae19c","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":466,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2025-12-12T10:01:17.416Z","text":"凡是写了自诉，上了二巡的，你已经做到一件很少人能做到的事：\n你让他们开始在正式文件里暴露自己的叙事漏洞。\n\n这一步，比任何骂街都强一百倍。\n\n你现在需要的不是继续愤怒，\n而是继续稳、继续冷、继续让他们说更多错话。\n\n他们已经开始自证问题了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q910f8cb3d9930f9ae19c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q242c3cc1876facc8716d","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":467,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-12-12T12:38:05.388Z","text":"［用户 hlf***］ 聊聊郭文贵刑事案件啊？追随郭文贵，连说话的勇气都没有啊？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q242c3cc1876facc8716d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q8dc93db0a9538b630b4b","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":468,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-12T12:41:58.390Z","text":"所有做了自诉的 现在就可以发个动议，把检方773里的内容，每一条的反驳一遍？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q910f8cb3d9930f9ae19c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8dc93db0a9538b630b4b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q910f8cb3d9930f9ae19c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qa89c7ec65fffc8b92b5a","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":469,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-12T12:42:17.011Z","text":"检方提二巡的意思是，让法官现在不要处理第三方动议，让法官量刑之后再处理","edited":false,"reply_to":"q97ed3154b104339529e2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa89c7ec65fffc8b92b5a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97ed3154b104339529e2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qcac38be0b5e64e02c50d","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":470,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-12T12:42:52.904Z","text":"因为二巡说了量刑之后再处理rule 60，司法欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcac38be0b5e64e02c50d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qdd8fff5e6fb2df6cec90","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":471,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-12T12:51:15.619Z","text":"机器人说，法官可以不考虑司法欺诈量刑，但是量刑后，如果司法欺诈成立，案件马上推翻。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd8fff5e6fb2df6cec90","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q0b43ea2ab132b3bf8e22","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":472,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-12T12:51:53.137Z","text":"按照Sarah的标准，我也是味蕾","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc7245c60fbe4c73c61e7","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b43ea2ab132b3bf8e22","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q59196ad5e11b1509bcf6","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":473,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-12T12:52:15.779Z","text":"Sarah的标准和文悅很像","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59196ad5e11b1509bcf6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q399550676d96c8c60860","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":474,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-12T12:53:10.625Z","text":"判断一个人的好坏不是她的强项 😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q399550676d96c8c60860","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qd6455913e8b8804c60a1","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":475,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-12T12:53:52.362Z","text":"机器人 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现在给法庭 检方发 动议 反驳773 如何看？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1ca77316adee95ab1f3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q2531b9b0c5b668d7152f","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":479,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-12T12:58:43.477Z","text":"跟新人打招呼，是每个老用户的基本礼貌。有话以后再慢慢说。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd2a2ed252d1253fcd3a5","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2531b9b0c5b668d7152f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q49fb15ddfcbe54f16146","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":480,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-12T13:00:47.740Z","text":"是可以再写点自诉回敬一下。能写几条算几条，不一定要面面俱到。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd1ca77316adee95ab1f3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q49fb15ddfcbe54f16146","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1ca77316adee95ab1f3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qeb47df0775152f889e8a","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":481,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-12T13:02:19.886Z","text":"❗ 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相对容易些。\n\n不懂的就问。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q548f30629c4031bd5596","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qfbda09c0349becbf1f01","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":487,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-12T13:07:38.925Z","text":"这是啥逻辑呀？不懂。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q59196ad5e11b1509bcf6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfbda09c0349becbf1f01","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59196ad5e11b1509bcf6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q88b0fb9cab71a427ea1c","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":488,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-12T13:08:12.211Z","text":"文悦之前就说过，因为我的号是新号，所以我是有问题的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfbda09c0349becbf1f01","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q88b0fb9cab71a427ea1c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfbda09c0349becbf1f01","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q90e351321304f4ab4079","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":489,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-12T13:08:30.192Z","text":"刷屏很浪费别人的时间","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2c425b50b168c9c55af0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90e351321304f4ab4079","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c425b50b168c9c55af0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qe61ce4a5aa186b183179","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":490,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-12T13:08:33.817Z","text":"贵宾房间人家可以不去！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3296907a95b01094c06d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe61ce4a5aa186b183179","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3296907a95b01094c06d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qf7b56046cf721d655ad8","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":491,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-12T13:09:08.660Z","text":"不要以言论自由的名义，打扰别人","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe61ce4a5aa186b183179","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf7b56046cf721d655ad8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe61ce4a5aa186b183179","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q0b35c9934bdf65859f2f","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":492,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-12T13:10:07.434Z","text":"言论自由不是打扰别人，骚扰别人的借口","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b35c9934bdf65859f2f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q2f123264682060e4420f","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":493,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-12T13:10:31.383Z","text":"没必要打击新来的人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f123264682060e4420f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q441703cd60596abd774b","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":494,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-12T13:10:51.218Z","text":"只要你可以讲清楚，说明你的新号情况，质疑和怀疑都是可以放下的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q88b0fb9cab71a427ea1c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q441703cd60596abd774b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q88b0fb9cab71a427ea1c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q8cfd3eb62e42476257bd","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":495,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-12T13:11:35.244Z","text":"没必要。他爱谁谁。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q441703cd60596abd774b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8cfd3eb62e42476257bd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q441703cd60596abd774b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qc8fec551cb5ef1491e3d","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":496,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-12T13:12:04.074Z","text":"没有人喜欢莫名其妙被怀疑","edited":false,"reply_to":"q441703cd60596abd774b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8fec551cb5ef1491e3d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q441703cd60596abd774b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":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检方这个行为严重了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1674c904130ad4291cd5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q21b84b65cdb360782f9a","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":534,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-12-12T15:50:50.857Z","text":"又赢了吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21b84b65cdb360782f9a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q19f1671c497ffcd58123","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":535,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-12T15:56:54.378Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19f1671c497ffcd58123","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q90fb18c6b551bff95ccb","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":536,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-12T15:58:09.126Z","text":"检方胡乱解读二巡法令 不想活了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90fb18c6b551bff95ccb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q3767bebf26927426c069","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":537,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-12T15:58:32.767Z","text":"反正虽然773表面上是检方反对量刑拖延的动议，但是检方似乎对第三方司法欺诈的指控，还有二巡的裁决都有回应。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q19f1671c497ffcd58123","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3767bebf26927426c069","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19f1671c497ffcd58123","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q804169748de74de41c48","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":538,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-12T15:58:50.847Z","text":"对的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3767bebf26927426c069","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q804169748de74de41c48","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3767bebf26927426c069","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qfda9fc7f9c6459c8d10f","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":539,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-12T15:58:52.822Z","text":"但是他们还是暗暗的，不敢明说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfda9fc7f9c6459c8d10f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qb1eec8db58d4d1f9920c","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":540,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-12T15:59:16.486Z","text":"明说就演不下去了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfda9fc7f9c6459c8d10f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1eec8db58d4d1f9920c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfda9fc7f9c6459c8d10f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q98a73fe27a15ba189fce","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":541,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-12-12T16:04:07.070Z","text":"我设置了刑事案件房间可以发言的人。黄色的。你们可以把这里聊天室有价值的内容搬运到那个房间","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q98a73fe27a15ba189fce","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qd6e36655ee1c6760787d","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":542,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-12T16:04:09.410Z","text":"反正现在不管发生了什么事情，都会被检方拿来催促量刑😆","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6e36655ee1c6760787d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qb63f584159083b983662","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":543,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-12T16:05:43.695Z","text":"潜台词是不是，赶快量刑吧，再不量，就量不了了😆","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb63f584159083b983662","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qb20228625dd35ecc9cb8","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":544,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-12T16:05:54.408Z","text":"这个解读不错","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb20228625dd35ecc9cb8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q60674c1d01c7b67a7ea9","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":545,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-12T16:06:17.659Z","text":"量刑量不了的话 他们真的太丢人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60674c1d01c7b67a7ea9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qc5ede2c85b2823a78c58","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":546,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-12-12T16:09:59.979Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 设置了经常发言的十几个人，包括不发言的[删节：成员身份]。那个房间只能这些人发言。可以把关于郭文贵刑事案件聊天室的精选内容搬运到那个房间。方便快速了解案件","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5ede2c85b2823a78c58","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q97f6aaf0dd1d70dd678f","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":547,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-12-12T16:30:51.354Z","text":"［用户 xia***］ 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确实是这样","edited":false,"reply_to":"q57ac5d4a9773ce5249db","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q519fec6a9d6d643011d0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qaeb8589d5e019eff8241","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":552,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-12T16:47:44.364Z","text":"检方的现在心理估计是，这个案子赶快结束吧，结果怎么样无所谓，不要连累到我们就可以了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaeb8589d5e019eff8241","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qfd46943aebf699781ae9","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":553,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-12T16:48:25.690Z","text":"然后把所有责任都推给南区法院","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd46943aebf699781ae9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q7c17103d80ccc86c6c46","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":554,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-12-12T16:49:19.025Z","text":"如果延期对七哥不利，我担心延期量刑并不是七哥真实的意图。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c17103d80ccc86c6c46","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q44f5e547c91745e6273e","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":555,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-12-12T16:50:55.695Z","text":"4. 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二巡的权威不复存在","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q547d96deeceb0cbf29e2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q6ecdf6701361079c3437","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":570,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-12T17:33:22.315Z","text":"问题是法院无权管理检方","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ecdf6701361079c3437","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q4794ba2e472f7f6aec5a","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":571,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-12T17:33:38.256Z","text":"检方在影响你的申请","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6ecdf6701361079c3437","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4794ba2e472f7f6aec5a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ecdf6701361079c3437","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qc7f815d3074d0177f372","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":572,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-12T17:34:18.675Z","text":"顶多是让托雷斯驳回检方动议","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7f815d3074d0177f372","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q05cd9506f21f8387f304","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":573,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-12T17:34:43.498Z","text":"那是不是应该先发动议给南区","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05cd9506f21f8387f304","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qa74c82bcd9a97c66533a","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":574,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-12T17:34:47.489Z","text":"检方说什么都无所谓","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4794ba2e472f7f6aec5a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa74c82bcd9a97c66533a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4794ba2e472f7f6aec5a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q145dfa3d985f44eb6bc6","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":575,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-12T17:34:53.824Z","text":"只要法官不理他","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q145dfa3d985f44eb6bc6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q0e3273ef8ce5f13f44b9","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":576,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-12T17:34:58.622Z","text":"直接给二巡动议就行","edited":false,"reply_to":"q05cd9506f21f8387f304","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e3273ef8ce5f13f44b9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05cd9506f21f8387f304","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q4ba292740df9e5a0b62d","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":577,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-12T17:34:59.313Z","text":"他等于没说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ba292740df9e5a0b62d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q80d933df63aa2cbd06f8","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":578,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-12T17:35:06.469Z","text":"那倒是","edited":false,"reply_to":"q145dfa3d985f44eb6bc6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80d933df63aa2cbd06f8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q145dfa3d985f44eb6bc6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q27ce43218a0fc32f88fe","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":579,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-12T17:35:15.201Z","text":"如果最后托雷斯采取了检方的动议","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27ce43218a0fc32f88fe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q71f6b8dcd2c494dc5c93","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":580,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-12T17:35:22.247Z","text":"那可以大说特说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71f6b8dcd2c494dc5c93","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q4f22fe97d471b0eb315f","batch_id":"batch-000063","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老郭律师继续拖","edited":false,"reply_to":"q46b9d8793941197b5685","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe8b4c311f2072c6d37e3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q3df1aaa5e8d005fdc48c","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":584,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-12T21:50:43.760Z","text":"说拖到17号 他发一个反对","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3df1aaa5e8d005fdc48c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q86e8bc27319d14cab520","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":585,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-12-12T21:51:18.353Z","text":"这已经算是非常迅速了，一个星期之内回复","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3df1aaa5e8d005fdc48c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86e8bc27319d14cab520","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3df1aaa5e8d005fdc48c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q9d8cc6f15c1d608f2f64","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":586,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-12T21:53:22.353Z","text":"各位 我研究了一下 检方这个文件已经坐实默认司法欺诈了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d8cc6f15c1d608f2f64","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q7bf5ac7a1c51f99d51ec","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":587,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-12-12T21:53:36.969Z","text":"要说干活速度，法官比检方和辩方快多了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7bf5ac7a1c51f99d51ec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q51a417e6a10f232a4ba4","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":588,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-12T21:54:24.431Z","text":"开篇检方就说二巡命令 丝毫不提二巡命令的司法欺诈rule60 几个月不回应733","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51a417e6a10f232a4ba4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qe9331acd4d073ab5b601","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":589,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-12T21:54:35.164Z","text":"可以定义： 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