{"id":"batch-000063","number":63,"revision":1,"date_start":"2025-12-10T01:36:06.215Z","date_end":"2025-12-16T02:39:45.805Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 063 (Dec 10, 2025 – Dec 16, 2025), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Discussion centered on competing procedural rights and narrative control, focusing on court filings such as 733 and 774/773 alongside CVRA and §853(n) docketing paths. Participants debated whether prosecution and judicial actions reflected political bias or constituted fraud upon the court. Disagreements emerged over verifying social media evidence links, defining victim versus co-conspirator standing, and choosing between appellate relief under Rule 60(d)(3) or broader public mobilization without reaching consensus.","guide_en":[{"title":"Parallel Allegations of Judicial Neutrality and Political Manipulation","description":"Participants debate judicial impartiality and allege that the court displayed bias in favor of the prosecution.","message_ids":["q89fd2cb5550d8c07a01c","q74ccd6b69bd048354915","q220a0c2f2edcc4352b73"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q89fd2cb5550d8c07a01c","summary_en":"beg*** contends that third-party pro se filers boldly challenge the presiding judge regarding alleged stonewalling and suppression in ways formal attorneys would avoid."},{"message_id":"q74ccd6b69bd048354915","summary_en":"beg*** argues that Judge Torres is frustrated by the persistence and honesty of pro se filers."},{"message_id":"q220a0c2f2edcc4352b73","summary_en":"beg*** recalls defense counsel receiving tens of thousands of pages of late evidence and contends that the judge showed partiality by failing to exclude those prosecution materials."}]},{"title":"Dispute Over Anti-CCP Slogans and Practical Strategy","description":"Participants dispute the practical effectiveness of repeating anti-CCP slogans versus delivering tangible contributions.","message_ids":["q3e74026eb776591b3685","q1cef25852e970a3ecf86","q7b0e4bad0b4d5974dacc"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q3e74026eb776591b3685","summary_en":"xin*** argues that Trump's strategic posture directly pressures the Chinese Communist Party and questions what actual results the NFSC leadership delivered."},{"message_id":"q1cef25852e970a3ecf86","summary_en":"him*** asserts that only a specific redacted participant is genuinely dedicated to opposing the CCP."},{"message_id":"q7b0e4bad0b4d5974dacc","summary_en":"xin*** asks what practical contributions have been made by those who continually chant anti-CCP 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直接说 哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3bc02e9f2ff027aadab3","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6256d376073a06a8be54","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qe9d063c9d10d087ad7e3","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":630,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-12T23:10:12.681Z","text":"不要拐弯抹角了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9d063c9d10d087ad7e3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qc293136da70b1d45d3cd","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":631,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-12T23:13:42.378Z","text":"共匪特务打击一个人的时候 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我们很忙 没钱所以必须干别的，郭案文件又太多 ….\n\n郭先生/律师不出一个牌不正常 ….\n\n就像瑞恩说的 郭律师要延期里面说的话里有话","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9a62016cd831a50ed4b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q1c280381376a0dbc7491","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":639,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-13T03:57:39.950Z","text":"这波律师不知道会怎么样 -","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c280381376a0dbc7491","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qd116cc9fb8dc6ac01a0a","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":640,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-13T03:58:39.323Z","text":"第三方/733 及后面的二巡文件 都被证据量出来了， 他们怎么用？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd116cc9fb8dc6ac01a0a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q8238a27b9ec2aadafb05","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":641,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-13T04:04:20.609Z","text":"估计下周那个文件核弹出来后， 各方会有什么反应？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8238a27b9ec2aadafb05","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qb062fc6f46af8afd23df","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":642,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-13T04:06:15.892Z","text":"这是去二巡嘚瑟的吧？😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb062fc6f46af8afd23df","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q6a48b42e00087259628a","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":643,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-13T04:07:41.226Z","text":"如果这样 我猜我 有办法让老郭知道 该状况 -","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a48b42e00087259628a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qf60ea3165bd6748397de","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":644,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-13T04:09:48.757Z","text":"整体因为被诬陷黑白颠倒的案件 非常郁闷，但是 有希望的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf60ea3165bd6748397de","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qb6e01d658e263aed84fd","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":645,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-13T04:30:05.582Z","text":"但是代价太大了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb6e01d658e263aed84fd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q2d8597aeb0b2cb95b119","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":646,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-13T04:30:22.640Z","text":"美国律师事务所就是黑帮","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d8597aeb0b2cb95b119","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qdd5142f840d6a2859570","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":647,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2025-12-13T04:32:38.380Z","text":"结论：是的。作为第三方，你的主动权更大、约束更少、打法更自由。\n\n具体分解：\n 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，你们创造了历史！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6280a5e391cddd85ce8f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qedc70d80ebd674852b96","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":649,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-13T04:35:42.044Z","text":"还要继续走下去， 直到真相/水落石出。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qedc70d80ebd674852b96","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q32ed118be42d8a4828db","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":650,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2025-12-13T04:38:41.436Z","text":"第三方非常重要，所以有些人急了破口大骂，骂自诉的参与者都是[屏蔽词]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32ed118be42d8a4828db","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qe1292375a9cd357cec5c","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":651,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2025-12-13T04:38:59.710Z","text":"第三方的重要性是客观事实，不是立场问题。\n在任何刑事没收、受害者认定、破产交叉的案件中，第三方一旦进入程序，就会产生三件事：\n    •    资产所有权不再只由政府与被告决定；\n    •    法院必须面对独立权利主体；\n    •    检方的叙事不再是“唯一合法版本”。\n这本身就会打破既有控制结构。有人因此焦虑，是正常反应。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1292375a9cd357cec5c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q9f62b6f41784ee55bc2a","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":652,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2025-12-13T04:39:59.915Z","text":"最理性的应对方式只有一种：不进入情绪战场。\n继续做三件事就够了：\n    •    只用文件说话；\n    •    只走程序路径；\n    •    只留下可复核记录。\n\n一句话总结：\n第三方之所以重要，不是因为声音大，而是因为位置对。\n辱骂只会发生在对方发现“这个位置无法被绕开”的时候。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f62b6f41784ee55bc2a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q1710546b47296cee04b0","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":653,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-12-13T05:21:15.498Z","text":"这次七哥律师动议延期量刑，怀疑是在准备核弹上膛？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4d2621807a03f1580653","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1710546b47296cee04b0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q4406ac28e2c0202bb9ec","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":654,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-12-13T05:23:33.244Z","text":"律师很忙是指的忙其他官司，而不是忙七哥案子吧。\n他们打七哥案子没钱，文件又多，所以要忙点其他案子赚钱生活。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc9a62016cd831a50ed4b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4406ac28e2c0202bb9ec","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9a62016cd831a50ed4b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qfc7e00f9e9737dae20e7","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":655,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-12-13T05:25:09.940Z","text":"你这意思是，他们这次给自己的废物[删节：成员身份]行为作出了解释！？","edited":true,"reply_to":"qea4dd52dcfb5d8006ac7","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc7e00f9e9737dae20e7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qd76251a6afcdb090a637","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":656,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-13T05:28:08.503Z","text":"我怀疑 瞎猜 不一定准","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1710546b47296cee04b0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd76251a6afcdb090a637","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1710546b47296cee04b0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qe716478c9e003616f330","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":657,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-13T05:28:21.642Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfc7e00f9e9737dae20e7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe716478c9e003616f330","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc7e00f9e9737dae20e7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qef31f64ac6fb0f97119e","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":658,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-12-13T05:56:54.197Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/1999720059393253873?s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef31f64ac6fb0f97119e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qe343672554dbb94c42e9","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":659,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-13T07:01:52.217Z","text":"我写的东西温柔如细雨、轻飘似雪花，毫无份量哈。😂\n俺就想作为一个平民发出一点点微弱的声音。去美国的最高法院到此一游。That’s all. 🤫","edited":false,"reply_to":"q756f529681b40795f85e","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe343672554dbb94c42e9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qaad7749b043b33b997a7","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":660,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-13T07:15:31.498Z","text":"各位 检方文件773 还有一个重要指标： 这是法庭上有人第一次回应二巡针对第三方强制令的回复 也就是说 当事人第一次公开承认 第三方是法庭上的一个角色！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaad7749b043b33b997a7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qbb182206284576d39bc0","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":661,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-13T07:18:12.827Z","text":"我深度怀疑 老郭律师今天额外说下周要补充的 就是针对检方瞎几把扯二巡的判决！！！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb182206284576d39bc0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q1856179136ccb6447a0d","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":662,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-13T07:18:46.625Z","text":"各位 关于第三方的话瞎子 已经被打开了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1856179136ccb6447a0d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qb7370650905aa99f60c1","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":663,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-13T07:19:11.036Z","text":"接下去 如我所料不错 法庭会以第三方为话题 打的你死我活！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7370650905aa99f60c1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q0b94e8c376a2bbabdef2","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":664,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-13T09:19:38.203Z","text":"但是为什么呢？真的是刚顾上管这边案子？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4d2621807a03f1580653","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b94e8c376a2bbabdef2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qf6fe0869ee343e10735c","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":665,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-13T09:24:34.232Z","text":"就是因为之前被我说成是废物 他们忍不了了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0b94e8c376a2bbabdef2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6fe0869ee343e10735c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b94e8c376a2bbabdef2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q7a72380a37c83abc4bfa","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":666,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-13T09:24:55.848Z","text":"激将法","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf6fe0869ee343e10735c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a72380a37c83abc4bfa","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6fe0869ee343e10735c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q27b61a019bf3f5ac7708","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":667,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-13T09:25:03.671Z","text":"如果他们现在不积极点 如果真的坐实是废物 以后谁还找他们呀 哈哈哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27b61a019bf3f5ac7708","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qbfd554a3d8fc43c55ba4","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":668,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-13T09:25:28.461Z","text":"也不是 他们是废物 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就是 defect 缺陷的形容词，表示你提交的文件存在不完整的地方，需求补齐、纠正，也就是cure 治愈","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0a47fa98b1e930519e3d","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54f8f72d92007fc8c639","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qb28d0ca976072af17022","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":719,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-14T00:15:48.315Z","text":"大家分析一下，如果郭律师复活，他们应该做什么达到撤案目的？\n\n郭律师行动与下周瑞恩的核弹、Sarah的最高法 又如何 ？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb28d0ca976072af17022","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q01fb6d3ad8db1955df14","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":720,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2025-12-14T00:20:29.969Z","text":"郭律师若“复活”，他们唯一能做的，是补上过去一年没做的三类核心动作\n\n郭方律师目前最大的问题不是能力，而是：\n他们没有动手做那些“能真正影响案件结构”的动作。\n\n如果他们复活，必须做以下三件事，否则任何行动都无效：\n\n⸻\n\n1. Rule 33 新审判动议（New Trial Motion）——打程序性错误\n\n最强武器、也是唯一能直接推翻陪审团裁决的联邦工具。\n\n必须集中在三类点：\n    •    Brady 违规（政府隐匿对被告有利证据）\n    •    陪审团误导 / Jury contamination\n    •    政府使用不实资产叙事欺骗陪审团\n\n这是最能导致“撤案 / 重审”的路径。\n\n⸻\n\n2. Rule 29 无罪判决动议（Judgment of Acquittal）——打证据不足\n\n如果能够证明：\n    •    政府所称“诈骗模式”缺乏实际一致性\n    •    大量投资者是自愿、有知情、有风险意识\n    •    财务结构与政府叙述不符\n→ 法院可以直接“撤销判决”。\n\n这是取消罪名最直接的路径。\n\n⸻\n\n3. CIPA / 密件程序问题（Classified Info Procedural Act）\n\n此案里有国家安全因素，若政府处理不当或隐匿涉密材料，属于程序性致命错误。\n\n律师必须要求：\n    •    核实政府是否秘密使用涉密证据影响案件\n    •    检查检方是否遵守 CIPA 义务\n\n任何违反 CIPA 的行为都属于可撤销定罪的重型错误。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01fb6d3ad8db1955df14","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q7613d2c7cfee5d88421d","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":721,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2025-12-14T00:20:57.147Z","text":"二、郭律师要想真正“撤案”，必须触发这三类司法后果\n\n也就是法院必须被迫承认以下其中一个：\n\n⸻\n\nA. “陪审团审到的不是事实” → 直接新审判（Rule 33）\n\n如果律师能证明：\n    •    政府证据错误\n    •    关键信息被隐瞒\n    •    证人证词靠不住\n→ 法官只能重新开审。\n\n⸻\n\nB. “本案根本构不成法律意义上的诈骗” → Rule 29 判无罪\n\n如果检方的资产来源逻辑、资金流动、投资人意愿全部被拆穿：\n→ 法官可以撤销陪审团裁决。\n\n⸻\n\nC. “国家安全因素导致司法程序有缺陷” → 直接撤案或重审\n\n如果 CIPA 或外国情报影响案件程序，被视为结构性错误（structural error），\n→ 法院会重新审理或直接撤掉判决。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7613d2c7cfee5d88421d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q826e31e6b04f4fb846f9","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":722,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2025-12-14T00:21:33.184Z","text":"郭律师与瑞恩核弹、Sarah 最高法的关系（动力链）\n\n三方行动实际上形成“三级压力体系”：","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q826e31e6b04f4fb846f9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qfdcd919d1b9c678dd018","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":723,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-14T00:23:50.987Z","text":"不可能撤案了 如果想推翻案件 律师有且只有一条路","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb28d0ca976072af17022","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfdcd919d1b9c678dd018","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb28d0ca976072af17022","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q75938089dbc30b72ac91","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":724,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-14T00:24:01.707Z","text":"就是提出rule33+ 检察官不当","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q75938089dbc30b72ac91","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qeb7bf2dbe735ce42e56e","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":725,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-14T00:24:18.035Z","text":"而且永远不能起诉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb7bf2dbe735ce42e56e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qa4eda84656137f22a998","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":726,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-14T00:24:49.054Z","text":"现在重审都没有必要了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa4eda84656137f22a998","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qe22574a94b4aea7d4e55","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":727,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-14T00:26:19.782Z","text":"检察官misconduct with prejudice","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe22574a94b4aea7d4e55","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q357f8516e90f7bf6401a","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":728,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-14T00:26:27.155Z","text":"律师干 只能这样","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe22574a94b4aea7d4e55","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q357f8516e90f7bf6401a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe22574a94b4aea7d4e55","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q6da39465896148dfa314","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":729,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-14T00:41:31.965Z","text":"最高法不容易\n\n如果第三方的文件最高法不与立案？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6da39465896148dfa314","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qb7bada67ac615d937541","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":730,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-14T00:41:55.176Z","text":"你可以去研究一下最高法立案标准","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6da39465896148dfa314","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7bada67ac615d937541","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6da39465896148dfa314","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q20aeb82bfb4a7228cabf","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":731,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2025-12-14T00:42:00.164Z","text":"我也觉得最高法很难吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20aeb82bfb4a7228cabf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q1b9d02b4c6fee0a1efbf","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":732,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-14T00:47:53.673Z","text":"“preponderance of evidence\" unless constitutionally mandated, while generally requiring a concrete injury for standing (Lujan) and applying \"probable cause\" for warrants","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b9d02b4c6fee0a1efbf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qe58ff57a7b9655613b06","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":733,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-14T00:48:04.978Z","text":"最高法立案标准","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe58ff57a7b9655613b06","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qadd63a3f14586bbaef77","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":734,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-14T00:50:09.952Z","text":"1）关乎宪法 2）证据确凿多不胜数， 同时也造成铁一般的伤害","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qadd63a3f14586bbaef77","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q88b982057420bb1b1324","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":735,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-14T00:50:32.362Z","text":"还有全国性事件和法条冲突","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q88b982057420bb1b1324","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qbc9cecd759e92b54a858","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":736,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-14T00:53:13.507Z","text":"检方 南区 是动了法律根基","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc9cecd759e92b54a858","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q5661617d09ce041f0e7d","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":737,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-14T00:53:51.342Z","text":"但是还没量刑， 造成伤害了吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5661617d09ce041f0e7d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qaffa3878ba213ef664c6","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":738,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2025-12-14T00:53:55.099Z","text":"同一核心刑事案件，围绕同一资产/程序/司法结构问题，有多个不同主体能分别触发以上路径。这个判断是对的：极少。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaffa3878ba213ef664c6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q3aaa52e390af33b7c50d","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":739,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2025-12-14T00:55:00.892Z","text":"如果最高法院看到的是：\n    •    被告说：刑事程序有问题\n    •    第三方说：我被排除在司法之外\n    •    另一条线说：资产与司法诚信被污染\n\n那它看到的不是“纷争”，而是：\n\n司法系统是否允许一个案件在不同层级同时失真。\n\n这是最高法院最警觉的信号之一。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3aaa52e390af33b7c50d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q483a84f643c662dce600","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":740,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2025-12-14T00:55:36.686Z","text":"如果同一案件能让三种不同法律身份的人，都各自具备上行最高法院的理论路径，\n那说明问题已经不在个案输赢，\n而在司法结构是否还能自洽。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q483a84f643c662dce600","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q47263bdec32b572ee6a7","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":741,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-14T01:39:58.314Z","text":"第二巡回上诉法院确实表示，Rule 60(d)(3)（司法欺诈 / fraud upon the court）可以在量刑之后提出。\n但不是：它并没有说地方法院可以在量刑前忽视、拒绝立案、或假装看不见具有合理基础（colorable）的司法欺诈指控。\n\n👉 这两者是完全不同的命题。\n\n\n---\n\n第二巡回法院真正想表达的意思\n\n当第二巡回法院说 Rule 60(d)(3) 可以等到量刑之后，它的意思是：\n\n> 量刑的发生，并不会消灭或放弃当事人日后提出“司法欺诈”救济的权利。\n\n\n\n换句话说：\n\n量刑 不会导致司法欺诈主张被视为放弃；\n\n量刑 不会构成时间障碍（time bar）；\n\nRule 60(d)(3) 并不会因为量刑而失效。\n\n\n这是一种权利保全（preservation）原则，\n而不是一种**“现在可以不管”的授权**。\n\n\n---\n\n第二巡回法院没有说过的话\n\n第二巡回法院从未裁定：\n\n司法欺诈指控在量刑前不具备相关性；\n\n地方法院可以拒绝将此类文件入案（docket）；\n\n法院可以假装这些指控不存在；\n\n所有司法欺诈主张都可以不经任何审查自动延期。\n\n\n如果第二巡回法院真的有这个意思，它会明确写成类似：\n\n> “地方法院在量刑前无需确认或处理司法欺诈指控。”\n\n\n\n但它并没有这样说。\n\n\n---\n\n为什么这个区分至关重要（核心逻辑）\n\n1️⃣ “救济时间” ≠ “确认时间”\n\n第二巡回法院讨论的是：\n\n最终救济（relief）可以在什么时候裁定，\n\n\n而不是：\n\n法院是否必须确认该指控的存在。\n\n\n法院经常做的事情是：\n\n确认问题存在；\n\n记录在案；\n\n决定推迟实质裁定。\n\n\n法院不会合法地：\n\n拒绝立案；\n\n拒绝承认；\n\n或否认问题的存在。\n\n\n\n---\n\n2️⃣ 司法欺诈是结构性（structural）问题\n\n“Fraud upon the court（司法欺诈）”：\n\n指向的是司法程序本身被污染或操纵；\n\n涉及正当程序（due process）和司法制度完整性；\n\n不能被当作普通、可自由裁量的动议处理。\n\n\n即便最终裁定被延期，\n法院也必须确保案卷记录是完整和真实的。\n\n\n---\n\n3️⃣ 第二巡回法院的沉默 ≠ 允许压制\n\n第二巡回法院讨论的是：\n\n未来救济是否仍然可用，\n\n\n而不是：\n\n现在是否可以通过不立案、不回应来“压住”问题。\n\n\n任何上诉法院都不可能：\n\n授权拒绝立案；\n\n授权对司法欺诈指控视而不见；\n\n授权策略性忽视。\n\n那将引发严重的宪法问题。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47263bdec32b572ee6a7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q6b436b6700579d45a281","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":742,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-14T01:44:23.332Z","text":"👆 机器人说，无论你是用853n还是CVRA提出司法欺诈，都是一样的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b436b6700579d45a281","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q271fbf21c931dc16b629","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":743,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-12-14T03:50:05.951Z","text":"那就好。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6b436b6700579d45a281","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q271fbf21c931dc16b629","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b436b6700579d45a281","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q59350a1fd50ac526d0d4","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":744,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-12-14T03:54:46.678Z","text":"司法欺诈，无论量刑前后，应该都可以提出。\n何况已经在量刑前都提交上去了，这甚至是能直接影响量刑和整个司法程序的，没有任何拖延的必须性，反而是必须要上传自诉，要正面回复。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q47263bdec32b572ee6a7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59350a1fd50ac526d0d4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47263bdec32b572ee6a7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qa68826913c0f282317f8","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":745,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-14T04:22:04.098Z","text":"你说 就检方这样瞎扯 老郭律师不打 是不是不太可能了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q47263bdec32b572ee6a7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa68826913c0f282317f8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47263bdec32b572ee6a7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qbb304700873a24926448","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":746,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-14T04:27:04.540Z","text":"严重同意。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa68826913c0f282317f8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb304700873a24926448","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa68826913c0f282317f8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qa12fe83b08457441eaf2","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":747,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-12-14T04:28:15.067Z","text":"如果是表演律师，可能依然装死","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa12fe83b08457441eaf2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q55ec1779e8c2ac91a639","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":748,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-14T04:28:22.392Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa12fe83b08457441eaf2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55ec1779e8c2ac91a639","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa12fe83b08457441eaf2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qcf8f5a37ffecfad435e0","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":749,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-14T04:29:20.632Z","text":"事到如今，他们不可能再装死了。那就比猪还蠢。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf8f5a37ffecfad435e0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qa8bbca49a272b21bfa92","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":750,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-14T04:35:19.552Z","text":"郭的律师也能收到很多信息的，看到不少被打压、没有上传的自诉的。我每次发电子邮件自诉，都会 CC 给他们一份的。\n作为律师，连起码的逻辑思维能力、法律常识还是会有的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8bbca49a272b21bfa92","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q2efc2504b398b7bb98b8","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":751,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-14T04:51:27.087Z","text":"我给高法的17页纸的正文也在同一天邮寄给了郭的三个律师。他们应该能够感受到来自于我这样的第三方的力量的。在周三他们的回应发出前应该已经收到我写的东西。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2efc2504b398b7bb98b8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qa9881b1847c6a8531c8f","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":752,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-14T05:37:49.100Z","text":"我写的东西，除了个人信息，没有什么秘密。你可以稍微再等几天吗？如果立案了的话，网上都可以看到。如果不立案，发出来也没多大意义。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8ad6a0bd38f2b900b370","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa9881b1847c6a8531c8f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qa671af5728e9796e6a06","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":753,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-14T06:09:32.789Z","text":"最高法立案 只要一只脚踏进去 随便什么内容 都是指数级的核弹","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa9881b1847c6a8531c8f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa671af5728e9796e6a06","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa9881b1847c6a8531c8f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qeb60e9815f5174839ac6","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":754,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-14T06:48:13.802Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge3/status/2000095114543440214?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb60e9815f5174839ac6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q564efd59167e48a0e072","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":755,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-12-14T07:54:18.450Z","text":"比如这个，把托特链接粘贴复制过去就可以下载","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q564efd59167e48a0e072","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qe08efa1894078bcfff67","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":756,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-14T07:59:59.789Z","text":"在线听呗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc9cc542125b197ca51a1","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe08efa1894078bcfff67","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q3324de3c9a1f945de42d","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":757,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-14T08:08:08.303Z","text":"在线听怕以后找不到。\n你的号常常被封。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe08efa1894078bcfff67","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3324de3c9a1f945de42d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe08efa1894078bcfff67","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q522057ac98b242fa855a","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":758,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-14T08:08:30.493Z","text":"好像这个号一直坚挺😄","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q522057ac98b242fa855a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qede2c3c51f374732cda8","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":759,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-14T08:08:58.925Z","text":"现在他们开始怕你了。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qede2c3c51f374732cda8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q121b3503f22f4c38411a","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":760,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-14T08:09:15.303Z","text":"可能和我法庭身份有关？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q121b3503f22f4c38411a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qb1575af31329c4483a13","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":761,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-14T08:10:02.167Z","text":"是的。“自诉陷阱”太可怕了。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1575af31329c4483a13","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q7567c5d6e0fb5cf9c408","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":762,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-14T08:12:54.100Z","text":"不好用。一开就是广告。实事却办不成","edited":false,"reply_to":"q69339f664c60077053dc","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7567c5d6e0fb5cf9c408","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q9e0f77777c0704067e22","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":763,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-12-14T08:19:11.264Z","text":"广告，正常，你只需要按照提示，把链接粘贴上去，再看一下广告就搞定","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e0f77777c0704067e22","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q28a4ec3f6befb2a4d22e","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":764,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-12-14T08:31:42.904Z","text":"其实不需要看全，看一下cert petition关于Rule 10符合性的论述就知道斤两了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q28a4ec3f6befb2a4d22e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q1dda42b5f92892049514","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":765,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-12-14T08:32:20.794Z","text":"［用户 pz0***］ ，你，我尊重你。至少你一直按照法律，普通常识分析解读","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1dda42b5f92892049514","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q17be9b902f6798019278","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":766,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-14T08:32:26.910Z","text":"不只是cert writ也算噢","edited":false,"reply_to":"q28a4ec3f6befb2a4d22e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17be9b902f6798019278","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q28a4ec3f6befb2a4d22e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q6bf15f583665717503bf","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":767,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-14T08:32:52.532Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 是一股清流","edited":true,"reply_to":"q1dda42b5f92892049514","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6bf15f583665717503bf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1dda42b5f92892049514","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q7cb5b2ddf665fa0e87ee","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":768,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-14T08:40:14.336Z","text":"老郭肯定会归隐山林","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7cb5b2ddf665fa0e87ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q1a4b0333b14e5049befb","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":769,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-14T08:40:26.191Z","text":"司法战之后 老郭的形式肯定会变化","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a4b0333b14e5049befb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q332a134d800ca26e93fc","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":770,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-12-14T08:42:20.818Z","text":"老郭，要是真做到对线承诺，不只是前面前无古人，也会做到后无来者","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1a4b0333b14e5049befb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q332a134d800ca26e93fc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a4b0333b14e5049befb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q285794634e9854ea54b0","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":771,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-14T08:46:42.662Z","text":"他之后肯定不是这个形式","edited":false,"reply_to":"q332a134d800ca26e93fc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q285794634e9854ea54b0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q332a134d800ca26e93fc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q8cf0e1433b39983c1fd1","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":772,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-14T08:50:01.813Z","text":"我不想他消失在公众的视野里。\n怎么办呀？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7cb5b2ddf665fa0e87ee","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8cf0e1433b39983c1fd1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7cb5b2ddf665fa0e87ee","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"qe191d9ca7310a62a80f7","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":773,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-14T08:51:29.143Z","text":"王者归来之后人就不见了，那真不没什么意思了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe191d9ca7310a62a80f7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q7e19545fcadf70ed90d6","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":774,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-14T08:51:53.229Z","text":"法律动议的人肯定能单独会见他😄","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e19545fcadf70ed90d6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q65d9f4028f8ea15c35d6","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":775,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-14T08:52:21.399Z","text":"起码要把这两三年的事情讲清楚吧。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65d9f4028f8ea15c35d6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q03f41c6d88f0b88da19d","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":776,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-14T08:52:40.912Z","text":"不用讲 直接法庭文件","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q03f41c6d88f0b88da19d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q8c6a1bdbb2dc1e3af5b7","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":777,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-14T08:54:04.560Z","text":"我还想听他直播呢。\n当然不能让联盟那种人在他身边。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c6a1bdbb2dc1e3af5b7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q7b7b0dcacd184f7f667d","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":778,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-14T08:55:32.584Z","text":"我还是想灭共的，我憎恨共匪的独裁统治。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b7b0dcacd184f7f667d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q880971e176dde7539de1","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":779,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-14T08:56:17.224Z","text":"如果不能把老郭弄出来 就说明无法灭共","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7b7b0dcacd184f7f667d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q880971e176dde7539de1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b7b0dcacd184f7f667d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q395ddf9a8df9d6f7a51e","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":780,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2025-12-14T08:57:09.973Z","text":"老郭说过了2025年灭不了共，他就归隐山林了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q395ddf9a8df9d6f7a51e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q1417818117d6c55ef96b","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":781,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-14T08:57:20.468Z","text":"他归隐山林，难道让其他人去灭共？那就不好玩了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1417818117d6c55ef96b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q972c5d6f19df9d7d1e02","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":782,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-14T08:57:32.902Z","text":"换个方式","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1417818117d6c55ef96b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q972c5d6f19df9d7d1e02","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1417818117d6c55ef96b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q8132e74af2175c9fe15b","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":783,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-14T08:57:42.503Z","text":"老郭以前都不是前台人物","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8132e74af2175c9fe15b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q7210cf66bb74aa6cccf5","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":784,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-14T08:57:51.145Z","text":"他只是再次回到幕后而已","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7210cf66bb74aa6cccf5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q0b6a1004498c478fd534","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":785,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-14T08:58:51.610Z","text":"新的沼泽地似的人物？这样也不错。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7210cf66bb74aa6cccf5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b6a1004498c478fd534","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7210cf66bb74aa6cccf5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q0076628b1df6ea333c9d","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":786,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-14T08:59:01.366Z","text":"肯定啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0076628b1df6ea333c9d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q1e5af969aacebe15572c","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":787,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2025-12-14T09:00:30.334Z","text":"就是熬到习150岁，中国被搞的朝鲜化到崩溃🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e5af969aacebe15572c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q3ddba6f6a8758a3fde62","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":788,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-14T09:01:11.120Z","text":"不可能的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1e5af969aacebe15572c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ddba6f6a8758a3fde62","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e5af969aacebe15572c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q61c5ace7ad47a589931f","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":789,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-12-14T09:05:51.589Z","text":"别➗牛逼了，能坚持到将近八十年以后啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1e5af969aacebe15572c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61c5ace7ad47a589931f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e5af969aacebe15572c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"},{"id":"q2468cb8d85c153d58c4d","batch_id":"batch-000063","seq":790,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2025-12-14T09:07:54.502Z","text":"我的意思是老郭后面的策略是不是和共匪比谁熬的过谁","edited":false,"reply_to":"q61c5ace7ad47a589931f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2468cb8d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还是一群屌丝在这聊天","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c47ac1d6b630fc57a36","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000063"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000062","next_batch_id":"batch-000064"}