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ntp***］","edited":true,"reply_to":"qfc81de6e22d3660a74ed","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q88b8721abdcf7cebb56b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc81de6e22d3660a74ed","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q456dfce621bfb8a31b5e","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":636,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-18T08:56:48.012Z","text":"现在我们就是要跟他们耗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q456dfce621bfb8a31b5e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q39ee07733f104a8fb4ee","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":637,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-18T08:56:57.041Z","text":"他们在等我们沉不住气","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39ee07733f104a8fb4ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q4601e1e0ecd517a1dfe5","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":638,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-18T09:07:01.460Z","text":"大环境：\n公布共匪财富\n台湾军售\n公布病毒起源\n\n现在黑暗势力一直想要一场战争，大战，因为各个国家高额的债务，已经撑不下去了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4601e1e0ecd517a1dfe5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q8910ad68829554959365","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":639,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-18T09:08:48.320Z","text":"美国对南美 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Behavior）即可终身任职。要免除他们的职务，必须经过国会**弹劾（Impeachment）**程序（众议院起诉，参议院定罪）。\n​门槛极高： 历史上仅有8位联邦法官被弹劾并免职，理由几乎全是受贿、伪证、性侵等严重刑事犯罪。单纯的“司法抗命”或“判决错误”（即使是故意的），通常被视为司法独立的一部分，不构成弹劾理由。美国体制非常警惕因为法官的判决内容而惩罚法官，以免破坏司法独立。\n​3. 上级法院的“杀手锏”：如何处理抗命？\n​既然不能开除，上诉法院通常有三招来对付“刺头”法官：\n​职务执行令 (Writ of Mandamus)：\n这是一种羞辱性的命令。相当于上诉法院对下级法官说：“你没有裁量权了，必须按我说的做。”这在法律圈被视为对法官专业能力的严厉指责。\n​强制换人 (Reassignment)：\n这是最实际的手段。上诉法院会在判决书中写道：“鉴于本案的历史情况，为了维护司法的公正外观，本案发回重审时必须分配给另一位不同的地区法官（assigned to a different district judge）。” 这直接剥夺了该法官对该案的控制权。\n​公开批评 (Judicial Shaming)：\n上诉法院会在公开发表的判决书中，用严厉的措辞批评下级法官“无视法律”、“滥用裁量权”。这种“写入史册”的批评对视名誉为生命的法官来说是巨大的打击。\n​4. 特别说明：不要混淆“州法官”\n​您可能听说过像 Roy Moore（阿拉巴马州最高法院首席大法官）因为拒绝拆除十诫碑或拒绝执行同性婚姻合法化判决而被免职。\n​注意： 他是州法官，不是联邦法官。州法官通常受州法律约束，有专门的纪律委员会可以罢免他们。而联邦法官（Federal Article III Judges）的“铁饭碗”要硬得多。\n​总结\n​在美国联邦司法体系中，法官公然抗命会有后果，但后果针对的是“案件”而非“人”。\n​对案子： 案子会被拿走，换人审。\n​对人： 法官通常不会丢工作，但会名誉扫地，且在司法圈内被边缘化。\n​","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9e9688ab8216d7ecdacf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3e97705ab37404f88f9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e9688ab8216d7ecdacf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q4e55d2628ae7634bd76d","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":642,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2025-12-18T09:41:51.386Z","text":"莫非托大人就是想通过抵抗强制令来断臂求生？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e55d2628ae7634bd76d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qdef61017a6ee0d732f12","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":643,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-18T09:42:25.955Z","text":"她想抵抗强制令 目的是让我们忍不住 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什么叫沉不住气","edited":false,"reply_to":"q39ee07733f104a8fb4ee","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d4428d9530aad671ea0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39ee07733f104a8fb4ee","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qd6cf0708352f89edece0","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":645,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-12-18T09:46:24.523Z","text":"不是说程序不合法吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6cf0708352f89edece0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qc7667ae7a5248452658f","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":646,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-18T09:46:38.845Z","text":"事情早就超越了你可以理解的范围","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd6cf0708352f89edece0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7667ae7a5248452658f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6cf0708352f89edece0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qfd9df9691f1372bc2ef5","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":647,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-12-18T09:57:33.780Z","text":"量刑是不是延期，预计托雷斯本周出裁定","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd9df9691f1372bc2ef5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q845584335ce7e65a6dae","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":648,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-12-18T10:05:02.320Z","text":"谁是裁判 怎么个赢法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q845584335ce7e65a6dae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qda297fa92baa73d2cd6a","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":649,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-18T10:46:04.036Z","text":"所以，法官有免死金牌，可以肆无忌惮的合法的违法，代价最多就是名声扫地，这对于无耻之徒来说等于0","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd3e97705ab37404f88f9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda297fa92baa73d2cd6a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3e97705ab37404f88f9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q04d60214ee62634f8ff2","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":650,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-18T10:48:04.410Z","text":"如果二巡下令让她上传动议呢？她会怎么办","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdef61017a6ee0d732f12","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q04d60214ee62634f8ff2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdef61017a6ee0d732f12","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qa6cc847870e889928c97","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":651,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-18T10:52:18.922Z","text":"不是钱的问题，动议里说的这些内容，律师肯定不接，他们不想得罪人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q45f5f0ea7f7096cdea85","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6cc847870e889928c97","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q60185a27d3b549da7225","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":652,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-12-18T12:15:04.444Z","text":"779说郭文贵不要脸。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q08bea207ab1b55d05354","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60185a27d3b549da7225","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08bea207ab1b55d05354","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qefdfa7811deea0b960fc","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":653,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-12-18T12:16:42.264Z","text":"［用户 pz0***］ 郭文贵不要脸，好歹还想着钱要留给受害者。检方代表着正义，却任由卢克挥霍受害者资金，并且纵容虚假债权人抢钱","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qefdfa7811deea0b960fc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q339a905a6fd5ae582db5","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":654,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-18T12:23:21.549Z","text":"779 检方回复了\n\n这是美国政府（检方）致 Torres 法官的书面函件，用于反对被告提出的第五次延迟量刑请求，并回应被告 2025 年 12 月 17 日的回函（Dkt. 776）。\n\n\n---\n\n政府的主要观点与理由\n\n一、被告未能具体说明为何还需要更多准备时间\n\n政府指出，被告称需要更多时间审查证据、理解量刑复杂性、进行翻译，并提及 CJA 付款暂缓，但这些理由缺乏具体事实支持。\n\n被告未解释为何现任辩护团队需要比此前团队更多时间来准备量刑；\n\n被告曾申请 Rule 17(c) 传票，按法律标准，这意味着其团队已审查过证据，确认所求材料并非已在手中；\n\n被告并未否认其英语能力，也未说明无法使用翻译软件或译员。\n因此，政府认为不存在再次延期（第 5 次）的正当基础。\n\n\n\n---\n\n二、关于没收（forfeiture）问题，被告立场前后矛盾\n\n政府指出，被告一方面声称自己对具体财产没收“未持立场”，另一方面却在延期申请中表示要挑战没收金钱判决。\n\n这表明被告可能试图在量刑后重新挑战初步没收令；\n\n若量刑继续拖延，将导致最终没收命令长期处于不确定状态。\n政府因此认为，以没收程序仍可推进为由来支持延期并不成立。\n\n\n\n---\n\n三、政府指控被告长期实施“拖延策略”\n\n政府列举被告的行为模式，包括：\n\n在量刑前后更换并终止多支律师团队；\n\n将新任指定律师用于处理破产事务而非刑案量刑准备；\n\n多次申请延期；\n\n试图重新争议 CIPA（涉密信息）裁定。\n政府认为，这些行为表明被告系统性地拖延司法进程，并利用量刑迟延继续误导受害人。\n\n\n\n---\n\n四、被告自愿更换律师，不得以此作为再次延期理由\n\n政府强调：\n\n法院此前已明确告知被告，更换不熟悉案件的律师将使其处于不利地位；\n\n被告明知后果仍主动更换律师；\n\n现任律师团队已受任超过 8 个月，政府不认为这段时间不足以准备量刑。\n因此，被告不能以自身战略选择为由要求再延 3 个月。\n\n\n\n---\n\n五、实际行为显示辩方有能力准备量刑\n\n政府指出，尽管辩方抱怨付款和后勤问题，但其已能：\n\n撰写多份延期申请和回函；\n\n提交 Rule 17(c) 的 ex parte 动议；\n\n计划再次提出 CIPA 相关动议。\n这表明辩方具备充分能力完成量刑准备并进行法庭陈述。政府引用受害者用语，称再次延期“极其不体面”，应予以否决。\n\n\n\n---\n\n结论\n\n政府请求法院：\n\n> 驳回被告的第五次量刑延期请求，以防止进一步损害受害人利益并推进案件的及时解决。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q08bea207ab1b55d05354","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q339a905a6fd5ae582db5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08bea207ab1b55d05354","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qe9cf78f6bfa0cb2fd3cd","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":655,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-12-18T12:40:36.908Z","text":"检方那得性，自己干了哪些坏事，然后说被告干了这些坏事。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9cf78f6bfa0cb2fd3cd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qbca6c9251186ac33fef0","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":656,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-12-18T12:44:57.151Z","text":"感觉就是王岐山培养的某个中共官僚烂仔写的东西，怎么无耻下贱怎么写。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbca6c9251186ac33fef0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qaba98971b28227173b43","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":657,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-12-18T12:45:58.847Z","text":"现在感觉，回复检方，都脏了字节。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaba98971b28227173b43","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qe38e27d105684a718d31","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":658,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-18T12:51:33.082Z","text":"你们不是给你们讨厌的检方送上了刀子了吗？郭先生的律师团队在776号文件就和你们“切割”了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaba98971b28227173b43","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe38e27d105684a718d31","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaba98971b28227173b43","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q075b8ab37dfbb9c54b44","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":659,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-18T12:56:45.308Z","text":"779 号文件是“自诉陷阱”触发后的终极连锁反应。 自诉群体的“棋子论”、“法官抗命论”和场外的激进表现，为检方在 779 号文件中指控被告“长期实施拖延策略”提供了最完美的背景板。即便律师在 776 号文件中表现得再专业，也挡不住检方将这些场外因素打包塞进“被告主导的系统性欺诈”这个大口袋里。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q339a905a6fd5ae582db5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q075b8ab37dfbb9c54b44","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q339a905a6fd5ae582db5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q7c74dddb56d1abab6936","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":660,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-18T13:02:06.511Z","text":"你分析得太好了，法官都自愧不如，法官一定会同意检方，尽快量刑","edited":false,"reply_to":"q075b8ab37dfbb9c54b44","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c74dddb56d1abab6936","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q075b8ab37dfbb9c54b44","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qb7232fc5304c2e10cd53","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":661,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-18T13:04:13.241Z","text":"[屏蔽词]，这是你们给检方递上的刀子","edited":true,"reply_to":"q7c74dddb56d1abab6936","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7232fc5304c2e10cd53","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c74dddb56d1abab6936","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q1acabe20b076b3149dee","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":662,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-18T13:06:19.955Z","text":"虽然 779 号文件主要攻击律师，但其核心驱动力依然是受害者的情绪。\n• 受害者叙事：检方引用受害者的话称延期“极其不体面”（unseemly）。\n• 定性“系统性拖延”：检方将前四次延期、频繁换律师、现在的第五次延期申请，以及场外自诉群体的干扰，串联成了一个**“有预谋的司法欺诈”**。\n• 结果：这让法官感受到巨大的社会压力。如果法官再批准延期，就显得她被被告及其支持者“玩弄于鼓掌之间”。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1acabe20b076b3149dee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q2eb285ceee3f99207b3e","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":663,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-18T13:08:31.773Z","text":"这么说，法官这次一定会驳回辩方，马上量刑，太好了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb7232fc5304c2e10cd53","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2eb285ceee3f99207b3e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7232fc5304c2e10cd53","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q12d1bdebada6ab9a7103","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":664,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-18T13:09:47.415Z","text":"对啊，瑞恩不就是砸锅的吗，你对自诉人有什么误会？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb7232fc5304c2e10cd53","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12d1bdebada6ab9a7103","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7232fc5304c2e10cd53","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qc98ca79f36bbd824724e","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":665,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-12-18T13:12:32.061Z","text":"他要求南区检察官办公室把卢克扣下的资产抢过来，这不需要打官司么，这公司不是进一步消耗可以分配的资产么。其实他真正的意图还是想让你们打起来，他的量刑还能再拖拖。这点小心思卢克和南区法院、检察官办公室都知道，所以没有人理他。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qefdfa7811deea0b960fc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc98ca79f36bbd824724e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qefdfa7811deea0b960fc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q32a1116680ba1cd2e444","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":666,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-18T13:17:53.871Z","text":"这个小烂仔，不是和阿哲这个[屏蔽词]玩真假郭差不多吗？只是换个包装，自己欺骗自己","edited":true,"reply_to":"q12d1bdebada6ab9a7103","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32a1116680ba1cd2e444","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12d1bdebada6ab9a7103","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qce6c673d046e77797b29","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":667,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-18T13:20:27.268Z","text":"你们这群[屏蔽词]说可怜也很可怜。\n就是被螺丝后面的大[屏蔽词]利用的棋子，\n搞笑","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce6c673d046e77797b29","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q339c665b65b7f131ac26","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":668,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-18T13:21:30.049Z","text":"你咋总喜欢把人绑定呢？这群自己代表自己，自诉挺锅砸锅要钱发疯，都可以","edited":false,"reply_to":"qce6c673d046e77797b29","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q339c665b65b7f131ac26","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce6c673d046e77797b29","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qa053b9153e36873c169c","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":669,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-18T13:22:01.460Z","text":"自以为是操局者，其实是被人玩弄的[屏蔽词]都不是","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa053b9153e36873c169c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qf98eba08032e340be335","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":670,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-18T13:22:30.402Z","text":"这种喜欢失控的操局者，还真是少见啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa053b9153e36873c169c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf98eba08032e340be335","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa053b9153e36873c169c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q58f463626e86564a300b","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":671,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-12-18T13:29:21.613Z","text":"卢克抢走的时候，需要打官司啊？尤其从检方手里拿走的时候，打官司啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc98ca79f36bbd824724e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58f463626e86564a300b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc98ca79f36bbd824724e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q58fcfcd6d0f675ade43b","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":672,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-12-18T13:31:34.721Z","text":"卢克在破产法院打过一遍，法院裁定归卢克","edited":false,"reply_to":"q58f463626e86564a300b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url"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虽然我不觉得真有操局者","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2b9dccb22e8d3e805236","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f0da0b37f4f376e541a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qe1ba278a80c74290624d","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":675,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-18T13:38:35.629Z","text":"当然是高人，我都差一点入局","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3f0da0b37f4f376e541a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1ba278a80c74290624d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f0da0b37f4f376e541a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q832a3f266d1fd97bee1f","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":676,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-18T13:39:11.679Z","text":"入局有什么不好？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe1ba278a80c74290624d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q832a3f266d1fd97bee1f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1ba278a80c74290624d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qf3c76269602717bb7985","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":677,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-18T13:40:56.206Z","text":"既然法院都裁定给卢克了，检方和卢克引用法院的裁定不就行了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q58fcfcd6d0f675ade43b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3c76269602717bb7985","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58fcfcd6d0f675ade43b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q4bcd4b51535a83e0c86a","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":678,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-18T13:41:10.728Z","text":"检方何必气急败坏","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4bcd4b51535a83e0c86a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q27bc29ed6cb576d82baa","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":679,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-18T13:41:17.864Z","text":"卢克怎么也不说话了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27bc29ed6cb576d82baa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q1a22823f159a2f6dba1b","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":680,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-12-18T13:42:20.387Z","text":"哪个法院打的官司啊？\n我倒是知道卢克和检方和解给卢克的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q58fcfcd6d0f675ade43b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a22823f159a2f6dba1b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58fcfcd6d0f675ade43b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q2fa65450810dbcb06317","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":681,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-18T13:55:01.158Z","text":"这个是对你们这个群里极端狂热份子的评估：重度心理失调（约10-20%粉丝，极端铁杆）\n•  症状特征：严重妄想和反社会攻击。粉丝完全清醒“好心干坏事”，却视献身为“人生最高意义”（“连累家人是光荣”），群体沉默绝对（谈风险=背叛，集体围攻）。攻击异见极端（持续造谣/中伤/歪曲，甚至线下骚扰），神化病态（群体“神选救世主”，郭“上帝需助”）。伴偏执妄想（自诉“灭世阴谋反转”），现实脱节（忽略郭9罪）。\n•  心理根源：PUA闭环+群体偏执（[post:1]投入越多越难退出 ），认知失调演变为妄想（理性化失败为“神试炼”   ）。邪教研究：成员“自欺”维持忠诚（[post:5]认知失调“困住受害者” ）。墙内铁杆重度常见：审查+孤立，易自残/抑郁。\n•  健康风险：重度偏执/妄想障碍风险，攻击易暴力（报道粉丝骚扰75天），潜在精神崩溃/自杀倾向。\n•  例子：粉丝“清醒献祭”（类似Jonestown：知害却集体自杀 ）","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2fa65450810dbcb06317","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qc5b760af07c1c602f12b","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":682,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2025-12-18T14:19:22.511Z","text":"螺丝哥一个月8000 没休息日","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5b760af07c1c602f12b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qc77866a55804e3f4e2fa","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":683,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-18T14:38:21.185Z","text":"现在唯一消耗资产的是Luc ， 花了60千多万美元，30%他监管的资产。郭消耗谁的资产了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc98ca79f36bbd824724e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc77866a55804e3f4e2fa","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc98ca79f36bbd824724e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q2fbe09b3794f9bb21b13","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":684,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-12-18T15:02:23.657Z","text":"各位可以保留自己的认知，让结果来检验。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2fbe09b3794f9bb21b13","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q58669b12d257fcdf6df9","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":685,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-18T15:05:15.654Z","text":"你的第五点破了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2fbe09b3794f9bb21b13","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58669b12d257fcdf6df9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2fbe09b3794f9bb21b13","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qd5fd40891e5a18e443e1","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":686,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-18T15:05:29.054Z","text":"二巡法庭令 司法欺诈量刑后可以再来一次","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5fd40891e5a18e443e1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q10ca9eb693c7bce6d234","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":687,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-18T15:07:36.069Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 其他的你预测的都非常准确 👍","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10ca9eb693c7bce6d234","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q7b34707ad17417afff9e","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":688,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-18T15:08:16.557Z","text":"1234 都无所谓； 5 法官选择不入卷，被二巡督促入卷，还没结果","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd268776d600e9649be85","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b34707ad17417afff9e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q697aa8daac7538d5216e","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":689,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-18T15:08:17.202Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 但第五点破也不能怪你  你发这个的时候我好像还没发现司法欺诈 所以说 当时根据你当下的判断 全对 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对","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9192910e89d841211ac8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1295ffa76a431c012be4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9192910e89d841211ac8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qb71f31888ee9945642b6","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":698,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-18T15:15:09.752Z","text":"60天都结束了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb71f31888ee9945642b6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qcfd177dc3350eff1723c","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":699,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-18T15:15:34.705Z","text":"这一点 老郭律师居然也搞错了😄","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9192910e89d841211ac8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfd177dc3350eff1723c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9192910e89d841211ac8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qa7ca7f4885cc6911c575","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":700,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-18T15:16:07.055Z","text":"也许[删节：成员身份]脑控了老郭律师","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7ca7f4885cc6911c575","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q9045a52d7245d7f83fb4","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":701,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-18T15:16:21.568Z","text":"这个回你，也回[删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9045a52d7245d7f83fb4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q6149c087351e61417c49","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":702,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-18T15:17:17.632Z","text":"瑞恩本来就是受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9045a52d7245d7f83fb4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6149c087351e61417c49","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9045a52d7245d7f83fb4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q37da670329b5356594eb","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":703,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-18T15:17:43.567Z","text":"美国法律的“无情”客观性\n关注“资金流向”而非“情感忠诚”,\n在联邦诈骗案中，检方关注的核心是：\n• 是否有资金损失？ (Did a loss occur?)\n• 资金是否从受害人流向被告人或其控制的公司？ (Did money flow from the victim to the defendant's control?)\n• 资金流动是否发生在检方指控的“诈骗计划”期间？ (Was the money flow part of the alleged scheme?)\n只要您投资的资金符合这三个客观条件，您在法律程序中就是“受损方”。法庭并不会问您：“您是否仍然支持郭文贵先生？”法庭只会问：“您是否要求拿回这笔在被控诈骗中损失的钱？”\n法律结论： 您的资金客观上失去了，且被卷入检方的指控中。当您行使权利时，您实质上是在确认检方关于资金损失的这一客观指控。\n“诈骗”的法律定义与政治立场无关,\n联邦法律对“诈骗”（Fraud）的定义是：通过虚假陈述或承诺，获取他人的金钱或财产。\n• 主观支持的无效性： 即使您认为郭文贵先生的承诺是真实的，并且您是自愿、怀着支持的目的投资，但如果检方能够证明（在定罪后）：1) 承诺是虚假的（例如，投资项目并未实际存在或用途不符）；2) 您因此失去了金钱。那么，诈骗罪在法律上就成立了。\n• 您的声明是“个人叙事”，而非“法律事实”： 您说“他没有骗我”，这是一个支持性声明。但当您在法律文件上要求赔偿时，您的行动被法官解读为：您要求收回在诈骗计划中被拿走的资金。在法律面前，行动的客观性压倒了言语的主观性。\n量刑指南的“自动加重”机制,\n前文提到，联邦量刑指南是一种非常机械化的表格计算系统。它设计原则就是：犯罪造成的损害越大，刑期越重。\n• 损失 $100万 和损失 $5000万，量刑级别不同。\n• 受害者 10 人 和受害者 100 人，量刑级别不同。\n您的参与，无论带着何种情感，都给这些法律表格添加了一个 “数字”（您的损失金额）和一个 “人头”（受害人数量 +1）。这是一种自动的、数学化的刑期加重机制。\n总结：\n这种“奇葩”的情况正是法律程序的本质：它是一个通过客观证据、程序规则和量化标准来运行的系统。在这个系统中，您对郭文贵先生的政治忠诚和情感支持是无关因素，而您的资金流失和行使赔偿权利是直接影响量刑的法律事实。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6149c087351e61417c49","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37da670329b5356594eb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6149c087351e61417c49","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qa000ff09133e486b97a8","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":704,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-18T15:18:10.306Z","text":"所以，我才说这个设局者非常的高明","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa000ff09133e486b97a8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q1226675332e1007d0869","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":705,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-18T15:18:10.881Z","text":"你应该去老椅子群，告诉他们盖尔现在有6500个受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1226675332e1007d0869","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q6f9f2d0a818086d2ff47","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":706,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-18T15:18:38.728Z","text":"而不是来这个群，打击瑞恩这个受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f9f2d0a818086d2ff47","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q4448fc4bb0cee3dfe3b4","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":707,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-18T15:19:13.498Z","text":"你这么在乎受害者数量，可以去老椅子群，推广“盖尔陷阱”","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4448fc4bb0cee3dfe3b4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q0fc7e65259e1bb55aaba","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":708,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-18T15:19:14.768Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 他觉得我733打了司法欺诈检方还会收录我为受害者 🤣","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0fc7e65259e1bb55aaba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qa3c6a9bff2097d02c7d2","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":709,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-18T15:19:50.458Z","text":"对了，老椅子群现在，怎么看盖尔？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa3c6a9bff2097d02c7d2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q46166f7e349cdde1ae6e","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":710,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-18T15:20:11.549Z","text":"我们这个群言论自由，不在乎是不是受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46166f7e349cdde1ae6e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qe6276c81800973f9bf7e","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":711,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-18T15:20:50.402Z","text":"老椅子群，是不是都很喜欢盖尔啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q19fbcd02f93fe53ed72b","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe6276c81800973f9bf7e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qcaee058715354bec1a9d","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":712,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-18T15:21:32.313Z","text":"你没推广“盖尔陷阱”啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcaee058715354bec1a9d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q45eece1a44054907cec4","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":713,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-18T15:27:54.825Z","text":"事实证明，文悦根本不在乎受害者数量，不然他就应该去老椅子群推广“盖尔陷阱”，不应该来这里","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45eece1a44054907cec4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q08ebd6b6e6c0e3e701c7","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":714,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-18T15:28:55.679Z","text":"当然不在乎了，你们吃屎，我比较重口味，就喜欢看你们吃屎","edited":false,"reply_to":"q45eece1a44054907cec4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08ebd6b6e6c0e3e701c7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45eece1a44054907cec4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qf806f8ca7f6fb7b440c6","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":715,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-18T15:35:11.632Z","text":"法官修理你真是昏招","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf95f12e0764aae1a7560","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf806f8ca7f6fb7b440c6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q7f8e249132b38c084c3d","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":716,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-18T15:45:05.831Z","text":"说你是[屏蔽词]，你要认识一下自已，老郭说了联盟农场多少潜伏的，你不能看透，说你是[屏蔽词]你就要承认","edited":true,"reply_to":"q55df61e326f64a7bc090","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f8e249132b38c084c3d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qba351124c0d6ff2a16cd","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":717,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-18T15:45:21.602Z","text":"你难道不是潜伏的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7f8e249132b38c084c3d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba351124c0d6ff2a16cd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f8e249132b38c084c3d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qc6d720688a0099e9596e","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":718,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-18T15:46:35.604Z","text":"然后呢，跳出那个陷阱，你又进了一个陷阱,跳出来了，又找了个陷阱跳，然后又跳出来了，现在一头又扎进新的陷阱里去了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6d720688a0099e9596e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qdbd6caf0b68d428398ff","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":719,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-18T15:47:34.758Z","text":"你[删节：隐私信息]就好，有看过这么勤奋的老IT人，不去潜在Gettr等开发团队，然后再和你们骂？","edited":true,"reply_to":"qba351124c0d6ff2a16cd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbd6caf0b68d428398ff","reply_url":"https://mub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盖特不是你这种水平可以去的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdbd6caf0b68d428398ff","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70c904d9e1c4359d3538","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbd6caf0b68d428398ff","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q7e1e233fda8fd0b8c40b","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":721,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-18T15:48:16.198Z","text":"盖特里面好几个竞赛大牛","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e1e233fda8fd0b8c40b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q2112c8de81f653c927d4","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":722,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-18T15:48:30.289Z","text":"那个垃圾，我一个人都可以开发全部","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2112c8de81f653c927d4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q515fba546922dd987d5c","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":723,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-18T15:48:35.719Z","text":"我随便问他们一个动态规划 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没有系统函数","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6a74cb9f78abff8a3ec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q9328a84bf2569c33ecf2","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":747,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-18T15:59:46.919Z","text":"这不是面试题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9328a84bf2569c33ecf2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qe5615268b7f03a24555c","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":748,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-18T15:59:52.810Z","text":"项目当中经常遇到","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5615268b7f03a24555c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qe530d89f10a5d3fa60d1","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":749,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-18T16:01:07.259Z","text":"【{ 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这个没有系统函数","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7571ac51d3ee57e087d6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qd48dcb7aae5d35575dd3","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":752,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-18T16:03:47.543Z","text":"我用AI回你，就证明我行了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd48dcb7aae5d35575dd3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qe984eda173fb6c3a032a","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":753,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-18T16:04:08.404Z","text":"检方心急火燎的要判刑 是不是因为邦迪快被换下来了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe984eda173fb6c3a032a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q45712234d81ce1dd3589","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":754,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-18T16:04:24.281Z","text":"再不判没机会了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe984eda173fb6c3a032a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45712234d81ce1dd3589","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe984eda173fb6c3a032a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qa197571faea936a1265a","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":755,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-18T16:04:40.562Z","text":"对","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa197571faea936a1265a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q771fec9aea9579fc19da","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":756,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-18T16:04:50.719Z","text":"大家都知道这是最后一次延期","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q771fec9aea9579fc19da","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q1b12c60ce29d5d23707c","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":757,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-18T16:06:40.038Z","text":"判了刑，虽然会被推翻，但是至少共匪卖美贼又可以一波波操作污蔑郭及爆料革命了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b12c60ce29d5d23707c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q0e4901a573ed656832b8","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":758,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-18T16:07:03.140Z","text":"判刑 检方和托雷斯就可以过关了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1b12c60ce29d5d23707c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e4901a573ed656832b8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b12c60ce29d5d23707c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qd576be563a2d29783265","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":759,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-18T16:07:51.233Z","text":"如果这样， Torres 会硬判的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0e4901a573ed656832b8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd576be563a2d29783265","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e4901a573ed656832b8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q3a765afe510e45d8128f","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":760,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-18T16:09:51.700Z","text":"你们不是很高兴吗？因为你们捅了一点点的刀，和检方一起成功了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd576be563a2d29783265","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a765afe510e45d8128f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd576be563a2d29783265","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q572a300105e94cf845f2","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":761,"speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-12-18T16:10:09.309Z","text":"虽然你们也出了点屁大的力气","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q572a300105e94cf845f2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q7368269b321dddb7ed4e","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":762,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-18T16:12:47.293Z","text":"托雷斯现在就想不作为让二巡介入","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd576be563a2d29783265","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7368269b321dddb7ed4e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd576be563a2d29783265","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q07536bbbbd53f5f4eb94","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":763,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-18T16:34:28.521Z","text":"她作为了， 把一个过了期限的越南第三方曾给入卷了 - 她入卷的前提是诬陷郭害他","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7368269b321dddb7ed4e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07536bbbbd53f5f4eb94","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7368269b321dddb7ed4e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q216dbae7554e7240137a","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":764,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-18T16:34:42.683Z","text":"哈哈哈哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":"q07536bbbbd53f5f4eb94","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q216dbae7554e7240137a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07536bbbbd53f5f4eb94","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q198696d38dbc4483eaf4","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":765,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-18T16:35:39.398Z","text":"瑞恩的二巡补充材料今天能上吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q198696d38dbc4483eaf4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q9f0ad7f7d42111db6d46","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":766,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-18T16:44:42.031Z","text":"不能 要下周了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q198696d38dbc4483eaf4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f0ad7f7d42111db6d46","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q198696d38dbc4483eaf4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q71340298162bc017cb33","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":767,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-12-18T20:44:11.375Z","text":"文件780是谁？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71340298162bc017cb33","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q96aca7d427346723a9c7","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":768,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-18T20:44:18.665Z","text":"什么东西","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q96aca7d427346723a9c7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q6825f6add9c1ed15697c","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":769,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-18T20:45:07.665Z","text":"该谁反驳了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6825f6add9c1ed15697c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q6b28e4f453b0da7a3cec","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":770,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-12-18T20:46:12.820Z","text":"估计可能是老郭律师又反对解放前。现在也没有别人可以说话","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b28e4f453b0da7a3cec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q3f45e95b0c68b8ab8595","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":771,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-18T20:46:43.673Z","text":"律师这是领到工资了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f45e95b0c68b8ab8595","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q5ae9b6f3187ebe2a4a55","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":772,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-12-18T20:47:41.950Z","text":"就是拿到政府拨款，也是赔掉裤衩。一个小时一百多块钱，干一个小时赔一个小时","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3f45e95b0c68b8ab8595","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ae9b6f3187ebe2a4a55","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f45e95b0c68b8ab8595","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q1840593265c21a9d5e04","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":773,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-18T20:48:18.336Z","text":"终于有要脸的人了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1840593265c21a9d5e04","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q79d6e41370980a1bcf2d","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":774,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-18T20:49:20.704Z","text":"不是说是小律所的律师吗？没被蓝金黄？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79d6e41370980a1bcf2d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q50ae91c872da943db45f","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":775,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-18T20:52:52.592Z","text":"他们不想替前面的律师担责","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50ae91c872da943db45f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q0015316a13515733a902","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":776,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-18T20:53:05.806Z","text":"那就干点实事儿出来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0015316a13515733a902","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qed6558438a7ca52c42dc","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":777,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-18T20:54:07.495Z","text":"美国的公检法也特么不是好鸟","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed6558438a7ca52c42dc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q1af6ef399c750603c81a","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":778,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-18T20:55:33.346Z","text":"律师提到他们收到庭审期间未被用做证据的文件，没明说都有啥","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_statu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结论：\n辩方明确表示尚未准备好量刑；若已准备好，作为有经验的律师和法院官员，不会申请延期。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdfaf35431b76d0ce0490","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q4cb944b42eb44c37fcb1","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":783,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-18T21:03:53.215Z","text":"给他们写的信，包括你的733，他们如果认真研究，应该很容易赢。是不是现在是量刑阶段，不能提这些？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa8547dd32aa3ef5983be","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4cb944b42eb44c37fcb1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qead97de9b5b64fa7180c","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":784,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2025-12-18T21:05:58.145Z","text":"辩护律师在量刑阶段能否直接打司法欺诈？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qead97de9b5b64fa7180c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q298f6002ed5a4c0b0d57","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":785,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-18T21:09:25.127Z","text":"会不会是苦肉计，律师和检方一唱一和就是为了一个拖字？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5c4ef80a074b7857075c","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q298f6002ed5a4c0b0d57","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qe4d4d61a41d625983cf8","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":786,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-18T21:10:35.772Z","text":"延期太多次了，这次法官让他们演够了在延期","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe4d4d61a41d625983cf8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q78838c4e1788ab713b77","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":787,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-18T21:16:45.540Z","text":"律师干嘛不直接引用733呢？\n反正我每次必提733，不提就不舒服。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78838c4e1788ab713b77","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qebea14a188293a35dd9e","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":788,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-18T21:18:26.278Z","text":"二巡是有权换法官还是可以直接接管审判？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qebea14a188293a35dd9e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q3b07c7b0d5109c25ed53","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":789,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-18T21:21:09.916Z","text":"那二巡好歹也给搭个桥吧，既然不想管就别把咱们困在这","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0462b6b32bbe7bb65a58","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b07c7b0d5109c25ed53","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q1f7e11b4a68541e101f3","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":790,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-18T21:23:56.369Z","text":"二公公行行好，给个方便吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f7e11b4a68541e101f3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qae7c8d626ace769eaa79","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":791,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-18T21:26:51.635Z","text":"那么我们第三能做的事情就是继续煽风点火，以受害者身份写自诉，自诉不被上传，就向二巡递交纸质的强制令，如果二巡仍拒绝立案，就上最高法。\n二巡的 600 刀申请费也可以申请减免。\n高法的4000美金40份申请书，精装复印费也可以以自诉人身份得到简化。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae7c8d626ace769eaa79","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qc8387dd11e5342e3d14d","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":792,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-18T21:29:46.792Z","text":"律师现在只想自证清白，并没有想给被告伸冤","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8387dd11e5342e3d14d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q032ef3940462b1733929","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":793,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-12-18T21:30:35.847Z","text":"这几个动议里，没有一个字是帮被告说话的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q032ef3940462b1733929","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q482eca042ffc8ee70260","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":794,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-18T21:36:15.481Z","text":"现在申冤也没用，只能打程序不正义。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc8387dd11e5342e3d14d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q482eca042ffc8ee70260","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8387dd11e5342e3d14d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qe985e3bb1db71128c0f6","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":795,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-12-18T21:39:13.375Z","text":"不但不能申冤，我们第三方还必须以第受害者身份介入，成为一个光荣的砸郭的，让联盟里的爱郭贼来攻击我们。\n这种逻辑连我自己都昏了。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe985e3bb1db71128c0f6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q056dac70f8f99e35d53a","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":796,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2025-12-18T21:59:59.839Z","text":"郭律师昨天的要求延期的文件中提到了 与检方沟通，检方只给1个月 好像是有同意1个半月， 郭律师说不行，必须3个月 - 所以 Torres 非常可能延期， 至少1个半月- 是不是？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q056dac70f8f99e35d53a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q17cabc204059270e319e","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":797,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-18T23:35:02.610Z","text":"胡乱讲解二巡命令","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17cabc204059270e319e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"q184ed04b7c38b44c2ef3","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":798,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-18T23:37:15.029Z","text":"检方是故意找死吗😵‍💫","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfc98cbdbcf5b270740b0","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q184ed04b7c38b44c2ef3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qab049775f7feeec6ff13","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":799,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-12-18T23:37:36.612Z","text":"检方好像知道辩方死活不敢提二巡","edited":false,"reply_to":"q184ed04b7c38b44c2ef3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab049775f7feeec6ff13","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q184ed04b7c38b44c2ef3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"},{"id":"qd1c62151577f47f6a13a","batch_id":"batch-000064","seq":800,"speaker":"him***","date":"2025-12-18T23:42:42.071Z","text":"好像不是吧，我觉得他们好像 “活得不耐烦”了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qab049775f7feeec6ff13","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1c62151577f47f6a13a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab049775f7feeec6ff13","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000064"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000063","next_batch_id":"batch-000065"}