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难度比较大","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe60efa70eb19c1eb53c6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q5e1eeaae8bff847ec58b","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":814,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-09T01:35:48.968Z","text":"一定是。除了ladymay等被告家人的资产,其它的钱全是我们投资者的。luc唯一可以争辩的是那6000万可以用拍卖所谓的被告财产（实际是其家族基金的财产）来报销，但这也不能构成先花费我们的钱再报销的合法理由，应该它自己垫付。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf9f91b4ef10add79fbac","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e1eeaae8bff847ec58b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9f91b4ef10add79fbac","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qae717977f3a94cb612fa","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":815,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T01:38:45.138Z","text":"所以luc花的是gclub银行账号里面的钱？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5e1eeaae8bff847ec58b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae717977f3a94cb612fa","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e1eeaae8bff847ec58b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q37d0f24cee14e4fded9e","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":816,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-09T01:38:45.768Z","text":"它未经正当程序扣押，滥用职权长期临时扣押都是非法的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37d0f24cee14e4fded9e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q760815557c1abc91fe0f","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":817,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T01:38:50.559Z","text":"不是被冻结了吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q760815557c1abc91fe0f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q6c9a42deea5088410ea1","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":818,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-09T01:40:03.500Z","text":"就是检方没有执行初步没收令没有冻结啊，还在750里挑衅法院说法院无权决定政府何时以及如何执行初步没收令。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q760815557c1abc91fe0f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c9a42deea5088410ea1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q760815557c1abc91fe0f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q2581d24c0dd8facc7745","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":819,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T01:40:48.003Z","text":"你记不记得律师说luc花几千万是几号文件","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6c9a42deea5088410ea1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2581d24c0dd8facc7745","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c9a42deea5088410ea1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q268409b0f795a23dc17f","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":820,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T01:41:02.536Z","text":"如果这样的话 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page 7 of 8 - 7/31/2025， luc花了6千万， 4千4百万律师费","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q377dd2d1c37da0297a0e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qe7e36756330158e3569f","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":824,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T01:48:47.929Z","text":"谁有检方初步没收令里面的所有冻结的账户清单？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe7e36756330158e3569f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q1db3dde89f4ef32ca30a","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":825,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T01:49:14.072Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]  各位 我现在才发现 724 律师好像给第三方递了刀子","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1db3dde89f4ef32ca30a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q268777341711f6308bd9","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":826,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-09T01:50:49.730Z","text":"这个刀子 已经被上了二巡的853 用了，但是二巡以同样的理由拒绝了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q268777341711f6308bd9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qf3cdc65e46d9cef10e54","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":827,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T01:51:47.415Z","text":"现在上二巡只能是CVra","edited":false,"reply_to":"q268777341711f6308bd9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3cdc65e46d9cef10e54","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q268777341711f6308bd9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qc3f65372816c7655fe82","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":828,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T01:52:01.648Z","text":"二巡的据信已经给你提示了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc3f65372816c7655fe82","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qb99d93091d4f2426d8e4","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":829,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T01:53:00.295Z","text":"想上二巡的，多学习Jason zen","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7aa4c58a9ca463984b3d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb99d93091d4f2426d8e4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7aa4c58a9ca463984b3d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q237258fe717e8a909bd5","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":830,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T01:54:59.727Z","text":"瑞恩其实已经打过了 他说 luc 检方 司法欺诈 你们谁都没资格拿钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q237258fe717e8a909bd5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qea28c28a407ef3c529c0","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":831,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-01-09T01:55:36.875Z","text":"我也是第一份853，然后CVRA，然后混合体一次，然后二巡","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7aa4c58a9ca463984b3d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea28c28a407ef3c529c0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7aa4c58a9ca463984b3d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q82974993ff1592245b9b","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":832,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-09T01:55:47.197Z","text":"jason的南区被上传的文件不是cvra，按照二巡的拒信模板，jason也没有在南区成功上传cvra文件，也可以拒绝了。但没有拒绝，所以应该还有其它因素。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb99d93091d4f2426d8e4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82974993ff1592245b9b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb99d93091d4f2426d8e4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q74831d49b450d286f05e","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":833,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T01:56:26.035Z","text":"Cvra 二巡也可以拒绝，因为sarah就被拒绝了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q82974993ff1592245b9b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74831d49b450d286f05e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82974993ff1592245b9b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qde7382e4f509329bad5e","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":834,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T01:56:36.276Z","text":"那是因为她没有穷尽","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde7382e4f509329bad5e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q6a28e39532f397325158","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":835,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T01:56:45.367Z","text":"就是欺软怕硬","edited":false,"reply_to":"q74831d49b450d286f05e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a28e39532f397325158","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74831d49b450d286f05e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q7cd6a7ebb84c640e7a75","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":836,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T01:57:18.921Z","text":"Jason zen发了多次compel docketing，而且他引用Ryan bai","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7cd6a7ebb84c640e7a75","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qc81c3686baa4fea754eb","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":837,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T01:57:21.283Z","text":"瑞恩的强制令写 瑞恩自己发现司法欺诈 南区不上传 只能申请强制令 二巡马上立案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc81c3686baa4fea754eb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q96cedfbf2a4cf284efeb","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":838,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T01:57:41.507Z","text":"瑞恩好像没写compel","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q96cedfbf2a4cf284efeb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qaa821c6837e0b74a4a4d","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":839,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T01:57:43.599Z","text":"Ryan bai的强制令说他打给南区，南区说因为隐私原因不会上传了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa821c6837e0b74a4a4d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q6ab542453d9899d1cfbc","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":840,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T01:57:54.551Z","text":"那就是南区永远不会上传了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ab542453d9899d1cfbc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q2656ec6ee42d7a209312","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":841,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T01:57:58.628Z","text":"所以穷尽了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2656ec6ee42d7a209312","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q676f4ff80f4e3d889c0f","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":842,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T01:58:06.514Z","text":"Sarah说了吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q676f4ff80f4e3d889c0f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qd168ff0081f19a577289","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":843,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T01:58:40.668Z","text":"他如果没说，二巡只会让他等","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd168ff0081f19a577289","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q61bfa20548d90df89680","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":844,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T01:58:55.073Z","text":"你必须说服二巡，你的动议永远不上传","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61bfa20548d90df89680","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qefe079e97e84ff4b5a86","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":845,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T01:59:02.394Z","text":"不然二巡肯定让你等","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qefe079e97e84ff4b5a86","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q4f5067732fa90b2f2bb6","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":846,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T01:59:45.638Z","text":"而且二巡回复Ryan bai 的意思，还是让他等","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f5067732fa90b2f2bb6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qe5cd7646954696e87948","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":847,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-09T02:00:24.319Z","text":"如何从853 转CVRA？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qea28c28a407ef3c529c0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5cd7646954696e87948","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea28c28a407ef3c529c0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q0b6179a6143b45ca8714","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":848,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T02:00:31.885Z","text":"等量刑结束","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4f5067732fa90b2f2bb6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b6179a6143b45ca8714","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f5067732fa90b2f2bb6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qfb661d0ffb814b815e87","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":849,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T02:00:46.013Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]我觉得如果不出意外 老郭翻案确实要量刑结束了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb661d0ffb814b815e87","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qe3c5fd596ec6c90f168f","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":850,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-01-09T02:01:00.296Z","text":"可以853和CVRA 混合双打","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe5cd7646954696e87948","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3c5fd596ec6c90f168f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5cd7646954696e87948","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q2872dc0f519f3c4f8f81","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":851,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-09T02:01:12.272Z","text":"所以要用luc正在挥霍争议资产，继续等就会造成不可逆伤害，不能等。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2872dc0f519f3c4f8f81","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qbdf43df7d1c788d29831","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":852,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T02:01:13.599Z","text":"这段时间 第三方要赶紧把所有司法记录上去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbdf43df7d1c788d29831","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q9a5c063d9f8da0635a67","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":853,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T02:01:24.300Z","text":"这个是最高法的事","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2872dc0f519f3c4f8f81","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a5c063d9f8da0635a67","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2872dc0f519f3c4f8f81","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q1c7fd3bfed4330187e9a","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":854,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-01-09T02:01:26.144Z","text":"不过现在你就直接CVRA呗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c7fd3bfed4330187e9a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q94820d9b9cec279c5b45","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":855,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T02:01:56.278Z","text":"现在唯一的变量是瑞恩说的深水炸弹 如果那个爆炸 这个案子就爆炸","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94820d9b9cec279c5b45","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qcda6508099e2cb9a86d0","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":856,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-01-09T02:02:15.172Z","text":"我觉得你现在马上CVRA，去南区，然后再去二巡，抓紧时间","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcda6508099e2cb9a86d0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q2ec0fe4761415dba2301","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":857,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T02:02:27.988Z","text":"我观察瑞恩的只言片语 大概知道这是个什么事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ec0fe4761415dba2301","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q9f9c1c89ead651daf14f","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":858,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-01-09T02:02:42.700Z","text":"说来听听？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2ec0fe4761415dba2301","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f9c1c89ead651daf14f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ec0fe4761415dba2301","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qa71e5437ddc6fd51dde7","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":859,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-09T02:02:49.018Z","text":"在二巡把这个环节打通，更有可执行性。只要立案，就能留下司法记录。最高法案都很难立。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9a5c063d9f8da0635a67","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa71e5437ddc6fd51dde7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a5c063d9f8da0635a67","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q386e794d818e00272df1","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":860,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T02:02:59.002Z","text":"先不说了 😄","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9f9c1c89ead651daf14f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q386e794d818e00272df1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f9c1c89ead651daf14f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qb0af2ee6ffb5e337b45a","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":861,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T02:03:32.290Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa71e5437ddc6fd51dde7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0af2ee6ffb5e337b45a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa71e5437ddc6fd51dde7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q04c847c699ddd82fb1ac","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":862,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T02:03:38.717Z","text":"其实瑞恩司法欺诈 解释一切了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q04c847c699ddd82fb1ac","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q65caea2baf2931995915","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":863,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T02:03:48.853Z","text":"螺丝哥说d破产案刑事案的绑定","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65caea2baf2931995915","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qb379e843f3562be881c0","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":864,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T02:03:59.746Z","text":"一切都可用733解释","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb379e843f3562be881c0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qb2094b8985373b3aec6a","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":865,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-09T02:04:22.168Z","text":"谁？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcda6508099e2cb9a86d0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2094b8985373b3aec6a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcda6508099e2cb9a86d0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q5552f95c4ddfcd61b13e","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":866,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-01-09T02:04:29.035Z","text":"我今天听小皮匠直播说783里的布雷迪，一本正经地装砖家","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5552f95c4ddfcd61b13e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q3115e3fe1121f4e6a00e","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":867,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-01-09T02:04:37.105Z","text":"你","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb2094b8985373b3aec6a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3115e3fe1121f4e6a00e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2094b8985373b3aec6a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q5806c3823c8b29c4ec65","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":868,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T02:04:41.950Z","text":"都是我们说剩下的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5552f95c4ddfcd61b13e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5806c3823c8b29c4ec65","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5552f95c4ddfcd61b13e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qa0e5e52f7e182ac43814","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":869,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-09T02:05:07.931Z","text":"？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdbb5b92d92fb57e9407b","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0e5e52f7e182ac43814","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q7fce46946afd506a2b35","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":870,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T02:05:45.740Z","text":"你现在受害者介入 你就说 由于853强制令被拒","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fce46946afd506a2b35","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q3237a263ae89f545ffeb","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":871,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T02:05:52.057Z","text":"你曾经说你死都不当受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3237a263ae89f545ffeb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q1e5b28910a5c4802ed34","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":872,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T02:06:02.732Z","text":"但为了强制令你不得不当受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e5b28910a5c4802ed34","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q657e6ca0aae032cab860","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":873,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T02:06:18.130Z","text":"这就是南区不给上传逼的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q657e6ca0aae032cab860","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q18e47f74cf2f5e8046a5","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":874,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-01-09T02:06:22.920Z","text":"对哦，高👏","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1e5b28910a5c4802ed34","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18e47f74cf2f5e8046a5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e5b28910a5c4802ed34","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q854ee32579bf396a888d","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":875,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T02:06:38.479Z","text":"这就是南区间接的司法强迫","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q854ee32579bf396a888d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qf5d5373b0fd0c5b29f37","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":876,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T02:06:42.918Z","text":"coercion","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5d5373b0fd0c5b29f37","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qb228167d5e0d03a98d9b","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":877,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-09T02:06:48.833Z","text":"写给二巡？ 还是南区？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q657e6ca0aae032cab860","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb228167d5e0d03a98d9b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q657e6ca0aae032cab860","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qb94323069e37f8339f28","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":878,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T02:07:35.571Z","text":"南区可以说一下 由于不给上传 你要申请强制令  为了增加通过率 你只能当受害者 即使你之前声明不当受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb228167d5e0d03a98d9b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb94323069e37f8339f28","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb228167d5e0d03a98d9b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qaf0d5795785e9de18ddd","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":879,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T02:07:49.763Z","text":"这都是因为南区阻断你正当程序导致的 司法强迫","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf0d5795785e9de18ddd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q505bf569633d0015a8e1","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":880,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T02:08:00.996Z","text":"然后以此为由再上二巡","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q505bf569633d0015a8e1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q45c2a118f84716b722fe","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":881,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-09T02:09:03.978Z","text":"再加上为了增加通过率，是为了保护自己的财产权，因为争议资产正在被政府受托人luc挥霍。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb94323069e37f8339f28","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45c2a118f84716b722fe","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb94323069e37f8339f28","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q0291e2e84d88601f773e","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":882,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-09T02:09:08.115Z","text":"那个越南曾是以853 郭受害人上的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0291e2e84d88601f773e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q4aaeb7be408ce1a789a6","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":883,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T02:09:26.962Z","text":"对的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q45c2a118f84716b722fe","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4aaeb7be408ce1a789a6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45c2a118f84716b722fe","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qe5196a47f6e75fe23209","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":884,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-09T02:09:35.357Z","text":"那都是那些特权人士随意玩弄法律。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0291e2e84d88601f773e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5196a47f6e75fe23209","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0291e2e84d88601f773e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qe4ba753169311cce5aad","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":885,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T02:11:27.757Z","text":"Cvra动议不等于当受害者吧，你们查查机器人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe4ba753169311cce5aad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q5df5040008338dbfdc7b","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":886,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T02:11:51.539Z","text":"引用cvra好像和当受害者还不是一回事儿","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5df5040008338dbfdc7b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q54f5594caf56058b7397","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":887,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T02:12:13.887Z","text":"当事人认为是一回事就行","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe4ba753169311cce5aad","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54f5594caf56058b7397","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe4ba753169311cce5aad","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qaf4a70d39ce61ab95a04","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":888,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T02:12:21.666Z","text":"那就不知道了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q54f5594caf56058b7397","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf4a70d39ce61ab95a04","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54f5594caf56058b7397","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q88a3c17e51d926e2e6a4","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":889,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T02:12:33.666Z","text":"你们仔细查一下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q88a3c17e51d926e2e6a4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qc0bcdecaed9b30b57dba","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":890,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T02:12:41.952Z","text":"不管如何 你都是让他做了他不想做的事情 导致的司法结果","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0bcdecaed9b30b57dba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qd661f543cb7dad8db989","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":891,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T02:12:44.809Z","text":"这就是司法胁迫","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd661f543cb7dad8db989","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q63454891454ec8065920","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":892,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T02:13:33.190Z","text":"这个案子，因为太奇怪了，所以被扭曲的事情太多了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63454891454ec8065920","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q3cac325971160cd21a02","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":893,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T02:14:35.184Z","text":"一个正常案子不会变成这样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3cac325971160cd21a02","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q680066d4e8513cff14f4","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":894,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T02:23:46.285Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q680066d4e8513cff14f4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qf5fbaafd73e4f7dcac45","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":895,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T02:29:51.567Z","text":"其实二巡让[删节：成员身份]等，就有点不正常。因为[删节：成员身份]说的是因为隐私问题不上传了，二巡却说是因为cvra文件太多","edited":true,"reply_to":"q4f5067732fa90b2f2bb6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5fbaafd73e4f7dcac45","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f5067732fa90b2f2bb6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q829a4d3f947f9e8e900e","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":896,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T02:42:22.468Z","text":"二巡估计收到十几份强制令","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf5fbaafd73e4f7dcac45","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q829a4d3f947f9e8e900e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5fbaafd73e4f7dcac45","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q6e597aee80fcfad27ce4","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":897,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T02:42:50.270Z","text":"如果每10个人里面有一个人申请 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说的是总体来说 他们确实受到很多","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c46a5598ddb5396f56d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q2e5c345147dab5a93c78","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":906,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T03:36:59.512Z","text":"2. 有 IFP（In Forma Pauperis）申请\n\n一旦 IFP 提交：\n\n书记员无权基于“成功率”拒绝 docket\n\n最多只能：\n    •    立案\n    •    再交给 panel 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文件形式合格（签名、当事人、关联案件明确）\n\n书记员的动作是固定的：\n\n👉 1️⃣ 直接分配 docket number（案号）\n\n例如：\n\nCase No. 25-30XX\n\n这是行政动作，不是司法裁量。\n\n📌 注意：\n案号 ≠ 法官已经同意你\n案号 = “我们收到了，这是一个案件”","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d2e843a8f40c24da575","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qa8fd61f03e71870958e7","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":909,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-01-09T03:39:26.948Z","text":"就是免费的六百美元那个表？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8fd61f03e71870958e7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q244224d4a9dd2d73a9f3","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":910,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T03:39:31.149Z","text":"是","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa8fd61f03e71870958e7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q244224d4a9dd2d73a9f3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8fd61f03e71870958e7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q3593c63c3c126819d8b4","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":911,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T03:39:35.890Z","text":"还能这样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3593c63c3c126819d8b4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q27e65b3dd62d222bbc2c","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":912,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-01-09T03:39:55.894Z","text":"那岂不是比出了六百还好？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27e65b3dd62d222bbc2c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qe2eff77057f8b65cdf01","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":913,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T03:40:48.710Z","text":"正常情况下 好像是这样","edited":false,"reply_to":"q27e65b3dd62d222bbc2c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2eff77057f8b65cdf01","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27e65b3dd62d222bbc2c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q1654a7e660255e56af47","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":914,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-01-09T03:43:29.059Z","text":"那[删节：成员身份]这次也不要出六百","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1654a7e660255e56af47","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q4fd5483257091a0e9eb1","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":915,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T03:43:49.017Z","text":"不会吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q888f8d1546ecdeb4698b","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4fd5483257091a0e9eb1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q6513ddffc694a23f14d0","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":916,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T03:44:01.641Z","text":"好像就是这样 你查查","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4fd5483257091a0e9eb1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6513ddffc694a23f14d0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4fd5483257091a0e9eb1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qc0ef34539c88d415ecef","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":917,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T03:44:11.686Z","text":"ifp就能直接立案？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0ef34539c88d415ecef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q73fd0f6ea23cb3145912","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":918,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T03:44:17.094Z","text":"不可能吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73fd0f6ea23cb3145912","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qb644e714c190ce30d142","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":919,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T03:44:42.678Z","text":"你也仔细查查","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc0ef34539c88d415ecef","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb644e714c190ce30d142","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0ef34539c88d415ecef","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qff25c6dbb3b43eaecc6e","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":920,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-09T03:45:49.090Z","text":"我找Gemini 确认了。确实如此。逻辑如下：​2. 为什么 IFP 会触发“自动立案”？\n​这是一个逻辑闭环：\n​您提交了 IFP 申请（免除诉讼费申请）。\n​书记员没有权力批准或拒绝 IFP 申请，只有法官有权批准或拒绝。\n​为了让法官看到这份 IFP 申请并做出裁决，这份文件必须进入法院的系统。\n​要进入系统，就必须有一个**“载体”**，这个载体就是 Docket Number（案号）。\n​结论： 为了处理您的 IFP 申请，法院被迫必须先给您立案。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe2eff77057f8b65cdf01","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff25c6dbb3b43eaecc6e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2eff77057f8b65cdf01","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q50920695e28ea58fc5e8","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":921,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T03:46:06.712Z","text":"机器人说必须是他们先批准了你的ifp，才会立案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50920695e28ea58fc5e8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qcef3fcc239fad25d6df6","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":922,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T03:46:52.146Z","text":"有钱人还被歧视了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcef3fcc239fad25d6df6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q5b62e27e1146e5711c9c","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":923,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T03:47:29.848Z","text":"［用户 beg***］  你是自己付钱还是ifp","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b62e27e1146e5711c9c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q1a30e0f4b2e00ee44c1c","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":924,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T03:49:22.439Z","text":"哦， 不是","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a30e0f4b2e00ee44c1c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q14d07b794c8c01b744f2","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":925,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-09T03:49:23.448Z","text":"那[删节：成员身份]直接IFP，顺便解释一下自己虽然确实出得起600美金，但不妨碍自己的收入水平有资格申请IFP。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14d07b794c8c01b744f2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q12ce7eaa4581df47453b","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":926,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T03:49:35.213Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q14d07b794c8c01b744f2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12ce7eaa4581df47453b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14d07b794c8c01b744f2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q39813eabe9b4412227a7","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":927,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T03:49:38.706Z","text":"ifp和强制令是两个不同程序","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39813eabe9b4412227a7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qdab4d5c023ef9ea34225","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":928,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T03:49:47.476Z","text":"怎么说","edited":false,"reply_to":"q39813eabe9b4412227a7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdab4d5c023ef9ea34225","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39813eabe9b4412227a7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qf5092f46d14375b452be","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":929,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T03:50:09.250Z","text":"强制令立案之后，他们会审查你的ifp,如果ifp通过了，他们才会裁决你的强制令","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5092f46d14375b452be","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q9030a980ec6cf6f12ad0","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":930,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-09T03:52:22.216Z","text":"​1. 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ifp可以直接书记员立案","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9030a980ec6cf6f12ad0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9bd0a5a953afeb1d5fd2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9030a980ec6cf6f12ad0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q791f6ac6821dac6edbca","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":932,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T03:53:20.633Z","text":"ifp和强制令是两个独立的程序","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q791f6ac6821dac6edbca","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qfc0b236f18bc8215bfd9","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":933,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-09T03:53:31.497Z","text":"不走特别审查，那么是书记员形式审查过了就立案。书记员不能看强制令内容，看到ifp,就自动立案。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc0b236f18bc8215bfd9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qf29e954c4eac091a3c7a","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":934,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T03:53:49.688Z","text":"付钱 可以让法官看看立不立案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf29e954c4eac091a3c7a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q439d6a3c32014381028a","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":935,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T03:54:34.730Z","text":"那个只是上诉","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfc0b236f18bc8215bfd9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q439d6a3c32014381028a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc0b236f18bc8215bfd9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qd0ec6686932475764632","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":936,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T03:54:39.635Z","text":"强制令是不一样的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd0ec6686932475764632","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q13597dcafed610c28fbb","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":937,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T03:54:47.205Z","text":"上诉基本上都会立案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13597dcafed610c28fbb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q86f975dfa4842ccf3326","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":938,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T03:54:55.131Z","text":"强制令他们要审查内容","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86f975dfa4842ccf3326","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q4ec3372f37e33cbb5177","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":939,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T03:55:00.994Z","text":"我觉得ifp无关","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ec3372f37e33cbb5177","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q3a3f48fcbf3d263c7967","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":940,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-09T03:55:06.758Z","text":"应该不会说同一个人同时寄了强制令申请个ifp申请，书记员给你分两次立案。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a3f48fcbf3d263c7967","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q895a46cb35a136e804ea","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":941,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T03:55:22.033Z","text":"自诉本来就会被审查内容，尤其是强制令，就更严格","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q895a46cb35a136e804ea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qd4846b4007410046d801","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":942,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T03:56:01.163Z","text":"不会有两个立案，但是他们是两个不相关的程序","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3a3f48fcbf3d263c7967","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4846b4007410046d801","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a3f48fcbf3d263c7967","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q76b00249960aa5993eb0","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":943,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T03:56:09.596Z","text":"法官不会管ifp吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76b00249960aa5993eb0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q7f33f77690a2dab020ea","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":944,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T03:56:19.893Z","text":"ifp应该是有其他人审查的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f33f77690a2dab020ea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qcbb450c13d0cb3de9123","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":945,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T03:57:50.441Z","text":"自诉被审查内容和格式是很正常的，因为没有律师，至少他们要看一下你是不是乱发的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcbb450c13d0cb3de9123","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q7557b33b0722e67e5c8d","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":946,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T03:58:07.585Z","text":"破案了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7557b33b0722e67e5c8d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q89f0b1bc93a3b8cd37d9","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":947,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T03:58:12.070Z","text":"［用户 him***］  就是ifp","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q89f0b1bc93a3b8cd37d9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q56744551799b4cb60c0c","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":948,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T03:58:23.377Z","text":"按道理说，内容只要合理，不应该过度审查","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56744551799b4cb60c0c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q657f242b4527956dfce7","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":949,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T03:58:34.110Z","text":"［用户 him***］  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书记员可以直接有权立案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3268d9dfba8038c3bcaa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q95a918a98ab023945f36","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":958,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T04:03:54.123Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]  就是这个原因","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95a918a98ab023945f36","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qc0307c9b94aa4f0d191a","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":959,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T04:04:58.532Z","text":"但二巡600块的ifp 你收入可以 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不审查内容","edited":false,"reply_to":"qce56e8216074b84959b0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q469af249eb173b253784","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce56e8216074b84959b0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"qf886f3ecc8104f86147a","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":984,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-09T04:13:44.857Z","text":"为什么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf886f3ecc8104f86147a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067"},{"id":"q7a87c02fac253a8a483e","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":985,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-09T04:14:09.384Z","text":"有ifp 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