{"id":"batch-000071","number":71,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-01-19T19:38:29.150Z","date_end":"2026-01-21T03:12:11.741Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 071 (Jan 19, 2026 – Jan 21, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. From Jan 19, 2026 to Jan 21, 2026, this 1,000-message batch centered on whether any second-round or pre-sentencing reopening remains viable and on how filing labels shape rights. Participants disputed the ordering of prosecution, forfeiture, and arrest; whether submissions should be treated as CVRA or §853(n) claims versus remission; and the exact boundary of victim status versus property rights. They referenced the United States v. Guo docket, Courtlistener 67012324, and Dkt. 720 in the forfeiture context, while also arguing over hearing access and record timeliness. Community statements, not court findings.","guide_en":[{"title":"Whether no filing means finality: can a second-round pre-sentencing reopening still be opened?","description":"Participants contested whether the lack of filing means no practical path remains, with kir*** and others arguing that unresolved filing status keeps the process open and affects counsel-level risk analysis rather than producing automatic finality. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q1ebda51e55272abfe548","q320835b58e39a3aa877b","q75ffd7ed68944ec23938"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q1ebda51e55272abfe548","summary_en":"kir*** relayed that, according to Ryan, the case had not yet been filed, which participants treated as the baseline state for later strategy. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q320835b58e39a3aa877b","summary_en":"beg*** said Guo’s lawyer should be in the same position as well. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q75ffd7ed68944ec23938","summary_en":"kir*** argued that if a case is not filed, counsel cannot pierce the lawyer’s risk model. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Prosecution, forfeiture, and arrest timelines are separate: prosecutor actions do not automatically point to one next step","description":"Participants claimed the procedural sequence is disputed, arguing that prosecution timing, forfeiture processes, and arrest do not mechanically flow together and that CVRA references can coexist with unresolved status questions. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qafa5ae805287e2179080","q63bfd37f20f4f21525e3","q95ac7a5d2f776f2c2733"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qafa5ae805287e2179080","summary_en":"ntp*** asked how prosecutors could proceed to charge or arrest when the court had not yet determined victim status. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q63bfd37f20f4f21525e3","summary_en":"chu*** claimed prosecution decisions are made by the grand jury and that this stage is not a public process. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q95ac7a5d2f776f2c2733","summary_en":"ntp*** countered that CVRA had already been invoked, treating that citation itself as a present fact in the thread. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Repeatedly contested boundaries of 853(n), 853(i), and CVRA: victim qualification and asset-determination order","description":"Participants argued that these provisions are not straightforwardly aligned, with kir***/him*** style claims that victim identity is context-bound and that 853(i) versus 853(n) outcomes depend on sequence and court characterization. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q15bcbdfc7a1eba4942bf","q3f129d06efcde74af3d8","qcac844645befb90ec5a3"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q15bcbdfc7a1eba4942bf","summary_en":"him*** said the victim status of a 853(n) motion was still unclear and was not firmly settled in the discussion. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q3f129d06efcde74af3d8","summary_en":"him*** claimed that, in principle, 853(n) should not be treated simply as a victim label. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qcac844645befb90ec5a3","summary_en":"ntp*** said victim status requires court qualification and suggested 853(i) operates only after the forfeiture stage. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Whether CVRA is downgraded to remission or miscellaneous complaint: relabeling disputes focus on reviewability","description":"Participants argued that CVRA filings are judicial in nature and disputed any judicial relabeling into remission or miscellaneous complaint categories, emphasizing rights are defined by the claim and may remain pro se with mandamus implications. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qd24dc8d0e8ba81fc4d48","q40a3afa3df0a0ca6029e","qc487f88ffb20cbcfc040"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qd24dc8d0e8ba81fc4d48","summary_en":"kir*** argued that CVRA victim materials filed in court are judicial submissions and cannot be automatically treated as remission or a miscellaneous complaint by relabeling. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q40a3afa3df0a0ca6029e","summary_en":"kir*** restated that a filing is a CVRA judicial submission unless it expressly presents a petition for remission under 28 C.F.R. Part 9. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qc487f88ffb20cbcfc040","summary_en":"reb*** claimed the supposed rule that using CVRA or 853(i) blocks 853(n) is unsupported and argued that 853(i) is discretionary and does not decide ownership, so relabeling could create due-process concerns. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Victim terminology and identity boundaries: being a victim is not the same as meeting 853(n) requirements","description":"Participants contended that transcript language often uses 'victim' for remission contexts, while others argued that this terminology does not automatically satisfy §853(n) property-claim requirements. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q551f50ecc71eb8d6ffe1","q10650c2c11ff0e80e7b9","q4db6a3558e18f4b48c93"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q551f50ecc71eb8d6ffe1","summary_en":"him*** summarized that the hearing transcript reportedly calls restitution applicants in remission to be victims, while warning the same parties may remain general creditors and not qualify for 853(n) recovery. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q10650c2c11ff0e80e7b9","summary_en":"him*** claimed remission applicants are the ones called victims. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q4db6a3558e18f4b48c93","summary_en":"kir*** claimed 853(i) and 853(n) are treated as mutually exclusive tracks in the discussion. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Supplemental forfeiture orders and asset scope: added funds pools and account seizures remain disputed","description":"Participants disputed which new assets stay within reach, with some saying additional property claims can be filed by petition or motion and others pointing to specific seized accounts, while also arguing about filing workflow and ECF record entry. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q0e55b1692ea52dcb22f3","q8dcb74ef4025e48bf45c","q540dd968d57ac133ad64"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q0e55b1692ea52dcb22f3","summary_en":"beg*** said the filing could be sent to the judge in the Southern District as either a petition or a motion. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q8dcb74ef4025e48bf45c","summary_en":"him*** described a proposed first supplemental preliminary forfeiture request seeking G Club Operations LLC funds and Kin Ming Je/Sin Ting Rong accounts, including a Banco Popular check number 103130500012442 for $2,112,510.70 and Barclays accounts in the same and $2,437,677.01 range, with reference to Dkt. 720 and statutes 18 U.S.C. §§ 981(a)(1)(C), 1963, 982(a)(1), and 28 U.S.C. §2461(c). Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q540dd968d57ac133ad64","summary_en":"reb*** claimed judge and prosecution filings appear to be uploaded through ECF from home while the clerk’s office was not doing overtime. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Hearing transparency and participation: remote remarks, recordkeeping, and narrowed public access","description":"Participants questioned how to track status and what hearing participation was available, with one member asking where to find updates, another flagging a scheduled hearing, and others disputing whether public attendance had been canceled. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q12781a00255e8f7774f7","q84bddc44ef109c4be4f9","q269fb7355a24b7a7628f"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q12781a00255e8f7774f7","summary_en":"siy*** asked where the latest case progress could be checked. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q84bddc44ef109c4be4f9","summary_en":"spr*** asked whether a hearing listed for the next day meant an updated court status. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q269fb7355a24b7a7628f","summary_en":"ntp*** said the process had only removed public in-person attendance. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Docket tracking and timeline interpretation: delay versus procedural custom","description":"Participants argued whether perceived slowness came from normal docket mechanics or other delay factors, using the United States v. Guo docket reference and a question over '790' while discussing delayed ECF records. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q8bdaac2116b4d9cff48d","q3930569857567e445635","qd43f5252cc7ac8a2de81"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q8bdaac2116b4d9cff48d","summary_en":"sar*** posted the Courtlistener docket link for United States v. Guo, docket number 67012324. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q3930569857567e445635","summary_en":"sar*** asked what the number 790 refers to in the case context. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qd43f5252cc7ac8a2de81","summary_en":"reb*** claimed that the record may be uploaded with delay rather than instantly. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Whether a special master is a substitute or a delay mechanism: procedural substitution or deferral","description":"Participants disputed the role of a special master, with one side saying it is judge-directed and another expressing confusion, while a third participant denied it is a mechanism for distributing money. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qe35989fed41bdec4ea72","q64436459946d2c77840c","qfab87532a09173093958"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qe35989fed41bdec4ea72","summary_en":"kir*** said the judge was going to use a special master. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q64436459946d2c77840c","summary_en":"kir*** added that she seemed unable to clarify things herself. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qfab87532a09173093958","summary_en":"him*** argued the special master is not being used to split money. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Third-party and lawyer roles in dispute: do allies, prosecutors, and counsel conduct alter procedural narratives?","description":"Participants contended that allied messaging, prosecutorial framing, and counsel-related assertions shape the case narrative, with claims that external postings and indictment authority remain points of factual contention. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q7ba877d9684fd00d825a","q222df5fa56ee2a354e14","q1e8ff6c47b9aabcd4067"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q7ba877d9684fd00d825a","summary_en":"beg*** noted that alliance members appeared cooperative in posting victim narratives and questioned what those narratives were meant to convey at that stage. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q222df5fa56ee2a354e14","summary_en":"kir*** asserted that the prosecution is the party that brought charges. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q1e8ff6c47b9aabcd4067","summary_en":"kir*** agreed with that assertion as highly likely. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Narrative spillover risk: discussion drifted toward political persecution and personal safety framing","description":"Participants noted that the legal thread moved into broader political-security framing, with messages about joining a new civic identity platform and references to Snowden-like asylum concerns. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q0627a08d84b2a25c2f95","qd1728bd0db7475f15d52","q94ace2e7386d2b38792b"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q0627a08d84b2a25c2f95","summary_en":"xia*** asked how to join New China Federation. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qd1728bd0db7475f15d52","summary_en":"xia*** said they needed asylum in a Snowden-like situation. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q94ace2e7386d2b38792b","summary_en":"xia*** asked if anyone had seen Snowden, reinforcing the security-themed framing. Community statements, not court findings."}]}],"summary":"讨论围绕案件是否还有“二巡/翻案”空间展开，分歧集中在程序入口与术语边界。成员一方面聚焦未立案、补充没收、起诉与逮捕之间的时间关系，另一方面对853(i)、853(n)、CVRA、733条款的适用及受害人资格产生持续冲突，尤其在财产认定、受害人名单与可追索范围上。另有关于案件动议是否被误归类为remission或misc complaint、材料是否及时入卷、庭审是否可旁听与远程发言的可及性问题。并行线程还涉及special master、第三方角色与律师行为是否影响案件叙事，部分观点还将议题向政治化和个人安全叙事延展，使共识难以沉淀。","guide":[{"title":"未立案是否等于终局：二巡与“量刑前翻案”路径是否仍可开启","message_ids":["q1ebda51e55272abfe548","q320835b58e39a3aa877b","q75ffd7ed68944ec23938"]},{"title":"起诉、没收与逮捕时间序列分离：检方动作并不自动导向同一后续程序","message_ids":["qafa5ae805287e2179080","q63bfd37f20f4f21525e3","q95ac7a5d2f776f2c2733"]},{"title":"853(n)、853(i)与CVRA边界反复拉扯：受害人资格与财产认定先后顺序成争点","message_ids":["q15bcbdfc7a1eba4942bf","q3f129d06efcde74af3d8","qcac844645befb90ec5a3"]},{"title":"CVRA是否被降格为 remission/misc 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master路线是否为程序替代/延期化：是实质推进还是规避核心争议","message_ids":["qe35989fed41bdec4ea72","q64436459946d2c77840c","qfab87532a09173093958"]},{"title":"第三方与律师角色引争议：受托人、胁迫沟通、程序正当性是否形成对抗核验","message_ids":["q7ba877d9684fd00d825a","q222df5fa56ee2a354e14","q1e8ff6c47b9aabcd4067"]},{"title":"讨论叙事外溢风险：从案件要件转向“政治迫害/安全被迫害”等身份化叙述","message_ids":["q0627a08d84b2a25c2f95","qd1728bd0db7475f15d52","q94ace2e7386d2b38792b"]}],"closed":true,"is_finalized":true,"updated_at":"2026-09-06T16:33:57.292Z","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_batch","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071/pages/4","base_batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000071?page=4","page":4,"page_size":200,"total_pages":5,"has_more":true,"next_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000071?page=5","prev_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000071?page=3","messages":[{"id":"q0be69199578e24d5bf2c","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":601,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-20T19:00:43.020Z","text":"Torres 宁死也不上传853自诉😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q64436459946d2c77840c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0be69199578e24d5bf2c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64436459946d2c77840c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q59050ab540bc3aed6828","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":602,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-20T19:04:23.102Z","text":"如果 又来一个60天自诉， 这次能有上千个人干： 因为853n可能不会像其他受害人那样 - 检方说的luc挥霍就挥霍了你们要承担损失","edited":false,"reply_to":"q64436459946d2c77840c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59050ab540bc3aed6828","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64436459946d2c77840c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q3d478bd9086ff2156434","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":603,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-20T19:05:21.747Z","text":"事实上到后来 郭先生赢了G系列 的钱都会返还给战友， 加赔偿","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d478bd9086ff2156434","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"qe6bcdd11b4a2c7efce0c","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":604,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:06:30.839Z","text":"https://x.com/panshirock77/status/2013660963740750113?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe6bcdd11b4a2c7efce0c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"qea0d768dc58a416fcfa0","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":605,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:06:35.269Z","text":"笔录什么时候公布","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea0d768dc58a416fcfa0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q6cbbc14503c69c95ddbe","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":606,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-20T19:06:55.604Z","text":"不知道","edited":false,"reply_to":"qea0d768dc58a416fcfa0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6cbbc14503c69c95ddbe","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea0d768dc58a416fcfa0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q9012c27f8acb8ca6ec7c","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":607,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-20T19:07:00.844Z","text":"只希望不要涂黑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9012c27f8acb8ca6ec7c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"qc2c1a2988ce5c217a79e","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":608,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:07:15.790Z","text":"这个货说马上公布","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc2c1a2988ce5c217a79e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q28c22ca3a7623a82d971","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":609,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:08:08.007Z","text":"special master 全案第一个提的是瑞恩的733","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q28c22ca3a7623a82d971","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q0504ec371e0a2a4891ec","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":610,"speaker":"joy***","date":"2026-01-20T19:09:06.122Z","text":"检方要搞什么special master，法官問，美國有过先例么？檢方说，应该有，只是我还沒找到🤷‍♂️","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe35989fed41bdec4ea72","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0504ec371e0a2a4891ec","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe35989fed41bdec4ea72","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"qbc68c2d76ed53710f8fb","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":611,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-20T19:09:30.429Z","text":"Special master是法官要搞的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc68c2d76ed53710f8fb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q7724e2ca82b364c54eb6","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":612,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-20T19:10:05.416Z","text":"是啊。这说明这不是法官的主意","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbc68c2d76ed53710f8fb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7724e2ca82b364c54eb6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc68c2d76ed53710f8fb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q5e85cc8cebbf32a2a619","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":613,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-20T19:10:12.098Z","text":"瑞恩说special master是要调查检方和受托人的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e85cc8cebbf32a2a619","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"qfab87532a09173093958","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":614,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-20T19:10:28.923Z","text":"不是让special master分钱的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfab87532a09173093958","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"qbacb20e9e5a405114420","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":615,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-20T19:10:50.060Z","text":"你去现场了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0504ec371e0a2a4891ec","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbacb20e9e5a405114420","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0504ec371e0a2a4891ec","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q7480a63aed565101d2f5","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":616,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:11:24.258Z","text":"然后有助手小声给法官说： 遇事不决问瑞恩 法官说： 滚！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5e85cc8cebbf32a2a619","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7480a63aed565101d2f5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e85cc8cebbf32a2a619","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q94ce70cdb81595d3ee8a","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":617,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-20T19:12:19.696Z","text":"内事不决问瑞恩，外事不决问chunk ，哦，不对，叫警察","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94ce70cdb81595d3ee8a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"qd088f3264a7ac0eefbf4","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":618,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:12:43.909Z","text":"法官要报警 这句话的脑回路我一直没搞懂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd088f3264a7ac0eefbf4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q37eafd7f17ad4da78843","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":619,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:13:16.292Z","text":"瑞恩的733的special master 说的比较笼统","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5e85cc8cebbf32a2a619","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37eafd7f17ad4da78843","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e85cc8cebbf32a2a619","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q9085da1a2937bd674932","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":620,"speaker":"joy***","date":"2026-01-20T19:13:36.067Z","text":"对","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbacb20e9e5a405114420","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9085da1a2937bd674932","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbacb20e9e5a405114420","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q6fe8edbd8de9fd34bfaf","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":621,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:13:38.426Z","text":"意思是说 不要让luc和检方插手 这样保证了公正","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6fe8edbd8de9fd34bfaf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q614e8ebc6b8fbba1d007","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":622,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-20T19:13:50.299Z","text":"哦，郭说了啥","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9085da1a2937bd674932","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q614e8ebc6b8fbba1d007","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9085da1a2937bd674932","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"qe435e731a40d1a16e62d","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":623,"speaker":"joy***","date":"2026-01-20T19:14:20.629Z","text":"现场不是灭爆小组的不超过三五个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe435e731a40d1a16e62d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q084cb8389dae1140069e","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":624,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-20T19:14:30.294Z","text":"瑞恩是要求独立的第三方机构，不是归法官管得","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5e85cc8cebbf32a2a619","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q084cb8389dae1140069e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e85cc8cebbf32a2a619","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q5483f72dd129ae6e2a5f","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":625,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:14:55.174Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]  瑞恩二巡的relief 是让南区执行733的rule60救济","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5483f72dd129ae6e2a5f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q9028a7e0d4d135de1962","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":626,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:15:09.314Z","text":"但是瑞恩二巡的rule60救济","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9028a7e0d4d135de1962","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q7c2103ce8c9d5aa56290","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":627,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-20T19:15:36.803Z","text":"他说啥了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe3eded4e27f4f9c39e41","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c2103ce8c9d5aa56290","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"qf95be4c25d355d665dac","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":628,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-20T19:16:12.289Z","text":"不允许现场录音录像是吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9085da1a2937bd674932","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf95be4c25d355d665dac","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9085da1a2937bd674932","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"qc325dd9aa5f01b5cf80b","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":629,"speaker":"joy***","date":"2026-01-20T19:16:34.704Z","text":"不能录","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc325dd9aa5f01b5cf80b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q1bede4ffb183bbec56ec","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":630,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:17:08.224Z","text":"这是733的relief：\n\nDeclare 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This\n       alternative request is not a concession that forfeiture may lawfully proceed under\n       fraud but serves as a protective measure for victims if the Court declines to vacate\n       the forfeiture 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的意思就是不想解决fraud问题","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1bede4ffb183bbec56ec","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d44b5a66da7cdda4b2c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1bede4ffb183bbec56ec","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q5162aaeb4baaf1dae39f","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":635,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:18:31.887Z","text":"［用户 him***］  好像托雷斯的special master 就是跟着瑞恩的733！","edited":true,"reply_to":"qb20692da1accc7b7bc71","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5162aaeb4baaf1dae39f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb20692da1accc7b7bc71","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q986f37b26d4d8d97c691","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":636,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-20T19:19:08.060Z","text":"但是瑞恩说的是如果你不想解决司法欺诈，你就任命一个special master","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q986f37b26d4d8d97c691","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"qaad6d4e43090fdcf7104","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":637,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:19:33.742Z","text":"所以他们承认了他们不想解决………","edited":false,"reply_to":"q986f37b26d4d8d97c691","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaad6d4e43090fdcf7104","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q986f37b26d4d8d97c691","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q71f891141e5aed915a3e","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":638,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-20T19:19:46.916Z","text":"他们现在就是不想解决司法欺诈，继续没收，所以就认命了一个special master","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71f891141e5aed915a3e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q997b4da64be449e6f03a","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":639,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-20T19:20:02.460Z","text":"但问题是怎么才算protect victim rights?","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q997b4da64be449e6f03a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q732f8ed84c7e8e94ef0b","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":640,"speaker":"joy***","date":"2026-01-20T19:20:36.029Z","text":"总之这个案子，最稀里糊塗就是钱。法官一上來解釋853 n","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q732f8ed84c7e8e94ef0b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"qce2e9f77f7c25879517d","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":641,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-20T19:20:52.404Z","text":"法官最后决定什么了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce2e9f77f7c25879517d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"qca3124898166a2201165","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":642,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-20T19:21:32.226Z","text":"还真没准，但她还是没有给独立性","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5162aaeb4baaf1dae39f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca3124898166a2201165","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5162aaeb4baaf1dae39f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q9ebae3c9257cee2afc4d","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":643,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-20T19:22:13.088Z","text":"法官在special master 那个动议里说的很清楚，就是他只管分钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"qca3124898166a2201165","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ebae3c9257cee2afc4d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca3124898166a2201165","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"qea44a3588de1c1306e64","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":644,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-20T19:22:22.281Z","text":"现在是辩方说不能只分钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea44a3588de1c1306e64","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q4e3f1c4e139a814b8653","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":645,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-20T19:23:45.943Z","text":"这下暴露了，法庭上坐的是一群法盲","edited":false,"reply_to":"q732f8ed84c7e8e94ef0b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e3f1c4e139a814b8653","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q732f8ed84c7e8e94ef0b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"qb2c75688fb13b3188994","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":646,"speaker":"joy***","date":"2026-01-20T19:24:08.467Z","text":"853 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明明是我们要出名了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2c03091b584b52a61ca4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q445e747a7bfc3bae6d82","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c03091b584b52a61ca4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"qaf2e5bec1cee55807332","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":671,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-20T19:37:16.736Z","text":"律师一定会摘桃","edited":false,"reply_to":"q445e747a7bfc3bae6d82","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf2e5bec1cee55807332","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q445e747a7bfc3bae6d82","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q54b0bfa3c1e721ee5ead","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":672,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-20T19:37:29.050Z","text":"这是他们简历最漂亮的案子","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54b0bfa3c1e721ee5ead","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q71a257e86d447e7fbf96","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":673,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-20T19:37:35.039Z","text":"量刑直接没了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71a257e86d447e7fbf96","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"qd0bec460ff6b047bcd63","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":674,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-20T19:37:42.754Z","text":"无罪释放","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd0bec460ff6b047bcd63","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q6a0ddcc811fa14d1c1dd","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":675,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-20T19:37:51.303Z","text":"摘就摘吧，把老郭弄出来就行","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaf2e5bec1cee55807332","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a0ddcc811fa14d1c1dd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf2e5bec1cee55807332","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q458c64e9a692ebf6fafa","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":676,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:37:53.344Z","text":"我觉得世人不会记得郭的律师","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q458c64e9a692ebf6fafa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"qc4b285c80780e810af5c","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":677,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:38:01.544Z","text":"只会记得那几份强制令","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4b285c80780e810af5c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q383b59e2874d608cb4f0","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":678,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-20T19:38:08.713Z","text":"无所谓了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc4b285c80780e810af5c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q383b59e2874d608cb4f0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4b285c80780e810af5c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"qdc2fcf7a3a7102518429","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":679,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-20T19:38:17.500Z","text":"都有记录的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc2fcf7a3a7102518429","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q3fca235a57658ef9973d","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":680,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-20T19:38:31.373Z","text":"律师是无法跳过的环节，让他们小胜一局无妨","edited":false,"reply_to":"q458c64e9a692ebf6fafa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3fca235a57658ef9973d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q458c64e9a692ebf6fafa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q6f87433003ca4d1ceb84","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":681,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:38:41.335Z","text":"好像733 他们都绕不过去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f87433003ca4d1ceb84","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"qd16cdbb6d48f217065f7","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":682,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:38:46.206Z","text":"那就别提后面的了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd16cdbb6d48f217065f7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q94d395a20b96ccb57776","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":683,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:39:02.853Z","text":"后面的东西出来 他们直接投降吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94d395a20b96ccb57776","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"qf3b4e5b9c745174fa40c","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":684,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-01-20T19:40:54.217Z","text":"我昨天的第五个自诉，有一大段是写733。刚开始机器人的初稿不提733，被我当即发现、立即让它重写。后来它就写了这么一大段。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6f87433003ca4d1ceb84","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3b4e5b9c745174fa40c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f87433003ca4d1ceb84","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"qa4256b4bbab3bf1fa2b3","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":685,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-20T19:41:46.426Z","text":"你这个等俩礼拜可以上二巡，没准就给立案了，还没人提这个","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf3b4e5b9c745174fa40c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa4256b4bbab3bf1fa2b3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3b4e5b9c745174fa40c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q294df7eb6897c8a91a9f","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":686,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:41:48.213Z","text":"你最高法如何了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf3b4e5b9c745174fa40c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q294df7eb6897c8a91a9f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3b4e5b9c745174fa40c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q8760b01d415438bb9a73","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":687,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:42:00.692Z","text":"但她有一个在最高法","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa4256b4bbab3bf1fa2b3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8760b01d415438bb9a73","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa4256b4bbab3bf1fa2b3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"qdd3603b5584b6ec40093","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":688,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:42:04.802Z","text":"还能上吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd3603b5584b6ec40093","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q6c1044c2364e3f120d98","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":689,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-01-20T19:42:11.017Z","text":"明天打电话问问","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c1044c2364e3f120d98","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q3f3312ce6359b395ec22","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":690,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-20T19:42:34.757Z","text":"这是新情况，别人都没提过","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8760b01d415438bb9a73","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f3312ce6359b395ec22","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8760b01d415438bb9a73","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q911d2aa37586037f862a","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":691,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:42:39.701Z","text":"恩","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q911d2aa37586037f862a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"qa46905ac09ea8d92c6d2","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":692,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:42:41.146Z","text":"可以的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa46905ac09ea8d92c6d2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q27dc01802d99ed28427a","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":693,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-20T19:43:05.267Z","text":"如果二巡还拒绝，那就嘿嘿","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27dc01802d99ed28427a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q846ca9fac0667c834838","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":694,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-01-20T19:43:10.489Z","text":"二巡立案的几位可以把今天的事情告诉二巡吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q846ca9fac0667c834838","rep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joy***］ 你要是在二巡就好了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa72fc6169220c0b612a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q0178c8b967dfeb7f7106","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":699,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-01-20T19:44:27.296Z","text":"我的新自诉今天可以出炉。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0178c8b967dfeb7f7106","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q940f755698da9672797f","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":700,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-20T19:44:44.441Z","text":"你说啥","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0178c8b967dfeb7f7106","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q940f755698da9672797f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0178c8b967dfeb7f7106","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q53dce6db72ee70960570","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":701,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-01-20T19:47:00.996Z","text":"我把法官这两天发的命令给机器人，机器人就生成了初稿。\n我就说法官不公正、透明呗。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q940f755698da9672797f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53dce6db72ee70960570","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q940f755698da9672797f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q8c2aefd997bfd3b51cb0","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":702,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-20T19:47:22.977Z","text":"这个内容更适合给二巡","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c2aefd997bfd3b51cb0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"qa9a5d27ecbe5bfa8a303","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":703,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-01-20T19:48:09.227Z","text":"我没有二巡的渠道。但是写自诉是必须走的第一步。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa9a5d27ecbe5bfa8a303","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q79ded53cbc3e6d9d772e","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":704,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-20T19:49:50.576Z","text":"二巡拒你理由是啥来着","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa9a5d27ecbe5bfa8a303","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79ded53cbc3e6d9d772e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa9a5d27ecbe5bfa8a303","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q2a22da4f64fcb88579e7","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":705,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:50:56.238Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]  各位 瑞恩的733 和二巡判例 成功的把量刑变成了一个不可实现的选项。 我可以百分百断定 没有量刑了。但是那不意味着赢了，法院还有一个最肮脏手段 就是拖到死。如果没有其他变量，他可以继续拖几个月到几年把你关到死。所以 733 和瑞恩的二巡 最多只能让量刑程序不可实现。 要立即翻案，或者撤诉，必须是瑞恩现在在等的东西摆上台面才行。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a22da4f64fcb88579e7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q8f332b0895d6a1163d27","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":706,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-01-20T19:51:15.654Z","text":"跟其他几位一模一样，除了名字不同。说相信南区会解决此问题","edited":false,"reply_to":"q79ded53cbc3e6d9d772e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f332b0895d6a1163d27","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79ded53cbc3e6d9d772e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q23a734907b8c50ad3d54","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":707,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-20T19:52:08.418Z","text":"我这个估计最后也是这么个结果，好在已经把该说的都说了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8f332b0895d6a1163d27","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23a734907b8c50ad3d54","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f332b0895d6a1163d27","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"qf599e6262c578afa6566","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":708,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:54:38.115Z","text":"［用户 joy***］  有听到有人提强制令吗","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf599e6262c578afa6566","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"qbdaf72c1c20d51c7b690","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":709,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:56:51.061Z","text":"司法欺诈看来是把他们震到内脏破碎 但是表面上看上去还没事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbdaf72c1c20d51c7b690","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"qe94f6f76085127319162","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":710,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-20T19:57:31.134Z","text":"这个跟法官检方都有关，阻力是最大的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbdaf72c1c20d51c7b690","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe94f6f76085127319162","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbdaf72c1c20d51c7b690","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"qfba3151128eebd543200","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":711,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:57:43.060Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe94f6f76085127319162","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfba3151128eebd543200","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe94f6f76085127319162","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"qde94f58f905cff7f97cf","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":712,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:58:36.921Z","text":"这一波律师躺赢 摘桃","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde94f58f905cff7f97cf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q529b14bb8e1f01917cf6","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":713,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-20T19:58:48.175Z","text":"前两波律师 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853I","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39593a32ec1e01067a5a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"qf250d96907a54ffa9ee7","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":762,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-21T00:21:00.479Z","text":"也是remission?","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf250d96907a54ffa9ee7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"qd5afbde952c44519b5ba","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":763,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T00:21:13.470Z","text":"哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5afbde952c44519b5ba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q82779651b6de34f112b0","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":764,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T00:21:24.536Z","text":"法官还说，自诉853n会陆续上传","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82779651b6de34f112b0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"qe1874b80fe5a7659ece1","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":765,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T00:22:16.259Z","text":"除了853n之外，他们还收到了一些抱怨动议，那些他们正在一个一个审核","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1874b80fe5a7659ece1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q2251794e83e5468f14f1","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":766,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-21T00:22:23.453Z","text":"太好了。那我二巡的还交不交上去了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q82779651b6de34f112b0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2251794e83e5468f14f1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82779651b6de34f112b0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q32e4afaf3c23db33a42c","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":767,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T00:23:00.393Z","text":"853I就是remssion","edited":false,"reply_to":"q39593a32ec1e01067a5a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32e4afaf3c23db33a42c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39593a32ec1e01067a5a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q8d282fd596d13390b0ef","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":768,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T00:23:11.858Z","text":"但是盖尔还提交了853n","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d282fd596d13390b0ef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q63fabdeb5af810e5d853","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":769,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T00:23:30.871Z","text":"他是853I和853n一起提交","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63fabdeb5af810e5d853","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q2e3ab02ab704cf59aba4","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":770,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-21T00:23:31.515Z","text":"看起来法官检察官这些行为在为撤案 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🆚撤案是两回事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb789dbb39448f8dc68a1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q95fa8019da4d7d7b1085","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":778,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T00:25:38.524Z","text":"法官还说呢，郭的受害者申请853n是拿不到钱的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95fa8019da4d7d7b1085","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q6f988604cf783a065b71","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":779,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-21T00:26:13.498Z","text":"啥意思？ 我们这些853n拿不到钱？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f988604cf783a065b71","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071"},{"id":"q4445925819fa5c00ceb2","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":780,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T00:26:24.297Z","text":"意思就是你们这些受害者都是general creditors， 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