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那就是吃这检方饭 砸检方的锅","edited":false,"reply_to":"q93d8e8b6aa3b50c1f987","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q186e06295c82ba8930c9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93d8e8b6aa3b50c1f987","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qcd80fdd3d5d1102b30f3","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":56,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-21T04:09:44.237Z","text":"那已经发上去的不也得给你撤下来？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q68c88155bccbb8f3bf8b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd80fdd3d5d1102b30f3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68c88155bccbb8f3bf8b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qf352290556cb18bb09ab","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":57,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T04:09:57.369Z","text":"拖大人没说","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcd80fdd3d5d1102b30f3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf352290556cb18bb09ab","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd80fdd3d5d1102b30f3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q9a386fbe9de565a8c1e0","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":58,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-01-21T04:10:18.018Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a386fbe9de565a8c1e0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q13d443644ad1e4cc6865","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":59,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-21T04:10:44.318Z","text":"看来拖大人是想逼大家都去走减免程序。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13d443644ad1e4cc6865","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q80422b2aa8f56ba247e9","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":60,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T04:10:55.059Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q13d443644ad1e4cc6865","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80422b2aa8f56ba247e9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13d443644ad1e4cc6865","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qfe54f22569f6fd480930","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":61,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T04:11:27.673Z","text":"盖尔洗脚所登记的问题：1. 联盟农场洗脚所共谋犯组织推广 2. 涉嫌合同诈骗，联盟农场诈骗战友 3. Nick说郭知道喜交所登记，称其为伟大的行动，但是估计郭并不知道","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd1499761ec0bbc74b8cb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe54f22569f6fd480930","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1499761ec0bbc74b8cb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qe0915392caa5bf624bb0","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":62,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-21T04:13:05.888Z","text":"I违法5th amendment","edited":false,"reply_to":"q34a9222c137f93e8f47c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0915392caa5bf624bb0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q34a9222c137f93e8f47c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q72a5fa16cc9a0ba40b00","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":63,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T04:13:44.030Z","text":"法官说他们以后会慢慢docket 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ntp***］","edited":true,"reply_to":"q4b992f3089237a771a3b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68f46db4db5842547b63","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b992f3089237a771a3b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q1acc5dac82d7cdfd7fdb","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":72,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T04:17:23.206Z","text":"最后是853i","edited":false,"reply_to":"q000e87ff813590bb8204","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1acc5dac82d7cdfd7fdb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q000e87ff813590bb8204","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q7d03f07a8117a9155b5a","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":73,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T04:17:59.681Z","text":"Cvra和remission 不冲突","edited":false,"reply_to":"q186e06295c82ba8930c9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d03f07a8117a9155b5a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q186e06295c82ba8930c9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q6c5970805ef1291ee744","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":74,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-21T04:18:07.734Z","text":"卯着拱卒的虚假债权留记录，卯着luc正在不断挥霍本案财产对付它们的拖字诀。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c5970805ef1291ee744","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qb32e0e89bde3a97f7ea2","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":75,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T04:18:27.968Z","text":"Remission那些人如果不满意，还是可以发动议改成853n","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb32e0e89bde3a97f7ea2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q9d05e850f2b150c223d9","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":76,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T04:18:40.624Z","text":"法庭上的身份是可以切换的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d05e850f2b150c223d9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q1452919fe0f6ba4bde2d","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":77,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T04:18:44.260Z","text":"［用户 him***］  这个听证会 最大的问题 就是全场没有一句cvra","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1452919fe0f6ba4bde2d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q84b8e25a286cac0fc8b1","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":78,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T04:18:56.372Z","text":"不要以为法庭身份是钉死的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84b8e25a286cac0fc8b1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q2fe374b1a803ea12fb6b","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":79,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T04:18:56.601Z","text":"cvra 被矮化成抱怨","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2fe374b1a803ea12fb6b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qbb8ca3856ac7989fc226","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":80,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T04:19:15.020Z","text":"Complaints是抱怨，也是投诉","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2fe374b1a803ea12fb6b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb8ca3856ac7989fc226","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2fe374b1a803ea12fb6b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q35e5a882ec30913218ba","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":81,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T04:19:29.228Z","text":"这是全场最危险的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35e5a882ec30913218ba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q64c84791f9832e3a7888","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":82,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T04:19:51.641Z","text":"至于对二巡的法令 南区也说了 自诉慢慢会上传 不是不上传","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64c84791f9832e3a7888","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q35d3bf6aac3974cf7450","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":83,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T04:20:13.941Z","text":"所以 其他的事情 托雷斯都可以拖字诀","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35d3bf6aac3974cf7450","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q9e98e7cdecb6f83d2e30","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":84,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T04:20:14.110Z","text":"你要是被骗成为remission，可以切换身份，自己查查ai","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e98e7cdecb6f83d2e30","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q83696743a04b33288d8e","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":85,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T04:23:45.252Z","text":"我的意思是 面子上的问题 托雷斯都用拖字诀 暂时稳住","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83696743a04b33288d8e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q1031f117337bb4dc4c51","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":86,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T04:23:55.920Z","text":"但唯一的 就是cvra 她根本没提","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1031f117337bb4dc4c51","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q7b4e14dfb4c5d8372418","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":87,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T04:24:03.150Z","text":"cvra的矮化 她没有任何借口","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b4e14dfb4c5d8372418","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q0967ddfc409f00163c88","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":88,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T04:26:24.518Z","text":"既然法官开会说了他们正在审查这些投诉动议，也会上传853n动议，那可以给他们一周或两周时间，看看怎么样。如果还没任何动静,再去二巡也不晚。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd8befd1d60f9cc21980a","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0967ddfc409f00163c88","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q82abe3d547ce8b727aba","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":89,"speaker":"mol***","date":"2026-01-21T04:34:04.691Z","text":"“我用 CVRA 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指控能打赢（或引起法官重视），你就确实不会害了郭；但如果法官觉得你在胡说八道，把你当成又一个被洗脑的受害人，那这个保护逻辑就失效了。\n\n四、风险较高的情形（反向界定安全区）\n原文逻辑：只要你不求赔偿、不写受害人影响陈述（Impact Statement）、不要求量刑身份，风险就很低。\n\n深度解读：\n\n这是最实操的建议。它告诉大家：写 CVRA 动议时，千万别写“还我钱”、“我很惨”、“严惩诈骗犯”。\n\n要写什么？ 要写“检方你撒谎”、“你有证据没交出来”、“因为你的程序违规导致我的资产被冻结”。\n\n通过这种**“攻击性 CVRA”而非“索赔性 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今天状态会议 抓到了一个致命的漏洞","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73abc9d2fdaaffd4e91b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qfbf2eb413047d4073baf","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":95,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T05:00:40.932Z","text":"mvra 不适合用 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这不扯淡嘛","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb241c2a0eec05d3f0c54","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qd9fdbf75ace273b84795","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":123,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-21T05:26:37.388Z","text":"但是今天的会议不是最终裁决","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd9fdbf75ace273b84795","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q50230e3f63a10222eec5","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":124,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-21T05:26:50.707Z","text":"他们只是讨论？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50230e3f63a10222eec5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qf43b06a27a57f69e83be","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":125,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T05:27:17.738Z","text":"托雷斯已经决定谁能拿钱 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原文","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4da86fe85fbfd63017fc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q313a20a176243fb2588b","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":134,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T05:40:01.245Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]搞的状态会议原文 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Torres 是要发个法令的吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qace86c09d4cb88336462","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q66e69e0b617d86d50380","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":144,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T05:51:29.591Z","text":"不用","edited":false,"reply_to":"qace86c09d4cb88336462","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66e69e0b617d86d50380","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qace86c09d4cb88336462","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qa9b04c864fd2f3fb5ff7","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":145,"speaker":"Sap***","date":"2026-01-21T06:40:07.633Z","text":"欢迎 [删节：隐私信息] 来到 **郭文贵法庭文件，不禁言不删帖**! 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最好的律师 最好的律师","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd9e9fd36ad8a6c6d512","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q8890fd4752cf15c5eafb","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":150,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-01-21T07:35:14.742Z","text":"发给二巡还是南区？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbfbd662719391998e66c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8890fd4752cf15c5eafb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbfbd662719391998e66c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qe54b72b02a34873648fb","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":151,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T07:38:29.473Z","text":"联盟一如既往的踩检方 舔法官","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe54b72b02a34873648fb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qa39316b240c3c50d727c","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":152,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-21T07:43:23.117Z","text":"是不是又得给二巡一个动议","edited":false,"reply_to":"q72289bf2d4cf19a76e4f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa39316b240c3c50d727c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72289bf2d4cf19a76e4f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q78a3a49c154ce3303c38","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":153,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T07:43:32.266Z","text":"notice","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa39316b240c3c50d727c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78a3a49c154ce3303c38","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa39316b240c3c50d727c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qa8b9b2d6a57eb4dbaf62","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":154,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T07:43:33.968Z","text":"不是动议","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8b9b2d6a57eb4dbaf62","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q0a13f7daf531d34e3aac","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":155,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-21T07:46:19.752Z","text":"Notice也得serve吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q78a3a49c154ce3303c38","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a13f7daf531d34e3aac","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78a3a49c154ce3303c38","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qa1ab2bf05078d08d22e3","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":156,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T07:46:45.649Z","text":"对","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0a13f7daf531d34e3aac","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1ab2bf05078d08d22e3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a13f7daf531d34e3aac","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qe21cbd8b5bbd49f08b4f","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":157,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-21T07:47:24.402Z","text":"妈的为什么给我安排三个律师","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe21cbd8b5bbd49f08b4f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q509a9c6cc1c910bc7a29","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":158,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-21T07:47:54.935Z","text":"这是专挑软柿子捏吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q509a9c6cc1c910bc7a29","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qdbcf2dca95497279e854","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":159,"speaker":"Sap***","date":"2026-01-21T07:48:14.135Z","text":"欢迎 [删节：隐私信息] 来到 **郭文贵法庭文件，不禁言不删帖**! 你可以在聊天区交流郭文贵刑事案件，畅所欲言。这里有新老联盟农场羊帮质疑帮绝对不可能给你的言论自由。不禁言不删帖，唯一要求是不要在聊天区刷屏。这里所有言论只代表发言者自己的非专业个人意见，如有任何疑虑，请咨询专业人士。\n\n各房间功能说明：\n\n想快速了解郭文贵案件 ->  法庭文件分类索引，老郭案件内容\n想学习自诉 -> 自诉pro se 说明及参考\n想骂人 -> 对骂发泄房间\n想刷屏 -> 揭发自诉陷阱","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbcf2dca95497279e854","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q9ae4934a2ce7d34d621a","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":160,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-01-21T07:48:38.445Z","text":"啥意思","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe21cbd8b5bbd49f08b4f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ae4934a2ce7d34d621a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe21cbd8b5bbd49f08b4f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q92f0501df34d0dcf6861","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":161,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-21T07:49:22.812Z","text":"我二巡又加了两个检方律师，每次写信都得抄送给他们","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9ae4934a2ce7d34d621a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q92f0501df34d0dcf6861","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ae4934a2ce7d34d621a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q35440bdc8a105c04d0e3","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":162,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-21T07:49:54.162Z","text":"邮费都快花不起了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35440bdc8a105c04d0e3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q903b0a63cbcf4e8ab20a","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":163,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T07:50:13.905Z","text":"他们不会故意欺负你吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q903b0a63cbcf4e8ab20a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q762e686b3f019aca8a5c","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":164,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-21T07:50:40.273Z","text":"我也在想，我申请ifp，他就故意让我多花钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q762e686b3f019aca8a5c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qc4c3e5aaa1c7c5ce1c26","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":165,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-21T07:50:51.778Z","text":"这是故意为难我","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4c3e5aaa1c7c5ce1c26","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q72e4d6868097272f8ebe","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":166,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-21T07:51:55.056Z","text":"这事我该怎么投诉呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72e4d6868097272f8ebe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q3c44e2757b5318737dbf","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":167,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T07:53:51.520Z","text":"没地方投诉…","edited":false,"reply_to":"q72e4d6868097272f8ebe","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c44e2757b5318737dbf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72e4d6868097272f8ebe","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qe7e29bb8ba7df5e12215","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":168,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-21T07:56:46.726Z","text":"那不就是让我闭嘴吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3c44e2757b5318737dbf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe7e29bb8ba7df5e12215","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c44e2757b5318737dbf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q2015df9313dce42e4394","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":169,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-21T07:58:50.403Z","text":"盖尔是cvra和853i吧，没有853n","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4db6a3558e18f4b48c93","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2015df9313dce42e4394","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4db6a3558e18f4b48c93","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qe41a9702002e14663a1e","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":170,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T07:59:01.114Z","text":"是吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2015df9313dce42e4394","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe41a9702002e14663a1e","reply_url":"https://mub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给律师，可能就不会有后面要求serve 其它律师。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q92f0501df34d0dcf6861","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3031505d16377a1653f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q92f0501df34d0dcf6861","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qb45904b33baaa3012035","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":172,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-21T08:08:16.157Z","text":"难道不是serve 给检察官办公室即可？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb45904b33baaa3012035","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qc67abb0db517bda9f24e","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":173,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T08:11:48.274Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 而且 瑞恩之前在南区的保留意见的信 在二巡也更新了 然后这帮货自说自话给seal了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc67abb0db517bda9f24e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qbcc376735b5daeb41164","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":174,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T08:12:08.652Z","text":"seal不是要交四份嘛","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbcc376735b5daeb41164","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q688716090e6d71ec8f76","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":175,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-01-21T08:13:12.764Z","text":"电子邮件尽管给检方多发几处，反正不花钱，他们相互之间也不好懒帐。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe3031505d16377a1653f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q688716090e6d71ec8f76","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3031505d16377a1653f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q16b7acc92c1d52b914ff","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":176,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-21T08:13:51.530Z","text":"他这个是二巡要求邮寄","edited":false,"reply_to":"q688716090e6d71ec8f76","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16b7acc92c1d52b914ff","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q688716090e6d71ec8f76","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qa5b4683e1609eb7ea072","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":177,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-21T08:16:50.856Z","text":"二巡立案后，发notice 不需要邮寄，直接在pacer上操作即可吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc67abb0db517bda9f24e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5b4683e1609eb7ea072","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc67abb0db517bda9f24e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qe4ef0534a396ee68b7d8","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":178,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T08:19:19.577Z","text":"自诉不行","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa5b4683e1609eb7ea072","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe4ef0534a396ee68b7d8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5b4683e1609eb7ea072","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qbf2c65cc633717394164","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":179,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-21T08:21:46.933Z","text":"瑞恩现在都整了个律师了哟，可以南区自诉，二巡用律师这种操作？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe4ef0534a396ee68b7d8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf2c65cc633717394164","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe4ef0534a396ee68b7d8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q1b362b1c02fc40547ce5","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":180,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T08:22:07.706Z","text":"那可以的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbf2c65cc633717394164","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b362b1c02fc40547ce5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf2c65cc633717394164","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q89e87a49a0ac89d245fa","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":181,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-21T08:43:43.479Z","text":"https://x.com/testurheart/status/2013895212897067042?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q89e87a49a0ac89d245fa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q93f3e6fae7864eb7e584","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":182,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-21T08:45:12.688Z","text":"你这个信没有发4份，它们也给seal了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbcc376735b5daeb41164","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93f3e6fae7864eb7e584","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbcc376735b5daeb41164","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q7ec6b8947e15cc24ef02","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":183,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T08:45:18.535Z","text":"对啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q93f3e6fae7864eb7e584","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ec6b8947e15cc24ef02","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93f3e6fae7864eb7e584","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q1727f7c2867b4f1af82a","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":184,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2026-01-21T08:55:38.276Z","text":"需要你的二巡强制令被二巡驳回","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1a4131bdf3cba9b4f0e3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1727f7c2867b4f1af82a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a4131bdf3cba9b4f0e3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q65ad87caad7c2d58e587","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":185,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-21T08:59:57.479Z","text":"我得一封信问问他们，我到底需要抄送谁？这俩律师到底干嘛的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7ec6b8947e15cc24ef02","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65ad87caad7c2d58e587","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ec6b8947e15cc24ef02","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q06f537566c12079fca13","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":186,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T09:00:35.765Z","text":"你要抄送三个人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q65ad87caad7c2d58e587","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06f537566c12079fca13","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65ad87caad7c2d58e587","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q547a1f0e2dfad4c10615","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":187,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T09:00:40.419Z","text":"都要抄送","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q547a1f0e2d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guo的案件，就会表现出不正常，巡回法院也不例外。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86fecadd1f919713a53b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qfd6d31b807dbe1156926","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":193,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-21T10:08:26.849Z","text":"目前没啥要补的了。就是后续再要发啥成本太高了，要发四份","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4083a7883f5e40302cca","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd6d31b807dbe1156926","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4083a7883f5e40302cca","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q5f8379cf6d72d29c7ca5","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":194,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-21T10:10:42.206Z","text":"青 脱不了干系 \n图四 盖尔717动议 指明了使用4月份的填表信息\n图二 青们 提供的示范表 是853 n的申请\n图三 实际给的填写表\n勾选victim petition 就承认受害者\n没有勾选 用owner身份 还是petition\n都被盖尔拿去做了减免remission （853 i)\n总之和宣传的第三方853 n claim八竿子打不着\n妥妥的欺骗\n\nhttps://x.com/sarahzh67248600/status/1957048258523496487?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":"q89e87a49a0ac89d245fa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f8379cf6d72d29c7ca5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q89e87a49a0ac89d245fa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qcfde5a5b23d9bbf44a55","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":195,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-21T10:13:03.922Z","text":"他们是发电子邮件告知你以后要补充内容时要加上另外两位助理检察官？还是邮寄平信过来告知？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfd6d31b807dbe1156926","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfde5a5b23d9bbf44a55","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd6d31b807dbe1156926","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q53f0f4f5ee7b09555473","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":196,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-21T10:13:50.208Z","text":"没有通知，是在pacer上原来的检方律师是一个人，后来又来了两个人","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcfde5a5b23d9bbf44a55","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53f0f4f5ee7b09555473","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfde5a5b23d9bbf44a55","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qa92d307aa146b31c2bed","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":197,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-21T10:14:10.442Z","text":"是螺丝立案同一天加进来的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa92d307aa146b31c2bed","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qf8ab03578c2b3997f88a","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":198,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-21T10:14:25.349Z","text":"但是螺丝和瑞恩的律师没有增加","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8ab03578c2b3997f88a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q321f2ff6048d2cf22aaa","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":199,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-21T10:16:24.176Z","text":"是那两个助理检察官自己要求加上去的吗？说到pacer，我申请后那个授权码，考虑到美国假期季因素，也过了十个工作日了，您当初申请后多少个工作日之后收到那封信，我的是不是被寄丢了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q53f0f4f5ee7b09555473","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q321f2ff6048d2cf22aaa","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53f0f4f5ee7b09555473","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q4f01f92f97611a4e59db","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":200,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-21T10:16:57.627Z","text":"有点记不清了，申请后一两个星期吧，","edited":false,"reply_to":"q321f2ff6048d2cf22aaa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f01f92f97611a4e59db","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q321f2ff6048d2cf22aaa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000071","next_batch_id":"batch-000073"}