{"id":"batch-000072","number":72,"revision":2,"date_start":"2026-01-21T03:13:03.986Z","date_end":"2026-01-24T06:36:54.667Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 072 (Jan 21, 2026 – Jan 24, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Discussions centered on post-sentencing restitution and evidentiary channels, focusing on distinctions among the CVRA, MVRA, and 21 U.S.C. § 853(n) and 853(i), particularly whether victim status must precede asset claims. Participants disputed procedural requirements, debating whether all motions require formal docketing and how judicial silence should be construed between the Southern District of New York and Second Circuit. Technical concerns over evidentiary authenticity and service failures intersected with allegations of organizational manipulation.","guide_en":[{"title":"CVRA, MVRA, and Restitution Claim Boundaries: Whether CVRA Serves as a Direct Channel for Recovery","description":"Participants dispute whether CVRA submissions constitute direct monetary demands and debate court docketing obligations.","message_ids":["q12d767018d25c3441079","qebfe746df102f2b28b9c","q9a917823f3cdbf744b61"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q12d767018d25c3441079","summary_en":"him*** contends that submitting a CVRA filing does not equate to asking for money."},{"message_id":"qebfe746df102f2b28b9c","summary_en":"him*** argues that the court should not delay docketing private claims or Section 853(n) petitions."},{"message_id":"q9a917823f3cdbf744b61","summary_en":"him*** criticizes the withholding of docketing for CVRA procedural issues."}]},{"title":"Disagreements Over Mandatory Motion Docketing and Processing 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raised."},{"message_id":"qed7823505979c0b439d1","summary_en":"kir*** suggests setting aside the omission of the CVRA issue."}]},{"title":"Procedural Hierarchy Between Section 853(n) and 853(i) and Victim Eligibility","description":"Participants analyze the legal priority between third-party ownership claims and victim restitution status.","message_ids":["q5eb79894b7c575b19e33","q155fe97ed662cd8e831d","q3318fd9741851d8ba83c"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q5eb79894b7c575b19e33","summary_en":"beg*** argues that under 21 U.S.C. § 853(n), third-party claimants asserting superior ownership interests recover assets before funds are disbursed to CVRA and MVRA victim creditors through restitution."},{"message_id":"q155fe97ed662cd8e831d","summary_en":"joh*** contends that a participant was misled into filing a petition for remission rather than an ancillary Section 853(n) claim."},{"message_id":"q3318fd9741851d8ba83c","summary_en":"joh*** argues that claimants establish general creditor status through Section 853(i) or priority status through Section 853(n), though attempting to switch between them creates procedural hurdles."}]},{"title":"Discrepancies in Victim Scope and Asset Distribution: Shifting from Thousands to Roughly 140","description":"Participants dispute the prosecution's victim calculations and examine related docket filings.","message_ids":["q39085197267187b512c5","qce65e7a038b0b9f5e6fa","q7f322d98cde75b22f321"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q39085197267187b512c5","summary_en":"joh*** argues that Section 853(n) claims were delayed until docket 759 near sentencing, prompting the prosecution's objection in docket 785 and defense counsel's contest in docket 789."},{"message_id":"qce65e7a038b0b9f5e6fa","summary_en":"beg*** insists on clarifying the specific identity of the thousands of victims referenced by the prosecution."},{"message_id":"q7f322d98cde75b22f321","summary_en":"joh*** contends that citing defense filings in docket 789 to shift victim figures from thousands to roughly 140 misrepresents the underlying victim certification and remission processes."}]},{"title":"Authenticity of Evidentiary Sources: Scrutiny Over Recordings, Meeting Manuscripts, and Third-Party Texts","description":"Participants question the admissibility and authenticity of unverified meeting transcripts and recordings.","message_ids":["qefbf65d238764608ff54","q36f64af4789110437ced","q8919108f6568cd565983"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qefbf65d238764608ff54","summary_en":"beg*** asks whether complete meeting recordings and manuscripts will be posted to CourtListener."},{"message_id":"q36f64af4789110437ced","summary_en":"kir*** emphasizes that the authenticity of the materials must be confirmed."},{"message_id":"q8919108f6568cd565983","summary_en":"him*** asks whether the referenced material derives from a meeting between attorney Victor and group leadership."}]},{"title":"Procedural Regularity in Service Chains: Returned Mail, Missing Delivery, and Notice 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the prosecution's position against reopening CIPA before sentencing under Rule 16 and Dkt. 294, describing it as strong against disguised reconsideration while identifying narrow theoretical openings."},{"message_id":"q73f305e1b1e8ca9ca7f6","summary_en":"him*** asks why the previous CIPA request was denied."},{"message_id":"q7785562d67b2c75070bb","summary_en":"him*** argues that any viable sentencing challenge must bypass CIPA and invoke ongoing Brady due process obligations tied to newly emergent material issues."}]},{"title":"Second Circuit and Appellate Strategy: Southern District Timelines and Filing Protocols","description":"Participants discuss filing timing in the Southern District and coordination with the Second Circuit.","message_ids":["q9fe388f51842e66778a1","q9ea03f290589d30946e2","q83686fa161b97b311e53"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q9fe388f51842e66778a1","summary_en":"him*** agrees that participants intending to file motions in the Southern District of New York should begin doing so in the coming weeks."},{"message_id":"q9ea03f290589d30946e2","summary_en":"beg*** advocates maintaining pressure on the Second Circuit through impactful filings while noting the court appearance of SDNY prosecutor Jay Clayton."},{"message_id":"q83686fa161b97b311e53","summary_en":"zha*** asks whether participants should call three specific court telephone numbers regarding undocketed pro se filings."}]},{"title":"Convergence of Procedural and Political Narratives: Third-Party Representation and Organizational Agendas","description":"Participants dispute the motives behind group representation agreements and efforts to deter independent filings.","message_ids":["qd0a719037ed2a24cefec","q16bb7f62e902b0a8315c"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qd0a719037ed2a24cefec","summary_en":"roy*** describes paying a fifty-dollar representation fee without reviewing the agreement after following group explanations, recounting feeling misled by the 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s://x.com/Jickmang2/status/2013879379055784140?s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8eeafffb0c9315b3d6ca","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qb77b6e10394b4dbecdb2","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":210,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-21T10:26:45.574Z","text":"gv号能收到欧洲的电话？还是二巡书记员的电话？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9a0329f1f618bd6e761d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb77b6e10394b4dbecdb2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a0329f1f618bd6e761d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qfdba1cc7058064bece6d","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":211,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-21T10:27:49.687Z","text":"我的gv号注册的美国号码，gv可以免费接打美加的电话","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb77b6e10394b4dbecdb2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfdba1cc7058064bece6d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb77b6e10394b4dbecdb2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q6fcd4083220eb97323f2","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":212,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-21T10:28:25.667Z","text":"我知道，问题欧洲的快递员应该打不进来吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfdba1cc7058064bece6d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6fcd4083220eb97323f2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfdba1cc7058064bece6d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qb5929e7cfd7d25dc8320","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":213,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-21T10:29:09.017Z","text":"这就不知道了，我这都是邮局给送过来的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5929e7cfd7d25dc8320","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q8ebf0fe91831a525599c","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":214,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-21T10:29:18.165Z","text":"一个村子的都认识","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ebf0fe91831a525599c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q9499b5fbe4014f42f085","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":215,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-21T10:32:14.968Z","text":"二巡书记员会主动打电话过来？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8ebf0fe91831a525599c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9499b5fbe4014f42f085","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ebf0fe91831a525599c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q7a3ce3be90e6d09ea0c1","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":216,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-21T10:32:34.681Z","text":"嗯，让补交文件","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9499b5fbe4014f42f085","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a3ce3be90e6d09ea0c1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9499b5fbe4014f42f085","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qfa25b24409dc760ca8cf","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":217,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-21T10:35:15.800Z","text":"给我的退信被寄丢了，我往最高法走的证据都没了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa25b24409dc760ca8cf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q12a7b06b2213bcafc6fe","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":218,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-21T10:35:40.495Z","text":"让二巡再补发一次呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfa25b24409dc760ca8cf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12a7b06b2213bcafc6fe","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa25b24409dc760ca8cf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qebe843fa077bb2a647d8","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":219,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-21T10:38:16.915Z","text":"我问是否立案的电子邮件都不回，还没让补发。只有再过几天还没收到再用电子邮件问一下。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q12a7b06b2213bcafc6fe","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qebe843fa077bb2a647d8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12a7b06b2213bcafc6fe","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qc303a11b126437a653e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昨天的听证， 是应853规定， 为了应付二巡，而举行的听证。但是这个听证又关闭了853第三方参与的渠道/电话\n\n所以才没提CVRA","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46acf04d47c236149801","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q722c79b4ff64526781ac","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":231,"speaker":"siy***","date":"2026-01-21T11:52:08.287Z","text":"那有什么意义","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q722c79b4ff64526781ac","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q302e674e1b1eff4b4ae7","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":232,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-21T11:52:38.503Z","text":"如果这个是853听证，那托雷斯连曼宁都不如，曼宁只是不让人说话，但没有不让人参加。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q46acf04d47c236149801","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q302e674e1b1eff4b4ae7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46acf04d47c236149801","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q29f1aedf0bda59080ff9","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":233,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-21T11:55:03.987Z","text":"意义没有。大家同样可以喷Torres 分配方案 因为违规","edited":false,"reply_to":"q722c79b4ff64526781ac","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29f1aedf0bda59080ff9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q722c79b4ff64526781ac","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q10ed005064340393f678","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":234,"speaker":"Sap***","date":"2026-01-21T12:26:28.832Z","text":"很遗憾，用户 [删节：隐私信息] 离开了 **郭文贵法庭文件，不禁言不删帖**。希望他一路好走。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10ed005064340393f678","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q756ee2802d2c6280cea1","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":235,"speaker":"siy***","date":"2026-01-21T12:34:04.090Z","text":"倒是明确了受害者可以分他的资产","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q756ee2802d2c6280cea1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qb4a582342f65455f11ca","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":236,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-21T12:35:59.095Z","text":"这次的会议可以好好的干一把托雷斯了吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4a582342f65455f11ca","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q8a72c479d7e2707d39f5","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":237,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-21T12:53:52.153Z","text":"郭的资产？luc 善伟建 共匪盯着呢 luc 又花了30% / 还有资产分？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q756ee2802d2c6280cea1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a72c479d7e2707d39f5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q756ee2802d2c6280cea1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q54d56564a2544ad5b6e4","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":238,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-21T12:54:50.028Z","text":"郭先生翻案，是唯一的大家拿回钱的方式 加上补偿","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54d56564a2544ad5b6e4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q801deb1bc7c1fd27f3c9","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":239,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T12:57:51.150Z","text":"没听懂","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb241c2a0eec05d3f0c54","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q801deb1bc7c1fd27f3c9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb241c2a0eec05d3f0c54","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q1c89e523f8978f2a705b","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":240,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-01-21T13:06:13.950Z","text":"谁拿？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf43b06a27a57f69e83be","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c89e523f8978f2a705b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf43b06a27a57f69e83be","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q23559211c38881901cba","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":241,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-01-21T13:06:25.041Z","text":"luc拿吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23559211c38881901cba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qe82643b4020144225a4c","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":242,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-01-21T13:06:40.870Z","text":"还是盖尔！？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe82643b4020144225a4c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q80089440134ef62babb8","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":243,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T13:08:17.229Z","text":"法官已经决定，受害人只能分少量的钱，853n很可能分不着钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe82643b4020144225a4c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80089440134ef62babb8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe82643b4020144225a4c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q26ae045c1e25fa109cee","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":244,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T13:08:26.851Z","text":"但是这个案子拿钱是次要的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26ae045c1e25fa109cee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qc564b72d5727c9b6f3a3","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":245,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T13:08:44.434Z","text":"必须翻案才能拿回最多的钱加赔偿","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc564b72d5727c9b6f3a3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q196b1a8e01908122d823","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":246,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-21T13:09:32.589Z","text":"按照它们的计划，大家都要去登记减免程序，然后政府全部都给luc，大家到luc那里登记债权人，然后luc说普通债权人没份，得给pax等。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q23559211c38881901cba","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q196b1a8e01908122d823","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23559211c38881901cba","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qf02aeb5700201a7564ee","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":247,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-21T13:12:24.717Z","text":"对于很多说汉语的人，不管在全球哪个角落，每天幻想别人给你养老，自己不去争取，就是要这样对你。上庭自诉为自己争取的人，至少维护了属于自己的那份尊严。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf02aeb5700201a7564ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qe4597aa5282f1ca4b934","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":248,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-21T13:16:35.136Z","text":"这个853n拿不着钱的说法是错： 因为853n是清晰的 财产主人，会比减免的人拿更多的钱 昨天已经讨论这个问题了 - 英文法律也附上了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc564b72d5727c9b6f3a3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe4597aa5282f1ca4b934","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc564b72d5727c9b6f3a3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q59c8391621405d80994a","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":249,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T13:17:06.086Z","text":"法官说了，她认为大部分853n的人，不合格","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe4597aa5282f1ca4b934","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59c8391621405d80994a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe4597aa5282f1ca4b934","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q863fd9d8e57ca6b60ac3","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":250,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T13:17:22.738Z","text":"受害者不能当853n","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q863fd9d8e57ca6b60ac3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qb20a3f00b8bebac48ab5","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":251,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T13:17:40.368Z","text":"我不是说法官说的对","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb20a3f00b8bebac48ab5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q814d3aed684ba68e12b8","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":252,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T13:17:51.778Z","text":"我是说这个法官的逻辑是这样的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q814d3aed684ba68e12b8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q5eb79894b7c575b19e33","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":253,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-21T13:18:45.286Z","text":"In a criminal court proceeding involving asset forfeiture and restitution, the 853(n) claimant typically gets \"paid\" (or recovers their property) first, before the funds are distributed to CVRA (Crime Victims’ Rights Act) victims through restitution.\nThe reason for this lies in the legal distinction between ownership and compensation.\n1. 853(n) Claimants: The \"Owners\"\nUnder federal law (21 U.S.C. § 853(n)), an ancillary proceeding is held to determine if a third party (the claimant) has a superior legal interest in the property being forfeited.  \n• Status: An 853(n) claimant is arguing that the property already belongs to them, not the defendant.  \n• Priority: Because the court cannot legally forfeit property that the defendant didn't actually own, the 853(n) claim must be resolved before the government takes final title to the assets. If the claimant wins, the property is returned to them immediately and never enters the pool of money available for the government to give to others.\n2. CVRA Victims: The \"Compensated\"\nThe Crime Victims’ Rights Act (CVRA) and the Mandatory Victims Restitution Act (MVRA) give victims the right to \"full and timely restitution.\"  \n• Status: Victims are generally \"creditors\" of the defendant. They are owed money because of the harm caused, but they do not necessarily have a pre-existing ownership claim to the specific assets seized by the FBI or DEA.\n• Priority: Restitution is usually paid out of the assets the government successfully forfeits (the \"net\" proceeds). Therefore, the victims only get paid after the 853(n) claimants have taken their share and the government has finalized the forfeiture.","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5eb79894b7c575b19e33","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q973851be06e7587a503e","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":254,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-21T13:19:06.197Z","text":"法官也不能违法","edited":false,"reply_to":"q814d3aed684ba68e12b8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q973851be06e7587a503e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q814d3aed684ba68e12b8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q15282be52997b0c34765","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":255,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T13:20:21.923Z","text":"853n是法庭决定的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q973851be06e7587a503e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15282be52997b0c34765","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q973851be06e7587a503e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qb2e5a6b66547966f137d","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":256,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T13:20:30.955Z","text":"她不给你，你可以上诉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2e5a6b66547966f137d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qfa88f45825842e935456","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":257,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T13:20:44.503Z","text":"但是一审南区可以决定任何事情","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa88f45825842e935456","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q36a0137414152fd47348","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":258,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-21T13:21:08.500Z","text":"实际上 郭案不撤 大家谁都遭受巨大损失。现在谈钱太早 -即使谈了 也是纸上谈兵； 看看GTV 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不合格","edited":false,"reply_to":"q973851be06e7587a503e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c3a2b634ccc66042db8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q973851be06e7587a503e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q23331f2e2b90060907d5","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":262,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T13:22:45.001Z","text":"对，盖尔那些明显有问题","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4c3a2b634ccc66042db8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23331f2e2b90060907d5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c3a2b634ccc66042db8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qf4e9073ad792071215c3","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":263,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T13:23:03.591Z","text":"盖尔那些法官是铁了心当成受害者的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4e9073ad792071215c3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qb96ae2d078d2e72776d9","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":264,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-21T13:23:27.447Z","text":"按理说， 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him***］  盖尔的6000人也变成受害者认可","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe15b55f93eff0c224ecc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q02fc22a69762183a8335","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":326,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T17:35:27.080Z","text":"https://x.com/i/status/2014028825105944798","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02fc22a69762183a8335","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qfd2fca26539c0f71bd31","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":327,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-01-21T17:37:29.569Z","text":"七哥三只手的画有吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd2fca26539c0f71bd31","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q710b54c9f348a446d9c2","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":328,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-01-21T17:43:33.090Z","text":"https://x.com/zhangsanli73924/status/2013937520615043267?s=12&t=eXMPp66CZUFD_7vvMedcSA","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q710b54c9f348a446d9c2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qc6291da7917cd2f64314","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":329,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T17:50:27.609Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 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了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa4697189c23359f8ab33","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd445cd722b6b245e9372","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa4697189c23359f8ab33","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qbfa64fe916e1bd21adf6","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":338,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T18:44:16.798Z","text":"检方一直是要走remission的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd445cd722b6b245e9372","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbfa64fe916e1bd21adf6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd445cd722b6b245e9372","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qfb7b19524e09d6ed8ba5","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":339,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T18:44:25.513Z","text":"从王艳平开始就是这样了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb7b19524e09d6ed8ba5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q8185a0b1b6ce44d5fed2","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":340,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T18:44:31.013Z","text":"不走mvra","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8185a0b1b6ce44d5fed2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q540a2514d9bac90279ca","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":341,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T18:45:33.646Z","text":"［用户 him***］  你研究一下 mvra被托雷斯吃了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q540a2514d9bac90279ca","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q255db769952469444f90","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":342,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T18:45:51.829Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 核弹级别违规 他们以为没人能看出来 太小瞧我的智商了🤣","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q255db769952469444f90","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qa3903dc5e8aef719f40d","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":343,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T18:46:51.881Z","text":"mvra 是mandatory 和cvra一样 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没有裁决","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q205eacddb7a8e43dc35c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qf6406d5da4d59147afa0","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":347,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T18:49:41.643Z","text":"状态会议就没mvra了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6406d5da4d59147afa0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qea10a09d251cc817f7af","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":348,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T18:50:22.752Z","text":"郭律师为什么不打这张牌","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea10a09d251cc817f7af","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q202775d07f595991639b","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":349,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T18:50:44.306Z","text":"郭律师cvra都不打","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q202775d07f595991639b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q91a57d25971f90ddd469","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":350,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T18:50:48.702Z","text":"mvra更细节","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91a57d25971f90ddd469","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qc7754e7382edcc2a2ba4","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":351,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T18:50:50.775Z","text":"更不会打","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7754e7382edcc2a2ba4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qf394f039afac6c9bf3ad","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":352,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T18:51:02.367Z","text":"我不太清楚，我有时间查查","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf394f039afac6c9bf3ad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q9be4480cfc141980c9a2","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":353,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T18:51:17.342Z","text":"对 你查一下","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf394f039afac6c9bf3ad","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9be4480cfc141980c9a2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf394f039afac6c9bf3ad","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qb9fcfb5104ae10c5e31d","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":354,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T18:51:21.042Z","text":"mvra 和cvra一样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9fcfb5104ae10c5e31d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q7dd1b83a087351b3f12d","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":355,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T18:51:24.579Z","text":"绝不可能被取消","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7dd1b83a087351b3f12d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q3bd8005e034d25b6172b","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":356,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T18:51:51.369Z","text":"没有任何法律人士可以在我眼皮底下违规不被我发现","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3bd8005e034d25b6172b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q166dca8a92f16d739cb6","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":357,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-21T19:01:29.194Z","text":"未明确引用853n的，那包不包括引用cvra的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2f37125ab94840b95bc0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q166dca8a92f16d739cb6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f37125ab94840b95bc0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q7dd2c5ab54dad0860103","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":358,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T19:01:40.258Z","text":"没说清楚","edited":false,"reply_to":"q166dca8a92f16d739cb6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7dd2c5ab54dad0860103","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q166dca8a92f16d739cb6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q17c63cc3844fbfbe7d0c","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":359,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-21T19:02:50.932Z","text":"法官没回复等于没取消？没取消为什么不提？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q76fb42977a1932e2aa93","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17c63cc3844fbfbe7d0c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76fb42977a1932e2aa93","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qb74b75b63be3e6a461e5","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":360,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T19:03:08.105Z","text":"他们只提对量刑有利的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb74b75b63be3e6a461e5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q4a6edc6d93cafce50f61","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":361,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T19:03:29.143Z","text":"状态会议定义了 没收可以拿钱的渠道","edited":false,"reply_to":"q17c63cc3844fbfbe7d0c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a6edc6d93cafce50f61","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17c63cc3844fbfbe7d0c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q66cd5e82e678845b42ba","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":362,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T19:03:31.735Z","text":"没有mvra","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66cd5e82e678845b42ba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q33aec2c9f0a2a8c36e20","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":363,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T19:03:37.575Z","text":"惊天大违规","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q33aec2c9f0a2a8c36e20","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q8ea2c1a105529d506a4a","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":364,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T19:03:45.039Z","text":"她看来是不想混了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ea2c1a105529d506a4a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q550a96e713bbc92ea2d7","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":365,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-21T19:04:28.307Z","text":"就说了个remission和853n，对吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4a6edc6d93cafce50f61","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q550a96e713bbc92ea2d7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a6edc6d93cafce50f61","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q599be69134ec77449751","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":366,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T19:04:33.355Z","text":"对啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q550a96e713bbc92ea2d7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q599be69134ec77449751","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q550a96e713bbc92ea2d7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qed7823505979c0b439d1","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":367,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T19:04:39.067Z","text":"cvra不讲也就算了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed7823505979c0b439d1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q32e0360c5f01eb7e256c","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":368,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T19:04:47.055Z","text":"mvra 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她无视","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q446c43aeb9c8748653f9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q58a966520dd089ea587a","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":370,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T19:04:59.741Z","text":"这就很严重了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58a966520dd089ea587a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q56885437606e48bb8ad3","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":371,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-21T19:05:19.148Z","text":"https://x.com/i/status/2014051491938525244","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56885437606e48bb8ad3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q39c75d38a09e50113681","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":372,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-21T19:05:24.350Z","text":"问下ai，刑事案中法律规定的投资人拿回投资的渠道有哪些","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39c75d38a09e50113681","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qb3101a1c27bd2ab1f33e","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":373,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T19:05:42.460Z","text":"我研究了 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放着如此明目张胆的违规不打 不知道说明什么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4c36c53f0df36ede275","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q1162fe4721cf26975e1d","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":383,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T19:34:18.757Z","text":"不过第三方和被告无关就是了 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跳过这一步 就是瞎搞","edited":false,"reply_to":"qae2f4b9fd84797be5200","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2fc9b1cfbe0a72bad73","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae2f4b9fd84797be5200","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q792f13a720b6d5fbf97e","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":388,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-21T19:54:39.833Z","text":"瑞恩还不上强制令吗？这个会是个好由头","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf4c36c53f0df36ede275","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q792f13a720b6d5fbf97e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4c36c53f0df36ede275","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qee9eceeb7d238d8ca650","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":389,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-01-21T20:34:16.648Z","text":"没引用853n的他们不入档，\n那咱们引用了853n的，他们也没上传文件入档。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q44176912ea24b5d41449","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee9eceeb7d238d8ca650","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q71fd6b93c2aea27dd091","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":390,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T20:35:41.348Z","text":"我根本不信rica","edited":false,"reply_to":"q792f13a720b6d5fbf97e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71fd6b93c2aea27dd091","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q792f13a720b6d5fbf97e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q0b1b23588a3d745d043f","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":391,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T20:35:47.898Z","text":"等法庭出来再说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b1b23588a3d745d043f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qd18078de07209d166cc6","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":392,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-01-21T20:36:25.552Z","text":"是有比cvra更强的mvra吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q24b2e766473fc62d416d","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd18078de07209d166cc6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q8af4efaf41a7eeb91d39","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":393,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-21T20:36:34.801Z","text":"这东西会上传吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q71fd6b93c2aea27dd091","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8af4efaf41a7eeb91d39","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71fd6b93c2aea27dd091","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qaa60b8fc18654629d0b5","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":394,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-21T20:36:49.283Z","text":"你仔细看看","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd18078de07209d166cc6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa60b8fc18654629d0b5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd18078de07209d166cc6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q3f60e1eccd8994f56820","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":395,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-21T20:36:55.780Z","text":"会的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8af4efaf41a7eeb91d39","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f60e1eccd8994f56820","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8af4efaf41a7eeb91d39","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q87ff0910030dd763835d","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":396,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-21T20:37:11.494Z","text":"那就等等","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87ff0910030dd763835d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qe783f6f035731a00dd9b","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":397,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-01-21T20:38:12.783Z","text":"我日他奶奶，我们在写给法庭的邮件里，已经声明了盖尔的非法代理行为。他还能够拿钱！？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb8ac7ab4163a02f7dd06","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe783f6f035731a00dd9b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb8ac7ab4163a02f7dd06","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q456bad98599b29a36248","batch_id":"bat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