{"id":"batch-000072","number":72,"revision":2,"date_start":"2026-01-21T03:13:03.986Z","date_end":"2026-01-24T06:36:54.667Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 072 (Jan 21, 2026 – Jan 24, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Discussions centered on post-sentencing restitution and evidentiary channels, focusing on distinctions among the CVRA, MVRA, and 21 U.S.C. § 853(n) and 853(i), particularly whether victim status must precede asset claims. Participants disputed procedural requirements, debating whether all motions require formal docketing and how judicial silence should be construed between the Southern District of New York and Second Circuit. 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各位 要注意一点 状态会议 托雷斯只是一个口头陈述 不是正式order。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c18e43a858aa3750c51","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qaee393112dfa5b477e81","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":610,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-22T17:13:24.608Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 你们要写：如果按照这样执行 会怎么怎么","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaee393112dfa5b477e81","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qc638b0dbe14efd2e9e3b","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":611,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-22T17:13:35.899Z","text":"千万别当作是已经裁决了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc638b0dbe14efd2e9e3b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qf6cbdee1c70dab55df0e","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":612,"speaker":"siy***","date":"2026-01-22T17:19:22.675Z","text":"请问这次状态会议，的意义在哪里？为了拉更多的人下水？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6cbdee1c70dab55df0e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q9a5585acc96c42c45736","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":613,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-22T17:19:42.047Z","text":"我想应该是法官 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roy***］","edited":true,"reply_to":"qf9b145c1863b52da242b","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4023e15562b2daefa018","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qe8000a4ac08de7c36cea","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":630,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-22T21:26:50.650Z","text":"他们都是一个团队的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q38fdee696d4b994f3224","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe8000a4ac08de7c36cea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q75591bdd912cc3a542a7","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":631,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-01-22T21:47:49.404Z","text":"1.    保留原图不裁剪（含群名、时间、电量、头像）\n    2.    录屏：进入频道→滚动上下文→点开“[删节：成员身份]”账号资料页→展示原消息仍在\n    3.    保存消息链接/Message ID（如果平台有）\n    4.    记录：平台名、群名、频道名、发言时间（含时区）、你加入群的方式\n\n\n是哪个群？我需要把证据链最好？","edited":true,"reply_to":"qf9b145c1863b52da242b","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q75591bdd912cc3a542a7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q209c4fda49ba2e6e49dc","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":632,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-01-22T21:48:22.303Z","text":"这不是骂战，这是公开悬赏暴力行为，且目标指向参与司法程序/公开陈述的人。这类行为与Bai案披露的恐吓异议者模式高度一致，已固证并提交平台/执法机关核查。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q209c4fda49ba2e6e49dc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q06e9a2f2e35e1aae600f","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":633,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-22T21:49:03.070Z","text":"以前的羊群","edited":false,"reply_to":"q75591bdd912cc3a542a7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06e9a2f2e35e1aae600f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q75591bdd912cc3a542a7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q7f60b52bf59494cc7109","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":634,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-01-22T21:49:32.342Z","text":"所有类似行为言语出现我们都不要和他们互骂，按这个条件去取证就可以","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f60b52bf59494cc7109","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qc0b23d2586425e9e64e6","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":635,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-22T21:49:49.046Z","text":"各位大神，有谁知道，那个34位共匪国安在美国制造网络舆论骚扰盯梢而被判刑的案子Bai， 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还签了协议","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc0b23d2586425e9e64e6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q666816a6d7c5116e98ac","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0b23d2586425e9e64e6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qd66873d34076b97855bf","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":638,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-22T21:50:17.176Z","text":"猎狐协议。谢谢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd66873d34076b97855bf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q0e9c9ea11fdae53eb54e","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":639,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-22T22:46:52.719Z","text":"正在看319 - \n\nA10项目是老郭搞的吗？ 政府 法官说郭用它继续诈骗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e9c9ea11fdae53eb54e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q7a0a03e3b718686cda24","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":640,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-01-22T22:47:34.066Z","text":"老郭进去之前，所有项目都是他搞的。没有老郭，你会参加啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a0a03e3b718686cda24","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q68d13c426e1c4cdbd82c","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":641,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-22T22:47:46.030Z","text":"不会","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68d13c426e1c4cdbd82c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qf476b47df47b241cdd86","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":642,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-01-22T22:47:55.798Z","text":"https://youtu.be/yJlBLPIFfnk?si=qYSi0b0x7MXmb4uE","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf476b47df47b241cdd86","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qcf0eebd332b11c342afd","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":643,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-23T00:02:49.797Z","text":"就算是诈骗资金，没有变成犯罪者所得，也不可以没收，前提是你要跟它磕，不去争取，就会被这么稀里糊涂没收了。除了被转移到诈骗犯名下的，其它的都可以不没收。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1581cdd8cb59fa1dcb07","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf0eebd332b11c342afd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1581cdd8cb59fa1dcb07","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q2b7774ad427112e41413","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":644,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-01-23T00:21:57.547Z","text":"我也是想不明白他干嘛这几年就和投资较上劲了，左一个又一个，前面都被围追堵截，他一直就没停","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b7774ad427112e41413","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q24765b90b50526622a6d","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":645,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-23T00:40:27.979Z","text":"我也一直很困惑，灭共演员那些贱畜，根本不值得花精力跟它们玩过家家，为何被告就是要这么玩？可能是该尝试的尝试，只要有机会把共产党拉进美国法院系统进行rico就要去尝试。我最开始觉得那些可能是中共权贵的孽子孽孙，后面它们表现得那么下贱，我就觉得完全不可能是孽子孽孙。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2b7774ad427112e41413","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q24765b90b50526622a6d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b7774ad427112e41413","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qb45250dd128e8d67194c","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":646,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-23T00:47:36.086Z","text":"794 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被告就没有被它们诈骗呢！","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa479bdc9a1c96be17382","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce4a740fdf4dd3992e0d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa479bdc9a1c96be17382","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q35cef37cad0abf2ad0d9","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":675,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-23T02:38:01.709Z","text":"https://x.com/Qiqi7877/status/2014525855654175075?s=20","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35cef37cad0abf2ad0d9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qc36256699839ce32281c","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":676,"speaker":"mol***","date":"2026-01-23T02:40:41.596Z","text":"在写 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讲的是极端情形下的回避义务（财务/个人利益冲突）。\n\n要用它们支撑本案，逻辑上需要多一步：“当法院的决策基础严重缺乏对抗性、且结构上偏向一方时，公众对公正性的合理怀疑上升”，而不是简单类比。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7538988e3de1f3845fb4","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc36256699839ce32281c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q2331b50c0f383deea07f","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":677,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T02:42:44.198Z","text":"看来你很懂？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc36256699839ce32281c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2331b50c0f383deea07f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc36256699839ce32281c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q585f34a2ea80365d9dc9","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":678,"speaker":"mol***","date":"2026-01-23T02:43:48.394Z","text":"我只是扔给ai，ai回答的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q585f34a2ea80365d9dc9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qb80736a6b91452688abd","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":679,"speaker":"mol***","date":"2026-01-23T02:45:10.881Z","text":"我只是贴出来我觉得有用的，供大家参考","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb80736a6b91452688abd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q1f0976a75a0a4866aca7","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":680,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-23T02:47:48.884Z","text":"Cipa本来就应该是密封的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2331b50c0f383deea07f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f0976a75a0a4866aca7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2331b50c0f383deea07f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q99dbfd4af845ce8e84f1","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":681,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-23T02:47:54.610Z","text":"辩方要求的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99dbfd4af845ce8e84f1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q7fbd87bf71ba53b75a4f","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":682,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-23T02:48:00.484Z","text":"和第三方没什么关系","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fbd87bf71ba53b75a4f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q78b15babffff824fd107","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":683,"speaker":"mol***","date":"2026-01-23T02:49:54.621Z","text":"真正有用的，是帮你把 795 号信当成一个 “程序锚点” 来记录和引用，而不是把它当成“直接非法行为”。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78b15babffff824fd107","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qac1a1672f2ee1bacbb4c","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":684,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T02:51:07.496Z","text":"有点泄密了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qac1a1672f2ee1bacbb4c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q001768dbf0ae8a638d0b","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":685,"speaker":"xio***","date":"2026-01-23T03:33:20.596Z","text":"老郭说：他只是代言人，项目和他没关系。🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7a0a03e3b718686cda24","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q001768dbf0ae8a638d0b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a0a03e3b718686cda24","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qeb253167a7b74558b1fe","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":686,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-01-23T04:04:12.289Z","text":"老郭说什么，没有用。法庭上他没有说话。陪审团认为有罪，就尊重这个事实！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q001768dbf0ae8a638d0b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb253167a7b74558b1fe","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q001768dbf0ae8a638d0b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q6bcfcabbd3634fd1d335","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":687,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-01-23T04:28:18.848Z","text":"给二巡写东西有什么格式要求？如何做才能被立案 ？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6bcfcabbd3634fd1d335","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q0c0467d5c0dc1176853a","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":688,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-23T04:55:38.235Z","text":"/还有个问题 既然青 AVA已经在王燕平的刑事案子(王案)里 做了victim （有庭审记录）\n/然后青 又在25年3月份 直播鼓动填表 宣传要接受当王案的受害者 接受政府减免remission\n/青用<王案受害者>的身份 鼓动本来应该走853 n 的<第三方投资者和客户> 也去做受害者\n/受害者 和 只要退钱的投资者 天然对立 这是明显的利益冲突 青这样 算不算鼓动登记 妨碍司法 虚假索赔\n/青这个美国公民 看来也是法盲\n如果做实了这个事 青在王案的庭审受害者的身份 要被质疑和剥夺","edited":false,"reply_to":"q35cef37cad0abf2ad0d9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c0467d5c0dc1176853a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35cef37cad0abf2ad0d9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qe1115f155f06d3897546","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":689,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T04:59:26.438Z","text":"不是破产案 是刑事案","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0c0467d5c0dc1176853a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1115f155f06d3897546","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c0467d5c0dc1176853a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q7b556a45ff456ee6195a","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":690,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-01-23T05:22:27.873Z","text":"说点题外话。\nTMD 新老联盟特别是当时的鸟帮黑白颠倒到了什么地步，居然把跪地求饶、认罪悔罪的王雁平捧为女英雄，而我当时也丝毫不觉得有什么异常，还留了不少“女英雄”的照片，一有机会就向人宣传。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b556a45ff456ee6195a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q580ea1997bb8c3b362d4","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":691,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-01-23T05:24:06.011Z","text":"当然，王雁平做的事，包括认罪悔恨，都是它们喜欢的，所以被它们称为英雄。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q580ea1997bb8c3b362d4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q0abbaacf6c73485cf360","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":692,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-01-23T05:26:08.044Z","text":"不得不佩服联盟这帮家伙的骗术，把我这个大活人骗得一愣一愣的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0abbaacf6c73485cf360","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q71a153152cca00eb8fe6","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":693,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-01-23T05:27:12.118Z","text":"郭被抓之后我还投资A10, 还继续买喜币。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71a153152cca00eb8fe6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q4c9484961d059193d57f","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":694,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T05:30:12.398Z","text":"https://x.com/q_may_007/status/2014485369627066617?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c9484961d059193d57f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qbb28700aec54e3828b69","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":695,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-01-23T05:32:57.562Z","text":"因为我相信联盟的骗术：七哥随时都可能王者归来、明天就会出来、下周就会出来、下个月就会出来、会当庭无罪释放、一直买喜币，跟老公直接打赌吃屎，直到716，老班长自爆、长岛模凌两可的态度，","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb28700aec54e3828b69","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qdd9dd3fc9a88c20db7a0","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":696,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-01-23T05:59:14.154Z","text":"像你这样的这几年遇到太多了，提前告诉你们，你们第一时间就是怀疑告诉你们的人有问题🤨","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbb28700aec54e3828b69","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd9dd3fc9a88c20db7a0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb28700aec54e3828b69","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qcfce8688dacf665b2461","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":697,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-01-23T06:05:30.866Z","text":"我当时特别讨厌砸郭的。现在仍然讨厌砸郭的，但是表面挺郭的更不是人，两者都不是人，它们其实都是一伙的，都是害郭的，只不过一个唱红脸，一个唱白脸，挤眉弄眼，一明一暗。挺的不是真挺、砸的也不一定是真心想砸：郭跟他们无怨无仇，为什么砸得那么起劲？如果他们真不喜欢郭，就远离呗。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdd9dd3fc9a88c20db7a0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfce8688dacf665b2461","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd9dd3fc9a88c20db7a0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q8c7ca9ee6a1c709766ff","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":698,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T06:09:45.769Z","text":"确实需要写一篇报告啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdf0cb353b26116f0567c","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c7ca9ee6a1c709766ff","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qd6221a3135062294ef3b","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":699,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-23T06:46:47.550Z","text":"盖尔代表6千人，但是他说他不代表喜交所， 那么谁代表喜交所？ 按理说，喜交所这个时候应该站出来，说这个喜交所与郭没毛关系，不应该被封，要求立刻解封。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6221a3135062294ef3b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q5252561c65575bf2ac27","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":700,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-01-23T06:47:53.318Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":"qd6221a3135062294ef3b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5252561c65575bf2ac27","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6221a3135062294ef3b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q437180f226084babf4f6","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":701,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T06:51:27.795Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 联盟农场的报告是不是要交给你了😄","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q437180f226084babf4f6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q0a2aef77c8fc9212ee2e","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":702,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-23T07:01:49.964Z","text":"Gavernman 不是代表数字银行的1百多人吗？ 他怎么又代表喜交所？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5252561c65575bf2ac27","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a2aef77c8fc9212ee2e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5252561c65575bf2ac27","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q676958ad1a4275816038","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":703,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-01-23T07:40:02.390Z","text":"Look the court 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beg***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd188961660f25c0e3ae1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qcfe20739ef304af5cca9","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":705,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T07:44:36.370Z","text":"你的救济可以针对共谋犯的853全部取消","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfe20739ef304af5cca9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q7419e11e364aa95ca548","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":706,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T07:44:39.910Z","text":"数字银行 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发的不能采用吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q24f78427f6ff906a140a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q6332fda7d105db4dadc1","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":716,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-01-23T08:30:51.710Z","text":"怎么办呢？暂停一下吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6332fda7d105db4dadc1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q155fe97ed662cd8e831d","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":717,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-23T08:35:20.334Z","text":"似乎 安小东 在这个群 有小号？\n他也反应过来 被青联盟联合盖尔骗了 再不提他是盖尔的客户 我以后不骂他了 \n视频二 青一直说的是claim 第三方 853 n petition for claim 给的示范表 也确实是claim\n但真正填的表 是petition for remission\n老流氓 gay也骗人 连外围都不如\n[删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q155fe97ed662cd8e831d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q11adcf31f6fdfc5fc92b","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":718,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-23T08:43:51.708Z","text":"等着看看 倾风乐 这几个傻X 什么时候能反应过来 被青的假853 n骗了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfa31438914e1bb46b921","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11adcf31f6fdfc5fc92b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q8c0e4cf95d8992c22d9e","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":719,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-23T09:03:47.969Z","text":"没有参与数字银行投资有资格说吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q71733451b65c5a3a2104","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c0e4cf95d8992c22d9e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q804c35c65aea442417e0","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":720,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-23T09:20:08.877Z","text":"这是啥","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd63fbb2105f34ef3ea4a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q804c35c65aea442417e0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd63fbb2105f34ef3ea4a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q71f4f3c020a9633a409b","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":721,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-01-23T09:26:49.989Z","text":"Xiaoyang jiedu guo","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8c0e4cf95d8992c22d9e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71f4f3c020a9633a409b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c0e4cf95d8992c22d9e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q7014c6775a480a1924b1","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":722,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-23T10:17:41.921Z","text":"只能从律师入手，因为他还代理了喜交所，共谋犯于建明，这是大多数人有关的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q71f4f3c020a9633a409b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7014c6775a480a1924b1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71f4f3c020a9633a409b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qab861399b8efc032bb48","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":723,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-23T10:18:32.306Z","text":"参与了数字银行的可以重点提数字银行和汉密尔顿","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab861399b8efc032bb48","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qd55e9dbc80d3a00059af","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":724,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-23T11:02:45.084Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd55e9dbc80d3a00059af","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qf480ddb6eed29d2afe97","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":725,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-23T11:04:59.880Z","text":"那帮人肯定都是老椅子，老椅子被联盟盯得死死的，不知道联盟用什么恐吓他们","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0069b0c25360531814f2","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf480ddb6eed29d2afe97","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qcee76d38f5030e8d8014","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":726,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-01-23T11:20:58.641Z","text":"共匪那套封号禁言","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcee76d38f5030e8d8014","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q10d3ff3a373e11c02936","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":727,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2026-01-23T11:50:32.301Z","text":"给最高法的自诉材料都递交了吗？等都交上去了我来揭示为什么被受理概率是零（而且我不需要读材料内容就能知道）。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10d3ff3a373e11c02936","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q2fd15647bb7a55c8263a","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":728,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-01-23T12:09:18.831Z","text":"Welcom your opinion","edited":false,"reply_to":"q10d3ff3a373e11c02936","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2fd15647bb7a55c8263a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10d3ff3a373e11c02936","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q59739bb84ad04516511d","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":729,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-01-23T12:12:23.993Z","text":"你能不能评价一下，美国250年司法历史上，刑事案件，在初审地区法院没有结案之前，在上诉法院有三个强制令立案的案件！这三个第三方强制令，是不是已经开创了美国司法史的奇迹啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q10d3ff3a373e11c02936","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59739bb84ad04516511d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10d3ff3a373e11c02936","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qb08e74930a3b885d189f","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":730,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-01-23T12:23:31.386Z","text":"他是觉得郭案还没达到制度性修正的程度","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb08e74930a3b885d189f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q4904b622d727995221c5","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":731,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2026-01-23T13:03:59.238Z","text":"截图发给FBI就行，RICO黑帮成员铁定了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4904b622d727995221c5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qe135a0d54b54c7c73808","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":732,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2026-01-23T13:09:42.438Z","text":"司法冻结的钱顶多一半 还有最少几亿美元在大大小小爪牙手里，这也就是拖  死活不能判刑的重要的原因，只要有一丝希望就要拖到最后，反正都是死路一条  判几十年几百年没有区别。把冻结的钱在搞回来几个亿也是肥肉。龟孙和王啪啪孽畜的多少代孕私生子，300斤郭霉也够几辈子用了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe135a0d54b54c7c73808","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q2c291e9b61ab1b46cb88","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":733,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-23T13:15:45.619Z","text":"/这个羊帮的某K 用心非常恶毒 和青们一样 故意玩儿文字游戏 扭曲事实 偷换概念 \n/而且借用AI骗人 混淆逻辑 故意遗漏重点 红线是它的原始标记 蓝色圈内才是致命点\n/“只要去要钱 就是受害者”放它娘的罗圈屁！\n左图\n/注意 第一种要钱 是“赦免” 走853i 它是先承认“受害人victim”这一角色为前提 再谈 向“政府”要钱 赦免返还（petition for remission)\n狗屁逻辑 到底是 “先要钱-再当受害者” 还是 “先当受害者-再要钱”？\n第二种要钱 是“索赔”走853 n “个人”比“政府”更强的主张（注意这里的逻辑 意思是 要钱除了 “当受害者-853i-政府-赦免返还” 还可以“不当受害者-853 n-个人-直接返还” ）\n右图 \n/注意这个AI总结的前提 是先承认了“受害者” \n/在“受害者”前提下 大可能被视为普通债权人 再去试图引用853n 可能不会被通过\n/蓝圈里“换言之。。。” 那句话的意思是 申请过 赦免返还=受害者 再试图去用853 n 不可能 \n总结\n1  要钱 不等于 必须当 受害者（前后逻辑）\n还可以走 索赔-853 n-个人-直接返还\n2 提交了 赦免返还（petition for remission)  再试图用853 n 不会通过\n3 青们鼓动的25年3月填表 6000人这部分都是赦免返还 \n勾选victim者 自己承认是受害者（不用被法官认定）走853i \n勾选owner者 因为材料内容只支持赦免返还 依旧会被法官认为是 受害者 （即使盖尔在759声明了要使用853n 但这是口炮 骗人而已 他也明白很难通过）","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c291e9b61ab1b46cb88","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q3318fd9741851d8ba83c","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":734,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-23T13:26:21.258Z","text":"这个某K 可能是真的蠢 不太像装蠢 \n不知是AI把它绕晕了 还是它把AI train傻了\n上图\n/还是前提 它先承认当了“受害人” 才谈“债权人”地位\n除了受害人 第三方853n 也是债权人\n（1 直接做受害人-“普通”债权人\n2 直接做第三方853n-“优先”债权人）\n下图\n/这个“可能改善地位的途径”指的还是 \n先承认“受害人”这个角色 成为“普通债权人”\n再谈“受害人”如何改善自己的“债权人”地位\n/先当“受害人” (如853i ) 之后再用853n 程序上没有问题 \n这里的“辩护律师”是指盖尔的角色 不是郭的律师（盖尔在759之前用853i 759再试图用853n \n但是貌似行不通 因为提交的材料 不支持853n \n只能继续被程序认定为 853i 豁免返还 受害者）\n总结\n进案子里 先用853i当受害者 或者先用853n第三方 顺序不同 债权人的等级也不同\n当了853i受害者 程序上还可以用853n 能否通过 另说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3318fd9741851d8ba83c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q686827284b40c46b7b56","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":735,"speaker":"siy***","date":"2026-01-23T13:41:18.364Z","text":"你这发出来的东西自己都不能确定反复的更改","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q686827284b40c46b7b56","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q45cd9e2b50d80b138af8","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":736,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-23T14:11:49.925Z","text":"你去看看 羊帮的叙事 就是一边骂伪联盟 一边疯狂打压第三方自诉 最后还是绕回到 国会请愿","edited":false,"reply_to":"qef54d916d025bbc1f619","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45cd9e2b50d80b138af8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qfd95d36f073b9f1a05cb","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":737,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2026-01-23T14:21:29.965Z","text":"都提交了，请指点👍","edited":false,"reply_to":"q10d3ff3a373e11c02936","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd95d36f073b9f1a05cb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10d3ff3a373e11c02936","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qb38d7375d3d3be4ddd42","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":738,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-23T14:50:23.835Z","text":"郭律师789提了政治内容？ \n我昨天二巡的稿也有政治内容 提了319， 但是反复读完319后 觉得要表达的政治点不强 政治内容就全部删了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q51ee38ebf1c02f0e7cd7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb38d7375d3d3be4ddd42","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51ee38ebf1c02f0e7cd7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q5e5a19c23cb9d00cf005","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":739,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-23T15:11:35.839Z","text":"我的强制令已经被于1月9日returned ，估计退信都会被寄丢，之前parcer给我寄的信已经确定被寄丢了。大家加油。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e5a19c23cb9d00cf005","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q2317d7e8c7b6f395ed2e","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":740,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-23T15:28:45.063Z","text":"退的理由是什么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2317d7e8c7b6f395ed2e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q38e9139ad6314b64b5b7","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":741,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-23T16:08:57.111Z","text":"那岂不是没有证明了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5e5a19c23cb9d00cf005","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38e9139ad6314b64b5b7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e5a19c23cb9d00cf005","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qb9a22b566a23bd62e168","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":742,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-01-23T17:22:18.228Z","text":"信如果没有被偷现在好像都能查到","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5e5a19c23cb9d00cf005","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9a22b566a23bd62e168","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e5a19c23cb9d00cf005","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qf29ba0450869c60da9e3","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":743,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-23T17:47:58.339Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]  请看私信","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf29ba0450869c60da9e3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q4694e3d3e7124a57e145","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":744,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-01-23T18:53:52.272Z","text":"再写了寄，像螺丝哥一样第四次，一般退的理由我觉得可以请教瑞恩，他有经验，联系不上瑞恩的话问请瑞恩观察者也可以吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5e5a19c23cb9d00cf005","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4694e3d3e7124a57e145","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e5a19c23cb9d00cf005","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q4e0dc49049ece7370711","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":745,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T18:53:58.403Z","text":"看来[删节：成员身份]很怕最高法？ ［用户 pz0***］","edited":true,"reply_to":"q10d3ff3a373e11c02936","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e0dc49049ece7370711","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10d3ff3a373e11c02936","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q829a5c42bf70446f2607","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":746,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T18:54:17.533Z","text":"瑞恩观察者已经具备瑞恩50%的功力","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4694e3d3e7124a57e145","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q829a5c42bf70446f2607","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4694e3d3e7124a57e145","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q0f780de34832f0030db0","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":747,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-01-23T19:09:43.470Z","text":"哈哈，我打电话[删节：隐私信息] 并且发了电子邮件到 sdreporters.com 订购了1 月20日的会议记录。加急，每篇的首页是8.7刀，其余1.45/页，共7页，合计35刀多。两个小时后会收到PDF文件。\n到时候分享给大家。这个应该跟Rica 收到的是一样的内容。😂","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f780de34832f0030db0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q6fe604dede92cdc81ab1","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":748,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-01-23T19:17:16.464Z","text":"我在委托盖尔填那个表时完全不知道自己勾选的owner 还是Victim,后来我在X上问了[删节：成员身份],，我撤销了盖尔的委托，那么如果我当时不撤销委托，我后来以853N的自诉和委托时853i，就起了冲突了","edited":true,"reply_to":"q2c291e9b61ab1b46cb88","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6fe604dede92cdc81ab1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c291e9b61ab1b46cb88","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q072b725b96060c953201","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":749,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-01-23T20:07:01.881Z","text":"有什么特殊意义？\n根据您提供的法庭文件（Case 1:23-cr-00118-AT, Document 794），这并不是“发布了两次”，而是美国联邦诉讼程序中**“裁决（Judgment/Order）”与“指令（Mandate）”**两个不同阶段的体现。\n\n以下是这两个日期及其特殊意义的详细解释：\n\n1. 为什么会有两个日期？\n在联邦上诉法院（如本案的第二巡回法院）的程序中，法院的决定通常分为两步：\n\n\n2025年11月26日（裁决日）： 这是上诉法院法官们正式做出决定并签署命令的日期 。在这一天，法院确定了拒绝 Ranyue Bai 提出的“调卷令/强制令（Mandamus Petition）”申请 。\n\n\n2026年1月21日（指令发出日）： 这是法院正式发出**指令（Mandate）**的日期 。\n\n\n2026年1月22日（地方法院接收日）： 这是该指令正式在纽约南区地方法院（SDNY）登记归档的日期 。\n\n\n特殊意义： 根据《联邦上诉程序规则》，上诉法院做出裁决后，通常会留出一段时间（通常为21天或更长），以便当事方提出复议申请。如果没有复议或复议被拒绝，上诉法院会发出“指令（Mandate）”，将案件的管辖权正式移交给下级地方法院 。只有在“指令”发出并被地方法院接收后，上诉法院的决定才正式生效，地方法院才能据此继续执行后续程序。\n\n2. 这份文件的核心内容是什么？\n这份文件涉及一位名为 Ranyue Bai 的请愿人对地方法院（Torres 法官）提出的强制令申请 。\n\n\n请愿人的诉求： 要求地方法院停止压制其未来的提交文件，将其已提交但未登记的动议入卷，并对挂起的 Rule 60(d)(3) 动议做出裁决 。\n\n\n法院的结论： 拒绝了该强制令申请，因为请愿人未能证明其获得该权利是“明确且无可争辩的” 。\n\n3. 这份文件是否有“特殊信号”？\n虽然申请被拒绝了，但上诉法院在命令中加入了两段具有指导意义的表述，这在地方法院看来是有压力的：\n\n\n关于处理速度： 上诉法院提到地方法院收到了大量的提交文件，并明确表示：“我们相信（trust）地方法院会**迅速（expeditiously）**处理这些文件” 。\n\n\n保留重新申请的权利： * 如果地方法院未能在合理时间内将提交的文件入卷，请愿人可以重新申请强制令 。\n\n对于 Rule 60(d)(3) 动议，如果地方法院在基础刑事案件判刑后的合理时间内未采取行动，请愿人同样可以重新申请 。\n\n总结： 这并不是重复发布，而是法律程序从上诉法院回到地方法院的正式移交过程。它标志着 Ranyue Bai 这一轮的上诉挑战暂时结束，管辖权重新回到了 Torres 法官手中，但同时也带回了上诉法院要求其“迅速处理”相关文件的某种督促 。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q072b725b96060c953201","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q6d1b146b078ff1904256","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":750,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T20:08:42.794Z","text":"不是","edited":false,"reply_to":"q072b725b96060c953201","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d1b146b078ff1904256","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q072b725b96060c953201","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q5e68e478adddd5d8b19a","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":751,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T20:09:01.167Z","text":"你去看766","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e68e478adddd5d8b19a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qa02fc6827c9a76453414","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":752,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T20:09:17.870Z","text":"应该是一个道理","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa02fc6827c9a76453414","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q04e40cd598f2a2c904eb","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":753,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-01-23T20:22:28.009Z","text":"是不是意味着，或者可以理解为，Ranyue Bai 在第二巡回法院申请的强制令已经正式结案了啊？\n是的，根据这份文件（ECF No. 794），可以理解为 Ranyue Bai 此次在第二巡回上诉法院申请的强制令（Mandamus Petition）在当前程序阶段已经正式结案，但留有“重启”的余地。\n\n具体可以从以下几个法律要点来理解：\n\n\n指令（Mandate）的发出： 文件明确标注“MANDATE ISSUED ON 01/21/2026”（指令于2026年1月21日发出）。在联邦上诉程序中，“指令”的发出标志着上诉法院对案件的审理已经结束，管辖权正式移交回地方法院 。\n\n\n正式裁决为“拒绝”： 法院明确下令“拒绝”（DENIED）了该强制令申请，理由是请愿人未能证明其获得该令状的权利是“明确且无可争辩的” 。\n\n“保留重新申请权利”的驳回（Without Prejudice to Renewal）： 虽然此次申请结案了，但法院的驳回并非永久性的终结，而是带有条件的：\n\n\n关于文件入卷： 如果地方法院未能在“合理时间内”将其提交的文件登记入卷，他有权重新向巡回法院申请 。\n\n\n关于 Rule 60(d)(3) 动议： 如果地方法院在基础刑事案件“量刑判决后的合理时间内”仍未采取行动，他也保留了重新申请的权利 。\n\n总结： 这一轮的强制令程序已经随着“指令”的发出而正式结束 。在上诉法院的记录中，这个案件编号（25-2726）的当前诉讼已经处理完毕 。只有当地方法院在未来（特别是判刑后）仍不履行职责时，Ranyue Bai 才能依据这份文件赋予的权利发起“新一轮”的申请 。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q04e40cd598f2a2c904eb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q115048e2bb09513d8a99","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":754,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-23T20:46:02.725Z","text":"怎么才能证明是明确且无可争辩的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q04e40cd598f2a2c904eb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q115048e2bb09513d8a99","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q04e40cd598f2a2c904eb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q156231313b56f55b41ba","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":755,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-23T20:47:03.151Z","text":"这是说不清道不明的话","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q156231313b56f55b41ba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qbf08737fa4145be701d5","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":756,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T20:50:07.727Z","text":"如果你这个和rica大奶发的一样 我们就可以用了但是要说一句 这是书记员速记的内容 不是官方的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0f780de34832f0030db0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf08737fa4145be701d5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f780de34832f0030db0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qf9d9d602da968dc4f995","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":757,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-01-23T21:07:54.859Z","text":"所以，绝大多数强制令都会被拒绝。立案难，同意更难!","edited":false,"reply_to":"q115048e2bb09513d8a99","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9d9d602da968dc4f995","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q115048e2bb09513d8a99","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q840348e73d44f0abed01","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":758,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T21:08:20.182Z","text":"他的意思是量刑后才是无可争议 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就是因为这个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39cc1c9e40563cdf30bb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qf992b80a0e20991a8a83","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":762,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-01-23T21:09:45.815Z","text":"你的强制令，也会被拒绝。我的，应该也是拒绝。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8b0094386b07feac346d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf992b80a0e20991a8a83","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b0094386b07feac346d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q635f62db907aa24e2376","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":763,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T21:09:59.016Z","text":"［用户 chu***］ 你的不会","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q635f62db907aa24e2376","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q900eca2432188de04f96","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":764,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T21:10:09.797Z","text":"［用户 chu***］ 我认为 二巡在你的强制令中 会动手","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q900eca2432188de04f96","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q46379709143a5a92269a","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":765,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T21:10:22.837Z","text":"但不会把托雷斯真的请走","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46379709143a5a92269a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q6540e9ab99d4dfb22724","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":766,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T21:10:33.882Z","text":"会让南区修正记录错误","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6540e9ab99d4dfb22724","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q3c8dcd38da6bdae46566","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":767,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T21:10:53.949Z","text":"你这个太明显了 如果二巡装瞎 是说不过去的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c8dcd38da6bdae46566","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q75e49875cd0d4a2bb866","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":768,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-23T21:11:33.751Z","text":"没指望强制令会被执行，只希望能给南区压力，会带来改变","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf992b80a0e20991a8a83","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q75e49875cd0d4a2bb866","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf992b80a0e20991a8a83","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q1a91a15f2863495914ca","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":769,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-01-23T21:11:37.495Z","text":"下令，让托雷斯法官正式审查她的那两个命令。这应该是最好的结局了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q900eca2432188de04f96","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a91a15f2863495914ca","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q900eca2432188de04f96","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qd997f696a50c74f9917b","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":770,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T21:12:00.826Z","text":"是的 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你也就排进历史前三了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1a91a15f2863495914ca","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd997f696a50c74f9917b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a91a15f2863495914ca","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q8307ab90242d0cbd459f","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":771,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-01-23T21:13:02.807Z","text":"让法官回避，我感觉，这是不可能的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8307ab90242d0cbd459f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q11a71630c63d6aee48ca","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":772,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-23T21:13:28.121Z","text":"现在南区开会了，瑞恩是不是没理由再申请强制令了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11a71630c63d6aee48ca","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qe6374b771918c34d84c2","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":773,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T21:13:44.456Z","text":"是的 几乎不可能","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8307ab90242d0cbd459f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe6374b771918c34d84c2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8307ab90242d0cbd459f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qcee087adabd8d0cfbab9","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":774,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T21:14:01.665Z","text":"但不代表你不能写 相反 你必须写让法官回避","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcee087adabd8d0cfbab9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q13a4fd0b3a28785e2bb4","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":775,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-23T21:14:02.543Z","text":"那是揭露法官违规行为的必然诉求","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8307ab90242d0cbd459f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13a4fd0b3a28785e2bb4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8307ab90242d0cbd459f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qd366ed91017754a76441","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":776,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T21:14:17.224Z","text":"瑞恩现在随时可以renew了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q11a71630c63d6aee48ca","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd366ed91017754a76441","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11a71630c63d6aee48ca","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qba2c31e96d8987e9de89","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":777,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-23T21:14:17.664Z","text":"揭露半天啥要求不提不可能","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba2c31e96d8987e9de89","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q66d4117f02997f84aa7e","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":778,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-01-23T21:14:28.505Z","text":"第二巡回法院也不会替南区纠正528596两个命令。最多让托雷斯自己去审查，到底是不是搞错了。这是最好的结局了。搞不好，连这都做不到","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66d4117f02997f84aa7e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q97ecc5da7adee5f011c3","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":779,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T21:14:33.491Z","text":"但他现在为什么还不动手 我觉得他在玩大的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97ecc5da7adee5f011c3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q263a277abd6b7856f70b","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":780,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T21:14:51.868Z","text":"你说的这个 也已经非常非常严重","edited":false,"reply_to":"q66d4117f02997f84aa7e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q263a277abd6b7856f70b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66d4117f02997f84aa7e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qc9ff6365dd2d286fd447","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":781,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T21:14:57.817Z","text":"二巡介入南区具体事物","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9ff6365dd2d286fd447","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q02c76b677e75d75dbf6c","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":782,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T21:15:01.235Z","text":"是非常严重的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02c76b677e75d75dbf6c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qdeedff2a44facf108ad5","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":783,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T21:15:26.538Z","text":"二巡现在考虑一点 我介入chunk的 那要不要介入瑞恩的司法欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdeedff2a44facf108ad5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q00885610149e2c11e4b7","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":784,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T21:15:32.012Z","text":"要不要介入jason的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00885610149e2c11e4b7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q78d98dd84c60f2b0bf4a","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":785,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-23T21:15:34.113Z","text":"现在南区明确不上传非853n的动议了，二巡瞎了眼了，还相信他们会上传，这下被打脸了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd366ed91017754a76441","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78d98dd84c60f2b0bf4a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd366ed91017754a76441","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q8e41cdb09a52d3cd66e3","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":786,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T21:15:44.465Z","text":"二巡这是按照司法惯例","edited":false,"reply_to":"q78d98dd84c60f2b0bf4a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e41cdb09a52d3cd66e3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78d98dd84c60f2b0bf4a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q2cc96318d180d7e5a264","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":787,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T21:15:48.301Z","text":"司法礼让","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2cc96318d180d7e5a264","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q168f8754533750964043","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":788,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T21:16:04.083Z","text":"南区现在撕破脸了 二巡再礼让的空间几乎没有","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q168f8754533750964043","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q760ad311728c631e208c","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":789,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-23T21:16:38.651Z","text":"我的就是要求南区上传动议和法官回避，这俩诉求二巡已经有标准答案了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q00885610149e2c11e4b7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q760ad311728c631e208c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00885610149e2c11e4b7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q3f49f25b3f12712b595c","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":790,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T21:16:57.908Z","text":"法官回避 二巡没有标准答案","edited":false,"reply_to":"q760ad311728c631e208c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f49f25b3f12712b595c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q760ad311728c631e208c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q93280239ca14cbe254a6","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":791,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T21:17:16.221Z","text":"而且我怀疑 你的上传动议 二巡现在拒绝空间也没有了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q760ad311728c631e208c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93280239ca14cbe254a6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q760ad311728c631e208c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q09e08f9988989780d3c2","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":792,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T21:17:19.180Z","text":"因为状态会议","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q09e08f9988989780d3c2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q3c5d6e82325f8ec2b2ff","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":793,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-23T21:17:19.872Z","text":"瑞恩不也要求回避了，不也没结果吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3f49f25b3f12712b595c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c5d6e82325f8ec2b2ff","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f49f25b3f12712b595c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qd0901217688e3a6e9833","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":794,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T21:17:29.096Z","text":"瑞恩那个 不算","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3c5d6e82325f8ec2b2ff","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd0901217688e3a6e9833","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c5d6e82325f8ec2b2ff","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"q36d0ce890c9c2a9f3530","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":795,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-01-23T21:17:57.624Z","text":"现在，瑞恩的案子又回到南区。如果量刑之前，不给瑞恩上传文件。可以再申请强制令上传文件。如果再去申请强制令，要求上传文件。这怎么理解啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36d0ce890c9c2a9f3530","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qada2b6e45c50ff9b3c40","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":796,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T21:18:07.276Z","text":"不是","edited":false,"reply_to":"q36d0ce890c9c2a9f3530","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qada2b6e45c50ff9b3c40","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36d0ce890c9c2a9f3530","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000072"},{"id":"qe738f941a69cfe0c71a5","batch_id":"batch-000072","seq":797,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-23T21:18:12.052Z","text":"量刑后 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