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如果不想当受害人，可以参考这个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5d27af2d389845e4825","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q3ce682f8de5a70068410","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":464,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-01-25T22:24:25.785Z","text":"https://x.com/johnwood888/status/2015527560906690897?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ce682f8de5a70068410","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q0fcef573bec47f2a4404","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":465,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-25T22:25:05.137Z","text":"现在都不说是不是电话了，就直接七哥说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0fcef573bec47f2a4404","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q7be1e8238c5d961952b7","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":466,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-01-25T22:25:07.627Z","text":"都别忙了，郭先生宣布他要出来了，至于怎么出来，也许可以飞出来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7be1e8238c5d961952b7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q8b8a7e804db1fb74053a","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":467,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-25T22:25:11.007Z","text":"七哥梦里说的啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b8a7e804db1fb74053a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q49f302d269cd4c2b1b30","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":468,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-01-25T22:26:02.995Z","text":"在MDC修行隐居三年，成仙了，这群弱智","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q49f302d269cd4c2b1b30","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q7627997364e19a8fd11b","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":469,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-25T22:45:23.282Z","text":"ava说： 法官很聪明","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7627997364e19a8fd11b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q42cda0a6a536ee3b85c5","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":470,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-25T22:47:29.771Z","text":"美国的一个Colorado的选举官员因为揭露大选舞弊在蓝州被定罪关押，川普多次呼吁让她出来，也赦免了， 但是州政府就是不放她出来。70多岁了。Tina Peters - 儿子是gold 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是几号文件？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9585c8a80d410a619483","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q96c5007501e6513f00a1","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":554,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-25T23:53:43.727Z","text":"检方511","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9585c8a80d410a619483","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q96c5007501e6513f00a1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9585c8a80d410a619483","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q77ffe36cbc59b68f505f","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":555,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-01-25T23:55:21.449Z","text":"511是检方引用匿名信","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77ffe36cbc59b68f505f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q3ee3aa3ed73ead6ba2f3","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":556,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-01-25T23:56:14.329Z","text":"根据起诉书就能得出不是共谋犯就是受害者的推测","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ee3aa3ed73ead6ba2f3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q74987a8192c36a0cdcd6","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":557,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-25T23:56:48.453Z","text":"Gavenman代理的100人和于建民一个律师，意思就是他们不是受害者，他们和于建民站在一起","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74987a8192c36a0cdcd6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q9d90380950803f911872","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":558,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-25T23:57:02.496Z","text":"是不是这个意思","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d90380950803f911872","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q5c448fd1977398330a66","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":559,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-25T23:57:17.477Z","text":"他们和被告站在一起","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c448fd1977398330a66","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q7d9814aaa224e466e33a","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":560,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-25T23:57:50.741Z","text":"Gavenman 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但可以作为翻案依据之一","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbdef547b9cf3c04341df","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qacc02a98148ffbb4c2ab","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbdef547b9cf3c04341df","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q4c35df98fd3e795c7796","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":573,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T00:20:43.044Z","text":"因为你体现的是一个结构","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c35df98fd3e795c7796","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qa6912f5d0cf066e68c35","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":574,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T00:20:47.531Z","text":"结构性身份混乱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6912f5d0cf066e68c35","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q8def9d8d8584ec4ae1c9","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":575,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T00:21:19.157Z","text":"himam的意思 就是灭爆小组的狸猫 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him***］ 如果你硬要猜他们得到什么消息 我觉得可能是cipa","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe06430ffb8b62dd79047","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q0b84ed5e485a1a9eb791","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":580,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T01:45:59.911Z","text":"法官可能会同意","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b84ed5e485a1a9eb791","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qf0ceb368d6118564eaed","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":581,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T01:48:03.500Z","text":"cipa同意 整个案件叙事就变了 不是诈骗案了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0ceb368d6118564eaed","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q93c4f26ba559071a192f","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":582,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T01:48:37.382Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 如果是这个理由 这也解释了为什么联盟要用共谋犯去污染律师","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93c4f26ba559071a192f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qdbf59763bb9d5a4b17da","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":583,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T01:48:44.688Z","text":"［用户 him***］","edited":true,"reply_to":"q93c4f26ba559071a192f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbf59763bb9d5a4b17da","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93c4f26ba559071a192f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qab26d77f86328ebfc3df","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":584,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T02:04:23.929Z","text":"有个问题 目前法官 检方 能不能联系青联盟？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc4bc122574f5d133eb0e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab26d77f86328ebfc3df","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4bc122574f5d133eb0e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q15bec24449e41e1a29c0","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":585,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-26T02:05:50.687Z","text":"只要有一个g系列投资者被认定为853n，那就是所有的g系列投资者都是，那就意味者所有g系列财产不属于被告所有，这就直接导致整个案件叙事崩塌，因为整个案件就是建立在政府受托人luc的非法长期“临时扣押”形成了被告转移了g系列资产的法律事实，然后就会直接翻案，所以不可能案件被维持，然后g系列投资者被认定为853n，这就是强制让luc来853n听证南区不可能批准，只能在二巡申请强制南区这么做才可能有luc被强制来853n听证的发生。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15bec24449e41e1a29c0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q0d202e2790b9262b800c","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":586,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T02:09:04.671Z","text":"所以这个案子唯一能自洽的结果就是所有人都走remission","edited":false,"reply_to":"q15bec24449e41e1a29c0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d202e2790b9262b800c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15bec24449e41e1a29c0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q32b58640317e595675af","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":587,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T02:09:09.342Z","text":"意思就是 G系列投资者 是一个整体 一个团体\n目前青 委员会 是被法庭法理认可的代表\n本当是把投资者做成853n 但引导成了853i 受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":"q15bec24449e41e1a29c0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32b58640317e595675af","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15bec24449e41e1a29c0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q6cf45ce9ec7d0e756f65","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":588,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T02:12:09.014Z","text":"结果搞成了853 i","edited":false,"reply_to":"q32b58640317e595675af","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6cf45ce9ec7d0e756f65","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32b58640317e595675af","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q00eacd25cb04cbdb3111","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":589,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T02:12:18.037Z","text":"对 [删节：成员身份] 说的就是这个意思","edited":true,"reply_to":"q6cf45ce9ec7d0e756f65","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00eacd25cb04cbdb3111","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6cf45ce9ec7d0e756f65","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q93521d1b9d53d99da822","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":590,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-26T02:12:26.161Z","text":"都是同样的参与农场借贷,gclub,喜交易所，只要一个投资者的财产所有权被承认，那其他人也得被承认，然后被告转移了财产就不成立。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q32b58640317e595675af","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93521d1b9d53d99da822","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32b58640317e595675af","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qcf2e68092a1eabac9212","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":591,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T02:13:26.961Z","text":"👆 再仔细看这三张图 \n他说的“受害者”委员会 意思是现在的投资者都是“受害者”角色\n但“投资者团体”的真正意图 是去做853n 证明是投资者的钱 被做污点证人的“受害者”挪用 而不是郭转移","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe6b31de87373e70073d7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf2e68092a1eabac9212","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe6b31de87373e70073d7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qa7c0f567f9dcfc07b89f","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":592,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-26T02:15:59.732Z","text":"只要有一个人到二巡申请强制南区传唤luc开853听证，只要立案，就算被驳回。南区还是绕过853n听证量刑，然后上诉翻案就会更快。不管是三方上诉和被告上诉，都会更快让上级法院面对现实。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0d202e2790b9262b800c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7c0f567f9dcfc07b89f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d202e2790b9262b800c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qdca11c2caf3931633e4d","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":593,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T02:16:20.496Z","text":"二巡没有这个权限","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa7c0f567f9dcfc07b89f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdca11c2caf3931633e4d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7c0f567f9dcfc07b89f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qf8ce191f20172e82e157","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":594,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-26T02:17:08.041Z","text":"二巡可以强制南区开听证，除非luc把财产交给南区检方。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdca11c2caf3931633e4d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8ce191f20172e82e157","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdca11c2caf3931633e4d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q6d2e5c9b8c79e4dc69fc","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":595,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T02:17:19.988Z","text":"这个不可能的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf8ce191f20172e82e157","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d2e5c9b8c79e4dc69fc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8ce191f20172e82e157","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qda112464d2664cac2f95","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":596,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T02:17:51.155Z","text":"二巡能做的非常有限","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda112464d2664cac2f95","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qfb1a11c953fd51540c42","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":597,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T02:18:29.468Z","text":"你只能做一件事 就是把luc拒绝听证 南区拒绝传唤luc 写到docket里面","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb1a11c953fd51540c42","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qfb18490ed6fd031132a6","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":598,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-26T02:18:49.573Z","text":"可能。我已经跟几个ai讨论过这个问题，只要luc在花钱，法院就有义务阻止这种争议资产未经853听证被消耗。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6d2e5c9b8c79e4dc69fc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb18490ed6fd031132a6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d2e5c9b8c79e4dc69fc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q3281c06a63f078219f3b","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":599,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-26T02:21:31.387Z","text":"这个东西在逻辑上就可以成立，美国本来就是案例法。对于争议资产，你政府的一个部门没收，另一个部门花钱，实际上就成了征用，这肯定是违宪行为。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3281c06a63f078219f3b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qc817c05b96dfa9dd9462","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":600,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T02:22:03.978Z","text":"你不能直接在二巡写这个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc817c05b96dfa9dd9462","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000072","next_batch_id":"batch-000074"}