{"id":"batch-000073","number":73,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-01-24T06:58:01.925Z","date_end":"2026-01-26T19:34:13.461Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 073 (Jan 24, 2026 – Jan 26, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Participants debated procedural avenues and overarching case narratives without reaching consensus. While some suspected traffic diversion and narrative manipulation, others insisted on adhering strictly to deadlines, existing filings, and docket references like 789. Core disputes centered on whether Section 853(n) petitions and CVRA actions could proceed concurrently alongside Second Circuit mandamus appeals. Further disagreements emerged over victim classification among 6,000 claimants versus 134 individuals, alongside concerns regarding representation and potential collusion with external counsel.","guide_en":[{"title":"Dispute Over Alleged Narrative Manipulation and Victim Scale","description":"Participants dispute whether narrative manipulation and traffic diversion are being deployed to control victim representation.","message_ids":["q353863dcbd5d88663adc","q1660446b1593633334fd","q9965f2e36b44e2a9de65"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q353863dcbd5d88663adc","summary_en":"joh*** contends that leadership factions use traffic diversion and narrative management to keep followers from claiming victim status under the belief they can recover funds through Section 853(n)."},{"message_id":"q1660446b1593633334fd","summary_en":"joh*** argues that circulating defense counsel's email constitutes narrative manipulation tied to legal warfare mentioned in 789, asserting that defense lawyers cannot use evidence supplied by victims."},{"message_id":"q9965f2e36b44e2a9de65","summary_en":"joh*** describes how unrepresented claimants submitting Section 853(n) petitions mistakenly relied on remission forms provided by organizers while remaining legally classified as victims."}]},{"title":"Debate on the Concurrency, Deadlines, and Sequencing of Section 853(n) and the CVRA","description":"Participants dispute whether Section 853(n) proceedings and CVRA actions can proceed simultaneously in light of lapsed deadlines.","message_ids":["q2c5fb39c3cbac94f8675","qcc025bade0614ccac5eb","q8e467f6f063fa94fe92f"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q2c5fb39c3cbac94f8675","summary_en":"ntp*** contends that Section 853 governs financial claims while the CVRA addresses procedural questions, allowing both to move forward concurrently."},{"message_id":"qcc025bade0614ccac5eb","summary_en":"roy*** recalls that the filing window for Section 853(n) petitions closed on Oct 22 of the prior year, asserting that no further submissions can be accepted."},{"message_id":"q8e467f6f063fa94fe92f","summary_en":"him*** disputes the clarity of the current schedule, questioning when Section 853(n) proceedings officially open or conclude."}]},{"title":"Concerns Over Evidence Tainting, Counsel Channels, and Undermining Motions","description":"Participants debate whether routing victim materials through defense counsel risks allegations of collusion and invalidates pending motions.","message_ids":["qab530bcd86779edbbbac","q264ede0c5da1c0e8ca92","q901907ca649c8169f416"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qab530bcd86779edbbbac","summary_en":"ntp*** questions the relationship between attorneys and the alliance, expressing concern that submitting materials to lawyers effectively delivers them to the alliance."},{"message_id":"q264ede0c5da1c0e8ca92","summary_en":"ntp*** contends that directing victims to contact defense attorneys could lead to allegations of collusion between opposing parties, thereby tainting victims and nullifying their motions."},{"message_id":"q901907ca649c8169f416","summary_en":"ntp*** observes that the cited retained counsel was not explicitly identified by name."}]},{"title":"Contested Definitions Between Third-Party Claimants, Creditors, and Recognized Victims","description":"Participants argue over the legal boundaries distinguishing third-party petitioners, bankruptcy creditors, and recognized crime victims.","message_ids":["qf9e254eff512c67d2f7a","qfb4666fb8dae4999a75c","qf70ae19b8f2ea0982d24"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qf9e254eff512c67d2f7a","summary_en":"joh*** argues that defense counsel in 789 sought to verify the authenticity of victim qualifications rather than asserting that no victims exist."},{"message_id":"qfb4666fb8dae4999a75c","summary_en":"joh*** recounts facing hostility from various factions for pursuing Section 853(n) third-party claims and CVRA appeals to the Second Circuit, alleging coordinated efforts to contain the case in the Southern District."},{"message_id":"qf70ae19b8f2ea0982d24","summary_en":"him*** contends that the core issue lies in procedural violations committed by the prosecution."}]},{"title":"Representativeness and Withdrawal Dilemmas Regarding the 6,000 Claimants Versus the 134 Individuals","description":"Participants dispute whether claims by 134 specific individuals could be withdrawn and how individual testimony compares against the larger group of 6,000.","message_ids":["q7ea368552a25a498d6a2","qa676d018841795f92107","q163e75259a1100cf813d"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q7ea368552a25a498d6a2","summary_en":"joh*** asks whether the discussion concerns the potential withdrawal of claims by the 134 purported victims."},{"message_id":"qa676d018841795f92107","summary_en":"beg*** contends that if key figures among the 134 claimants recant, defense counsel can dismantle remaining claims individually based on background disclosures in 789."},{"message_id":"q163e75259a1100cf813d","summary_en":"beg*** recounts that prior outreach to former defense counsel went unheeded and argues that the 134 claimants should cooperate with current counsel before sentencing to establish the facts."}]},{"title":"Boundaries of Representation: External Retainers, Individual Responsibility, and Conflicts of Interest","description":"Participants debate whether claimants should terminate alliance-appointed legal counsel to pursue individual self-representation.","message_ids":["qdf25bff445e60ed9a45b","q9ff7902c25c3c378b69a","q33106b581745e78ff5b9"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qdf25bff445e60ed9a45b","summary_en":"chu*** contends that claimants must act with full independence, warning that alliance-coordinated letters to lawyers and court filings under Section 853(n) could obstruct justice and taint favorable evidence."},{"message_id":"q9ff7902c25c3c378b69a","summary_en":"roy*** asks whether claimants should email attorney Gair to revoke representation and whether submitting Section 853(n) petitions at this stage remains effective."},{"message_id":"q33106b581745e78ff5b9","summary_en":"hel*** contends that submitting filings remains useful."}]},{"title":"Shift Toward Independent Self-Representation and Decentralized Filings","description":"Participants discuss moving away from collective representation toward independent individual filings guided by peer experience.","message_ids":["q63aed7c7387f16cdf2d4","q5ce46fd0923e50833232","q9228d03de33c746565b8"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q63aed7c7387f16cdf2d4","summary_en":"hel*** asks if fellow participants can assist in preparing petition materials for pro se claimants."},{"message_id":"q5ce46fd0923e50833232","summary_en":"roy*** explains that members should review previous group discussions and draft filings individually rather than participating in collective form submissions organized by the alliance."},{"message_id":"q9228d03de33c746565b8","summary_en":"roy*** emphasizes that each participant acts independently and represents only themselves."}]},{"title":"Divergent Expectations Regarding Second Circuit Appeals and Mandamus Petitions","description":"Participants dispute the feasibility and prospects of pursuing appellate review and writ of mandamus petitions before the Second Circuit.","message_ids":["q79f1cc86631e81c4af09","q691b0a21c84fd674074a","q56a1e6dc8802c581827a"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q79f1cc86631e81c4af09","summary_en":"beg*** recalls earlier discussions anticipating that the Second Circuit would deny the mandamus petitions and asks what steps follow."},{"message_id":"q691b0a21c84fd674074a","summary_en":"kir*** contends that petitioners can subsequently seek review before the Supreme Court."},{"message_id":"q56a1e6dc8802c581827a","summary_en":"kir*** argues that Judge Torres's team appears completely disoriented by ongoing developments."}]},{"title":"Scrutiny of Social Media Sources, Automated Bots, and Conflicting Procedural Logic","description":"Participants evaluate whether automated bot feeds and social media posts introduce misinformation regarding Section 853(n) and victim claims.","message_ids":["q10c481172ac34e31e3f8","qc5c97981b8f1391c72b8","qa2f705c45dbdcacd16ca"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q10c481172ac34e31e3f8","summary_en":"chu*** shares an external video link discussing legal arguments and case developments."},{"message_id":"qc5c97981b8f1391c72b8","summary_en":"chu*** shares a social media post regarding legal updates and organizational strategy."},{"message_id":"qa2f705c45dbdcacd16ca","summary_en":"him*** suggests checking automated data tracking bots to clarify disputes."}]},{"title":"Burden of Proof for Collusion Claims and Demonstrating Independent Intent","description":"Participants debate whether allegations of alliance collusion require concrete evidentiary proof to disqualify pro se petitioners.","message_ids":["q6d2d1a80e4df2a2f88d9","q1da2eec22e7888278007","qbc95d6cf055e2038679b"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q6d2d1a80e4df2a2f88d9","summary_en":"him*** questions how the court can determine which pro se petitioners were incited by co-conspirators and which were not."},{"message_id":"q1da2eec22e7888278007","summary_en":"him*** contends that some individuals likely filed petitions based on their own independent reasoning."},{"message_id":"qbc95d6cf055e2038679b","summary_en":"him*** argues that if a pro se filing targets the alliance farms directly, it clearly operates independently of the alliance."}]},{"title":"Strategic Division Over Section 853(n) Reopening, CVRA Petitions, and Restructured Motions","description":"Participants dispute whether to wait for Section 853(n) proceedings to reopen or to proceed immediately under the CVRA.","message_ids":["q8cc7eca5d7a699e94c02","q4d3a76f9c333e3747383","q4e8192f435ced28a46fe"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q8cc7eca5d7a699e94c02","summary_en":"him*** contends that Section 853(n) claim proceedings may be reopened in the future."},{"message_id":"q4d3a76f9c333e3747383","summary_en":"him*** observes that while Section 853(n) submissions are currently closed, parties could intervene if the court reopens the process later."},{"message_id":"q4e8192f435ced28a46fe","summary_en":"him*** asserts that invoking rights under the CVRA remains a viable procedural route."}]},{"title":"Disputes Over Forfeiture Recovery Routes: Section 853(n), Remission, and Target Defendants","description":"Participants argue over whether fund recovery should target alliance leadership or proceed via remission and Section 853(n).","message_ids":["q1fb3fbeb76bc28ccc416","qdd94bec22925547b7851","q8a9a28078c6d9e96ed19"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q1fb3fbeb76bc28ccc416","summary_en":"joh*** contends that investors seeking recovery should pursue alliance farms for alleged misappropriation and file third-party Section 853(n) claims rather than suing criminal defendants directly."},{"message_id":"qdd94bec22925547b7851","summary_en":"kir*** argues that those claimants should pursue government remission instead."},{"message_id":"q8a9a28078c6d9e96ed19","summary_en":"kir*** describes being uncertain about the specific procedures involved."}]}],"summary":"讨论围绕该案的程序与叙事两条线同时展开，且没有形成稳定共识。整体争辩从“谁在定义受害者”转向“程序可否成立、哪条路径可执行”。部分成员认为存在“引流/维稳”与舆论操控倾向，另一些人则强调以现有文件、时效与规则为准，反对先验定性。核心分歧集中在853N与CVRA、以及后续二巡/强制令的可行性：有观点相信并用与逐步推进，有观点坚持成功概率低。受害人身份在6000人、134人、普通债权人与个别投资者之间长期摇摆，导致“钱是否能回、谁可主张”与“谁可代诉”难闭环。另有显著分歧在外部律师和联盟角色，既有人担忧利益冲突与共谋化风险，也有人要求保留独立自诉和留存程序瑕疵。部分讨论进一步转向证据链与披露时序，出现更务实的操作思路：控制提交节奏、聚焦可反驳材料、避免过早扩散叙事。","guide":[{"title":"争议焦点之一：是否存在“引流/维稳”叙事分裂，反复把规模问题与真实动机对立起来","message_ids":["q353863dcbd5d88663adc","q1660446b1593633334fd","q9965f2e36b44e2a9de65"]},{"title":"853N与CVRA可否并行、时效与程序顺序是否失效，成讨论的结构化主线","message_ids":["q2c5fb39c3cbac94f8675","qcc025bade0614ccac5eb","q8e467f6f063fa94fe92f"]},{"title":"受害材料与律师通道是否会被“共谋化”或降低动议效力，属于持续的证据可信性争论","message_ids":["qab530bcd86779edbbbac","q264ede0c5da1c0e8ca92","q901907ca649c8169f416"]},{"title":"“谁是受害者”定义反复拉扯：第三方自诉、债权人角色与认定边界未统一","message_ids":["qf9e254eff512c67d2f7a","qfb4666fb8dae4999a75c","qf70ae19b8f2ea0982d24"]},{"title":"“6000人/134人”是否可控撤案及代表性问题：群体规模与核心个体权重对立","message_ids":["q7ea368552a25a498d6a2","qa676d018841795f92107","q163e75259a1100cf813d"]},{"title":"律师与联盟介入边界：是否外请代理、是否应回到自己负责，亦牵涉利益冲突疑虑","message_ids":["qdf25bff445e60ed9a45b","q9ff7902c25c3c378b69a","q33106b581745e78ff5b9"]},{"title":"关键转折：从“是否代填”转向“每人独立自诉+群内经验落地”，主张程序操作更分散","message_ids":["q63aed7c7387f16cdf2d4","q5ce46fd0923e50833232","q9228d03de33c746565b8"]},{"title":"二巡、二审及强制令路径预期分化：有人看好推进，更多人强调成功率低与取向保守","message_ids":["q79f1cc86631e81c4af09","q691b0a21c84fd674074a","q56a1e6dc8802c581827a"]},{"title":"信息源与传播方式被质疑，机器人与社媒线索是否误导、是否混淆853n与受害者逻辑","message_ids":["q10c481172ac34e31e3f8","qc5c97981b8f1391c72b8","qa2f705c45dbdcacd16ca"]},{"title":"举证责任转向：主张共谋或污染须有证据，否则强调可反驳，程序与实体都需支撑","message_ids":["q6d2d1a80e4df2a2f88d9","q1da2eec22e7888278007","qbc95d6cf055e2038679b"]},{"title":"策略分叉在于853N是否终止或重开：是否改走CVRA、先提notice还是重组动议","message_ids":["q8cc7eca5d7a699e94c02","q4d3a76f9c333e3747383","q4e8192f435ced28a46fe"]},{"title":"财产与没收路线争议：853I/853N、remission、追回资金是否并行推进仍不一致","message_ids":["q1fb3fbeb76bc28ccc416","qdd94bec22925547b7851","q8a9a28078c6d9e96ed19"]}],"closed":true,"is_finalized":true,"updated_at":"2026-09-06T16:41:59.543Z","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_batch","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073/pages/3","base_batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000073?page=3","page":3,"page_size":200,"total_pages":5,"has_more":true,"next_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000073?page=4","prev_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000073?page=2","messages":[{"id":"qa7da4b8490a0a0f6109c","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":401,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-25T20:08:42.972Z","text":"这就是739 742 打瑞恩 被瑞恩反打的逻辑","edited":false,"reply_to":"qba456c01b4ba0a1c593c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7da4b8490a0a0f6109c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba456c01b4ba0a1c593c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q1a6153df56517d03a794","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":402,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-25T20:31:12.560Z","text":"现在是眼看着拦不住了，总原则就改成上去也不能当受害者，当受害者就是坑七哥","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a6153df56517d03a794","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q167a851d8e77a550624b","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":403,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-01-25T20:46:27.006Z","text":"就是用分钱做诱饵，把案子困在南区，南区是他们说了算，阻挡去上诉法院翻案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q167a851d8e77a550624b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q77dc6802c70978b7c308","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":404,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-01-25T20:47:17.457Z","text":"明白了，只要翻案，所谓的受害者就自然解除了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77dc6802c70978b7c308","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qd6cef28ef5ed020f13db","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":405,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-25T20:47:52.165Z","text":"那是自然的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q77dc6802c70978b7c308","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6cef28ef5ed020f13db","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77dc6802c70978b7c308","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q84673c8eb56a996772fe","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":406,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-25T20:51:23.012Z","text":"文智那个时候挺夏凄东？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd8dc8b9362f77a993775","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84673c8eb56a996772fe","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8dc8b9362f77a993775","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q6a5c398eda398006dcce","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":407,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-25T21:13:57.988Z","text":"我建议大家 南区每走一步 大家都要把它们的违规记录下来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a5c398eda398006dcce","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q773eee3ca9f018095733","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":408,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-25T21:14:04.001Z","text":"发到南区的自诉邮箱里面","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q773eee3ca9f018095733","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q6b56dca7a74232278e28","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":409,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-25T21:14:11.017Z","text":"record 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如果不想当受害人，可以参考这个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5d27af2d389845e4825","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q3ce682f8de5a70068410","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":464,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-01-25T22:24:25.785Z","text":"https://x.com/johnwood888/status/2015527560906690897?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ce682f8de5a70068410","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q0fcef573bec47f2a4404","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":465,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-25T22:25:05.137Z","text":"现在都不说是不是电话了，就直接七哥说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0fcef573bec47f2a4404","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q7be1e8238c5d961952b7","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":466,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-01-25T22:25:07.627Z","text":"都别忙了，郭先生宣布他要出来了，至于怎么出来，也许可以飞出来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7be1e8238c5d961952b7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q8b8a7e804db1fb74053a","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":467,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-25T22:25:11.007Z","text":"七哥梦里说的啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b8a7e804db1fb74053a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q49f302d269cd4c2b1b30","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":468,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-01-25T22:26:02.995Z","text":"在MDC修行隐居三年，成仙了，这群弱智","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q49f302d269cd4c2b1b30","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q7627997364e19a8fd11b","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":469,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-25T22:45:23.282Z","text":"ava说： 法官很聪明","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7627997364e19a8fd11b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q42cda0a6a536ee3b85c5","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":470,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-01-25T22:47:29.771Z","text":"美国的一个Colorado的选举官员因为揭露大选舞弊在蓝州被定罪关押，川普多次呼吁让她出来，也赦免了， 但是州政府就是不放她出来。70多岁了。Tina Peters - 儿子是gold 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是几号文件？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9585c8a80d410a619483","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q96c5007501e6513f00a1","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":554,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-25T23:53:43.727Z","text":"检方511","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9585c8a80d410a619483","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q96c5007501e6513f00a1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9585c8a80d410a619483","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q77ffe36cbc59b68f505f","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":555,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-01-25T23:55:21.449Z","text":"511是检方引用匿名信","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77ffe36cbc59b68f505f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q3ee3aa3ed73ead6ba2f3","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":556,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-01-25T23:56:14.329Z","text":"根据起诉书就能得出不是共谋犯就是受害者的推测","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ee3aa3ed73ead6ba2f3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q74987a8192c36a0cdcd6","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":557,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-25T23:56:48.453Z","text":"Gavenman代理的100人和于建民一个律师，意思就是他们不是受害者，他们和于建民站在一起","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74987a8192c36a0cdcd6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q9d90380950803f911872","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":558,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-25T23:57:02.496Z","text":"是不是这个意思","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d90380950803f911872","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q5c448fd1977398330a66","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":559,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-25T23:57:17.477Z","text":"他们和被告站在一起","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c448fd1977398330a66","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q7d9814aaa224e466e33a","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":560,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-25T23:57:50.741Z","text":"Gavenman 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但可以作为翻案依据之一","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbdef547b9cf3c04341df","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qacc02a98148ffbb4c2ab","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbdef547b9cf3c04341df","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q4c35df98fd3e795c7796","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":573,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T00:20:43.044Z","text":"因为你体现的是一个结构","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c35df98fd3e795c7796","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qa6912f5d0cf066e68c35","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":574,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T00:20:47.531Z","text":"结构性身份混乱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6912f5d0cf066e68c35","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q8def9d8d8584ec4ae1c9","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":575,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T00:21:19.157Z","text":"himam的意思 就是灭爆小组的狸猫 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him***］ 如果你硬要猜他们得到什么消息 我觉得可能是cipa","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe06430ffb8b62dd79047","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q0b84ed5e485a1a9eb791","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":580,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T01:45:59.911Z","text":"法官可能会同意","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b84ed5e485a1a9eb791","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qf0ceb368d6118564eaed","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":581,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T01:48:03.500Z","text":"cipa同意 整个案件叙事就变了 不是诈骗案了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0ceb368d6118564eaed","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q93c4f26ba559071a192f","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":582,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T01:48:37.382Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 如果是这个理由 这也解释了为什么联盟要用共谋犯去污染律师","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93c4f26ba559071a192f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qdbf59763bb9d5a4b17da","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":583,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T01:48:44.688Z","text":"［用户 him***］","edited":true,"reply_to":"q93c4f26ba559071a192f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbf59763bb9d5a4b17da","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93c4f26ba559071a192f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qab26d77f86328ebfc3df","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":584,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T02:04:23.929Z","text":"有个问题 目前法官 检方 能不能联系青联盟？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc4bc122574f5d133eb0e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab26d77f86328ebfc3df","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4bc122574f5d133eb0e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q15bec24449e41e1a29c0","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":585,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-26T02:05:50.687Z","text":"只要有一个g系列投资者被认定为853n，那就是所有的g系列投资者都是，那就意味者所有g系列财产不属于被告所有，这就直接导致整个案件叙事崩塌，因为整个案件就是建立在政府受托人luc的非法长期“临时扣押”形成了被告转移了g系列资产的法律事实，然后就会直接翻案，所以不可能案件被维持，然后g系列投资者被认定为853n，这就是强制让luc来853n听证南区不可能批准，只能在二巡申请强制南区这么做才可能有luc被强制来853n听证的发生。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15bec24449e41e1a29c0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q0d202e2790b9262b800c","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":586,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T02:09:04.671Z","text":"所以这个案子唯一能自洽的结果就是所有人都走remission","edited":false,"reply_to":"q15bec24449e41e1a29c0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d202e2790b9262b800c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15bec24449e41e1a29c0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q32b58640317e595675af","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":587,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T02:09:09.342Z","text":"意思就是 G系列投资者 是一个整体 一个团体\n目前青 委员会 是被法庭法理认可的代表\n本当是把投资者做成853n 但引导成了853i 受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":"q15bec24449e41e1a29c0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32b58640317e595675af","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15bec24449e41e1a29c0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q6cf45ce9ec7d0e756f65","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":588,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T02:12:09.014Z","text":"结果搞成了853 i","edited":false,"reply_to":"q32b58640317e595675af","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6cf45ce9ec7d0e756f65","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32b58640317e595675af","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q00eacd25cb04cbdb3111","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":589,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T02:12:18.037Z","text":"对 [删节：成员身份] 说的就是这个意思","edited":true,"reply_to":"q6cf45ce9ec7d0e756f65","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00eacd25cb04cbdb3111","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6cf45ce9ec7d0e756f65","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q93521d1b9d53d99da822","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":590,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-26T02:12:26.161Z","text":"都是同样的参与农场借贷,gclub,喜交易所，只要一个投资者的财产所有权被承认，那其他人也得被承认，然后被告转移了财产就不成立。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q32b58640317e595675af","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93521d1b9d53d99da822","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32b58640317e595675af","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qcf2e68092a1eabac9212","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":591,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T02:13:26.961Z","text":"👆 再仔细看这三张图 \n他说的“受害者”委员会 意思是现在的投资者都是“受害者”角色\n但“投资者团体”的真正意图 是去做853n 证明是投资者的钱 被做污点证人的“受害者”挪用 而不是郭转移","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe6b31de87373e70073d7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf2e68092a1eabac9212","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe6b31de87373e70073d7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qa7c0f567f9dcfc07b89f","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":592,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-26T02:15:59.732Z","text":"只要有一个人到二巡申请强制南区传唤luc开853听证，只要立案，就算被驳回。南区还是绕过853n听证量刑，然后上诉翻案就会更快。不管是三方上诉和被告上诉，都会更快让上级法院面对现实。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0d202e2790b9262b800c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7c0f567f9dcfc07b89f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d202e2790b9262b800c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qdca11c2caf3931633e4d","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":593,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T02:16:20.496Z","text":"二巡没有这个权限","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa7c0f567f9dcfc07b89f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdca11c2caf3931633e4d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7c0f567f9dcfc07b89f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qf8ce191f20172e82e157","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":594,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-26T02:17:08.041Z","text":"二巡可以强制南区开听证，除非luc把财产交给南区检方。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdca11c2caf3931633e4d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8ce191f20172e82e157","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdca11c2caf3931633e4d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q6d2e5c9b8c79e4dc69fc","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":595,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T02:17:19.988Z","text":"这个不可能的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf8ce191f20172e82e157","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d2e5c9b8c79e4dc69fc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8ce191f20172e82e157","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qda112464d2664cac2f95","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":596,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T02:17:51.155Z","text":"二巡能做的非常有限","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda112464d2664cac2f95","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qfb1a11c953fd51540c42","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":597,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T02:18:29.468Z","text":"你只能做一件事 就是把luc拒绝听证 南区拒绝传唤luc 写到docket里面","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb1a11c953fd51540c42","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qfb18490ed6fd031132a6","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":598,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-26T02:18:49.573Z","text":"可能。我已经跟几个ai讨论过这个问题，只要luc在花钱，法院就有义务阻止这种争议资产未经853听证被消耗。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6d2e5c9b8c79e4dc69fc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb18490ed6fd031132a6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d2e5c9b8c79e4dc69fc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q3281c06a63f078219f3b","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":599,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-26T02:21:31.387Z","text":"这个东西在逻辑上就可以成立，美国本来就是案例法。对于争议资产，你政府的一个部门没收，另一个部门花钱，实际上就成了征用，这肯定是违宪行为。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3281c06a63f078219f3b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qc817c05b96dfa9dd9462","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":600,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T02:22:03.978Z","text":"你不能直接在二巡写这个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc817c05b96dfa9dd9462","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000072","next_batch_id":"batch-000074"}