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都是量刑后再说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc464e4a0c0f7bfb029dc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q28e47f7dc5a8829316e8","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":605,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T02:25:26.826Z","text":"luc这个也一样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q28e47f7dc5a8829316e8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q71fca0eebd4d2f6e0c62","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":606,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-26T02:26:13.898Z","text":"指导南区怎么开，不可能，南区不履行监督责任，在明知争议资产被挥霍的情况下长期拖延不开听证，就是可以强制它开，只能说让南区强制传唤luc可能不会批准，但开听证理论上可以被批准，就像二巡说南区应该合理时间内处理大量的第三方文件。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3cf23fee23db0eb50ab4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71fca0eebd4d2f6e0c62","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3cf23fee23db0eb50ab4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qf40132b3021b537dc50f","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":607,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T02:26:18.791Z","text":"法官 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需要在强制令方面做足功夫","edited":false,"reply_to":"q71fca0eebd4d2f6e0c62","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc3a20d7d28bbdf3a4f43","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71fca0eebd4d2f6e0c62","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qe980e14c7cc9feb290c4","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":609,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T02:27:24.447Z","text":"你的强制令要像手术刀一样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe980e14c7cc9feb290c4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qa5117802892571fa0676","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":610,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T02:27:27.431Z","text":"才能达成","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5117802892571fa0676","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q8e278de77d08c3bf88e6","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":611,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-26T02:27:27.912Z","text":"这个不一样的原因是资产正在被耗散，它二巡拒绝，二巡也通过拒绝履行司法责任放任了资产耗散。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q28e47f7dc5a8829316e8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e278de77d08c3bf88e6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q28e47f7dc5a8829316e8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q7ca4320ae4d37afdeb86","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":612,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T02:27:36.850Z","text":"你可以试试","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ca4320ae4d37afdeb86","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qcb4b4ac1ce68737be107","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":613,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-26T02:29:44.710Z","text":"我们说的是理论上可行。但实际上，二巡给的回复还是会给南区机会，比如，考虑到争议资产正在被耗散，南区应当合理安排案件程序，尽快召开听证。二巡不可能完全驳回。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb4b4ac1ce68737be107","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qf4e7f1d92c7b25e64309","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":614,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T02:30:44.048Z","text":"实际上不可能批准","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcb4b4ac1ce68737be107","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4e7f1d92c7b25e64309","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb4b4ac1ce68737be107","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q87db1d1a7b2c06729bda","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":615,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T02:30:49.498Z","text":"但你的强制令可能可以立案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87db1d1a7b2c06729bda","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qd6a6beeba7e1b3bde38d","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":616,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-26T02:31:18.648Z","text":"只要拿到这个，再向南区发难，尽快召开听证，强制传唤luc,853n有证据开示权，如果南区拒绝传唤，就留下了滥用裁量的记录。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6a6beeba7e1b3bde38d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q487798dd24edcede5c73","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":617,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T02:33:57.139Z","text":"二巡不会下命令","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd6a6beeba7e1b3bde38d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q487798dd24edcede5c73","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6a6beeba7e1b3bde38d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q7b6aec78fcf936a9c1d6","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":618,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T02:34:11.733Z","text":"顶多是一句让南区自己处理","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b6aec78fcf936a9c1d6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qfc43d5d7c56e9a8bf054","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":619,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-26T02:34:19.681Z","text":"二巡当然可以可以完全不批准，但它没有全身而退，留下了不良记录。就像南区就是压制受害者一样。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf4e7f1d92c7b25e64309","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeit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他非常明白用犯罪受害者权利法案介入!","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00746c4f6ab289a79736","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q5d9b29277e2c1211adce","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":696,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-01-26T04:06:03.125Z","text":"除了这些，还有什么？帮郭文贵说几句，还是一堆废话，还是砸小郭子一下啊？？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d9b29277e2c1211adce","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q5692ac08107d8e8ebfe7","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":697,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T04:11:33.333Z","text":"郭716被定罪 联盟农场被定共谋 134人受害者 6000人默认remission（法官认定受害者）这是之前的叙事逻辑\n这个时候6000人里 就可以顺势引用犯罪者条例上庭 指出钱是我投资者的 去搅局\n朱贝贝自诉 就是学他的 告盖尔违规代理她 把窗户纸捅一个洞","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5692ac08107d8e8ebfe7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q42ed22c97503b20479ba","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":698,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T04:16:24.321Z","text":"螺丝哥你 不属于这6000的 一开始可以直接用853n上 但是被南区卡 被青 羊帮天天骂\n这就把他们害怕的地方 又暴露了（青 嘴上喊着要去853n claim 实际表格就是骗remission）\n没有螺丝哥的853n \n他们的叙事闭环就成了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42ed22c97503b20479ba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q1b80c3361aeec4193b36","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":699,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-01-26T04:16:46.910Z","text":"问题是人家那几千人不去啊！人家只信联盟","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b80c3361aeec4193b36","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q973e278b5cbfdda53614","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":700,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T04:17:14.032Z","text":"盖尔是律师","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q973e278b5cbfdda53614","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qd705ae4ab01a0c1984f9","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":701,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T04:17:17.672Z","text":"是律师就不可能翻案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd705ae4ab01a0c1984f9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q355c8b85e16f0fb9cc9e","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":702,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T04:17:24.104Z","text":"包括老郭律师","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q355c8b85e16f0fb9cc9e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q7169d4f182ed0b3ee045","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":703,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T04:17:32.710Z","text":"最多也就量刑后","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7169d4f182ed0b3ee045","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qbc2ecc3a02c4de4f55e0","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":704,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T04:18:21.371Z","text":"就螺丝哥一个人 喊着翻案","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7169d4f182ed0b3ee045","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc2ecc3a02c4de4f55e0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7169d4f182ed0b3ee045","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qb44f7d4da2ba6feb2154","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":705,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T04:19:50.898Z","text":"安小东 不是鸟 青 都不相信吗 \n还不是被青的假853n claim表 骗成了remission","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe98c32192a76e15e6dc3","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb44f7d4da2ba6feb2154","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qd0f0ed291540a018457d","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":706,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-01-26T04:21:22.049Z","text":"那你让安晓东去法庭告诉法官，他去不去啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd0f0ed291540a018457d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q6d202e72efc12d1b025d","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":707,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T04:30:12.678Z","text":"青们意思就是 \n这6000既不要做853n成为对立面\n也不要当受害者 和它们抢钱\n老老实实当853i等着捡他们吃剩下的骨头渣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d202e72efc12d1b025d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qffe62cb03cf3756580bb","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":708,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-26T04:31:05.228Z","text":"受害者可以用MVRA请求强制赔偿","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qffe62cb03cf3756580bb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qed05f0e4d8a4a8fd1097","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":709,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T04:31:43.481Z","text":"对的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qffe62cb03cf3756580bb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed05f0e4d8a4a8fd1097","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qffe62cb03cf3756580bb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q519fa65aaca6c6a076a1","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":710,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T04:36:22.700Z","text":"所以青 法庭 都避开CVRA MVRA\n只谈853 把第三方人往这里赶\n并且提前污染了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qffe62cb03cf3756580bb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q519fa65aaca6c6a076a1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qffe62cb03cf3756580bb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q59d52cb7a1249ed9f068","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":711,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-26T04:43:34.040Z","text":"二、途径一——主张《消费者权益保护法》(CVRA)/《机动车辆法》(MVRA)权利\n\n仅针对非郭文贵参与的《反勒索及腐败组织法》(RICO)参与者\n\n1. 政府的补充没收申请文件指出，资金从G系列生态系统转移到了余建民及其配偶控制的金融账户中。余建民被指控参与了被控的RICO犯罪活动。\n\n2. 申请人声称，这些资金转移以及上述个人和实体的行为造成了直接且近因的经济损失，而与被告郭文贵的任何行为无关。\n\n3. 因此，申请人仅针对非郭文贵参与的RICO参与者主张《消费者权益保护法》(CVRA)和《机动车辆法》(MVRA)权利，并请求将与这些资金相关的任何赔偿决定专门针对这些行为人。\n\n4. 申请人未对被告郭文贵提出任何赔偿请求，并明确放弃此类请求。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59d52cb7a1249ed9f068","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qa53be9845690f154467c","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":712,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-26T04:44:31.505Z","text":"如果补充没收令被批准，就用这种方式去主张赔偿，且不会导致误伤。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa53be9845690f154467c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q4f1fcfaf71b3e7b7404c","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":713,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-01-26T04:45:12.924Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":"q59d52cb7a1249ed9f068","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f1fcfaf71b3e7b7404c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59d52cb7a1249ed9f068","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q3b84143255c21d4b6c71","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":714,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-26T04:45:34.998Z","text":"如果不去说，更没用。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4f1fcfaf71b3e7b7404c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b84143255c21d4b6c71","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f1fcfaf71b3e7b7404c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qc702e34589e597216973","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":715,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-26T04:52:12.909Z","text":"你好像对别人去要钱深恶痛绝，群里人们的诉求是不一样的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaeb37f1bcc8817eafa8e","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc702e34589e597216973","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qe06a28ebd3c534d6d565","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":716,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T04:54:03.615Z","text":"螺丝哥要的是 公平 公平 还[屏蔽词]是 公平","edited":true,"reply_to":"qc702e34589e597216973","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe06a28ebd3c534d6d565","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc702e34589e597216973","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q9243cfe1910e7d734eef","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":717,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T04:57:19.084Z","text":"盯着钱是没用的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9243cfe1910e7d734eef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q64033a6407db49efa0bb","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":718,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T04:57:24.494Z","text":"钱肯定是全都被抢走","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64033a6407db49efa0bb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qcdd09f2968cd911e69b1","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":719,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T04:57:35.731Z","text":"唯一的可能就是翻案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcdd09f2968cd911e69b1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q8c55d00b2c924477b82b","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":720,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T04:57:59.676Z","text":"瑞恩要的是名垂青史","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaeb37f1bcc8817eafa8e","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c55d00b2c924477b82b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qb0072394fa8562b7c00d","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":721,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-26T04:59:19.679Z","text":"要到钱本来就必须要翻案。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0072394fa8562b7c00d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q1fb3fbeb76bc28ccc416","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":722,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T05:07:05.248Z","text":"倾风乐 三个人 说了只要钱\n作为投资者 去告郭 他们是不是告错人了🤣 \n应该告 联盟农场 挪用他们的钱\n在郭案子里 他们应该做853n第三方索赔 而不是受害者（他们在破产案里 没有登记债权人吧？）","edited":false,"reply_to":"q64033a6407db49efa0bb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1fb3fbeb76bc28ccc416","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64033a6407db49efa0bb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qdd94bec22925547b7851","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":723,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T05:14:03.806Z","text":"他们应该去的是政府remission","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1fb3fbeb76bc28ccc416","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd94bec22925547b7851","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1fb3fbeb76bc28ccc416","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qc4a64df6eb2aed28e7a4","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":724,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T05:15:20.585Z","text":"不对吧 他们也是投资人","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdd94bec22925547b7851","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4a64df6eb2aed28e7a4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd94bec22925547b7851","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q8b9f6bf91882f081ff76","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":725,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T05:15:42.448Z","text":"他们肯定去remission","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc4a64df6eb2aed28e7a4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b9f6bf91882f081ff76","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4a64df6eb2aed28e7a4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q02c6da4bd8631991f588","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":726,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T05:17:31.174Z","text":"因为他们是以 受害者 进来的 普通债权人 对吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8b9f6bf91882f081ff76","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02c6da4bd8631991f588","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b9f6bf91882f081ff76","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q8a9a28078c6d9e96ed19","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":727,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T05:19:27.535Z","text":"我不太清楚","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a9a28078c6d9e96ed19","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q7399f4c92fe45de6fbea","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":728,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T05:19:34.670Z","text":"反正他们不可能是上法庭要钱的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7399f4c92fe45de6fbea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q5daed65551ddf8fac426","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":729,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-26T05:21:10.496Z","text":"它们不会853n被拒就去上诉，被拒就会去找政府和luc恩赐，然后一分都得不到。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q02c6da4bd8631991f588","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5daed65551ddf8fac426","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02c6da4bd8631991f588","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q8ff513dda20aca6dabee","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":730,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-26T05:24:44.044Z","text":"要到钱，必须把检方和luc干赢，不然就一分都得不到。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ff513dda20aca6dabee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qc211ac75bfd93a7ac070","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":731,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T05:27:51.909Z","text":"这案子 原来的剧本设定是\n钱是郭的 郭被判 农场共谋污点证人李娅老班长 免起诉（不退钱）\n钱 优先给破产案登记的债权人 PAG 拱🐷 美国小李等\n青 AVA等受害人 以及投资者群体  （853i) 包括倾风乐（CVRA）最后都是remission","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc211ac75bfd93a7ac070","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qe531a81ee6738eb1845a","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":732,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T05:31:39.864Z","text":"现在是 瑞恩： 我打爆你们所有人 程序不修正 谁都别想拿钱 😄","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc211ac75bfd93a7ac070","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe531a81ee6738eb1845a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc211ac75bfd93a7ac070","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q63d8d8c02d5a3c9ac115","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":733,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T05:32:04.641Z","text":"Claim 853n的出现 成了搅局的\n不认为钱是郭的 而是投资者群体的 而且有投资证据\n法庭一旦认这个853n 那么上面的闭环 就垮了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63d8d8c02d5a3c9ac115","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qa68292823c51b080ccc1","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":734,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T05:34:09.609Z","text":"853好像门槛非常高？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa68292823c51b080ccc1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q2ebf1b93b93e068e8d1d","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":735,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T05:37:26.459Z","text":"钱 是投资者的 不是郭的\n那6000 853i摇摆人 都成了853n\n那么👇 \n挪用钱的共谋农场主 做伪证指认郭\n青 AVA 做伪证当受害人\nLuc那登记的债权人 拱🐷 小李 也要来作证 钱是汇给郭了吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q63d8d8c02d5a3c9ac115","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ebf1b93b93e068e8d1d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63d8d8c02d5a3c9ac115","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qef54b46f13973b2c41b4","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":736,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-26T05:38:44.806Z","text":"在毒品洗钱案里，门槛高，在诈骗案里，只要财产没转移，拿出投资证明即可。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa68292823c51b080ccc1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef54b46f13973b2c41b4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa68292823c51b080ccc1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q7ba6232d244163e363b1","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":737,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T05:40:54.081Z","text":"HID不就是证明 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我是受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b1caf6bba4220e28175","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q5c6d8d1ea182d55a0768","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":739,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T05:46:41.751Z","text":"所以如果大家都去853n 就翻案了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c6d8d1ea182d55a0768","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qe4e3578583532f058890","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":740,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T05:48:50.546Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe4e3578583532f058890","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qac015eac125daa539c59","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":741,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T05:49:18.218Z","text":"再听这个第二个视频 青说的\nClaim 不去claim政府就没收","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qac015eac125daa539c59","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q437ebfae89d27919a220","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":742,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-26T05:51:34.299Z","text":"人家luc说那是被告转移的它的债权人的钱，南区检方说，被告已经转移了财产，那已经是被告的犯罪所得，你们就是被骗了。然后大家都闹起来看法院怎么判这个事情。法官拖不下去可能就会枉法，就说钱应该由政府来分，政府就说钱应该给luc。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5c6d8d1ea182d55a0768","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q437ebfae89d27919a220","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c6d8d1ea182d55a0768","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q1429a05073b238387e5e","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":743,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T05:53:33.364Z","text":"完美闭环\n结果被螺丝哥一个claim 853n 给捅破了窗户纸","edited":false,"reply_to":"q437ebfae89d27919a220","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1429a05073b238387e5e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q437ebfae89d27919a220","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q20228ff5b8f9a6e0c7ed","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":744,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T05:55:45.279Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20228ff5b8f9a6e0c7ed","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q86f7b91917aac2baad6b","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":745,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T05:56:24.324Z","text":"👆 还是这个填表 在青发布视频后 联盟推的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86f7b91917aac2baad6b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q12f019d0129fd22c0174","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":746,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T05:59:05.413Z","text":"口口声声讲的是claim \n\n农场发布的消息 和claim没一点关系\n这个时候郭还没量刑 还没开始没收 青们就只给了petition的表（帮你们选择 接受政府没收）👇","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12f019d0129fd22c0174","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qc28e3f53e63ec390cb96","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":747,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T06:02:56.722Z","text":"还怕那6000人较真 给的示范表 petition for remission 里面还把内容 篡改成853n","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc28e3f53e63ec390cb96","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q8618def3c2a167054b74","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":748,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T06:06:02.676Z","text":"853i 已经不可能成为853n了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8618def3c2a167054b74","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qd83802c233cb88a85c69","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":749,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T06:06:04.625Z","text":"托雷斯说的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd83802c233cb88a85c69","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qa0f78635eb296177587a","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":750,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T06:06:51.307Z","text":"连填写指南里 也是篡改\n任何以为是申请claim的 其实都是petition 853i","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0f78635eb296177587a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qf116ae706dc118516b2a","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":751,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T06:10:02.711Z","text":"很可能 在螺丝哥以前 就没有一个试图用853n去反对没收的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf116ae706dc118516b2a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q9dd7bf4891e1580bf3a8","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":752,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-01-26T06:13:48.115Z","text":"就没有任何人说过，去法庭上打那些人!","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf116ae706dc118516b2a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9dd7bf4891e1580bf3a8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf116ae706dc118516b2a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qef13cbdf9e79442d13b5","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":753,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T06:14:24.804Z","text":"螺丝哥天神下凡","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef13cbdf9e79442d13b5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qdbe52322cad3bfd7fbbf","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":754,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T06:15:27.850Z","text":"第一个反对没收的是瑞恩 瑞恩要求用rule60d打废整个没收令 取消检方和luc的拿钱资格","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf116ae706dc118516b2a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbe52322cad3bfd7fbbf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf116ae706dc118516b2a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qd45d2e77b833d696f819","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":755,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T06:15:43.808Z","text":"司法欺诈 没人能没收拿钱 😄","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd45d2e77b833d696f819","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qec96d28e1add8f587119","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":756,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T06:17:06.632Z","text":"倾风乐不傻 他们是以郭受害者 上去的 当然用petition \n既然如此 不认是郭的受害者 肯定应该用claim","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec96d28e1add8f587119","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qa707596b040fe03732f4","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":757,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T06:17:26.051Z","text":"remission就是检方","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa707596b040fe03732f4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qf72d952c5218f8e0c0cf","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":758,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T06:21:06.536Z","text":"几套班子 分工很明确的\n\n青 AVA 当了受害者 只能走remission（他们是被用来 拉6000投资者 认可政府没收 默认不是资产拥有者 目的不是要分钱的大头）\n鸟 老班长 李娅 污点证人 是指认这些钱 是郭的 帮郭洗钱 可以定罪（也不用退贪的钱）\n登记的债权人 PAG 美国小李 这些人是 最后优先分钱 拿大头","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf72d952c5218f8e0c0cf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q65a2bce1b1c1524f8a42","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":759,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T06:39:32.848Z","text":"🐷贝贝说的是对的 最后得利的还是PAG","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65a2bce1b1c1524f8a42","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qbf86d7f028d6e2fb1ab4","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":760,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-26T06:55:31.762Z","text":"那个群里都在抢空投诈骗币呢，没他妈救了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5690ad07753c31e2f813","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf86d7f028d6e2fb1ab4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5690ad07753c31e2f813","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qd1b249bc7fbe0a3305da","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":761,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-01-26T06:55:51.273Z","text":"完美并且歹毒的计划。只是，让小孩子逻辑发现了漏洞。演戏过头了！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1b249bc7fbe0a3305da","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qaf4be47e76f2c03add43","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":762,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-01-26T07:00:13.072Z","text":"刚给南区发出了我的第八个自诉。这次是针对1月20日的状态会议的庭审记录表述自己在四个方面的保留意见。\n这四条是：\n1. 非853n 不上传；\n2. MVRA 权力被剥去，未对检方在785文件关于MVRA的动议未作出回应；\n3. CVRA 被降级为投诉；\n4. 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台下看戏的才是大佬 打赏多少 看心情\n台面上的 都有尾巴被人拿捏 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哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q334fc7a220eb4a8308fe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qd7d7b383c7662e19bf8d","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":776,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T07:21:20.022Z","text":"老江和小屁酱 不是东西 看着风声不对 \n怕是想第三梯队上了\n骂青不骂Qmay 推电话是真 还要建问天塔","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd7d7b383c7662e19bf8d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q275032b78aa704a63da8","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":777,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T07:22:14.110Z","text":"老江开始战队螺丝哥了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd7d7b383c7662e19bf8d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q275032b78aa704a63da8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd7d7b383c7662e19bf8d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qf0cf879e876fd64c4a37","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":778,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-26T07:23:42.233Z","text":"A先生也不傻 为了螺丝哥 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你这个看过没哈哈哈","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c7738780f7e9ed402f0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q1bf1cee5a4a271698608","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":786,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-26T08:07:40.752Z","text":"这个算不算新证据，可以提交南区还是二巡","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3608fa6f031ebbb25b96","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1bf1cee5a4a271698608","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3608fa6f031ebbb25b96","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q60aa5a647a58cd6be2a3","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":787,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T08:08:00.107Z","text":"不提交南区 只提交二巡","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1bf1cee5a4a271698608","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60aa5a647a58cd6be2a3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1bf1cee5a4a271698608","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qb6180bbe37c523244952","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":788,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T08:08:18.502Z","text":"你可以写一篇联盟农场的论文","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1bf1cee5a4a271698608","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb6180bbe37c523244952","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1bf1cee5a4a271698608","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q5f85c49b602187618384","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":789,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T08:08:34.349Z","text":"上传到二巡文档","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f85c49b602187618384","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qf268a40dc93091ee0224","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":790,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-26T08:08:59.052Z","text":"再整一份报告出来？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb6180bbe37c523244952","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf268a40dc93091ee0224","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb6180bbe37c523244952","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qcafa5f49a6eeb3c9b2a0","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":791,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T08:09:16.305Z","text":"就是关于联盟农场的全面报告","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf268a40dc93091ee0224","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcafa5f49a6eeb3c9b2a0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf268a40dc93091ee0224","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q7346cebf1955b6aad125","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":792,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-26T08:10:28.692Z","text":"给二巡发notice?","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7346cebf1955b6aad125","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q53a53833fa50560d4d63","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":793,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T08:10:49.921Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53a53833fa50560d4d63","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q46c21d0096f90497001e","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":794,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-01-26T08:14:43.756Z","text":"没有看过。说了什么，提炼一下","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3c7738780f7e9ed402f0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46c21d0096f90497001e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c7738780f7e9ed402f0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q3e23edbca67d9f925b62","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":795,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-26T08:14:57.424Z","text":"https://x.com/kk26400689/status/1944945873454022907?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e23edbca67d9f925b62","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"q20b4ff657dde8f82a445","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":796,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-26T08:16:48.410Z","text":"照着这个整吧，再把后来的补上，https://x.com/[删节：成员身份]urheart/status/1948857346991817066?s=46","edited":true,"reply_to":"q271a553a429bf144e96e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20b4ff657dde8f82a445","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q271a553a429bf144e96e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qd89bc4975f8e673cad52","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":797,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-26T08:42:50.994Z","text":"https://x.com/testurheart/status/2015707785468555506?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd89bc4975f8e673cad52","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000073"},{"id":"qa1bcade978b63b949d36","batch_id":"batch-000073","seq":798,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-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