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多次直播，偏偏就没有人问他跟王的事情，因为他周围全是一些爱郭贼。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q833459983e5168549f33","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q21029de876dd31a5b84c","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":23,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-01-26T22:26:06.681Z","text":"为什么郭要把她放在自己家住呢？他玩的是什么大棋呀？岳庆芝是什么态度？以前这坐八掛我是不会答理的。现在突然又好奇起来了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5f1902af4b1402125fb8","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21029de876dd31a5b84c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"qce2377edd86566ac90e3","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":24,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-01-26T22:27:59.507Z","text":"她也完全可以在纽约租房子住呀。郭也不缺这个钱。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce2377edd86566ac90e3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q08f1cae7482beb910833","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":25,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-01-26T22:43:22.590Z","text":"王艳萍不是有自己的公寓啊？什么时候住郭的18楼啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08f1cae7482beb910833","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q49507f31d8a8b8cfbf08","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":26,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-01-26T22:58:20.160Z","text":"https://x.com/quan_tian777/status/2015831311831753091?s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q49507f31d8a8b8cfbf08","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q468a32ca27487b4710f7","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":27,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-01-26T23:44:36.386Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/2015933868340113705?s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q468a32ca27487b4710f7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"qdee067ba4daf2980d189","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":28,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-01-27T00:06:18.031Z","text":"经常在那里住吧。飞飞有一次半夜3-4点从着火的宾馆出来，王就是在他郭的18楼呀。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q08f1cae7482beb910833","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdee067ba4daf2980d189","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08f1cae7482beb910833","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q422820b14164519439df","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":29,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-01-27T00:23:45.274Z","text":"路子就是判刑 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下下周 如果有机会 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多少remission给点","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69f6b93321090f6b543d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"qe2a3fc5a8e97b37a99bf","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":49,"speaker":"she***","date":"2026-01-27T07:16:27.672Z","text":"刚进群，麻烦谁能给解释一下853i和853n，有没有相应的文件？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2a3fc5a8e97b37a99bf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q943332c38c75c5ca57a9","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":50,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-27T07:18:22.948Z","text":"现在中共要是灭了，那真是跟爆料革命没有一根毛的关系","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0a542c4f7232df7b0a54","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q943332c38c75c5ca57a9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"qd62d039975e0463ffe42","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":51,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-27T07:25:11.635Z","text":"他狗屁，就是个金融骗子","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0e2b990ea8aa935a994d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd62d039975e0463ffe42","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e2b990ea8aa935a994d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q561a335f39f342192bdd","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":52,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T07:41:29.895Z","text":"习主席还是牛逼","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q561a335f39f342192bdd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"qa39ced199def7185c9e6","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":53,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-01-27T07:44:22.054Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ 你查一下，假设盖尔或者Gavenman等其他第三方赢了，你不服，有没有资格上诉","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa39ced199def7185c9e6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q24e711226cb789824bfa","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":54,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T07:44:44.510Z","text":"你的意思是法官判853n给他们？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa39ced199def7185c9e6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q24e711226cb789824bfa","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa39ced199def7185c9e6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q40553ecf59e6ae05e4ba","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":55,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T07:50:59.159Z","text":"受害者二次伤害","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40553ecf59e6ae05e4ba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q03e2a63308697dabf8c0","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":56,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T07:52:30.724Z","text":"都不用问机器人","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb1c7adfbde6b04a5cb3c","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q03e2a63308697dabf8c0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q2dec0b6de9e21dfb0283","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":57,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T07:52:34.241Z","text":"这个可以强制令","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2dec0b6de9e21dfb0283","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q2d93e16f12ba5d5a1198","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":58,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T07:52:45.759Z","text":"用cvra的快速通道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d93e16f12ba5d5a1198","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q4dea1b4723b45dce1281","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":59,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T07:55:15.954Z","text":"群里有第一份最高法立案 才有资格提翻案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4dea1b4723b45dce1281","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"qf6d68b474e4c0e3dd995","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":60,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-01-27T08:00:14.618Z","text":"在郭文贵案（23 Cr. 118）当前的 21 U.S.C. § 853(n) 没收程序中，关于“第三方请愿成功后，其他请愿人能否上诉”的问题，法律规定和程序细节非常明确：\n\n1. 能否上诉？\n结论是：可以，但必须等到“最终没收令”发布后。\n\n根据《联邦刑事诉讼规则》第 32.2(c)(3) 条，法律对这种情况有明确限制：\n\n“如果在同一案件中有多个第三方提交了请愿书，除非法院确定‘没有理由延迟’，否则在对所有请愿书作出裁决之前，准许或驳回其中一份请愿书的命令是不可上诉的。”\n\n这意味着：\n\n如果法官裁定某一个第三方（比如 A）请愿成功，拿走了部分资产，而你（请愿人 B）认为这损害了你的分配份额或权属，你不能立刻上诉。\n\n你必须等待法官处理完这“数百份” 请愿书，并发布最终的**《最终没收令》（Final Order of Forfeiture）**。在该最终裁决发布后的规定期限内（通常是 60 天，因为这被视为准民事程序），受损的第三方可以向第二巡回法院提起上诉。\n\n2. 上诉的“门槛”：你必须有“站脚点”（Standing）\n即使你可以上诉，你也必须证明对方的获胜直接损害了你的法定权益：\n\n资金池冲突： 如果被没收的资产是一个固定的“资金池”（如扣押的现金），A 拿走了 1 亿，剩下的钱不足以偿还其他受害者，那么其他受害者通常具有上诉的利害关系。\n\n权属排他性： 如果 A 被认定为某项特定资产（如某处房产）的唯一合法拥有者，而你也声称拥有该房产，你当然有权上诉挑战该裁决。\n\n3. 目前程序中的风险点\n结合 2026 年 1 月 20 日的状态会议，目前存在一个巨大的程序变数：特别主事官（Special Master）。\n\n如果法院委任了特别主事官来统一处理这 100 多份请愿，主事官会给出一份**“建议报告”**。\n\n关键步骤： 在法官采纳报告之前，你有权对该报告提出**“异议”（Objections）**。如果你对 A 的获胜不服，必须先在主事官和地方法官层面提出异议。如果没有在这个阶段提出异议，你可能会失去未来上诉的权利。\n\n4. 为什么会有“不服判决”的情况？\n在郭文贵案中，这种“内斗”极易发生。正如你之前分析的：\n\n如果某间律所（如 Gavenman）代理的“共谋实体”被法官判定为“合法债权人”优先拿走了钱。\n\n作为真正的独立投资者，你完全有理由通过上诉指控该判决基于“共谋欺诈”和“利益冲突”。\n\n总结建议\n如果你是不服判决的第三方：\n\n关注“最终没收令”： 只有在这个令状发布后，上诉之门才正式开启。\n\n盯紧“特别主事官”的推荐： 法官已要求在 2026 年 2 月 10 日前提交主事官人选。一旦主事官开始工作，任何关于 A 获胜的异议都必须第一时间通过书面形式进入法庭记录，否则上诉法院会认为你“弃权”。\n\n你会考虑针对目前已知的某些潜在请愿成功者（如嫌疑共谋实体）提前向法庭提交“利益冲突告知函”吗？这通常是上诉前必要的铺垫。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6d68b474e4c0e3dd995","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q6e961eea6c7b51207ced","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":61,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T08:00:58.321Z","text":"不对 不是上诉 是申请强制令","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf6d68b474e4c0e3dd995","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e961eea6c7b51207ced","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6d68b474e4c0e3dd995","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q00eae68ce6afa9e7bfa6","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":62,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T08:03:55.844Z","text":"要先写小论文","edited":false,"reply_to":"q025eaefe9c6c65f27592","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00eae68ce6afa9e7bfa6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"qe3a90b2343f2397d2da1","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":63,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T08:04:00.058Z","text":"去二巡记录","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3a90b2343f2397d2da1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q0232d2adde5e2b52142f","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":64,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T08:04:35.251Z","text":"这个肯定是肯定强制令啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0232d2adde5e2b52142f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q77f76b325006cc671c65","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":65,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T08:05:22.777Z","text":"这个肯定是强制令","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3b41959d82a39eefb2fc","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77f76b325006cc671c65","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q693337d72b3475a95a65","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":66,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T08:05:33.942Z","text":"因为这个伤害不可逆 不能等","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q693337d72b3475a95a65","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q09eae76b7c2de695a872","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":67,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T08:09:05.678Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]  不要上诉 强制令","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q09eae76b7c2de695a872","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"qfb4c8d490bc9734f7aa3","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":68,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T08:12:59.091Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]  不止没有量刑 连没收 都不可能了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb4c8d490bc9734f7aa3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q4ddb1b20056ed718579a","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":69,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T08:13:01.592Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ddb1b20056ed718579a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q65af0bff9a85d6e1167d","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":70,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-27T08:14:06.337Z","text":"就是这意思 [删节：隐私信息] 为了钱 要不要考虑 取消请愿remission 一起翻案？🤣","edited":true,"reply_to":"qfb4c8d490bc9734f7aa3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65af0bff9a85d6e1167d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb4c8d490bc9734f7aa3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q227d6c1915a1700eebfc","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":71,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T08:15:45.598Z","text":"法官现在收不了场了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q227d6c1915a1700eebfc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q3c25d05228286c140d71","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":72,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-27T08:16:44.203Z","text":"青 AVA们 也没有回头路了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q227d6c1915a1700eebfc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c25d05228286c140d71","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q227d6c1915a1700eebfc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"qdfbb393fed8520e58645","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":73,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T08:17:50.075Z","text":"我觉得 法官最好的情况 就是法庭上任何853n 都变成853i","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdfbb393fed8520e58645","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q22aead5e8ba806f520ea","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":74,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T08:17:56.263Z","text":"也就是说 一视同仁","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22aead5e8ba806f520ea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q42f111c0901a14f06bdf","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":75,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T08:18:01.346Z","text":"全都去政府remission","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42f111c0901a14f06bdf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q822d06f104384d66d950","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":76,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-27T08:19:31.396Z","text":"Judge想 但第三方853n会和他死磕","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q822d06f104384d66d950","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q778477aa4bb2c7891fa5","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":77,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T08:19:36.212Z","text":"只要有任何853n被批准","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q778477aa4bb2c7891fa5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q2e5634ddd3078d3be123","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":78,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T08:20:02.375Z","text":"所以这个案子就这样僵着吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q822d06f104384d66d950","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e5634ddd3078d3be123","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q822d06f104384d66d950","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"qf7794d90c6f0c67979fa","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":79,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T08:20:08.083Z","text":"法官风险最低就是拖","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf7794d90c6f0c67979fa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q6995cc36683ea7f17529","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":80,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T08:20:22.248Z","text":"不可能没收 不可能量刑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6995cc36683ea7f17529","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q7720b29690d59476eb54","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":81,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T08:21:51.461Z","text":"法官难受的时候还远没有到来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7720b29690d59476eb54","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q7fad83e215a34a776cdf","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":82,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-27T08:23:04.727Z","text":"作为当初被采访的郭案“受害者”\n没明白 他做了[删节：隐私信息] 的免费宣传员\n怕是采访费都没给🤣","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fad83e215a34a776cdf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q726ef22664b3e8f3d8c9","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":83,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T08:29:04.866Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 洗洗睡吧 没收都没了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q726ef22664b3e8f3d8c9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"qcd58669cc624bedb35d7","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":84,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T08:29:41.155Z","text":"不用等最终没收令","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4eab01c0dce48bbe2227","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd58669cc624bedb35d7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q0180069b6fa60cc6b147","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":85,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T08:29:49.135Z","text":"只要法官批准 就可以上","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0180069b6fa60cc6b147","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q4666d35e5c5600c8d82f","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":86,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T08:30:37.595Z","text":"想拿钱 只有翻案一条路","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4666d35e5c5600c8d82f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q6c73c38850e3ad45ce0d","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":87,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T08:31:46.155Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]  我觉得这案子耗到最后 很可能是托雷斯自己推翻","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c73c38850e3ad45ce0d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q38e6d4ca37eed3cb67cc","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":88,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T08:31:53.454Z","text":"因为那是她最体面的选项","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38e6d4ca37eed3cb67cc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"qbdb7ef4a72b5b6b52264","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":89,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-27T08:35:31.007Z","text":"青（周阅）作为(检方)受害人 在没收程序开启前 25年2月\n鼓动欺骗(第三方)853n索赔claim (资产所有权者）6000人\n登记成为(检方)请愿审赦免petition for remission (利益人owner或受害人victim)\n这是 “第三方”和“检方”的 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也要重来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa19bb641c8248bc27e5a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q58d96ab5e1092c17bfde","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":92,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T08:37:51.817Z","text":"托雷斯唯一的选择","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58d96ab5e1092c17bfde","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"qb090da85961dca9b5512","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":93,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T08:37:59.429Z","text":"是不没收 强量","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb090da85961dca9b5512","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q25fdac6802c978e6113d","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":94,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T08:38:05.137Z","text":"法律上并没有禁止","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25fdac6802c978e6113d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q6cfe9e46c2b999c6ceab","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":95,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T08:38:11.699Z","text":"只是说 很难看","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6cfe9e46c2b999c6ceab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q846ff9d37d5af752b325","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":96,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T08:42:35.862Z","text":"但这条路估计下周就会被毒死","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q846ff9d37d5af752b325","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q85f708a1cc9ea4621e04","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":97,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-27T08:46:17.035Z","text":"走到现在她还有推翻的理由吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6c73c38850e3ad45ce0d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85f708a1cc9ea4621e04","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c73c38850e3ad45ce0d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"qe004b9fd88928174d053","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":98,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T08:46:59.769Z","text":"这个就不知道了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q85f708a1cc9ea4621e04","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe004b9fd88928174d053","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85f708a1cc9ea4621e04","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q4bc4bc7f0f980eae3cf7","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":99,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T08:47:13.085Z","text":"但当她所有选择都比推翻的风险更大时","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4bc4bc7f0f980eae3cf7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"qb1b006396a0ece963852","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":100,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T08:47:19.256Z","text":"她肯定会推翻","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1b006396a0ece963852","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q6b5dbef998cf10be6050","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":101,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-27T08:48:44.234Z","text":"她要报警","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b5dbef998cf10be6050","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"qec9de0d84d19fd16b08d","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":102,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2026-01-27T11:11:00.173Z","text":"29号还没到呢","edited":false,"reply_to":"q726ef22664b3e8f3d8c9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec9de0d84d19fd16b08d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q726ef22664b3e8f3d8c9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q4c9ec60e08ecdcc1b94d","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":103,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-01-27T11:15:23.626Z","text":"什么时候联盟暴毙","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c9ec60e08ecdcc1b94d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q0f7ac1a6f449c26d958e","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":104,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-27T11:29:10.990Z","text":"肯定会 而且青是替死鬼","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4c9ec60e08ecdcc1b94d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f7ac1a6f449c26d958e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c9ec60e08ecdcc1b94d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q6a26f1eab5d0a53c250f","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":105,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-27T11:58:04.518Z","text":"数字银行 那100多人 客户代表是泰山吗？\n负责和Govenman律师沟通的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a26f1eab5d0a53c250f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"qeb0472c72157a90e2a08","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":106,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-01-27T12:38:12.764Z","text":"不知道。当时泰山这个[屏蔽词]没少宣传。你可以去找一下小羊时评","edited":true,"reply_to":"q6a26f1eab5d0a53c250f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb0472c72157a90e2a08","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a26f1eab5d0a53c250f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"qb23abb00a8f974725bbc","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":107,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-27T12:40:42.541Z","text":"https://x.com/testurheart/status/2016129131662938235?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb23abb00a8f974725bbc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"qc03c62805797ec88c416","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":108,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-01-27T13:20:12.059Z","text":"https://x.com/ddivul8m3g82864/status/2016137455603482907?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc03c62805797ec88c416","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q49281e35b72ff8190c85","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":109,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-01-27T13:48:41.878Z","text":"这么说，现在联盟、法官都在企图把第三方往853n 推，最后法官来个一刀切，把所有跟郭案相关、G系列相关的、集体性质的 853n 全部判为不认可，因此那些853n 受害者一分钱也要不回，除非大家都以CVRA 身份介入、找出程序漏洞、把这个案子推翻。CVRA是联盟的最怕、法官的极力打压所在，也被文悦大[屏蔽词]诋毁为自诉陷井。😂","edited":true,"reply_to":"q7df7dfecc92afb753205","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q49281e35b72ff8190c85","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"qe0c4411f3236644e50c0","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":110,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-27T13:51:22.483Z","text":"下一个853n窗口 大概什么时候开？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q49281e35b72ff8190c85","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0c4411f3236644e50c0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q49281e35b72ff8190c85","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"qa09b513afbcd3c75b9d0","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":111,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-01-27T13:57:32.774Z","text":"好像还没有关吧。\n1月20日的庭审记录中法官就是暗示大家都去走853n 途径；她把CVRA的自诉都贬低为抱怨 (complaint) , 她只让有律师代理的 853n 上传。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe0c4411f3236644e50c0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa09b513afbcd3c75b9d0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0c4411f3236644e50c0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"qaa576a27a85e7a2e056f","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":112,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-27T14:40:05.742Z","text":"我一直以为是用美国邮局给我退件，刚才打电话要到tracking 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你自己发了cvra complaint了没有？ 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余 王 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如果不取消代理 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[删节：隐私信息] ，你是不是还在盖尔代理名单上？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d73c3ac49b62dc634e6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q531676ec735e2814257d","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":198,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-27T16:22:47.808Z","text":"你要和他取消代理，盖尔还没同意吧？ ［用户 ntp***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q531676ec735e2814257d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q016371e15fbcd77b71d9","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":199,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-27T16:22:52.546Z","text":"有个问题\n盖尔这个25年4月份的filing增加了客户人数 也就是说他收到了新授权\n那个时候 喜交所已经关闭","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8d73c3ac49b62dc634e6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q016371e15fbcd77b71d9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d73c3ac49b62dc634e6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"},{"id":"q849ce19db05781a4dcd1","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":200,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-27T16:23:17.750Z","text":"你是不能单方面取消代理的吧，盖尔必须同意吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q849ce19db05781a4dcd1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000073","next_batch_id":"batch-000075"}