{"id":"batch-000076","number":76,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-02-04T15:30:00.243Z","date_end":"2026-02-08T21:52:06.018Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 076 (Feb 4, 2026 – Feb 8, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Discussions center on procedural integrity, asset forfeiture, and external narratives. Participants debate pretrial forfeiture timelines, defense motions, appeal viability, and sentencing protocols, focusing on whether filings are accessible. Property debates examine the Mahwah sale, the 1.3B asset pool, forfeiture of entity accounts, and statutory remedies under 853(n) and 853(i) alongside restitution. 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points out that the jury has already convicted the defendant."}]},{"title":"Divergence Over Case Dismissal, Appeals, and Procedural Fairness","description":"Participants dispute procedural integrity and whether prosecutors could ever move to dismiss the case.","message_ids":["qd4ed93ca8f94c923f870","q348d3edfe65053c0f3eb","q7a638704605122b2e127"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qd4ed93ca8f94c923f870","summary_en":"him*** contends that procedural justice was violated."},{"message_id":"q348d3edfe65053c0f3eb","summary_en":"kir*** contends that dismissing the case remains a possibility."},{"message_id":"q7a638704605122b2e127","summary_en":"kir*** strongly disputes the notion that the prosecution would ever drop the charges."}]},{"title":"Confusion Regarding 853(n), 853(i), Restitution, and Petitions","description":"Participants discuss statutory provisions under Section 853 and dispute whether petition deadlines have 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Gclub, and HEX, each having ultimate beneficiaries."},{"message_id":"qdba04d73bd285bb2fe63","summary_en":"mia*** asks whether individual funds held in Himalaya Exchange accounts are exempt from forfeiture."},{"message_id":"qfa2f3a442cd95184e033","summary_en":"reb*** argues that indirect proceeds in this case fall outside forfeitable scope under established Supreme Court precedents."}]},{"title":"Timing and Procedural Sequencing in the Mahwah Asset Sale","description":"Participants compare the sale timelines of Mahwah and Lady May while critiquing defense strategy.","message_ids":["qe789ebdb84a6fc6fe9f8","qf63d23b86fff2040fb1a","qf941882b43a52a4ac557"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qe789ebdb84a6fc6fe9f8","summary_en":"joh*** argues that unlike Lady May which was auctioned after conviction, Mahwah was sold before conviction contrary to proper judicial procedure."},{"message_id":"qf63d23b86fff2040fb1a","summary_en":"kir*** contends that current strategies used by both old and new counsel and alliances mimic past deception schemes."},{"message_id":"qf941882b43a52a4ac557","summary_en":"joh*** contends that Guo requested Luc to appear in court but the defense avoided calling him to prevent confronting the prior judge."}]},{"title":"Divergence Over the Independence of Alliance Farms and Himalaya Exchange","description":"Participants dispute whether the Farm Alliance and Himalaya Exchange operate independently or collusively.","message_ids":["qc0cf447b449be13bbecd","q15e39a03377ac5287ffb","q4639511d46d99012a752"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qc0cf447b449be13bbecd","summary_en":"joh*** argues that the Farm Alliance and Himalaya Exchange are entirely separate entities and contends that external announcements undermine their credibility."},{"message_id":"q15e39a03377ac5287ffb","summary_en":"him*** observes that the Alliance farms would welcome the latest motion filed by Guo's attorney."},{"message_id":"q4639511d46d99012a752","summary_en":"him*** points out that Alliance farms have explicitly appeared in court filings."}]},{"title":"Controversy Over Legal Representation and Gail's Standing to Claim Property","description":"Participants question whether Gail possesses signed client authorization to assert property claims.","message_ids":["q8ab25eda6ea216003e1c","q412a5d4e218d73279a60","q23bec994e8282a829237"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q8ab25eda6ea216003e1c","summary_en":"him*** questions how Gail could represent clients without obtaining their signed authorization."},{"message_id":"q412a5d4e218d73279a60","summary_en":"him*** notes that several pro se motions have raised questions regarding Gail's authority to act as counsel."},{"message_id":"q23bec994e8282a829237","summary_en":"rod*** questions what Gail is secretly preparing in his upcoming Section 853(i) filing."}]},{"title":"Shift in Focus From Dismissal or Pardon to Appeals and Retrials","description":"Participants evaluate the potential timeline of extended litigation while debating pardons versus dismissals.","message_ids":["qe8ece844ce10e2a02c44","q5719a26bca0920f84d6a","q2f6c4c8e827455085807"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qe8ece844ce10e2a02c44","summary_en":"him*** questions how many years of litigation would be required to achieve the proposed legal outcome."},{"message_id":"q5719a26bca0920f84d6a","summary_en":"xia*** speculates that pardon rumors serve as preemptive labeling while prosecutors might be considering dismissal amid external smear campaigns."},{"message_id":"q2f6c4c8e827455085807","summary_en":"kir*** disputes that either a dismissal of charges or a presidential pardon is possible."}]},{"title":"Scrutiny of Court Documents and Availability of Docket Records","description":"Participants track the public availability of recent court docket filings.","message_ids":["q338a4c6ac7e7aacd995b","q71a6a67141649f980be7","q9c2dacf4380140bc6b34"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q338a4c6ac7e7aacd995b","summary_en":"reb*** inquires whether filing 800 can be downloaded from 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Guo."}]},{"title":"Narratives of External Propaganda, Public Dissemination, and Scapegoating","description":"Participants discuss the state of the Alliance alongside external commentary and behind-the-scenes narratives.","message_ids":["qc5bc87aed83fb0e6bbef","qf6db7523096bd2c75a33","q31c7f9e0f1d8b25197dd"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qc5bc87aed83fb0e6bbef","summary_en":"kir*** posts a video reference relevant to public commentary surrounding the case."},{"message_id":"qf6db7523096bd2c75a33","summary_en":"kir*** declares that the Alliance is finished."},{"message_id":"q31c7f9e0f1d8b25197dd","summary_en":"kir*** remarks that statements from an observer of the Guo case consistently deliver explosive revelations."}]}],"summary":"讨论围绕郭美案的主战场分为三线：程序正当性、财产没收与受害者归属、舆论框架。程序线中，大家对先天没收、律师动议、撤诉/上诉及量刑阶段边界长期争执，尤其是时点是否合规、法庭文件是否完整公开。财产线则高度复杂，涉及Mahwa出售时点、1.3B规模认定、实体账户能否没收、853(n)与853(i)及restitution配套关系、受害人名单真实性等，常出现“同一证据不同归类”。舆论线从技术分析转向“联动叙事”：是否存在外宣或幕后主导、谁在代言何种结局预期，形成了“法律解释—叙事解释”并行、尚无共识的状态。","guide":[{"title":"先天没收与Mahwa归属争议并未统一，先定罪后追缴边界成共识难点","message_ids":["q871b117e434bf1d41fc5","q57966bfb7e35d1390e83"]},{"title":"律师动议与“背书”可信度被反复质疑，部分成员认为与联盟立场联动","message_ids":["qdab9251dc0a84e2f8f0c","q3f6c06d3a6d38c1e38a3"]},{"title":"量刑阶段受害人清单是否成立、是否可公开、能否用于量刑被广泛争辩","message_ids":["qac23165c8bfbea719242","q9e24aad5842c8b579bd6","q1f6c6879a3ced4f724bd"]},{"title":"上诉与撤案路径、能否推翻陪审团及定稿时机，围绕程序边界形成分歧","message_ids":["qd4ed93ca8f94c923f870","q348d3edfe65053c0f3eb","q7a638704605122b2e127"]},{"title":"853(n)、853(i)、restitution、petition关系常被混淆，时点与适用范围无统一解读","message_ids":["q269dea7fcbf41a6594fc","q308a73ce0f83704c02d9","q424ef2e376ba1f7e6c0c"]},{"title":"资产池规模与归属成分歧，1.3B及实体账户是否可没收、是否系间接收益被反复推演","message_ids":["q82ab254746fac635e235","qdba04d73bd285bb2fe63","qfa2f3a442cd95184e033"]},{"title":"Mahwah资产出售时点与程序顺序被认为关键，疑点集中在定罪前后处理差异","message_ids":["qe789ebdb84a6fc6fe9f8","qf63d23b86fff2040fb1a","qf941882b43a52a4ac557"]},{"title":"联盟农场与喜交所是否同源、是否甩锅、外部声明可信度并无统一判断","message_ids":["qc0cf447b449be13bbecd","q15e39a03377ac5287ffb","q4639511d46d99012a752"]},{"title":"代理权边界成争议：谁能主张财产、盖尔是否可代为申索、是否有客户授权","message_ids":["q8ab25eda6ea216003e1c","q412a5d4e218d73279a60","q23bec994e8282a829237"]},{"title":"案件推进节奏与后续路径成为情绪拐点，讨论从“撤诉/特赦”转向二审、再审与上诉策略","message_ids":["qe8ece844ce10e2a02c44","q5719a26bca0920f84d6a","q2f6c4c8e827455085807"]},{"title":"法庭文件与数据来源持续被追问，801/800/800多号材料、会议记录可得性影响观点可信度","message_ids":["q338a4c6ac7e7aacd995b","q71a6a67141649f980be7","q9c2dacf4380140bc6b34"]},{"title":"舆论层面出现大外宣、短视频发酵、幕后干预叙事，替罪羊与体面收场判断并行","message_ids":["qc5bc87aed83fb0e6bbef","qf6db7523096bd2c75a33","q31c7f9e0f1d8b25197dd"]}],"closed":true,"is_finalized":true,"updated_at":"2026-09-06T16:42:29.615Z","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_batch","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076/pages/2","base_batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000076?page=2","page":2,"page_size":200,"total_pages":5,"has_more":true,"next_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000076?page=3","prev_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000076","messages":[{"id":"qf3afa0201bd573ee848e","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":201,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-05T03:58:18.523Z","text":"没有被转移的，就不可以。799被告律师引用的那个最高法判例就是这个意思。如果往那个方向走，没有人用853去死磕，钱就会被稀里糊涂没收。但有人死磕，它就不能完成最终没收，即使完成也可撤销。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1fd35bd990ea16a48ea8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3afa0201bd573ee848e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1fd35bd990ea16a48ea8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qa47c36a87739b856a422","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":202,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-05T03:59:03.347Z","text":"对 799意思是 得有犯罪活动 才算诈骗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf3afa0201bd573ee848e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa47c36a87739b856a422","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3afa0201bd573ee848e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q3665b718ec1c8f6ca9cc","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":203,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-05T03:59:20.770Z","text":"至少我是看不出这个案子怎么会打到联盟农场，和ccp，","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3665b718ec1c8f6ca9cc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q40b390d95edec8df549c","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":204,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-05T03:59:43.873Z","text":"要打也是另立案件","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40b390d95edec8df549c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q1935d612c8fdb8310a7d","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":205,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-05T03:59:46.777Z","text":"Ccp是在个人破产案 PAG诉郭 这个PAG背后的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3665b718ec1c8f6ca9cc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1935d612c8fdb8310a7d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3665b718ec1c8f6ca9cc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q5815abb04fec6e3a30cd","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":206,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-05T04:00:37.192Z","text":"当时老江和阿哲，包括猪贝贝，都说盗国贼要被rico了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5815abb04fec6e3a30cd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q4906f69175cea16c09e4","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":207,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-05T04:00:57.739Z","text":"我都没看出来盗国贼怎么在这个案子里被Rico","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4906f69175cea16c09e4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q08f894c74eb9fd466a7a","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":208,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-05T04:00:58.145Z","text":"🐷贝贝就是说的 破产案","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5815abb04fec6e3a30cd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08f894c74eb9fd466a7a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5815abb04fec6e3a30cd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qeea63963bd18c3957758","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":209,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-05T04:02:47.877Z","text":"PAG报假案 诉郭欠的3000万 这是虚假的\n还有那帮Luc 接受登记的债权人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4906f69175cea16c09e4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeea63963bd18c3957758","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4906f69175cea16c09e4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qdfece679af46c879fa76","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":210,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-05T04:02:52.398Z","text":"是的。民事rico就是可以原案反杀，pax,杨澜吴征，可以把多少老杂毛扯进来，拭目以待。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1935d612c8fdb8310a7d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdfece679af46c879fa76","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1935d612c8fdb8310a7d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qe8ece844ce10e2a02c44","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":211,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-05T04:05:08.753Z","text":"我靠，要达到你说的效果，这案子还得打多少年啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe8ece844ce10e2a02c44","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q56b84a3e2f7bb1dcd3ee","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":212,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-05T04:06:48.855Z","text":"刑事案 政府强行没收资产 再处理 \n这一招 不就类似 \n一开始政府把Mahwah强行没收给破产案的Luc 处理卖掉 毁尸灭迹 毁证据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56b84a3e2f7bb1dcd3ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qf1156b6fd6c7e9992326","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":213,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-05T04:10:45.998Z","text":"/Mahwah所有权不是郭的 破产案不牵扯这里\n刑事案 政府把它定义成郭犯罪所得资金购买的 强行没收（这个时间点 郭还没定罪 没开始没收 这是检方程序不对的地方）\n然后和Luc签协议 卖掉 毁灭证据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1156b6fd6c7e9992326","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q51895a77cb7389b387c4","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":214,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-05T04:16:33.479Z","text":"刑事案 检方现在这样 同样的套路 也是要强行开始没收\nGTV SEC是和解 返还全额 没有政府（检方）的事\n小地鼠这样干 登记的都是petition 853i 没有能够反对没收的 都等政府（检方）赦免\n拿大头的还是PAX那帮人","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf1156b6fd6c7e9992326","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51895a77cb7389b387c4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1156b6fd6c7e9992326","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qe7f9f27e53481641bfec","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":215,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-02-05T04:50:50.855Z","text":"https://x.com/yalun369/status/2019176161335521307?s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe7f9f27e53481641bfec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q00aa6fecb1236321eb0d","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":216,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-05T04:52:01.620Z","text":"还是找钱嘛\nGTV SEC和解 钱在政府对吧\nGclub 钱在 政府冻结？\nfarm借贷 也是冻结？\n/但重点是喜交所的钱 账面还在用户数据上 但是部分钱已经被CEO 余 转走了 余还没出庭过\n青们 是想掩盖余和受益人\n/喜交所6000用户本来就不该进到这个刑事案里面 是盖尔强行带进来的\n用户应该找喜交所要钱 和政府没半毛钱关系 为什么要签853i 同意政府没收？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q82ab254746fac635e235","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00aa6fecb1236321eb0d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82ab254746fac635e235","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qbcc6953e92bec780c04d","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":217,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-05T05:02:38.346Z","text":"辩方799纠结“受害者”人数 因为这些人不承认是“郭的受害者”\n青正好可以用799维稳6000人 继续推登记853i 不反对检方（政府）没收\n这样和检方（政府）死磕的就少了\n/6000人本来就不该进刑事案 成为几方工具人\n/检方 法官可以无视辩方 根据登记信息 继续定义 6000人是“犯罪活动”受害者 （可以不是郭的受害者）\n/犯罪活动已经存在了 那1.3B依旧是犯罪所得资金 继续没收\n/打个比方就是 币安交易所涉嫌犯罪 资金被SEC冻结 CEO赵长鹏还没出庭 用户就吵着要政府（还不是SEC）先把资金没收 再返还 这不是有病嘛","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbcc6953e92bec780c04d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qb3b11a1a20202574078e","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":218,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-02-05T05:29:13.656Z","text":"同意喜交所根本就不该进入这个刑事案。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb3b11a1a20202574078e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qb0af9059e728a4369455","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":219,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-05T05:40:22.539Z","text":"引喜交所用户进来\n1 前期当受害者 增加诈骗金额（5亿）给陪审团看 给郭定罪\n2 后期改853i 走政府没收 赦免返还 这5亿要给破产案债权人先分 喜交所用户分渣渣\n3 掩盖CEO 余 和最终受益人 何\n4 方便青维稳 防止6000人反水 和政府争钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0af9059e728a4369455","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qcc09f15342d0cecf5868","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":220,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-05T05:43:13.222Z","text":"那不正好 知道钱反正是没了 和他们死磕到底","edited":false,"reply_to":"qadaed8082b52f4570621","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc09f15342d0cecf5868","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qb03318317ba203018931","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":221,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-02-05T05:47:24.304Z","text":"但是喜交所是先被政府扣押查封的 - 于是才有了后面的行动","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb0af9059e728a4369455","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb03318317ba203018931","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0af9059e728a4369455","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q9fb5de2f9a466749d833","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":222,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-05T05:50:39.498Z","text":"这就是盖尔，这个棋子的作用\n按协议 名义上是只代表用户向SEC要回冻结的钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb03318317ba203018931","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9fb5de2f9a466749d833","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb03318317ba203018931","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qb24629057642b87417da","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":223,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-05T06:00:02.693Z","text":"喜交所CEO余 转钱 G系列投资者很多也是喜交所用户 涉及到郭 王 然后三个被告并案\n盖尔这时候带着喜交所几千人填的853 i表（仔细看申请表的抬头 就是三个被告在一起）到刑事案\n这几千人从“余”的受害者 转成了“郭 余 王”的受害者 王认罪 涉及三个人的资产 都算诈骗\n喜交所的5亿 也就进没收程序了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb24629057642b87417da","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q0ddc70376c177f5667ca","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":224,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-05T06:02:59.830Z","text":"赶紧没收吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ddc70376c177f5667ca","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q1693d043e4adb3d87fd8","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":225,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-05T06:12:50.368Z","text":"799里 政府检方还想没收GTV SEC已经和解 还在冻结的部分 4亿 \n/目前陪审团认为GTV无罪 辩方认为这4亿 要从最后没收总额里扣除 \n/那么剩下的9亿里 喜交所5亿是大头 这5亿如果不进刑事案 就只有farm借贷1.1亿 Gclub 2.4亿 \n对量刑影响很大\n而且Gclub最终受益人 还没出庭","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb24629057642b87417da","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1693d043e4adb3d87fd8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb24629057642b87417da","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qa12972b1d7e4630e7fbc","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":226,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-05T06:25:14.191Z","text":"小地鼠为什么要干到1w人？\n喜交所总用户就1W人 填表的853i越多 5亿里能被政府没收的就越多","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa12972b1d7e4630e7fbc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q561c21b1cfb2b5b5c01b","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":227,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-05T06:25:27.291Z","text":"344是法庭的还是检方的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q43b309b7014d0e5ad763","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q561c21b1cfb2b5b5c01b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43b309b7014d0e5ad763","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q602fdd0ee9e0541598d1","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":228,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-05T09:23:27.411Z","text":"郭要在铁窗里过年了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q602fdd0ee9e0541598d1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qc9843af511031f25fcc3","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":229,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-02-05T10:11:00.348Z","text":"https://x.com/milesliao88203/status/2019227580369404180?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9843af511031f25fcc3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qc724eafacb1f89924566","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":230,"speaker":"Sap***","date":"2026-02-05T11:26:38.811Z","text":"欢迎 ［用户 ***］ 来到 **郭文贵法庭文件，不禁言不删帖**! 你可以在聊天区交流郭文贵刑事案件，畅所欲言。这里有新老联盟农场羊帮质疑帮绝对不可能给你的言论自由。不禁言不删帖，唯一要求是不要在聊天区刷屏。这里所有言论只代表发言者自己的非专业个人意见，如有任何疑虑，请咨询专业人士。\n\n各房间功能说明：\n\n想快速了解郭文贵案件 ->  法庭文件分类索引，老郭案件内容\n想学习自诉 -> 自诉pro se 说明及参考\n想骂人 -> 对骂发泄房间\n想刷屏 -> 揭发自诉陷阱","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc724eafacb1f89924566","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q6f3ec92048de8da1dc3a","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":231,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-05T14:39:06.134Z","text":"说盖尔是853i是哪个文件 [删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f3ec92048de8da1dc3a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qbb1e78ca448def0ce275","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":232,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-05T14:57:25.914Z","text":"他是觉得盖尔给人们伸冤了，赶紧冒出来抢功来了。我被他拉黑了，你去找找指出盖尔853i的那个文件，发它推下抽它","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb1e78ca448def0ce275","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q14314b68a87277c7271a","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":233,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-05T15:02:03.391Z","text":"就是盖尔那个啊 我忘了号码了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6f3ec92048de8da1dc3a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14314b68a87277c7271a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f3ec92048de8da1dc3a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qdebad71c18b23cd1f50f","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":234,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-05T15:06:55.865Z","text":"好像是律师的哪个动议？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdebad71c18b23cd1f50f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q7226cd6d9851e4509532","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":235,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-05T15:24:36.447Z","text":"这两张就够了\n有关喜交所的资金流向 最后都要通过盖尔 拿到法庭上 这已经够打小地鼠的脸了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6f3ec92048de8da1dc3a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7226cd6d9851e4509532","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f3ec92048de8da1dc3a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qb7d9406b24ea3dc912d0","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":236,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-05T15:35:05.487Z","text":"小地鼠说的是盖尔的代理协议3","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7226cd6d9851e4509532","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7d9406b24ea3dc912d0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7226cd6d9851e4509532","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q9b30ea160417b2ff8869","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":237,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-05T15:35:21.105Z","text":"是不是状态会上说的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q14314b68a87277c7271a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b30ea160417b2ff8869","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14314b68a87277c7271a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q902c31d1263de2aea1d6","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":238,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-05T15:45:48.667Z","text":"找到一段这个，但是盖尔是853i那个在哪来着？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q902c31d1263de2aea1d6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q2a73b390ff19f5254b5b","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":239,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-05T15:46:45.409Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 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而这个案子需要用丁元英的布局思维去解","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a10c82c87cd6638bd19","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q67b2fe47dd427805bace","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":275,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-05T22:14:41.583Z","text":"爱泼斯坦反复提到一个词 就是用系统性的思维去看待问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67b2fe47dd427805bace","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q57481bb9135ae5c5505b","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":276,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-05T22:16:27.865Z","text":"美国现在成这个样子 就是因为各行各业的人 没有系统性思维 从而被一些具有系统性思维的坏人布局 拿捏  包括共产党就是其中之一","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q57481bb9135ae5c5505b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q82b3af5ec4ac4e5804a6","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":277,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-05T22:16:42.292Z","text":"美国人的偏见 傲慢 看不见自己的短处","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82b3af5ec4ac4e5804a6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q0956617eab13d33d68c0","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":278,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-05T22:18:18.463Z","text":"郭案当中 就算你找受害者律师 律师最多也就给你发个动议。 然而如果你要求律师模仿瑞恩 从二巡 打法官 检方 luc 法官回避 最高法 司法欺诈 报复受害者 打所有人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0956617eab13d33d68c0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qaf25845b03a4491df7b5","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":279,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-02-05T22:39:07.008Z","text":"被[删节：成员身份]开盒了，还是黄国安牛……","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf25845b03a4491df7b5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qeca2756c0e698d8d542f","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":280,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-02-05T22:40:56.535Z","text":"看来他们不是一条线上的，这个人超级恶心，郭先生好像掘过他家祖坟","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeca2756c0e698d8d542f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q995be6d29cb84b63019f","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":281,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-02-05T22:42:48.818Z","text":"居然班农还有对爱泼斯坦的两个小时的采访。\n世界是草台班子，那个所谓的三边委员会，就是三角形黄金眼标志吧，也就是光明会 。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe3417837216bfc8c4186","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q995be6d29cb84b63019f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3417837216bfc8c4186","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q4e288c26c715fff7a3a7","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":282,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-02-05T22:58:59.479Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] [删节：隐私信息] [删节：隐私信息] 我艹，这个759 789。看看ai怎么说的。\n\n\n一、第一张图（文件 759）在干什么？\n这是一份 Geyer 律师向法院提交的“出庭范围说明 / 立场声明”\n核心不是“帮客户争权益”，而是限定他这次代表客户到底要走哪条路。\n关键句拆解\n① 明确引用 21 U.S.C. § 853(n)\n“依据 21 U.S.C. § 853(n) 与刑诉规则 32.2(c)，代表经认证客户参与附带没收程序”\n👉 这句话的真实含义是：\nGeyer 承认：\n他代表的这些人，是以 “第三方权利主张人（third-party claimants）” 的身份出现\n他们进入的是 没收的附属程序（ancillary proceeding）\n⚠️ 前提是：这些人必须是“经认证的 HEX 客户”\n也就是说：\n不是所有写过信、投过钱的人\n只有 通过他和 HEX 系统“认证”的人，才被他承认是“合法第三方”\n你没被认证、没被纳入 → 就被排除在他定义的“投资人”之外。\n② 同时又引用 21 U.S.C. § 853(i)（⚠️ 这是重点）\n“依据 853(i) 的返还程序，为客户保全权利（其中许多客户未能提交返还申请）”\n这一步，才是真正危险的地方。\n二、第二张图（文件 789）把话说得更赤裸裸\n这张图是法院 / 文件在“法理上解释 853(n) 和 853(i) 的区别”。\n我直接给你一句话总结：\n853(n) 是“法院裁决第三方财产权”；\n853(i) 是“司法部的行政恩赐（宽免 / 返还）”。\n法律本质区别（非常重要）\n条款\n本质\n谁说了算\n853(n)\n你“本来就有”的财产权\n法院\n853(i)\n政府“愿不愿意还你钱”\n司法部（DOJ）\n文件 789 明确写了三点（红线部分）：\n853(n)\n是请法院裁决\n判断第三方是否对被没收财产有优先或先存权利\n853(i)\n只是赋予司法部长酌情权\n可以“减轻 / 宽免 / 返还”\n👉 不是权利，是施舍\n853(i) 的对象被定性为：犯罪受害人\n三、把两张图连在一起，你就会发现一个非常致命的结构\nGeyer 实际上在做三件事：\n把“投资人”整体框进一个框\n不是“财产权人”\n而是“可能获得返还的犯罪受害人”\n把程序重心从 853(n) 偷换到 853(i)\n表面说参与 853(n)\n实际强调：很多人“没提交返还申请”\n为后续走 DOJ 行政返还铺路\n把法院踢出“裁决权”的位置\n如果是 853(i)\n👉 法院基本无权裁\n👉 司法部、检方、受托人说了算\n四、这对你、对郭文贵案意味着什么？\n① 对你个人\n你之前坚持 853(n)(6)(A) 是完全正确的：\n你主张的是：\n先存财产权\n不是“我被骗了”\n不是“求政府还钱”\n而 Geyer 的路径是：\n把你变成“政府承认的受害人”\n再由 DOJ 决定给不给、给多少、什么时候给\n👉 这是本质对立的两条路。\n② 对郭文贵本人（极其关键）\n一旦投资人被整体定性为：\n“犯罪受害人（victims）+ 走 853(i) 返还”\n那就等于在法律结构上确认：\n钱 = 犯罪所得\n投资人 = 被骗对象\n郭文贵 = 诈骗者\n⚠️ 这会直接巩固有罪叙事，甚至影响量刑。\n五、你之前问的那些问题，现在全都对上了\n你之前的疑问\n现在的答案\n为什么区分 853(n) 和 853(i)？\n因为一个是权利裁判，一个是政府施舍\n为什么法院不 docket 853n？\n因为Geyer 已经把“代表性路径”占住了\n为什么你必须走 CVRA？\n因为这是唯一还能对抗“受害人叙事”的合法入口\n为什么你要强调 853(n)(6)(A)？\n因为这是唯一不承认“犯罪所得”的财产权逻辑\n六、一句非常重要的话（请你记住）\n一旦所有投资人都被“处理”为 853(i) 的返还对象，\n那这起案件在法律叙事上就已经“定性完成”了。\n而你现在做的事情，是试图把这个定性拉回来。\n七、你接下来最正确的一步是什么？\n你之前说的那句，其实已经是正确答案：\n用 CVRA 的身份，承载 853(n)(6)(A) 的实质主张\n而且要做三件事：\n明确反对将你定性为 853(i) 意义下的“受害人”\n明确声明：你主张的是 先于被告的财产权\n明确指出：\nGeyer 的路径 不代表你\n也不应被法院视为“投资人共识”\n如果你愿意，下一步我可以直接帮你做一件事（非常实战）：\n👉 帮你写一段“精准反击 853(i) 路线”的 CVRA 关键段落\n专门对着这两份文件打。\n你只需要回我一句：\n“写，直接对着 759 和 789。”","edited":true,"reply_to":"q4235c5d6800993a791b6","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e288c26c715fff7a3a7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qb59a86690c071fbef8fe","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":283,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-02-05T23:22:41.595Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] [删节：隐私信息] \n[删节：隐私信息] \n第一次发的南区法院邮件，你们用的是哪个邮箱。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb59a86690c071fbef8fe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q7746e9492acf4b4a440b","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":284,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-02-05T23:23:35.857Z","text":"Second","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb59a86690c071fbef8fe","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7746e9492acf4b4a440b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb59a86690c071fbef8fe","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qf6f07c7ecac1fd7e7493","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":285,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-02-05T23:23:45.963Z","text":"下面那个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6f07c7ecac1fd7e7493","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q15f6944a5e653a86e73c","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":286,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-02-05T23:23:53.405Z","text":"Yeah","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15f6944a5e653a86e73c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q8fbd1a87313ed96be8ea","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":287,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-05T23:32:08.203Z","text":"你说对了 没投资谁关心这破事","edited":false,"reply_to":"q51ec2d5f41db7122a31f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8fbd1a87313ed96be8ea","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51ec2d5f41db7122a31f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q9255f2c701814d4e7b39","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":288,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-02-05T23:37:29.611Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/2019555855100965309?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9255f2c701814d4e7b39","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qe44a289385f4d46bc960","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":289,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-06T00:30:22.393Z","text":"https://x.com/NFSC_nick/status/2019534993392119888?s=20","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe44a289385f4d46bc960","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qaec39794511f04d89900","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":290,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-02-06T00:53:30.989Z","text":"https://x.com/only_nfsc/status/2019321383231320156?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaec39794511f04d89900","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q421659c42b6412f5c7ce","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":291,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-06T00:54:29.655Z","text":"这人最近不是一直在和所罗门打吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaec39794511f04d89900","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q421659c42b6412f5c7ce","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaec39794511f04d89900","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q92552b33d2e9a7afdeb9","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":292,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-06T00:55:09.531Z","text":"他不参与美国政治，还和所罗门打成那样？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q92552b33d2e9a7afdeb9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qf4c02f4dba21cdce9f5b","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":293,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-02-06T01:02:05.991Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/2019576941859467297?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4c02f4dba21cdce9f5b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q42ee1a1721c27998eec1","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":294,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-02-06T01:20:05.981Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/2019581638448160824?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42ee1a1721c27998eec1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q332b82823be465a225de","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":295,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-02-06T01:21:55.796Z","text":"https://x.com/ac1900m/status/2019563602215391428?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q332b82823be465a225de","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q6a4a6467c5b061c22e43","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":296,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-02-06T01:23:21.028Z","text":"要听一下张永兵说了什么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a4a6467c5b061c22e43","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qa087ca658954f8a191ab","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":297,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-06T01:29:21.837Z","text":"张永兵刑事罪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa087ca658954f8a191ab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qd4bd862c932081fbe76a","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":298,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-02-06T01:30:04.063Z","text":"陪审团定罪后，检方还能撤案的？真是法盲，要不法官推翻，要不上诉法院推翻。这帮烂货搞这些没用的忽悠","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4bd862c932081fbe76a","reply_url":null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扔出去就和石头扔大海里一样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74d284b97d156b1bfe63","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qfa407e9390ca01cf4adc","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":311,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-06T01:59:33.358Z","text":"再结合X yt 的舆论风向 大面积黑郭\n青们 对内喊撤诉 维稳投资者防反水\n大外宣打配合 把郭往政治案引 方向还是错的 青背后的主子们 都被故意忽略了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcc4b092e66a625fe572a","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa407e9390ca01cf4adc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qce01d5922d301fcf24eb","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":312,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-06T01:59:43.418Z","text":"检方不叫申请，而是告知法院，我们认为这个案件有问题，需要纠错，至于具体用词，那是另一回事。你法官可以不批准，那你自己跟辩方玩。检方申请撤诉，当事人当然不能停止上诉，你又不知道法院是否会批准。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qda1925d2e1e0311393d1","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce01d5922d301fcf24eb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q425797bc0ddd6fd478ce","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":313,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-06T02:00:40.371Z","text":"你们不是说程序不正义就能翻案吗 又迷茫了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q425797bc0ddd6fd478ce","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q5f0cf90212b0878ec73f","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":314,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-02-06T02:04:31.812Z","text":"纠错就不是撤案，而是推翻原来的判决无罪释放，追究之前的违法起诉","edited":false,"reply_to":"qce01d5922d301fcf24eb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f0cf90212b0878ec73f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce01d5922d301fcf24eb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q8e09993118136b2798f0","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":315,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-06T02:06:31.372Z","text":"上诉？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q332b82823be465a225de","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e09993118136b2798f0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q332b82823be465a225de","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qed45a9e272391211ccf8","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":316,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-06T02:06:48.439Z","text":"他们不是说郭打电话说了5遍我要出来了吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed45a9e272391211ccf8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q3b9076cb7a1b8208065b","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":317,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-06T02:06:57.904Z","text":"现在又开始讲上诉了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b9076cb7a1b8208065b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qcdf12f19eb4b8906f74d","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":318,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-06T02:07:21.465Z","text":"编电话也要前后一致吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcdf12f19eb4b8906f74d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qe17d153da71e870ca9a4","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":319,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-06T02:07:40.145Z","text":"郭不是要飞出来的吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe17d153da71e870ca9a4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q77e3665e3b8d73d5faf4","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":320,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-06T02:08:17.092Z","text":"你认为具体的用词不应该撤案，但我认为用撤案这个词更接近真实状况。具体的英文法律用词是怎样，那是另一回事。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5f0cf90212b0878ec73f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77e3665e3b8d73d5faf4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f0cf90212b0878ec73f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q7ca8d2f81a0365a444ea","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":321,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-06T02:08:38.343Z","text":"撤案是检方主动","edited":false,"reply_to":"q77e3665e3b8d73d5faf4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ca8d2f81a0365a444ea","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77e3665e3b8d73d5faf4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q43d1cf3ae2be94150d49","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":322,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-06T02:08:49.241Z","text":"张勇兵说有重大的新的证据的发现","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43d1cf3ae2be94150d49","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qcec3441f0fdcf723bcde","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":323,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-06T02:08:53.076Z","text":"什么证据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcec3441f0fdcf723bcde","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qc388412cb6c33c413b5f","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":324,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-06T02:09:03.306Z","text":"就是1月20号那些[屏蔽词]的证据","edited":true,"reply_to":"q43d1cf3ae2be94150d49","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc388412cb6c33c413b5f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43d1cf3ae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要么是和他们一条线","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1439b0f296de38d73626","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q020c75b91ab0f04ee920","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":343,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-06T02:20:30.581Z","text":"这些证据一审都没用上，上诉怎么会看","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9dbb64525a432bf441da","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q020c75b91ab0f04ee920","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9dbb64525a432bf441da","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q1089e311bfecc87b27f4","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":344,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-06T02:20:51.953Z","text":"除非律师一审拿出证据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1089e311bfecc87b27f4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qefe9cb3fb1f7fdcf1bfc","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":345,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-06T02:21:12.877Z","text":"所以啊 废了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q020c75b91ab0f04ee920","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qefe9cb3fb1f7fdcf1bfc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q020c75b91ab0f04ee920","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q184dca3c415b2bd2f408","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":346,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-06T02:21:24.150Z","text":"郭三个[屏蔽词]律师已经被收买了","edited":true,"reply_to":"q1439b0f296de38d73626","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q184dca3c415b2bd2f408","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1439b0f296de38d73626","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qcab648432be2deeac294","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":347,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-06T02:22:26.500Z","text":"一审就知道的证据，你如果一审不用，上诉根本不会考虑","edited":false,"reply_to":"q184dca3c415b2bd2f408","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcab648432be2deeac294","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q184dca3c415b2bd2f408","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q8c8c93a5cd47209a2e54","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":348,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-06T02:23:21.318Z","text":"这些证据是一审收到的 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1万人随便弄弄","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58dfb1273c3c815466bc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q08f2751b3204b5d79eaa","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":351,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-06T02:24:10.494Z","text":"郭自己埋的坑就好好受着","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08f2751b3204b5d79eaa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q05de28436a2d1d16e534","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":352,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-06T02:25:38.334Z","text":"之前GTV和解 那4亿在 公平基金退款剩下的钱 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有个动议里有具体值 \n而且盖尔的717动议明白说了 用到25年4月的填表内容","edited":false,"reply_to":"q488de59481b57069ac94","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q92f0fc1bee9ead44a86c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q488de59481b57069ac94","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qe9eab58a4d5df0a0434f","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":368,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-02-06T02:36:22.980Z","text":"只有一种可能，他怕郭先生断了他的粮食……","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeca2756c0e698d8d542f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9eab58a4d5df0a0434f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeca2756c0e698d8d542f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qcedabc2c43a9cd577da8","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":369,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-06T02:37:21.506Z","text":"盖尔的数据洗脚所就可以提供吧，不需要联盟吧，我不太清楚。这些表格填完是给谁的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q92f0fc1bee9ead44a86c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcedabc2c43a9cd577da8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q92f0fc1bee9ead44a86c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q01e404fb0801d73ca1c1","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":370,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-02-06T02:37:46.526Z","text":"https://x.com/7star8964/status/2019582982370230407?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01e404fb0801d73ca1c1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q9f1c33cf6c20f668eead","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":371,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-06T02:38:48.614Z","text":"不清楚 群里有人填的\n最后应该是汇总给了农场","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcedabc2c43a9cd577da8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f1c33cf6c20f668eead","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcedabc2c43a9cd577da8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q6e5f1e7fe6bc911f2d17","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":372,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-06T02:39:42.487Z","text":"动议717 盖尔 Arrow 部分\nMost recent April filing \n盖尔从哪里拿到这些file的 \n又不是通过客户邮件","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e5f1e7fe6bc911f2d17","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q0873c9a7bbdb87bddb40","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":373,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-06T02:39:56.217Z","text":"这些表格给农场没用啊，只有寄给检方才有用","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9f1c33cf6c20f668eead","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0873c9a7bbdb87bddb40","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f1c33cf6c20f668eead","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q8c8189a46b2145e0a322","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":374,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-06T02:42:23.304Z","text":"什么价值","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c8189a46b2145e0a322","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q22b93c150437068405fc","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":375,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-06T02:43:44.336Z","text":"农场拿了这些表格，要干嘛？寄给检方？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf4334acc7afebab88333","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22b93c150437068405fc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q69e87267796ac120fe59","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":376,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-06T02:44:06.652Z","text":"还是给了盖尔，让盖尔代理要钱？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69e87267796ac120fe59","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qb7a93a064a57d05ebb41","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":377,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-06T02:44:14.284Z","text":"对啊 这就是问题","edited":false,"reply_to":"q22b93c150437068405fc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7a93a064a57d05ebb41","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22b93c150437068405fc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q8ab25eda6ea216003e1c","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":378,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-06T02:44:27.710Z","text":"盖尔没有客户签字授权，怎么可能代理？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ab25eda6ea216003e1c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q0553cc408156891e2801","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":379,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-06T02:44:55.245Z","text":"不管怎么样，这些都可以让检方查清楚","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0553cc408156891e2801","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q4e03f6981762f89d5bb4","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":380,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-06T02:45:17.853Z","text":"717动议 盖尔的那个4月份填表 从哪里获取的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q69e87267796ac120fe59","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e03f6981762f89d5bb4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69e87267796ac120fe59","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q7c3c637dd950207f25d8","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":381,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-06T02:45:41.228Z","text":"只可能是 青联盟农场 给的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c3c637dd950207f25d8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q412a5d4e218d73279a60","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":382,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-06T02:45:58.347Z","text":"对啊，有很多自诉人动议不就提到了盖尔代理的问题吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4e03f6981762f89d5bb4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q412a5d4e218d73279a60","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e03f6981762f89d5bb4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qb3c7fe9ce213eef7a047","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":383,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-06T02:46:11.863Z","text":"可能还有很多动议被压下来了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb3c7fe9ce213eef7a047","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qe77959f9ad513b4ae8a9","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":384,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-06T02:47:26.770Z","text":"你不懂的价值","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8c8189a46b2145e0a322","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe77959f9ad513b4ae8a9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c8189a46b2145e0a322","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q929d4d5d4a5da59be97a","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":385,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-06T02:48:59.396Z","text":"不止代理问题\n第三方客户代理律师 数据不是来自客户\n而是来自涉嫌共谋的联盟","edited":false,"reply_to":"q412a5d4e218d73279a60","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q929d4d5d4a5da59be97a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q412a5d4e218d73279a60","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q83bc9cda7edbde08e231","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":386,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-06T02:53:00.147Z","text":"如果是真的，那确实有问题。但是我不太清楚。如果谁明白这块儿，可以说明一下。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q929d4d5d4a5da59be97a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83bc9cda7edbde08e231","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q929d4d5d4a5da59be97a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qcf65017f3fc8aad489c3","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":387,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-06T02:55:13.275Z","text":"我没有填25年3月的那个表 不知道后续 是不是给了各个农场集中","edited":false,"reply_to":"q83bc9cda7edbde08e231","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf65017f3fc8aad489c3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83bc9cda7edbde08e231","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q1696857eacc0574a2ace","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":388,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-06T02:55:54.421Z","text":"盖尔和联盟农场应该有千丝万缕的关系","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1696857eacc0574a2ace","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qb87b1910cdef4968f328","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":389,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-06T03:05:27.984Z","text":"三票目前也开始洗脑\n要这6000人接受 853i 当“受害者”\n不要反对 检方（政府）没收\n（原版英文里 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😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc480b7d5b2f66a385a60","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qf3fd06b6429b2857146f","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":394,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-06T04:04:43.286Z","text":"就骂[删节：成员身份] 大[屏蔽词] 天天骂\n没文化还要天天X上显摆\n看看你填的盖尔的表 petition for remission \n分不清restitution / remission\n就是文盲 法盲 傻X还要强行装B\n被 青 盖尔 检方 合伙rape了还要强行喊高潮","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3fd06b6429b2857146f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q7633acbfcc0bb7608f18","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":395,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-06T04:08:14.604Z","text":"郭文贵律师的799 大量引用法案 就是被瑞恩 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啥都没干","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8bc5cdac985c603e63e5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qb3b0f645ef90d6165c84","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":398,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-06T04:09:58.796Z","text":"律师799引用的法案 完全就是感觉要比赛去的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb3b0f645ef90d6165c84","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qa63a96994ee7eb871e77","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":399,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-02-06T04:10:05.433Z","text":"即使那样，郭律师应该是采用了第三方/你们说的那些点","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8bc5cdac985c603e63e5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa63a96994ee7eb871e77","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8bc5cdac985c603e63e5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q959b1a0bc08941746078","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":400,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-06T04:10:31.755Z","text":"不 正好相反 律师啥都不敢采用","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa63a96994ee7eb871e77","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q959b1a0bc08941746078","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa63a96994ee7eb871e77","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000075","next_batch_id":"batch-000077"}