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528是螺丝哥的那个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2fa73c894a0cc8345ac9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qd9ead15078c150d17d21","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":835,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-07T08:09:51.765Z","text":"就是托雷斯说螺丝，还顺带说很多人给她写信她要报警，","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd9ead15078c150d17d21","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qf3af1dae47a88eb4f3e6","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":836,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-07T08:09:55.334Z","text":"我记得是","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3af1dae47a88eb4f3e6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q830842a7de72f729e2c6","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":837,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-07T08:16:42.025Z","text":"早就超期羁押了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1432e409f4507710d303","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q830842a7de72f729e2c6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1432e409f4507710d303","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q23cafd1ed263a9edda9a","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":838,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-02-07T08:27:49.987Z","text":"4月8号，听证会","edited":false,"reply_to":"q24dc40bd6c9bd3f79ccc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23cafd1ed263a9edda9a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q24dc40bd6c9bd3f79ccc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qbd3d7063a416b1aae1e1","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":839,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-07T08:57:07.432Z","text":"听说当初香草山随便拉群人组个群就能分几万十几万喜币","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf49e76948b063390fa11","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbd3d7063a416b1aae1e1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q27ca8e4e6017efc5860c","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":840,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-07T09:03:15.799Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]哭晕在厕所 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希望就越大","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86733988af7c58eb63d0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q631a4dd8c2cbabb5d70f","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":843,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-07T11:11:01.750Z","text":"有没有希望是天注定的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q631a4dd8c2cbabb5d70f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q8a585097502a190a4a86","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":844,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-07T11:11:29.269Z","text":"就和比特币一样 别人为什么能致富 你为什么不能","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a585097502a190a4a86","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qdf56ec1f8601dab4e515","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":845,"speaker":"siy***","date":"2026-02-07T14:49:35.337Z","text":"我想说现在你们了解的案件最新的状况是什么样的？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf56ec1f8601dab4e515","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q2b40317a27db377ac200","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":846,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-02-07T15:25:00.400Z","text":"这是我发的那个截图 四","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2fd0f3fa405ba4860c01","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b40317a27db377ac200","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qa517a506b02b7b44387c","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":847,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-07T15:44:24.126Z","text":"对的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2b40317a27db377ac200","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa517a506b02b7b44387c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b40317a27db377ac200","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qba6930adeb5f7a37cf07","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":848,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-02-07T16:41:54.840Z","text":"这话明显就不符合实际情况","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe23253f1be4c283cffd6","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba6930adeb5f7a37cf07","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qb91d0b2e258863e80f18","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":849,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-02-07T21:20:20.750Z","text":"看几张截图，也许你就知道了。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf6ef233a9afbf0f13119","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb91d0b2e258863e80f18","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q639711ffdd5407aca273","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":850,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-02-07T22:23:52.160Z","text":"第6个自诉发给南区，还是二巡或者更高级的法院","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb91d0b2e258863e80f18","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q639711ffdd5407aca273","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb91d0b2e258863e80f18","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qab96209c25697146ffb3","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":851,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-02-07T22:33:42.318Z","text":"南区","edited":false,"reply_to":"q639711ffdd5407aca273","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab96209c25697146ffb3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q639711ffdd5407aca273","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q84e50730455506b2a118","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":852,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-02-07T22:34:49.259Z","text":"盖尔的这个名单打开一个人也没有，是被隐藏了吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84e50730455506b2a118","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qd31329d21c0a32236c11","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":853,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-02-07T22:36:47.202Z","text":"我也准备继续给南区发，现在只能以cvra身份了吧。\n我还看到瑞恩白的强制令，被驳回了，这法院有点国内的感觉。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd31329d21c0a32236c11","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q935d40258dfa8d39b221","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":854,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-02-07T23:08:58.802Z","text":"强制令被驳回，太正常了。我的那个，也会驳回。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd31329d21c0a32236c11","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q935d40258dfa8d39b221","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd31329d21c0a32236c11","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q28b58c47aaf329047196","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":855,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-02-07T23:37:47.797Z","text":"在第二巡回法院（二巡），\n能被“立案（docketed）”，本身就是一种“司法正门已经打开”的标志。\n\n被驳回 ≠ 没意义\n没立案 ≠ 连门都没进去\n\n白冉月二巡被驳回，但立案本身就是好事，对吗？”\n👉 对，而且非常对。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd31329d21c0a32236c11","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q28b58c47aaf329047196","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd31329d21c0a32236c11","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q1507571cfafcd54101d3","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":856,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-02-07T23:37:50.970Z","text":"二、二巡对“强制令 / CVRA / 自诉”的真实分层\n\n很多人把“立案”“驳回”“赢”“输”混在一起，这是最大误区。\n\n① 二巡的三道门\n\n第一道门：能不能收件\n    •    技术性要求（管辖、身份、规则）\n    •    过不了 → 退件（returned），连 docket 都没有\n\n第二道门：是否立案（docketed）\n    •    Clerk 接收\n    •    分配编号\n    •    进入司法记录\n👉 这一步就是“走进司法正门”","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1507571cfafcd54101d3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qef6a2b6e350eb044e83d","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":857,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-02-07T23:38:05.417Z","text":"第三道门：法官是否给实质性救济\n    •    可能：\n    •    驳回（summary denial）\n    •    要求回应\n    •    给 limited relief\n    •    或最终胜诉\n\n📌 99% 的 mandamus 最终都会被驳回\n但只有极少数 能走到第二道门","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef6a2b6e350eb044e83d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q6ba0fc7558cdefc479d1","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":858,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-02-07T23:38:25.914Z","text":"三、为什么“立案”在二巡尤其重要？\n\n1️⃣ 二巡不是普通法院\n\n二巡是：\n    •    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扛不住了！","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10aebca9fc30d38b6b3b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qbb9803287f31d90c9a18","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":870,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-02-08T03:26:06.304Z","text":"不知道，但是一天出来两这个小弟很奇怪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb9803287f31d90c9a18","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q04244cefaa55b6a8dc1f","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":871,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-08T03:26:35.111Z","text":"肯定和联盟农场的提交证据也有关系","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbb9803287f31d90c9a18","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q04244cefaa55b6a8dc1f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb9803287f31d90c9a18","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q62a7c90f854926dc2a9e","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":872,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-08T03:29:53.158Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 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我怀疑是这样","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62a7c90f854926dc2a9e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q7c6ea945aed58b4f6ef3","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":873,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-08T03:30:08.838Z","text":"联盟污染老郭的证据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c6ea945aed58b4f6ef3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qb5ac1af164d87b63fb4f","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":874,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-08T03:30:17.853Z","text":"把老郭上诉的路掐断","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5ac1af164d87b63fb4f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q34b88fc20f31017c3143","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":875,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-08T03:30:30.915Z","text":"然后放消息","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q34b88fc20f31017c3143","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qd4a93e23cbd49a6b2297","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":876,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-08T03:30:35.055Z","text":"逼老郭接受特赦","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4a93e23cbd49a6b2297","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q4433efc540b0bdd7b8b5","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":877,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-08T03:31:22.571Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 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但这三种动机，没有一种是站在“对郭文贵最有利的法律路径”上的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1b0a08a97e6c074ac05","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qacf6a9901e6a554ad826","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":891,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-02-08T03:45:19.335Z","text":"https://x.com/maoshen/status/2020333080763138336?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qacf6a9901e6a554ad826","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q70d6eb751c364ec3c165","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":892,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-08T03:48:21.823Z","text":"瑞恩观察者分析： 因为第三方的行动导致司法程序无法进行 之前上边的人误判形势把资源都撤走 现在他们发现必须把资源再调回来 这个是他们要钱的行为","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70d6eb751c364ec3c165","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qda0472a7aaf96aa247c3","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":893,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-02-08T04:02:27.008Z","text":"如果郭先生要接受特赦，他就不需要延期了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda0472a7aaf96aa247c3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q5417df54e3d4b1d3a198","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":894,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-02-08T04:03:30.872Z","text":"为什么这个时候出这些言论， 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谁亏钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdee6851df504368362cc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q94a0ae88e06a4cb6c489","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":962,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-08T12:08:07.458Z","text":"这娘们第三次发了\n\nhttps://x.com/maoshen/status/2020320117322838444?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94a0ae88e06a4cb6c489","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q008b238d85eadbedd558","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":963,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-08T12:08:44.026Z","text":"还把郭跟炒币的混为一谈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q008b238d85eadbedd558","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q6657f68c959b520b5486","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":964,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-08T12:22:09.233Z","text":"币圈宠物也发了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6657f68c959b520b5486","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qb881e036dacd76a1c3dc","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":965,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-02-08T12:25:14.783Z","text":"https://x.com/anxiaodong777/status/2020436136343355651?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb881e036dacd76a1c3dc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q9cfb22228dfe7aecd0eb","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":966,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-02-08T12:25:26.613Z","text":"出来801了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9cfb22228dfe7aecd0eb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q8bfe49d5d911b45ff0dd","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":967,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-08T12:27:52.681Z","text":"800.801不是都有了吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8bfe49d5d911b45ff0dd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qa2a50504e141036bfd71","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":968,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-08T12:33:40.364Z","text":"是会议记录的事","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9cfb22228dfe7aecd0eb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa2a50504e141036bfd71","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9cfb22228dfe7aecd0eb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qbaf0dafad1c846214ae2","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":969,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-08T12:49:55.936Z","text":"对 应该还有倾风乐 阿哲们","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe551b340f44b0c1d93ff","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbaf0dafad1c846214ae2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe551b340f44b0c1d93ff","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q35771a5af511528b1054","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":970,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-02-08T13:41:42.816Z","text":"大家对801 反应很淡？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb881e036dacd76a1c3dc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35771a5af511528b1054","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb881e036dacd76a1c3dc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q4963a4d5f2f6fc57828c","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":971,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-02-08T13:42:14.098Z","text":"证人证词披露？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4963a4d5f2f6fc57828c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qf0a4c9a0d4058c60ea44","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":972,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-08T13:43:42.344Z","text":"别研究了 要特赦了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0a4c9a0d4058c60ea44","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qf436d250b11ff546fc93","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":973,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-02-08T14:15:12.052Z","text":"134个受害者陈述吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe551b340f44b0c1d93ff","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf436d250b11ff546fc93","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe551b340f44b0c1d93ff","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q7118a71a6fdd65dd335b","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":974,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2026-02-08T15:52:37.798Z","text":"信息很重要啊👍","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd2325102762e7182c3d7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7118a71a6fdd65dd335b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2325102762e7182c3d7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q859ba14288a0e932d910","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":975,"speaker":"202***","date":"2026-02-08T16:33:46.973Z","text":"https://gettr.com/gtok/p3x2rqk1b22","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q859ba14288a0e932d910","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q40a4f0e756b8ae9f0ecb","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":976,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-08T16:47:47.705Z","text":"啥信息啊，只是一个猜测而已，激动啥","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7118a71a6fdd65dd335b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40a4f0e756b8ae9f0ecb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7118a71a6fdd65dd335b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qc030bd3ff25520de79c1","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":977,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-08T16:53:48.674Z","text":"快回本了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc030bd3ff25520de79c1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q05250b1de2b242f62d19","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":978,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-02-08T16:58:10.586Z","text":"我花了几十刀在第一时间就买了这个文件，还弄了中文翻译，而且在5天内写完了我的第八个自诉。\n建议Himam 把这个会议记录挂出来\n[删节：隐私信息] [删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":"q9cfb22228dfe7aecd0eb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05250b1de2b242f62d19","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9cfb22228dfe7aecd0eb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q5c48bae82aeea4891665","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":979,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-08T17:52:27.720Z","text":"联盟要割最后一波韭菜跑路了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q859ba14288a0e932d910","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c48bae82aeea4891665","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q859ba14288a0e932d910","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q5719a26bca0920f84d6a","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":980,"speaker":"xia***","date":"2026-02-08T18:13:40.699Z","text":"这个时候传特赦就是想先贴标签，说不定是检方顶不住了想撤案呢，但是出来前先发动大外宣抹黑一轮","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5719a26bca0920f84d6a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q2f6c4c8e827455085807","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":981,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-08T18:15:53.257Z","text":"撤案绝不可能 特赦也绝不可能","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5719a26bca0920f84d6a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f6c4c8e827455085807","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5719a26bca0920f84d6a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qea66fe4d792a47802740","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":982,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-08T18:16:06.034Z","text":"这个案子最后只可能有三种情况","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea66fe4d792a47802740","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q3e89a26da065fddc6239","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":983,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-08T18:16:20.505Z","text":"1 最高法推翻 2 二巡推翻 3 老郭上诉推翻","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e89a26da065fddc6239","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q90eea86ce50462520fe0","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":984,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-08T18:17:01.176Z","text":"还有一种 发回重审推翻","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90eea86ce50462520fe0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q2f51f6d7ad4f01022059","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":985,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-08T18:18:09.350Z","text":"第1和第2种 很有可能是我们第三方打到二巡 最高法 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联盟到了跑路的时候","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5c48bae82aeea4891665","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe99218129d62a1515e48","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c48bae82aeea4891665","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q8be211aa086e01983d9c","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":987,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-08T18:56:31.042Z","text":"尤其是瑞恩下周对联盟的毁灭性文件","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8be211aa086e01983d9c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qed2f705e5f94d79f6359","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":988,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-02-08T20:09:17.753Z","text":"支持联盟的“战友”现在赶紧上、不要当怂包哈。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8be211aa086e01983d9c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed2f705e5f94d79f6359","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8be211aa086e01983d9c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q7f76d66197b5bb92d583","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":989,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-08T21:28:23.532Z","text":"这帮人往哪跑呢\n799里 就是郭对共谋的态度 追到底\n以郭的性子 不会主动特赦 除非检方撤案","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe99218129d62a1515e48","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f76d66197b5bb92d583","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe99218129d62a1515e48","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q72bfeef3bfb3f2468b64","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":990,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-08T21:38:18.579Z","text":"但是破产案 刑事案里\n债权人登记 原始受害者 卖Mahwah\n是绕不过去的污点 没人愿意顶锅\n这就尴尬了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72bfeef3bfb3f2468b64","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q831e379f6449a9f53688","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":991,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-02-08T21:38:42.288Z","text":"这帮家伙自己玩不下去了，还想让郭先放弃，它们好找台阶下。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q831e379f6449a9f53688","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qfd0beb8b5e9d0b82153c","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":992,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-08T21:46:31.751Z","text":"其实还有一个方案 就是检方和郭商量 案子重审 把这些洗钱做假证的共谋 rico进去 个方面好有个交代 青们 就是替死鬼","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd0beb8b5e9d0b82153c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qfbe8334a580a5ac43407","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":993,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-08T21:47:13.825Z","text":"检方不可能重申 重申检方面子丢尽","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfd0beb8b5e9d0b82153c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfbe8334a580a5ac43407","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd0beb8b5e9d0b82153c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q983e3c97f79ec4d0afe0","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":994,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-08T21:48:18.639Z","text":"找好替罪羊就可以","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfbe8334a580a5ac43407","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q983e3c97f79ec4d0afe0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfbe8334a580a5ac43407","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"qa6680cefafa5f97fa572","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":995,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-08T21:48:41.451Z","text":"卖Mahwah是他们毁证据的表现 回不了头了\n或者认 或者找人背锅 比如鸟 luc","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfbe8334a580a5ac43407","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6680cefafa5f97fa572","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfbe8334a580a5ac43407","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q99d748d40c84f164ce7b","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":996,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-08T21:48:51.607Z","text":"比如luc 当然要看检方得不得罪的起普恒","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99d748d40c84f164ce7b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076"},{"id":"q2c2fff46f6b965669c2b","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":997,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-08T21:49:17.968Z","text":"这个事情已经不可能体面收场了 现在唯一的方法是二巡 最高法 直接下令 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