{"id":"batch-000077","number":77,"revision":2,"date_start":"2026-02-08T21:52:33.213Z","date_end":"2026-02-14T09:28:22.813Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 077 (Feb 8, 2026 – Feb 14, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Discussions continue to oscillate between procedural developments and public narratives concerning the underlying case. Participants dispute whether the prosecution seeks de-escalation, examine Second Circuit injunction strategies, and clash over Section 853 versus remission procedures alongside MDC deadlines. Sharp divisions persist regarding alleged collusion between old and new alliances, victim standing, and restitution representation. 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是你的事情","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf581e594ae54d98684b3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qb0ea075a9fac373bd159","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":403,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-02-10T23:34:47.813Z","text":"郭先生回家后揭晓","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0ea075a9fac373bd159","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q8775f5d71fb959de09f4","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":404,"speaker":"mas***","date":"2026-02-10T23:36:51.782Z","text":"现在看视频都不敢相信是真的，因为AI太厉害了，完全以假乱真","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8775f5d71fb959de09f4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q4ecde8b8e117e9037d7b","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":405,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-10T23:36:57.760Z","text":"不用管她是不是郭美, 你就看她说的是不是真话","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ecde8b8e117e9037d7b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q9ac1a613cb7176ccd82d","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":406,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-10T23:37:24.765Z","text":"郭美说假话，也不代表郭文贵啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ac1a613cb7176ccd82d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q7635465f2c3a191c9097","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":407,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-10T23:38:34.486Z","text":"https://x.com/testurheart/status/2021368089917481325?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7635465f2c3a191c9097","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qe3f7dd9e402d48f4353c","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":408,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-10T23:42:50.794Z","text":"tdcccp 最多就是干扰司法 量刑 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哈哈","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q695b170cb136d5fb1f3f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q2781b5b5b00b5835dc22","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":453,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T04:05:18.931Z","text":"瑞恩确实没有用853","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3e9b2cd7828737de9210","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2781b5b5b00b5835dc22","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e9b2cd7828737de9210","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q0baebfff050b7527590d","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":454,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-11T04:07:49.686Z","text":"灭共演员那些[屏蔽词]，它们的行为从它们把被告吹捧成神，天天说g系列如何如何值钱，然后到后面的组织虚假债权登记，组织向本案资金索赔，到用虚假陈述宣传TDCCP，这一切都是打着被告的旗号，是一个完整的rico诈骗闭环。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0baebfff050b7527590d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qafe38d4c5222827dfc0f","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":455,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-11T04:14:49.008Z","text":"只要大家持续不断努力，检方叙事就从被告组织灭共演员诈骗变成灭共演员被组织起来打着被告的旗号诈骗，灭共演员被谁组织起来？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qafe38d4c5222827dfc0f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q540167109072aee2a79d","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":456,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T05:03:59.266Z","text":"身份混淆+骚操作","edited":false,"reply_to":"q002ea84564f338323b4f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q540167109072aee2a79d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q002ea84564f338323b4f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q3db77dc505e20d711d87","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":457,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T05:08:10.824Z","text":"［用户 him***］  ［用户 roy***］  ［用户 chu***］   https://gettr.com/post/p3x63y7bca3  这个说的是瑞恩的文件吗 哈哈哈哈","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3db77dc505e20d711d87","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qab55cf55729db22def2d","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":458,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T05:09:14.580Z","text":"爸爸和我从最近的实事聊起，也聊到了最近飘在各个平台上的“拙略的虚假视频、AI造假、挑拨离间”的所谓新闻。期间我猛然发觉这样的造谣和抹黑已经在我们的生活中进行了十年，一路上有战友们相伴，我们一起练就了大心脏，慧眼识破谎言，越来越团结、聚力！感谢战友们💙","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab55cf55729db22def2d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qe22850c317af4974008e","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":459,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T05:09:29.947Z","text":"这已经说明内容是瞎编的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qab55cf55729db22def2d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe22850c317af4974008e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab55cf55729db22def2d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qfcb8b87a55f47032cd9d","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":460,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T05:10:42.175Z","text":"瑞恩的文件 是周二早上上去的 东部时间 就是最早也要大概八点多","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfcb8b87a55f47032cd9d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q73f92dfc2cdbcb477517","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":461,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T05:11:29.650Z","text":"假设他们见面是中午12点到3点","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73f92dfc2cdbcb477517","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q89bb8b6c58a8ffc179ab","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":462,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T05:11:48.923Z","text":"他说了 是“爸爸”主动说起","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q89bb8b6c58a8ffc179ab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q4364e1945e3d90e154d0","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":463,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T05:12:24.779Z","text":"那么也就是说 郭文贵在mdc当中 短短4-7小时之内 看到了瑞恩的二巡文件","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4364e1945e3d90e154d0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q4a9125dca858271f32c8","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":464,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T05:12:48.264Z","text":"这说明 要么郭文贵在监狱里随时可以上网看黄片","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a9125dca858271f32c8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qee15b118d29186f2e058","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":465,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T05:13:22.509Z","text":"要么郭文贵派人随时盯着瑞恩的docket 有文件给他汇报","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee15b118d29186f2e058","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qd3992c9430582417cf94","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":466,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T05:16:19.113Z","text":"我看了瑞恩的docket 是9:39am","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3992c9430582417cf94","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q6baa6ea501f47501cbdf","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":467,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T05:16:40.301Z","text":"不知道pacer显示的是东部时间 还是西部时间","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6baa6ea501f47501cbdf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q964181566bdf6f39d793","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":468,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T05:16:55.492Z","text":"如果是西部时间 那么郭美做实了说谎","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q964181566bdf6f39d793","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q8c471eac81b943d3231a","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":469,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T05:18:07.083Z","text":"我查了 是东部时间","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c471eac81b943d3231a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qe418a604cf2e84f79b3e","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":470,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T05:18:47.267Z","text":"也就是说 郭文贵需要在东部早上9点39分  到和“郭美”相见之前 阅读完瑞恩的法庭文件","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe418a604cf2e84f79b3e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q87cabedc81dff8fc4a0d","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":471,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-02-11T05:19:26.850Z","text":"那些傻子们就喜欢听“权威”，不会听分析的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q73f92dfc2cdbcb477517","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87cabedc81dff8fc4a0d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73f92dfc2cdbcb477517","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q0628fc9dfb1bd62984ae","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":472,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-11T05:20:01.075Z","text":"二巡的强制令立案之后，都裁决了，都可以一直往案件里发文件？什么时候强制令案件才会关闭？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0628fc9dfb1bd62984ae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q9e5dbaa3154a9bec8372","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":473,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T05:21:32.181Z","text":"只要立案你就可以一直在里面写程序性观察的文件","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0628fc9dfb1bd62984ae","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e5dbaa3154a9bec8372","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0628fc9dfb1bd62984ae","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qbdb080f2f8944b2d3b89","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":474,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T05:21:38.969Z","text":"这就是二巡最牛逼之处","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbdb080f2f8944b2d3b89","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q19880b14723149746a24","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":475,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T05:21:54.129Z","text":"而且这些文件都会成为未来程序的重要文件","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19880b14723149746a24","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q7f7383d6e0a39fe514fd","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":476,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T05:22:01.746Z","text":"当然你只能写观察 记录","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f7383d6e0a39fe514fd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q17c9effcb288c5581173","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":477,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-02-11T05:23:50.142Z","text":"那你可以把法官切断听电话渠道的事情记录进去。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbdb080f2f8944b2d3b89","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17c9effcb288c5581173","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbdb080f2f8944b2d3b89","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qd212272a1257847052ae","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":478,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-11T05:24:30.532Z","text":"是因为without prejudice，才会这样，还是无论怎样裁决，都允许这样？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q19880b14723149746a24","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd212272a1257847052ae","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19880b14723149746a24","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qb35936e866e59790fcad","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":479,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T05:32:40.598Z","text":"也是可以的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q17c9effcb288c5581173","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb35936e866e59790fcad","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17c9effcb288c5581173","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q11a76160f9c3e50d12b7","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":480,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T05:32:51.717Z","text":"without 就是 下一次允许再来","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd212272a1257847052ae","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11a76160f9c3e50d12b7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd212272a1257847052ae","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q37192f4fab981598c49e","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":481,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T05:32:56.585Z","text":"with 就是 不能来了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37192f4fab981598c49e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qdc845a72872a2fc01c96","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":482,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T05:33:00.231Z","text":"永远没机会了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc845a72872a2fc01c96","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q1ba473037d04fd8ff31f","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":483,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-11T05:57:41.714Z","text":"他们就是玩儿闭环\n叙事都是他们说了算 代表被告 配合检方 代表受害者\n普通人 除了自诉 没有任何发声渠道","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0baebfff050b7527590d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ba473037d04fd8ff31f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0baebfff050b7527590d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q4dbd0b22d02850bff497","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":484,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-11T05:59:15.637Z","text":"有docket就类似有一个新的序列号 子文件夹 在里面说什么 都会有记录","edited":false,"reply_to":"q19880b14723149746a24","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4dbd0b22d02850bff497","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19880b14723149746a24","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q7fd3416c0f53c6451571","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":485,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T05:59:33.453Z","text":"是的 二巡的docket 非常的无敌","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4dbd0b22d02850bff497","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fd3416c0f53c6451571","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4dbd0b22d02850bff497","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q226687d11bcb78961bf5","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":486,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-11T06:00:45.062Z","text":"所以他们拼死打压自诉 二巡\n不让不同的声音 上法庭","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7fd3416c0f53c6451571","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q226687d11bcb78961bf5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fd3416c0f53c6451571","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qe52d2e67a51e538c8ceb","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":487,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T06:01:09.447Z","text":"对的 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傻子才信","edited":true,"reply_to":"qe52d2e67a51e538c8ceb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1897a5bd2e212f581ffb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe52d2e67a51e538c8ceb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q6fd10e1275f995524573","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":489,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-11T06:10:01.419Z","text":"Musk Bannon吵吵闹闹 指不定和musk Trump之前互骂 是演双簧 继续把Epstein file往深水去挖 再引向司法部 纽约南区法院 \n看戏就好 认真了 就成了棋子","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7a8b87bc7558de6f4bb6","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6fd10e1275f995524573","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q6addad0f0fa9ae710907","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":490,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-11T06:10:46.213Z","text":"那拖累斯还拖什么拖，让案件的荒唐被二巡记录得更多一些吗？！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6addad0f0fa9ae710907","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qf75d31d554329f6ca482","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":491,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-11T06:12:23.715Z","text":"他上任的法官 和检方 Luc 一起卖Mahwah的事儿 没法圆\n他不想接这个锅 出工不出力 耗着等人来破局\n即使看破 他也不会说","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6addad0f0fa9ae710907","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf75d31d554329f6ca482","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6addad0f0fa9ae710907","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qe40a5467107466680c5f","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":492,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-11T06:13:41.982Z","text":"这个案子一开始就是她。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf75d31d554329f6ca482","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe40a5467107466680c5f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf75d31d554329f6ca482","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qa34becc862b5a1c86a38","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":493,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-11T06:16:38.595Z","text":"那她就惨了 会被架在火上烤","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe40a5467107466680c5f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa34becc862b5a1c86a38","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe40a5467107466680c5f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q912acd7c84b120515a52","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":494,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-11T06:18:17.748Z","text":"卖mahwah是破产法庭那边批准的？南区这边我没看到批准。还是luc擅自卖的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa34becc862b5a1c86a38","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q912acd7c84b120515a52","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa34becc862b5a1c86a38","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q065f7c090419c326ec6a","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":495,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-11T06:20:57.517Z","text":"要么是Luc造假 忽悠破产案那边和刑事案这边\n要么是破产案 刑事案的 法官 都有渎职 不去验证Luc提供的证据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q065f7c090419c326ec6a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q435e9dee7b4304a7430b","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":496,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-11T06:25:36.133Z","text":"这还是没有讲清楚，谁卖的？有没有走完正当程序？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q435e9dee7b4304a7430b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q91523451f2665db98eb8","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":497,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-11T06:26:54.911Z","text":"Luc啊\n程序已经走完 已经卖了\n但是里面有造假啊 Mahwah的产权 只涉及刑事案 和破产案无关 要等定罪后开启没收 才能出售\n他们这个事已经干了 没法回头 所以法官检方 都不让Luc出庭","edited":false,"reply_to":"q435e9dee7b4304a7430b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91523451f2665db98eb8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q435e9dee7b4304a7430b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qa98a7bb296c7f761012e","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":498,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-11T06:29:00.931Z","text":"托管人被允许获取出售权，被谁允许？曼宁，托雷斯，司法部？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q91523451f2665db98eb8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa98a7bb296c7f761012e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91523451f2665db98eb8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q39bc80eb6004d2fbf860","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":499,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-11T06:31:01.554Z","text":"理论上，一旦因为刑事案件被冻结查封的财产，需要刑事案法官批准才能动。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39bc80eb6004d2fbf860","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q01154e1c9473282ddc23","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":500,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-11T06:32:14.208Z","text":"难道托雷斯也是个法盲，乱球批准。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01154e1c9473282ddc23","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q0c5cd44888f6d814f7e6","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":501,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-11T06:33:01.944Z","text":"Luc演双簧\n先在刑事案那边 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怕被戳穿谎言","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1bedc16e87469a233bfc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q16a66d125547543e37dd","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":503,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-11T06:40:18.184Z","text":"这个luc，一共花出去6000多万，不知吃得了多少回扣，可以把事情干成这个样子。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16a66d125547543e37dd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qa45f190da39b2fe8e3ec","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":504,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-11T06:43:48.220Z","text":"他还是破产案登记虚假债权人\n拱卒在刑事案报案 却在郭的个人破产案登记 Luc明知是假的 还接受了\n明摆着是演 而且已经设计好了 刑事案破产案会并案处理 刑事案的没收资产 最终优先分给破产案的债权人 他的老东家PAG","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa45f190da39b2fe8e3ec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q193d9df75422a53ff834","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":505,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-11T06:50:19.953Z","text":"还是没有反应出来到底有没有某个法庭的批准，如果没有被法庭批准，程序上都卖不出去，不知道luc是怎么卖出去的。破产案那边有很多诡异的事情，luc在破产庭指控被告违反禁制令，而那个禁制令法庭文件，就是在网上搜不到，我现在都没有看到那个禁制令是什么内容，违反禁制令是怎么个违反法。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q193d9df75422a53ff834","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q28fc229fe5e91648f30a","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":506,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T06:55:49.040Z","text":"禁制令在破产案的子案","edited":false,"reply_to":"q193d9df75422a53ff834","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q28fc229fe5e91648f30a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q193d9df75422a53ff834","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q90f3616f1fd6d9635021","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":507,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T06:55:50.752Z","text":"确实有","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90f3616f1fd6d9635021","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qfc0dadd9c218f886369b","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":508,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T06:56:07.379Z","text":"但唯独 鼓动债权人登记 是不是禁制令内容","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc0dadd9c218f886369b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qd528f236cd58e94f8dbf","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":509,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T06:56:17.444Z","text":"这个 是争议的焦点","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd528f236cd58e94f8dbf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q0caa38102fe7f5c98338","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":510,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-02-11T06:56:35.258Z","text":"瞒脸长痘痘、皮笑肉不笑的专业律师张勇兵这下被一个非律师专业的瑞恩写进美国法庭文件、被打暴了、死球球了。还有魔女，所有出现在25-2726_34上的人都被钉在历史的耻辱柱上了。😂\n它们就是杀了瑞恩也不解决问题。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0caa38102fe7f5c98338","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qb8b710cd41212da10590","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":511,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T06:56:43.860Z","text":"luc拼命要把鼓动债权人登记 列为禁制令 但曼宁这个鸡贼法官 死活不肯","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb8b710cd41212da10590","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q0e78e038b8429868248d","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":512,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-11T06:56:44.922Z","text":"破产法庭 批准Luc做受托人 可以处置 郭名下资产 \n刑事案 Luc造假证据 指认Mahwah属于郭个人资产 然后和检方签和解协议 法官也同意了\n然后Luc拿刑事案的协议 去破产案 申请禁制令\nLuc是故意钻空子的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e78e038b8429868248d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q3957278db18126808457","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":513,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T06:57:08.658Z","text":"用事实 打不掉他们","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0e78e038b8429868248d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3957278db18126808457","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e78e038b8429868248d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q9e13a5d9dae32fccfcd7","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":514,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T06:57:51.986Z","text":"只能用司法把他们的定义全部根除","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e13a5d9dae32fccfcd7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q13ae1f2c7880cf8b4d6e","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":515,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-11T06:57:55.495Z","text":"两边法官其实心里都明白\n知道Luc是钻空子","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3957278db18126808457","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13ae1f2c7880cf8b4d6e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3957278db18126808457","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qa0cf4a059a7f74e54483","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":516,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T06:58:00.358Z","text":"司法欺诈 luc 检方 全部滚犊子","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0cf4a059a7f74e54483","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q9baa1f551283669bd52f","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":517,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T06:58:15.664Z","text":"法官偏见 法官和滚犊子","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9baa1f551283669bd52f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q7aea751ad14b264166d8","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":518,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T06:58:29.107Z","text":"就这么简单","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7aea751ad14b264166d8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q9c2f6f50f1f1a83e7841","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":519,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T06:58:37.903Z","text":"用细节打不掉他们","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c2f6f50f1f1a83e7841","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qb36a776714e34881f0d4","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":520,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T06:58:49.420Z","text":"让他们全滚犊子 才行","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb36a776714e34881f0d4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q26834cdeb58bec2cb163","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":521,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T06:59:02.491Z","text":"现在二巡说了 司法欺诈 量刑后再来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26834cdeb58bec2cb163","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q94b2888193869a27e8aa","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":522,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-11T06:59:06.156Z","text":"逼着法官把Luc卖了\n检方把青藤卖了\n都有个交代 面子也保住","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa0cf4a059a7f74e54483","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94b2888193869a27e8aa","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0cf4a059a7f74e54483","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q3954e346224af4dfcffe","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":523,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T07:00:06.987Z","text":"检方已经把luc卖了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q94b2888193869a27e8aa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3954e346224af4dfcffe","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94b2888193869a27e8aa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q565ccd3aedeba85320c9","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":524,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T07:00:25.363Z","text":"luc什么时候卖拱卒","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q565ccd3aedeba85320c9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q17186f3dfcf2050560f1","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":525,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T07:00:27.320Z","text":"时间问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17186f3dfcf2050560f1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q22cb4d1c1b95c89e7c4d","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":526,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-11T07:00:48.639Z","text":"这么说 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就没了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3b28daf8b82d4cbf648c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q049b8682d17ec679166f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b28daf8b82d4cbf648c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qf0c78ec75bfb3e4ffea7","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":529,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-11T07:03:19.113Z","text":"检方几个证人 那是演员 做伪证的\n刑事案还立个鸟\n立 可以 洗钱的共谋 都要进去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0c78ec75bfb3e4ffea7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q208d97aa6930a3a517c9","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":530,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T07:11:13.417Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q208d97aa6930a3a517c9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q07bf544e25a759a86a7e","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":531,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-11T07:14:32.851Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]的视频 做不下去了\n还没明白 他其实怎么做 都是帮倒忙","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07bf544e25a759a86a7e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q63669488e8e51ce4a61c","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":532,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T07:16:22.168Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]帮忙很多","edited":true,"reply_to":"q07bf544e25a759a86a7e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63669488e8e51ce4a61c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07bf544e25a759a86a7e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q18556f98c253f2fe68a1","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":533,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-11T07:16:52.295Z","text":"哪天他想明白了 怕会打自己的脸","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18556f98c253f2fe68a1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q62fd146b00856d7f151f","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":534,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-11T07:23:34.943Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]除了螺丝哥 和谁都能骂架\n最近和羊帮 又干上了\nhttps://x.com/ddivul8m3g82864/status/2021152926299767220?s=46","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62fd146b00856d7f151f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q1af827efb079558290ab","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":535,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-11T07:32:17.979Z","text":"这两个卧龙凤雏 确实智商是硬伤\n致命一击 好大力 商增定律 到底谁是谁🤣 \nhttps://x.com/yihuzhuojiula/status/2021486394926154215?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1af827efb079558290ab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qcd2a59dbd524007a9d11","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":536,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-11T07:38:51.617Z","text":"吵架是他们活下去的动力","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1af827efb079558290ab","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd2a59dbd524007a9d11","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1af827efb079558290ab","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qbe77901878947c520987","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":537,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-11T07:45:01.230Z","text":"商增定律 （文悦）是致命一击的朋友\n那 好大力 就是他一个人？\n我也懵了🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe77901878947c520987","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q4e7ce3cb988dd9d951f6","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":538,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-11T07:47:58.252Z","text":"习近平说 我就这么干了 你能[删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e7ce3cb988dd9d951f6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q000d86611c98ab8b91f7","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":539,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-11T07:53:18.411Z","text":"那个禁制令法庭文件很有作用，从破产案附属对抗程序Case 22-05032里的文件128,133里的内容来看（这个禁制令是文件134），其内容很可能有：禁止债务人发布关于债权人的诽谤和虚假信息（如果确实有这样的内容，可能违反言论自由，这个禁制令本身可能违宪）。被告在23年1月23日的直播中谈了债权人登记的事情，luc在破产法庭指控其违反禁制令，在文件1418里甚至把英文认证翻译都展示出来，意思就是拱卒的债权是真的，被告这是在诽谤债权人，违反禁制令。然后破产庭法官一直没有批准，在文件2274里，luc撤销指控。如果拱卒的债权是真的，被告就是妥妥地违反禁制令，妨碍司法，曼宁就会批准，luc也不会撤销指控。现在这个文件在网络上被雪藏了，这本身就是问题。如果找到这个文件，再把对应的论证记录南区或者二巡，会完美补充司法欺诈的最重要一环。虽然这不能直接证明拱卒债权的虚假，但至少是间接证明。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q000d86611c98ab8b91f7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qcd35e6446c3e9907ec96","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":540,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T07:54:29.246Z","text":"你看733里面有写 luc有一个动议是让曼宁把鼓动债权人登记列为禁制令","edited":false,"reply_to":"q000d86611c98ab8b91f7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd35e6446c3e9907ec96","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q000d86611c98ab8b91f7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qd154fc388c86f3d2c82c","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":541,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T07:54:41.678Z","text":"但是那个动议一直没有被批准 最后被永久搁置","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd154fc388c86f3d2c82c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q18b3085f8c09b2959920","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":542,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T07:54:48.054Z","text":"曼宁死活都没批准","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18b3085f8c09b2959920","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qdfd745cdc5590a192c72","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":543,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T07:54:49.305Z","text":"为什么？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdfd745cdc5590a192c72","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qd2d588dc5a24f15b4601","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":544,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-11T07:55:00.700Z","text":"就是这意思啊 禁制令 是命门\n撤销 就是怂 但留了司法痕迹","edited":false,"reply_to":"q000d86611c98ab8b91f7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2d588dc5a24f15b4601","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q000d86611c98ab8b91f7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q5a299c9ea83b68248b09","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":545,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T07:55:00.780Z","text":"如果曼宁批准了 曼宁变成司法欺诈的源头","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a299c9ea83b68248b09","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q78a4cd03ffa93fbea1d0","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":546,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-11T07:55:31.394Z","text":"对 没法甩全锅给Luc\n法官也是装糊涂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5a299c9ea83b68248b09","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78a4cd03ffa93fbea1d0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a299c9ea83b68248b09","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qc8cf80f4b6b38a83f230","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":547,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-11T07:55:48.533Z","text":"像这种感觉是人在说话的，现在基本都在电诈园。看上去机械重复的，基本就是自动化脚本，现在可能是ai。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8cf80f4b6b38a83f230","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qaed076ed295b1fae6759","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":548,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T07:55:51.438Z","text":"曼宁是最鸡贼的 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检方 辩方 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已经被曼宁卖了\n就看托雷斯怎么办","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb70e02971554835a3cfb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qcb468fb9ae5822afef34","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":580,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T08:07:23.354Z","text":"还真不是曼宁主动想卖","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb468fb9ae5822afef34","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q2053bb7da466f9dab68d","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":581,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T08:07:31.770Z","text":"是曼宁说 臣妾做不到😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2053bb7da466f9dab68d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qd27ae26d40273875fbf1","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":582,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-11T08:07:50.733Z","text":"Luc 想 霸王硬上弓","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd27ae26d40273875fbf1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q4079c1dc2efbd3a05ae1","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":583,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T08:07:55.253Z","text":"这么大的锅想曼宁背 怎么可能","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4079c1dc2efbd3a05ae1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qe2282bdde206855a7bbd","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":584,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-11T08:08:41.356Z","text":"那就正好 Luc 把部分锅 卖给共谋们 拱卒","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2282bdde206855a7bbd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qa252b5396910c867bfc7","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":585,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T08:10:16.099Z","text":"最后这个案子 人头落地的一定是拱卒 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滥用司法的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c6760c829c3a65aabba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q496b7d35d90ed92754f1","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":588,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-11T08:12:35.884Z","text":"大可能先被上线灭口\n青 AVA也跑不了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa252b5396910c867bfc7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q496b7d35d90ed92754f1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa252b5396910c867bfc7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qad68b1fa8e45157b8ee5","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":589,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-11T08:14:17.709Z","text":"不知道英文版怎么组织的语言，在中文版看来，并没有论证出luc的债权明显虚假，就是没有论证到如果拱卒的债权是真的，被告那是在违反禁制令，妨碍司法，法官应该批准，luc不应该撤销，法官长时间没有批准加上luc最后撤销，反过来可以证明拱卒的债权有问题。把那个禁制令文件134找出来再配上精准细致的论述，效果还是不一样的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5158e9f9de950c69c8de","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad68b1fa8e45157b8ee5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5158e9f9de950c69c8de","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qe3a352f85aafc22f0dcd","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":590,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T08:14:38.555Z","text":"不用论真假","edited":false,"reply_to":"qad68b1fa8e45157b8ee5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3a352f85aafc22f0dcd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad68b1fa8e45157b8ee5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qe1167f8eb1f8f1f1979d","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":591,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T08:14:50.353Z","text":"你只需提出有程序问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1167f8eb1f8f1f1979d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q6ceefb400b5de3ca3061","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":592,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T08:14:57.023Z","text":"让他们法庭自己去论真假","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ceefb400b5de3ca3061","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q1aca38599517be70970b","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":593,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T08:15:11.401Z","text":"法庭忌讳的东西就是论真假","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1aca38599517be70970b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qb189adbafec00be8cb2c","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":594,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T08:15:22.150Z","text":"你就算知道拱卒是假的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb189adbafec00be8cb2c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q9944887a183d181ae611","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":595,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T08:15:28.825Z","text":"也不能直接说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9944887a183d181ae611","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"q1a27be4882b50fa59a94","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":596,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T08:16:13.701Z","text":"事实是郭文贵说的很明显 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有争议","edited":false,"reply_to":"qba8c438d254208978f55","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1f61a25751a315741ff","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba8c438d254208978f55","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qa8bb4b38eeec00632c5c","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":599,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T08:16:37.259Z","text":"不要直接下结论","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8bb4b38eeec00632c5c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"},{"id":"qb38344ad107c876a8ba1","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":600,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T08:17:25.432Z","text":"733直接引用了郭文贵的视频","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb38344ad107c876a8ba1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000076","next_batch_id":"batch-000078"}