{"id":"batch-000078","number":78,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-02-14T09:31:58.691Z","date_end":"2026-02-17T00:16:49.650Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 078 (Feb 14, 2026 – Feb 17, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. From Feb 14–17, 2026, the Guo thread moved from moderation fights to legal arguments. Participants debated §853(n) versus 853i, Rule 60 timing, and whether hearings should precede sentencing or forfeiture. They disputed victim status, the 6000-group claims tied to Gail, and whether third-party claims tied to ECF No. 785’s 134/238 submissions have standing. They also contested if criminal rulings carry to bankruptcy, including references to case 671 and Wang Yanping. Community statements, not court findings. Community statements, not court findings.","guide_en":[{"title":"Order first: moderation reset through muting, relocation, and removal","description":"Participants argued that stricter chat rules were used to curb spam and off-topic drift, and contended that warning, muting, and relocation tools were central to keeping discussion bounded. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q9abb96a484eeb75f889b","q729781328d3e19693d4c","q5706d33211725b292b17"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q9abb96a484eeb75f889b","summary_en":"him*** posted a second warning asking members not to flood the room with useless comments, framing repeated noise as behavior to stop. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q729781328d3e19693d4c","summary_en":"him*** published discussion rules limiting the main chat to case topics, setting escalation steps for repeated off-topic posting and barring unsupported accusations such as targeted labeling. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q5706d33211725b292b17","summary_en":"Sap*** observed that a member exited the thread without being muted or having posts removed and expressed concern for them. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"§853(n), Rule 60, and hearing sequence: timing and case-order disputes","description":"Participants claimed the process dispute centered on sequencing and procedural form—whether §853(n) should be heard at all, how Rule 60 concepts fit, and whether strict hearing timing exists. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q0e9ce3149448f7305ed5","q42ab387900dce0190dc9","q87d94dc7c3c1b62c64ea"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q0e9ce3149448f7305ed5","summary_en":"Chu*** cited court filings reflected about 134 §853(n) claims and about 238 §853 claims, with possible overlap, and said the government argued they should be handled as standing issues via a magistrate process rather than ordinary 853(n) litigation; remission was raised in that framing. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q42ab387900dce0190dc9","summary_en":"him*** asked directly whether a 30-day deadline applies to §853n hearing timing. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q87d94dc7c3c1b62c64ea","summary_en":"reb*** argued that the government and defense had filed written submissions, factual disputes remained, and the judge’s delay in ruling could be seen as extending 853-related hearing scheduling beyond what some expected. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Victim-status disputes: recovery rights, 6000-person claims, and conviction links","description":"Participants disputed who qualifies as a victim versus other actors, with repeated arguments over whether broader claimant groups and Gail-related ties can sustain restitution or return claims. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q4d8acdbea3f98bb1e00b","qa67f8f2fb72cbcce7f1d","q51107040f6a98c31887b"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q4d8acdbea3f98bb1e00b","summary_en":"him*** challenged whether a person like 青藤 fits the role of victim or should be considered a conspirator, asserting only victims, defendant, and conspirators should be recognized in that framework. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qa67f8f2fb72cbcce7f1d","summary_en":"him*** asked if, absent a third-party disclosure of Gail’s contract, the court would still treat 6000 people as victims. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q51107040f6a98c31887b","summary_en":"joh*** cited the prosecution’s ECF No. 785 framing that the 6000 group should not be treated as victims and suggested the government is also distancing itself from Gail. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Identity and speaking status conflicts: courtroom exchanges involving QingTeng, Ryan, and others","description":"Participants claimed identity and testimonial eligibility were contested, using hearing statements to dispute who could claim injury and which participants were speaking within their claimed role. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q63a8209ae1b66af310c8","q1fc6411e79674a7e6585","q53895bd03f039d4a73be"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q63a8209ae1b66af310c8","summary_en":"him*** reported that QingTeng was registered but denied being harmed by Wang Yanping when asked by the judge. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q1fc6411e79674a7e6585","summary_en":"him*** echoed the courtroom exchange where the judge concluded that such a denial meant QingTeng was not a victim. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q53895bd03f039d4a73be","summary_en":"him*** relayed Solomon’s statement during a dispute with Ryan, emphasizing Solomon’s claimed strong faith in the U.S. justice system. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Forfeiture chain speculation: roles, transfer sequence, and beneficiary hierarchy","description":"Participants argued over the implied forfeiture chain, contending that the identities and timing of returns among three defendants, third parties, and outsiders remain uncertain. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q92b62052429db947150b","qf8611cbc25f47c6d58bd","q7cae64de4d9a02fc2897"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q92b62052429db947150b","summary_en":"joh*** argued that key focus seemed fixed on three defendants—Yu, Guo, and Wang—while others like 鸟 and 青 were being sidelined, and pointed to this as notable. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf8611cbc25f47c6d58bd","summary_en":"ntp*** questioned the source credibility of transfer allegations, saying no one appeared to have seen the transfer evidence. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q7cae64de4d9a02fc2897","summary_en":"ntp*** summarized the argument as exhaustion and pressure tactics against third parties in the process. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Evidence boundaries and compliance concerns with external posts, videos, and records","description":"Participants disputed the evidentiary reliability of social posts, hearing videos, and written records, arguing that publication choices, privacy masking, and source consistency were major validity issues. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qec70b9a65228f51b64c7","q511dcb3c62c50e773e3b","q15ca551c447a7cb1a85c"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qec70b9a65228f51b64c7","summary_en":"joh*** posted an external social link and used it to challenge participant behavior, reflecting reliance on non-official material as discussion evidence. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q511dcb3c62c50e773e3b","summary_en":"kir*** reported that Ryan’s address had been publicly posted and noted this with identifying redaction indicators. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q15ca551c447a7cb1a85c","summary_en":"him*** questioned whether unredacted publication was intentional and argued that lack of masking could violate CVRA-like safeguards. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Justice narratives split into retaliation, interference, and political delay claims","description":"Participants contended that legal events were being interpreted through competing narratives of retaliation and political strategy, while disputing whether those narratives matched verifiable proof. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qde7166883d9020af8e22","q8ce27ae34d8bd7b14bfe","q933781f35e091d04c4c0"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qde7166883d9020af8e22","summary_en":"kir*** claimed a supplemental order involving Ryan documented Torres retaliating against a victim. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q8ce27ae34d8bd7b14bfe","summary_en":"him*** asked why retaliation occurred, signaling a direct challenge to official neutrality claims. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q933781f35e091d04c4c0","summary_en":"joh*** asserted that a congressional petition effort was also serving to delay the 2024 election cycle. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"853i/853n and consolidation boundaries around case 671 and Wang Yanping","description":"Participants argued that 853i and 853n are being conflated and disputed whether proceedings tied to case 671 or Wang Yanping can be crossed into one timeline. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qa01f3d1fcae2d9e6135f","qc0d1ba86702523493af9","q92967d0e3658248df444"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qa01f3d1fcae2d9e6135f","summary_en":"him*** asserted that, in the prosecution and judge’s view, 853i applicants would not receive an 853n hearing. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qc0d1ba86702523493af9","summary_en":"him*** attributed the dispute to Wang Yanping-related forfeiture procedures rather than a separate framework. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q92967d0e3658248df444","summary_en":"joh*** shared a claim from external posting that earlier thinking that 853 only applied to the Wang case was false. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"From criminal to bankruptcy court: pro se limits, filings, and creditor-list scrutiny","description":"Participants disputed the handoff between criminal and bankruptcy tracks, with questions about self-representation, docket authority, and whether bankruptcy can filter out fake creditors. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q3ca7f002164435f842cf","q369da9c2bf9065840bb8","q59074e9ce88e5f1e9ade"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q3ca7f002164435f842cf","summary_en":"xin*** asked how to conduct a private prosecution, signaling uncertainty over procedural self-initiated actions. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q369da9c2bf9065840bb8","summary_en":"ntp*** asked whether bankruptcy court permits pro se participation. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q59074e9ce88e5f1e9ade","summary_en":"him*** questioned whether bankruptcy proceedings would not defer to the Southern District’s handling. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Narrative authority struggle: role inflation and criticism of key public figures","description":"Participants contested who should be amplified or challenged in community storytelling, arguing over symbolic authority, influence, and reputational narratives rather than settled evidence. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q8f1eb23ecf66c233ce5d","q4ac8fd43079909bcd25f","q1bda3d017c11a8ec8e8c"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q8f1eb23ecf66c233ce5d","summary_en":"him*** asked why one participant responded to Ryan while appearing to ignore another figure, highlighting perceived favoritism in engagement. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q4ac8fd43079909bcd25f","summary_en":"gun*** posted a long critique of the “politically abandoned” label, arguing that continuing audience and platform activity contradicted claims of full ostracism and was being amplified by media ecosystems. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q1bda3d017c11a8ec8e8c","summary_en":"xin*** relayed a claim that Screw Brother argued Guo’s return would restore him as China’s richest person. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Amplification methods intensifying disagreement: livestreams, clips, and AI video circulation","description":"Participants claimed that program format and repost channels intensified polarization, with livestreams and short clips pushing emotional claims faster than cross-checkable documentation. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qf4ed04fa3e559fcc3a37","q1cbc8d4bd3b2ce1741c0","q3547ac3c64e1d8de408a"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qf4ed04fa3e559fcc3a37","summary_en":"him*** stated that a video recommended by An Xiaodong was not credible. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q1cbc8d4bd3b2ce1741c0","summary_en":"chu*** shared an external short-form post link, indicating continued use of social-platform clips in argumentation. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q3547ac3c64e1d8de408a","summary_en":"sar*** questioned whether referenced materials were from 2024 or 2025, flagging timeline ambiguity in circulated media. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Criminal decisions versus bankruptcy creditors: transferability and claimant legitimacy","description":"Participants disputed whether criminal-court material can be used in bankruptcy to remove false claims, while also contesting whether specific claimants remain legitimate under trustee handling. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qd690e2e4c4f3b61407e2","q31665ea8a4008f34a32b","q9b2a676e3ca507c4e50a"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qd690e2e4c4f3b61407e2","summary_en":"him*** asked whether criminal findings such as obstruction and false-claim narratives could be used in bankruptcy to disqualify Julia and other false creditors. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q31665ea8a4008f34a32b","summary_en":"him*** asked whether criminal-court judgments have legal effect in bankruptcy proceedings. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q9b2a676e3ca507c4e50a","summary_en":"reb*** relayed that the trustee described the defendant as violating injunctions and treated Gongzu Julia as a valid party. Community statements, not court findings."}]}],"summary":"讨论围绕郭案相关程序演化，核心在于规则边界与材料可信度。群内先因刷屏和离题发生限言，再转入§853(n)、rule60和听证时限，围绕受害者/投资者身份、Remission和财产没收顺序持续争辩。外部社媒帖、庭审视频与书面记录被反复交叉引用，但可采性与来源一致性一直存疑，部分成员据此推演司法被干预或报复。资金追缴、并案与破产庭衔接、身份与联盟关系、AI与节目传播又持续放大争议，讨论在“证据化论证”与“情绪化叙事”之间反复震荡，未形成稳定共识。","guide":[{"title":"群内秩序先行：刷屏与离题后群规、禁言与移出触发对话边界重设","message_ids":["q9abb96a484eeb75f889b","q729781328d3e19693d4c","q5706d33211725b292b17"]},{"title":"§853(n)、Rule60与听证时序：受理顺序、30天期限、先量刑或先财产处理分歧集中","message_ids":["q0e9ce3149448f7305ed5","q42ab387900dce0190dc9","q87d94dc7c3c1b62c64ea"]},{"title":"受害者身份争议是核心：是否全部受害者可取回财产、6000人归属及未定罪关系","message_ids":["q4d8acdbea3f98bb1e00b","qa67f8f2fb72cbcce7f1d","q51107040f6a98c31887b"]},{"title":"身份与发言资格冲突：青藤、Ava、瑞恩等在庭审与材料中的叙述互相牵扯","message_ids":["q63a8209ae1b66af310c8","q1fc6411e79674a7e6585","q53895bd03f039d4a73be"]},{"title":"没收与资金链猜测：主谋链条、三人角色、第三方返还时序及优先受益方归属","message_ids":["q92b62052429db947150b","qf8611cbc25f47c6d58bd","q7cae64de4d9a02fc2897"]},{"title":"证据边界与程序瑕疵并存：外部帖子、庭审影像、书面记录的可采性与脱敏合规","message_ids":["qec70b9a65228f51b64c7","q511dcb3c62c50e773e3b","q15ca551c447a7cb1a85c"]},{"title":"司法公正叙事二分化：报复、干预量刑与政治博弈一线牵引，真实性未共识","message_ids":["qde7166883d9020af8e22","q8ce27ae34d8bd7b14bfe","q933781f35e091d04c4c0"]},{"title":"853i/853n及并案边界：671、王艳平等案件是否可混用，时序与条文适用反复追问","message_ids":["qa01f3d1fcae2d9e6135f","qc0d1ba86702523493af9","q92967d0e3658248df444"]},{"title":"从刑事到破产庭：自诉、pro 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给抢注册了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q19a7affefb47a673b921","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a92159bfef97a999d66","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19a7affefb47a673b921","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"qfd7955f8f5414921d920","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":256,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2026-02-15T15:58:18.703Z","text":"艾玛，法律板块成了科幻扯淡专场了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd7955f8f5414921d920","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"qca88bbc0830be3811080","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":257,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2026-02-15T15:59:39.793Z","text":"引用老郭原话：“马斯克能不成为我们的敌人就已经不错了；去火星那是扯淡的；真有外星人，盘古就有”","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca88bbc0830be3811080","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"qb6e7b94be239b0629057","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":258,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-15T19:12:48.119Z","text":"gaveman 代理余建明，代理喜交所的文件在那找？ 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courtlistener上也没","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcd8c4f48cf7221b3fb73","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf27ce873895a8df89746","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd8c4f48cf7221b3fb73","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"qef191e7e76c9b48aad49","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":262,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-15T19:51:07.723Z","text":"讲的很专业","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc950924a48ef967e39c5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef191e7e76c9b48aad49","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc950924a48ef967e39c5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"q7e021a77f41a8d3b7a48","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":263,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-15T19:56:12.866Z","text":"他们说的报告是什么","edited":false,"reply_to":"qef191e7e76c9b48aad49","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e021a77f41a8d3b7a48","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef191e7e76c9b48aad49","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"q3ea6664c71137cb17982","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":264,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-15T19:58:31.106Z","text":"分析报告，谁写的报告","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7e021a77f41a8d3b7a48","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ea6664c71137cb17982","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e021a77f41a8d3b7a48","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"q4d7c329cafefe01c9b2d","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":265,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-15T19:58:38.750Z","text":"不知道","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3ea6664c71137cb17982","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d7c329cafefe01c9b2d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ea6664c71137cb17982","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"q605f6700b1f599648304","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":266,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-15T19:59:12.324Z","text":"有这种报告，第三方853n那些为什么不拿着报告上庭反对","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q605f6700b1f599648304","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"qdd63422a2c8cc5463f2b","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":267,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-15T19:59:51.284Z","text":"是瑞恩的733吗？他有提到检方要求法庭暂停受理第三方纠纷吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd63422a2c8cc5463f2b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"q4f0d5030d60d2e6024cb","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":268,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-15T20:00:03.797Z","text":"733没有提到","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f0d5030d60d2e6024cb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"q1bf687f47188b0fa6dae","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":269,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-15T20:01:01.468Z","text":"还有高手？这报告给谁了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1bf687f47188b0fa6dae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"q10fb1df4b83b37596993","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":270,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-15T20:01:48.334Z","text":"现在南区已经不上传动议了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1bf687f47188b0fa6dae","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10fb1df4b83b37596993","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1bf687f47188b0fa6dae","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"qf6868e6af4983d675f23","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":271,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-15T20:01:53.502Z","text":"除非他们找律师","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6868e6af4983d675f23","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"q42ab387900dce0190dc9","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":272,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-15T20:02:56.052Z","text":"853n必须30天内听证吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url"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很早就被他污染了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4ad2007c32c910852e5e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q366595edc69eabcfe008","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ad2007c32c910852e5e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"q7c9a5c773c84acd41e1e","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":351,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-15T22:10:22.852Z","text":"一直用错的结论去延续分析 只会越做越错\n而且他从不肯承认这一点","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c9a5c773c84acd41e1e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"qbf07056c7a3d83d4892a","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":352,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-15T22:24:13.446Z","text":"安小东这个总结\n大前提是 没收之后 \n对象是 申请853n 第三方 而且否定受害者（只能是853n A)\n但是他没明白 他填了盖尔的代理表 进去郭刑事案的角色 是853i 他分不清i 和n \n打个比方 他的源代码已经错 接下来的output只会越来越离谱\n几年了 他困在自己的AI matrix里出不来 也不敢去否定自己","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4a71aafd815f74ae269c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf07056c7a3d83d4892a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a71aafd815f74ae269c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"q527dc5507ddfa497535c","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":353,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-15T22:54:44.996Z","text":"上面的分析还说拖延归还冻结的钱给luc挥霍的机会，这个理论是对的。但是盖尔也提到过，所以安小东的视频基本上和盖尔和联盟高度一致。不是说他们是错的，而是没用。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q527dc5507ddfa497535c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"q0025c4176cc6bf6245c3","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":354,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-15T22:56:51.635Z","text":"我说过 安小东觉得 盖尔就是他爹\n即使被他爹骗了 也不敢承认","edited":false,"reply_to":"q527dc5507ddfa497535c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0025c4176cc6bf6245c3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q527dc5507ddfa497535c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"qa50d0f3dfd189ff6f513","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":355,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-15T22:57:27.120Z","text":"我觉得现在第三方吵来吵去都是白吵","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa50d0f3dfd189ff6f513","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"q3c6ac52bda263f878134","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":356,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-15T22:57:51.644Z","text":"只要量刑结束 瑞恩的强制令就会重启","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c6ac52bda263f878134","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"qe5d4857ff3f6b9394f5b","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":357,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-15T22:58:00.519Z","text":"司法欺诈rule60直接打废没收令","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5d4857ff3f6b9394f5b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"q51ba5ac8c2b60bf4308a","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":358,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-15T22:58:25.732Z","text":"如果这一次是先量刑 后没收","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51ba5ac8c2b60bf4308a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"q6c4cc02c4a137590746d","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":359,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-15T22:58:30.685Z","text":"那更好玩了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c4cc02c4a137590746d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"qfcd0dee52d9b01d92790","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":360,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-15T22:58:54.350Z","text":"这一次谁都拿不到钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfcd0dee52d9b01d92790","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"qd4730a576b1f090ec8b8","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":361,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-15T22:58:56.806Z","text":"检方完全有各种理由在量刑之前不归还冻结的钱，盖尔在没收之前要钱根本就是幻想，但是他还是去了，就是演戏","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4730a576b1f090ec8b8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"q84acdce61c2ab509b765","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":362,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-15T23:00:03.071Z","text":"量刑之后，还钱也会等很久，这都是正常的。但是，还钱根本不是重点。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84acdce61c2ab509b765","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"q9b49353e7b8215570378","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":363,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-15T23:00:48.829Z","text":"这个案子程序有问题，司法欺诈和布雷迪违规，没收程序不应该存在","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b49353e7b8215570378","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"q853883f43b99c7f1127e","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":364,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-15T23:00:57.560Z","text":"对","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9b49353e7b8215570378","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q853883f43b99c7f1127e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b49353e7b8215570378","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"q1306132a47e2aeec9939","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":365,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-15T23:01:10.556Z","text":"没收不存在 那量刑是不是也不应该存在","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1306132a47e2aeec9939","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"qcb21f293ba4f852f7de5","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":366,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-15T23:01:19.022Z","text":"安小东 一直是在承认没收的前提下 去讨论第三方 资产拥有者怎么去要钱(853n A)\n其实他已经被盖尔 青 检方 忽悠成853i\n明白这一点 就知道他是大[屏蔽词] 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盖尔 检方的叙事前提都是 必须承认没收\n在这个框架 去谈怎么要钱\n这就是他们去误导别人的叙事逻辑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba87088d6dd8fd9c7e2f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"qef33acc2861c6bb4f011","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":376,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2026-02-15T23:05:11.989Z","text":"量刑前能上的证据就往二巡丢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef33acc2861c6bb4f011","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"q4cb5b2d3eaab6883f71e","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":377,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-15T23:05:14.995Z","text":"还不能赶紧量刑 量刑前要把所有程序不正义写到案卷里面","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9ac8eee2698e1e98f52c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4cb5b2d3eaab6883f71e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ac8eee2698e1e98f52c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"q97b77adf0e209b872eaf","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":378,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-15T23:05:20.799Z","text":"对的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qef33acc2861c6bb4f011","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97b77adf0e209b872eaf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef33acc2861c6bb4f011","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"q05b45c163f7a54d93f04","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":379,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-15T23:07:07.049Z","text":"现在挺盖尔的只能拿853n给盖尔洗地","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05b45c163f7a54d93f04","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"q98215f536eaabe6aacb6","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":380,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-15T23:07:29.764Z","text":"盖尔自己都申请853i了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q98215f536eaabe6aacb6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"qe42de866b19ff892c5ac","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":381,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-15T23:07:54.769Z","text":"美其名曰保证没收权益","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe42de866b19ff892c5ac","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"qa01f3d1fcae2d9e6135f","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":382,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-15T23:07:56.396Z","text":"但是检方和法官的意思是853i申请者，不会有853n听证会了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa01f3d1fcae2d9e6135f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"q492cf23a05c65bf54d1e","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":383,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-15T23:08:38.006Z","text":"对啊 [删节：成员身份] 从不讲这个 怕得很","edited":true,"reply_to":"qa01f3d1fcae2d9e6135f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q492cf23a05c65bf54d1e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa01f3d1fcae2d9e6135f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"q96cb49287953489e43b5","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":384,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-15T23:08:51.567Z","text":"哪怕你只申请853n，没有853i，估计也会说你没资格，都归到853i","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q96cb49287953489e43b5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"qca6e078b4dbd07250010","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":385,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-15T23:09:22.953Z","text":"按[删节：成员身份]的逻辑，只要是主动参与投资的，都是受害人","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca6e078b4dbd07250010","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"q4dc5d7d93d92f213a953","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":386,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-15T23:11:22.692Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 还一直以为 自己是853n A\n眼瞎了 填的表 给盖尔 内容只支持853i","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4dc5d7d93d92f213a953","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"q36ea9026bda59f5dde38","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":387,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-15T23:12:36.448Z","text":"联盟都谁在网上说不是受害人来着？ [删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36ea9026bda59f5dde38","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"qb631714a50a7e6af7464","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":388,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-15T23:12:49.620Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] X上叫了好几年 有屁用\n检方 法官看得到的 只有申请材料 又不是X上判案","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb631714a50a7e6af7464","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"q6a9a478ba3a16b3a100e","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":389,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-15T23:12:59.812Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]啊 \n785出来以后 三票 青 都在发文","edited":true,"reply_to":"q36ea9026bda59f5dde38","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a9a478ba3a16b3a100e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36ea9026bda59f5dde38","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"qd1b59247450e6e82a1a0","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":390,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-15T23:13:14.424Z","text":"在推上？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6a9a478ba3a16b3a100e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1b59247450e6e82a1a0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a9a478ba3a16b3a100e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"qbf9d5c184dfa9fa028b7","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":391,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-15T23:13:46.358Z","text":"哦，我去搜搜","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6a9a478ba3a16b3a100e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf9d5c184dfa9fa028b7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a9a478ba3a16b3a100e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"q2196f677ca95c102dff4","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":392,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-15T23:17:20.306Z","text":"没找到，有链接不？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6a9a478ba3a16b3a100e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2196f677ca95c102dff4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a9a478ba3a16b3a100e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"q87d94dc7c3c1b62c64ea","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":393,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-15T23:30:16.685Z","text":"现在的情况就是第三方，政府和辩方都出了书面陈述，有事实争议，法官长时间没有裁定的状况，上次，辩方724，政府750后，辩方再回复后托雷斯应该在30天内举行853听证，托雷斯拖了几个月让辩方表达对没收令的意见来给自己拖延找举行853听证找理由。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc5999da80e7f0e967864","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87d94dc7c3c1b62c64ea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"q84cdf928573cbbbf2b99","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":394,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-15T23:31:35.348Z","text":"有什么规定说853n听证需要在30天之内举行","edited":false,"reply_to":"q87d94dc7c3c1b62c64ea","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84cdf928573cbbbf2b99","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87d94dc7c3c1b62c64ea","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"qcc6f2b676a797b7da705","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":395,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-15T23:32:03.146Z","text":"缺乏明确受害者和具体赔偿数据\nhttps://x.com/no3mos/status/2020211026994589841?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2196f677ca95c102dff4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc6f2b676a797b7da705","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2196f677ca95c102dff4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"q946e740a40c0a25fa181","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":396,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-15T23:32:24.486Z","text":"没有听证就没法分钱，没法分钱就没法没收","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q946e740a40c0a25fa181","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"q351fbd75975355a58a4f","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":397,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-15T23:33:23.169Z","text":"没收和分钱没关系","edited":false,"reply_to":"q946e740a40c0a25fa181","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q351fbd75975355a58a4f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q946e740a40c0a25fa181","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"qcbeb5cff4bfc0a87c4cd","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":398,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-15T23:33:45.056Z","text":"最终没收令不需要在量刑之前下达吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcbeb5cff4bfc0a87c4cd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"q92967d0e3658248df444","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":399,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-15T23:33:45.551Z","text":"这个也是 说之前853 是只针对王案 a lie\nhttps://x.com/no3mos/status/2020934487451033615?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q92967d0e3658248df444","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"},{"id":"qb7e7d5c919ddd0861854","batch_id":"batch-000078","seq":400,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-15T23:33:45.984Z","text":"退的钱没定，政府咋没收","edited":false,"reply_to":"q351fbd75975355a58a4f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7e7d5c919ddd0861854","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q351fbd75975355a58a4f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000078"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000077","next_batch_id":"batch-000079"}