{"id":"batch-000079","number":79,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-02-17T00:17:18.913Z","date_end":"2026-02-19T19:06:36.148Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 079 (Feb 17, 2026 – Feb 19, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Discussions trace parallel threads concerning conflicts between the criminal and bankruptcy proceedings over creditor claims, focusing on alleged fraudulent filings, eligibility of entities like the G-series and Gongzu, and disputes over 320 billion claims. Participants also debate procedural boundaries, including victim status under the Crime Victims' Rights Act, injunction scopes, appellate routes through the Second Circuit, judicial neutrality, and the verifiability of external links, video screenshots, and AI-assisted document analyses versus public records.","guide_en":[{"title":"Burden of Proof for False Claims and Whether Defendant's Unilateral Statements Suffice to Presume Fraudulent Claims","description":"Participants debate the evidentiary burden for establishing fraudulent creditor claims and dispute whether the debtor's allegations alone can prove claims are fabricated.","message_ids":["q6d134f72d12e1d5f3867","q7c8c3921ab8141ba622e","qffd9e0c114d39426fa5e"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q6d134f72d12e1d5f3867","summary_en":"reb*** contends that document 134 in the adversary proceeding relates to an injunction cited by Luc Despins, arguing that the court barred the debtor from disproving Gongzu's claim while the trustee refuses to verify it."},{"message_id":"q7c8c3921ab8141ba622e","summary_en":"reb*** argues that the bankruptcy court failed to hold hearings on debtor objections by deferring to the trustee, which Luc allegedly leveraged to initiate the criminal indictment."},{"message_id":"qffd9e0c114d39426fa5e","summary_en":"reb*** questions why claims promoted by the defendant are accepted as real while Gongzu's is treated as fabricated, noting Luc accused the defendant of defamation for alleging multiplied claims."}]},{"title":"Eligibility of G-Series Entities, Gongzu, and Julia as Creditors and Their Ties to the Defendant","description":"Participants dispute whether Gongzu, Julia, and G-series entities qualify as legitimate creditors and question their documented investment amounts.","message_ids":["q6013accd35d690e58575","q9c6d76b5a766a675be9c","q0c0b154e2cc5db88c1cd"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q6013accd35d690e58575","summary_en":"him*** questions whether there is documentary evidence for Gongzu's claim amount as a G-series investor and asks how much she actually invested."},{"message_id":"q9c6d76b5a766a675be9c","summary_en":"him*** asks why Gongzu's claim is treated as genuine while other creditors' claims are considered false."},{"message_id":"q0c0b154e2cc5db88c1cd","summary_en":"kir*** notes that Gongzu registered a claim of over 200,000 without multiplying it by thousands, whereas Julia's registered claim appeared exaggerated."}]},{"title":"Conflicts Between Criminal and Bankruptcy Courts Over Claim Characterization and Evidentiary Review","description":"Participants dispute the priority between criminal and bankruptcy court orders and argue whether hearings on creditor claims were improperly omitted.","message_ids":["q3cd1e5f427d8b2f63bc8","q0a4353026fe5dcbb2478","qb1c602439affc4b70e61"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q3cd1e5f427d8b2f63bc8","summary_en":"him*** asserts that orders from the criminal court take precedence over those from the bankruptcy court."},{"message_id":"q0a4353026fe5dcbb2478","summary_en":"him*** argues that criminal and bankruptcy proceedings conflict with each other and asserts that Judge Manning never ruled that Guo's encouragement violated an injunction."},{"message_id":"qb1c602439affc4b70e61","summary_en":"reb*** contends that the 320 billion figure must include Gongzu and others, adding that the bankruptcy court approved Luc's application to anonymize creditors."}]},{"title":"Discrepancies in Claim Calculations: 320 Billion Source, 200,000 Threshold, and Multiplied Claims","description":"Participants examine the origins of the 320 billion claim figure and question how specific individual claims factor into the total calculation.","message_ids":["q5c7a919e3e8944459116","q95382eded83889e72cfa","q7ac4793f99cbe249fe91"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q5c7a919e3e8944459116","summary_en":"him*** asks whether Luc had already investigated and stated that there were 320 billion in false claims."},{"message_id":"q95382eded83889e72cfa","summary_en":"him*** questions how Luc investigated and arrived at the 320 billion figure."},{"message_id":"q7ac4793f99cbe249fe91","summary_en":"him*** asks whether that total includes funds claimed by Gongzu and Julia."}]},{"title":"Victim Status and CVRA Procedural Boundaries: Standing to Challenge Rulings and File Victim Statements","description":"Participants discuss procedures under the Crime Victims' Rights Act and the viability of filing motions to enforce victim status.","message_ids":["q44000359b7b80d6a5686","q9ca33e00ddc79dd1e02e","q007cff5519eac041c837"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q44000359b7b80d6a5686","summary_en":"xin*** expresses confusion over whether individuals qualify as victims, do not qualify, or are unwilling to be designated as victims."},{"message_id":"q9ca33e00ddc79dd1e02e","summary_en":"xin*** shares a draft template for a motion to enforce rights under the Crime Victims' Rights Act, 18 U.S.C. § 3771, challenging the prosecution's disclosure and claim determinations."},{"message_id":"q007cff5519eac041c837","summary_en":"kir*** remarks that the demands outlined in the drafted motion appear very vague."}]},{"title":"Boundaries and Neutrality of the Judge and Prosecution: Allegations of Bias and Procedural Imbalance","description":"Participants debate judicial neutrality and allege that presiding judges and prosecutors exhibited bias during the proceedings.","message_ids":["q016d613f16e3fb20dfb1","q37012bb8bc9287d8d5d0","q390428565ef8ff97ccd7"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q016d613f16e3fb20dfb1","summary_en":"xin*** comments on the immense scope of judicial power."},{"message_id":"q37012bb8bc9287d8d5d0","summary_en":"sar*** describes judicial lifetime tenure and contends that Judge Torres showed overt bias in Guo's case."},{"message_id":"q390428565ef8ff97ccd7","summary_en":"joh*** alleges that the judge is compromised, arguing that the sale of Mahwah property constitutes an unavoidable issue for her."}]},{"title":"Evidence Sources and Verifiability: Doubts Over External Links, Screenshot Chains, and Forwarded Records","description":"Participants request and dispute the authenticity of online screenshots, shared social media links, and court filings.","message_ids":["q2458c9cbc983db6ced61","qc7d3c2e3cee57d6dc971","q19b554507fef2a864ec7"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q2458c9cbc983db6ced61","summary_en":"ntp*** asks kir*** whether the screenshot of the tweet warning him is still available."},{"message_id":"qc7d3c2e3cee57d6dc971","summary_en":"ntp*** shares an external link to a post on platform X."},{"message_id":"q19b554507fef2a864ec7","summary_en":"xin*** requests a link to the community's court document repository."}]},{"title":"Controversies Over AI Tools: Drafting Assistance, Content Reliability, and Interpretation of Document 803","description":"Participants recount using artificial intelligence to draft investment claims and describe discrepancies when querying AI about court document 803.","message_ids":["q72ea5bf5efcf3b00b6ad","q1177e13510f0011a5393","qdc991f54bbe910ee217b"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q72ea5bf5efcf3b00b6ad","summary_en":"roy*** describes providing personal investment details and chat group content to an AI to generate drafting materials without needing to understand legal intricacies."},{"message_id":"q1177e13510f0011a5393","summary_en":"kir*** warns that copying and pasting content will be caught by the judge."},{"message_id":"qdc991f54bbe910ee217b","summary_en":"ntp*** recounts frustration that Gemini erroneously denied that document 803 mentioned GTV until shown page numbers and screenshots."}]},{"title":"Procedural Deadlines and Litigation Strategy: Document 799 Responses, Document 803, and Forfeiture Orders","description":"Participants track litigation deadlines regarding document 799, subsequent filings under document 803, and standing to challenge forfeiture orders.","message_ids":["q84ee3526cc24a180e42a","q9d1baf078719f626ef8b","q3077d90c6028d6d74f37"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q84ee3526cc24a180e42a","summary_en":"him*** notes that the prosecution has not yet responded to document 799."},{"message_id":"q9d1baf078719f626ef8b","summary_en":"him*** questions what is intended by repeated references to attorneys."},{"message_id":"q3077d90c6028d6d74f37","summary_en":"reb*** contends that prosecutors and Luc unfairly attribute G-series entities to the defendant while simultaneously denying the defense standing to challenge forfeiture orders."}]},{"title":"Disputes Over Actual Control and Ownership Chains: Interpretations of Testimony and Inferences","description":"Participants debate whether the prosecution proved the defendant exercised actual control over G-series entities.","message_ids":["qcb905d487430d9e68623","qf27890bb00b79c81b8e2","q35b51b05ef1106bcf2f1"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qcb905d487430d9e68623","summary_en":"him*** notes that the prosecution currently relies on the fact that the jury has already returned a conviction."},{"message_id":"qf27890bb00b79c81b8e2","summary_en":"him*** states that the prosecution argues Guo exercised substantive control over the G-series entities."},{"message_id":"q35b51b05ef1106bcf2f1","summary_en":"kir*** contends that there is no proof establishing such control."}]},{"title":"Parallel Narratives of Conspiracy and Procedural Justice: Debates Over Alleged Political Framing","description":"Participants dispute whether the criminal prosecution constitutes a politically motivated setup involving alleged conspiracies.","message_ids":["qf60082b4ef50928f5d82","qe93c01b4b4fddafd9228","qcc00de69686d0d455f91"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qf60082b4ef50928f5d82","summary_en":"joh*** alleges a RICO conspiracy aimed at collecting third-party investor information to mislead investors into claiming victim status."},{"message_id":"qe93c01b4b4fddafd9228","summary_en":"joh*** asserts that a RICO conspiracy involved falsely registering bankruptcy creditors and presenting coordinated perjured testimony at trial."},{"message_id":"qcc00de69686d0d455f91","summary_en":"wei*** contends that the prosecution against Guo Wengui is the result of Chinese Communist Party political framing and transnational repression."}]},{"title":"Appellate Routes and Timing Strategies: Post-Sentencing Appeals, Second Circuit, and Supreme Court Pathways","description":"Participants debate appellate strategy, explaining the jurisdictional hierarchy between the Second Circuit and the Supreme Court.","message_ids":["q6110889bb262909d5e19","q0edbfe6390c7b1fa7697","q99eccf4868d5e9758572"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q6110889bb262909d5e19","summary_en":"kir*** contends that drafting the criminal filing in such a manner makes formal docketing impossible."},{"message_id":"q0edbfe6390c7b1fa7697","summary_en":"reb*** remarks that attempting an appeal directly to the Supreme Court could be a viable 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不可能给你证明","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5c089afee0fc868aeacd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b9cb90a447832de9b82","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c089afee0fc868aeacd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q7ac4793f99cbe249fe91","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":34,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-17T00:35:43.095Z","text":"包括公族茱莉亚的钱吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ac4793f99cbe249fe91","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q0c0b154e2cc5db88c1cd","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":35,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T00:36:13.556Z","text":"拱卒登记了20多万 好像没千倍 但julia夸张","edited":false,"reply_to":"q74014588c090994ef386","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c0b154e2cc5db88c1cd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74014588c090994ef386","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q49679355c1d71142bfe8","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":36,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-17T00:37:04.699Z","text":"公族茱莉亚是不能登记为债权人，还是登记数字有问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q49679355c1d71142bfe8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q605c85c3c40fcb3eee01","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":37,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T00:37:32.960Z","text":"拱卒和luc 在2023年一月 老郭就说 俩人在那里接头了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q49679355c1d71142bfe8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q605c85c3c40fcb3eee01","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q49679355c1d71142bfe8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qb1c602439affc4b70e61","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":38,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-17T00:37:38.008Z","text":"在这些细节上要较真，那320亿里肯定有拱卒们的。并且后来luc申请让债权人匿名化也被破产法庭批准了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7ac4793f99cbe249fe91","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1c602439affc4b70e61","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ac4793f99cbe249fe91","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q82ff32fff258cc0cd736","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":39,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-17T00:38:09.288Z","text":"但是他们是没有资格成为郭的债权人，还是债权数字夸大","edited":false,"reply_to":"q605c85c3c40fcb3eee01","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82ff32fff258cc0cd736","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q605c85c3c40fcb3eee01","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q0b57aad0beaeab875de3","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":40,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T00:38:10.109Z","text":"1: g系列不能登记为债权人 2: 拱卒 julia 登记是假的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b57aad0beaeab875de3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qe107336c30d60f8642f4","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":41,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T00:38:36.912Z","text":"既没有资格也夸大","edited":false,"reply_to":"q82ff32fff258cc0cd736","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe107336c30d60f8642f4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82ff32fff258cc0cd736","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q94d8f9ecc63b92a5ef5d","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":42,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-17T00:38:50.969Z","text":"320亿到底怎么算出来的，包括所有g系列投资人吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb1c602439affc4b70e61","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94d8f9ecc63b92a5ef5d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1c602439affc4b70e61","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qd5abff6732b4d79372a0","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":43,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T00:39:10.637Z","text":"是破产法庭的专题媒体报道","edited":false,"reply_to":"q94d8f9ecc63b92a5ef5d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5abff6732b4d79372a0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94d8f9ecc63b92a5ef5d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q3437267e778cb01505cd","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":44,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T00:39:16.941Z","text":"luc和曼宁通知的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3437267e778cb01505cd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qe5fa1f53d65ca37ceb1d","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":45,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-17T00:39:19.858Z","text":"就是那个债权人登记表里所有的索赔金额加起来。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q94d8f9ecc63b92a5ef5d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5fa1f53d65ca37ceb1d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94d8f9ecc63b92a5ef5d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qc1309492f9467e7b3452","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":46,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T00:39:27.091Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe5fa1f53d65ca37ceb1d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1309492f9467e7b3452","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5fa1f53d65ca37ceb1d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q9b6bbc285d19d8f260be","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":47,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T00:39:44.127Z","text":"各位 我觉得这个大家只要看733和733的报告 都能搞明白","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b6bbc285d19d8f260be","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q68ca6f030ca96cdcd647","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":48,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-17T00:40:20.296Z","text":"所有人加起来，包括公族和茱莉亚吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe5fa1f53d65ca37ceb1d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68ca6f030ca96cdcd647","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5fa1f53d65ca37ceb1d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qa074957b8977100ffb22","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":49,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-17T00:40:25.864Z","text":"被欺诈金额属于广义债权。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0b57aad0beaeab875de3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa074957b8977100ffb22","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b57aad0beaeab875de3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qa349e9f072b1e1ce6518","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":50,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T00:40:27.923Z","text":"肯定包括啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q68ca6f030ca96cdcd647","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa349e9f072b1e1ce6518","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68ca6f030ca96cdcd647","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q7b848658e83a0385fb3c","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":51,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-17T00:40:29.818Z","text":"他不能选择性排除吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b848658e83a0385fb3c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qcd4cf373bb13885f6f2d","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":52,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-17T00:40:35.995Z","text":"是","edited":false,"reply_to":"q68ca6f030ca96cdcd647","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd4cf373bb13885f6f2d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68ca6f030ca96cdcd647","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q2a68f21cf9292be378ff","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":53,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-17T00:40:49.911Z","text":"那就是说所有g系列投资者都是虚假索赔","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a68f21cf9292be378ff","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qeb3086c264df12411a87","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":54,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T00:40:59.189Z","text":"对！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2a68f21cf9292be378ff","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb3086c264df12411a87","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a68f21cf9292be378ff","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q2eaf5617efdefa8af65d","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":55,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T00:41:01.345Z","text":"全都是","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2eaf5617efdefa8af65d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qcfe0296eb0943b898bfb","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":56,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T00:41:10.088Z","text":"如果按照老郭的要求","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfe0296eb0943b898bfb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q9c49e4ab33e3c86a50c3","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":57,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T00:41:19.841Z","text":"julia 拱卒 g系列根本就没资格登记","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c49e4ab33e3c86a50c3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q6ac21c50cd2627a945d5","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":58,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-17T00:41:20.909Z","text":"1 G系列的债权人 应该指向背后受益者 何浩然 而不是郭","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0b57aad0beaeab875de3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ac21c50cd2627a945d5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b57aad0beaeab875de3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q4b997eefa17ba7c0b8c3","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":59,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T00:41:32.817Z","text":"对","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6ac21c50cd2627a945d5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b997eefa17ba7c0b8c3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ac21c50cd2627a945d5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q71866f048fb000c8c4f8","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":60,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-17T00:42:04.052Z","text":"就这一条 就够了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71866f048fb000c8c4f8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q971d329b81cbac329ebb","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":61,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-17T00:42:16.432Z","text":"不是只有gclub是何浩然吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6ac21c50cd2627a945d5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q971d329b81cbac329ebb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ac21c50cd2627a945d5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q28d28e0c83bd04c23a4f","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":62,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-17T00:42:27.825Z","text":"其他不是于健民吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q28d28e0c83bd04c23a4f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q69e6e1977d7b4d038c88","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":63,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T00:42:37.363Z","text":"老郭鼓动按照luc的比例索赔 是破产案的抗辩方式","edited":false,"reply_to":"q71866f048fb000c8c4f8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69e6e1977d7b4d038c88","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71866f048fb000c8c4f8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qdc98ed17e969b5a2e3bd","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":64,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T00:43:05.376Z","text":"各位 如果你们gclub投资损失","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc98ed17e969b5a2e3bd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q98c7ea2cf0900cd93294","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":65,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T00:43:10.658Z","text":"全他妈可以去破产案介入","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q98c7ea2cf0900cd93294","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qead27a47783a7854a47f","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":66,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T00:43:16.680Z","text":"问luc赔钱我操","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qead27a47783a7854a47f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qf73616b6bb0b061c4342","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":67,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T00:44:15.075Z","text":"司法欺诈了还搞个屁","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf73616b6bb0b061c4342","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q6295aa9fa0181bcba936","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":68,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T00:45:42.294Z","text":"luc 卖mawah 其实很明显 再不卖 没机会了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6295aa9fa0181bcba936","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qb36c79ec57a2f5d1d356","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":69,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-17T00:47:14.517Z","text":"不是说，按照老郭的要求，我是说，按照法律的逻辑，公族和茱莉亚有没有资格登记","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9c49e4ab33e3c86a50c3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb36c79ec57a2f5d1d356","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c49e4ab33e3c86a50c3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q435d318206ede937ecf7","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":70,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-02-17T00:47:23.774Z","text":"拱猪是不是提起了高倍索赔，比如她对七哥milesguo高倍索赔的计算依据，具体是什么？是把90%仍未释放的投资福利币hcoin按市值最高价计算？甚至说按milesguo七哥在某些直播场合里对hcoin未来的预期价值进行计算！？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q74014588c090994ef386","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q435d318206ede937ecf7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74014588c090994ef386","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qb4b76c03f4684c6432a0","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":71,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-17T00:47:25.112Z","text":"733附件a还差一个luc反复引用但我在网络上找不到的那个禁制令文件。提出了拱卒们的债权需要核实的问题，但上诉法院不会帮你去核实，按照最有利于政府的视角，他们可以选择相信政府受托人，只有检方在其它地方的虚假陈诉和违规是定死的。如果被告不通过换律师把律师不传唤luc导致无效辩护说出来，上诉法庭会认为是你被告自己有问题怕被桶出来才不传唤，所以拱卒债权真假的问题必须也得先提出来，被告没有提，我们提出来了，但还需要钉得更死一些。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9b6bbc285d19d8f260be","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4b76c03f4684c6432a0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b6bbc285d19d8f260be","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qe19cf58901b80088a1e4","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":72,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-17T00:47:42.250Z","text":"老郭肯定觉得他们没资格登记，但是按照法律，公族和茱莉亚有没有资格登记","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe19cf58901b80088a1e4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qaf009918a67b29671567","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":73,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-02-17T00:48:02.425Z","text":"把[删节：成员身份]写进司法文件中去！","edited":true,"reply_to":"q90a317dd01eeace97b1d","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf009918a67b29671567","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qa4f9c2480c8733668de0","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":74,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T00:48:02.439Z","text":"没有资格","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb36c79ec57a2f5d1d356","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa4f9c2480c8733668de0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb36c79ec57a2f5d1d356","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qa06b935787a51ee6a089","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":75,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T00:48:11.994Z","text":"没有","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe19cf58901b80088a1e4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa06b935787a51ee6a089","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe19cf58901b80088a1e4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q3cc17e47fa530cc7d346","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":76,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T00:48:22.653Z","text":"g系列和老郭根本没关系","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3cc17e47fa530cc7d346","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qd5b0591c388bb4e14208","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":77,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T00:48:47.848Z","text":"这个问题要去施压破产庭","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb4b76c03f4684c6432a0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5b0591c388bb4e14208","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4b76c03f4684c6432a0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qc0f8d387c6b3d48b5852","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":78,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-17T00:48:56.267Z","text":"不知道，他们高倍索赔的依据是什么","edited":false,"reply_to":"q435d318206ede937ecf7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com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老郭早就爆料 是拱卒和luc协同的","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19e48b3bdc3e68231960","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q41d793f6f0880fb132dc","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":80,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-17T00:50:33.293Z","text":"没什么依据，就是要诈骗陷害被告。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc0f8d387c6b3d48b5852","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41d793f6f0880fb132dc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0f8d387c6b3d48b5852","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q89f5bc868c900d84e51b","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":81,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T00:50:53.796Z","text":"是按照拱卒 julia的比例来的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc0f8d387c6b3d48b5852","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q89f5bc868c900d84e51b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0f8d387c6b3d48b5852","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q25537383f428fa4d139d","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":82,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-17T00:51:14.417Z","text":"现在是圆圈逻辑，g系列和郭没关系，但是公族茱莉亚登记以后，就有关系了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3cc17e47fa530cc7d346","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25537383f428fa4d139d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3cc17e47fa530cc7d346","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q7db47830c2d4d7c616d5","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":83,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T00:51:20.807Z","text":"对","edited":false,"reply_to":"q25537383f428fa4d139d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7db47830c2d4d7c616d5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25537383f428fa4d139d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qc24fe938ea8785747363","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":84,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-02-17T00:51:23.683Z","text":"拱猪那些应该是超级不合常理的高倍索赔，\n所以七哥才认为那些是不应该被luc登记的债权人， 是吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc0f8d387c6b3d48b5852","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc24fe938ea8785747363","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0f8d387c6b3d48b5852","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q6d51b819992531cf60e6","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":85,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T00:51:24.221Z","text":"就是这样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d51b819992531cf60e6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qffe894814a896513db1d","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":86,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-17T00:53:07.900Z","text":"但是债权人登记本身不能是郭和g系列有关系的证据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qffe894814a896513db1d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qb07486f44327e3408b3a","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":87,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-17T00:53:22.405Z","text":"至少不是完整的证据链","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb07486f44327e3408b3a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qcf429dca1cb3910f70ad","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":88,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-02-17T00:53:37.692Z","text":"七哥才在视频里说既然如此，大家都应该去登记，登记索赔上亿的债务。\n因为本质是拱猪提出了远高出常理的高倍索赔？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf429dca1cb3910f70ad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q6345ebc61b4e917b66d6","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":89,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T00:54:33.057Z","text":"债权人登记 刑事案用的 就是虚假索赔","edited":false,"reply_to":"qffe894814a896513db1d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6345ebc61b4e917b66d6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qffe894814a896513db1d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q7748691c19ad6d97cfbd","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":90,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T00:54:45.389Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcf429dca1cb3910f70ad","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7748691c19ad6d97cfbd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf429dca1cb3910f70ad","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qf150711e5befa8807561","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":91,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T00:55:04.472Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]至于抓人是不是债权人 现在还是不知道","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf150711e5befa8807561","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q4abf0d4d3c9733580373","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":92,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-17T00:56:38.133Z","text":"拱🐷是不是 刑事案原始报案人 不知道","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf150711e5befa8807561","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4abf0d4d3c9733580373","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf150711e5befa8807561","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q4a929822735d3789759b","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":93,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T00:57:41.143Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4abf0d4d3c9733580373","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a929822735d3789759b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4abf0d4d3c9733580373","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q26d95440650f80b293b3","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":94,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-17T00:57:43.699Z","text":"我猜测\n她是以G系列投资受损 是受害者 去刑事案报案的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26d95440650f80b293b3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q0174fbfba923e7380a73","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":95,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T00:57:59.007Z","text":"你怎么知道？？？？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q26d95440650f80b293b3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0174fbfba923e7380a73","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26d95440650f80b293b3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q0cc65d710dadf3299c26","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":96,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T00:58:08.782Z","text":"拱卒报案了？？？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0cc65d710dadf3299c26","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q3e9b6b5fce77eade307c","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":97,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-17T00:58:11.873Z","text":"我改一下 我推测的啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0174fbfba923e7380a73","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e9b6b5fce77eade307c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0174fbfba923e7380a73","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qd89df24e9fdb6c65b3af","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":98,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T00:58:18.418Z","text":"哦","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3e9b6b5fce77eade307c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd89df24e9fdb6c65b3af","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e9b6b5fce77eade307c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q1bbfcb484ad700e5c70f","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":99,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-17T00:58:39.664Z","text":"目前刑事案原始受害者 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虚假索赔","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38ae0202913cc2a8befd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qa32b63bb8ee3cd86a719","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":110,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-17T01:19:07.626Z","text":"如果这个成立 那么这几项 Luc都有 而且是他比郭更早做","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa32b63bb8ee3cd86a719","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qe3cdb407a403602c49df","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":111,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-17T01:21:57.285Z","text":"/或者这样说 容易理解\n郭学Luc 往债权人登记里掺沙子\n郭有错 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那么毒树之果 所有抓捕的证据都不能算","edited":false,"reply_to":"q38ae0202913cc2a8befd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb10a04c52d6ec730cbcb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38ae0202913cc2a8befd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q19813127f311a4fdddde","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":115,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-17T01:45:56.407Z","text":"现在觉得陪审团就是个坑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19813127f311a4fdddde","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q00ecf87626c7285ad23a","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":116,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-17T01:46:10.320Z","text":"陪审团判案，判错的概率很大","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00ecf87626c7285ad23a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q4517f16f228f57e55815","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":117,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-17T01:46:34.965Z","text":"这个案子如果不用陪审团，就让法官判，不一定是现在这个结果","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4517f16f228f57e55815","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q5e0a59ba2ca152e574e0","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":118,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-17T01:46:59.091Z","text":"我是说法官正常的情况下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e0a59ba2ca152e574e0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q16a09d42bdbee30e1deb","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":119,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-17T01:48:13.128Z","text":"还是那句证词 thousands of victims\n这个肯定是联盟干的 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就成了刑事案受害人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9c7eb8c6bc8fdfdd431f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdfa0a0ee18eb12f8e454","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c7eb8c6bc8fdfdd431f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q4304a26601d287db1aa2","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":126,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-17T02:08:31.927Z","text":"对 那时候第三方都被按着在\n或者被Geyer Govenman代表 上不去庭上\n799辩方也说了 庭审时候 几个证人 把所有投资者 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Geyer那几千人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8eafa05b4f3877592153","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45126baa4e6922d962a2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8eafa05b4f3877592153","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q9dbe909024106fe1e07b","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":129,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T02:15:36.223Z","text":"想办法做实","edited":false,"reply_to":"q45126baa4e6922d962a2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9dbe909024106fe1e07b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45126baa4e6922d962a2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q08b6c778488e825ad972","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":130,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-17T02:53:48.265Z","text":"想让中共最快把蓝金黄送上门的方式，就是大力挺郭。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08b6c778488e825ad972","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q64a5a167b92276c301ef","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":131,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T02:58:03.389Z","text":"你先说你想干嘛","edited":false,"reply_to":"q51b73aa41a5c1271bd9e","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64a5a167b92276c301ef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q7346cc864a76a78cf438","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":132,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-17T03:00:12.673Z","text":"用AI解读瑞恩的文件 复制黏贴","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7346cc864a76a78cf438","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q1177e13510f0011a5393","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":133,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T03:14:35.642Z","text":"复制黏贴会被法官抓的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q257b981206c2385bf21e","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1177e13510f0011a5393","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q8ce6f38cedc83c689307","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":134,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-17T03:17:29.381Z","text":"你们都写好了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ce6f38cedc83c689307","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qe0ef6ddb8298b243450a","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":135,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-02-17T03:54:17.989Z","text":"https://youtu.be/0B9ItUSZt_U?si=JTSjl6sakgT_evR8","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0ef6ddb8298b243450a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q0bf57e360924eac9f599","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":136,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-17T04:06:20.100Z","text":"你说这些没用 很多人不是不想写 是不会写","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe0ef6ddb8298b243450a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0bf57e360924eac9f599","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0ef6ddb8298b243450a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q787672b68c32a62d32fb","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":137,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-17T04:53:21.884Z","text":"找到一个申请退款的怨种 投那么多钱 哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q787672b68c32a62d32fb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qcc69d59569ce3bda278a","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":138,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-17T04:53:59.516Z","text":"这个和我们不是一路吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q624d89cc083b548d741d","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc69d59569ce3bda278a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q014d1b9e1ccbb9a06ee9","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":139,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-17T04:54:19.535Z","text":"好多这种","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q014d1b9e1ccbb9a06ee9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q55da18c0a63e9752bf76","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":140,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-02-17T05:12:55.405Z","text":"这个人是跟听联盟组织去搞853的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q787672b68c32a62d32fb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55da18c0a63e9752bf76","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q787672b68c32a62d32fb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q159f3623976589e27111","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":141,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-17T05:13:32.280Z","text":"不知道啊 我已经懵了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q159f3623976589e27111","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q65d19b3d1e62aada50e0","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":142,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-02-17T05:14:09.308Z","text":"你看看他的提交时间","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65d19b3d1e62aada50e0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qb0a857d05885c4db20f0","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":143,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-17T05:14:36.080Z","text":"没多久","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0a857d05885c4db20f0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q72ea5bf5efcf3b00b6ad","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":144,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-02-17T06:58:21.510Z","text":"不需要看得懂，我把自己投资情况写给AI，Ai列出我的投资清单，然后我把群里看到的内容一起复制给AI，然AI帮我写出来，一点不难","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72ea5bf5efcf3b00b6ad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qf7a6a144fe2f6b932ffc","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":145,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-02-17T06:58:42.292Z","text":"我只需要告诉AI我想说的话","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf7a6a144fe2f6b932ffc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q56ad0badeb9995800948","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":146,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-17T08:10:35.280Z","text":"这个跟现在的局面很像，但谁是那个制造矛盾的人呢？\n\nhttps://x.com/jz86574932/status/2023363730273341919?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56ad0badeb9995800948","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q60c54b9df4b57fa5d060","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":147,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-17T08:12:10.668Z","text":"都是为了老郭出来或者说都是为了拿到钱，但却走出了截然相反的两条路，还都认为自己对，都看对方是[屏蔽词]，有时候人真的很可笑可怜","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60c54b9df4b57fa5d060","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q344bdc706b440c06c7c6","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":148,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-17T08:12:51.810Z","text":"还能这么玩啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q72ea5bf5efcf3b00b6ad","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q344bdc706b440c06c7c6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72ea5bf5efcf3b00b6ad","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qad3317589ccb31b9d3aa","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":149,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-17T08:13:43.641Z","text":"AI听的懂g系列？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q72ea5bf5efcf3b00b6ad","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad3317589ccb31b9d3aa","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72ea5bf5efcf3b00b6ad","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qafab5bde7a91e3451d64","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":150,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T08:18:22.402Z","text":"［用户 chu***］  这个节目分析的太精彩了！","edited":true,"reply_to":"qe0ef6ddb8298b243450a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qafab5bde7a91e3451d64","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0ef6ddb8298b243450a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q0f8cb06bd9122750f95b","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":151,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T08:18:34.373Z","text":"［用户 chu***］ 但有一点我要给v先生说话","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f8cb06bd9122750f95b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q70fc2dbd1f84fca3467b","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":152,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T08:18:47.006Z","text":"［用户 chu***］ 你真的别怪他说你是司法专业的","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70fc2dbd1f84fca3467b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q1513172d8b71c4d13fff","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":153,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T08:19:00.011Z","text":"［用户 chu***］ 就你的司法天赋隔着屏幕都溢出来了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1513172d8b71c4d13fff","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q3ad8347419c0c3832b3d","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":154,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T08:19:23.940Z","text":"［用户 chu***］  瑞恩 当时说 他都理解了两个月你在干什么","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ad8347419c0c3832b3d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q9ca33e00ddc79dd1e02e","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":155,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-17T08:26:51.531Z","text":"美国联邦地区法院\n【填写法院名称，例如：纽约南区联邦地区法院】\n\n美利坚合众国\n诉\n【被告姓名】\n\n案号：【填写】\n\n---\n\n根据《犯罪受害者权利法》(18 U.S.C. §3771)提出的受害者权利动议\n\n(Motion to Enforce Rights Under the Crime Victims’ Rights Act)\n\n动议人：【你的姓名】\n\n---\n\n一、动议性质\n\n动议人依据《犯罪受害者权利法》(18 U.S.C. §3771)提出本动议，请求法院确认并保障动议人在本案中的法定受害者权利。\n\n动议人同时主张，本案检方在涉及债权人认定、证据披露以及破产托管程序相关事实方面存在持续性的信息遗漏与调查不足，该等行为已影响受害者的程序性权利。\n\n---\n\n二、受害者身份\n\n1. 动议人为因本案所涉行为遭受直接经济损失的投资人。\n2. 动议人损失与本案指控行为具有直接且近因关系。\n3. 因此符合18 U.S.C. §3771(e)所定义的犯罪受害者。\n\n---\n\n三、事实背景（基于公开材料及视频记录）\n\n（一）关于未披露的关键直播内容\n\n2023年1月10日及11日的公开直播中，已明确警告：\n\n- Gongzu 与 Julia 的债权申报存在问题。\n\n尽管存在上述警示，相关债权仍被接纳。\n\n检方在两年期间未就该事项展开充分调查。\n\n直到6月听证会上，托管人 Luc 才披露计划剔除约320亿美元非法债权。\n\n---\n\n（二）关于未提供完整视频证据\n\n检方在文件7、26、192中引用2023年1月11日及1月23日的网络发言作为指控依据，但：\n\n- 未提供完整视频链接\n- 未说明是否进行审查\n- 未披露完整上下文\n\n动议人认为，上述材料可能包含对被告有利的信息，属于应披露的Brady证据。\n\n---\n\n（三）关于关键解释被遗漏\n\n2023年1月23日视频中曾说明：\n\n若托管人接纳特定债权申报，则可能导致所有相关投资人均可申报债权，并将显著增加托管律师费与管理成本。\n\n该背景信息未被纳入检方呈交材料。\n\n---\n\n（四）关于破产程序信息未同步披露\n\n托管人 Luc 在破产法院已告知 Manning 法官计划剔除巨额非法债权，但该信息未同步向本案法院披露。\n\n动议人认为，该遗漏可能影响法院对案件事实背景的理解。\n\n---\n\n（五）关于长期未采取调查措施\n\n动议人认为，在较长时间内：\n\n- 检方未对相关债权真实性展开充分调查\n- 允许存在争议的债权人参与刑事资产没收程序\n\n该情形可能影响合法受害人的利益。\n\n---\n\n四、CVRA权利受到的影响\n\n根据18 U.S.C. §3771(a)，动议人认为以下权利已受到影响：\n\n1. 获得公平对待的权利\n2. 获得准确信息的权利\n3. 参与程序并被合理听取意见的权利\n4. 获得充分赔偿的权利\n\n动议人认为，若债权认定与证据披露不完整，将直接影响受害人赔偿分配。\n\n---\n\n五、请求法院裁定\n\n动议人请求法院：\n\nA. 确认动议人为本案犯罪受害者；\n\nB. 要求政府确认其已履行所有Brady披露义务；\n\nC. 要求政府披露与债权认定相关的完整公开材料及视频记录；\n\nD. 允许动议人提交损失证明并参与赔偿程序；\n\nE. 作出法院认为公正适当的其他裁定。\n\n---\n\n谨此提交\n\n签名：_____________\n\n姓名：_____________\n\n地址：_____________\n\n电话：_____________\n\n邮箱：_____________\n\n日期：_____________\n\n---\n\n送达证明\n\n本人证明已向美国检察官办公室送达本动议。\n\n签名：_____________","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ca33e00ddc79dd1e02e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q15607735eda41fce2dd3","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":156,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-17T08:26:57.089Z","text":"AI给我写的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15607735eda41fce2dd3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q007cff5519eac041c837","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":157,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T08:27:58.771Z","text":"这个要求很笼统","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9ca33e00ddc79dd1e02e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q007cff5519eac041c837","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ca33e00ddc79dd1e02e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q4f0f38d235aedc8a9e55","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":158,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T08:28:01.451Z","text":"要具体点","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f0f38d235aedc8a9e55","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qba78dda6b00be96e298a","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":159,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T08:29:21.670Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 你不如直接要求检方和luc探讨公布拱卒和julia的债权","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba78dda6b00be96e298a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qcac9f49bde4e035e6750","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":160,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T08:31:32.576Z","text":"你其实最重要的就是[屏蔽词]你的钱不能没收","edited":true,"reply_to":"q091a0ec18813ca79c140","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcac9f49bde4e035e6750","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q24562fcb6677230900a1","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":161,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T08:31:41.901Z","text":"然后你再指出程序问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q24562fcb6677230900a1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qa030be88d4858eac104e","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":162,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-17T08:32:02.017Z","text":"懂了 精简版瑞恩","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa030be88d4858eac104e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q744f839ca32046361e11","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":163,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T08:32:18.190Z","text":"你不要这么急","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q744f839ca32046361e11","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q996f6b1fa1cb5f084260","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":164,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T08:32:21.292Z","text":"多看几份","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q996f6b1fa1cb5f084260","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qad0b614be561219f62c5","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":165,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T08:32:23.553Z","text":"多研究一下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad0b614be561219f62c5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q60b51e1ad0c5c5bf6c88","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":166,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-17T08:33:28.977Z","text":"看到那几份要钱的就头疼","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60b51e1ad0c5c5bf6c88","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qb40709a7f7f579e71766","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":167,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T08:33:36.665Z","text":"慢慢来","edited":false,"reply_to":"q60b51e1ad0c5c5bf6c88","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb40709a7f7f579e71766","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60b51e1ad0c5c5bf6c88","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qc86da5f6d670e2c0322b","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":168,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T08:33:39.328Z","text":"按照自己理解","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc86da5f6d670e2c0322b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"qb8f56d611364a75be802","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":169,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T08:33:42.013Z","text":"不要抄","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb8f56d611364a75be802","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000079"},{"id":"q659c94ab99c9967c4304","batch_id":"batch-000079","seq":170,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-17T08:34:02.842Z","text":"［用户 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