{"id":"batch-000080","number":80,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-02-19T19:07:19.088Z","date_end":"2026-02-21T11:32:54.514Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 080 (Feb 19, 2026 – Feb 21, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Discussions center on procedural filings and the classification of victims and property. Participants dispute whether filings under 853n, 853i, 361, 364, and 785 constitute enforceable orders, whether consolidated actions share order numbers, and if CVRA, MVRA, or CIPA remedies can be reactivated in the Second Circuit. 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beg***］ 是你的吗？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8135044da15c4cca5a79","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qc0c0cde58d02b1f2b6ff","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":14,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2026-02-19T19:21:55.352Z","text":"还有量刑吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0c0cde58d02b1f2b6ff","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q744d567d705cd909f137","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":15,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2026-02-19T19:36:04.353Z","text":"364分享下？4个A也分享下？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q744d567d705cd909f137","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q377d0e302ca1b6a241f6","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":16,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-19T19:48:27.395Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 364你看看","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q377d0e302ca1b6a241f6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q71fd3dc27174ff3fa09b","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":17,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-19T19:49:11.793Z","text":"深水炸弹1-9","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71fd3dc27174ff3fa09b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qf44f1dc8bc2e862945a2","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":18,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-19T19:49:29.574Z","text":"深水炸弹 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pz0***］ 还能量刑吗😂","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d4e017ed5c798a99f8a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qe2e69f35be45a991ec8d","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":22,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-19T19:54:17.935Z","text":"［用户 pz0***］  瑞恩让我来问问你","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2e69f35be45a991ec8d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q0e2ea92a9bf6219ce89d","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":23,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-19T20:09:18.228Z","text":"因为4各强制令涉及的问题相似，所以并案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e2ea92a9bf6219ce89d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q42b6e81a4c6750448ec7","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":24,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-19T20:10:42.010Z","text":"原来364是法庭令，没有第五个人","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd2a5702549efd7fed9f0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42b6e81a4c6750448ec7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2a5702549efd7fed9f0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qf8b66f7312556f4efe9c","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":25,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-19T20:18:33.656Z","text":"不是，364是第五个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8b66f7312556f4efe9c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q3d6fa30adb576d003f17","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":26,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-19T20:18:39.327Z","text":"361是第四个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d6fa30adb576d003f17","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qe3f398574398f0e6bf1d","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":27,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-19T20:18:58.653Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3f398574398f0e6bf1d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q9a097cb3fd0c4c618535","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":28,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2026-02-19T20:19:23.816Z","text":"361重磅啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a097cb3fd0c4c618535","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qb43dd810080779f4b71b","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":29,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-19T20:20:04.284Z","text":"361就是传说中的深水炸弹","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9a097cb3fd0c4c618535","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb43dd810080779f4b71b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a097cb3fd0c4c618535","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qb92bebfd06fb706d8c28","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":30,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2026-02-19T20:20:26.164Z","text":"托大人压制有功啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb92bebfd06fb706d8c28","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q667adbe4e061dc6c7b60","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":31,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-19T20:21:39.343Z","text":"正赶上粪青鼓动853n写动议，好好宣传一下，让这些写动议的把361引用上就牛逼了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q667adbe4e061dc6c7b60","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qc4586de1b84fea00d329","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":32,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-19T20:21:57.695Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4586de1b84fea00d329","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q984dc09ec3f28f45d8f0","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":33,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-19T20:23:02.053Z","text":"哈哈 重磅 已经不能形容了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9a097cb3fd0c4c618535","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q984dc09ec3f28f45d8f0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a097cb3fd0c4c618535","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q74871999699b064a0c98","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":34,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2026-02-19T20:40:39.851Z","text":"改变了案子的性质, tony能坚持到现在并写出这份材料太不容易了👍","edited":false,"reply_to":"q984dc09ec3f28f45d8f0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74871999699b064a0c98","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q984dc09ec3f28f45d8f0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q18c01041945fa0b87ec7","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":35,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-19T20:41:22.435Z","text":"现在可以提共产党了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q74871999699b064a0c98","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18c01041945fa0b87ec7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74871999699b064a0c98","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qa6eb473f5f281eeffdfb","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":36,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-19T20:41:49.322Z","text":"共产党判了一个人 然后同一笔资金 同一个事情 在美国又判一次","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6eb473f5f281eeffdfb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q0e9c8636d384a01f68d3","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":37,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-19T20:41:54.603Z","text":"主权 身份冲突","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e9c8636d384a01f68d3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q486c4609ef6125b6e0a6","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":38,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-19T20:42:39.420Z","text":"尤其墙内被公安威胁过的，你们的机会来啦","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q486c4609ef6125b6e0a6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q85474fbdee5a33530917","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":39,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-19T20:43:31.808Z","text":"主权身份冲突 如果你是因为投资 被公安喝茶 并且记录在案","edited":false,"reply_to":"q486c4609ef6125b6e0a6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85474fbdee5a33530917","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q486c4609ef6125b6e0a6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qd45fb2e0c8c5dc721ba5","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":40,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-19T20:43:43.198Z","text":"然后你的投资又在检方的没收资金里","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd45fb2e0c8c5dc721ba5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qa7f6e348b2e5dca3c8e9","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":41,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-19T20:43:51.654Z","text":"那么你就构成了主权身份冲突","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7f6e348b2e5dca3c8e9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q9f99330aace21fc59c5c","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":42,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-19T20:44:09.158Z","text":"你的这部分没收资金 被共产党司法污染了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f99330aace21fc59c5c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q3176009c4479b1a23376","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":43,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-19T20:44:09.159Z","text":"那这个并案命令到底是几号？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf8b66f7312556f4efe9c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3176009c4479b1a23376","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8b66f7312556f4efe9c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q2396daa4cd63da7b2c6d","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":44,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-19T20:44:21.306Z","text":"364是 Doe","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2396daa4cd63da7b2c6d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qc9d563ee1a4f544e9d44","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":45,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-19T20:44:21.392Z","text":"每个人都有那个命令","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3176009c4479b1a23376","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9d563ee1a4f544e9d44","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3176009c4479b1a23376","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qb27ab80082ad65ed5cda","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":46,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-19T20:44:23.854Z","text":"包括你的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb27ab80082ad65ed5cda","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q825c3caabbe9ee9a1b14","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":47,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-19T20:44:44.500Z","text":"没有单独的一个号吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q825c3caabbe9ee9a1b14","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q4ec4582cd2695c41990b","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":48,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-19T20:45:05.569Z","text":"你去pacer看看你的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q825c3caabbe9ee9a1b14","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ec4582cd2695c41990b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q825c3caabbe9ee9a1b14","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qf5f7a944a24186e4d6d2","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":49,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-02-19T20:49:03.575Z","text":"与 Gemini 对话\n你说\n翻译一下这份强制令\n\nGemini 说\n这是一份向美国第二巡回上诉法院提交的强制令（执行令状）申请 (Petition for Writ of Mandamus) 。申请人名为 Tony，是 United States v. Kwok（郭文贵案）中的一名犯罪受害人 。\n+2\n\n以下是该法律文件的核心内容详细翻译与梳理：\n\n一、 案件核心诉求 (引言与争议焦点)\n\n申请基础：Tony 根据《犯罪受害人权利法》(CVRA) 和联邦上诉程序规则，正式向法院申请强制令 。\n\n\n核心问题：申请人向纽约南区联邦法院 (SDNY) 提交了多份关于其财产权利和受害人权利的法律文件，但地方法院数月来既未将这些文件“登记入卷 (docketed)”，也未进行裁决或承认 。\n+1\n\n\n不平等待遇：在2026年1月的听证会上，法院将申请人的 CVRA 文件降级定性为普通的“投诉 (complaints)”，这意味着这些文件得不到正式审理 。这剥夺了申请人被合理听取的法定权利，并实质上阻断了其未来提起上诉的途径 。\n+2\n\n\n诉求：申请人并不要求上诉法院裁决具体的量刑或没收金额，而是要求法院下达强制令，强制地方法院将其提交的文件正式登记入卷并给予程序性审理，以确保其法定权利不被直接抹杀 。\n+1\n\n二、 案件背景与跨境冲突\n\n同一笔资金的双重定性：申请人在2020-2021年参与了与郭文贵相关的 G 系列投资 。这些普通的个人投资，在中国被当局定性为“资助危害国家安全犯罪活动罪”，而在美国的刑事程序中则被视为欺诈收益 。\n+4\n\n\n政治迫害与逃亡：因这些投资，申请人遭到了中国警方的搜查、扣押护照和审讯，并面临被迫认罪的压力 。申请人在面临五年以上重刑的威胁下逃离中国，并在途中遭遇严重事故导致身心受创 。\n+3\n\n\n面临的困境：在美国，申请人被行政上视为受害人，但由于法院未登记其文件，导致美国 SEC 的 GTV 公平基金也以“没有法院记录”为由拒绝退还其资金，给身在海外且丧失工作能力的申请人造成了极大的经济困难 。\n+1\n\n三、 程序违规与正当程序问题\n\n身份分类矛盾：申请人在中国被指控危害国家安全，在美国被视为金融受害人，这两种截然不同的法律定性缺乏程序机制来进行审查或调和 。\n+1\n\n\n未经验证的受害人名单：检方和法院依赖一份未经核实的受害人名单，且未给予受影响个人程序性验证的机会 。\n\n\n外国干预影响：中国安全人员在搜查时未记录就扣押了其护照，这是一种政治控制手段，实质上损害了申请人诉诸美国法院寻求救济的能力 。\n\n四、 签发强制令的法律依据\n申请人指出，其请求符合签发强制令的条件 ：\n\n\n无其他救济途径：法院将其文件视为“投诉”而非动议，不仅不予审理，还彻底切断了上诉的可能 。\n\n\n明确的权利：CVRA 明确保障了受害人被合理听取、获得公平尊重的对待的权利 。\n\n\n干预的必要性：如果不下达强制令，量刑、赔偿和资产没收程序将建立在不完整的记录之上，造成不可挽回的伤害 。\n\n五、 寻求的具体救济 (Relief Sought)\n命令地方法院将隐去了个人信息的 CVRA 动议（附件D）在纽约南区法院 (SDNY) 登记入卷 。\n\n对申请人保全上诉记录的请求作出迅速、公开登记的程序性处理，以明确该文件在地方法院记录中的状态 。\n\n附：附件D (提交给 Torres 法官的动议) 摘要\n附件D详细列出了申请人认为法院系统性违反的几项核心权利：\n\n\n违反《犯罪受害人权利法》(CVRA)：剥夺了其作为受害人的地位、被听取的权利、公平对待权，以及免受进一步伤害的保护 。\n\n\n违反第五修正案正当程序：法院在明知申请人面临外国迫害生命危险的情况下，无视其风险，剥夺其参与影响财产和受害人认定程序的权利 。\n\n\n违反平等保护条款：对待面临外国迫害的真实受害人与无根据的债权登记人存在差别对待 。\n\n\n无视法院固有权力：无视诉讼当事人面临的外国干涉和迫害风险 。\n\n如果您需要针对其中某个特定部分（如复杂的法律论证细节或具体的背景事实）的逐字翻译，请随时告诉我！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5f7a944a24186e4d6d2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q1342ab815fab5ec9dfac","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":50,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2026-02-19T21:00:28.068Z","text":"364 历数了luc, 检方，托大人所作之恶；把以前没说透的问题说透了，要求luc必须出庭👍","edited":false,"reply_to":"q21e3602cc7e65f2444a4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1342ab815fab5ec9dfac","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21e3602cc7e65f2444a4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q1531e8124aa93687577c","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":51,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-19T21:00:42.666Z","text":"我操 哈哈 我还没看364","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1342ab815fab5ec9dfac","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1531e8124aa93687577c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1342ab815fab5ec9dfac","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qb77349c8e76253d13271","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":52,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-19T21:03:45.380Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":"qcff58cce09777b2aba28","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb77349c8e76253d13271","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q46a5f3ea72dbac05f48f","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":53,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-19T21:08:39.871Z","text":"怎么我的gpt给的摘要里没有提LUC","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1342ab815fab5ec9dfac","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46a5f3ea72dbac05f48f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1342ab815fab5ec9dfac","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q95bcc8187c60db6f0f09","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":54,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2026-02-19T21:10:20.402Z","text":"我是原文翻译过来看的，在6,7,8三页\n事实陈述的 D 部分","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95bcc8187c60db6f0f09","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q8127bb3d6319321dcf11","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":55,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-19T21:10:58.210Z","text":"怎么我的ai都开始玩儿这套了，总是丢三落四.昨天是gemini，今天是gpt","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8127bb3d6319321dcf11","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q16a23e9ec68e12c5945f","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":56,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2026-02-19T21:12:20.039Z","text":"361 364看的太激动了，想出了两句打油诗：“中华自古多英豪，血誓轩辕斩魑魅。”","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16a23e9ec68e12c5945f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qec1e0e2be6fee13e0e17","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":57,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-19T21:12:35.425Z","text":"是我的提示词有问题吗？我就让他出个中文摘要，好多内容就不提了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec1e0e2be6fee13e0e17","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q587144a407099545dd2d","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":58,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2026-02-19T21:13:37.923Z","text":"反正我一段一段复制粘贴让ChatGPT 翻译的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q587144a407099545dd2d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q8fb78b4fff94f2272244","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":59,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-02-19T21:14:06.873Z","text":"我觉得翻译还是Gemini 更好","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8fb78b4fff94f2272244","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q91702c566dce17f939bb","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":60,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-19T21:14:14.544Z","text":"这下南区动议里的问题都慢慢到二巡展示出来了，托雷斯不上传已经没啥意义了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1342ab815fab5ec9dfac","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91702c566dce17f939bb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1342ab815fab5ec9dfac","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q155a446185d37d512ade","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":61,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-19T21:15:12.344Z","text":"我想偷懒，AI也想偷懒","edited":false,"reply_to":"q587144a407099545dd2d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q155a446185d37d512ade","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q587144a407099545dd2d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q88fc22b927e02601df47","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":62,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-19T21:15:18.952Z","text":"并案命令是在强制令的docket 里面的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3176009c4479b1a23376","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q88fc22b927e02601df47","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3176009c4479b1a23376","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q313636cf1261ad1af1f3","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":63,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-19T21:15:33.020Z","text":"它总是偷工减料，有些内容莫名其妙消失了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8fb78b4fff94f2272244","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q313636cf1261ad1af1f3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8fb78b4fff94f2272244","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q162451ba2886d1d1e9ff","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":64,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-19T21:16:17.800Z","text":"一段是多少？一页吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q587144a407099545dd2d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q162451ba2886d1d1e9ff","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q587144a407099545dd2d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qe373d7c8e70b9bed6eae","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":65,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2026-02-19T21:16:34.343Z","text":"翻译的时候提示词是：“翻译成中文，保持原意”","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe373d7c8e70b9bed6eae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q2caaa875f367a2b04662","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":66,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-02-19T21:17:11.571Z","text":"gemini3翻译的时候，你要加上一句，完完整整翻译，不要做任何解释。要不然，就是简化版","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2caaa875f367a2b04662","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q07db044381a65e40c7cf","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":67,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2026-02-19T21:17:23.727Z","text":"可以很长，你把原文放在提示词后面，别太长就行\n有时候我会复制黏贴2到3页 pdf 的内容，翻译一次","edited":false,"reply_to":"q162451ba2886d1d1e9ff","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07db044381a65e40c7cf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q162451ba2886d1d1e9ff","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q2ec9bdd339b1993e2785","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":68,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-19T21:19:11.965Z","text":"26-364强制令总结：\n一、文件性质与目的\n这是申请人向美国第二巡回上诉法院提交的：\n强制令申请（Petition for Writ of Mandamus）\n目的：\n要求上诉法院命令纽约南区联邦地区法院（SDNY）：\n必须正式立案（docket）申请人的 §853(n) 第三方财产权申请\n并依法进行附属听证程序（ancillary proceeding）\n因为申请人认为地区法院拒绝立案，导致其法定权利被剥夺。\n二、申请人身份与基本立场\n申请人自称：\n是第三方财产权益人（third-party claimant）\n是G-series投资者\n投资金额达数十万美元以上\n投资资金合法来源\n投资时不知道任何犯罪行为\n并明确声明：\n申请人不是郭文贵的CVRA犯罪受害者\n而是：\n无辜所有人（innocent owner）或合法财产所有人\n三、申请人提出的核心请求\n申请人请求第二巡回法院命令地区法院：\n1. 强制地区法院立案\n命令法院：\ndocket 其853(n) petition\n不得继续压制或忽视\n申请人认为：\n地区法院的拒绝立案：\n已经实质剥夺其法定权利\n2. 强制举行853(n)附属程序听证\n要求：\n举行证据听证会\n允许申请人证明：\n其财产权属于合法所有人\n3. 要求政府和破产受托人提供完整资产和债权人清单\n申请人要求：\n政府和受托人 Luc：\n必须提供：\n完整债权人名单\n每个债权金额\n验证证明\n申请人认为：\n目前所谓：\n“320亿美元债权”\n未经核实\n4. 要求法院调查受托人资金使用情况\n申请人指控：\n破产受托人：\n已经花费约6600万美元\n主要用于律师费\n申请人认为：\n这属于：\n信托资产浪费\n四、申请人对地区法院的主要指控\n申请人提出多个严重指控：\n指控1：地区法院拒绝立案其申请\n申请人称：\n其：\n2025年9月29日提交853(n)申请\n但：\n至今未立案\n无理由\n无裁决\n无听证\n指控2：地区法院存在偏袒和不公\n申请人称：\n法院允许：\n其他申请人立案\n但拒绝其申请\n例如：\n律师代理申请\n或声称自己是受害者的人\n指控3：秘密程序和程序不透明\n申请人称：\n法院举行会议：\n讨论：\n853(n) remission special master\n但：\n拒绝公众电话旁听\n申请人认为：\n违反公开司法原则\n五、申请人对政府的严重指控\n申请人指控政府：\n指控1：政府使用未经验证的受害者数据\n政府称：\n存在“数千受害者”\n但申请人称：\n政府无法提供名单\n指控2：政府非法扣押G-series资产\n申请人称：\n资金：\n没有丢失\n仍然存在\n政府扣押：\n属于非法行为\n指控3：政府制造“受害者”\n申请人认为：\n政府扣押资产后\n才造成投资人损失\n六、申请人对CVRA受害者身份的立场\n申请人明确声明：\n申请人：\n不是郭文贵犯罪受害者\n而是：\n合法投资者\n并要求法院：\n不得将其列为受害者\n七、申请人认为Mandamus是唯一救济\n申请人称：\n没有其他救济途径\n因为：\n地区法院：\n拒绝立案\n没有裁决\n无法上诉\n因此：\n只能请求第二巡回法院强制命令\n八、申请人最终请求\n申请人请求第二巡回法院：\n发布Mandamus：\n命令地区法院：\n主要包括：\n立案其853(n)申请\n举行听证\n保护其财产权\n提供资产和债权人完整信息\n纠正程序错误\n九、附件内容\n附件包括：\n2025年9月29日申请人的：\n原始853(n) petition\n申请人：\n声明：\n非CVRA受害者\n合法投资者\n请求返还资产\n十、总结一句话核心\n这是一个：\n第三方投资者请求上诉法院强制地区法院立案并听证其财产所有权主张的Mandamus申请。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ec9bdd339b1993e2785","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q3a675ceabb84ddd4e33a","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":69,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-02-19T21:27:33.859Z","text":"364非常重磅啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a675ceabb84ddd4e33a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q15dc049520047f4f5d84","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":70,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2026-02-19T21:31:01.538Z","text":"需要赶紧通知墓碑科技写文儿介绍361 364","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15dc049520047f4f5d84","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q0055715c2feb9fcc11b3","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":71,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2026-02-19T21:31:47.386Z","text":"让 taga 先写起来🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0055715c2feb9fcc11b3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qeca0164b592c63ce9127","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":72,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-02-19T21:32:34.278Z","text":"墓碑科技传播量大，这两个强制令联盟该不会讨论吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeca0164b592c63ce9127","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q89669a850b27e101ef93","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":73,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2026-02-19T21:33:52.286Z","text":"361 仔细介绍一下，PV估计要上 10万+","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q89669a850b27e101ef93","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qfee4a0f19a193f46e82d","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":74,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-02-19T21:36:00.275Z","text":"我还在仔细看361和364","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfee4a0f19a193f46e82d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qbde2f83a6e5cddd584d3","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":75,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-19T21:45:30.301Z","text":"https://x.com/[删节：隐私信息]/status/2024601012762284184?s=46","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbde2f83a6e5cddd584d3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q4c91abb146de475088dd","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":76,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-02-19T21:48:06.852Z","text":"364的重点内容在5-7页，说得太透彻了。连法官电话会议的掐断电源的两个文件790和791都写进去了。\n好过瘾呀！😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c91abb146de475088dd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q6035175392f1cb1b8f68","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":77,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-02-19T21:48:37.600Z","text":"Doe 应该是beginning","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6035175392f1cb1b8f68","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qbdaac2738b694f2f1c83","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":78,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-02-19T21:49:32.055Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 应该是引用CVRA 吧？","edited":true,"reply_to":"qfb0235ab4bb7db68c4a7","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbdaac2738b694f2f1c83","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q2aa2fa88499cf2b05622","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":79,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-19T21:50:20.492Z","text":"还有361，也是群里的吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2aa2fa88499cf2b05622","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q364b3d87ab714e02c8b4","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":80,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-02-19T21:50:32.267Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2aa2fa88499cf2b05622","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q364b3d87ab714e02c8b4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2aa2fa88499cf2b05622","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q1ea67c67d5507be04171","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":81,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-02-19T21:50:43.703Z","text":"瑞恩观察者知道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ea67c67d5507be04171","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q5a3841a6207cbf3da075","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":82,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-19T21:51:34.483Z","text":"361 瑞恩告诉我 叫tutu","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2aa2fa88499cf2b05622","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a3841a6207cbf3da075","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2aa2fa88499cf2b05622","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q22ccb08a6de968e20e1b","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":83,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-02-19T21:52:11.544Z","text":"好像以前群里偶尔说话","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22ccb08a6de968e20e1b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q2b9dffbae1fb702171bd","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":84,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-02-19T21:52:14.497Z","text":"对吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b9dffbae1fb702171bd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qb1b6c7b739eea8278152","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":85,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-19T21:52:28.012Z","text":"我这个推大伙转发一下，给那些响应粪青的人看，里面一定有被政治迫害的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbde2f83a6e5cddd584d3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1b6c7b739eea8278152","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbde2f83a6e5cddd584d3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q65800cec9727ac518938","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":86,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-19T21:53:17.692Z","text":"我怀疑 瑞恩 和tutu 狼狈为奸 搞的这个 🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65800cec9727ac518938","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qb4853b0538e8229f5e64","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":87,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-19T21:53:27.925Z","text":"所以都消失了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4853b0538e8229f5e64","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q23c1c80e789073e7318c","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":88,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-19T21:53:45.454Z","text":"墓碑在不在，小碑碑，给转发一下呗，你的能量大","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23c1c80e789073e7318c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qd129a192ad7c7849579a","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":89,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-19T21:54:20.566Z","text":"擦，忘了点名他了，我重发一下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd129a192ad7c7849579a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q4911bea8ce75b25e70ac","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":90,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-19T21:56:47.762Z","text":"364谁给来个完整翻译","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4911bea8ce75b25e70ac","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q6adbb2e63c39c543c901","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":91,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-19T21:59:53.009Z","text":"［用户 chu***］  那个推特群的链接再发一下","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6adbb2e63c39c543c901","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qf269e3a6a2847f69113d","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":92,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-02-19T22:00:50.450Z","text":"什么推特群","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf269e3a6a2847f69113d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q9c4707434c52a109da36","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":93,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-02-19T22:02:03.990Z","text":"这就像螺丝哥的东西也要靠身在美国的瑞恩来操作吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q65800cec9727ac518938","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c4707434c52a109da36","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65800cec9727ac518938","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qb5b2285212a3fca1205d","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":94,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-19T22:02:35.101Z","text":"你不是弄了一个X上的群吗，你天天跟内谁在那骂，后来我就退出来了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf269e3a6a2847f69113d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5b2285212a3fca1205d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf269e3a6a2847f69113d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q78ed3b16870ac0657692","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":95,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-19T22:02:37.111Z","text":"哈哈 可能这个也是瑞恩搞的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9c4707434c52a109da36","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78ed3b16870ac0657692","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c4707434c52a109da36","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q2ae42be37ed42d34e44c","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":96,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-02-19T22:04:33.122Z","text":"深水炸弹还不都是你一直以来在叫朗的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q78ed3b16870ac0657692","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ae42be37ed42d34e44c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78ed3b16870ac0657692","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qa98f8ec510121553c8b3","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":97,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-19T22:07:02.336Z","text":"是瑞恩告诉我","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2ae42be37ed42d34e44c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa98f8ec510121553c8b3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ae42be37ed42d34e44c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q4667fb0b76d8dd1894e0","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":98,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-02-19T22:13:31.705Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/2024608224432042078?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4667fb0b76d8dd1894e0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q254c47718f5bf7db8962","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":99,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-19T22:26:06.403Z","text":"小羊当时未必知道自诉这个渠道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q254c47718f5bf7db8962","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q3d820d544e3e57aa0c0d","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":100,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-19T22:39:25.339Z","text":"为啥二巡不拦着853了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d820d544e3e57aa0c0d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q276ede563bd329b0e79f","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":101,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-19T22:48:41.350Z","text":"国内被判的 已经被青藤污染啦啦啦啦啦啦啦啦","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3109b23eede6b437d025","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q276ede563bd329b0e79f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qd6283d91820285500647","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":102,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-19T22:49:39.864Z","text":"那也有利用价值，凑个人头","edited":false,"reply_to":"q276ede563bd329b0e79f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6283d91820285500647","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q276ede563bd329b0e79f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qef50cacddbb86bd69f4e","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":103,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-19T22:50:00.725Z","text":"万一再有几个不服气的上二巡呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef50cacddbb86bd69f4e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qf98f5ab93bb8852a0c10","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":104,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-19T23:05:10.809Z","text":"你应该直接叫他 尊敬的 peter律师😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe3b05e50093508702a5a","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf98f5ab93bb8852a0c10","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q067e111594a63505823e","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":105,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-02-19T23:07:59.482Z","text":"364也相当给力","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q067e111594a63505823e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qeab3fda7dfe6a6c91fae","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":106,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-19T23:31:03.794Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]  我现在告诉大家一个秘密 gtv为什么无罪","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeab3fda7dfe6a6c91fae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q9040b8e11e020e32a12f","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":107,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-19T23:31:14.504Z","text":"这是瑞恩发现的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9040b8e11e020e32a12f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q9789fea92a7343f4cec8","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":108,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-19T23:35:33.118Z","text":"https://x.com/Testurheart/status/2024628912798523681?s=20","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9789fea92a7343f4cec8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q74126b26c47815f45cc6","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":109,"speaker":"siy***","date":"2026-02-19T23:38:00.768Z","text":"为什么？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9040b8e11e020e32a12f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74126b26c47815f45cc6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9040b8e11e020e32a12f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qaeda00d891a3de70199f","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":110,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-19T23:42:07.857Z","text":"参照26-361 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他先被判过","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b09dd041c4a52d6c5c1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qde5e76e16b206aa2208c","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":113,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-19T23:42:49.616Z","text":"然后美国这里又变成检方口中受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde5e76e16b206aa2208c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q0c3e1654d32c59d95f88","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":114,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-19T23:43:08.499Z","text":"gtv有罪 当庭就会出现361的情况","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c3e1654d32c59d95f88","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q97806cb24efead40304d","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":115,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-19T23:43:14.592Z","text":"所以 gtv 必须无罪！！！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97806cb24efead40304d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qc6c55995378440a86685","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":116,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-19T23:43:58.715Z","text":"gtv有罪 这案子会出现当庭主权身份冲突","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6c55995378440a86685","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q9269a8f033762b87dea5","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":117,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-02-19T23:44:04.829Z","text":"这帮家伙也是鬼精的，在玩弄法律。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q97806cb24efead40304d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9269a8f033762b87dea5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97806cb24efead40304d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q09a658098daf4e2f8536","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":118,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-19T23:44:06.533Z","text":"然后污染到所有定罪 都有冲突","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q09a658098daf4e2f8536","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q3789eac6fa65852d4b25","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":119,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-19T23:47:34.381Z","text":"强制对财产进行核实清点，要求政府和受托人卢克提供所有索赔人的经认证的单独清单。此类清点是根据《美国法典》第21篇第853(n)条进行辅助程序的管辖权先决条件，以确保申请人的优先合法权益不会与未经证实的汇总指标错误地混淆。\n严格执行事实基础要求，基于对损失的个别化证明为没收建立事实基础。地区法院不得依据未经对抗性检验或独立损益审计核实的\"受害者群体\"概括性陈述，对请愿人的财产权进行裁决。\n364的这两个救济写得非常好","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3789eac6fa65852d4b25","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q6914f01442f9c7572b07","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":120,"speaker":"Sap***","date":"2026-02-19T23:53:10.280Z","text":"很遗憾，用户 [删节：隐私信息] 离开了 **郭文贵法庭文件，不禁言不删帖**。希望他一路好走。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6914f01442f9c7572b07","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q26c0313b259474a8cd94","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":121,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-19T23:54:29.317Z","text":"Doe是你不？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3789eac6fa65852d4b25","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26c0313b259474a8cd94","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3789eac6fa65852d4b25","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q87320d0766ba9ec78e38","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":122,"speaker":"Sap***","date":"2026-02-19T23:54:37.203Z","text":"欢迎 [删节：隐私信息] 来到 **郭文贵法庭文件，不禁言不删帖**! 你可以在聊天区交流郭文贵刑事案件，畅所欲言。这里有新老联盟农场羊帮质疑帮绝对不可能给你的言论自由。不禁言不删帖，唯一要求是不要在聊天区刷屏。这里所有言论只代表发言者自己的非专业个人意见，如有任何疑虑，请咨询专业人士。\n\n各房间功能说明：\n\n想快速了解郭文贵案件 ->  法庭文件分类索引，老郭案件内容\n想学习自诉 -> 自诉pro se 说明及参考\n想骂人 -> 对骂发泄房间\n想刷屏 -> 揭发自诉陷阱","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87320d0766ba9ec78e38","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qf35f00c0b818191e2121","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":123,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-20T00:04:16.292Z","text":"这一段的“事实背景陈述”在形式上是可以提出的，但它本身并不能自动产生法律权利，也不会因为存在中国的国家安全指控，就削弱或否定其在美国欺诈案中的潜在受害人或财产权主张。它属于背景性论述，而不是决定性法律论证。\n下面逐点客观分析其法律有效性。\n一、“同一笔资金在中国是国家安全犯罪，在美国是欺诈收益”\n这个陈述在法律逻辑上是成立的（作为事实背景），但它本身不决定美国案件结果。\n原因：\n美国法院判断的核心问题只有两个：\n资金是否属于欺诈收益（forfeitable proceeds）\n申请人是否有：\nownership interest\n或\nvictim loss\n美国法院不会依据中国法律定性来决定这两个问题。\n换句话说：\n中国如何定性\n≠\n美国法院必须接受该定性\n这是标准的：\ndual sovereignty principle（双重主权原则）\n二、“因投资而遭中国警方调查、护照被扣”\n这个论点：\n法律上属于背景事实，可以提出，但作用有限。\n它可以支持：\nsealing request（密封）\nredaction request（隐去身份）\nsafety concern argument\n但它本身：\n不会自动：\n产生 CVRA 权利\n或产生财产权\n三、“美国行政上视为受害人，但因未 docket 导致 SEC 拒绝退款”\n这一点需要区分两个层面：\n1. 如果 SEC 确实要求法院记录\n这是可能的。\nSEC Fair Fund 通常要求：\nproof of claim\n但：\nSEC Fair Fund 是独立程序\n不完全依赖：\nSDNY criminal docket\n2. SEC 拒绝退款\n这本身：\n不会自动证明\nSDNY 法院违法\n因为：\nSEC 有自己的 eligibility rules\n四、“双重定性冲突”这一论点本身\n在法律上：\n它可以解释申请人处境\n但：\n它本身不是一个独立法律权利\n美国法院不会因为这种冲突而：\n自动 granting relief\n五、最关键法律现实：美国法院真正关心的只有三个问题\n无论中国发生什么，\n美国法院只会问：\n问题 1\n申请人是否有财产权（853(n)）\n例如：\n合法投资资金\n问题 2\n申请人是否因 fraud 直接损失（CVRA）\n问题 3\n申请人是否参与 fraud\n如果参与 fraud：\n可能被排除\n中国国家安全指控：\n本身\n不会自动回答这三个问题。\n六、这一段 argument 的法律强度评级\n分开看：\n内容\n法律有效性\n双重定性背景\n可以提出\n外国调查\n可以提出\n证明财产权\n不能自动证明\n证明 victim status\n不能自动证明\n支持 mandamus\n较弱\n七、最重要关键点：\n它不会损害申请人在美国的 victim 或 ownership 主张\n也不会自动帮助 fraud defendant\n美国法院不会因为中国指控：\n就认为：\n申请人不是 victim\n八、它真正的法律作用是什么\n现实作用只有两个：\n作用 1\n解释为什么申请人要求：\nsealed filing\n作用 2\n解释 urgency\n不是：\n核心法律 entitlement\n九、Second Circuit 在 mandamus 中最关心的不是这些内容\n而是：\ndistrict court 是否错误拒绝 docket\n这才是决定 mandamus 的关键。\n十、最准确法律结论\n你的截图中的 argument：\n法律上：\n可以提出\n但属于：\n背景性 argument\n不是：\n决定性 argument\n不会单独决定：\nvictim status\nownership\nmandamus outcome\n十一、最重要现实总结\n外国 prosecution：\n不会自动：\n否定\n也不会自动：\n证明\n美国 fraud victim 身份\n美国法院独立判断。\n如果你愿意，我可以进一步分析一个更关键问题：\n在郭文贵案件中，G-Series 投资者在什么情况下会被法院认定为：\nvictim\nowner\nor excluded claimant\n这是直接影响资金返还的核心问题。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf35f00c0b818191e2121","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q25b0faaec4834c9efe57","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":124,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-20T00:17:46.081Z","text":"客观地说，即使能证明有个别投资人是被中国政府逼迫而作出虚假受害人报告，法律后果主要集中在这些报告本身及相关程序环节，不会自动推翻整个联邦欺诈案件或定罪。影响大小取决于两个核心问题：范围和依赖程度。\n下面按美国联邦刑事程序逐项说明：\n一、对这些“被迫作假报告”的投资人本身\n如果法院认定某些受害人报告不真实或不可靠，最直接后果是：\n1. 他们不会被认定为受害人\n结果：\n不能获得 restitution（刑事赔偿）\n不能参与没收资金分配\n不能主张 CVRA 权利\n法院只承认真实、经证实的损失。\n2. 他们的陈述会被排除或降低可信度\n在刑事程序中：\n法院可以忽略这些陈述\n或认定其证词不可信\n这属于证据权重问题。\n二、对整个欺诈案件本身的影响：通常有限\n关键法律问题是：\n检方是否仍有独立证据证明欺诈。\n联邦欺诈案件通常依赖：\n银行记录\n资金流向\n被告陈述\n公司文件\n电子证据\n而不是仅仅依赖受害人主观陈述。\n因此：\n即使部分受害人报告被排除，\n案件仍可能成立。\n三、只有在一种特殊情况下，才可能产生重大影响\n如果能够证明：\n大量受害人报告是虚假的\n检方严重依赖这些虚假报告作为核心证据\n且执法机关明知或鲁莽忽视其虚假性\n那么理论上可能：\n挑战某些搜查令或逮捕令\n挑战部分证据 admissibility\n但这需要非常强的证据。\n四、对赔偿金额和受害人数量可能产生影响\n如果部分受害人被排除：\n可能影响：\nrestitution 分配对象\nvictim count\n但不会自动减少：\nforfeiture（刑事没收）金额，\n因为没收基于 fraud proceeds，而不是 victim claims 数量。\n五、对郭文贵案件定罪本身：通常不会改变\n除非虚假报告：\n是定罪的关键基础，\n并且没有其他证据支持，\n否则：\n定罪不会因个别虚假报告而自动推翻。\n六、对提出虚假报告的人可能产生的法律风险\n理论上，如果在美国程序中故意作出虚假陈述，\n可能涉及：\nfalse statements（18 U.S.C. § 1001）\nperjury（如果在宣誓下）\n但如果他们能证明是被强迫，\n执法机关通常会重点关注事实真实性，而不是追究这些人的责任。\n七、对 mandamus 或 CVRA 程序的影响\n如果有人能证明：\n受害人名单中存在虚假报告，\n可能用于支持：\n请求法院审查 victim list\n请求法院听取其反对意见\n但仍需具体证据。\n八、总结（最关键结论）\n如果证明部分投资人被中国政府逼迫报假案：\n最直接影响是：\n这些人不会被认定为受害人\n不会获得赔偿\n但通常不会自动：\n推翻欺诈定罪\n或使整个案件无效\n关键取决于：\n检方是否有独立证据证明欺诈。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25b0faaec4834c9efe57","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q1f6586a503bda4f8d651","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":125,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-02-20T00:20:00.351Z","text":"361 ， 364 都是这个群的， 太牛叉了！\n\n深水炸弹终于引爆了， 祝贺瑞恩等！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f6586a503bda4f8d651","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q613722313bde30b887b8","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":126,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-20T00:20:22.177Z","text":"364是你的吗 [删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q613722313bde30b887b8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q607f829d051656f731dc","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":127,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-02-20T00:23:35.893Z","text":"大家现在都聚焦在你的身上，觉得364很有可能是你写的，因为用的是853n, 而且投资金额比较大。你也算是群里的有钱佬。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1f6586a503bda4f8d651","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q607f829d051656f731dc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f6586a503bda4f8d651","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q39db7b147b4902bcc690","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":128,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T00:24:20.619Z","text":"https://x.com/Testurheart/status/2024641112376229960?s=20","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39db7b147b4902bcc690","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qc4af6cd4b586b819703a","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":129,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T00:25:30.963Z","text":"所以364就是你写的咯？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4af6cd4b586b819703a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q4bb28a4c945795b968fb","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":130,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T00:25:54.401Z","text":"364里用的是她","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4bb28a4c945795b968fb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q6e44d75deb17e4d010ca","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":131,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T00:28:31.571Z","text":"现在托雷斯是费力顶雷挨骂又不讨好，动议里的东西大部分都到二巡来了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e44d75deb17e4d010ca","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q91e6a899fc55529560b4","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":132,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-02-20T00:30:49.825Z","text":"星星啦啦的两个礼拜？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcada25a0eaba09b189ce","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91e6a899fc55529560b4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q980569e7b746d1d65365","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":133,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T00:31:22.871Z","text":"你们都写这么全了 我们重复写不是脱裤子放屁吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q980569e7b746d1d65365","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q5ad99dee6a1134ba04b7","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":134,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-02-20T00:31:28.494Z","text":"大家在给二巡写petition的时候， 自己根据自己的情况写好后，用Gemini ， 一个句子一个句子的让它用二巡熟悉的法律语言写， 一个字一个字的推敲。 在用GEMINI的时候，即使您不用电脑，也不要关闭它，它就会不间断的把信息整理，给出好的答案，有时候要换个问法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ad99dee6a1134ba04b7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q60349d63081d92ada928","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":135,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-02-20T00:33:36.001Z","text":"我用的是免费的Gemini。还一直给我推荐二巡喜欢、能接受的话术/语言😎","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60349d63081d92ada928","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qc940b82cb5b95cde849c","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":136,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T00:34:33.765Z","text":"二巡就是前面的文件不给你登记入案 上访的意思咯","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc940b82cb5b95cde849c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q9b33608aac75e9501507","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":137,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-02-20T00:34:44.727Z","text":"激动啊。这是第二次，就给上了 我还以为会第三次 第四次呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b33608aac75e9501507","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q7c9cb0ae7b175aac92d7","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":138,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T00:35:11.696Z","text":"希望你能上最高法","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9b33608aac75e9501507","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c9cb0ae7b175aac92d7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b33608aac75e9501507","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q4af6c453ef0c3ca6d4c3","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":139,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-02-20T00:35:31.156Z","text":"别提了。这些年受了不少qi","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4af6c453ef0c3ca6d4c3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q19fcf717508fc7c2c007","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":140,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-02-20T00:36:19.565Z","text":"她暂时不需要上最高法了，先在功劳簿上躺个够再说。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7c9cb0ae7b175aac92d7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19fcf717508fc7c2c007","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c9cb0ae7b175aac92d7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q5a31f5717013c7d19a4f","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":141,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-02-20T00:36:21.029Z","text":"等老郭出来的时候 咱们再庆祝","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a31f5717013c7d19a4f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q0c441358e8945cc2c4b5","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":142,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-20T00:37:42.924Z","text":"如果二巡强制令立案不是玄学。那么364与我的未被强制令的区别是。364的853更纯粹。而我用里面用检方文件来证明了我有853和cvra资格，我当时认为我陈述我有这个资格并不等于我我在引用cvra介入，我引用的介入法条只有853n，所以我不会认为这有问题，但看二巡的操作，你只要不明确不是受害者，它都把你当受害者，然后按照受害者强制令来审查，然后只要提到luc,就用25-2726的裁决来堵你。所以要用853申请强制令，需要明确自己不是受害者，法院不要把自己归为受害者。供大家参考。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c441358e8945cc2c4b5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q989c9393f1b5eb309f37","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":143,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-02-20T00:37:44.769Z","text":"我觉得[删节：成员身份] 也是很有潜力的，加油！","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q989c9393f1b5eb309f37","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qa7ea4ef3004c2ab7bdf1","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":144,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T00:38:36.092Z","text":"强制令上了 意思就是二巡同意你的说法了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7ea4ef3004c2ab7bdf1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qbae338b57673a0c49aff","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":145,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-02-20T00:39:01.998Z","text":"不是。只是立了案。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa7ea4ef3004c2ab7bdf1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbae338b57673a0c49aff","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7ea4ef3004c2ab7bdf1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q7f0ecd2669be2959b7fa","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":146,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T00:39:41.077Z","text":"不影响我继续说程序不正义吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbae338b57673a0c49aff","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f0ecd2669be2959b7fa","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbae338b57673a0c49aff","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qab0dbc73ee7e127587e2","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":147,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T00:39:47.150Z","text":"二巡立案就意味着被拦住了，直到二巡驳回","edited":false,"reply_to":"q19fcf717508fc7c2c007","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab0dbc73ee7e127587e2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19fcf717508fc7c2c007","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q8b503a4e3c063e37fc7b","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":148,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-20T00:39:52.078Z","text":"可否分享一下，在第二份强制令里，作出了哪些调整，才导致第二份被立案的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5a31f5717013c7d19a4f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b503a4e3c063e37fc7b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a31f5717013c7d19a4f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q7775b18a336523031d6b","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":149,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-20T00:40:04.044Z","text":"不是，我觉得二巡立案没什么规律","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0c441358e8945cc2c4b5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7775b18a336523031d6b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c441358e8945cc2c4b5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qaf352f8816cff2339f6e","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":150,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-20T00:40:23.254Z","text":"那就是玄学了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7775b18a336523031d6b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf352f8816cff2339f6e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7775b18a336523031d6b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qd9005130fce045cc6dfe","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":151,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-02-20T00:40:48.529Z","text":"最起码你说的话有人听到，而不是放屁。\n网上有名。这是最大的荣耀。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa7ea4ef3004c2ab7bdf1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd9005130fce045cc6dfe","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7ea4ef3004c2ab7bdf1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q829a77c01d8712df5c1c","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":152,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T00:41:08.634Z","text":"有道理","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q829a77c01d8712df5c1c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qbe770f6484d4a9a23368","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":153,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-20T00:41:18.593Z","text":"如果说有就是看1.你是不是穷尽了一切手段2.现在有没有和你相似的强制令3.时机对不对4.如果不立案你，你会不会一直来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe770f6484d4a9a23368","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q6aee485ce8207e7c5be0","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":154,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-20T00:41:49.250Z","text":"364那个一写就是50页，二巡估计都看蒙了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6aee485ce8207e7c5be0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qeb1cf8f1a634779cf796","batch_id"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docketing 多次，穷尽一切手段，现在853n快开始了，他的动议还没上传","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe621bd1a8332dacb38ab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qa2e25a52897226749ac6","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":157,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-20T00:45:57.658Z","text":"这还是解释不了，都是853，都是相似，都有compel，364立案。可能她正文写得好，compel的次数比我多，然后是第二次申请强制令。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa2e25a52897226749ac6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q47ef0bb32fb083af142a","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":158,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-20T00:46:27.011Z","text":"可能是时机的问题，二巡现在想立一个853n的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa2e25a52897226749ac6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47ef0bb32fb083af142a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa2e25a52897226749ac6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q088b1f2f492a40096418","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":159,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T00:46:31.401Z","text":"你再来一次可能就通过了呢","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa2e25a52897226749ac6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q088b1f2f492a40096418","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa2e25a52897226749ac6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q0584e6f3d829498c59cc","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":160,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T00:46:52.558Z","text":"早知道我就不用换成CVRA了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q47ef0bb32fb083af142a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0584e6f3d829498c59cc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47ef0bb32fb083af142a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q98d8ed34c1e2e63b87c3","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":161,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T00:48:05.749Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ 问问瑞恩，要不要针对不让提中共再给南区和二巡写封信","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q98d8ed34c1e2e63b87c3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qf4b9f261c3784ce2f237","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":162,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-20T00:50:52.675Z","text":"之前还是cvra立案概率大，853n是现在南区要处理了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0584e6f3d829498c59cc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4b9f261c3784ce2f237","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0584e6f3d829498c59cc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qd5b561a1d7d883e8244d","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":163,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-20T00:51:00.452Z","text":"有了这个364施加压力，拖累斯应该会列出853听证日程了，不列出然后被强制开听证就不好了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5b561a1d7d883e8244d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qf2f7c33d7675130c8b3c","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":164,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T00:51:48.717Z","text":"她不是要找人干吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd5b561a1d7d883e8244d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2f7c33d7675130c8b3c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5b561a1d7d883e8244d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qeb93a89becc3d4952dba","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":165,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-02-20T00:52:21.648Z","text":"第一份纯粹就是自己写的事实；第二份在自己写的基础上用GEMINI 要它用二巡的语言改写。 第一次被拒绝二巡给的理由是 不是CVRA。 第二次我明确的说， petitioner objects the courts label 我为CVRA ， 并且用一个专题，讲述CVRA 与 non CVRA","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8b503a4e3c063e37fc7b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb93a89becc3d4952dba","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b503a4e3c063e37fc7b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q0a535c009f3a8450f3bf","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":166,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T00:53:40.915Z","text":"你们在哪里看有没有被上传的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a535c009f3a8450f3bf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qbc713bea61166b6382b8","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":167,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-20T00:53:57.887Z","text":"谢谢。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeb93a89becc3d4952dba","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc713bea61166b6382b8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb93a89becc3d4952dba","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q092b73ca6b402840dfb8","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":168,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T00:54:53.137Z","text":"我当时是怕853到期，不换就没机会发声了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf4b9f261c3784ce2f237","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q092b73ca6b402840dfb8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4b9f261c3784ce2f237","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q30661b4472304996368a","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":169,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-02-20T00:54:54.412Z","text":"所以我写完 打印完 在这里 R 共匪八倍祖宗来着😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeb1cf8f1a634779cf796","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30661b4472304996368a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb1cf8f1a634779cf796","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qafe1043b8e364b518775","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":170,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-20T00:55:10.069Z","text":"那个治安官没有权力开听证，只有法官才有。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf2f7c33d7675130c8b3c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qafe1043b8e364b518775","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2f7c33d7675130c8b3c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q2dc8fd8cfa5738cd4488","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":171,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-02-20T00:56:37.964Z","text":"瑞恩那个深水炸弹爆了，361！那是大新闻！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2dc8fd8cfa5738cd4488","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q3aea8d77221f08dbdffb","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":172,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-02-20T00:58:13.227Z","text":"就一次compel 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