{"id":"batch-000080","number":80,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-02-19T19:07:19.088Z","date_end":"2026-02-21T11:32:54.514Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 080 (Feb 19, 2026 – Feb 21, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Discussions center on procedural filings and the classification of victims and property. Participants dispute whether filings under 853n, 853i, 361, 364, and 785 constitute enforceable orders, whether consolidated actions share order numbers, and if CVRA, MVRA, or CIPA remedies can be reactivated in the Second Circuit. Further debates address the disposition of Mahwah, whether GTV belongs in criminal forfeiture, Brady disclosures, and conflicting AI interpretations, reflecting lingering procedural disagreements.","guide_en":[{"title":"Enforceability of Section 853 Provisions and Second Circuit Procedural Interventions","description":"Participants debate whether provisions under Section 853, 853(n), and 853(i) possess enforceable authority and question how the Second Circuit handles these proceedings.","message_ids":["qebac9d99ca533f896d28","qdf0be42da6ca400d16b0","q3d820d544e3e57aa0c0d"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qebac9d99ca533f896d28","summary_en":"ntp*** argues that this demonstrates Section 853 can also serve as a basis for an enforcement order."},{"message_id":"qdf0be42da6ca400d16b0","summary_en":"him*** asserts that it is now permitted."},{"message_id":"q3d820d544e3e57aa0c0d","summary_en":"ntp*** asks why the Second Circuit is no longer blocking proceedings under Section 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submitted false reports under Chinese government coercion would exclude them from restitution, it would not automatically invalidate the federal fraud conviction."}]},{"title":"Disputes Over the Disposition of the Mahwah Property and Required Court Orders","description":"Participants examine whether formal criminal court orders exist to authorize the auction or settlement of the Mahwah estate.","message_ids":["qcaadb9745f86c2d6071d","q92ede63a53703136bacf","q6f61e650570b3033c330"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qcaadb9745f86c2d6071d","summary_en":"chu*** asks whether a ruling was issued regarding the Mahwah estate or if it reflects an agreement between the prosecution and Luc Despins."},{"message_id":"q92ede63a53703136bacf","summary_en":"chu*** questions whether a judge authorized the property sale or if it was handled through a private arrangement."},{"message_id":"q6f61e650570b3033c330","summary_en":"reb*** contends that disposing of property tied to a criminal case strictly requires a 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托雷斯 检方 Luc惹的事儿 自己解决","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc749d4900a4070899fdb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c870f0a053db4ad2a0b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc749d4900a4070899fdb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qce62a1f98cb2912f8e07","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":202,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T02:20:02.840Z","text":"二巡也被收买了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce62a1f98cb2912f8e07","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qd9d708fca4b0ee8e5a21","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":203,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T02:20:13.503Z","text":"最高法也被收买","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd9d708fca4b0ee8e5a21","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qfc17a029b7bd01238203","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":204,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T02:20:41.914Z","text":"结案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc17a029b7bd01238203","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q84a94092823231348482","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":205,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T02:35:55.639Z","text":"检方 Luc 托雷斯 卖MAHWAH的事儿 还没完\n他们三个之间 可能会内讧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84a94092823231348482","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q4d2cda74550a484928db","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":206,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T02:42:33.871Z","text":"忘了哪个文件 检方有从中国司法部那边 得到郭转钱的证据\n也就是说两边司法互认 都属于 海洋法系？\n那么在中国投资GTV被判是危害国家 而不是欺诈 美国这边也要认","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d2cda74550a484928db","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q8c72c1147b17e466ae74","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":207,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2026-02-20T02:43:38.954Z","text":"https://x.com/qiqi7877/status/2024657239987179623?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c72c1147b17e466ae74","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q94b59f5e9589204d80e3","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":208,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T02:43:49.682Z","text":"这个 ［用户 pz0***］ 不可能不知道\n英美法条体系还不同\n大陆法系 海洋法系","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94b59f5e9589204d80e3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q2bcf896c2c3cf929a4c1","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":209,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-20T02:44:04.629Z","text":"https://x.com/no3mos/status/2024672139693973875?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2bcf896c2c3cf929a4c1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q86f2bb48a7c4ba934bce","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":210,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2026-02-20T02:44:30.913Z","text":"這個很早了，好像第一次庭審就露餡了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4d2cda74550a484928db","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86f2bb48a7c4ba934bce","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d2cda74550a484928db","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q927496c507cb42f5816e","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":211,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2026-02-20T02:44:48.511Z","text":"他們要玩這個騙人了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2bcf896c2c3cf929a4c1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q927496c507cb42f5816e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2bcf896c2c3cf929a4c1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qe1ea6bcc573c23f071b4","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":212,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2026-02-20T02:46:07.066Z","text":"這東西grok 也說敘事大於實質，真能玩這個賺錢的是極少數","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1ea6bcc573c23f071b4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qd8c79c22620f373fa7e2","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":213,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T02:46:32.894Z","text":"还有一个问题 郭讲过\n破产案PAG在美国告他 在国内欠PAG3000万\n其实他早已经还了1亿 钱是可以追溯的\n郭可能以后 会拿这个反击PAG 让美国政府介入去调查 既然南区这边能把中国的PAG案子立起来 那就有义务 让中国司法部去调查 资金流可以通过美金长臂管辖权查明\n如果PAG是造假 那么PAG和南区检方 都会扑街","edited":false,"reply_to":"q27bb51e4ebc0851f1c2d","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8c79c22620f373fa7e2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qae085bf5dd2f9c853285","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":214,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T02:52:42.158Z","text":"25年9月份 好像又有一个 通过中国司法部取得的有关郭的证据 具体记不得","edited":false,"reply_to":"q86f2bb48a7c4ba934bce","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae085bf5dd2f9c853285","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86f2bb48a7c4ba934bce","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q86d73a0a0d28b107f7bf","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":215,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-20T02:53:41.572Z","text":"记得","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd8c79c22620f373fa7e2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86d73a0a0d28b107f7bf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8c79c22620f373fa7e2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qa7300c209954e8a3a5db","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":216,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T02:54:19.645Z","text":"［用户 xin***］ 搞钱的途径来了 以后刑事案财产损失的 可以和郭一起起诉PAG 都怪他的破产案虚假起诉 导致后续的财产损失","edited":true,"reply_to":"q86d73a0a0d28b107f7bf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7300c209954e8a3a5db","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86d73a0a0d28b107f7bf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qf36230caaef3b5fa8867","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":217,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T02:55:56.739Z","text":"我已经在研究了 搞钱就有动力了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf36230caaef3b5fa8867","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q300d7694fcd4adc51dfd","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":218,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-20T03:02:44.679Z","text":"连星辰都开始研究法律了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa6014b6fa543e4852f85","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q300d7694fcd4adc51dfd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q60ac5ee11512420f3367","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":219,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T03:03:12.557Z","text":"Luc目前查明的那些汇款流水 拿了钱的农场主们\n即使做了检方证人 签了不起诉协议\n案子一翻 那些自动推翻\n其实郭看到强制令 就懂了\n799提到 鸟 木兰 魏丽红 就是郭给的信号\n破产案和刑事案连带 刑事案翻 破产案也要翻","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd8c79c22620f373fa7e2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60ac5ee11512420f3367","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8c79c22620f373fa7e2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qce11f4bf90bcfc67bde0","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":220,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T03:05:53.579Z","text":"有钱捡不捡 不是[屏蔽词]吗","edited":true,"reply_to":"q300d7694fcd4adc51dfd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce11f4bf90bcfc67bde0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q300d7694fcd4adc51dfd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q0347372493cbba3854b3","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":221,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-20T03:06:29.702Z","text":"根据中美司法协定，是这个道理。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4d2cda74550a484928db","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0347372493cbba3854b3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d2cda74550a484928db","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q8f62f8aa18fd3ef3c7a6","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":222,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T03:09:19.486Z","text":"然后PAG破产案立案时候提供的证据 \n以后郭可以要求 查PAG的美元外汇资金记录 长臂管辖权 验证PAG有没有造假\nPAG是international corporate 不存在马蕊那样 躲着不出庭","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0347372493cbba3854b3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f62f8aa18fd3ef3c7a6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0347372493cbba3854b3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q122e14490a0f0b6128d8","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":223,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T03:10:33.030Z","text":"看我把这733研究透","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q122e14490a0f0b6128d8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q1d56fe991737cafb170a","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":224,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-02-20T03:13:16.676Z","text":"733通篇都没有说是郭本人造成的损害，都是说检方程序不正义起诉，受害人身份不正常","edited":false,"reply_to":"q122e14490a0f0b6128d8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d56fe991737cafb170a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q122e14490a0f0b6128d8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q472b04d52825ae463eda","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":225,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T03:13:58.886Z","text":"因为 害不害 检方 法官说了算\n无所谓 反正无论哪个角度 里面的猫腻才是重点","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1d56fe991737cafb170a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q472b04d52825ae463eda","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d56fe991737cafb170a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q53e8ebdb092ef7bc5b46","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":226,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-20T03:14:00.562Z","text":"说感谢检方和luc与本案的贡献","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53e8ebdb092ef7bc5b46","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qd6665d9d3446508c0257","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":227,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T03:14:29.208Z","text":"这不就对了吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1d56fe991737cafb170a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6665d9d3446508c0257","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d56fe991737cafb170a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q6bcc1b6f590b43ec6cad","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":228,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-02-20T03:14:42.540Z","text":"那一句意思其实就是因为郭才有这事的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6bcc1b6f590b43ec6cad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q6bbcfd1fe99008c31dcc","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":229,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T03:14:48.586Z","text":"只研究有用的 不浪费时间","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6bbcfd1fe99008c31dcc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q8f6a89577e20a8bbbd9e","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":230,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T03:15:22.028Z","text":"多看 以后怕还要打破产案的官司\n和刑事案都有关\n目的就是为搞钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6bbcfd1fe99008c31dcc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f6a89577e20a8bbbd9e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6bbcfd1fe99008c31dcc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qbd97c1ca2ad101d4190c","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":231,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-02-20T03:24:52.762Z","text":"二巡的364 是要检方 luc提供每个受害人 债权人 名单及具体损失、受益清单的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q60ac5ee11512420f3367","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbd97c1ca2ad101d4190c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60ac5ee11512420f3367","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q1007441d4985393b1fc6","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":232,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T03:32:49.392Z","text":"给个建议啊 卖Mahwah是个命门\n可以多说道说道 保证托雷斯睡不好觉🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbd97c1ca2ad101d4190c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1007441d4985393b1fc6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbd97c1ca2ad101d4190c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qcaadb9745f86c2d6071d","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":233,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-02-20T03:33:39.937Z","text":"马瓦庄园，什么时候裁决了啊？或者只是检方卢克私下协议啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcaadb9745f86c2d6071d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q3ebee9a5d4c183136d51","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":234,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T03:36:35.634Z","text":"不都已经卖了嘛 刑事案裁给破产案\n不裁 Luc怎么卖","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcaadb9745f86c2d6071d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ebee9a5d4c183136d51","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcaadb9745f86c2d6071d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q92ede63a53703136bacf","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":235,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-02-20T03:37:22.526Z","text":"是法官下命令，还是卢克检方私下协议啊？我不知道有没有这样的法官命令同意卖了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3ebee9a5d4c183136d51","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q92ede63a53703136bacf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ebee9a5d4c183136d51","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q8e09278d5459620ad571","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":236,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-02-20T03:55:45.472Z","text":"26-361 共42页，可以搞成一份pdf文件吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e09278d5459620ad571","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q8e1010c2400e212e6fc2","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":237,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T04:14:43.860Z","text":"刑事案204认为Mahwah是fraud所得资金购买 和lady may 一样\n破产案Luc 造假证据 指认Mahwah是郭个人资产\n再向破产庭申请和解 取得Mahwah的处置权","edited":false,"reply_to":"q92ede63a53703136bacf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e1010c2400e212e6fc2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q92ede63a53703136bacf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q10ef4dbd691fa75248fd","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":238,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-02-20T04:17:22.884Z","text":"我也不熟！但是，我模模糊糊记得马瓦庄园是检方和卢克和解或者协议达成的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10ef4dbd691fa75248fd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q15718273c5d09047a7a7","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":239,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T04:19:32.426Z","text":"和解协议 应该是破产庭那边签的\n但是Mahwah产权不是郭的\nLuc 这点是造假","edited":false,"reply_to":"q10ef4dbd691fa75248fd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15718273c5d09047a7a7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10ef4dbd691fa75248fd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qbbb3210b46b3a125429a","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":240,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-20T04:20:51.418Z","text":"那个庄园，luc和南区检方演戏，说债权人的钱和受害者的钱都在里面，所以约定拍卖了分。我没有看到说说马上拍卖了分。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbb3210b46b3a125429a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q495ecb0ba9923467b9bb","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":241,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-02-20T04:24:46.794Z","text":"-中美两国有协议可以互相提供证据，跟什么法系没关系","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4d2cda74550a484928db","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q495ecb0ba9923467b9bb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d2cda74550a484928db","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q5db9c8e2f55f268c3ccf","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":242,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T04:29:09.870Z","text":"我不是法律专业 没有你在行\n那就是有 司法互认 对吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q495ecb0ba9923467b9bb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5db9c8e2f55f268c3ccf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q495ecb0ba9923467b9bb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qc9ffba18632b7cd60b21","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":243,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T04:31:14.887Z","text":"貌似 Mahwah目前是在拍卖状态？\n那岂不是 破产庭和刑事庭 法官都卷进来了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbbb3210b46b3a125429a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9ffba18632b7cd60b21","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbb3210b46b3a125429a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qd1aeb9902fcb35dccb3f","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":244,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-02-20T04:36:31.235Z","text":"https://youtu.be/-mAUSIbukn4?si=SlsDjrKg-HGr11RI","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1aeb9902fcb35dccb3f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q6f61e650570b3033c330","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":245,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-20T04:37:37.127Z","text":"卷进刑事案的财产的处分，必须有刑事案法庭的命令才可以。没有看到南区这边有相应的命令。没有命令，要拍卖出去，程序上都做不到。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc9ffba18632b7cd60b21","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f61e650570b3033c330","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9ffba18632b7cd60b21","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qfeb14cfc2dae2700664b","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":246,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-20T04:39:03.868Z","text":"文件804，被告把王雪斌也点出来了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfeb14cfc2dae2700664b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q2478cfb8f95ee1479baf","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":247,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T04:43:13.124Z","text":"有个关于Mahwah的和解协议\n郭似乎反对过Luc 处置Mahwah 认为是刑事案的证据 和个人破产无关\nLuc是造假产权 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你可以反对mvra在没任何司法程序的前提下消失","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfdcf5f0211040447e0a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q58e17450e147d7dff5f5","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":264,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-20T05:15:44.359Z","text":"然后你的钱你主张用mvra","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58e17450e147d7dff5f5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qe933e3e412ac4a99a031","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":265,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-20T05:15:47.320Z","text":"来赔偿","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe933e3e412ac4a99a031","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q4820277dc3f04843ab0d","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":266,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-20T05:15:52.412Z","text":"［用户 xin***］ 这个还没人说过","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4820277dc3f04843ab0d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q27143bdf21b92595da61","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":267,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T05:17:17.298Z","text":"好的 研究研究","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27143bdf21b92595da61","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qf8e7209671fb1f21bfdf","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":268,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-20T05:17:53.347Z","text":"检方之前给托雷斯写过一个 忘了几号文件 说mvra不适用","edited":false,"reply_to":"q27143bdf21b92595da61","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8e7209671fb1f21bfdf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27143bdf21b92595da61","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q20b159ab55135805935c","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":269,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-20T05:18:19.529Z","text":"如果不适用 应该用动议的方式去申请 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你这个[屏蔽词]搞不好都可以上强制令","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa9204ab9cd83d8e57a52","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qc1aa630a08c94531fe22","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":272,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T05:19:23.558Z","text":"这不是问郭要钱了么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1aa630a08c94531fe22","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q494e9d7f1ef99b23ba6d","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":273,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-20T05:20:12.375Z","text":"你就问他要 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比没有强","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6285e978f8308570523b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qa9dfc673253ecb18b8c5","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":276,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-20T05:20:46.740Z","text":"［用户 xin***］ 现在问题不是你问他要钱","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa9dfc673253ecb18b8c5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q8e6f15db4c258d6d03a0","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":277,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-20T05:21:12.200Z","text":"［用户 xin***］ mvra是法定权利，检方 法官想闷声不响把你们的权利消失掉","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e6f15db4c258d6d03a0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q68a64f31a8166d8a2feb","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":278,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T05:21:58.069Z","text":"意思就是我本来可以用mvra直接问郭要钱 这几个[屏蔽词]直接替我做主了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68a64f31a8166d8a2feb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qffc9d09ec92ad54a19bb","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":279,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-20T05:22:14.541Z","text":"这几个[屏蔽词]把你的mvra的权利剥夺了","edited":true,"reply_to":"q68a64f31a8166d8a2feb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qffc9d09ec92ad54a19bb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68a64f31a8166d8a2feb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q9f4a46b72a1da49b0244","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":280,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T05:22:41.519Z","text":"郭出来把我打成味蕾怎么办","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f4a46b72a1da49b0244","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q1c8b374b70f194ce9f24","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":281,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-20T05:22:54.683Z","text":"你的动议或者强制令如果上去","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9f4a46b72a1da49b0244","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c8b374b70f194ce9f24","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f4a46b72a1da49b0244","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q45f82e5594eef845782d","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":282,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T05:23:08.641Z","text":"Page 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这部分你抄二巡tony的吧","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa36ab429078b861546d0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qec3ce684dc00b1dd0d67","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":314,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-20T06:00:49.736Z","text":"46页开始才是老郭的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec3ce684dc00b1dd0d67","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q8b3fe6892882edb1087d","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":315,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-02-20T06:03:37.355Z","text":"大家有没有研究下这个案件的RICO？ RICO 是这个案件最严重最核心的吧？ 目前没有人/第三方打这个。\n\n我发现这个群的讨论，星星点点的， 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成立的公司？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb0f66c80d7221f790c3e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45d69a8a860e8d20d052","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0f66c80d7221f790c3e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q2dc919fa4cf850205d1a","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":320,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T06:13:16.969Z","text":"郭就说了个是的 屁都不放一个啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2dc919fa4cf850205d1a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q37f5ed5ffcd6be2af638","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":321,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-02-20T06:29:13.589Z","text":"我是一塌糊涂啊 /我在9指妖那里有借款，几个公司： Maywind , Medical Supply。Arizona 目前有个民事案， 用了special master， 该人建议给claimant 回款 只有原投资额的43%！ 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还有破产案PAG","edited":false,"reply_to":"qffab082cd93de3e0d141","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee7fd928cf561f72b5cd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q5e4eb2fb87ef32ad211c","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":353,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-20T06:45:00.022Z","text":"cvra被他们搞成抱怨了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e4eb2fb87ef32ad211c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q39791b3287910e60288c","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":354,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T06:45:02.694Z","text":"0到1很难 1到234就容易多了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39791b3287910e60288c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q84b67626c55155bfc390","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":355,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-20T06:45:26.219Z","text":"对","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84b67626c55155bfc390","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qaa469469d55b8fa2a586","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":356,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T06:47:19.005Z","text":"这个关于CRVA MRVA的处理 如果南区装死 到二巡的话 就好玩了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q40967339a61483d3dc26","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa469469d55b8fa2a586","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40967339a61483d3dc26","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q7f5e4a71f69e0b69d91c","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":357,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-20T06:47:40.143Z","text":"他们就是打算一路装死啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaa469469d55b8fa2a586","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f5e4a71f69e0b69d91c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa469469d55b8fa2a586","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q8f783c620a8b6574d06c","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":358,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-20T06:48:09.305Z","text":"mvra 这个事情 确实很严重的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f783c620a8b6574d06c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qab8a50089598788ae06c","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":359,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T06:48:33.181Z","text":"这个是强制赔偿 对吧\n优先于853n","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8f783c620a8b6574d06c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab8a50089598788ae06c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f783c620a8b6574d06c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qf0b06527e11adb160edf","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":360,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-20T06:48:55.839Z","text":"我记得和cvra一样 就算真的不合适 需要走法律程序 不是这样说一下就没了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qab8a50089598788ae06c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0b06527e11adb160edf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab8a50089598788ae06c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q678efbaeb56321517f5c","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":361,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-20T06:49:39.147Z","text":"［用户 xin***］ 你去看看检方785","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q678efbaeb56321517f5c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q2117e9052850732e5ef8","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":362,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-20T06:49:44.788Z","text":"他提了 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