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AI都说没问题🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0098c1de1c03c92486e7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e0a9ee3a2058bc33def","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0098c1de1c03c92486e7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q1ba8fd0d1e319d2cf3f4","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":440,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T08:03:37.037Z","text":"又在酝酿下一个诈骗计划","edited":false,"reply_to":"q35dbe1f560bb993061fd","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ba8fd0d1e319d2cf3f4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q3d997b629986a939bd5f","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":441,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-20T08:05:35.027Z","text":"你要等一下 如果没裁决 是不行的 她现在就没裁决","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d997b629986a939bd5f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q39caa4ff9679bebf4921","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":442,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-20T08:11:50.327Z","text":"mvra 我再想想","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcda66004ddfcaf73bcf4","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39caa4ff9679bebf4921","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q3d477783b50fbb651c01","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":443,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T08:13:34.777Z","text":"204托雷斯通过了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8e1010c2400e212e6fc2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d477783b50fbb651c01","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e1010c2400e212e6fc2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qd684540f067aec23d3fb","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":444,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T08:14:12.721Z","text":"204不是通过 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都是一伙的怎么搞","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c8c02324c4dc6fb9573","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q7f81afa20a14e0f3086c","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":452,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T08:39:47.988Z","text":"连郭的律师都是坏的 这他妈不是无敌了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f81afa20a14e0f3086c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q3a74620df48a0b415ba9","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":453,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-02-20T08:40:45.965Z","text":"郭难道摆烂了，三年都没啥动作，天天打电话给Qmay，魔女,谈古论今，神啊，塔的，真是想不通他在干嘛","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a74620df48a0b415ba9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qc4f2f327699581c62320","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":454,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T08:40:52.987Z","text":"最起码是违背Cvra 的不被拖延的权力的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q984e30ccf3a891e41476","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4f2f327699581c62320","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q916d654abc2703b54b20","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":455,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T08:41:43.164Z","text":"靠一群外行研究这么复杂的案件 郭真他妈是个大[屏蔽词]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q916d654abc2703b54b20","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q9efdc7d4c33ed169e4fc","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":456,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T08:45:19.111Z","text":"不干肯定吃不到，干了没准有意外收获，我的二巡我都没想过会被立案，结果呢","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4599b6a23a5f7ee4e934","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9efdc7d4c33ed169e4fc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qa3b53d24a087365e2d7e","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":457,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T08:45:57.430Z","text":"只有瑞恩那个口子了 能破就破了 不能破 牢底坐穿","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa3b53d24a087365e2d7e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q29290e1712a83289fbcf","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":458,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T08:46:45.939Z","text":"抓住每一个机会，咱们不是专业人士，错了很正常，只要对一次就行了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29290e1712a83289fbcf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q3b8b95da1e387fca0e29","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":459,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T08:50:35.853Z","text":"就是整个看起来是不对劲的 但是他的程序是对的 检方不愧是专业的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b8b95da1e387fca0e29","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q1083c769d424b24c9826","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":460,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T08:54:30.193Z","text":"他哪怕说几句话 围着他的思路去打 直接摆烂了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1083c769d424b24c9826","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q76e164d31bb8c77780fb","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":461,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T08:55:53.091Z","text":"而且她还已经拿到退款了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3ec646b54a24adaa6794","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76e164d31bb8c77780fb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ec646b54a24adaa6794","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qd6f9e0b579c302bd4470","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":462,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T08:56:43.579Z","text":"不是等靠要 电脑我也会操作啊 无从下手啊 [屏蔽词]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6f9e0b579c302bd4470","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q5c1e27214d4017f2b8a9","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":463,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T08:56:53.283Z","text":"任命special只是处理853的，没Cvra的事儿","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4ab38c7d3a257d63c5e5","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c1e27214d4017f2b8a9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qb63bbdda084a44369908","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":464,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T08:58:09.363Z","text":"所以 检方上次动议 要把GTV也纳入没收 \n不认陪审团？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q76e164d31bb8c77780fb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb63bbdda084a44369908","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76e164d31bb8c77780fb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q6cc773c3bae12eab4f9b","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":465,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T08:58:11.458Z","text":"Mvra 785也说了 太复杂了 请求法官用快速的手段","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6cc773c3bae12eab4f9b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q4dd26b5f4fde23fd109d","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":466,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T08:58:38.802Z","text":"检方程序不正义的地方多了去了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3b8b95da1e387fca0e29","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4dd26b5f4fde23fd109d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b8b95da1e387fca0e29","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q3bff2eaec222c23aa57b","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":467,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T08:59:21.763Z","text":"问你一个问题\n如果想快 就直接量刑 对不对","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6cc773c3bae12eab4f9b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3bff2eaec222c23aa57b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6cc773c3bae12eab4f9b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q5a8c6c1c7acbdd1d7067","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":468,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T08:59:48.720Z","text":"对啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a8c6c1c7acbdd1d7067","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q4c59a13cdae7279a0467","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":469,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T09:00:14.658Z","text":"检方不是又拿出Rico 来了吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb63bbdda084a44369908","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c59a13cdae7279a0467","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb63bbdda084a44369908","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qa6c2d886b46d126f2f80","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":470,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T09:01:09.004Z","text":"RICO的前提 是承认欺诈 对不对","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4c59a13cdae7279a0467","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6c2d886b46d126f2f80","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c59a13cdae7279a0467","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qc87fa754fc6cb65cb272","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":471,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T09:02:28.167Z","text":"陪审团已经定罪了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa6c2d886b46d126f2f80","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc87fa754fc6cb65cb272","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6c2d886b46d126f2f80","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q07f6dba4ce01fbdefad7","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":472,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T09:02:30.187Z","text":"你怎么知道他只有gtv投资","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb879d3ca393e89816294","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07f6dba4ce01fbdefad7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q967a242144b040bd8458","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":473,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T09:02:35.762Z","text":"他就不能全投","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q967a242144b040bd8458","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q31b446e06246cdc263e9","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":474,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T09:02:41.163Z","text":"郭说过","edited":false,"reply_to":"q07f6dba4ce01fbdefad7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31b446e06246cdc263e9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07f6dba4ce01fbdefad7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q76551cbce658681a9dcc","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":475,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T09:02:43.416Z","text":"共匪有的是钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76551cbce658681a9dcc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q526bfdb2ff76acd8b254","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":476,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T09:04:03.471Z","text":"检方想玩儿的是 既要 又要\n既要保留当前陪审团的定罪状态 开启没收模式 并让RICO成立\n虽然陪审团裁定 郭不涉及GTV欺诈 而且GTV和SEC已经和解\n但为了没收GTV的钱 还是硬往RICO扯","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc87fa754fc6cb65cb272","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q526bfdb2ff76acd8b254","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc87fa754fc6cb65cb272","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qc323f25d4992c584d0c0","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":477,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T09:11:41.318Z","text":"这个刑事案到底是怎么立起来的 一开始不是个破产案吗 和我这个小白说说啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc323f25d4992c584d0c0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q498fce057148d9992c68","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":478,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-02-20T09:13:47.623Z","text":"那些虚假索赔比如美国小李开口要两亿的，他们这么做违法吗？怎么坏蛋全发财了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q498fce057148d9992c68","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q10bc30cbea63fb714729","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":479,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T09:15:19.835Z","text":"检方到现在也没公布受害人名单，美其名曰保护其安全","edited":false,"reply_to":"q526bfdb2ff76acd8b254","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10bc30cbea63fb714729","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q526bfdb2ff76acd8b254","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qcbdec3716856c09dc0a5","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":480,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T09:16:17.730Z","text":"都是碰瓷儿的，没人提啊，","edited":false,"reply_to":"q498fce057148d9992c68","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcbdec3716856c09dc0a5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q498fce057148d9992c68","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qda6df04a080c3dae67bf","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":481,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-02-20T09:16:39.303Z","text":"那是不是你们五个上了二巡的可以提","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda6df04a080c3dae67bf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qbf3d650d2a9c5d40a42a","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":482,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-02-20T09:16:50.475Z","text":"把所有问题都提上去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf3d650d2a9c5d40a42a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q633f59eb9d56608b49af","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":483,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-02-20T09:17:08.113Z","text":"郭和律师都摆烂，不想出来了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q633f59eb9d56608b49af","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q70572668da00ebeddf83","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":484,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T09:18:07.671Z","text":"只要是没提过的程序问题都可以给二巡说，是以动议形式还是信？ [删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70572668da00ebeddf83","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qb946345bbe48cf58e5f8","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":485,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T09:26:25.673Z","text":"你们说的程序不正义是刑事案就不该立 还是这个刑事案的审理过程不正义","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb946345bbe48cf58e5f8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q16fe738dbca90d101ef8","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":486,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T09:30:28.501Z","text":"过程","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb946345bbe48cf58e5f8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16fe738dbca90d101ef8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb946345bbe48cf58e5f8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qafb38a8adf66ddb9538a","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":487,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T09:31:11.922Z","text":"程序不正义成立就可以秒杀判决","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qafb38a8adf66ddb9538a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q8450f05bba907e90a648","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":488,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T09:31:17.811Z","text":"理论上","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8450f05bba907e90a648","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q8044c92eec715b2e9f4a","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":489,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T09:34:28.480Z","text":"有没有新路子啊 没有只能抄袭瑞恩了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8044c92eec715b2e9f4a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q5d92b5de1d67832b7542","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":490,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T09:40:28.471Z","text":"有个问题\nMahwah和lady may 是刑事案指控郭 用欺诈所得 用于个人挥霍的重要证据\n案子合并后 Luc进入刑事案\nLuc又用虚假材料 向破产庭证明Mahwah是郭个人资产 从而和检方(政府)签了和解协议 得到Mahwah处置权","edited":false,"reply_to":"qafb38a8adf66ddb9538a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d92b5de1d67832b7542","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qafb38a8adf66ddb9538a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q4020a0930f4b0dd503ef","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":491,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T09:48:42.775Z","text":"就这一条不就能推翻了 那个船投资前就买了哇","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5d92b5de1d67832b7542","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4020a0930f4b0dd503ef","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d92b5de1d67832b7542","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q229c41d5e558344ef07e","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":492,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T09:51:00.991Z","text":"这个算一条","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4020a0930f4b0dd503ef","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q229c41d5e558344ef07e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4020a0930f4b0dd503ef","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qa54a7d6910131c7e6bde","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":493,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T10:17:40.004Z","text":"但是拱竹 是个隐患啊\n她涉及的GTV投资 是刑事案的立案依据 也是RICO的源头\n按目前的定罪状态 \n拱竹当初报案的立案罪名 就不成立了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q526bfdb2ff76acd8b254","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa54a7d6910131c7e6bde","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q526bfdb2ff76acd8b254","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q4db35a686551a2e7a081","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":494,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T10:18:10.661Z","text":"那刑事案也就不存在了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4db35a686551a2e7a081","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q559e130ad45e97ca1b4f","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":495,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T10:19:50.373Z","text":"时间上就不对，船是很早就买好的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5d92b5de1d67832b7542","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q559e130ad45e97ca1b4f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d92b5de1d67832b7542","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qdf7e4ab803c54826ca5e","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":496,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T10:20:07.713Z","text":"https://x.com/weiwei603438482/status/2024759341962899758?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf7e4ab803c54826ca5e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qaca4a85f510e27eb7828","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":497,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T10:21:17.235Z","text":"检方这个时候扯RICO 扯到GTV涉及欺诈洗钱 就是要保拱竹\n这就涉及到 先有鸡 再有蛋的问题了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4db35a686551a2e7a081","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaca4a85f510e27eb7828","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4db35a686551a2e7a081","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q7afaee80d72189a05d01","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":498,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T10:25:11.123Z","text":"/若GTV无罪 拱竹刑事案报案 没有依据 就没有接下来的RICO\n/检方用RICO来定义GTV涉嫌欺诈 所以拱竹是受害者 所以刑事案可以立案\n检方在玩儿文字游戏","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7afaee80d72189a05d01","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qdb151550526d691a0807","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":499,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T10:25:29.181Z","text":"又玩儿本末倒置","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb151550526d691a0807","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qed91350b007efc508f4f","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":500,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T10:25:39.290Z","text":"对 不止一两次了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdb151550526d691a0807","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed91350b007efc508f4f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb151550526d691a0807","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q3bb9abebac801230fa83","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":501,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T10:27:24.406Z","text":"这个咱们都看出来了，律师为什么不说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3bb9abebac801230fa83","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q4de974a428780c68798a","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":502,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T10:28:20.961Z","text":"这也是为什么Luc不敢签船的和解协议 只签Mahwah的\n船的购买时间 应该在投资2017前\nMahwah应该是在2017后","edited":false,"reply_to":"q559e130ad45e97ca1b4f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4de974a428780c68798a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q559e130ad45e97ca1b4f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qbfb5e08dd6422cba0f9c","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":503,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T10:28:38.409Z","text":"出工不出力 重点不说\n跟着检方的路子 去扯没收的蛋","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3bb9abebac801230fa83","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbfb5e08dd6422cba0f9c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3bb9abebac801230fa83","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q35b0dc0f6caf4eaab428","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":504,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T10:31:07.412Z","text":"美国的法律gtv结案了 还能在拉回诈骗上啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7afaee80d72189a05d01","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35b0dc0f6caf4eaab428","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7afaee80d72189a05d01","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q0c2908ae724d9c42036a","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":505,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T10:31:55.918Z","text":"这指的是谁？盖尔那6000人还是gavenman","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c2908ae724d9c42036a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qd64bc43a557105c9c35b","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":506,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T10:32:05.719Z","text":"盖尔啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd64bc43a557105c9c35b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q2a84f7553bc9e738baa8","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":507,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T10:33:13.858Z","text":"这特么是在给盖尔正名吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a84f7553bc9e738baa8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qe5c8b12ff29ddb80e07e","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":508,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T10:33:59.958Z","text":"法律就是抬杠，有理有据的抬杠","edited":false,"reply_to":"q35b0dc0f6caf4eaab428","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5c8b12ff29ddb80e07e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35b0dc0f6caf4eaab428","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q9a7890d017cfe9749fa1","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":509,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T10:37:30.513Z","text":"这段里的意思就是 质疑为什么检方 在陪审团已经认定GTV无罪情况下 要把GTV拉入没收","edited":false,"reply_to":"q35b0dc0f6caf4eaab428","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a7890d017cfe9749fa1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35b0dc0f6caf4eaab428","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qf7f4191566cf78bcbcee","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":510,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T10:41:36.132Z","text":"不是 各说各话\n检方认为6000人是victim（根据填表内容853i）\n辩方认为根据盖尔最后一次motion声明主张是853n","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2a84f7553bc9e738baa8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf7f4191566cf78bcbcee","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a84f7553bc9e738baa8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qe84c32a3d30c00141e76","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":511,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T10:59:30.773Z","text":"759盖尔两个都用了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf7f4191566cf78bcbcee","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe84c32a3d30c00141e76","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf7f4191566cf78bcbcee","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qb24a8c32400861a7269e","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":512,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T11:00:14.582Z","text":"必经过程","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7ff5eba5270623034c4a","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb24a8c32400861a7269e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qa2ec53a9587cc1947433","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":513,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T11:00:17.786Z","text":"如果是债权人虚假索赔 那后面的什么程序不正义也不用管了啊 本来就不存在这个案子啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa2ec53a9587cc1947433","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qb55bb82c6f642804b74e","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":514,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T11:00:28.780Z","text":"所以到底打哪里啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb55bb82c6f642804b74e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q6b0248ebd38dbe16c927","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":515,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T11:00:35.670Z","text":"对 检方一厢情愿 说说而已\n最后special master 肯定都裁成remission","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe84c32a3d30c00141e76","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b0248ebd38dbe16c927","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe84c32a3d30c00141e76","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qcd800a01123d56a6e593","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":516,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T11:00:59.273Z","text":"问题是辩方没有反驳啊，你不说法官就当没这回事儿","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa2ec53a9587cc1947433","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd800a01123d56a6e593","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa2ec53a9587cc1947433","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q0c33f9f952087e6563b7","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":517,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T11:01:16.364Z","text":"所以我们上去说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c33f9f952087e6563b7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q7ba4fcd68c09ca30f98a","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":518,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T11:02:14.731Z","text":"托雷斯状态会已经把这俩定位二选一了，那也就是盖尔的759无效？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6b0248ebd38dbe16c927","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ba4fcd68c09ca30f98a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b0248ebd38dbe16c927","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q43b1a5bfc1f425bda7e1","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":519,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T11:02:30.833Z","text":"对 盖尔那6000 就没有可以算得上合格的853n\n759声明有屁用","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7ba4fcd68c09ca30f98a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43b1a5bfc1f425bda7e1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ba4fcd68c09ca30f98a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q95e104c9cd54d04b689a","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":520,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T11:02:56.226Z","text":"郭总是要网子里鱼多了再捞起来？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcd800a01123d56a6e593","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95e104c9cd54d04b689a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd800a01123d56a6e593","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q3d3b727a7c5c144a4c5d","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":521,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T11:03:30.059Z","text":"反驳了就没有后面的表演了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d3b727a7c5c144a4c5d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qb99897f259a630defa3c","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":522,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T11:03:39.144Z","text":"根本还没捞到他想要的鱼，都是臭鱼烂虾","edited":false,"reply_to":"q95e104c9cd54d04b689a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb99897f259a630defa3c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95e104c9cd54d04b689a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q2a57707c1853cd6651df","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":523,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-20T11:03:59.543Z","text":"他这个度能把握好啊 不怕把自己淹死咯","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a57707c1853cd6651df","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qa6cd9b21179506118cca","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":524,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T11:04:35.405Z","text":"本来就是你死我活的事儿","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2a57707c1853cd6651df","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6cd9b21179506118cca","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a57707c1853cd6651df","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q38852b4463cf91cac7db","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":525,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2026-02-20T11:05:56.034Z","text":"这是群里的一个误解。\n\n郭从2020年就已经在被fbi刑事调查了。\n\n而郭申请Chpt 11破产是2022年7月，他的主观动机是想挫败PAX对他的索债诉讼，赖掉一部分债务；他的资产被破产法院任命的trustee完全接管是在他意料之外的。所以他恨死trustee了。\n\n他搞对trustee的灭贼行动，又间接造成了他在刑事案件中无法申请到保释。\n\n都是自己作的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc323f25d4992c584d0c0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38852b4463cf91cac7db","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc323f25d4992c584d0c0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"qbcd7aa7f9184813f142e","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":526,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T11:08:01.086Z","text":"Mahwah怎么算 刑事？破产？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q38852b4463cf91cac7db","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbcd7aa7f9184813f142e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38852b4463cf91cac7db","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q75c301031469f1e014e8","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":527,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T11:08:15.102Z","text":"你这完全是按原告的角度解释，你怎么证明原告说的属实，郭说的假？破产案设立受托人是基本操作，有什么可出乎意料的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q38852b4463cf91cac7db","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q75c301031469f1e014e8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38852b4463cf91cac7db","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q98243531aeadd6f6a294","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":528,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-02-20T11:09:05.966Z","text":"老郭就是要做成被告上法庭","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa2ec53a9587cc1947433","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q98243531aeadd6f6a294","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa2ec53a9587cc1947433","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q0301bea5bcac73bee910","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":529,"speaker":"siy***","date":"2026-02-20T11:09:45.844Z","text":"这又来一个说他是故意的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q98243531aeadd6f6a294","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0301bea5bcac73bee910","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q98243531aeadd6f6a294","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q0ac02996c394cc11a632","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":530,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-20T11:11:18.547Z","text":"是有人要利用破产案在经济上搞垮郭和他的运动，郭是被动防御到后来的借力打力，怎么成了对受托人的行动？受托人是排头兵而已","edited":false,"reply_to":"q38852b4463cf91cac7db","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ac02996c394cc11a632","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38852b4463cf91cac7db","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000080"},{"id":"q86d8737cd601823cd8b4","batch_id":"batch-000080","seq":531,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-20T11:13:43.263Z","text":"自己做成 倒不至于\n315是个引子 进去后身边潜伏的操作 配合司法检方 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