{"id":"batch-000084","number":84,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-02-25T02:53:52.938Z","date_end":"2026-02-27T20:41:59.380Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 084 (Feb 25, 2026 – Feb 27, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Discussions centered on pre- and post-sentencing proceedings and asset disposition, reflecting multi-layered friction without consensus. Participants disputed procedural boundaries under § 853(n), weighing defense rights against preventing trial delays. Further disagreements concerned evidentiary disclosure credibility, redactions, and proof adequacy. Debates also addressed victim definitions, forfeiture scope, restitution, sentencing tiers, organizational coordination, and whether CIPA or Brady disputes indicate procedural contamination. Overall, dialogue shifted from factual assessments toward procedural timelines and strategic litigation maneuvers.","guide_en":[{"title":"Sentencing delay dispute: Third extension request parallels political timeline expectations, dividing views between preserving defense rights and preventing endless delay","description":"Participants dispute whether sentencing should be postponed again, debating defense rights versus concerns over prolonged delay.","message_ids":["q70faaaa808b1f1972e1e","q0c528d3bd906e1eafe4d","q55b0b282622bc9a9ad38"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q70faaaa808b1f1972e1e","summary_en":"him*** summarizes ECF 807, outlining the defense's request to postpone the sentencing originally set for Apr 13, 2026, by approximately thirty days to obtain Rule 17(c) subpoena materials and review investor communications under 18 U.S.C. § 3553(a) and § 3661."},{"message_id":"q0c528d3bd906e1eafe4d","summary_en":"joh*** contends that the proceeding will not conclude until it is dragged out to the midterm elections."},{"message_id":"q55b0b282622bc9a9ad38","summary_en":"kir*** expresses frustration over having already waited four months."}]},{"title":"Compulsory subpoena boundaries: Dispute over whether orders should only obtain documents or detain witnesses and whether lines were crossed","description":"Participants debate the proper scope of compulsory subpoenas, questioning whether requests should target only document production or witness attendance.","message_ids":["q959a2f6d7062179e8e52","qa75fa6463cdf269c8e1f","q72a88556b3829c8909fd"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q959a2f6d7062179e8e52","summary_en":"beg*** contends that compulsory summons became necessary because desired witnesses failed to appear."},{"message_id":"qa75fa6463cdf269c8e1f","summary_en":"beg*** argues that specific organizational members should also fall within the scope of the subpoena."},{"message_id":"q72a88556b3829c8909fd","summary_en":"him*** asserts that the compulsory process is aimed at retrieving documents and evidence rather than detaining witnesses."}]},{"title":"The § 853(n) procedural path: Controversy over whether petitions received must be formally submitted to court by prosecutors and heard","description":"Participants debate procedural handling under § 853(n), questioning whether petitions routed to the prosecution require formal court docketing and hearings.","message_ids":["q515832edfba8a1fa01b1","q1b0103e1c0d6b440d184","q8b0acf15f28d8ab7f64e"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q515832edfba8a1fa01b1","summary_en":"beg*** cites an excerpt describing an anonymous petitioner who sent a petition under § 853(n) to the clerk of court in early April 2025 that was forwarded to the government but not docketed."},{"message_id":"q1b0103e1c0d6b440d184","summary_en":"him*** asks whether the prosecution has an obligation to submit a § 853(n) petition to the court after receiving it."},{"message_id":"q8b0acf15f28d8ab7f64e","summary_en":"reb*** contends that the government previously claimed it would submit petitions to the court but subsequently decided against doing so."}]},{"title":"Third-party standing and availability: Significant divergence on verifying identity first versus leaving determination to subsequent hearings","description":"Participants dispute the prerequisites for third-party petitions under § 853(n), discussing whether standing must be verified prior to granting a hearing.","message_ids":["q1a16ed18f438d129b7bb","q7ed9e8d45d3fd87d6f3f","qf37351b8c2a239387f84"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q1a16ed18f438d129b7bb","summary_en":"reb*** argues that investors must not forfeit their § 853(n) rights, asserting that third-party standing is confirmed through hearings rather than established beforehand."},{"message_id":"q7ed9e8d45d3fd87d6f3f","summary_en":"him*** contends that opposition focuses not on claims purely seeking money, but rather on § 853(n) petitions raising procedural challenges."},{"message_id":"qf37351b8c2a239387f84","summary_en":"reb*** contends that § 853(n) petitions address bankruptcy procedural defects and clarify that relevant G-series entities do not belong to the defendant, necessitating a Southern District hearing."}]},{"title":"Ongoing dispute over victim boundaries: Whether co-defendants or co-actors can simultaneously be regarded as victims","description":"Participants dispute the boundaries of victim status, debating whether participants or co-actors can be legally recognized as victims.","message_ids":["q3e85609644887de98455","q584fe40e582c2cb87c60","qbbac1935036bdd551083"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q3e85609644887de98455","summary_en":"kir*** argues that the framework excludes § 853 provisions."},{"message_id":"q584fe40e582c2cb87c60","summary_en":"kir*** contends that the legal classification recognizes only victims."},{"message_id":"qbbac1935036bdd551083","summary_en":"him*** affirms agreement that this reasoning represents the actual legal logic."}]},{"title":"Forfeiture scope and asset ownership: Whether confiscation 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你得一步步来。围绕钱开始","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5106383aad81faa17d8d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qadafb227103454da9f69","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":204,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-25T07:01:38.369Z","text":"不是所有吧，顶多是双方一直以来的争议，第三方提到的都没怎么提","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe28edd6082bd2a30db43","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qadafb227103454da9f69","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe28edd6082bd2a30db43","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q2f08b2a039a4169a91ff","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":205,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-25T07:04:45.679Z","text":"顺着钱 一步一步往回翻 翻到破产案","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5106383aad81faa17d8d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f08b2a039a4169a91ff","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5106383aad81faa17d8d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q49aea26be36319b805b1","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":206,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-25T07:52:51.161Z","text":"律师无罪辩护根本不是现在","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6182da7043530eeaf58f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q49aea26be36319b805b1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6182da7043530eeaf58f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q9ea86c36813026dbf9ca","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":207,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-25T07:55:51.350Z","text":"如果不打rule 33，就只能按标准的量刑程序走，把能留的记录都留下来。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ea86c36813026dbf9ca","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qb5668626011d4334edd1","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":208,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-25T07:56:04.832Z","text":"rule29现在没机会了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5668626011d4334edd1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qdf821d4524010632de69","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":209,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-25T07:56:09.395Z","text":"先rule33","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf821d4524010632de69","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q490fb42170d4b40a119d","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":210,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-25T07:56:39.956Z","text":"我把这两个记混了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdf821d4524010632de69","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q490fb42170d4b40a119d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf821d4524010632de69","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q54ecc4797fb3c7218b49","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":211,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-02-25T07:57:38.071Z","text":"辩方律师翻案是量刑后上诉才能做的流程","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6182da7043530eeaf58f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54ecc4797fb3c7218b49","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6182da7043530eeaf58f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qaa46284d481127d7e61c","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":212,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-25T08:04:27.924Z","text":"应该是361给律师打鸡血了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q24361a77974d949b1f11","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa46284d481127d7e61c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q24361a77974d949b1f11","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q3b89f43fa58755a57b05","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":213,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-25T08:04:43.411Z","text":"还不知道律师有没有看到361","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaa46284d481127d7e61c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b89f43fa58755a57b05","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa46284d481127d7e61c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qf5e0dbb8fcaa2f9f1623","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":214,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-25T08:05:26.147Z","text":"Ai 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七哥短 都靠编","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85228882fb5cb2ea283b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q2d153aa9f84bbb2f709f","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":224,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-02-25T08:26:06.162Z","text":"这是不是扰乱司法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d153aa9f84bbb2f709f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q955ef3ac97b1d6bc0987","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":225,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-02-25T08:26:25.099Z","text":"可写进奏折了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q955ef3ac97b1d6bc0987","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q441c33d3c8b8a893f746","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":226,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-25T08:26:40.299Z","text":"这些所谓被逼的可能大部分是演员","edited":false,"reply_to":"q980801d1fe4ae392b3d6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q441c33d3c8b8a893f746","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q980801d1fe4ae392b3d6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qe317e26afce519d89516","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":227,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-25T08:27:22.714Z","text":"他们会耍流氓 说口里的七哥 可能不是那个谁","edited":false,"reply_to":"q955ef3ac97b1d6bc0987","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe317e26afce519d89516","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q955ef3ac97b1d6bc0987","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qf7cced93ec9ca517aee4","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":228,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-25T08:30:23.140Z","text":"甚至还有个问题\n青的什么秘书长 又没有批文 说话有没有法律责任 还是问题\n鸟 王雪冰 被起诉 都是因为转钱 而且是ROL ROLS的主席","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf7cced93ec9ca517aee4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q1327a98bcac3901edcfd","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":229,"speaker":"faz***","date":"2026-02-25T08:35:14.807Z","text":"这要按着常规程序走下去，基本也就是量刑轻重的问题了。基本没有其它可能了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1327a98bcac3901edcfd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q432866aab391a5589014","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":230,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2026-02-25T08:35:30.140Z","text":"這次延期會批麽","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q432866aab391a5589014","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qb6dc16d4617df68fb00f","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":231,"speaker":"faz***","date":"2026-02-25T08:35:51.211Z","text":"我猜法官不会批了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q432866aab391a5589014","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb6dc16d4617df68fb00f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q432866aab391a5589014","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qaf74e25881e5128a0c8e","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":232,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-25T08:37:47.300Z","text":"托雷斯会乐意看到上诉？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb6dc16d4617df68fb00f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf74e25881e5128a0c8e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb6dc16d4617df68fb00f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q04e79dad7b4914007b67","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":233,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-02-25T08:38:34.882Z","text":"他们是为了保盖特的郭美，为第三梯队接班吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q25914c84fa3a636d1d9b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q04e79dad7b4914007b67","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25914c84fa3a636d1d9b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q6325d7b8a1af0818f2b2","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":234,"speaker":"faz***","date":"2026-02-25T08:38:46.607Z","text":"上诉，也只审查程序和现有证据，不会再接受新的证据了吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6325d7b8a1af0818f2b2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q1fabb0d30be24aeb71d5","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":235,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-02-25T08:41:28.674Z","text":"二巡上已经有关于程序不正义动议了，再找新证据看来是想指控CCP的证据","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6325d7b8a1af0818f2b2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1fabb0d30be24aeb71d5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6325d7b8a1af0818f2b2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q25cdf4dd62d7cd837f5b","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":236,"speaker":"faz***","date":"2026-02-25T08:42:00.552Z","text":"我表示谨慎的乐观","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1fabb0d30be24aeb71d5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25cdf4dd62d7cd837f5b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1fabb0d30be24aeb71d5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q5b00d1f9171611870430","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":237,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-02-25T08:47:04.529Z","text":"你说的很可能对。所以，第三方去法庭上把自己的经历添加上去。到时候郭文贵翻案或者增加量刑可以用这些证据啊！我建议你把郭文贵代孕一大堆小孩子的证据提交上去，让郭文贵牢底坐穿！行不行啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6325d7b8a1af0818f2b2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b00d1f9171611870430","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6325d7b8a1af0818f2b2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qa15217b4146fc1939ca4","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":238,"speaker":"faz***","date":"2026-02-25T08:48:16.226Z","text":"你找错人了，代孕这事，我还真不了解","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5b00d1f9171611870430","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa15217b4146fc1939ca4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b00d1f9171611870430","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id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其实是碰瓷","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8b6503894a1e59921c8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q2b6e1648cccdda139b9c","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":241,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-25T09:22:49.121Z","text":"蹲到郭美 然后聊几句 再编一下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b6e1648cccdda139b9c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q0c9881f3393ed8435a46","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":242,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-25T09:39:57.030Z","text":"我查了下，检方要没收gtv，完全没有任何法条和判例支持，我之前以为，检方的说辞:只要有共谋欺诈，管它有罪无罪的项目，只要破产法庭那边说那是什么被告的影子实体等乱七八糟的用来形容属于被告的东西，就可以没收。在一定条件下可以成立。但没有找到任何支持这一说辞的法条依据，只有项目本身欺诈，才谈得上共谋欺诈，如果本身不是欺诈项目，那就什么欺诈都谈不上。这拖累斯难道也要强行批准最终没收吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c9881f3393ed8435a46","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q78a7af3b864f707cac85","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":243,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-25T09:41:03.446Z","text":"昨天我和AI 不就在杠这个","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0c9881f3393ed8435a46","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78a7af3b864f707cac85","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c9881f3393ed8435a46","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q0a05b2173f450b33ad35","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":244,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-25T09:43:11.503Z","text":"不强行扯上GTV  扯上郭\n剩余三个实体 Gclub 农场借贷 喜交所 洗钱欺诈就不能并案 因为受益人不是郭 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但要把郭 排除出去 因为GTV无罪了啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f0692ecc041e89ed2da","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qacde66d6bec8211d33d3","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":249,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-02-25T09:53:06.341Z","text":"GTV项目，与其他项目几乎一模一样！投资者还是那些投资者，很多重合，联盟农场还是联盟农场，郭文贵还是郭文贵。这种矛盾冲突的裁决，也是非常罕见！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qacde66d6bec8211d33d3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qb7e7c97db546382be5ea","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":250,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-02-25T09:54:58.469Z","text":"GTV无罪是因为SEC退款了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7e7c97db546382be5ea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q608ddaf4d7c08a43681d","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":251,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-25T10:09:02.349Z","text":"所以 拱竹刑事案报案依据 就不成立了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb7e7c97db546382be5ea","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q608ddaf4d7c08a43681d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7e7c97db546382be5ea","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q87f947eb8d9e463529c3","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":252,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-02-25T10:09:19.469Z","text":"喜交所，农场借款，等等，也可以退款啊！钱都在账上。为什么不直接退款啊？\n\n这个案子，就没有正常的地方。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb7e7c97db546382be5ea","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87f947eb8d9e463529c3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7e7c97db546382be5ea","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qfb6baf4f00d117693232","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":253,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-02-25T10:11:35.052Z","text":"人家陪审团在有限信息了解下，只看到了退款给了投资者的项目就无罪，没有退款的和没有达到承诺的就给判有罪了…","edited":false,"reply_to":"q87f947eb8d9e463529c3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb6baf4f00d117693232","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87f947eb8d9e463529c3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q8ae35dba27ec28b30f7d","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":254,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-02-25T10:33:19.736Z","text":"李亞、王雪冰、長島等這群真正的拿了錢的，法院為什麼不讓他們退還？難道出來作檢方證人的，就可以合理合法的偷錢？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ae35dba27ec28b30f7d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q4bf90ea4482328489855","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":255,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-02-25T10:35:45.152Z","text":"美國法律已經被紐約南區法院玩爛🫣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4bf90ea4482328489855","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q3cd54bba4afaa753e6d4","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":256,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-25T10:36:45.503Z","text":"因为并案了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8ae35dba27ec28b30f7d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3cd54bba4afaa753e6d4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ae35dba27ec28b30f7d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q9395ab8d1cefd8451727","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":257,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-02-25T10:38:04.094Z","text":"並案？請問什麼情況？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9395ab8d1cefd8451727","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qf9a5cfc61d6d59ff0c0f","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":258,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-02-25T10:38:42.401Z","text":"他們是否以污點證人的身份？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9a5cfc61d6d59ff0c0f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q133dd18ee2826e714d16","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":259,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-25T10:40:23.903Z","text":"他们以做检方证人为理由 换取不被起诉追缴","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf9a5cfc61d6d59ff0c0f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q133dd18ee2826e714d16","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9a5cfc61d6d59ff0c0f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q912a07563d38b9911d23","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":260,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-25T10:42:22.927Z","text":"他们都属于诈骗集团的共谋 只有他们去指证郭 刑事案才能定罪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q912a07563d38b9911d23","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q8b8c58aa2d1d982050b1","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":261,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-25T11:00:57.020Z","text":"王雪冰去庭审 目的不是刑事案定罪 而是把法治基金与郭绑定 让Luc可以在破产案追ROL 的钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b8c58aa2d1d982050b1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qa7b152d5f7859a6a0a25","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":262,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-02-25T11:01:51.104Z","text":"不起訴可以理解到，但貪污了還不用還⋯⋯","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7b152d5f7859a6a0a25","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q5f93bb25575d1dd8d4f0","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":263,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-25T11:02:59.091Z","text":"这就是做局","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f93bb25575d1dd8d4f0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q27b4c36cda81bd89970f","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":264,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-02-25T11:03:03.814Z","text":"美國為何不起底王雪冰這個壞B","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8b8c58aa2d1d982050b1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27b4c36cda81bd89970f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b8c58aa2d1d982050b1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q44b71197bbfb01132669","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":265,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-25T11:04:28.442Z","text":"他是ROL主席 转钱必须有他签字 \n只有他 有资格指证 是郭指挥转钱\n他用指证郭 换不起诉","edited":false,"reply_to":"q27b4c36cda81bd89970f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44b71197bbfb01132669","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27b4c36cda81bd89970f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q7c6c949d10bfe2392f26","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":266,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-02-25T11:05:33.922Z","text":"戰友們有沒有人能提供起底王雪冰、李亞之流的老底，把證據呈上給二巡法院","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c6c949d10bfe2392f26","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q5a94c09f287269ece5e6","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":267,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-25T11:06:57.417Z","text":"鸟也一样 他是法治社会ROLS主席\n他和王雪冰的作用 是一样\n也是指证郭 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都随意 \n怎么办 看其他板块有成功先例\n仅供参考 自己行动不求人不赖人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q889f22d4f1f1cd9438cf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qb309ddbab9b4fa0d117d","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":272,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2026-02-25T11:53:46.459Z","text":"那老郭律师上次点名这几个货就是逼检方自己交代到底是咋回事🤣\n\n检方只能装死\n\n老郭先把雷埋好","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5a94c09f287269ece5e6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb309ddbab9b4fa0d117d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a94c09f287269ece5e6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q77f93b0fcad96aa724b7","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":273,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-02-25T11:55:13.027Z","text":"二巡法院的地址，資料要給哪位？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q25608c80042b2fdadb88","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77f93b0fcad96aa724b7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q9558c72dcb14a15026f1","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":274,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2026-02-25T11:58:44.147Z","text":"361，364看明白了你就知道如何去二巡，怎么去，前提条件是啥，去的姿势如何摆，是头在前还是脚在前，是先迈左脚还是右手，去之前需不需要向托大人请安，请几次，用什么姿势请，等等等等，哦，还有，是要先问候托大人的八辈祖宗还是先问候贱方的大姨","edited":false,"reply_to":"q72ec01818f8ea2d2465a","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9558c72dcb14a15026f1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q04121c005bcd756dce14","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":275,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-02-25T11:59:21.209Z","text":"我這看不到364,361，從356直跳到396🫣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q04121c005bcd756dce14","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qe29d0f40e7bb9800584f","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":276,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-02-25T12:05:49.148Z","text":"我之前已經兩次用FDX快遞信件資料加電子郵件給托大人了，但如石沉大海，進了黑洞一樣，沒立案沒貼堂，連一個反饋的Email也沒收到。應該夠資格上二巡了吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9558c72dcb14a15026f1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe29d0f40e7bb9800584f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9558c72dcb14a15026f1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q178be327f884a8cfb36c","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":277,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-25T12:49:28.559Z","text":"快递就是证据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q178be327f884a8cfb36c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q7f1787f3ab93cce5c117","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":278,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2026-02-25T13:03:46.843Z","text":"你参考已经存在的5份二巡强制令，看看都是如何阐述“为啥要申请强制令”，再结合你自己的情况看看不够不格，借助ChatGPT,claude等工具给你出谋划策写文案。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe29d0f40e7bb9800584f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f1787f3ab93cce5c117","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe29d0f40e7bb9800584f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q2bcbf0b5c5cb5f801a6f","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":279,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2026-02-25T13:05:37.423Z","text":"每个人情况都多少有所不同，把AI工具用起来，会给你最适合的建议。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2bcbf0b5c5cb5f801a6f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q288b14c3c61995a5476b","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":280,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-25T13:25:54.971Z","text":"这次是真赢了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q288b14c3c61995a5476b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q6aaac2c1343a31ba5e85","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":281,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-25T13:32:47.498Z","text":"他们说的是，“ 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是想污染受害者吗？受害者和被告联系？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c7a20d6b68d644f39a8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q67f72b07be83da6c859c","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":284,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-25T13:35:47.228Z","text":"受害者能和被告有联系吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67f72b07be83da6c859c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qa7571e2d1ee2f9114b0b","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":285,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-25T13:36:39.447Z","text":"据说有很多人给郭写信，信都被mdc退回来了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7571e2d1ee2f9114b0b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q35ded079e5313a35e436","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":286,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-25T13:36:55.304Z","text":"也许郭根本不想和受害者有联系","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35ded079e5313a35e436","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qd7825b2f0670aea45564","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":287,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-25T13:37:33.059Z","text":"郭早就不想见这帮人了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q35ded079e5313a35e436","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd7825b2f0670aea45564","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35ded079e5313a35e436","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q947c9ec821e198be1df4","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":288,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-02-25T13:58:50.657Z","text":"Visiting an inmate at MDC Brooklyn requires being on an approved visitor list, which the inmate must initiate by sending you a form to complete. Visits must adhere to strict security, identification, and dress code rules, often scheduled on weekends or federal holidays. Crucially, MDC Brooklyn has previously suspended in-person visitation, making it essential to check their official site for current status before visiting","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdb61a7df9c9ca2ce3d04","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q947c9ec821e198be1df4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb61a7df9c9ca2ce3d04","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qc9db35e48249597ccff6","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":289,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-25T14:00:43.152Z","text":"青藤之前敢说所有人都不能见郭，包括家人也不能见，说明他以为“郭美”会配合他，他没想到“郭美”不配合。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2b14cde40135a8d5f9b3","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9db35e48249597ccff6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q7295f68bc35b0c12724b","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":290,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-25T14:01:30.838Z","text":"我觉得这个郭美是不是故意想做出不是联盟控制的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc9db35e48249597ccff6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7295f68bc35b0c12724b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9db35e48249597ccff6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q2e7f10f3f08926567533","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":291,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-25T14:02:08.603Z","text":"不知道。但是至少青藤以前是认为他可以控制“郭美”。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7295f68bc35b0c12724b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e7f10f3f08926567533","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7295f68bc35b0c12724b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q8f1d079c5fe284a81c7f","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":292,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-25T14:02:35.713Z","text":"后来不知道为什么，“郭美”和他们产生了分歧。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f1d079c5fe284a81c7f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q98227c98a06a15860420","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":293,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-25T14:02:56.912Z","text":"我觉得他们沟通不是很好","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q98227c98a06a15860420","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q7def52829ddf9b692947","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":294,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-25T14:03:18.204Z","text":"郭美是老联盟的人控制的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7def52829ddf9b692947","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qd44f5d9a31fe0ebe0d8a","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":295,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-25T14:03:21.374Z","text":"好处不给够","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd44f5d9a31fe0ebe0d8a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qcdf6dc2c8b1343c8cb1d","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":296,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-25T14:03:23.118Z","text":"不行的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcdf6dc2c8b1343c8cb1d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qf7f89da2200475669565","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":297,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-25T14:03:33.490Z","text":"这反射弧是不是有点太长了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf91183d6669fc3472980","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf7f89da2200475669565","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf91183d6669fc3472980","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q5a41585ac0a6246ed1bf","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":298,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-25T14:04:14.475Z","text":"这个没关系吧，律师已经说了受害人并不认为是被告的受害人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7c7a20d6b68d644f39a8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a41585ac0a6246ed1bf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c7a20d6b68d644f39a8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qf43eaf846fe4b4a90dd7","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":299,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-25T14:04:53.627Z","text":"那就不知道了，这个案子就是乱","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5a41585ac0a6246ed1bf","reply_status":"available","has_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我要是不同意 你们一分钱都拿不到","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd87f47c3d075a047688d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1552bb197c4947cdd3d4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd87f47c3d075a047688d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q0803cb9cc6d7b52d560b","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":301,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-25T14:07:28.224Z","text":"他是说给青 听的\n意思是 不要对他落井下石","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0803cb9cc6d7b52d560b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qf87040ef8f4bfaf130db","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":302,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-25T14:07:39.240Z","text":"这个账号早就被鸟扒过了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7295f68bc35b0c12724b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf87040ef8f4bfaf130db","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7295f68bc35b0c12724b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qe2ac61c11548ce8c7606","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":303,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-02-25T14:10:54.359Z","text":"有。看一下361 364， 自己的观点不要与已经立案的重复太多， 要有新的东西。 根据自己情况写好后， 用 Gemini AI， 一句话一句话的 问， 写， 让它用二巡能接受的语言写","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe29d0f40e7bb9800584f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2ac61c11548ce8c7606","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe29d0f40e7bb9800584f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qc54ec3ab5858d50aba62","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":304,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-02-25T14:12:22.818Z","text":"大家歇歇吧： 这个郭美肯定是真郭美。老郭打出来的电话有些也是真的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc54ec3ab5858d50aba62","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q4d3889e93f516bacf30b","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":305,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-25T14:13:46.741Z","text":"青藤妄想控制真郭美？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc54ec3ab5858d50aba62","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d3889e93f516bacf30b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc54ec3ab5858d50aba62","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qb0a10c330676c2310c0d","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":306,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-25T14:15:15.354Z","text":"除非郭美和青藤他们也是一伙的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0a10c330676c2310c0d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qe1a0ba22eccf8221f8dc","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":307,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-02-25T14:15:16.643Z","text":"T卡血洗战友后，青藤提过郭美了吗？ 我印象中他从来没提过","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1a0ba22eccf8221f8dc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q25f9f6a1f798c61ed0bb","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":308,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-25T14:15:31.985Z","text":"有这么缺的丫头吗，亲爹蹲冤狱一千多天了，还天天傻呵呵写小作文儿","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc54ec3ab5858d50aba62","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25f9f6a1f798c61ed0bb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc54ec3ab5858d50aba62","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q958fb817f22cac9f7f54","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":309,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-25T14:16:02.481Z","text":"只能说这个账号不是粪青控制","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe1a0ba22eccf8221f8dc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q958fb817f22cac9f7f54","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1a0ba22eccf8221f8dc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q55e7e63f26df59c8724e","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":310,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-25T14:16:11.898Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":"q958fb817f22cac9f7f54","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55e7e63f26df59c8724e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q958fb817f22cac9f7f54","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q5903b922dbec422cdc9e","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":311,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-02-25T14:16:12.972Z","text":"郭美是郭先生对外沟通的一个渠道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5903b922dbec422cdc9e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qd59470a5fe411aba3083","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":312,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-25T14:16:21.959Z","text":"鸟粪之间一定有分歧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd59470a5fe411aba3083","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qec284e1ae0231d90327b","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":313,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-25T14:16:41.842Z","text":"他们自己估计就分裂出好几个帮派","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd59470a5fe411aba3083","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec284e1ae0231d90327b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd59470a5fe411aba3083","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q49cc6067a5c1bd369c23","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":314,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-25T14:16:55.440Z","text":"鸟拿钱 背锅 不发声\n目前苍天不也是这样","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd59470a5fe411aba3083","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q49cc6067a5c1bd369c23","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd59470a5fe411aba3083","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q44bc98ad1c02655ec44a","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":315,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-02-25T14:17:18.939Z","text":"806 文件 我越想越觉得咱们能干挺多事。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44bc98ad1c02655ec44a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q7cfb3f431b2403d7b878","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":316,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-25T14:18:38.441Z","text":"之前说了 郭会在动议里 透露一些细节传递信息\n这是最靠谱的\n其他人传话 可信度打折扣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5903b922dbec422cdc9e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7cfb3f431b2403d7b878","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5903b922dbec422cdc9e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q975a640b180ae3a05df5","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":317,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-25T14:19:00.822Z","text":"比如？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q44bc98ad1c02655ec44a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q975a640b180ae3a05df5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44bc98ad1c02655ec44a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q87fbc4aff57481a46bee","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":318,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-25T14:19:28.334Z","text":"郭的动议是郭的律师写的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7cfb3f431b2403d7b878","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87fbc4aff57481a46bee","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7cfb3f431b2403d7b878","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q838e35eb01a970b4d63d","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":319,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-25T14:19:35.864Z","text":"不一定代表郭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q838e35eb01a970b4d63d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qb1968fe47dbe14485cf9","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":320,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-25T14:19:39.697Z","text":"现在主要靠咱们二巡几个了，将来如果再开853也许会又出来一波人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1968fe47dbe14485cf9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qe3c514e4c8b1580171ef","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":321,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-25T14:19:48.183Z","text":"想代表郭的人，太多了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3c514e4c8b1580171ef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q3a4c5815a99bddac968a","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":322,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-25T14:20:18.023Z","text":"最怕这个，律师不按郭的意志行事","edited":false,"reply_to":"q838e35eb01a970b4d63d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a4c5815a99bddac968a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q838e35eb01a970b4d63d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q9e6f0fdfbd7687def53c","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":323,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-25T14:20:26.421Z","text":"之前说了 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只有郭懂这么多细节","edited":false,"reply_to":"q87fbc4aff57481a46bee","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e6f0fdfbd7687def53c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87fbc4aff57481a46bee","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q08e8e0f1a1d565e83872","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":324,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-25T14:20:27.781Z","text":"现在最可靠的就是事实，和郭自己说的话，比如700文件","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08e8e0f1a1d565e83872","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q2461d83a8acbdfee7820","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":325,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-25T14:21:34.483Z","text":"法庭上没人说事实","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2461d83a8acbdfee7820","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q80dff9782c69d1fa584f","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":326,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-25T14:23:12.999Z","text":"比如 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目前不还是有一群鸟的死忠傻X","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80dff9782c69d1fa584f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q508fc4c0bf27e49341be","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":327,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-25T14:23:32.784Z","text":"给吹牛老爹写的支持信，是郭自己写的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q508fc4c0bf27e49341be","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qe6445f0cae68bc62b8a2","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":328,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-25T14:23:45.240Z","text":"还涂黑好几行","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe6445f0cae68bc62b8a2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q047ca8f94725cb5eac79","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":329,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-25T14:24:00.061Z","text":"700文件涂黑一大片","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q047ca8f94725cb5eac79","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qb3a4e09720b2f1c4fb7b","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":330,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-25T14:25:02.534Z","text":"现在5个强制令又如何？他们根本不知道这意味着啥，因为联盟汇报没有说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb3a4e09720b2f1c4fb7b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q7b23485638fa57d3c925","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":331,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-25T14:25:20.301Z","text":"反正郭只要发声，肯定被涂黑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b23485638fa57d3c925","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q2599f204f3340c07f3fa","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":332,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-25T14:25:37.895Z","text":"所有发声渠道被垄断","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2599f204f3340c07f3fa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q40454849c6b2800ce5cc","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":333,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-25T14:25:40.469Z","text":"其实目前青 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人人喊打","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40454849c6b2800ce5cc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q6ae65df0d959be44054a","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":334,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-25T14:25:59.101Z","text":"郭自己被各种人代表","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ae65df0d959be44054a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q206bdb601d1d282ad202","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":335,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-25T14:26:47.454Z","text":"人人喊打了吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q40454849c6b2800ce5cc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q206bdb601d1d282ad202","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40454849c6b2800ce5cc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q0eeb6d4f44a93df00f35","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":336,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-25T14:27:32.988Z","text":"X上转直播的留言 下面基本都是骂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0eeb6d4f44a93df00f35","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qaf96ede239196a3b6fa9","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":337,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-25T14:28:38.180Z","text":"盖特上 没办法 4000隐士的工作 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该负责的是什么钱？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf50590b5018670b8695","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q59944a3f61dab566ca8c","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":371,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-25T14:56:53.311Z","text":"检方现在根本不理辩方这些问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59944a3f61dab566ca8c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qe181dd387e289ff5e3f9","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":372,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-25T14:57:15.995Z","text":"检方现在拿着陪审团判决和rico两个尚方宝剑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe181dd387e289ff5e3f9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q88bf39a0559bc389aa59","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":373,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-02-25T14:57:21.461Z","text":"那就量不了刑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q88bf39a0559bc389aa59","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qec3fb85b9ad0ee6cb042","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":374,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-25T14:57:33.315Z","text":"检方说这些人全是受害人，没有什么853","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec3fb85b9ad0ee6cb042","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qcf1a21c3fc3722f1a8f0","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":375,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-25T14:57:49.471Z","text":"郭文贵是罪犯，陪审团裁决的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf1a21c3fc3722f1a8f0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q73bc4544ac1ba64374b3","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":376,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-02-25T14:58:02.112Z","text":"853n的人 不同意","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73bc4544ac1ba64374b3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q42fb942afeaef5bcdc14","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":377,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-25T14:58:20.801Z","text":"反正我估计现在检方不会回应这些问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42fb942afeaef5bcdc14","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q7077cf18e544ea2f9c90","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":378,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-02-25T14:58:46.476Z","text":"所以才去了二巡。并且立案了 364","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7077cf18e544ea2f9c90","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q6ff87236d9c8639ab401","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":379,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-25T15:00:22.294Z","text":"现在关键是陪审团的裁决，辩方律师都要尊重的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ff87236d9c8639ab401","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q02e63a54864e62462749","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":380,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-25T15:00:44.856Z","text":"除非能用程序不正义推翻陪审团裁决","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02e63a54864e62462749","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q1542b083f439e43c3fc8","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":381,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-02-25T15:05:32.636Z","text":"给二巡的文件要严肃的按照他们要求的格式写； 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我都不记得","edited":true,"reply_to":"q1b9a9e86abed00881307","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f4774013c4e13157abd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b9a9e86abed00881307","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q067cf4f9f19d8de7cc20","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":386,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-25T15:11:17.626Z","text":"不是原话","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q067cf4f9f19d8de7cc20","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qbff7419e8a5698677918","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":387,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-25T15:11:21.116Z","text":"就是意思","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbff7419e8a5698677918","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q9bdbfb6228823f23ed36","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":388,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-25T15:11:31.662Z","text":"我只记得小羊以前不停地说，不是同案犯就是受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9bdbfb6228823f23ed36","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q4bb153625cea7535bcaf","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":389,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-25T15:11:39.181Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4bb153625cea7535bcaf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qaca6a7f878f08d31183e","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":390,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-25T15:11:48.147Z","text":"但是现在连同案犯都成了受害者了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaca6a7f878f08d31183e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q71b0f7146ba4e75881ca","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":391,"speaker":"wei***","date":"2026-02-25T15:15:12.236Z","text":"金钱判决的金额直接决定量刑结果，13亿的金额会直接把刑期拉到顶，法官很可能30分。这也是有些人歪曲、吓唬不能填853的原因。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71b0f7146ba4e75881ca","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q114b60d000f8782db8a5","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":392,"speaker":"wei***","date":"2026-02-25T15:18:52.823Z","text":"如果政府主张的13亿最后变成了辩方希望的1.5亿，甚至更少，甚至最后把夏其东等人的1亿加进去一算，金钱判决的金额是负数，那难看的就是检方了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q114b60d000f8782db8a5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qdb98cd074481b8065582","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":393,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-25T15:18:59.663Z","text":"853n可以发，但是最后法庭估计不会让通过。法庭不通过，不等于申请人不能发。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q71b0f7146ba4e75881ca","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb98cd074481b8065582","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71b0f7146ba4e75881ca","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qf5003ae87f7ce5c269ae","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":394,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-25T15:19:30.212Z","text":"853不可能被批准的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q114b60d000f8782db8a5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5003ae87f7ce5c269ae","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q114b60d000f8782db8a5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q86c8ab1e8fa740826768","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":395,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-25T15:19:47.944Z","text":"法官有裁量权 在南区 托雷斯还是土皇帝","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86c8ab1e8fa740826768","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q5f087684ed6ebc338e21","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":396,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-25T15:19:48.699Z","text":"申请人做什么都是自己的自由，但是不要和被告还有同案犯扯上关系","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f087684ed6ebc338e21","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qf9917a525f11d308891e","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":397,"speaker":"wei***","date":"2026-02-25T15:20:05.899Z","text":"853填不填是自己的事，法院通不通过是法院的事。最终的法律定义和法律责任的归属性质完全不一样。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9917a525f11d308891e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qf3f4f447ceda1a183835","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":398,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-25T15:20:08.591Z","text":"独立的申请是可以的，被操纵就有问题了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3f4f447ceda1a183835","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q67871e17f95a934d89aa","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":399,"speaker":"wei***","date":"2026-02-25T15:23:02.832Z","text":"是的，这个一定得基于自愿。但是853刚出来的时候，网络上那么多人故意歪曲解读，说这是害七哥的。\n金钱判决的金额太重要了，从最近的法庭文件就可以看出来，多次交锋都是围绕着金钱判决的最终金额。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67871e17f95a934d89aa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qd1e8ba080d9204394ee8","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":400,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-25T15:25:34.958Z","text":"之前网上带风向的人太多了，抹黑853n。现在郭的律师提853n了，可能有一些投资者要反应过来了。所以青藤要污染853n，我猜。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q67871e17f95a934d89aa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1e8ba080d9204394ee8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67871e17f95a934d89aa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000083","next_batch_id":"batch-000085"}