{"id":"batch-000084","number":84,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-02-25T02:53:52.938Z","date_end":"2026-02-27T20:41:59.380Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 084 (Feb 25, 2026 – Feb 27, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Discussions centered on pre- and post-sentencing proceedings and asset disposition, reflecting multi-layered friction without consensus. Participants disputed procedural boundaries under § 853(n), weighing defense rights against preventing trial delays. Further disagreements concerned evidentiary disclosure credibility, redactions, and proof adequacy. Debates also addressed victim definitions, forfeiture scope, restitution, sentencing tiers, organizational coordination, and whether CIPA or Brady disputes indicate procedural contamination. Overall, dialogue shifted from factual assessments toward procedural timelines and strategic litigation maneuvers.","guide_en":[{"title":"Sentencing delay dispute: Third extension request parallels political timeline expectations, dividing views between preserving defense rights and preventing endless delay","description":"Participants dispute whether sentencing should be postponed again, debating defense rights versus concerns over prolonged delay.","message_ids":["q70faaaa808b1f1972e1e","q0c528d3bd906e1eafe4d","q55b0b282622bc9a9ad38"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q70faaaa808b1f1972e1e","summary_en":"him*** summarizes ECF 807, outlining the defense's request to postpone the sentencing originally set for Apr 13, 2026, by approximately thirty days to obtain Rule 17(c) subpoena materials and review investor communications under 18 U.S.C. § 3553(a) and § 3661."},{"message_id":"q0c528d3bd906e1eafe4d","summary_en":"joh*** contends that the proceeding will not conclude until it is dragged out to the midterm elections."},{"message_id":"q55b0b282622bc9a9ad38","summary_en":"kir*** expresses frustration over having already waited four months."}]},{"title":"Compulsory subpoena boundaries: Dispute over whether orders should only obtain documents or detain witnesses and whether lines were crossed","description":"Participants debate the proper scope of compulsory subpoenas, questioning whether requests should target only document production or witness attendance.","message_ids":["q959a2f6d7062179e8e52","qa75fa6463cdf269c8e1f","q72a88556b3829c8909fd"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q959a2f6d7062179e8e52","summary_en":"beg*** contends that compulsory summons became necessary because desired witnesses failed to appear."},{"message_id":"qa75fa6463cdf269c8e1f","summary_en":"beg*** argues that specific organizational members should also fall within the scope of the subpoena."},{"message_id":"q72a88556b3829c8909fd","summary_en":"him*** asserts that the compulsory process is aimed at retrieving documents and evidence rather than detaining witnesses."}]},{"title":"The § 853(n) procedural path: Controversy over whether petitions received must be formally submitted to court by prosecutors and heard","description":"Participants debate procedural handling under § 853(n), questioning whether petitions routed to the prosecution require formal court docketing and hearings.","message_ids":["q515832edfba8a1fa01b1","q1b0103e1c0d6b440d184","q8b0acf15f28d8ab7f64e"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q515832edfba8a1fa01b1","summary_en":"beg*** cites an excerpt describing an anonymous petitioner who sent a petition under § 853(n) to the clerk of court in early April 2025 that was forwarded to the government but not docketed."},{"message_id":"q1b0103e1c0d6b440d184","summary_en":"him*** asks whether the prosecution has an obligation to submit a § 853(n) petition to the court after receiving it."},{"message_id":"q8b0acf15f28d8ab7f64e","summary_en":"reb*** contends that the government previously claimed it would submit petitions to the court but subsequently decided against doing so."}]},{"title":"Third-party standing and availability: Significant divergence on verifying identity first versus leaving determination to subsequent hearings","description":"Participants dispute the prerequisites for third-party petitions under § 853(n), discussing whether standing must be verified prior to granting a hearing.","message_ids":["q1a16ed18f438d129b7bb","q7ed9e8d45d3fd87d6f3f","qf37351b8c2a239387f84"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q1a16ed18f438d129b7bb","summary_en":"reb*** argues that investors must not forfeit their § 853(n) rights, asserting that third-party standing is confirmed through hearings rather than established beforehand."},{"message_id":"q7ed9e8d45d3fd87d6f3f","summary_en":"him*** contends that opposition focuses not on claims purely seeking money, but rather on § 853(n) petitions raising procedural challenges."},{"message_id":"qf37351b8c2a239387f84","summary_en":"reb*** contends that § 853(n) petitions address bankruptcy procedural defects and clarify that relevant G-series entities do not belong to the defendant, necessitating a Southern District hearing."}]},{"title":"Ongoing dispute over victim boundaries: Whether co-defendants or co-actors can simultaneously be regarded as victims","description":"Participants dispute the boundaries of victim status, debating whether participants or co-actors can be legally recognized as victims.","message_ids":["q3e85609644887de98455","q584fe40e582c2cb87c60","qbbac1935036bdd551083"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q3e85609644887de98455","summary_en":"kir*** argues that the framework excludes § 853 provisions."},{"message_id":"q584fe40e582c2cb87c60","summary_en":"kir*** contends that the legal classification recognizes only victims."},{"message_id":"qbbac1935036bdd551083","summary_en":"him*** affirms agreement that this reasoning represents the actual legal logic."}]},{"title":"Forfeiture scope and asset ownership: Whether confiscation can extend to GTV and related corporate accounts","description":"Participants examine the legal boundaries of asset forfeiture, questioning whether confiscation orders can encompass GTV and affiliated corporate accounts.","message_ids":["q0c9881f3393ed8435a46","q42ad64b2269910bda6d1","q261e31681f60900f6178"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q0c9881f3393ed8435a46","summary_en":"reb*** argues that the prosecution lacks statutory or case law authority to forfeit GTV under conspiracy theories where the specific project itself was not fraudulent."},{"message_id":"q42ad64b2269910bda6d1","summary_en":"kir*** contends that the court would only approve the sale of vehicles."},{"message_id":"q261e31681f60900f6178","summary_en":"joh*** argues that the prosecution has no basis to forfeit GTV given the jury verdict and the prior SEC settlement."}]},{"title":"Evidence disclosure credibility debate: Document redactions, livestream logs, and financial flows repeatedly examined","description":"Participants scrutinize the reliability of evidentiary disclosures, debating redactions, public statements, and financial tracing records.","message_ids":["q80dff9782c69d1fa584f","q508fc4c0bf27e49341be","q19d5daa6453fb5bc382b"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q80dff9782c69d1fa584f","summary_en":"joh*** notes the emergence of specific named individuals in the disclosures who had not been mentioned previously."},{"message_id":"q508fc4c0bf27e49341be","summary_en":"him*** claims that a letter of support written for Sean Combs was drafted by the defendant himself."},{"message_id":"q19d5daa6453fb5bc382b","summary_en":"him*** argues that focusing solely on monetary figures is futile because everyone remains legally categorized as a victim unless the conviction is overturned."}]},{"title":"Organizational relationships and chain of command: Inconclusive debate over whether Alliance, Ivy, and defense counsel resources operate in unison","description":"Participants evaluate organizational relationships and chains of 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那就做实了无效辩护","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e3a643013b1ecc1cc92","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q55b0b282622bc9a9ad38","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":603,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-26T07:27:13.453Z","text":"操 等了四个月了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55b0b282622bc9a9ad38","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q3ccce78fbe39d1a7e069","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":604,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-26T07:47:29.768Z","text":"穷的没啥了，用个led屏也要显摆显摆https://x.com/no3mos/status/2026422208155750892?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ccce78fbe39d1a7e069","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qddef76d54a166e1fc8e7","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":605,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-02-26T08:01:51.541Z","text":"可是他们还似乎安然无恙，该干嘛干嘛。\n深水炸弹都已经出现了，好像一个坏蛋都没炸到。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaebc887d63faafbf31a5","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qddef76d54a166e1fc8e7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q4db13c51fc4927224fc9","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":606,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-02-26T08:04:19.844Z","text":"全部穿的我们的钱，用的也是我们的钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4db13c51fc4927224fc9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q043948724a8b89c4f6c0","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":607,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-26T08:06:01.591Z","text":"是吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q23cc603d46c9e52576ab","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q043948724a8b89c4f6c0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qa7f9e739dd16e5be0e44","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":608,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-02-26T08:06:21.125Z","text":"我记得几万美元一件","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7f9e739dd16e5be0e44","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qbb32d59a927539a64f5f","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":609,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-26T08:12:26.008Z","text":"这就是他们没钱的证据 佳佳穿的是男款","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0edb707e2eb7541bbd74","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb32d59a927539a64f5f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q6bc9c60ee096877334fe","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":610,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-26T08:18:40.721Z","text":"直播还说明一个问题啊 他们的演播室在地下室 没暖气 不然为嘛穿那么厚","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6bc9c60ee096877334fe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q7f242ff2cf2818dade19","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":611,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-02-26T08:19:33.117Z","text":"分析到位，明显没暖气","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f242ff2cf2818dade19","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q8329f2f6861d1e80eaad","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":612,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-26T08:30:58.585Z","text":"瑞恩的renew 强制令","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2df811ae92332dd252d4","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8329f2f6861d1e80eaad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q80149736d6d854d5e967","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":613,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-26T08:31:06.479Z","text":"那是量刑前的终极一招","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80149736d6d854d5e967","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qae156418c8c58cae750b","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":614,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-02-26T08:49:28.159Z","text":"希望还有二巡立案，搞七个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae156418c8c58cae750b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q0203c60b1e6f65581384","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":615,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-26T08:50:24.461Z","text":"二巡再立案 估计量级会越来越大","edited":false,"reply_to":"qae156418c8c58cae750b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0203c60b1e6f65581384","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae156418c8c58cae750b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q0740c05ff6e4ac3eb9af","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":616,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-26T08:50:38.169Z","text":"比托尼的还严重","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0740c05ff6e4ac3eb9af","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q862caf1cdf4b061115ec","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":617,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-26T08:50:47.070Z","text":"那搞不好是灭爆小组直接上来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q862caf1cdf4b061115ec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q918113e213238be3f0ce","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":618,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-26T08:50:53.986Z","text":"反咬说共产党操控","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q918113e213238be3f0ce","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q02f4d63cd8564e066388","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":619,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-26T08:51:08.139Z","text":"413判刑 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AI都帮不了它\n或者是真蠢 或者是故意要带偏风向\n853n 是给法官 让法官判钱归投资者 和检方（政府）无关 绕过它们\n检方（政府）没资格动这笔钱 更不能没收\n怎么成了 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也不对好台词。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc1687925e8968e2565bb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf463ff56f240f819cff6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1687925e8968e2565bb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q0623e5618e63e8036269","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":630,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-26T12:45:33.129Z","text":"看来最近mdc退信的很多。之前青藤不还说不鼓励大家查AI吗，现在口风变了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0623e5618e63e8036269","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q95c88732fb74ba0a4faa","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":631,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-26T12:48:14.708Z","text":"安小东不是挺盖尔的吗？盖尔不是用853i吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7537e0eee4b124c97f70","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95c88732fb74ba0a4faa","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7537e0eee4b124c97f70","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qbcea36bd025f074a44a2","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":632,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-26T12:49:20.015Z","text":"364谈luc的，不也上传了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q23cfd4ed9f3d00e6a223","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbcea36bd025f074a44a2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23cfd4ed9f3d00e6a223","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q7b73a5c54917de8b2aac","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":633,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-26T12:49:58.359Z","text":"我觉得二巡立案没什么规律，多试试，就有机会","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b73a5c54917de8b2aac","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q5d1708a76a2fa308501e","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":634,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-26T12:55:44.815Z","text":"郭的律师不是在和张勇兵（？）代理的人对接吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8e3a643013b1ecc1cc92","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d1708a76a2fa308501e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e3a643013b1ecc1cc92","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qfd7ae26a1af39e9913bf","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":635,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-26T12:56:27.519Z","text":"也许他们会跟那些联盟鼓动的人，不会跟Tony？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd7ae26a1af39e9913bf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q724bf382e614ff9402ae","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":636,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-26T12:57:20.120Z","text":"郭的律师也只是配合联盟，自诉的人他们不理。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q724bf382e614ff9402ae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qdf4b0ea8ca13a98e1230","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":637,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-26T12:59:07.477Z","text":"他不是[删节：成员身份]吗？😂","edited":true,"reply_to":"q877a0558104047620a63","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf4b0ea8ca13a98e1230","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q4778bd9abeffc95978ef","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":638,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-26T13:01:20.182Z","text":"那也是有神的夹持，才能做到，不是人的布局。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q90d44f572a52ab023e89","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4778bd9abeffc95978ef","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90d44f572a52ab023e89","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q39ad62683b6a19a4ff71","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":639,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-26T13:11:31.082Z","text":"检方用开很多账户这个原因证明g系列洗钱不知道是不是合理，但是检方确实说过郭申请破产就是为了转移资产，洗钱。联盟农场那些人都是郭的代理人，帮郭藏钱。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfc97c3f6c3fc2713d966","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39ad62683b6a19a4ff71","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc97c3f6c3fc2713d966","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qf7c780dda7918d52d6e2","batch_id":"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中国有权提出","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdddea4bfec1153def428","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf7c780dda7918d52d6e2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qfa339b3eadb0e008526c","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":641,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-26T13:34:30.121Z","text":"中国不会提出吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf7c780dda7918d52d6e2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa339b3eadb0e008526c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf7c780dda7918d52d6e2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q75a73c5965c3724ca903","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":642,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-26T13:34:59.365Z","text":"谁知道呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfa339b3eadb0e008526c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q75a73c5965c3724ca903","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa339b3eadb0e008526c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q1bc575cd235fd8b57eb7","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":643,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-26T13:35:16.034Z","text":"党内如果真的有战友","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1bc575cd235fd8b57eb7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qd575665d6f07f4819501","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":644,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-26T13:39:46.848Z","text":"我查了一下机器人，似乎联盟同案犯让受害者联系辩方律师提供证据这件事，是合法的，除非他们虚假陈述。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd575665d6f07f4819501","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q7e5aa2b4b52854e32080","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":645,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-26T13:40:19.692Z","text":"不合法","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd575665d6f07f4819501","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e5aa2b4b52854e32080","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd575665d6f07f4819501","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qfc01afafdcb8015fdc26","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":646,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-26T13:40:35.396Z","text":"因为他们作为了控制的管道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc01afafdcb8015fdc26","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qdc5190555f686072801b","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":647,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-26T13:40:39.796Z","text":"污染了证据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc5190555f686072801b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q5b4e0a689cb894ec5110","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":648,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-26T13:41:24.461Z","text":"觉得不太可能。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1bc575cd235fd8b57eb7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b4e0a689cb894ec5110","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1bc575cd235fd8b57eb7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qa7066367398fb64b548d","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":649,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-26T13:41:44.847Z","text":"这是个律师攻击的点","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5b4e0a689cb894ec5110","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7066367398fb64b548d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b4e0a689cb894ec5110","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q2a54cd084a74f4dc69bb","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":650,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-26T13:42:21.667Z","text":"这个行为本身不构成法律责任 但是你控制管道 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有数千受害者 起诉郭王余和共谋 指挥几个实体 骗钱欺诈\n王燕平认罪了 洗钱就成立 有欺诈行为 几个实体被Rico\n检方污点证人 木兰 鸟 王雪冰 Gclub CEO 都承认转钱犯罪 但指认郭是boss 换不起诉\n辩方律师[屏蔽词] 或者故意 不反驳\n那时候 没有第三方不同声音\n陪审团看到的 就是这些 叙事闭环形成","edited":true,"reply_to":"qcb2bb6d636316da7bff9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52b557d65a1436cf6e26","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb2bb6d636316da7bff9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q98deccaac2edbe13935a","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":665,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-02-26T17:57:39.545Z","text":"https://x.com/sarahzh67248600/status/2027077748964073950?s=12&t=eXMPp66CZUFD_7vvMedcSA","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q98deccaac2edbe13935a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qd43651db760b33cef7e2","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":666,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-02-26T23:54:26.781Z","text":"刚刚又看了一下南区 还是没有公布361 364 - 这脸可能打的太狠， 都不上传二巡的了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd43651db760b33cef7e2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q2b7fa91962f93be46c34","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":667,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-26T23:54:50.488Z","text":"［用户 pz0***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b7fa91962f93be46c34","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q2f7d534a8e1d8303c9db","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":668,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2026-02-27T00:14:08.762Z","text":"并案后用的新的案号吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f7d534a8e1d8303c9db","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q308900f4f6ff09877abd","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":669,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-27T00:26:56.326Z","text":"到底延期没","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q308900f4f6ff09877abd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q36b9234c31b6edbcec37","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":670,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T00:28:32.518Z","text":"https://x.com/i/status/2026618751949402267","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36b9234c31b6edbcec37","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qc3e4ae73ce144c4ac340","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":671,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T00:28:53.488Z","text":"郭律师多次引用第六修正案？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc3e4ae73ce144c4ac340","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qde2e2c29db35c5f3407e","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":672,"speaker":"xiy***","date":"2026-02-27T01:27:45.329Z","text":"**第一部分：案件背景与核心争议——被“消失”的投资者声音**\n\n然而，事情的发展却出人意料。在 2025 年 4 月 21 日的截止日期前，政府报告称共收到了大约 303 份 § 853(n) 请愿书。按照法律程序，这些请愿书都应该被提交给法院，由法官进行审查和裁决。但令人震惊的是，直到 2026 年 1 月 20 日的听证会，辩方律师才发现，在法院的正式记录中，只有 134 份请愿书被登记在案。那么，剩下的 238 份请愿书，也就是超过三分之二的申请，究竟去了哪里？\n\nECF 806 号文件，正是针对这一“消失的请愿书”事件的强力反击。辩方律师在动议中指出，政府在未经法院授权的情况下，擅自将这 238 份请愿书重新分类为“请求返还”（Petitions for Remission）。这两种分类，在法律程序和后果上，有着天壤之别。\n\n**第二部分：法律的灰色地带——“请愿书”与“请求返还”的本质区别**\n\n让我们用一个通俗的例子来解释“请愿书”和“请求返还”的区别。想象一下，你和你的邻居因为一块地皮的归属权打官司。你写了一份详细的声明，提交给法官，要求法官裁定这块地是你的。这份声明，就是 § 853(n) 请愿书。法官会听取你的陈述，也会听取对方的意见，然后根据法律和证据做出公正的判决。\n\n而“请求返还”又是什么呢？这就像你不是直接把声明交给法官，而是交给了你的邻居。你的邻居说：“哦，我知道你想要这块地，我来帮你处理吧。”然后你的邻居自己决定这块地是不是你的，甚至不让法官知道有这份声明的存在。这就是政府现在对那 238 份请愿书所做的事情。\n\n从法律角度来看，§ 853(n) 请愿书的审理，是司法程序的一部分，受到严格的法律约束和法官的监督。请愿人有权获得法律代表，有权提交证据，有权进行听证，最终由法官做出具有法律效力的裁决。而“请求返还”则是一种行政程序，由政府机构内部自行处理，透明度极低，请愿人的权利保障也大打折扣。政府可以根据自己的内部政策和酌情权来决定是否返还财产，而无需经过法院的严格审查。\n\n辩方律师在 ECF 806 号文件中明确指出，政府的这种行为，不仅违反了 § 853(n) 条款的强制性要求，更是严重侵犯了请愿人的“正当程序”权利。政府无权擅自将司法请愿书降级为行政请求，这相当于剥夺了请愿人寻求法院公正裁决的机会。更深层次的担忧是，政府通过这种方式，实际上是在“过滤”和“审查”那些可能对其不利的投资者声音，从而维护其“大规模欺诈”的叙事。\n\n**第三部分：投资者们的呐喊——“我们不是受害者！”**\n\nECF 807 号文件，则揭示了另一个令人震惊的事实：大量投资者正在主动联系辩方律师，明确表示他们不认为自己是郭文贵先生的“欺诈受害者”。\n\n自 2026 年 1 月 20 日的听证会以来，辩方律师团队收到了“源源不断”的投资者来信和沟通。这些投资者来自世界各地，他们用自己的亲身经历，讲述了一个与政府指控截然不同的故事。他们表示，自己是出于对郭文贵先生及其“爆料革命”的信任和支持，自愿投资 GTV、喜马拉雅交易所等平台。他们清楚投资的风险，也理解市场波动可能带来的损失。他们认为，自己的投资损失，并非源于郭文贵先生的欺诈，而是由于政府对相关资产的查封和没收，导致他们的资金被冻结，无法正常运作。\n\n这些投资者不仅否认自己是受害者，甚至对郭文贵先生表达了积极的评价和支持。他们认为，政府的指控是出于政治目的，旨在打压“爆料革命”和郭文贵先生本人。这种来自“受害者”本人的强烈反驳，无疑是对政府起诉逻辑的巨大冲击。\n\n想象一下，一个警察抓了一个小偷，指控他偷了某个人的钱包。结果，那个被指控的“受害者”却跑出来说：“不，他没偷我的钱包，我的钱包是警察没收的！”这听起来是不是很荒谬？但这就是现在美国诉郭文贵案中正在发生的事情。\n\n辩方律师在 ECF 807 号文件中强调，这些投资者的证言至关重要。如果政府坚持认为郭文贵先生实施了大规模欺诈，那么这些“非受害者”的声音，就直接挑战了政府指控的基石。在量刑阶段，法院需要准确评估犯罪造成的损失和受害者人数。如果大量的“受害者”站出来否认受害，那么政府所主张的巨额没收金额，以及对郭文贵先生的量刑，都将失去其合法性和公正性。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde2e2c29db35c5f3407e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q22be069932b28696b7b6","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":673,"speaker":"xiy***","date":"2026-02-27T01:28:55.060Z","text":"司法博弈，已经超出了简单的金融诈骗全球化。它侵犯了美国司法系统的核心价值，也暴露了在国家安全和政治因素介入下，司法程序可能面临的挑战。那些……https://youtu.be/C45r6UcfDEc?si=JuJV9kBKRFNsannS通过\n@YouTube\n在2025年4月21日的采样日期之前，政府报告称共收到了大约303份§853(n)请愿书。按照法律程序，这些请愿书都应该提交给法院，由法官进行审查和裁决。但令人震惊的是，直到2026年1月20日的视觉会，辩方律师才发现，在法院的正式记录中，只有134那么，剩余的238份请愿书，到底超过三分之二的申请，究竟在哪里？ ECF 806号文件，正是针对“消失的请愿书”事件的强力反击。辩方律师在动议中指出，政府在尚未法院授权的情况下，初步自将238份返还请愿书重新将此分类为“请求还”（请愿书）这两种分类，在法律程序和后果上，都有天壤之别的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22be069932b28696b7b6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qf5f3aec7612515548f89","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":674,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-27T01:30:19.941Z","text":"https://x.com/focusnfsc/status/2027187143626437104?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5f3aec7612515548f89","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qdb47bea3c32a2a69d437","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":675,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-27T01:31:20.842Z","text":"联盟真的是人性中最丑陋的一面","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb47bea3c32a2a69d437","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qdb9838c4d8c11e9510fb","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":676,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-02-27T01:37:33.096Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 你敢不敢谈谈，老郭律师说的在检方手里的那几百份请愿或者索赔，是谁背后操控的啊？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb9838c4d8c11e9510fb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q5fcf70eded8084828a2c","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":677,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-02-27T01:38:47.606Z","text":"青藤团伙，忽悠人们填表，填过多个表格或者登记协议！你敢不敢详细谈谈，这是不是妨碍司法！这是不是误导投资者欺诈投资者！\n[删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5fcf70eded8084828a2c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qd91fe0fa9161fe62e095","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":678,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-02-27T01:40:15.161Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 一个盖尔。长岛时代就是误导欺诈投资者填表。青藤接手之后，盖尔的表格协议又操控搞过好几次，你敢不敢谈谈？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd91fe0fa9161fe62e095","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q3fe61fe6181cb2c26e8e","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":679,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-02-27T01:41:24.244Z","text":"这是不是妨碍司法！谈谈\n［用户 xiy***］   不是喊着唯真不破啊？我有没有撒谎造谣啊？长岛，青藤，他们到底有没有在背后通过误导欺诈手段操控忽悠这些投资者啊？敢不敢谈谈，怂包","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3fe61fe6181cb2c26e8e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q3d4861a5eeef5391ad58","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":680,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-27T01:44:22.882Z","text":"有1亿现金的大概3万人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d4861a5eeef5391ad58","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q2d2b62ff13fe47451ce3","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":681,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-27T01:44:30.836Z","text":"我们群才几个人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d2b62ff13fe47451ce3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qef1915f57f34c4bbabbd","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":682,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T01:45:04.568Z","text":"我没搞懂，郭律师天天盯着853n和remission，是想干嘛？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q22be069932b28696b7b6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef1915f57f34c4bbabbd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22be069932b28696b7b6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qcf77b0e942e13c37d59d","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":683,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-27T01:45:19.772Z","text":"律师就没想翻案","edited":false,"reply_to":"qef1915f57f34c4bbabbd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf77b0e942e13c37d59d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef1915f57f34c4bbabbd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qe768684d1bf43ae0f277","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":684,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T01:45:24.137Z","text":"有人给我解释一下吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe768684d1bf43ae0f277","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qcb45ccf75260681aa90d","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":685,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-27T01:45:31.646Z","text":"不能致富 他说他能剿匪 你信吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb45ccf75260681aa90d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qbce74ebc5e12723bb3a1","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":686,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-27T01:45:40.442Z","text":"致富和剿匪是一体的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbce74ebc5e12723bb3a1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qc26a2fa3bfc53381d894","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":687,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T01:45:45.595Z","text":"郭的律师又不是投资者的律师，他们天天盯着索赔，是想干嘛？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc26a2fa3bfc53381d894","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q148be3557dbeffdadd8f","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":688,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T01:46:34.888Z","text":"这些853n和remission对量刑影响很大吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q148be3557dbeffdadd8f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qbfa69a32f2250fe1e5fd","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":689,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-27T01:46:45.895Z","text":"如果把他们当人看，就是为把luc拽上庭打基础。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc26a2fa3bfc53381d894","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbfa69a32f2250fe1e5fd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc26a2fa3bfc53381d894","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q9a5fe77a223244e9bee1","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":690,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-27T01:46:59.380Z","text":"根本没鸡吧影响 托雷斯一纸orde全走remission","edited":false,"reply_to":"q148be3557dbeffdadd8f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a5fe77a223244e9bee1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q148be3557dbeffdadd8f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q4a1f6b9d8996c16b0318","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":691,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-02-27T01:47:32.636Z","text":"对投资者而言，联盟农场阶层，是除了郭文贵本人之外，最重要的一方!郭文贵被关起来之后，联盟农场因为郭文贵曾经的背书，事实上就是对投资者最重要影响最大的一方!\n庭审期间包括法庭文件记载里面，联盟农场非常不重要，一笔带过!\n联盟农场通过欺诈误导手段忽悠投资者填写登记的各种协议，去到法庭或者检方或者辩护律师那里的，全部涉嫌妨碍司法，干预刑事案件!","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a1f6b9d8996c16b0318","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q581a19efc73086982b4d","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":692,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-02-27T01:47:49.770Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 谈谈，上面的内容","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q581a19efc73086982b4d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qfd38e6a074ce683ed8f2","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":693,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-27T01:47:59.870Z","text":"瑞恩下一份文件将整个炸掉联盟","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4a1f6b9d8996c16b0318","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd38e6a074ce683ed8f2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a1f6b9d8996c16b0318","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q94511c77688cbd586785","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":694,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-27T01:56:06.801Z","text":"是不是可以说说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94511c77688cbd586785","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qeaeedff560af655c7450","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":695,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-27T01:56:15.252Z","text":"你要求公开所有郭的通话记录","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeaeedff560af655c7450","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qc0e25a9528230ceccb39","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":696,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-27T01:56:22.325Z","text":"脱敏探访记录","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0e25a9528230ceccb39","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qa6cd7eb67e0fec6edc67","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":697,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-27T01:56:37.771Z","text":"因为他们用的郭的名义背书的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6cd7eb67e0fec6edc67","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q7e8695ae256ae306a862","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":698,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T01:59:21.127Z","text":"可是那303份853n是不是都是纯要钱的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbfa69a32f2250fe1e5fd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e8695ae256ae306a862","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbfa69a32f2250fe1e5fd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qaaa5ba1d161df7e7993d","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":699,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T02:00:02.971Z","text":"303份853n能有多少钱？能减多少刑？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaaa5ba1d161df7e7993d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q0bc4ac1d6790b046dda6","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":700,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T02:00:44.970Z","text":"那些853n和luc没什么关系吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0bc4ac1d6790b046dda6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qf7a13fa652d99008c88a","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":701,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T02:02:11.877Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]可以说一下他怎么用么么币赚钱的😂","edited":true,"reply_to":"qa6cd7eb67e0fec6edc67","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf7a13fa652d99008c88a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6cd7eb67e0fec6edc67","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q93ad62f139d9f3b5e7ab","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":702,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-27T02:02:53.874Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 虽然我摸摸币赚了 但是我谴责那些用老郭背书割韭菜的","edited":true,"reply_to":"qf7a13fa652d99008c88a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93ad62f139d9f3b5e7ab","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf7a13fa652d99008c88a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qe26f526c8b64afcd1e7d","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":703,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-27T02:03:02.457Z","text":"［用户 xin***］ 我觉得这是可以打的点","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe26f526c8b64afcd1e7d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qa7bde9889620dbbe7e19","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":704,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-02-27T02:07:38.292Z","text":"联盟农场忽悠投资者受害者填表登记协议等等，不可能对郭文贵有什么正面帮助，只会让检方法官抓把柄把这些人最后说成是受害者或者捣乱而已。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7bde9889620dbbe7e19","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q7dc3e58d4683bd29cd25","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":705,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-02-27T02:11:27.852Z","text":"郭文贵还在监狱被插屁眼，你天天想着发财，是不是神经病啊？即使郭文贵出来，那些犯罪的公司，就啥事没有啊？[删节：成员身份]，就是把这些自诉人，搞臭，搞到低级到不能再低级的一群low货。是不是啊？\n［用户 xin***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7dc3e58d4683bd29cd25","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q2f76e18bb8f8445e13ad","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":706,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T02:11:28.428Z","text":"检方不可能说盖尔那些是联盟搞得，盖尔那些人是现成的受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa7bde9889620dbbe7e19","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f76e18bb8f8445e13ad","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7bde9889620dbbe7e19","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qfebd33efec5af4ec9e3b","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":707,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-02-27T02:12:47.288Z","text":"这就是逻辑死结啊！联盟农场其他被检方引用的，都成了对郭文贵不利的证据。为什么联盟农场搞的一大堆表格请愿，检方不用来给郭文贵加邢啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2f76e18bb8f8445e13ad","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfebd33efec5af4ec9e3b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f76e18bb8f8445e13ad","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qd27dbac7de45adcd986b","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":708,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-02-27T02:12:55.296Z","text":"检方眼睁睁瞎了啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd27dbac7de45adcd986b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q3440cb41adac497c5893","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":709,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-27T02:28:39.603Z","text":"只要有一份，也是一个入口，只要法官不乱来，那也是可以用来减刑，也得走程序。本案法官不让走，是因为一走，虚假债权暴露，案件彻底推翻。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7e8695ae256ae306a862","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3440cb41adac497c5893","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e8695ae256ae306a862","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q60fd8fc84f5dda2cbf0d","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":710,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-27T02:29:26.009Z","text":"管它是不是要钱，重点不是钱，而是的程序入口。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60fd8fc84f5dda2cbf0d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q55ffa6dab769af657620","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":711,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T02:30:34.916Z","text":"纯要钱的853n和虚假债权没关系吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3440cb41adac497c5893","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55ffa6dab769af657620","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3440cb41adac497c5893","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qf967d441bd15938f716f","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":712,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T02:30:55.112Z","text":"除非853n申请人提到虚假债权的事情","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf967d441bd15938f716f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qbe241eb93ee8e03af257","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":713,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T02:31:09.265Z","text":"就像26-364那个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe241eb93ee8e03af257","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q03aeb6fd95b636a746ff","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":714,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-27T02:31:40.362Z","text":"luc说钱是被告的，检方用这个说辞来证明投资者被诈骗,投资者说不是被告的。陪审团的定罪只对被告是否有罪法律效力，对财产所有权不自动产生法律效力，只要有争议，就得走所有权听证程序。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0bc4ac1d6790b046dda6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q03aeb6fd95b636a746ff","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0bc4ac1d6790b046dda6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qb63d183f8002d2aa8ada","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":715,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T02:31:56.353Z","text":"检方只采纳对检方有利的证据","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfebd33efec5af4ec9e3b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb63d183f8002d2aa8ada","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfebd33efec5af4ec9e3b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q61c19e8b5f4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你忘了啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2343a8cbfdf6b6a40032","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90fa08918e1e1eb3b9b4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2343a8cbfdf6b6a40032","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q084d7b7bf99c0a7cece9","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":764,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-27T03:17:36.049Z","text":"说什么小草还是谁给联盟捐款","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q084d7b7bf99c0a7cece9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qecba0ded900e74bd8f9e","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":765,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-27T03:17:39.094Z","text":"律师费给七哥","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qecba0ded900e74bd8f9e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q7fbedf0b16b1e3463d8d","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":766,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-27T03:17:41.135Z","text":"什么什么的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fbedf0b16b1e3463d8d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q9aaed5c8c117404ddc78","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":767,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-27T03:17:59.706Z","text":"［用户 roy***］ 你来解释一下？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9aaed5c8c117404ddc78","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qe59f39cb85e5519b32a1","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":768,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-02-27T03:54:04.210Z","text":"我不懂，因为我没捐律师费，但是我知道退律师费是这个波兰人那里退","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9aaed5c8c117404ddc78","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe59f39cb85e5519b32a1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9aaed5c8c117404ddc78","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q09db1188a21972a5e506","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":769,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-02-27T03:57:30.727Z","text":"这个波兰人，是郭文贵的前律师团成员啊？\n如果不是，为什么说捐款与这个律师有关系啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe59f39cb85e5519b32a1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q09db1188a21972a5e506","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe59f39cb85e5519b32a1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q80227066228159f218ff","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":770,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-27T03:58:08.738Z","text":"就是联盟律师","edited":false,"reply_to":"q09db1188a21972a5e506","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80227066228159f218ff","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q09db1188a21972a5e506","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q4002e966ea615609e2d8","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":771,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-02-27T03:59:23.136Z","text":"之前所谓律师费，联盟怎么说的啊？说的是他们自己的律师，还是给郭文贵凑律师费啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4002e966ea615609e2d8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q2f08b4d18e1923b8906b","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":772,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-27T04:00:09.106Z","text":"现在看来99.99999%是给这俩的律师","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4002e966ea615609e2d8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f08b4d18e1923b8906b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4002e966ea615609e2d8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qbebbc7d103ded6a854a6","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":773,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-02-27T04:00:48.937Z","text":"这两个律师，是干什么的啊？\n打什么官司了啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbebbc7d103ded6a854a6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q3a55e3c769e1ea4b5563","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":774,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-27T04:00:54.986Z","text":"不知道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a55e3c769e1ea4b5563","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q7300a75f37c550a96881","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":775,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-02-27T04:16:11.289Z","text":"你也太抬举喜一鸣了吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q581a19efc73086982b4d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7300a75f37c550a96881","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q581a19efc73086982b4d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"q1e5f88c5e4f52434e659","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":776,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-27T05:34:10.795Z","text":"9分钟后谈到了tony","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e5f88c5e4f52434e659","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qec07e9b9828c39fbb85e","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":777,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-27T05:34:16.269Z","text":"但完全是胡说八道！！！！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec07e9b9828c39fbb85e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000084"},{"id":"qd8e4ab7a43faabfbc54f","batch_id":"batch-000084","seq":778,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-27T05:57:21.505Z","text":"南区没上传，它们怎么知道？难道有探子在群里随时汇报情况？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1e5f88c5e4f52434e659","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":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