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公开狱中通讯 这一点 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没有第三方 老郭就准备死在监狱里了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7b23c096b9a7a2508fa7","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q230f832f7b2c149e0847","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q81d84d28be0466d62b50","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":36,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T21:03:31.487Z","text":"郭真的是全方位被绞杀","edited":false,"reply_to":"q230f832f7b2c149e0847","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81d84d28be0466d62b50","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q230f832f7b2c149e0847","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q9fb70018bc73af0fb49c","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":37,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-02-27T21:04:27.922Z","text":"还是那句话 不知道在等什么 不像他的作风吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q230f832f7b2c149e0847","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9fb70018bc73af0fb49c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q230f832f7b2c149e0847","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q9d64b54a60ca37bc9ab6","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":38,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T21:04:34.856Z","text":"这种多方联合绞杀陷害的剧本，电视上都没演过吧😆","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d64b54a60ca37bc9ab6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q44350b164dc83dce75d5","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":39,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T21:05:04.442Z","text":"以后可以拍几部电视剧了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44350b164dc83dce75d5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qdcf34804a5b1b373b566","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":40,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2026-02-27T21:05:42.076Z","text":"808第二页第二段第3行到第5行，大意：“政府申请撤销向非当事人发出的传票，还引用案例，说明在 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真的准备坐牢了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53b721ae011898e0bd67","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qca51726b645c44e4a347","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":43,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-02-27T21:06:54.417Z","text":"为啥如此[删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca51726b645c44e4a347","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qb8d81879b2e962cc1c78","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":44,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T21:07:05.955Z","text":"管他为什么[删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb8d81879b2e962cc1c78","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qa58cee3bd9dda169aa20","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":45,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-02-27T21:07:39.331Z","text":"他要躺平 我就算了  好好搬砖养家了 天天被恶心的 很烦了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa58cee3bd9dda169aa20","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q89999f3f77c0cfa30bd7","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":46,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T21:07:44.228Z","text":"郭估计是想把联盟带进牢里","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q89999f3f77c0cfa30bd7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q30ac95e554c2da696193","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":47,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-02-27T21:08:08.213Z","text":"每天被联盟恶心的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30ac95e554c2da696193","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q3f29b0048ee372e8dc9f","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":48,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T21:08:13.045Z","text":"那你也[删节：成员身份]吧","edited":true,"reply_to":"qa58cee3bd9dda169aa20","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f29b0048ee372e8dc9f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa58cee3bd9dda169aa20","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q41c45009bc8449697a4f","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":49,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-02-27T21:08:14.203Z","text":"想吐","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41c45009bc8449697a4f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q7852b08a0a520c8fe6d9","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":50,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-02-27T21:08:27.522Z","text":"我想躺就躺 你管那么多","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7852b08a0a520c8fe6d9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q4ee9902584719e9ced4e","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":51,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2026-02-27T21:08:37.828Z","text":"脑洞一下，也许老郭一直在等检方要求公开传票🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ee9902584719e9ced4e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qdc48dea7aa2e55c2a430","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":52,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T21:08:40.857Z","text":"对啊，我支持你[删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":"q7852b08a0a520c8fe6d9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc48dea7aa2e55c2a430","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7852b08a0a520c8fe6d9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qb1e560ba59fa44d4b7ea","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":53,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-02-27T21:08:45.217Z","text":"观察者 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律师没有","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q774421c168c1d479f9b3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q6cc7b3e8b3cb88e2cca1","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":92,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-27T22:04:46.302Z","text":"律师是不是低于行业标准？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6cc7b3e8b3cb88e2cca1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qb86513a5a78e2be4b4cf","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":93,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-27T22:04:48.403Z","text":"无效辩护？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb86513a5a78e2be4b4cf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q0e3f85ec0a7ea3ccf44a","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":94,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-27T22:08:43.571Z","text":"https://x.com/Testurheart/status/2027506140410487130?s=20","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e3f85ec0a7ea3ccf44a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q12ae169042d800613959","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":95,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-02-27T22:11:25.376Z","text":"https://x.com/Testurheart/status/2027506140410487130?s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12ae169042d800613959","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qce82c0a47d1217678c72","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":96,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T22:21:03.321Z","text":"另外值得注意的就是文件809，检方说853n也是受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce82c0a47d1217678c72","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qba78cf9f223e6478707c","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":97,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-27T22:23:18.237Z","text":"哪句？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba78cf9f223e6478707c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q3aee8b28b731c5d0379f","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":98,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-02-27T22:25:04.130Z","text":"也就是说 没有所谓的受害人 😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb8003bf8fc9a9950e1c2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3aee8b28b731c5d0379f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb8003bf8fc9a9950e1c2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qc54fd4dc00e77ddb6565","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":99,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-27T22:30:18.429Z","text":"身份全乱套了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3aee8b28b731c5d0379f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc54fd4dc00e77ddb6565","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3aee8b28b731c5d0379f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q20af440b4be9b7a691ac","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":100,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-02-27T23:04:51.618Z","text":"哪位在引导","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7c617052a8266c3dda3c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20af440b4be9b7a691ac","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c617052a8266c3dda3c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qf66fe121f57647d70e67","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":101,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-27T23:11:55.108Z","text":"不过检方现在把联盟的雷引爆也是好事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf66fe121f57647d70e67","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qc693dc624930c616fb31","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":102,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-27T23:12:04.487Z","text":"现在引爆 总比上诉引爆好","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc693dc624930c616fb31","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qd249d1f041aedee889de","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":103,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T23:13:00.704Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]在 ECF 809 中，检察官确实暗示 § 853(n) 申请人属于他们所称的“受害者”群体的一部分，但这种表述是间接的、修辞性的，而不是正式的法律认定。\n一、关键表述出现在 ECF 809\n检方写道：\n“对于已经站出来的少数个人——无论是合作证人、§ 853(n) 申请人，还是返还申请人——这些反复的拖延并不是抽象的程序问题。” \n这句话把以下几类人放在同一组：\n合作证人\n§ 853(n) 申请人\nremission（司法部返还程序）申请人\n然后紧接着把他们描述为正在遭受拖延伤害的人群，即“受害者”。 \n二、这在法律上意味着什么\n这种写法说明：\n检方在量刑背景下，\n把 § 853(n) 申请人纳入他们所称的受害人整体范围中进行描述。\n但必须注意：\n这只是：\n一种论证性语言\n用于反对延迟量刑\n而不是：\n法院作出的法律认定\n或正式裁定所有 § 853(n) 申请人都是受害者\n三、检方在 ECF 809 其他地方也使用广义“受害者”概念\n例如他们写道：\n“继续等待正义的欺诈受害者。”\n以及：\n“所有被告的受害者应得到量刑的最终确定。” \n这些都是广义统称。\n四、重要法律区别：§ 853(n) 申请人并不自动等于受害者\n根据美国没收法律：\n§ 853(n) 申请人法律身份是：\n第三方财产权主张人\n而不是自动成为：\n刑事案件受害者\n他们可能是：\n财产所有人\n善意购买人\n债权人\n有些可能是受害者，\n有些可能不是。\nECF 809 的表述并没有改变这一法律区分。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd249d1f041aedee889de","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qe84e5364014cad4da3a3","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":104,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-27T23:22:09.932Z","text":"810","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe84e5364014cad4da3a3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q29f3ba162a8681933ba0","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":105,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-27T23:22:17.238Z","text":"老郭律师欺诈法庭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29f3ba162a8681933ba0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q58d2e7ba2e61e14cad2c","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":106,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-27T23:25:07.823Z","text":"律师就是不提自诉动议，明知对翻案有大用","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58d2e7ba2e61e14cad2c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q1337d8273fa149874ee7","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":107,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-27T23:26:08.050Z","text":"因为不想得罪政府和法庭？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1337d8273fa149874ee7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q3ccf6c8eaa8192ae44f1","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":108,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T23:26:42.657Z","text":"810\nDOAR RIECK KALEY & MACK 律师事务所\n纽约百老汇 217号 7楼\n纽约，NY 10007\n2026年2月27日\n通过 ECF 提交\n尊敬的 Analisa Torres 法官：\n事由：美国诉郭文贵（Miles Guo）\n案号：S3 23 Cr. 118 (AT)\n尊敬的法官：\n我们已被指定在上述案件中代表郭文贵先生。\n我们现简要回复政府的来信（ECF 809），该信反对我们提出的将郭先生量刑延期 30 天的请求（ECF 807），以及政府要求披露 Rule 17(c) 传票申请的请求（ECF 808）。为简明起见，我们逐项回应如下：\n第一部分：关于 Rule 17(c) 传票\n首先，我们并未像政府所声称的那样，抱怨法院审议我们 Rule 17(c) 传票申请所花费的时间过长。\n虽然政府如此描述，但这绝非我们的立场。\n我们并不冒昧评论法院繁忙的案件安排。\n此外，本 Rule 17(c) 传票寻求的是某些事项的直接证据，这些证据对于向法院完整呈现郭先生的历史和个人特征具有重要意义。\n政府试图限制辩护律师获取这些证据的能力，令人感到意外。\n第二部分：关于政府要求披露秘密传票申请（ECF 808）\n关于政府要求披露我们秘密提交的 Rule 17(c) 传票申请，\n我们认为：\n目前没有理由向政府提供该申请副本。\n传票所寻求的保密信息和文件的必要性，\n从传票本身及我们向法院秘密提交的材料中已经很清楚。\n此外，\n鉴于传票内容以及所要求的具体信息和文件，\n我们认为政府没有合法利益介入并试图撤销该传票。\n第三部分：关于投资者和支持者来信问题\n第二，\n辩护律师或郭先生并没有任何“操控”行为，\n针对以下事实：\n在过去一个月，\n许多投资者和支持者持续向辩护律师发送信件：\n这些信件：\n表达对郭先生的支持\n声明他们不是受害者\n根据 § 853(n) 主张权利\n提供与量刑相关的材料\n辩护律师认为，\n这些通信增加的原因，\n是由于：\n2026年1月20日的听证会，\n以及随后双方提交的关于 § 853(n) 问题的文件。\n第四部分：否认“钓鱼调查”和无效辩护指控\n最后，\n针对政府所谓：\n辩护律师正在进行“钓鱼式调查”\n或威胁提出无效辩护主张，\n我们向法院保证：\n我们没有这样做。\n我们认为，\n我们正在履行作为辩护律师的职责和义务。\n结尾\n感谢法院考虑本信内容以及我们此前提交的文件。\n此致敬礼\n签名：\nJohn F. Kaley\nJoshua L. Dratel\nMelinda Sarafa","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ccf6c8eaa8192ae44f1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q1dc6a5bb21e17e254079","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":109,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-27T23:27:21.702Z","text":"明明是青藤操控的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1dc6a5bb21e17e254079","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qf712da39f34d2b52a575","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":110,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T23:27:24.297Z","text":"他们说通信增加是因为1月20日会议","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf712da39f34d2b52a575","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q2106d8be1d13327e6492","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":111,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T23:27:28.096Z","text":"我靠","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2106d8be1d13327e6492","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q052f2f5a039c392545d3","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":112,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-27T23:28:54.704Z","text":"都跟联盟一起直播了，还不知道咋回事？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q052f2f5a039c392545d3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q730bb8d870d34b2f3f06","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":113,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T23:28:56.586Z","text":"辩方怎么回复这么快","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q730bb8d870d34b2f3f06","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q40dfd64993046b721055","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":114,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T23:29:07.919Z","text":"辩方加班啊？不正常","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40dfd64993046b721055","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q06310fbd2cd794908cc9","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":115,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-27T23:29:22.853Z","text":"加班写动议？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06310fbd2cd794908cc9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q1d9339e7b9ac572d554a","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":116,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T23:29:32.329Z","text":"非常奇怪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d9339e7b9ac572d554a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qcda8b88788cd05acc324","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":117,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-27T23:29:36.169Z","text":"关键也没说啥重要的东西啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcda8b88788cd05acc324","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q4cb96d870e660dcc1328","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":118,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T23:29:37.223Z","text":"速度太快了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4cb96d870e660dcc1328","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qfa8c7ea2a63a800a5f4e","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":119,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-27T23:29:38.431Z","text":"我倒是觉得加班没什么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa8c7ea2a63a800a5f4e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q1ffd346321a23fc4f609","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":120,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-27T23:29:42.964Z","text":"但是最重要的是","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ffd346321a23fc4f609","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qd8aa724646f0dde2d202","batch_id":"batch-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摸摸币你还是赚的😅","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3acc3b23ca26cf97824f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc590fd37f91d5b7334db","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3acc3b23ca26cf97824f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q3dfaf65b6480c5214f40","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":150,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T23:50:21.342Z","text":"不是吧。我觉得辩方律师现在还是认为郭和联盟是一伙的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q53182b4dbc005c77a3e1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3dfaf65b6480c5214f40","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53182b4dbc005c77a3e1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qda86ca6c35bb3f26cbca","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":151,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-27T23:50:51.067Z","text":"自己律师都被收买 还玩个鸡巴","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda86ca6c35bb3f26cbca","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qab2141422dfc85adcada","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":152,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-27T23:51:12.073Z","text":"所以辩方律师是被联盟控制？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf712da39f34d2b52a575","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab2141422dfc85adcada","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf712da39f34d2b52a575","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qdc97c365ea5463b2f74a","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":153,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T23:51:15.031Z","text":"喂喂喂，没有证据，辩方律师被收买吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"qda86ca6c35bb3f26cbca","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc97c365ea5463b2f74a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda86ca6c35bb3f26cbca","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q9fafb1dd28c05984e607","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":154,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-27T23:51:20.011Z","text":"那他妈也太蠢了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3dfaf65b6480c5214f40","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9fafb1dd28c05984e607","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3dfaf65b6480c5214f40","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qe51c02740ca0759ef405","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":155,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-27T23:51:20.877Z","text":"靠郭那张嘴 能翻案？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe51c02740ca0759ef405","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qcc2242a8fb5be7f27301","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":156,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T23:51:23.549Z","text":"你有证据吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc2242a8fb5be7f27301","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q239238431c61534eb51b","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":157,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-02-27T23:51:52.420Z","text":"政府指定的 律师 公益的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qda86ca6c35bb3f26cbca","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q239238431c61534eb51b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda86ca6c35bb3f26cbca","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qdc617a57ed58f29adb7e","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":158,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-27T23:52:11.949Z","text":"免费的能有水平？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc617a57ed58f29adb7e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qb3ed42829f6feb36fceb","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":159,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T23:52:15.280Z","text":"可能自诉文件还没说透，郭和联盟不是一伙的，辩方律师还没搞清楚","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb3ed42829f6feb36fceb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q3a7a688b2364f4b0c1b2","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":160,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-02-27T23:52:51.662Z","text":"给七哥凑律师费 [屏蔽词]们骗了好几波","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a7a688b2364f4b0c1b2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q489099d54961560450e4","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":161,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-27T23:54:29.559Z","text":"路上车这么多 喜国总统说的倒闭失业呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q489099d54961560450e4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qb18367619d1d1cf51541","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":162,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T23:54:29.591Z","text":"说实话，这个郭和联盟不是一伙的这件事, 真的不好说。现在法庭的逻辑是，郭和联盟一伙的，联盟听郭的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb18367619d1d1cf51541","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q3bd18a5f6000070a5b9b","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":163,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-27T23:55:01.881Z","text":"随便一个路人看直播视频 都知道是一伙的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb18367619d1d1cf51541","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3bd18a5f6000070a5b9b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb18367619d1d1cf51541","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q8858edf53e1462f85cf1","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":164,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-27T23:55:18.583Z","text":"我觉得你这句话和螺丝哥在介入案件前有同样的误区","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb3ed42829f6feb36fceb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8858edf53e1462f85cf1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb3ed42829f6feb36fceb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q7d50582059e22ae7be96","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":165,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T23:55:26.657Z","text":"中共千秋万代","edited":false,"reply_to":"q489099d54961560450e4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d50582059e22ae7be96","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q489099d54961560450e4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q658b8a80004174957482","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":166,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-27T23:55:27.511Z","text":"把人想的太善良","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q658b8a80004174957482","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qe8466ae4ca6e58182734","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":167,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-27T23:56:04.733Z","text":"你如果不是喜国人 你看喜国视频 你第一反应难道喜国总统和联盟不是一伙的？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe8466ae4ca6e58182734","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q434176739b14ebe668ad","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":168,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T23:56:06.308Z","text":"我和螺丝哥都是把人往好处想","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q434176739b14ebe668ad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q1b4e29d43d3a84ee17e2","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":169,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-27T23:56:23.097Z","text":"https://x.com/Testurheart/status/2027533269982466452","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b4e29d43d3a84ee17e2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qdce155c694090375c847","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":170,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-27T23:56:37.773Z","text":"事实已经证明 至少在这个案件中  这个思路不太行","edited":false,"reply_to":"q434176739b14ebe668ad","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdce155c694090375c847","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q434176739b14ebe668ad","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q20403f782a4ca1127607","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":171,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T23:56:47.534Z","text":"事实是，联盟不听郭的，郭说让他们不要抗议luc，联盟听了吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe8466ae4ca6e58182734","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20403f782a4ca1127607","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe8466ae4ca6e58182734","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qc36ff3cbfe45df54501c","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":172,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-02-27T23:56:53.383Z","text":"不断的往外的电话 相信是真的 和相信是假的 可能都是自我麻醉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc36ff3cbfe45df54501c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q6d13a2c9b2fa0b2a6fcf","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":173,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-27T23:57:04.222Z","text":"你和谁讲事实去","edited":false,"reply_to":"q20403f782a4ca1127607","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d13a2c9b2fa0b2a6fcf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20403f782a4ca1127607","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qcc77e5e0c748e7a1361f","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":174,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-27T23:57:23.198Z","text":"你投资的时候 自己都认为联盟代表郭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc77e5e0c748e7a1361f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qb9ca3f124624226b6a9a","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":175,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T23:57:25.635Z","text":"另外郭是不是打电话出来操控联盟，检方不知道吗，检方公布电话不就完了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9ca3f124624226b6a9a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q7fbb93dc8127c30ef598","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":176,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-27T23:57:36.386Z","text":"你还想改变路人的想法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fbb93dc8127c30ef598","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qc8f0474d1f618ee4373f","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":177,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T23:58:42.746Z","text":"这世界上，谁能改变谁","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8f0474d1f618ee4373f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qf2b0ba5c18c7e7aa549f","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":178,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T23:58:53.295Z","text":"我有那能耐吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2b0ba5c18c7e7aa549f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q5f7f2ca04f4263415a45","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":179,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-02-27T23:58:59.696Z","text":"相信联盟 相信长岛哥 一切相信联盟的 反联盟就是反爆料革命","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f7f2ca04f4263415a45","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q0d613b933eb5e60b06e2","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":180,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-02-27T23:59:11.593Z","text":"一次次背书 搭进去多少炮灰","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d613b933eb5e60b06e2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q1731afbb81fd2bccfb38","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":181,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-27T23:59:13.384Z","text":"瑞恩的二巡已经把联盟干坏事提交上去了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb7684328191613d6412d","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1731afbb81fd2bccfb38","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qf76f8bcd44d00b86a884","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":182,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-27T23:59:34.244Z","text":"你都不听我的，我还想改变别人啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7fbb93dc8127c30ef598","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf76f8bcd44d00b86a884","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fbb93dc8127c30ef598","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qcd88dfc380267db01145","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":183,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-02-28T00:00:15.012Z","text":"没办法 革命总需要炮灰","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd88dfc380267db01145","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qffa970606d96e618adf3","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":184,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-28T00:00:43.682Z","text":"你最近，有向[删节：成员身份]同学靠拢的迹象啊","edited":true,"reply_to":"qcd88dfc380267db01145","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qffa970606d96e618adf3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd88dfc380267db01145","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qf544ec573e8d7ac0a5c7","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":185,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-02-28T00:01:26.848Z","text":"干坏事是给郭加罪，这还能是一伙吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa4120087464d4ee5a0b3","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf544ec573e8d7ac0a5c7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q92c890ce7a909e63c010","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":186,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-02-28T00:02:40.580Z","text":"经历过 不像你不搭啥不赔啥的 用挽救华人形象为使命  用爱在发电","edited":false,"reply_to":"qffa970606d96e618adf3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q92c890ce7a909e63c010","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qffa970606d96e618adf3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q673a05447b2a16c08401","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":187,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-28T00:02:45.030Z","text":"这么说，我们就是太善良了😆","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd25a955c520860b47f5a","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q673a05447b2a16c08401","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"qfa906ef7a03586f40257","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":188,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-28T00:08:50.656Z","text":"真善还要狠","edited":false,"reply_to":"q673a05447b2a16c08401","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa906ef7a03586f40257","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q673a05447b2a16c08401","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q9205791f9136acfcfb46","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":189,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-02-28T00:09:35.024Z","text":"多久出炉啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf41d37606f378cdca4e9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9205791f9136acfcfb46","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf41d37606f378cdca4e9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q3123bc37c85a1790bf0e","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":190,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-28T00:14:17.707Z","text":"马上","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9205791f9136acfcfb46","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3123bc37c85a1790bf0e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9205791f9136acfcfb46","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q7fa030a4fea82295d209","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":191,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-28T00:14:28.807Z","text":"她太不重要了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q62a2ee34424b7b8fd6bc","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fa030a4fea82295d209","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q23e4cf323927c65af4cf","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":192,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-28T00:15:14.043Z","text":"她是假郭美","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7fa030a4fea82295d209","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23e4cf323927c65af4cf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fa030a4fea82295d209","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q0cf051c83ef0e958833c","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":193,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-28T00:18:09.939Z","text":"没证据啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q23e4cf323927c65af4cf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0cf051c83ef0e958833c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23e4cf323927c65af4cf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q4f8b2cc7d76e0150375d","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":194,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-28T00:18:13.513Z","text":"有证据直接干","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f8b2cc7d76e0150375d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q05d9e2ccc3379afc6185","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":195,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-28T00:18:26.442Z","text":"说了 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捐款被骗的份儿","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37f45ccc9515d1bfeaf2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q12248ba7b82e3bc20965","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":198,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-02-28T00:23:31.984Z","text":"以前大根的直播，我每期都看，而且每次都跟下面的战友互动、打招呼。\n现在看来，它们都是网络员。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5562af7814abea9b1126","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12248ba7b82e3bc20965","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5562af7814abea9b1126","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q8451c76c5792d2e6027e","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":199,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-02-28T00:24:34.985Z","text":"真战友一个都不能去法庭","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0cf051c83ef0e958833c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8451c76c5792d2e6027e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0cf051c83ef0e958833c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"},{"id":"q9a53bfdb3226f98f6e94","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":200,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-02-28T00:25:01.027Z","text":"那本群的话语权 述事权 被垄断了吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q05d9e2ccc3379afc6185","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a53bfdb3226f98f6e94","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05d9e2ccc3379afc6185","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000084","next_batch_id":"batch-000086"}