{"id":"batch-000086","number":86,"revision":66,"date_start":"2026-03-02T03:54:02.052Z","date_end":"2026-03-05T02:21:03.966Z","total_messages":963,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 086 (Mar 2, 2026 – Mar 5, 2026), 963 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Discussions reflected persistent division across three main threads: characterizing the Alliance as a fraud tool, money laundering conduit, cult operation, or victim collective, alongside uncertain liability boundaries for GTV, ROL, and 300 members; procedural disputes over judge letters, declaration motions, docketing, CVRA, Second Circuit filings, and mandamus mechanisms; and asset recovery uncertainty under the MVRA, 21 U.S.C. § 853(n), restitution, and forfeiture remission. Participants also challenged witness credibility, attorney representation, and AI materials, urging primary verifiable evidence over speculative narratives.","guide_en":[{"title":"Core Disagreement: Shifting from Fraud and Misrepresentation to Obstruction of Justice and Organizational Control","description":"Participants debate whether the primary legal exposure centers on judicial interference rather than fraud or misrepresentation.","message_ids":["q604c119f9b09deb9c460","q5442d2a36c400f2d0735","q3b1b3cfdb20696f76ef1"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q604c119f9b09deb9c460","summary_en":"kir*** contends that Qing's fatal vulnerability before Judge Torres is neither fraud nor misrepresentation."},{"message_id":"q5442d2a36c400f2d0735","summary_en":"kir*** argues that the critical vulnerability is interference with the administration of justice."},{"message_id":"q3b1b3cfdb20696f76ef1","summary_en":"kir*** argues that Qing's fraudulent conduct can only be substantiated if grounded in judicial interference."}]},{"title":"Liability Chain and Conspiracy Boundaries: Imputing Criminal Liability and Alter Ego Claims for GTV, ROL, and LUC","description":"Participants discuss whether criminal liability can be transferred across entities like GTV and the Rule of Law Foundation under alter ego theories.","message_ids":["q9f88c5fb1536e7093314","qa690f8b98ce9290c26c3","q75d3e0cdcf4d6241e2cf"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q9f88c5fb1536e7093314","summary_en":"kir*** contends that participants lack recorded names within the United States judicial system."},{"message_id":"qa690f8b98ce9290c26c3","summary_en":"kir*** asserts that this distinction is merely basic political common sense."},{"message_id":"q75d3e0cdcf4d6241e2cf","summary_en":"joh*** contends that court support would only be possible if GTV was reported and prosecuted for criminal fraud."}]},{"title":"Dispute Over Alliance Membership: Whether the Over 300 Members Are Accomplices, Victims, or Instruments","description":"Participants 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counsel.","message_ids":["qfbe2e45867e73b5a6cfe","qf727ad5677c58447e721","q3d128cc0be2687e47cff"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qfbe2e45867e73b5a6cfe","summary_en":"reb*** argues that while co-conspirators might not be compelled, defense counsel erred by failing to subpoena them to preserve a record of any denial by Judge Torres."},{"message_id":"qf727ad5677c58447e721","summary_en":"ntp*** questions why an individual who recently urged viewers on a livestream to submit evidence is suddenly being attacked."},{"message_id":"q3d128cc0be2687e47cff","summary_en":"him*** recalls claims from the Alliance, Ava, and Qing Teng that defense counsel offered inadequate representation out of fear of retaliation from the Biden administration."}]},{"title":"Evidentiary Tracing: Using Exhibit 803 Attachment 1 and Payment Structures to Trace Farms, Signatories, and Upstream Funds","description":"Participants discuss using prosecution exhibit 803 Attachment 1 to trace fund flows and determine liability among 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目前我还没看到它被并入 tandem order，但它的主题与前四份高度一致：\nproper submission + nondocketing + no reviewable order，只是多了一个 Curcio/conflict 切口。 \n\n所以从战略上说，26-441 不是“另起炉灶”，而是在给前面四份再加一个独立印证点。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e74b608ac918a6c03c7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q4450ee88765d4cb6b674","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":413,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-02T22:47:25.981Z","text":"她引用了前面5个强制令","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3e74b608ac918a6c03c7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4450ee88765d4cb6b674","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e74b608ac918a6c03c7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q358ac1b2f811f5fda425","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":414,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-02T22:48:00.783Z","text":"他提到了律师身份冲突，还有联盟使坏","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3e74b608ac918a6c03c7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q358ac1b2f811f5fda425","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e74b608ac918a6c03c7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q3744480a2ca7b68152a9","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":415,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-02T22:48:23.141Z","text":"具体咋说的 我现在看不了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q358ac1b2f811f5fda425","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3744480a2ca7b68152a9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q358ac1b2f811f5fda425","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qeb16bbbb7350cb0de1f9","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":416,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-02T22:48:28.626Z","text":"律师冲突","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb16bbbb7350cb0de1f9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q9a975b954ed498e92e4d","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":417,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-02T22:49:56.879Z","text":"gavenman","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a975b954ed498e92e4d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q440218c0f489b3e45efc","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":418,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-02T22:50:29.101Z","text":"我这信里两个爆点被剧透了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q440218c0f489b3e45efc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q4ca174f08dc9accaf183","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":419,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-02T22:56:43.019Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 你怎么看","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ca174f08dc9accaf183","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q27d0d611572f52405bbc","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":420,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-03-02T22:57:39.403Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 我让你帮忙机器人生成的那个联盟农场的报告，我回头稍作修改，核实一下文件。可以发给二巡。让我自己写，我真写不出来。大概意思我能说几句，写成文章，我是一句也写不出来","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27d0d611572f52405bbc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qc63145819c2a5744540e","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":421,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-02T22:59:14.235Z","text":"Curcio-type conflict 是指在刑事案件中，法院发现或被提醒存在潜在或实际律师利益冲突时，必须依照 United States v. Curcio 的原则，进行在案记录上的冲突审查（on-the-record inquiry）。\n这个概念主要适用于第二巡回法院辖区（包括纽约南区）。\n一、什么是“利益冲突”？\n在刑事案件中，律师的职责是完全忠诚地代表自己的当事人。\n如果律师的利益或其他客户的利益与当前当事人发生冲突，就可能出现问题。\n常见情形包括：\n1️⃣ 同一律师代表多个当事人\n例如：\n同时代表两个被告\n同时代表被告与证人\n同时代表被告与第三方财产主张人（如 853(n) 申请人）\n2️⃣ 连续代表（successive representation）\n律师曾代表某一方，现在又代表与其利益相冲突的另一方。\n3️⃣ 经济或策略性冲突\n例如：\n律师可能因其他客户的利益而限制当前客户的辩护策略\n律师在 forfeiture 问题上立场与被告存在潜在对立\n二、为什么叫“Curcio-type”？\n在 United States v. Curcio 一案中，第二巡回法院确立规则：\n一旦法院知道存在潜在冲突，法院有独立义务进行调查。\n这意味着：\n不需要被告主动提出\n不需要当事人抗议\n法院不能忽视\n三、Curcio 听证的目的\n法院必须：\n解释冲突的性质\n询问是否为实际冲突还是潜在冲突\n确认当事人是否知情并自愿放弃（waiver）\n判断是否即便有放弃也不允许继续代理\n四、重要延伸判例\nWheat v. United States\n最高法院确认：\n法院有“独立机构性责任”维护司法程序完整性\n即使被告愿意放弃冲突，法院仍可拒绝该律师继续代理\n换句话说：\n放弃冲突 ≠ 自动允许继续代理\n五、在 forfeiture / 853(n) 场景中的常见冲突\n在资产没收案件中，可能出现：\n律师同时代表第三方财产主张人和刑事被告\n律师既代表 alleged co-conspirator 相关实体，又代表被告\n律师在财产归属问题上与被告利益不完全一致\n这种情况下可能影响：\n资产归属判断\n诉讼策略\n证据呈现\nplea 或 forfeiture 谈判\n六、为什么“未 docket”会影响 Curcio 问题？\n如果提出冲突问题的动议没有被登记：\n法院形式上“未被 apprised”\n无法触发 Curcio 调查义务\n记录中没有冲突审查\n可能影响上诉\n七、简化理解\nCurcio-type conflict 本质是：\n“律师可能无法对当事人保持完全忠诚”\n而法院必须主动调查并确保程序公正。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc63145819c2a5744540e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q5d95c41e08aa5da5855d","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":422,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-02T23:01:06.813Z","text":"gavenman这个更绝，原告被告第三方通吃","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc63145819c2a5744540e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d95c41e08aa5da5855d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc63145819c2a5744540e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q9442e213170fe386e6b8","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":423,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-03-02T23:20:16.534Z","text":"她这里有一句话说的特别好： 许多人不懂英文，一半都是通过中间人 收款 等\n把联盟领导层的角色说的不错\n\n还引用了733 \n\n对 数字银行 及喜交所的律师 同时代表 共谋犯 Ye 也讲的挺清楚","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2168a39bc544149d7ca0","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9442e213170fe386e6b8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q186672da982cfd478e18","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":424,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-03-02T23:21:25.078Z","text":"441 有几个新的点  - 她是这个群里的吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q186672da982cfd478e18","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q579dbe098100cae0a2d8","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":425,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-02T23:22:26.829Z","text":"要不怎么会立案呢","edited":false,"reply_to":"q186672da982cfd478e18","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q579dbe098100cae0a2d8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q186672da982cfd478e18","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qccbd83ae300cd093c476","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":426,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-03-02T23:27:43.098Z","text":"361 非常好， 再来个 策应的 这个案子就结束了！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qccbd83ae300cd093c476","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q1502005d351cb47da6f1","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":427,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-02T23:35:34.231Z","text":"报假案的到底是在担心什么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1502005d351cb47da6f1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q51f1ae2bf6855e75319e","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":428,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-03-02T23:37:19.573Z","text":"人在中国，共匪对他们或者家人迫害呗。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51f1ae2bf6855e75319e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q2d32d3cc1ab01fd1d9ca","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":429,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-02T23:38:27.867Z","text":"自诉的都出来好几个了，他们怕啥，匿名就好了，除非南区把他们卖给中共，这个可能性也不大","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d32d3cc1ab01fd1d9ca","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qaba2925a1b1892b6c5c0","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":430,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-03-02T23:44:19.114Z","text":"共匪现在不敢弄螺丝是因为您已经在法庭记录里了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaba2925a1b1892b6c5c0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q4ef9f5467f73e049358c","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":431,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-03T00:43:22.785Z","text":"只要弄 就是境外势力干涉美国司法","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaba2925a1b1892b6c5c0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ef9f5467f73e049358c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaba2925a1b1892b6c5c0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qa13c153caa557b351499","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":432,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-03T00:43:39.804Z","text":"谁弄 谁背锅","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa13c153caa557b351499","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q63354105a836f0707719","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":433,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-03T00:43:57.776Z","text":"现在国内为什么都不敢抓爆料革命了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63354105a836f0707719","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qb06f7c9b98dd5acc9bc0","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":434,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-03T00:44:05.152Z","text":"黄河边也说了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb06f7c9b98dd5acc9bc0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qf86d06b0a67710755e5f","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":435,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-03T00:44:21.283Z","text":"因为共产党知道被老郭设了一个天局","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf86d06b0a67710755e5f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q3bd6d1b34d2778d39dca","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":436,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-03T00:44:29.211Z","text":"已经无可挽回了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3bd6d1b34d2778d39dca","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qc7704cc37c40d087a0d6","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":437,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-03T00:45:06.949Z","text":"需要一个白纸黑字假报案的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd863854362f8c3d609ed","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7704cc37c40d087a0d6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q4d55b700dec127c2de8f","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":438,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-03T00:49:32.848Z","text":"老郭玩的是真的吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d55b700dec127c2de8f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q05c38df3cfbd6fe024aa","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":439,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-03-03T01:08:22.373Z","text":"墙国刁民报案报的是sec,不是fbi ,可能没那么有力","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05c38df3cfbd6fe024aa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q0a95e2246a9ecab128bb","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":440,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-03T01:11:48.869Z","text":"sec设计主权身份冲突","edited":false,"reply_to":"q05c38df3cfbd6fe024aa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a95e2246a9ecab128bb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05c38df3cfbd6fe024aa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q540c0ac2f7306a6fc24e","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":441,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-03T01:12:05.690Z","text":"说明庭审根本没审核","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q540c0ac2f7306a6fc24e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qf4f6d4c04051581e0ba7","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":442,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-03-03T01:31:44.089Z","text":"如果有一个到法庭去说，转移投资者资金，抗议受托人，都是有组织的栽赃行为，再加上luc和南区分别在两个法庭司法欺诈，然后法庭也明显压制被告阵营，律师无效辩护，就把美国司法部和法律系统都是在执行猎狐这个论点说圆了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4f6d4c04051581e0ba7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qb44f0817518426987502","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":443,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-03-03T01:59:42.420Z","text":"咋回事？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6e0c51c8384ede2e2ebf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb44f0817518426987502","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e0c51c8384ede2e2ebf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qae62f51b9431a40146c6","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":444,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-03T04:18:46.751Z","text":"总感觉要牢底坐穿了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae62f51b9431a40146c6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q7b17cebbb9518a807c86","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":445,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-03-03T04:23:19.376Z","text":"441，结构精巧，言简意赅，把mandamus 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大概就这意思吧。让你的机器人加工一下。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b78770f185dd558b632","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qaf91ec47506bed6e6c7a","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":453,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-03-03T04:52:21.975Z","text":"郭文贵被陪审团裁定有罪之前，喜马拉雅农场联盟传递给投资者的信息，全部是积极正面的信息。并且在庭审之前，喜马拉雅农场联盟组织过很多填表签协议的甚至抗议的活动，投资者完全相信那些抗议或者填表签协议都是支持郭文贵的活动。\n\n直到郭文贵被陪审团裁定有罪之后，才开始有极少数投资者公开质疑喜马拉雅农场联盟之前操作的各种协议填表抗议等等活动，到底是支持郭文贵并且对郭文贵有利还是陷害郭文贵对郭文贵不利的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf91ec47506bed6e6c7a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q5c28eab2ee3fb2c7845a","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":454,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-03-03T04:53:45.676Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 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给加上， 他说： 对我客气点 我要是不同意 你们一分钱拿不到","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66e5da5d918493489a55","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qd4203189985031be8de3","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":463,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-03-03T05:37:51.637Z","text":"我把那个截图发在这个群了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4203189985031be8de3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q903fc537e33102f9a3bb","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":464,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-03T06:18:08.149Z","text":"🐦和粪青他们早就分工好的\nhttps://x.com/rosesong467794/status/1952474445437944207?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q903fc537e33102f9a3bb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q214a19205062cca7dfef","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":465,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-03T06:23:57.775Z","text":"第一句就把tony裹进主动联系政府的人里了，后面说啥都是烟雾弹了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6edeb064ff1686eedfd4","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q214a19205062cca7dfef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qb6f7d146ddb87ff8d4a2","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":466,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-03T06:27:23.929Z","text":"奥巴马能当美国总统就说明美国快完了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q70be7b3a4b7ad3a203f1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb6f7d146ddb87ff8d4a2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70be7b3a4b7ad3a203f1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q38123db55dd77ec213e1","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":467,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-03T06:31:45.553Z","text":"加上张永兵垄断去美国的政庇代理权，现在又以这个为理由要挟重要证人必须通过他提供证据","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5c28eab2ee3fb2c7845a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38123db55dd77ec213e1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c28eab2ee3fb2c7845a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q86da83cde9b813cf4fa5","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":468,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-03T06:44:35.547Z","text":"Sec管这个？找错衙门了吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q05c38df3cfbd6fe024aa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86da83cde9b813cf4fa5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05c38df3cfbd6fe024aa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qc559a29658e265da4ac3","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":469,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-03-03T06:55:54.269Z","text":"美国检方自己说过办这个案子有跟中国政府合作，就是中国政府给美国政府提供被告诈骗的证据，然后中国政府和司法系统同时说投资g系列是危害国家安全，然后tony捅出来后南区不上传，也给检方serve，检方还在继续推进量刑，二巡立案了，南区不上传立案记录，它们自己的行为，把它们就是在猎狐，给做实了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc559a29658e265da4ac3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qe3b7a97f54a834e1d5ca","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":470,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-03-03T06:58:57.190Z","text":"检方说过与中国政府合作啊？是不是谣传啊？检方不可能这样说啊！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3b7a97f54a834e1d5ca","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qcbaece1fd980ff0579ab","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":471,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-03-03T07:02:56.592Z","text":"刚庭审开始时，推特和盖特到处都是这些消息，也没看到质疑评论。难道法庭文件里，没有人看到？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe3b7a97f54a834e1d5ca","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcbaece1fd980ff0579ab","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3b7a97f54a834e1d5ca","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q816be12fc3d3ea6f514f","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":472,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-03-03T07:05:01.607Z","text":"印象中，检方这么说，是为了说，你被告不能用反共来诈骗，即使用反共来诈骗，中国政府的证据经过审查之后也可以用。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q816be12fc3d3ea6f514f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q0ed33322a9c68b3ae876","batch_id":"batc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[删节：隐私信息] 您能否用您的agent 核实一下？","edited":true,"reply_to":"q0ed33322a9c68b3ae876","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d3f05ecb3f7cd4f2d71","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ed33322a9c68b3ae876","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q9e768e84aceaa6971126","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":476,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-03T07:09:20.722Z","text":"那个是一个小报媒体的报道","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4d3f05ecb3f7cd4f2d71","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e768e84aceaa6971126","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d3f05ecb3f7cd4f2d71","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q50911288953ec78de247","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":477,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-03T07:09:27.431Z","text":"是帕克法官那个时候","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50911288953ec78de247","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qb97ee7f66771e4bc9c01","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":478,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-03T07:09:46.468Z","text":"也许说了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb97ee7f66771e4bc9c01","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qb082628af55ca1d759ce","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":479,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-03T07:09:51.586Z","text":"但在法庭文件里面没有","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb082628af55ca1d759ce","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qab94fb8b5fb372a4b935","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":480,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-03-03T07:12:01.773Z","text":"这个算不算检方合作","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab94fb8b5fb372a4b935","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q9d5618c42adef957a62d","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":481,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-03T07:12:16.797Z","text":"这个是破产案","edited":false,"reply_to":"qab94fb8b5fb372a4b935","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d5618c42adef957a62d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab94fb8b5fb372a4b935","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q43d2aa723caebabc508c","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":482,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-03T07:12:25.694Z","text":"是luc和中共合作","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43d2aa723caebabc508c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q7cd822afd39991ebf779","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":483,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-03T07:12:27.829Z","text":"这个没问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7cd822afd39991ebf779","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qf12d17990079cb04522d","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":484,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-03-03T07:12:39.784Z","text":"LUC可以和中共合作？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf12d17990079cb04522d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qc6919dabcff93ae61cc0","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":485,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-03T07:12:59.681Z","text":"如果是根据外交部的途径走","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf12d17990079cb04522d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6919dabcff93ae61cc0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf12d17990079cb04522d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q7f890cc46c43526aa53b","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":486,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-03T07:13:01.408Z","text":"问题不大","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f890cc46c43526aa53b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q046fce0ffb2b62764b8c","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":487,"speak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以前在墙内欠了钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae44923f464752783bd3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q1458cef3cf9506f3a069","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":491,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-03-03T08:00:03.762Z","text":"中共给美国司法部提供了对被告不利的证据（尽管目前只看到用于破产案），同时又在围剿g系列投资者，说投资g系列是危害国家安全，然后g系列又是被告的替代自我。这是中共在玩弄美国司法已经摆到明面来了。都是被告的案子，一个法庭让中共提供了证据，而这个法庭里的大量对被告不利的文件就应该全部无效。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1458cef3cf9506f3a069","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qfa20d0d327c5e4db0ff7","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":492,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-03T08:02:21.682Z","text":"不是已经把检方打趴了吗 等郭出来不就好了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa20d0d327c5e4db0ff7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qe75ecd53552100fcfea5","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":493,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-03T08:03:32.927Z","text":"https://x.com/rosesong467794/status/2017760469923316195?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe75ecd53552100fcfea5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q1e4e5286a85311ab2bd5","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":494,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-03-03T08:08:11.677Z","text":"你好像开始看懂了一点剧情。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe75ecd53552100fcfea5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e4e5286a85311ab2bd5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe75ecd53552100fcfea5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qf3178fd5c7d6513216e5","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":495,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-03-03T08:29:25.460Z","text":"眼里只盯着钱，想拿回钱。当然要对小岛子客气了！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3178fd5c7d6513216e5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qd624bc82431c1deb41a2","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":496,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-03-03T08:45:29.798Z","text":"破产法庭和政府的一个部门-政府受托人接受了pax的墙内债权，再加上破产文件4750的确认中美司法合作。这让南区狡辩不认中国政府和司法认定g系列投资危害中国国家安全的空间都没有了。这应该是从361开始，它们不再上传二巡立案记录的原因。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd624bc82431c1deb41a2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q34897c6a054094fec6b7","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":497,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-03-03T09:11:32.091Z","text":"好像南区和检方，甚至辩方都不在乎二巡，牛得很","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q34897c6a054094fec6b7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q56e5564535bb3f22326d","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":498,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-03-03T09:14:16.148Z","text":"是这样。美国人都说南区法院是司法部的延伸。也许它们只要南区判了就可以领钱。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q34897c6a054094fec6b7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56e5564535bb3f22326d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q34897c6a054094fec6b7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qd23c0b2c2a64ea97f1a2","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":499,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-03-03T09:14:51.271Z","text":"领取中共狗粮？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q56e5564535bb3f22326d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd23c0b2c2a64ea97f1a2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56e5564535bb3f22326d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qf962bdf398125b9b242a","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":500,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-03-03T09:15:07.314Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd23c0b2c2a64ea97f1a2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf962bdf398125b9b242a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd23c0b2c2a64ea97f1a2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qf0c9aa8cf146f7315dc5","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":501,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-03-03T09:16:30.844Z","text":"我想不通既然案子必须上诉才有机会翻盘，郭为什么一次次延，早点判，早点上诉不好吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0c9aa8cf146f7315dc5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qc3a91124ef57875ec674","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":502,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-03-03T09:16:51.787Z","text":"那不是他的意志","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf0c9aa8cf146f7315dc5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc3a91124ef57875ec674","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0c9aa8cf146f7315dc5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qcdb066cbbad6579289de","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":503,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-03T10:10:09.846Z","text":"瑞恩说钓鱼","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf0c9aa8cf146f7315dc5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcdb066cbbad6579289de","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0c9aa8cf146f7315dc5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qb24b78a799eae3e329d6","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":504,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-03-03T10:10:35.456Z","text":"我是鱼饵🫣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb24b78a799eae3e329d6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q17b56eafb7c75173c731","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":505,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-03-03T10:21:39.593Z","text":"直接证据：没有。 法庭文件中没有检方与CCP直接合作或协调起诉郭文贵的明确证据。辩方律师（专业辩护团队）本身也明确拒绝提出此论点。\n\n间接暗示：存在但被密封。 最具暗示性的证据集中在CIPA机密信息中——涉及Witness-2与美国政府的互动、2018年8月会议录音、以及辩方要求识别的\"其他美国政府机构\"。这些内容被密封，公众无法知晓其具体性质。\n\n第三方指控：大量但未经验证。 多名pro se请愿人提出了检方不当行为和共谋指控，但这些指控尚未获得法庭的实质性审理或认定。\n\n检方的官方立场始终是：这是一起纯粹的经济犯罪案件，CCP问题与被告的欺诈行为\"毫无关系\"。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4d3f05ecb3f7cd4f2d71","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17b56eafb7c75173c731","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d3f05ecb3f7cd4f2d71","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q7ef5162267f8db8e731d","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":506,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-03T10:26:15.985Z","text":"检方不谈政治 青们 一直在扯这个\n给检方递刀子 把郭往死里坑","edited":false,"reply_to":"q17b56eafb7c75173c731","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7ef5162267f8db8e731d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17b56eafb7c75173c731","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qc1546e367ab51aa63124","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":507,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-03-03T10:30:16.334Z","text":"我发现现在X上很多人会问grok 来判断对错和真假，你们看grok一本正经地胡说八道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1546e367ab51aa63124","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q8b15fd9f1f2f8ed11fc5","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":508,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-03-03T10:30:47.467Z","text":"他说26-361被驳回","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b15fd9f1f2f8ed11fc5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qdc5b3b01ef91e002185b","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":509,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-03-03T10:32:08.837Z","text":"grok是我用的ai当中最爱幻想的ai。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc1546e367ab51aa63124","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc5b3b01ef91e002185b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1546e367ab51aa63124","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qd2be8e1f7793a782199c","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":510,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-03T10:32:09.359Z","text":"Grok比较蠢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2be8e1f7793a782199c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q6f886b264b362e34e3b0","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":511,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-03-03T10:43:17.600Z","text":"pax的债权证明用的是哪家中共银行的交易记录？是国有和国有控股银行的话，检方引用了pax在纽约最高法院起诉被告的文件，破产案也是pax的债权立的案，引用了那么多破产案文件，然后还说与ccp毫无关系，是不是虚假陈诉？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q55c973c0dbfae755de35","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f886b264b362e34e3b0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q31ce9bef7e0b7b52c155","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":512,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-03T11:56:32.042Z","text":"我得找一找直播 或者文件","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6f886b264b362e34e3b0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31ce9bef7e0b7b52c155","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f886b264b362e34e3b0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qa8568fd9b8383410623f","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":513,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-03-03T12:02:06.154Z","text":"https://x.com/Qiqi7877/status/2028792926541947163?s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8568fd9b8383410623f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q5631081e5e502b2b3fd7","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":514,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-03-03T12:21:01.792Z","text":"法庭文件确实显示PAX债权从源头到执行都深度嵌入中国国有银行体系和北京公安机关。检方一边引用PAX诉讼/破产案文件来构建\"欺诈动机\"叙事，一边主张CCP与案件\"毫无关系\"——这之间存在显著的逻辑张力。但是否构成法律意义上的\"虚假陈述\"（misrepresentation），需要证明检方明知这些联系且故意隐瞒，目前公开文件中没有这方面的直接证据。辩方虽然意识到这一矛盾，但选择了有限度地利用CCP迫害证据，而非直接挑战起诉动机","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6f886b264b362e34e3b0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5631081e5e502b2b3fd7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f886b264b362e34e3b0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q267353a57a440ea277f9","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":515,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-03-03T12:41:18.268Z","text":"好像是在庭审记录里","edited":false,"reply_to":"q816be12fc3d3ea6f514f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q267353a57a440ea277f9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q816be12fc3d3ea6f514f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q11bfb8d4fb53c1e8c0ba","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":516,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-03-03T12:43:45.389Z","text":"说的太对了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd624bc82431c1deb41a2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11bfb8d4fb53c1e8c0ba","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd624bc82431c1deb41a2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qb83936b195dcaa1ef03f","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":517,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-03T12:46:50.697Z","text":"413会不会牢底坐穿","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb83936b195dcaa1ef03f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qefe2b5ef5d7b21a582cd","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":518,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-03-03T12:50:02.078Z","text":"不管是哪个AI， 都只会机械的说一些事情； 要让AI说没有偏见/一面之词，需要对这个事情有真正的了解，用事实让AI承认，这样AI才会给出正确的答案","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc1546e367ab51aa63124","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qefe2b5ef5d7b21a582cd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1546e367ab51aa63124","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q602e72699d4a40896bc0","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":519,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-03-03T12:50:50.196Z","text":"我觉得Gemini 英文的， 最好用。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q602e72699d4a40896bc0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q5673b5fa2ef320b505f3","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":520,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-03-03T12:52:41.418Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]我上面给你的关键词，帮忙生成一下报告啊？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5673b5fa2ef320b505f3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q3b35a349f5e3a57a4e24","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":521,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-03-03T12:53:49.308Z","text":"这个太重要了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5631081e5e502b2b3fd7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b35a349f5e3a57a4e24","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5631081e5e502b2b3fd7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qfd7b1c7d7dff2ba24687","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":522,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-03-03T12:54:47.687Z","text":"看来361 Tony 可以把它写进法律文件； 或者那些报假案的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd7b1c7d7dff2ba24687","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qdbfa8f2fa7ea6135d17d","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":523,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-03-03T13:00:06.437Z","text":"最好的 agent是让几家最强模型打架 讨论  互相攻击 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啥关系？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc376f9c2dbb5c70d5e4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q0eaf339b6c2368b04a69","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":533,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-03T14:32:39.544Z","text":"比特币赢麻了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0eaf339b6c2368b04a69","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qbf0d4a0cc7fe753051b7","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":534,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-03T14:32:50.504Z","text":"拿比特币的都是赢家","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf0d4a0cc7fe753051b7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q91b49fb0cce571e7d33a","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":535,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-03T14:38:10.635Z","text":"Money 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https://youtu.be/OX9ehyuF4Gg?si=NnSSMXfhqiB5zF89 via @YouTube","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8402ebf32878fde17da","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q155cfa715bf5e581b291","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":540,"speaker":"tan***","date":"2026-03-03T16:06:43.824Z","text":"妈的，刚刚找到，也才学会如何使用AI，用大白话解读法律文件，刚刚上传的视频就是群里二巡的法律文件","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q155cfa715bf5e581b291","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q70b0ad19d8162b7356eb","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":541,"speaker":"tan***","date":"2026-03-03T16:08:42.747Z","text":"感谢提供编号分别是 26-361 和 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Sara","edited":false,"reply_to":"q95e7a2eaaa8bddaeff52","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdfe454f703d2a3df63ed","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95e7a2eaaa8bddaeff52","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qe626b91fbcdb0f3b43c6","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":552,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-03-03T16:30:29.923Z","text":"确实，三把火把人烧痛了，想起去年被唐齐二人忽悠瘸了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q78c5bca4f6325c1bf5ab","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe626b91fbcdb0f3b43c6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q2b4af664a296358999ee","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":553,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-03-03T16:31:01.845Z","text":"三把火是400潜伏者？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b4af664a296358999ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q2f530e0380640c6a7fd5","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":554,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-03T16:32:00.881Z","text":"不是","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2b4af664a296358999ee","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f530e0380640c6a7fd5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b4af664a296358999ee","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q1efbae1ae12da18d2f39","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":555,"speaker":"tan***","date":"2026-03-03T16:32:47.375Z","text":"SKILL拿去，不用谢，可以使用其他AI，看看生成的内容","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1efbae1ae12da18d2f39","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q772126de871d5bab553f","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":556,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-03-03T16:35:46.410Z","text":"https://x.com/socialwithaayan/status/2028715394933121310?s=20","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q772126de871d5bab553f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q4cd87fb40a34b02496a8","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":557,"speaker":"tan***","date":"2026-03-03T16:36:21.732Z","text":"今年不是火年吗？T卡运营团队和现有联盟必有一战，真金不怕火炼，没火的人就是好人吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4cd87fb40a34b02496a8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q4e1432daae9e8152d62a","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":558,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-03-03T16:37:43.216Z","text":"哇靠，你是T卡运营团队的？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e1432daae9e8152d62a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q99928aa3355844f54b56","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":559,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-03T16:38:01.071Z","text":"不着相 不扣帽子\n有技术贡献技术 群里多讨论 出点子","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4cd87fb40a34b02496a8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99928aa3355844f54b56","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4cd87fb40a34b02496a8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q5694c4f240d326dddb20","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":560,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-03-03T16:39:00.093Z","text":"三票？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5694c4f240d326dddb20","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q461adc0c5fd10a596f2d","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":561,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-03T16:40:54.891Z","text":"不 运营的技术组 应该也有隐情 被青抢了话语权 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要强","edited":true,"reply_to":"qa1e99c570968a1130ab0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q402a3ec97d8a09107323","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1e99c570968a1130ab0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q8f825f7a6eb5ae362ede","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":564,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-03-03T16:43:02.396Z","text":"都被骗光了没钱起诉！我是被诈骗光了才醒过来发现青藤集团是诈骗团伙的，所以看见你顶着三把火就有后遗症","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa1e99c570968a1130ab0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f825f7a6eb5ae362ede","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1e99c570968a1130ab0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q77feb760a4ea02032ff5","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":565,"speaker":"tan***","date":"2026-03-03T16:43:39.026Z","text":"今天的视频的大白话程度，字幕的布局，秒对齐和以往视频具有分水岭的作用，摸索了一个多月，特别有感觉，自己不做，根本就没有体会和这个感觉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77feb760a4ea02032ff5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q9a40eceef5fdeaa714e6","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":566,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-03T16:45:01.211Z","text":"你们t卡被骗的不要立新案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a40eceef5fdeaa714e6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qc059eb9665075edfb8d5","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":567,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-03T16:45:06.812Z","text":"那你多听听这里对视频的评价啊\n找重点 唤醒更多人 功德无量","edited":false,"reply_to":"q77feb760a4ea02032ff5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc059eb9665075edfb8d5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77feb760a4ea02032ff5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q44ddbd16a93dc7daeecb","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":568,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-03T16:45:12.155Z","text":"要去郭文贵刑事案发cvra动议","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44ddbd16a93dc7daeecb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qf0c806591ea07d31e62d","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":569,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-03T16:45:25.825Z","text":"要求检方公布所有探访 电话","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0c806591ea07d31e62d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q7fd0e3695cf13a661e8c","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":570,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-03T16:46:01.219Z","text":"如果这东西是郭文贵搞的 检方早就要求加刑100年了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fd0e3695cf13a661e8c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q1ae82188227eff56c449","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":571,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-03T16:47:15.784Z","text":"青 苍 费尽心机想栽赃给郭","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7fd0e3695cf13a661e8c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ae82188227eff56c449","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fd0e3695cf13a661e8c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q358a22e50076a6eb62f9","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":572,"speaker":"tan***","date":"2026-03-03T16:47:16.061Z","text":"你起诉了没有/有战友带头，我参与了T卡起诉，一切交给时间，战场在法庭，必须把手伸向战友的人推到法庭上","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8f825f7a6eb5ae362ede","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q358a22e50076a6eb62f9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f825f7a6eb5ae362ede","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q5285293b97a0a2c24970","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":573,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-03-03T16:47:43.050Z","text":"没有，我已经没钱起诉了，被周阅那一群骗子骗光了，他们拿着我的活命钱才添置了电子屏幕，给大骗小骗们每个月发工资","edited":false,"reply_to":"q358a22e50076a6eb62f9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5285293b97a0a2c24970","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q358a22e50076a6eb62f9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q90fc12e6ac2aba4e743c","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":574,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-03T16:47:47.532Z","text":"你去郭文贵刑事案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90fc12e6ac2aba4e743c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"qd7efab5e488d93c5edf4","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":575,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-03T16:47:52.245Z","text":"用cvra介入","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd7efab5e488d93c5edf4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q011343c1bec626db246e","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":576,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-03T16:47:58.309Z","text":"要求检方公布所有探访 电话","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q011343c1bec626db246e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000086"},{"id":"q352cd0d6d5d481f57dcc","batch_id":"batch-000086","seq":577,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-03T16:48:08.373Z","text":"不过可能 唐 威廉提前截胡 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