{"id":"batch-000087","number":87,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-03-05T02:24:03.222Z","date_end":"2026-03-08T18:14:43.610Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 087 (Mar 5, 2026 – Mar 8, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. From March 5, 2026 to March 8, 2026, the discussion focused on whether Guo-linked assets can still be forfeited and who controls criminal, civil, and third-party recovery after acquittals or prior judgments. Participants disputed the effect of GTV acquittal, Wang’s plea scope, and whether bankruptcy proceedings (including LUC recovery) could widen or limit enforcement. They also argued over alter-ego and leadership links between Guo and Wang, and whether RICO scope and the 484motion imply broader exposure. Community statements, not court findings.","guide_en":[{"title":"Dispute over forfeiture authority: who can push Guo-linked asset seizure and third-party boundaries","description":"Participants argued that prosecution-led forfeiture of Guo-linked assets is contested, especially over whether prosecutors have proper authority and whether Guo has effectively set an asset-disposition direction, while third-party roles remain disputed. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q1ad8228a15cffdb496cc","q93861508f8aa8aef25cf","q3d0d82360b36d01080f3"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q1ad8228a15cffdb496cc","summary_en":"A participant claimed the prosecution’s attempt to seize Guo-linked assets could be treated as ineffective once Guo objected. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q93861508f8aa8aef25cf","summary_en":"A participant argued that because investors had not publicly claimed ownership of funds earlier, the prosecutor lacked grounds to seize them and could not claim clear forfeiture authority. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q3d0d82360b36d01080f3","summary_en":"A participant claimed Guo had not publicly stated a position on asset disposition. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"After GTV acquittal, can seizure continue under fraud and remain procedurally valid","description":"Participants argued that GTV acquittal did not settle strategy, with some asserting prosecution can reframe recovery as fraud and others questioning whether that move is procedurally proper when extending liability to additional actors. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qbe60b14106772d521c49","q0bb78cf5fc4f7a4073eb","qf5474db6df2fea05a9b2"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qbe60b14106772d521c49","summary_en":"A participant asked how Wang’s plea might affect Guo’s bankruptcy case and claimed it could greatly expand Luc’s recovery scope. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q0bb78cf5fc4f7a4073eb","summary_en":"A participant argued that if GTV is acquitted, prosecutors could still push forfeiture under a fraud theory and include figures such as Mulan, Niao, and Wang Xuebing. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf5474db6df2fea05a9b2","summary_en":"A participant simply stated that GTV had been acquitted. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Wang plea scope, further superseding theories, and appeal rhythm","description":"Participants argued over Wang’s plea breadth, with one side claiming it was narrowly bounded while other comments suggested a preserved fallback for appeal and later strategic timing in added allegations. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q97b1c8d1ee9a77cc4358","q4a8e3f9bd5dbf6831d89","q68078c1a42fb88c81b4e"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q97b1c8d1ee9a77cc4358","summary_en":"A participant argued Wang may already be preparing for an appeal. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q4a8e3f9bd5dbf6831d89","summary_en":"A participant argued Wang’s 484 motion appeared intentional and aimed at communicating with Guo through their shared channel. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q68078c1a42fb88c81b4e","summary_en":"A participant contended Wang preserved an escape route despite pleading, staged participation by Qing and AVA for jury optics, and tied this to a top-tier ten-year outcome. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Bankruptcy and criminal dependency: documents and the LUC recovery chain","description":"Participants claimed bankruptcy and criminal tracks were mutually influential, contesting whether Luc recovery can act without a criminal anchor and arguing that wording like the ROL position affects seizure dynamics. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qfcf57e99b45cb1004146","qf693c74ca1d32f32f9d7","qf22365ed108102b8e168"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qfcf57e99b45cb1004146","summary_en":"A participant claimed that without a criminal case, Luc cannot move the Rule-of-Law Fund, and argued ROL is only a foundation, not a separate entity. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf693c74ca1d32f32f9d7","summary_en":"A participant argued arrests of key figures were followed by a more formal defendant pushback, framing the sequence as tactical. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf22365ed108102b8e168","summary_en":"A participant claimed the person in New Zealand would likely need stronger security. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Wang admitted two counts only? Negotiated plea and broader money-laundering allegations","description":"Participants argued that Wang’s two-count outcome was portrayed as a negotiated structure tied to cooperation, while other claims suggested broader fraud/laundering theories were deferred and could reappear depending on Guo-related results. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q3ad791b7a14bc4f11f19","qbc42abde02da4beda5f4","q9791f10b6798a4aea1fd"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q3ad791b7a14bc4f11f19","summary_en":"A participant argued Wang’s plea may have covered GTV laundering and related telecom-fraud counts with a ten-year result, then broader G-group money-laundering fraud allegations were paused while waiting for Guo’s outcome. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qbc42abde02da4beda5f4","summary_en":"A participant contended prosecutors brought multiple charges but, because Wang cooperated, only two were ultimately enforced with a ten-year term. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q9791f10b6798a4aea1fd","summary_en":"A participant argued this interpretation was the likely view. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Role characterization battle: hierarchy and alter-ego chain between Guo and Wang","description":"Participants argued over whether Guo and Wang formed a true command chain, with claims that informal control and long-term assistance create hierarchical responsibility even without formal titles. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q7400583c3e15c9a2ff1c","q6f6143e603f2d290e4a9","q7e1ca460df740e315461"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q7400583c3e15c9a2ff1c","summary_en":"A participant argued the defense had described Guo as the idea source for the G series and Wang as the executor. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q6f6143e603f2d290e4a9","summary_en":"A participant contended Guo’s defense counsel had argued very weakly. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q7e1ca460df740e315461","summary_en":"A participant argued U.S. law could still recognize an above-below legal relationship where Wang was a long-time assistant to Guo since Panggu, despite missing formal titles. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Asset movement risks: did Wang Xuebing and related people flee, transfer, or fortify","description":"Participants disputed whether asset protection signals reflected flight risk, transfer risk, or ordinary legal maneuvering, while others argued that if fraud is pursued, more people could be enveloped. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q9aa19078f44c24082666","qf22365ed108102b8e168","q8b237d0e1e341e8126d0"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q9aa19078f44c24082666","summary_en":"A participant argued Wang Xuebing and Qing were not in the same group as Guo, and that naming him in Guo’s motion signaled a deliberate message. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf22365ed108102b8e168","summary_en":"A participant contended the individual in New Zealand likely needed tighter security. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q8b237d0e1e341e8126d0","summary_en":"A participant argued David appearing in New York was likely tied to laundering proceedings, and if fraud was the chosen label, everyone involved would be pulled in. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Victim narrative and use of funds: legal fees, donations, compensation priority","description":"Participants argued more generally about whether victim narratives and money-use rules should constrain legal-fee spending, fundraising, and compensation sequencing, with one side expressing fatigue and another pointing to counsel involvement. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qf40b51fdd9669fa9170f","q8bd7286395a81886cf36","q7b2c5f2401cf6fd92ca9"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qf40b51fdd9669fa9170f","summary_en":"A participant argued Guo could have lived peacefully if he had avoided the dispute from the start, implicitly challenging the legitimacy of current claims over resource burdens. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q8bd7286395a81886cf36","summary_en":"A participant claimed they did not want to be involved in extra complications. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q7b2c5f2401cf6fd92ca9","summary_en":"A participant argued an Alliance lawyer was the person handling this area of legal work. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Could reprosecution follow acquittal: new-evidence exception and double-jeopardy boundary","description":"Participants repeatedly argued over hypothetical relitigation, with one view that post-verdict new evidence might allow a renewed case and another view that legal limits and practical bars make that almost impossible. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q29fbc9efc41a72baf3db","qda51f67fded9c2cd4006","q0d23fce3a090bf28f302"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q29fbc9efc41a72baf3db","summary_en":"A participant argued that a settlement involving Wang Yanping and related actors could produce a so-called new evidence path that might be used to re-plead GTV. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qda51f67fded9c2cd4006","summary_en":"A participant contended this is not workable under their reading of procedure. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q0d23fce3a090bf28f302","summary_en":"A participant argued GTV should remain acquitted until the case ends and that re-prosecution for the same charge afterward is highly unlikely, even before a grand jury. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Process-control speculation: filings, delay sequencing, and procedural formatting as strategy","description":"Participants argued the filing sequence looked like strategic sequencing, disputing whether procedural formality mattered beyond tactical signaling in a recurring “chicken-and-egg” pattern. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qdd98c77309d40e71f9f3","q9b886e672aa0df250b1c","q5c5ffebe35bcbb310d41"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qdd98c77309d40e71f9f3","summary_en":"A participant argued the process resembled a repeated chicken-and-egg game used multiple times. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q9b886e672aa0df250b1c","summary_en":"A participant claimed the practical value of these steps was irrelevant to the outcome. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q5c5ffebe35bcbb310d41","summary_en":"A participant shared a social-post link as part of the procedural framing. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Litigation expansion outside core: RICO/laundering reach to Gclub, Hamilton, and related entities","description":"Participants argued whether RICO and laundering theories extend beyond core defendants to entities such as Gclub and Hamilton, while others contended only civil RICO segments might be settled away. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q1a5d779ff1d1b2061694","q7b2c5f2401cf6fd92ca9","qf69519725cf4741845cb"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q1a5d779ff1d1b2061694","summary_en":"A participant claimed major RICO targets include Gclub, Xijiaosu, and Hamilton, with claims those higher-level actors participated in laundering. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q7b2c5f2401cf6fd92ca9","summary_en":"A participant argued an Alliance lawyer was responsible for handling that segment. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf69519725cf4741845cb","summary_en":"A participant claimed the civil RICO matters could be settled. Community statements, not court findings."}]}],"summary":"讨论核心围绕刑事程序与财产没收权能分歧。多数参与者先争论GTV与郭相关资产在无罪或先前裁判后，是否还能改走欺诈/民事路径继续追缴，以及检方、辩方与第三方谁可主导财产处理。另一主线是王认罪范围与追加起诉：有人把认罪限定为“仅两罪”并视为有保留余地的协商结果，也有人认为程序上可借后续上诉与新材料持续推进。与此并行的是破产案与刑事案互依，alter 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还拿钱帮骗子打官司","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38cde2f61e1a64fa43b8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q7e644de04cc6f1062a3d","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":402,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T03:27:36.941Z","text":"打完官司 等返钱的时候 \n钱还优先给骗子(登记债权人)","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e644de04cc6f1062a3d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q8a323b0863881a360c23","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":403,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T03:29:15.266Z","text":"收到点渣渣 还要对骗子感恩戴德","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a323b0863881a360c23","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q292b230f6fc29020dd63","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":404,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T03:31:13.406Z","text":"但是呢 有个雷在这里","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q292b230f6fc29020dd63","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q7bdf327254d3ee444fea","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":405,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T03:31:37.772Z","text":"目前刑事案 检方要强行没收GTV","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7bdf327254d3ee444fea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qf23d1346341d581c7ac3","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":406,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T03:32:22.068Z","text":"如果是用 涉嫌欺诈 这个名义","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf23d1346341d581c7ac3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q63842a862e1e700e5438","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":407,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T03:35:14.715Z","text":"那么 刑事案签不起诉的高层 要被拉回来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63842a862e1e700e5438","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qf69519725cf4741845cb","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":408,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T03:37:35.994Z","text":"他们 民事Rico可以和解","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf69519725cf4741845cb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q200142d2898a74b7a986","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":409,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T03:37:53.356Z","text":"刑事Rico 怎么办？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q200142d2898a74b7a986","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qdc9a9330e41c997775d9","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":410,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T03:44:23.002Z","text":"这里还有两个定义\n破产案里 先做成G enterprise  郭通过alter ego 实体的钱都算在他头上 Luc可以民事Rico追钱\n刑事案里 借用破产案的alter ego 把G enterprise 实体的欺诈 洗钱 与郭绑定","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc9a9330e41c997775d9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qb9a69f51c10c9ca5d841","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":411,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T03:46:35.254Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 我觉得你的专业就是我们现在缺的那一环","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9a69f51c10c9ca5d841","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q76e54c342af5c80dcba5","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":412,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T03:46:48.214Z","text":"那就有个问题了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76e54c342af5c80dcba5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qbe258d74936c2f1a7a7e","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":413,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T03:47:59.100Z","text":"Alter ego 在破产案成立\n但民事Rico Luc要取得资格 必须要借助刑事案\n刑事案Rico 到郭 又必须借助破产案的alter ego ［用户 reb***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe258d74936c2f1a7a7e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qf337517ec6ba6ad85ca1","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":414,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T03:49:39.584Z","text":"［用户 joh***］  你的解读我基本上理解了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf337517ec6ba6ad85ca1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q55788d676c6f8dfc59b2","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":415,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T03:50:08.095Z","text":"对","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf337517ec6ba6ad85ca1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55788d676c6f8dfc59b2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf337517ec6ba6ad85ca1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q23836738ba4cbc50ec2d","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":416,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T03:50:14.235Z","text":"按照这个说法","edited":false,"reply_to":"q55788d676c6f8dfc59b2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23836738ba4cbc50ec2d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55788d676c6f8dfc59b2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qc9b82110828cfbb79cd9","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":417,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T03:50:31.016Z","text":"不仅司法欺诈 rule60 需要推翻没收","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9b82110828cfbb79cd9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q29740e8dfec4c0c27e5d","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":418,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T03:50:41.468Z","text":"王认罪的东西 gtv","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29740e8dfec4c0c27e5d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qdfb7f0d9874416403760","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":419,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T03:50:43.411Z","text":"对的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdfb7f0d9874416403760","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q6527a9d6f5e95980db9b","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":420,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T03:50:50.826Z","text":"无罪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6527a9d6f5e95980db9b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q950edd1719575cb0e5b2","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":421,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T03:51:29.223Z","text":"所以luc那里","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q950edd1719575cb0e5b2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qba259cb5208b3f25fb1f","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":422,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T03:51:36.912Z","text":"其实是无效的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba259cb5208b3f25fb1f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qbd60aa5bc9de62c37425","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":423,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T03:52:49.477Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbd60aa5bc9de62c37425","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qa0a5314fe0a1abcab3e0","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":424,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T03:52:59.478Z","text":"因为无罪 gtv不欠钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0a5314fe0a1abcab3e0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q8bcf39328dea76155d3f","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":425,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T03:53:06.003Z","text":"大部分债权人没法成立","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8bcf39328dea76155d3f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q476b549e56c84e404a6a","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":426,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T03:53:09.012Z","text":"他追ROL 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才让ROL被污染","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa30a13cfa4eb6067225","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qd7fd862391a6a2d96bf4","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":431,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T03:56:01.880Z","text":"那刑事案的rico咋回事？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd7fd862391a6a2d96bf4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qed286cc581485d41be2d","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":432,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T03:56:31.266Z","text":"感觉是 刑事案借用破产案的alter ego","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed286cc581485d41be2d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q3841f862785813d4475f","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":433,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T03:56:55.568Z","text":"破产案的altet ego 啥时的事情","edited":false,"reply_to":"qed286cc581485d41be2d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3841f862785813d4475f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed286cc581485d41be2d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qce5e7cbb7371815c9eda","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":434,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T03:57:18.059Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 前面提到 我翻一下","edited":true,"reply_to":"q3841f862785813d4475f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce5e7cbb7371815c9eda","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3841f862785813d4475f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qb7b42d38f9ac9d3d5df7","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":435,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T03:58:13.173Z","text":"这个","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5a00930797b72b671dfe","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7b42d38f9ac9d3d5df7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a00930797b72b671dfe","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q67454d8b20572b342ebe","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":436,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T03:59:47.668Z","text":"我当时推理也就是这么推理的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67454d8b20572b342ebe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qd2ab155139362054b5b0","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":437,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T04:00:07.405Z","text":"就是刑民混用互相引用","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2ab155139362054b5b0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q7e966239d81a05ffb051","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":438,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T04:00:36.772Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 郭文件700 rico最佳证人是luc","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e966239d81a05ffb051","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qcabae75f3a8db5ac94c5","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":439,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T04:00:49.076Z","text":"所以当时我就觉得刑事案rico是用的破产案证据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcabae75f3a8db5ac94c5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qce01d3ac1d20dfdfe69d","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":440,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T04:01:25.691Z","text":"对\n所以郭不傻 提到的人 也不是随意说","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7e966239d81a05ffb051","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce01d3ac1d20dfdfe69d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e966239d81a05ffb051","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qd191d9d7ac2c0ae1a3b1","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":441,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T04:02:35.038Z","text":"Motion里 他能发挥的部分很少 传递情报 只能是做到选择性突出 outline","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd191d9d7ac2c0ae1a3b1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qf2c7930c9d36858a7b28","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":442,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T04:03:06.514Z","text":"王也一样啊 认罪后 等郭案的陪审团定罪结果出来 就发484动议 澄清认罪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2c7930c9d36858a7b28","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q0662a5a14355016d6c11","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":443,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T04:03:28.867Z","text":"rico如果用的破产案证据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0662a5a14355016d6c11","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q72d4c41a7aee5f636487","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":444,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T04:03:33.456Z","text":"rico不成立","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72d4c41a7aee5f636487","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q971df8667cb45ff4372f","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":445,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T04:03:38.031Z","text":"因为破产案用的债权人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q971df8667cb45ff4372f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q195625eacbbfefb896c2","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":446,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T04:03:42.325Z","text":"债权人luc司法欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q195625eacbbfefb896c2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q9b90613e67ffb3408bee","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":447,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T04:03:47.488Z","text":"一切都回到733","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b90613e67ffb3408bee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qa406cfddcf8ae66479f6","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":448,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T04:04:08.894Z","text":"这就是为什么托雷斯要掐断电源","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa406cfddcf8ae66479f6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q47cdba473a3d927b18db","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":449,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T04:05:45.857Z","text":"GTV无罪 \n那么刑事案 拱竹立案依据 成疑\n破产案里 债权人 虚假","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47cdba473a3d927b18db","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q4111c58e12d1378d2375","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":450,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T04:06:22.606Z","text":"733司法欺诈确认","edited":false,"reply_to":"q47cdba473a3d927b18db","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4111c58e12d1378d2375","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47cdba473a3d927b18db","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q37e1d0471c6fd3f4bf1a","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":451,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T04:06:41.575Z","text":"733成立 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左右为难","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdfe6e44d2c75092efa55","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q06baa9dec3de51a88a76","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":469,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T04:12:31.363Z","text":"托雷斯主动申请螺丝哥的788 下去算了啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06baa9dec3de51a88a76","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q4d43d5c3818b9f23c3b4","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":470,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T04:13:02.095Z","text":"那帮子共谋傻X 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你又猜对了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62bc9e635c65d633ecb1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q5591efe4da9533d2eeda","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":482,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T04:15:51.744Z","text":"螺丝哥值1000万","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5591efe4da9533d2eeda","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qc908d5a741f2ac872e25","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":483,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T04:15:53.844Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 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越掩饰啥","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23cea7dd2fc54c4427b0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qaf677af637bc9e8eab1e","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":487,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T04:16:45.906Z","text":"说实话 gtv必须无罪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf677af637bc9e8eab1e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q7518199d40f83347dd71","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":488,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T04:17:16.769Z","text":"如果有罪 意见虎的证词 律师再[屏蔽词] 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点这几个人名字\n事出反常必有妖","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8071163a9c17bde1615f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q2e22c7ed353aa2839766","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":491,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T04:19:35.749Z","text":"南区法院遇到我们 基本可以退休了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e22c7ed353aa2839766","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q5b008d18b18d815199ff","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":492,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T04:20:16.148Z","text":"到时候我看看 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吓唬一大圈人 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joh***］ 你南区动议发了吗","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd47b26e3d4c2cab41506","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qebec726d9ddb0198e5e2","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":520,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T04:36:32.316Z","text":"如果南区骂人的动议 估计让二巡上传也不好意思吧😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qebec726d9ddb0198e5e2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qf610e6a99067dd19b77f","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":521,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T04:38:15.997Z","text":"张永冰 能往哪里跑呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf610e6a99067dd19b77f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q397576bcdcab95cc4213","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":522,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T04:38:47.999Z","text":"GTV无罪 刑事案Rico不到郭 \n那几个犯罪实体 法务都是他管的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q397576bcdcab95cc4213","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q485a07587d75c5b70ebf","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":523,"speaker":"Sap***","date":"2026-03-06T04:39:48.844Z","text":"很遗憾，用户 [删节：隐私信息] 离开了 **郭文贵法庭文件，不禁言不删帖**。希望他一路好走。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q485a07587d75c5b70ebf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qfcc5167766362be09b33","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":524,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T04:40:28.232Z","text":"木兰的证词 张让她做虚假填表还是什么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfcc5167766362be09b33","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q6527671864996015a5da","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":525,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T04:42:56.868Z","text":"他一个移民律师 如果被起诉 会不会把代理的那些虚假政庇 都抖出来🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6527671864996015a5da","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q619d8faae0cd7e0dc052","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":526,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-03-06T06:13:56.090Z","text":"这就是睁眼说瞎话。联盟说谎的水平和厚颜无耻的程度远远超出共匪。\n当时的我居然100%接受这种说辞，时不时就转发王是英雄的说法。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5fa121fa704dd316f8a5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q619d8faae0cd7e0dc052","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5fa121fa704dd316f8a5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q1b6380def33dc7a33813","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":527,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-06T06:15:49.368Z","text":"王跟luc和解了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b6380def33dc7a33813","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q0b6b00a894e996bc6541","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":528,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T06:16:03.170Z","text":"什么文件","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b6b00a894e996bc6541","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q2a698f3504cc54b59124","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":529,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T06:16:07.000Z","text":"破产案？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a698f3504cc54b59124","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qb69e0bda4ffea990345d","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":530,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T06:17:28.757Z","text":"几号？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb69e0bda4ffea990345d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q2581e0a7023a0dcc1bde","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":531,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T06:17:40.773Z","text":"问问他","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2581e0a7023a0dcc1bde","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q20eb2517e18590a1e095","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":532,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T06:19:47.080Z","text":"［用户 pz0***］  王艳萍和luc和解了？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20eb2517e18590a1e095","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q01a825c976e6dade8dd2","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":533,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-06T06:20:58.485Z","text":"在问","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2581e0a7023a0dcc1bde","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01a825c976e6dade8dd2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2581e0a7023a0dcc1bde","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qefc84e15fbbf17843d38","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":534,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-06T06:21:27.396Z","text":"怎么焦点都到破产案来了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qefc84e15fbbf17843d38","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q29fbc9efc41a72baf3db","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":535,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-03-06T06:25:20.034Z","text":"我有一个猜测，如果王雁平也跟luc和解，加上灭共演员的和解，可能是给南区检方制造“新证据”，这种新证据是以前无论怎么穷尽发现都不可能找到的证据，所以南区可以重新就gtv进行起诉。不知道用这种间接新证据对已经无罪的重先起诉，程序是否可行？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29fbc9efc41a72baf3db","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qda51f67fded9c2cd4006","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":536,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T06:28:45.907Z","text":"我觉得不行","edited":false,"reply_to":"q29fbc9efc41a72baf3db","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda51f67fded9c2cd4006","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29fbc9efc41a72baf3db","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q0766a419f200f4358f45","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":537,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-03-06T06:36:29.714Z","text":"您的推断在程序上为何行不通\n您设想的路径——王雁平与Luc和解、污点证人与检方达成协议，从而制造\"无法预见的新证据\"——在无罪裁决的情境下不具备法律效力，原因如下：\n首先，美国联邦法院在 Fong Foo v. United States（1962）及后续一系列判例中确立了原则：无罪裁决一旦作出，即具有终局性，法院甚至无权审查该裁决是否基于错误，更遑论检方以新证据为由申请重审。\n其次，\"新证据\"例外（new evidence exception）在美国联邦体系中仅适用于定罪后的救济程序（如 habeas corpus），从未被扩展至允许检方在无罪裁决后重新起诉。\n第三，即便污点证人事后翻供或作出新的证词，也不能改变这一宪法壁垒。检方唯一可能的补救途径，是证明原审存在\"欺诈法院\"（fraud on the court）的情形，但这条路极为狭窄，且在实践中几乎没有成功先例。\n检方实际可能采取的策略\n如果南区检方（SDNY）确实希望利用后续和解或污点证人证词，更现实的路径不是重新起诉GTV，而是：\n以新证据支撑其他独立罪名的起诉——例如洗钱、电信欺诈、或与GTV相关但罪名不同的阴谋指控——只要这些新罪名在法律上与已裁决无罪的罪名构成要件不同，双重危险条款的保护便不适用。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0766a419f200f4358f45","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q600ef36124d5a099b46b","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":538,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-03-06T06:36:58.366Z","text":"它们难道准备起诉gtv洗钱？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q600ef36124d5a099b46b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qd7bbf683a7cff7b9abcb","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":539,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T06:37:22.661Z","text":"tony的也是新证据呀","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd7bbf683a7cff7b9abcb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q13038ad8424e19299f90","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":540,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T06:39:47.650Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge777/status/2029806960573567056?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13038ad8424e19299f90","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q0d23fce3a090bf28f302","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":541,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-03-06T06:47:19.619Z","text":"gtv,在这个案子结束之前，永远无罪。即使结案后再起诉，几乎不可能再定罪。甚至同样罪名再起诉大陪审团都不会通过","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d23fce3a090bf28f302","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q0d4e3e1d6e328442f078","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":542,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-06T06:52:51.195Z","text":"🐦不是让木兰删除信息，说要来抓他们，但后来没发生，是因为都转污点证人了吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q368dace90d4e6af0aa45","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d4e3e1d6e328442f078","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q368dace90d4e6af0aa45","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qbb25c9f4622f5618288f","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":543,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-06T07:30:04.881Z","text":"谁都好谈，就老郭这仨瓜俩枣的不行\n\nhttps://x.com/yalun369/status/2029722055650722256?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb25c9f4622f5618288f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q28465fc6a9bed7c1ca74","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":544,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-06T08:04:57.139Z","text":"陪审团确认无罪的不是不能再起诉了吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q29fbc9efc41a72baf3db","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q28465fc6a9bed7c1ca74","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29fbc9efc41a72baf3db","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qf6fbd449d03b3043844a","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":545,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T08:12:47.103Z","text":"天道观察者的基本逻辑线 就是 gtv无罪 导致luc的债权人登记破产了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8883af8e97cc16984ff4","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6fbd449d03b3043844a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q99a5cb2cc0d4b771354a","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":546,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T08:12:56.957Z","text":"因为债权人登记 很多人都是因为gtv登记的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99a5cb2cc0d4b771354a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qeee681536210b72cb043","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":547,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T08:13:15.664Z","text":"gtv不没收 等于做实了 债权人登记假 司法欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeee681536210b72cb043","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q2ab84d24eb50f48e940b","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":548,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T08:13:48.697Z","text":"而民事rico 是根据王艳萍的认罪 哎呀我也混了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ab84d24eb50f48e940b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q8a2a0b3c6f5a6d346509","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":549,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-06T08:17:03.477Z","text":"Gtv无罪➡️债权人登记无效➡️破产案rico无效➡️G系列实体与老郭无关➡️G系列刑事案欺诈与老郭无关➡️老郭无罪\n是这意思不？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q892442d51dcda1495338","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a2a0b3c6f5a6d346509","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q1821e56a9a262676d4b2","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":550,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T08:17:34.715Z","text":"破产案rico咋来的？ ［用户 joh***］","edited":true,"reply_to":"q8a2a0b3c6f5a6d346509","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1821e56a9a262676d4b2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a2a0b3c6f5a6d346509","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q196daaec764281fbab1c","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":551,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T08:48:16.057Z","text":"从刑事案顺延来的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1821e56a9a262676d4b2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q196daaec764281fbab1c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1821e56a9a262676d4b2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q67297162763a88c772c4","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":552,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T08:48:17.088Z","text":"刑事案的alter ego 是从破产案顺延的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67297162763a88c772c4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q4715b2f4b61184635837","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":553,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T08:56:43.574Z","text":"王艳萍认罪 所以破产案rico？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q196daaec764281fbab1c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4715b2f4b61184635837","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q196daaec764281fbab1c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q99be3e8ff2b6111031bc","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":554,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T09:05:22.599Z","text":"她认罪 那么G enterprise包含的几个实体有罪","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4715b2f4b61184635837","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99be3e8ff2b6111031bc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4715b2f4b61184635837","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q5b6043522b1955377fe6","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":555,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T09:07:39.076Z","text":"根据破产案的alter ego 郭有罪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b6043522b1955377fe6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q06cf748f07eaad90ca43","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":556,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T09:08:15.330Z","text":"破产案可以开始Rico","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06cf748f07eaad90ca43","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qe5db4f63a063e5094d69","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":557,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-03-06T09:09:28.436Z","text":"是。我之前以为新证据例外适用于政府和被告，其实只适用被告有罪后变无罪。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q28465fc6a9bed7c1ca74","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5db4f63a063e5094d69","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q28465fc6a9bed7c1ca74","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qd6b799cbd94e109e192c","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":558,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-03-06T09:29:16.939Z","text":"那些拿了法治基金钱的人后来与luc和解，感觉不是因为不懂法那么简单，如果推上说的班龙都跟luc和解是真的，那他们为什么要和解，申请法治基金和法治社会的钱用于申请目的，没犯法和解什么！？如果违法使用这两个ngo的钱，就算与luc和解，也脱不了罪，应该是与检方和解。它们的和解，唯一能解释得通的，就是它们承认法治基金法治社会也是被告的替代自我（可能用的其它名词，反正意思就是属于郭，天下一切都属于郭，一切都是被郭转移的属于债权人的钱），这应该是另外做局，不知道想干什么。陪审团都说gtv欺诈无罪了，然后用另外的罪名起诉，那同样是那些人那些事，之前为何不起诉那些罪名。然后它们会说之前没有发现法治基金法治社会属于郭，那些人的和解就可以证明了。这么一推测，它们可能是想起诉被告和那些[屏蔽词]共谋用法治基金法治社会诈骗，用gtv洗钱。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6b799cbd94e109e192c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q2999573c6ce2fb13077b","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":559,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T09:44:35.502Z","text":"我们这个群不止值两千万美金","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2999573c6ce2fb13077b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q29d4bba32faa94942cce","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":560,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T09:44:39.116Z","text":"至少四千万","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29d4bba32faa94942cce","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qd783f990cf6f23c32dcd","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":561,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T09:45:05.340Z","text":"我觉得 不管luc他们怎么兔子打拳","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd783f990cf6f23c32dcd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q40b051459f4d32b3a9de","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":562,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-06T09:45:19.733Z","text":"在瑞恩的丁元英式围剿下 都是无用功","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40b051459f4d32b3a9de","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qd59e0c7eac67b4516a26","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":563,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T10:10:22.539Z","text":"就是这个意思啊\n那300傻X","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd6b799cbd94e109e192c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd59e0c7eac67b4516a26","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6b799cbd94e109e192c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q754cf6eed9402a9652db","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":564,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T10:11:10.775Z","text":"收ROL的款 不等于就是洗钱\n和Luc和解的那些高层 才是民事Rico对象\n他们也大多数登记了破产案债权人\n和解后 他们还可以保留 债权人身份 优先分钱\n这是他们和 Luc 演双簧呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q754cf6eed9402a9652db","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q8552dedba1f12fab3ae9","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":565,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-03-06T10:20:46.295Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/2029863770999377993?s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8552dedba1f12fab3ae9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q744e0915dcae93ecd490","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":566,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-03-06T10:32:49.133Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/2029867686914834447?s=19","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q744e0915dcae93ecd490","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qc89db2b34b56f91ecf1d","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":567,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-06T10:40:14.991Z","text":"1000亿币致富梦","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc89db2b34b56f91ecf1d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q57a753f8ab3070c12bda","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":568,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-03-06T11:15:41.825Z","text":"［用户 joh***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q57a753f8ab3070c12bda","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qb575c2dbb96143751114","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":569,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-06T11:18:57.341Z","text":"大家都有一个新中国梦 叫1000亿币致富梦","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb575c2dbb96143751114","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qbb4ea577716958312ac5","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":570,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-06T11:21:37.854Z","text":"国内人屯粮 倒闭 失业 我们喜国人全世界最幸福","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb4ea577716958312ac5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q3dce8539ff445e607013","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":571,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-06T12:00:23.753Z","text":"你17年把你那2万美金投其他数字货币 早亿万富翁了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3dce8539ff445e607013","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q898a48e256ebe581758e","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":572,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-06T12:07:40.389Z","text":"少扯马后炮，多干点实事儿吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q898a48e256ebe581758e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qb0db8e4be418c971f96b","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":573,"speaker":".an***","date":"2026-03-06T12:11:55.603Z","text":"禅中局的破局者不是局中人，而是与此局沾边的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5a00930797b72b671dfe","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0db8e4be418c971f96b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a00930797b72b671dfe","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q2638e485d8650a511a99","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":574,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-06T12:12:27.559Z","text":"喜币啥好事儿也没赶上\n\nhttps://x.com/7warroom/status/2029827785947029780?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2638e485d8650a511a99","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q1b354efcd365e08a48b7","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":575,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T12:12:38.626Z","text":"GTV无罪\n刑事案里 拱竹用GTV投资 作为报案依据 存疑 \n刑事案的立案 要被撤销","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8a2a0b3c6f5a6d346509","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b354efcd365e08a48b7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a2a0b3c6f5a6d346509","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qf0e85c1a8898c0d6f325","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":576,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-06T12:21:56.934Z","text":"我当年认知低啊 认知高怎么会投喜国","edited":false,"reply_to":"q702d3e5e63fbdb1ff5d8","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0e85c1a8898c0d6f325","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qa4dae0535bc271ce8b2d","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":577,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-03-06T12:31:01.925Z","text":"老郭是在2020年的新冠疫情这个准确下建了信任，按照正常人的逻辑共产党都攻击全世界了怎么都该群而攻之死翘翘了吧，于是才会对老郭说的投资有着信心。就是没想到这个世界这么黑","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf0e85c1a8898c0d6f325","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa4dae0535bc271ce8b2d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0e85c1a8898c0d6f325","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q218cb939013117579100","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":578,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-03-06T12:32:10.352Z","text":"投资那三年，新冠可是一直持续的，封城封控的情况下，很让人产生幻觉，共产党会撑不下去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q218cb939013117579100","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qb863ceb069456f164908","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":579,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-06T12:42:00.034Z","text":"长岛让木兰删除信息，还有长岛逃跑，是不是都是演戏","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0d4e3e1d6e328442f078","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb863ceb069456f164908","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d4e3e1d6e328442f078","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q2f87a43550b83178485a","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":580,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-06T12:42:18.525Z","text":"长岛“逃跑”就是为了让青藤上位吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f87a43550b83178485a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qbbd454f0ba8e10bd12cb","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":581,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-06T12:42:40.280Z","text":"他如果不逃跑，也应该没事儿吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbd454f0ba8e10bd12cb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q159c0265187871643d50","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":582,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-06T12:44:40.950Z","text":"检方就没打算抓农场主","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q159c0265187871643d50","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qf0bd48c66154b3406d82","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":583,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-06T13:06:15.805Z","text":"你别往他脸上贴金了 他说的屯粮是共匪要倒的屯粮","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0bd48c66154b3406d82","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qca0e75881803c1131242","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":584,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-03-06T13:33:22.360Z","text":"所以总结一下：\n\nAlter ego在破产案成立,但民事Rico Luc要取得资格 必须要借助刑事案；\n刑事案Rico到郭，又必须借助破产案的alter ego。王认罪 》G enterprise包含的几个实体有罪  》破产案的alter ego 郭有罪，破产案可以开始Rico","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5b6043522b1955377fe6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca0e75881803c1131242","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b6043522b1955377fe6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q784be540ba7da0b87d6d","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":585,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-03-06T13:33:28.877Z","text":"对不对？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q784be540ba7da0b87d6d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q6cc72273a1996b03575c","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":586,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-03-06T13:35:01.788Z","text":"王彦平与Luc 和解是啥情况？ 什么时候发生的？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6cc72273a1996b03575c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qfaab63f1fe01c1b6d4e4","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":587,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T13:35:35.789Z","text":"对的\n两边一直跳来跳去\n破产案 刑事案 必须放一起看","edited":false,"reply_to":"qca0e75881803c1131242","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfaab63f1fe01c1b6d4e4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca0e75881803c1131242","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q627ca8a17356d652d6ff","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":588,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T13:37:02.165Z","text":"和解详情 我不太清楚 我需要去看一下","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6cc72273a1996b03575c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q627ca8a17356d652d6ff","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6cc72273a1996b03575c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qdca002d1f13e623072a1","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":589,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-03-06T13:38:49.242Z","text":"也就是说， 由于王的认罪 才导致郭 被RICO 在刑事案件有罪。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfaab63f1fe01c1b6d4e4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdca002d1f13e623072a1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfaab63f1fe01c1b6d4e4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qe9bfc940f579c4c82ea7","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":590,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-06T13:40:27.404Z","text":"如果假设成立 说明郭已掌控不住局面","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9bfc940f579c4c82ea7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q849a65470d99d99107fa","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":591,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-03-06T13:40:41.635Z","text":"但是王认的两项罪是GTV 有关的， 而GTV 又无罪， 那么， 郭无RICO 罪， 也无Ater Ego。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q849a65470d99d99107fa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q273d7c85eabc6bea3945","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":592,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T13:40:59.954Z","text":"我得去查484原文","edited":false,"reply_to":"q849a65470d99d99107fa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q273d7c85eabc6bea3945","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q849a65470d99d99107fa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q63cf813f2304e3d2b496","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":593,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T13:41:10.655Z","text":"不相信任何人的解读和翻译","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63cf813f2304e3d2b496","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q4642742cc5c59f13f2c3","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":594,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-03-06T13:41:30.662Z","text":"那么王现在与Luc 又和解什么？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4642742cc5c59f13f2c3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qda758d5dec3c86c23ef5","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":595,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-06T13:41:31.617Z","text":"请个律师看一下就知道了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda758d5dec3c86c23ef5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q26a54eb9940a67a26ce7","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":596,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-06T13:45:01.703Z","text":"所以美国和共匪没啥区别","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26a54eb9940a67a26ce7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qf077d9541980ff1c355d","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":597,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-06T13:45:12.094Z","text":"郭追求的东西到底是什么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf077d9541980ff1c355d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q4c342f0775094397f0fc","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":598,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-03-06T14:01:32.526Z","text":"所以再把上面的总结一下：\n\n刑事案的alter ego 是从破产案顺延的；破产案rico，又从刑事案顺延来的。Alter ego在破产案成立,但民事Rico Luc要取得资格 必须要借助刑事案；刑事案Rico到郭，又必须借助破产案的alter ego。王认罪 》G enterprise包含的几个实体有罪  》破产案的alter ego 郭有罪/Rico\n\n王认的是GTV的罪；GTV被陪审团判无罪； 所以alter ego 没有了， RICO 刑事 破产案 都没有了\n\n对不对","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c342f0775094397f0fc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"q6027a6e1d6893f169b2f","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":599,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-06T14:04:22.718Z","text":"https://x.com/grassroots79241/status/2029779378729631755?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6027a6e1d6893f169b2f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"},{"id":"qdd98c77309d40e71f9f3","batch_id":"batch-000087","seq":600,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-06T14:18:46.372Z","text":"对\n先有鸡再有蛋的游戏\n被玩了无数次","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4c342f0775094397f0fc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd98c77309d40e71f9f3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c342f0775094397f0fc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000087"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000086","next_batch_id":"batch-000088"}