{"id":"batch-000088","number":88,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-03-08T18:14:55.512Z","date_end":"2026-03-13T01:04:25.978Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 088 (Mar 8, 2026 – Mar 13, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. From Mar 8, 2026 through Mar 13, 2026, discussion concentrated on sentencing aftermath and overlapping proceedings, while participants remained split on interpretation. They disputed whether outcomes reflected ordinary legal sequencing or external political pressure, and argued over third-party interventions, settlement meaning, and whether procedural actions prejudiced later remedies. Financial-tracing links to bankruptcy and RICO/GTV narratives overlapped with docket-operability disputes tied to Docket 67012324 and filings 811/812. Community statements, not court findings.","guide_en":[{"title":"Sentencing interpretation and politicized extraction coexist: rapid sentencing narratives and subjective inference compete","description":"Participants argued that post-sentencing outcomes were either routine legal steps or evidence of external political extraction narratives, with no shared factual baseline. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q4698845a889867197b1b","qf410bffaf6317a0c61fb","q54f1b6154af2afd886d4"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q4698845a889867197b1b","summary_en":"A participant argued that after sentencing there is little room for further strategic maneuvering. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf410bffaf6317a0c61fb","summary_en":"Another participant characterized the process as a gambler-like dynamic rather than clear legal logic. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q54f1b6154af2afd886d4","summary_en":"A participant echoed that prior point in a short confirmation. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"State or network endorsement claims: participants dispute whether case scale and damage were understated","description":"Members contended that external state or alliance actors might be shaping litigation and media framing, while disputing the implied size and impact of those support claims. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q8ad68f4247da7dfff70e","q5ea65f744d67ea5f4b1e","q726d548ef761e01602d9"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q8ad68f4247da7dfff70e","summary_en":"One participant claimed a state-backed/large-coalition structure was backing the case through money, lawyers, and media control. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q5ea65f744d67ea5f4b1e","summary_en":"The same participant argued that a reported $20 million law-firm figure was too small relative to the alleged operation. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q726d548ef761e01602d9","summary_en":"Another participant contended that a win in this context would represent a peak moment for that broader strategy. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Third-party submissions and settlement meaning: whether procedure equals implicit admission","description":"Participants disputed whether third-party filings and settlement-linked conduct should be treated as procedural rights or as implicit endorsement of guilt, without agreement on the legal meaning. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q084f86e5c225fbc342a3","q23c090233f3a51be2384","qfe1b73672c8e939d9bc8"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q084f86e5c225fbc342a3","summary_en":"A participant argued that the third-party submission process was procedurally unjust. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q23c090233f3a51be2384","summary_en":"Another participant stated they would immediately join an immediate-response effort in light of the filing dispute. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qfe1b73672c8e939d9bc8","summary_en":"A participant disputed the discussion quality by attacking perceived stubbornness in Guo’s approach. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Second-round filings and transparency: upload and docket access drive repeated challenges","description":"Participants argued that docket transparency and timing were central, while contesting what specific uploaded records like 811/812 actually meant for process fairness. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qd947edd7a32b391a3a24","q19ac0d64fd7364b86d54","qde8347fb63c1c8811822"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qd947edd7a32b391a3a24","summary_en":"A participant shared the CourtListener reference for United States v. Guo, indicating Docket 67012324 as the key tracker. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q19ac0d64fd7364b86d54","summary_en":"Another participant argued the filing should be uploaded soon, estimating within about 24 hours. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qde8347fb63c1c8811822","summary_en":"A participant pointed to documents labeled 811 and 812 in the docket stream. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Funds-chain ownership arguments: governance funds, disbursement use, and possible fraud-misuse narratives","description":"Participants disputed whether fund movement tied to legal-governance accounts implicated property purchases, fraud transfer claims, or money-use breaches, with arguments split over responsibility and proof standards. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qc9a350a20071687c0bba","q8a42bf49fa81273ccea8","q8bbd3a32e8100f2b2f24"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qc9a350a20071687c0bba","summary_en":"One participant claimed he used legal-governance fund money to buy property. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q8a42bf49fa81273ccea8","summary_en":"Another participant argued that if prior settlement claims and transfer conduct were true, it suggested coordinated fraud-shifting narratives and derivative fraud framing against related parties. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q8bbd3a32e8100f2b2f24","summary_en":"A participant argued culpability depends on declared purpose and approved use of funds, especially around house purchases and self-declared authorization. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Wang and bankruptcy crossover: RICO, alter ego, and claimant boundaries remain contested","description":"Members disputed how the bankruptcy case intersects with criminal RICO allegations, and whether GTV links and alter-ego reasoning justify extending liability concepts to Guo. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q2cd3eb6a5e9dc55f6e26","q6f511d2fbb0843d366c6","q0dbcd24ce68def62e504"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q2cd3eb6a5e9dc55f6e26","summary_en":"A participant asked how the bankruptcy RICO issue connected to GTV. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q6f511d2fbb0843d366c6","summary_en":"Another participant claimed the link appears across bankruptcy and related adversary proceedings but said document-level confirmation was still pending. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q0dbcd24ce68def62e504","summary_en":"A participant described a theory tying criminal RICO to GTV reporting, G-Group fraud characterization, and an alter-ego pathway to Guo. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Meaning of heavyweight documents: alliance material, independent filing, or routine defense filing is unresolved","description":"Participants argued about the origin and meaning of extensive filings, with no clear agreement on whether they reflected alliance influence, independent intervention, or ordinary defense preparation. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q12a7f9963ebe96dc3c01","q5d5a672ecb279bc60917","qf975db6908f151028ce5"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q12a7f9963ebe96dc3c01","summary_en":"One participant disputed the provenance of large defense materials and queried whether they came from alliance direction or independent submissions. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q5d5a672ecb279bc60917","summary_en":"Another participant argued the core material needed to be substantially replaced. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf975db6908f151028ce5","summary_en":"A participant identified Qingteng as the likely source. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Self-prosecution and second-round strategy: whether letters preserve or block future legal routes","description":"Participants disputed whether coordinated letters and second-review filings strengthen accountability, or whether they effectively narrow private prosecution and appeal pathways. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q9968a352c90cb6fe8d50","q25cc81de4786522a167f","qcc9c44a9ee8ed572bcf3"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q9968a352c90cb6fe8d50","summary_en":"A participant urged a second letter documenting recent acts and accused conduct of intentional legal risk. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q25cc81de4786522a167f","summary_en":"Another participant argued the alliance was still pushing people to write letters to lawyers. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qcc9c44a9ee8ed572bcf3","summary_en":"A participant claimed this pressure tactic blocked self-prosecution channels. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Lawyer-relationship dispute: influence, responsiveness, and legitimacy of advocacy","description":"Members disputed whether lawyers were coordinating with alliances and ignoring parties, while others contended the coordination claims lacked credibility and evidence. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q7ce16f0d12e803354bc2","q12c1d62631331b136a5b","q650ab747ae6519e95c25"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q7ce16f0d12e803354bc2","summary_en":"A participant argued that seemingly coordinated groups were aiding counsel work in ways they believed improper and that lawyer replies were absent. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q12c1d62631331b136a5b","summary_en":"Another participant contested those allegations as baseless talk. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q650ab747ae6519e95c25","summary_en":"A participant relayed a claim that many lawyers declined after a prior team was dismissed, and three later volunteered, including a Chinese-speaking lawyer. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Opinion-rhetoric pivot: from agitation toward courtroom records and contamination risk","description":"Participants argued that discourse shifted from mobilizing noise toward preserving records for court and second-review review, while disputing how public messaging itself might amplify contamination risk. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q2570fd6dd3dc40f11c21","q740aa276a6357d3b8ff9","q642690453a62039d2086"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q2570fd6dd3dc40f11c21","summary_en":"A participant claimed third-party self-prosecution was treated as noise in a live broadcast context. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q740aa276a6357d3b8ff9","summary_en":"Another participant argued the speaker was effectively speaking on behalf of Ryan. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q642690453a62039d2086","summary_en":"A participant argued severe persuasion narratives and still submitting letters to judges reflected frustration with counsel access and risk of influence spread. Community statements, not court findings."}]}],"summary":"讨论围绕量刑后续与并案程序持续发酵，群内未形成事实共识，主要在解释框架上对立。部分成员认为量刑裁量、金额与没收结果属正常司法推进；另一些人强调外部组织、律师体系与媒体可能形成“政治化/组织化”推动。围绕第三方提交、和解含义、延期边界、special master与Rule60、docket披露等程序细节多次交锋。王案、破产案及GTV/青藤相关问题叠加，使受害人、证人、债权人及资金去向身份界定长期分裂。大量“幕后操控、报复、威胁”叙事反复出现，但多数被标注为待核实猜测。后段讨论转向较稳妥路径，即强调依法留痕、二巡与自诉/上诉预期，同时也关注群体言论与信息扩散风险。","guide":[{"title":"量刑解释与“政治化收割”并存：快判断、抢钱未遂口径与主观推断交织","message_ids":["q4698845a889867197b1b","qf410bffaf6317a0c61fb","q54f1b6154af2afd886d4"]},{"title":"外部国家或集团背书叙事：成员分歧于涉案金额与影响是否被低估","message_ids":["q8ad68f4247da7dfff70e","q5ea65f744d67ea5f4b1e","q726d548ef761e01602d9"]},{"title":"程序与和解是否等于“背书认罪”：第三方提交与程序正义边界持续分歧","message_ids":["q084f86e5c225fbc342a3","q23c090233f3a51be2384","qfe1b73672c8e939d9bc8"]},{"title":"二巡文件与程序透明：上传、下载、docket/PACER状态成为争议核心","message_ids":["qd947edd7a32b391a3a24","q19ac0d64fd7364b86d54","qde8347fb63c1c8811822"]},{"title":"资金链归属争论：法治基金与打款账户是否涉及买房、诈骗或洗钱","message_ids":["qc9a350a20071687c0bba","q8a42bf49fa81273ccea8","q8bbd3a32e8100f2b2f24"]},{"title":"王案与破产案交叉：RICO、alter 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到时候全部写给法庭","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2d08b7a59de44d2f097c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0526fe3b2aae5716f37","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d08b7a59de44d2f097c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q2d3fa40042b5dd92a1f7","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":207,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-09T08:16:54.097Z","text":"3月9号文件是辩方争取延期量刑的最后机会？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d3fa40042b5dd92a1f7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q674ec5030bd1c9f13503","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":208,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-09T08:17:17.796Z","text":"不一定 这只是量刑陈述 还有延期动议","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2d3fa40042b5dd92a1f7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q674ec5030bd1c9f13503","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d3fa40042b5dd92a1f7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q4099ef3878122e0dcf3d","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":209,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-09T08:17:25.224Z","text":"后面还有什么幺蛾子都说不定","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4099ef3878122e0dcf3d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q20422a9973895f0cb514","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":210,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-09T08:17:32.177Z","text":"其实也不差这一个月，一个月辩方能搞出啥花样来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20422a9973895f0cb514","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qf474aa9bcd505f32a110","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":211,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-09T08:18:38.728Z","text":"到现在，南区依旧没人提二巡的事，二巡也真是心大，完全被无视了也不介意","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf474aa9bcd505f32a110","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qe57328b25a699dfce964","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":212,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-09T08:19:22.491Z","text":"第三方，二巡，都被刻意无视","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe57328b25a699dfce964","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q87e76c61826b9a6ad9f5","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":213,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-09T08:58:30.423Z","text":"青跑路了没","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87e76c61826b9a6ad9f5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q46371025884bcc498ccc","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":214,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-09T18:15:30.568Z","text":"律师有动静吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46371025884bcc498ccc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qd947edd7a32b391a3a24","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":215,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-03-09T18:21:27.242Z","text":"https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67012324/united-states-v-guo/","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd947edd7a32b391a3a24","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q534a123b67da32ccecb1","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":216,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-03-09T18:21:44.196Z","text":"还没有","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q534a123b67da32ccecb1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q2e25346355c33a99eb99","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":217,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-09T18:36:40.184Z","text":"我的信二巡收到了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e25346355c33a99eb99","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q19ac0d64fd7364b86d54","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":218,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-03-09T18:39:02.432Z","text":"看看什么时候会上传，应该不会超过24小时吧。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2e25346355c33a99eb99","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19ac0d64fd7364b86d54","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e25346355c33a99eb99","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q98fdbb197debcb5c0549","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":219,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-09T18:39:54.189Z","text":"应该已经上传了吧，我不太会用PACER","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q98fdbb197debcb5c0549","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q68158be12e4c93a63f96","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":220,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-09T18:40:33.150Z","text":"应该是上传了，显示可以下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写的东西吓住了吗？当缩头乌龟🐢了？青藤不是说今天晚点时候会岀来的吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbb5942f1dae5b4a15477","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3101595be7817514d6b0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb5942f1dae5b4a15477","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q1b8f323f6363f856bdb2","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":226,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-09T21:09:09.430Z","text":"他们现在文件都是晚上11点以后出来😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3101595be7817514d6b0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b8f323f6363f856bdb2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3101595be7817514d6b0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q6c683368945b8e7765bf","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":227,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-03-09T21:09:45.506Z","text":"不会在下班时间之后吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c683368945b8e7765bf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q4d33ee646a8ac6c91c0c","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":228,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-03-09T21:29:29.689Z","text":"https://x.com/Qiqi7877/status/2031107130099691626?s=20","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d33ee646a8ac6c91c0c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q0484a3852706e2526beb","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":229,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-09T22:27:40.924Z","text":"https://x.com/testurheart/status/2031134409114476811?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0484a3852706e2526beb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qde8347fb63c1c8811822","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":230,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-03-09T23:08:40.907Z","text":"文件811 812","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde8347fb63c1c8811822","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qa88189cc6366981dc3c7","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":231,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-03-09T23:11:01.817Z","text":"现在还开不了，除非交钱。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa88189cc6366981dc3c7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q274180d039d6081a2d32","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":232,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-09T23:12:14.599Z","text":"我发一下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q274180d039d6081a2d32","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qf25f763cc71fd262ac3e","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":233,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-09T23:13:46.722Z","text":"老郭律师延期发量刑陈述","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf25f763cc71fd262ac3e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qb0a7e0ad3e92c689e40b","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":234,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-09T23:13:54.271Z","text":"［用户 ntp***］ 估计是看了我们的文件","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0a7e0ad3e92c689e40b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qbd061b10774a73226f20","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":235,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-09T23:13:57.636Z","text":"检方疯了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbd061b10774a73226f20","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qf8dead5950da40b5c807","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":236,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-09T23:13:58.498Z","text":"哈哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8dead5950da40b5c807","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qa1436022e12e7c25f34c","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":237,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-09T23:14:20.558Z","text":"估计是联盟干扰司法 被我们喝住了😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1436022e12e7c25f34c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qdb3f178e1666d1aae47b","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":238,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-09T23:19:54.876Z","text":"两边掐架","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb3f178e1666d1aae47b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qacb2e461f0aba333f17a","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":239,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-09T23:20:06.397Z","text":"不过辩方就是延期一周又能如何呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qacb2e461f0aba333f17a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qe6f8d059e50f7e82512b","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":240,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-09T23:20:22.656Z","text":"一再挑战检方的底线","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe6f8d059e50f7e82512b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q78d82dec03ceb2d11949","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":241,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-09T23:20:48.116Z","text":"辩方不是不想惹政府吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78d82dec03ceb2d11949","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q53b15419fdf36e2c4688","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":242,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-09T23:21:31.466Z","text":"辩方是真没办法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53b15419fdf36e2c4688","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q31e5b59a0641fccdeb9b","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":243,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-09T23:21:35.656Z","text":"一团乱麻","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31e5b59a0641fccdeb9b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q9debd1e994494506136a","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":244,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-03-09T23:22:01.377Z","text":"太好了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9debd1e994494506136a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qbcaa2642a1d7a94e1add","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":245,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-03-09T23:24:59.728Z","text":"尊敬的 Torres 法官： \n\n我们已被指定在上述案件中代表 Miles Guo。 郭先生的量刑目前定于 2026 年 4 月 13 日进行（ECF#782）。 郭先生的辩护律师正在继续努力处理此案。 然而，我们今天无法提交我们的量刑备忘录，并请求额外一周的时间来完成。 我们收集到的信息量极其庞大。 我们正试图综合这些信息，并以有助于法院且能充分反映我们关于量刑的所有论点（无论是事实还是法律层面）的方式将其呈现出来。 这些信息非常复杂。此外，辩方目前有两项动议提交给法院，寻求获取至关重要的信息。 尽管我们尽了最大努力，并在此案上投入了大量时间，我们今天确实无法完成量刑文件的提交，并且受制于我们的职业操守和义务而提出此请求。 我们已就此请求与政府进行了商议，正等待政府的表态。 \n\n因此，我们请求额外一周的时间来提交我们的量刑文件。感谢法院对本请求的考虑。 \n\n抄送：所有通过 ECF 系统提交的律师 \n\n敬呈， /s/ John F. Kaley, Joshua L. Dratel Melinda Sarafa","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbcaa2642a1d7a94e1add","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q5eaf39f1943e325dd8b4","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":246,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-03-09T23:25:18.310Z","text":"早知道，Jason 的东西晚一天发。让他们出洋相。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5eaf39f1943e325dd8b4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q3620060a3c2537285ef4","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":247,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-03-09T23:26:03.796Z","text":"https://x.com/i/status/2031107130099691626","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3620060a3c2537285ef4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q2f594313778a452ddef8","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":248,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-03-09T23:26:39.877Z","text":"刚刷到jason zen","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5eaf39f1943e325dd8b4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f594313778a452ddef8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5eaf39f1943e325dd8b4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q9a24926dbfe7b2d072f0","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":249,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-03-09T23:27:33.334Z","text":"他就是群里的[删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":"q2f594313778a452ddef8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a24926dbfe7b2d072f0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f594313778a452ddef8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qd3f7bd8c2f06f713f87c","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":250,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-09T23:29:01.613Z","text":"联盟已经被吊起来了，瑞恩那边准备怎么样了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q53b15419fdf36e2c4688","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3f7bd8c2f06f713f87c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53b15419fdf36e2c4688","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q19bf419589394d9ea157","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":251,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-03-09T23:29:05.764Z","text":"尊敬的 Torres 法官：\n\n政府在此恭敬致函，反对被告在今天晚些时候首次提出的延长今日量刑意见书提交期限的请求。（参见案卷第 811 号）。此处的情况超出了为通融律师而请求例行短暂延期的范畴。郭文贵自庭审定罪以来，其量刑已搁置超过 18 个月，而法院在数月前的 2025 年 12 月设定的最后期限仍然有效，应当予以执行。\n+3\n\n被告律师一直等到最后期限到来，才在下午 4:19 通过电子邮件联系了负责此案的助理联邦检察官（AUSA），请求在今天通话。政府随后不久致电了辩护律师。在通话中，辩护律师表示他们希望再获得一周的时间来提交文件，并询问政府是否同意将今天的期限延长一周。然而，辩护律师明确表示，被告不会撤回其延期一个月的请求（参见案卷第 807 号（被告请求）、第 809 号（政府反对意见）），也不承诺无论该最新未决的一个月延期请求结果如何都会在一周内提交文件。没有任何正当理由——更不用说本法院曾表示进一步延期所需的“特殊”正当理由（案卷第 782 号）——可以在这最后关头批准延长今日的最后期限。今日的期限是法院在数月前的 2025 年 12 月设定的。（案卷第 782 号）。并且法院几个月前特别警告过律师，“除非证明有特殊的正当理由，否则不得下令进一步推迟量刑。”（案卷第 782 号）。被告提出又一次延期的申请并没有——也不应该——单方面暂停其最后期限。\n+4\n\n基于上述原因，以及之前在政府反对被告第六次延期请求（案卷第 809 号）中陈述的所有原因，被告的量刑应在法院几个月前设定的期限内进行，不得进一步拖延。\n\n--- 第 2 页 ---\n\n案件 1:23-cr-00118-AT 文件 812 提交于 2026年3月9日 第 2 页，共 2 页 第 2 页 \n+1\n\n被告应立即提交其文件，以符合法院早已设定的最后期限。\n\n抄送：登记律师（通过 ECF）\n\n签署人：恭敬提交，SEAN S. BUCKLEY 联邦政府代理律师 根据《美国法典》第 28 编第 515 条授予的权力行事。\n+4\n\n/s/ Micah F. Fergenson Ryan B. Finkel Justin Horton Juliana N. Murray 助理美国联邦检察官 \n(212) 637-2190/6612/2276/2314 \n+4","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19bf419589394d9ea157","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q133f4c3202b7eec9f9af","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":252,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-09T23:29:43.495Z","text":"瑞恩这里这周应该可","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd3f7bd8c2f06f713f87c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q133f4c3202b7eec9f9af","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3f7bd8c2f06f713f87c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q143455327250bf9ca411","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":253,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-09T23:30:33.189Z","text":"不知道辩方的量刑文件里会不会出现咱们文件的影子","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q143455327250bf9ca411","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q01ccc5d8fbe987104753","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":254,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-09T23:30:46.683Z","text":"咱们给的弹药够多了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01ccc5d8fbe987104753","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q12a7f9963ebe96dc3c01","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":255,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-03-09T23:31:25.508Z","text":"辩护律师哪里来的大量文件资料啊？是不是联盟背后操控的啊？\n\n或者有独立第三方提交啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12a7f9963ebe96dc3c01","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qa9def61c2cb5d09f781b","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":256,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-09T23:32:00.599Z","text":"就是哪些853吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa9def61c2cb5d09f781b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q0b7d3a3a906dfa6270cb","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":257,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-03-09T23:32:00.797Z","text":"律师可以用二巡的东西狐假虎威。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b7d3a3a906dfa6270cb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qf975db6908f151028ce5","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":258,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-09T23:32:02.504Z","text":"就是青藤","edited":false,"reply_to":"q12a7f9963ebe96dc3c01","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf975db6908f151028ce5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12a7f9963ebe96dc3c01","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q608675b95e1a6916eff6","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":259,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-09T23:33:11.184Z","text":"检方只是把这个说成被告拖延量刑，有点low了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q608675b95e1a6916eff6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q92e3896e3dee8d524d02","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":260,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-03-09T23:33:23.449Z","text":"小腾子说的重磅文件，难道打脸了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q92e3896e3dee8d524d02","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q7b27ff7bbb1a5c3cae78","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":261,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-09T23:33:33.805Z","text":"哈哈 打脸了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q92e3896e3dee8d524d02","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b27ff7bbb1a5c3cae78","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q92e3896e3dee8d524d02","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q8176f996069da31366ed","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":262,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-09T23:33:34.818Z","text":"哈哈哈哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8176f996069da31366ed","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q5c1bc2a348f96b1b9e62","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":263,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-09T23:33:39.914Z","text":"重磅文件指的是律师的量刑文件吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c1bc2a348f96b1b9e62","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qec22a3b7520b3416aa12","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":264,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-09T23:33:52.672Z","text":"9号难产了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec22a3b7520b3416aa12","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q5d5a672ecb279bc60917","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":265,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-03-09T23:34:03.042Z","text":"必须更换主要内容了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q92e3896e3dee8d524d02","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d5a672ecb279bc60917","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q92e3896e3dee8d524d02","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qc9843a5f79ea3136bb64","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":266,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-03-09T23:34:05.161Z","text":"量刑陈述要是出来，小藤子就成功了！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9843a5f79ea3136bb64","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qd3818322276b4376e1e9","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":267,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-09T23:34:39.859Z","text":"律师要写量刑文件了，那也就是辩方放弃无罪辩护了呗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3818322276b4376e1e9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qdbd62da1f9414de4d465","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":268,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-03-09T23:34:44.227Z","text":"青藤[删节：隐私信息]得太早了。","edited":true,"reply_to":"qc9843a5f79ea3136bb64","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbd62da1f9414de4d465","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9843a5f79ea3136bb64","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qbc69ac6f532f630bdecb","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":269,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-09T23:35:04.679Z","text":"还不确定","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd3818322276b4376e1e9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc69ac6f532f630bdecb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3818322276b4376e1e9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q6b8302cbd31b3dd404c0","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":270,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-09T23:35:11.851Z","text":"还有一个延期","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b8302cbd31b3dd404c0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q2ef27ea6cf002368003f","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":271,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-09T23:35:25.467Z","text":"本来就是量刑前很难解决","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc9843a5f79ea3136bb64","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ef27ea6cf002368003f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9843a5f79ea3136bb64","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q02f8eee0ff799316f78d","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":272,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-03-09T23:36:19.267Z","text":"律师如果识时务，就应该把联盟彻底抛开或者卖掉。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02f8eee0ff799316f78d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batc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CJA 的案件），关于政府付费的 CJA 律师是否可以在量刑阶段申请放弃辩护，情况如下：\n\n1. 律师可以申请，但必须经过法院批准\n在联邦法院，CJA 律师（由政府付费指派给符合条件的被告的私人律师）不能单方面辞职 。如果律师想要退出，必须向法院提交撤回代理申请（Motion to Withdraw） 。\n+4\n\n2. 必须具备“正当理由”\n法院通常只有在存在“正当理由”（Good Cause）的情况下才会准许撤回，尤其是在关键的量刑阶段 。常见的正当理由包括：\n+4\n\n不可调和的冲突：律师与被告之间存在严重且无法修复的信任崩塌或沟通中断。\n\n利益冲突：律师发现继续代理将违反职业道德准则（例如发现与另一名客户存在利益冲突）。\n\n被告的要求：被告明确要求解雇律师并更换新人。\n\n3. 量刑阶段的特殊性\n在量刑阶段，法院对于更换律师的申请会审查得非常严苛，原因如下：\n\n\n防止程序拖延：正如您提供的文件中政府方所强调的，量刑日期通常是预先设定的（如本案中在 2025 年 12 月就已设定） 。频繁更换律师会被视为拖延战术 。\n+4\n\n\n“特殊正当理由”标准：如果距离量刑截止日期很近，法院通常要求证明存在“特殊正当理由”（Exceptionally Good Cause）才能准许变动 。\n+3\n\n\n代理的连续性：量刑是刑事诉讼的关键阶段，涉及提交量刑意见书（Sentencing Submission） 。如果新律师介入，需要大量时间重新研究长达数月的庭审记录 。\n+3\n\n4. 文件中的相关关联\n在您提供的《美国诉郭文贵案》法律函件中，虽然目前争议的焦点是延长提交截止日期而非律师辞职，但政府方的立场反映了法院对时间节点的严格控制 ：\n+4\n\n政府方坚决反对被告在最后时刻（Eleventh Hour）提出的任何延期请求 。\n+3\n\n如果律师在此时申请放弃辩护，极有可能会被法院以“没有正当理由”或“会导致不当程序延误”为由拒绝，除非律师能证明继续代理将导致严重的法律或职业道德问题 。\n+3\n\n总结：\nCJA 律师可以申请放弃辩护，但在量刑阶段，法官拥有极大的裁量权。如果法官认为此举是为了拖延时间（如文件所述的第六次延期请求背景），或者没有达到“特殊正当理由”的标准，法官会强制律师继续代理直到量刑结束 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可以分析一下今天的二巡文件和辩方文件吗","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b2184cf8a28fc903669","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qd280392c1846326f446e","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":282,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-03-10T02:03:17.725Z","text":"https://x.com/milesliao88203/status/2031163365507133875?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd280392c1846326f446e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q52bc48b24f35757255e5","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":283,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T02:10:20.434Z","text":"这个[删节：成员身份]是[屏蔽词]\n他的回复应该早是写好的模板\n以为辩方律师会提交量刑内容","edited":true,"reply_to":"q4b2184cf8a28fc903669","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52bc48b24f35757255e5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b2184cf8a28fc903669","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q2c33cea29de91ced5488","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":284,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T02:11:56.431Z","text":"结果是延期 这个[屏蔽词]也没看 还是回复的模板信息","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c33cea29de91ced5488","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q91902a934c96241e8c57","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":285,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T02:12:46.023Z","text":"一个简单的问题 他怎么知道 会有决定案件性质的猛料？做实了青给辩方提供证据 污染量刑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91902a934c96241e8c57","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q37689f7a9ba3bbcaa4a3","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":286,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-10T02:17:06.661Z","text":"会不会老郭已经卖掉联盟了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q91902a934c96241e8c57","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37689f7a9ba3bbcaa4a3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91902a934c96241e8c57","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q40749c4366231d5e9f34","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":287,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-10T02:20:12.001Z","text":"联盟急了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40749c4366231d5e9f34","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q89ba791ec413256fc17a","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":288,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T02:36:21.627Z","text":"郭眼里 青代表不了什么联盟\n又没有批文 签字 授权\n好歹鸟是法治社会主席\n王雪冰是法治基金主席\n青算个屁","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q89ba791ec413256fc17a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q42568795633cd8994aa8","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":289,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-10T03:26:15.604Z","text":"郭打电话，还转述一堆名字，而罗伊居然都记住了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q275f6b0d62128fcaa9d6","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42568795633cd8994aa8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q05303d5eb48bd4d38f59","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":290,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-10T03:26:44.853Z","text":"这应该就是这顿队伍 表忠心","edited":false,"reply_to":"q42568795633cd8994aa8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05303d5eb48bd4d38f59","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42568795633cd8994aa8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q241b9273bbfde0545ec6","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":291,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T03:27:00.285Z","text":"这是罗伊威胁","edited":false,"reply_to":"q05303d5eb48bd4d38f59","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q241b9273bbfde0545ec6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05303d5eb48bd4d38f59","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q5825b4584a7735ed9f37","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":292,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T03:27:24.083Z","text":"黑材料都在他们手里呢\n谁都不干净","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5825b4584a7735ed9f37","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q3cd26dcb220b335897dd","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":293,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T03:28:23.568Z","text":"所以点她的名字 想拿钱辞职跑路？没门的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3cd26dcb220b335897dd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q4cd02d7865bcb01003b0","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":294,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-10T03:33:55.055Z","text":"有可能mdc最近退回的信件很多, 有战友开始怀疑了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4cd02d7865bcb01003b0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qe416346e3eb4f178ac5b","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":295,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-03-10T03:33:55.287Z","text":"［用户 ntp***］ https://x.com/latin1101/status/2031196017002164239?s=46\n老实交待你身后的独立财团支持是谁？🤣","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe416346e3eb4f178ac5b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q1833a8a7299b5e1f7a1d","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":296,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-10T03:35:08.472Z","text":"也许他们点名可能是为了让大家相信，可以给mdc写信","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1833a8a7299b5e1f7a1d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q43c422d3ac8a67b671b3","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":297,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-10T03:35:33.857Z","text":"我觉得郭不会接“战友”的信的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43c422d3ac8a67b671b3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q9f7e19d0bb01df4f3390","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":298,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-03-10T03:39:17.281Z","text":"有财力 专业的律师支持 - 夸的不错 👍😁","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe416346e3eb4f178ac5b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f7e19d0bb01df4f3390","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe416346e3eb4f178ac5b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qaf726f23d0b208bf51ab","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":299,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-03-10T03:43:21.965Z","text":"其实对于郭先生的电话真假不重要； 重要的是联盟及联盟领导层及每个人在这个案件中扮演了什么角色。 \n\n自诉对于还原事情的真相有好处吗？ 有没有踢推动自诉的人？ \n\nT卡有没有血洗那些支持者/没有内幕的人？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf726f23d0b208bf51ab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q50e1a8ec3c4c089e588f","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":300,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-10T03:44:27.376Z","text":"青藤现在的行为","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50e1a8ec3c4c089e588f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qad7397c0a348148045fb","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":301,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-10T03:44:46.594Z","text":"就是危机状态下的应激反应","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad7397c0a348148045fb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qe18d7b18443971575210","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":302,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-10T03:45:30.500Z","text":"对于他们来讲，现在最重要的是维稳吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe18d7b18443971575210","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qe5d86cfc3e82d6065ee0","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":303,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-03-10T03:47:47.022Z","text":"还有一个： 所有投资人，所有联盟负责人/义工， 所有”受害人”， 都必须拿出一个profit and loss statement, 详尽的收入与支出声明，与G系列 法制基金 法制社会 有关的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5d86cfc3e82d6065ee0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q1d30ed85339ef198e05b","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":304,"speaker":".an***","date":"2026-03-10T04:18:17.910Z","text":"打钱需要银行账号或者是微信好友，这些人是怎么知道郭的银行账号的？郭不是破产了吗？怎么会有银行账号呢？为什么我以前从来没有怀疑过呢？我真蠢！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q14c22c3ec532b159cd68","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d30ed85339ef198e05b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qd8a107bde6ee9db44053","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":305,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-03-10T04:25:16.299Z","text":"监狱里可以打钱。不是郭文贵的银行账号。应该是监狱里怎么设置的账号吧！有上限应该。你问问机器人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1d30ed85339ef198e05b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8a107bde6ee9db44053","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d30ed85339ef198e05b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q8427c6435f5d0d7b1af2","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":306,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-03-10T04:31:31.647Z","text":"https://x.com/huanghebian/status/2031223039699071455?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8427c6435f5d0d7b1af2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q7feaae3becc807e856c7","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":307,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-03-10T05:15:44.479Z","text":"别人写的东西都格式不对，只有这几个知道写信格式，无师自通。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q14c22c3ec532b159cd68","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7feaae3becc807e856c7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q947c2728c11dae7a5bec","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":308,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T05:36:15.523Z","text":"大致的脉络","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q947c2728c11dae7a5bec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qd3f300c15ef43647cdc4","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":309,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T05:37:29.092Z","text":"螺丝哥上去 是分水岭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3f300c15ef43647cdc4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qa25cb1e4dac09792d48b","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":310,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-10T05:37:48.300Z","text":"刑事案王认罪-附加起诉书-王被alter ego-G集团欺诈-Rico到郭\n [删节：隐私信息]  这个具体咋样的？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa25cb1e4dac09792d48b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qb7a0f6f07805f793e24e","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":311,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-10T05:37:59.855Z","text":"破产案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7a0f6f07805f793e24e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q601bc3048e699209fe81","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":312,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-10T05:38:21.170Z","text":"难道不是王 alterego 然后检方没收gtv 然后通过债权人登记？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q601bc3048e699209fe81","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qa1febca287119f0a9262","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":313,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T05:40:39.048Z","text":"一开始 王的角色 其实和鸟 王雪冰一样\n检方只起诉洗钱 共谋\n没有到G集团二号人物的地位","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa25cb1e4dac09792d48b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1febca287119f0a9262","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa25cb1e4dac09792d48b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qaa39dbfafabe58d3e335","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":314,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T05:42:03.147Z","text":"王燕平以为 认两项个人罪 同意没收 就可以得到和鸟一样的待遇 至少轻判","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa39dbfafabe58d3e335","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q60cba523738a37c92d2f","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":315,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-10T05:43:03.270Z","text":"土匪一直赢 为什么感觉你们很自信 是不是我认知低","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60cba523738a37c92d2f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q4d08e6ddeab4209559e3","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":316,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T05:43:24.217Z","text":"她认罪 同意14亿没收\n然后检方突然追加起诉 她被控二号人物","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d08e6ddeab4209559e3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q2ae656aec281e38b96e1","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":317,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-10T05:43:26.767Z","text":"王被骗了还是特务？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qaa39dbfafabe58d3e335","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ae656aec281e38b96e1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa39dbfafabe58d3e335","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q59925349b9f51f2aba47","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":318,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T05:43:41.333Z","text":"感觉像被忽悠了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2ae656aec281e38b96e1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59925349b9f51f2aba47","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ae656aec281e38b96e1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q418ddfe699262c18bc81","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":319,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-10T05:43:54.448Z","text":"哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q418ddfe699262c18bc81","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qfe574e86ae68982a7696","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":320,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-10T05:44:34.983Z","text":"司法欺诈把没收令打废会怎么样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe574e86ae68982a7696","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q42508ba48064578719a9","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":321,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-10T05:44:46.359Z","text":"程序就进行不下去了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42508ba48064578719a9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q77c398b4d7b23f3f0bcc","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":322,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-10T05:44:53.394Z","text":"没人有资格拿钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77c398b4d7b23f3f0bcc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q49699c3fd85b725af5b1","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":323,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T05:48:56.951Z","text":"刑事案 检方没收GTV 说得过去\n但是郭的破产案里 Luc不能碰GTV 不能Rico到法治基金","edited":false,"reply_to":"q601bc3048e699209fe81","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q49699c3fd85b725af5b1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q601bc3048e699209fe81","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qb8928b8a063d450d6bdc","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":324,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T05:50:59.118Z","text":"那300骨干就是傻X 被Luc 吓唬","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb8928b8a063d450d6bdc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q9ce63c9744477012fdfa","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":325,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T05:57:27.196Z","text":"检方通过追加指控王 指控GTV涉欺诈 于是法治基金的钱来源污染 要被没收\n但是郭涉及GTV的部分 又是无罪\n那么背锅的就只有 王雪冰了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ce63c9744477012fdfa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q842684c554f59d0e2b61","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":326,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T06:09:01.230Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ \nLuc是个人受托人 破产案也只能Rico到与郭有关的G集团资产 没有GTV\n刑事案 没收范围 是整个G集团\n前期在Luc那登记的债权人 如果只是单独GTV投资 比如拱竹 随着郭案GTV无罪 债权就失效了","edited":true,"reply_to":"q9ce63c9744477012fdfa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q842684c554f59d0e2b61","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ce63c9744477012fdfa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q7f4e492a192789f94f00","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":327,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T06:13:09.945Z","text":"想要钱 可以 和郭没关系 没理由必须在Luc 那登记 单独去起诉GTV 起诉王燕平","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f4e492a192789f94f00","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q50124bd9a94ae0eb5f69","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":328,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-10T06:17:26.027Z","text":"破产案用王的alter ego 来没收g系列对吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q842684c554f59d0e2b61","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50124bd9a94ae0eb5f69","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q842684c554f59d0e2b61","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q7b57a8b3694ac515afd7","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":329,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T06:18:29.418Z","text":"不是","edited":false,"reply_to":"q50124bd9a94ae0eb5f69","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b57a8b3694ac515afd7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50124bd9a94ae0eb5f69","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qe3da79e91e4bd1bbb4bc","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":330,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T06:18:48.640Z","text":"是刑事案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3da79e91e4bd1bbb4bc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q63a7c65fd6c0ee99977e","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":331,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T06:20:08.517Z","text":"破产案 是用GTV可疑欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63a7c65fd6c0ee99977e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q2cd3eb6a5e9dc55f6e26","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":332,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-10T06:20:28.655Z","text":"破产案rico是怎么和gtv扯上关系的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q63a7c65fd6c0ee99977e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2cd3eb6a5e9dc55f6e26","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63a7c65fd6c0ee99977e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q35822c163e95a6deb12b","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":333,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-10T06:25:14.813Z","text":"所以，粪青并不掌握辩方律师的动态？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2c33cea29de91ced5488","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35822c163e95a6deb12b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c33cea29de91ced5488","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q9ad3fafad3556203aae6","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":334,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-10T06:27:06.551Z","text":"退回了他咋知道是谁写的？撒谎都不打草稿了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q14c22c3ec532b159cd68","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ad3fafad3556203aae6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q7afe27bafb348c979dd4","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":335,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-10T06:27:21.450Z","text":"都是自己人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q42568795633cd8994aa8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7afe27bafb348c979dd4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42568795633cd8994aa8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qe0d217e78c19011ca7be","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":336,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T06:29:42.474Z","text":"破产案的Rico 是直接从刑事案拿过来的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2cd3eb6a5e9dc55f6e26","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0d217e78c19011ca7be","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2cd3eb6a5e9dc55f6e26","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q117a06d3faf9debff8e3","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":337,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-10T06:30:08.811Z","text":"那就尴尬了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q35822c163e95a6deb12b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q117a06d3faf9debff8e3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35822c163e95a6deb12b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q5b9eaf233efe93e48838","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":338,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-10T06:30:48.815Z","text":"受宠若惊的赶脚","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe416346e3eb4f178ac5b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b9eaf233efe93e48838","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe416346e3eb4f178ac5b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q0dbcd24ce68def62e504","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":339,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T06:31:34.567Z","text":"而刑事案的Rico \n是用GTV报案-G集团诈骗-借用郭在破产案被描述alter ego G集团-Rico到郭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0dbcd24ce68def62e504","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q543055e9cc129c859eab","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":340,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-10T06:32:09.521Z","text":"尼玛 破产案的alter ego咋来的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0dbcd24ce68def62e504","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q543055e9cc129c859eab","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0dbcd24ce68def62e504","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q90210956c8067544133c","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":341,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T06:32:56.121Z","text":"Luc在破产案的描述指控","edited":false,"reply_to":"q543055e9cc129c859eab","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90210956c8067544133c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q543055e9cc129c859eab","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qec95e8be0ebf49211eaf","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":342,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T06:33:19.495Z","text":"这个还没有最终判定 参考破产案最新文件\nLuc和LLC还在就Mahwah扯皮\nLuc认为根据alter ego LLC属于G集团\nLLC认为alter ego只是指控 还没有判","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec95e8be0ebf49211eaf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q5e4456bb4c5002649c7c","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":343,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T06:37:04.098Z","text":"这个 [删节：隐私信息] 前面谈过\nAlter ego最早出现在破产案","edited":true,"reply_to":"q543055e9cc129c859eab","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e4456bb4c5002649c7c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q543055e9cc129c859eab","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q53b6f5726c669707002a","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":344,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-10T06:39:30.253Z","text":"明白","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5e4456bb4c5002649c7c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53b6f5726c669707002a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e4456bb4c5002649c7c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q8d1e61805ce068d34882","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":345,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T06:39:35.534Z","text":"两边都是 把指控 直接拿来 当认罪 用","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d1e61805ce068d34882","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qc47b4e14a6c95b0638d9","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":346,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-03-10T06:42:38.816Z","text":"你们的用语是：本来被告与g系列无关，因为债权人登记，把被告和g系列在法律上绑定了，导致检方起诉被告诈骗。我的用语是：拱卒和朱莉娅的债权，是G enterprise 是被告的替代自我这一结论成立的必要条件。也就是说，替代自我，就是luc以虚假债权为基础，编造出来的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5e4456bb4c5002649c7c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc47b4e14a6c95b0638d9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e4456bb4c5002649c7c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qd1b302aa994f9ad89a7f","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":347,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T06:44:16.825Z","text":"刑事庭 \n用对王的追加指控 诉G集团欺诈 开没收程序\n根据诉G集团欺诈 再用破产庭的指控（郭alter ego ）再Rico到郭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1b302aa994f9ad89a7f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q95fedd68dcd62b8d74f6","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":348,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-10T06:51:03.898Z","text":"有文件吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc47b4e14a6c95b0638d9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95fedd68dcd62b8d74f6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc47b4e14a6c95b0638d9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q08c855f93cf323d4a907","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":349,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T06:51:04.248Z","text":"破产庭\nLuc一开始沿用刑事庭的Rico指控\n追缴所有G集团资产 包括GTV及法治基金\n后来郭案里 GTV无罪 \nLuc就没资格继续追法治基金","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08c855f93cf323d4a907","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q5df84bc75cb5958c60e5","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":350,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-03-10T06:51:25.640Z","text":"如果王与luc达成和解是真的，它们的算盘可能是：虚假债权被证实后，用王的和解和认罪来再次主张g enterprise 是被告的替代自我，继续强推没收。但gtv无罪还是绕不过去的坎，无罪就永远无罪。王的和解最多能起到的作用，即使被告无罪，也可以没收gtv。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5df84bc75cb5958c60e5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q36404d7b84d92938f48b","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":351,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-10T06:51:57.945Z","text":"哈哈 没收gtv别忘了tony","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36404d7b84d92938f48b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q6f511d2fbb0843d366c6","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":352,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-03-10T06:56:13.042Z","text":"这个是贯穿在破产案和附属对抗程序的叙事里，具体体现在哪些文件，需要一个一个翻（可以找 [删节：隐私信息] 的agent帮忙找找看）。我是把南区检方在南区法院卷宗里提交的破产文件，喂给ai后，ai给我的结论。","edited":true,"reply_to":"q95fedd68dcd62b8d74f6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f511d2fbb0843d366c6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95fedd68dcd62b8d74f6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q22443bdd071b4d919c8a","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":353,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T06:57:49.889Z","text":"那么这样 也就是说\nLuc与王的和解 不能包括GTV的部分\n刑事案可以没收GTV 因为追诉王\n但郭的破产案 不能再有GTV相关的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5df84bc75cb5958c60e5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22443bdd071b4d919c8a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5df84bc75cb5958c60e5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qa072fd423a5c7b41f317","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":354,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T07:00:26.975Z","text":"那帮债权人 如果只是GTV投资 就要被取消","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa072fd423a5c7b41f317","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q31474110533b64beaeeb","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":355,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T07:00:31.081Z","text":"比如拱竹","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31474110533b64beaeeb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qae08f082bf16f6c4fab6","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":356,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-10T07:01:36.418Z","text":"因为alterego换了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q22443bdd071b4d919c8a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae08f082bf16f6c4fab6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22443bdd071b4d919c8a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q1f39b0a949b51a4f3df0","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":357,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-03-10T07:08:30.157Z","text":"好的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6f511d2fbb0843d366c6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f39b0a949b51a4f3df0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f511d2fbb0843d366c6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q0ea7bba1b7c0124be657","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":358,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-03-10T07:50:02.486Z","text":"所以gtv老椅子和参与vog（vog整体作为一个老椅子）得上南区法庭，说自己是因为是被告的信用才参与gtv投资，王没那个信用骗得了我，有理由怀疑王对检方进行了虚假陈述，要求开示王与检方达成诉辩交易细节，以及开示王的共谋者陈述的具体内容。不然即使被告无罪，gtv里还没退的钱，会被稀里糊涂没收。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q22443bdd071b4d919c8a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ea7bba1b7c0124be657","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22443bdd071b4d919c8a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qbc78b047bf174e28b441","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":359,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-03-10T07:52:23.047Z","text":"它们想换替代自我叙事的载体。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qae08f082bf16f6c4fab6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc78b047bf174e28b441","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae08f082bf16f6c4fab6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qa1f0b7e6d2d973b41af8","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":360,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-03-10T07:57:24.732Z","text":"喜交所由于来背，gclub由郭浩然来背。但喜交所和gclub有对立的完整公司架构，不可能是那两个人的替代自我。王雁平只认罪了gtv，所以承接农场借贷资金的那个实体，虽由王控制，但里面的钱也不能说是因为它的王的替代自我而没收。所以结论是，如果被告无罪后，唯一可以被稀里糊涂没收的，却是gtv里还没退的资金。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1f0b7e6d2d973b41af8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qa664e072434c0793f12e","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":361,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-03-10T08:52:24.530Z","text":"尊敬的 Torres 法官：\n\n我们已被指定为 Miles Guo（郭文贵） 在上述案件中的代理律师。\n\n\n郭律师的811 文件解读 - 1） 他们不是自愿当郭律师的 2）郭律师读了第三方对他们无效辩护的指控 3）他们只是在履行职业道德，了解处理这个案件，因为它非常复杂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa664e072434c0793f12e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q49ef53c363b48fe454ed","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":362,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-03-10T11:15:10.523Z","text":"被告的那个敲诈勒索罪，是怎么来的？检方的叙事是怎样的？我没有搞懂这个指控的来龙去脉，难道是灭共演员威胁取消投资，踢出爆料革命，这也算到了被告头上？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q49ef53c363b48fe454ed","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q42339b44a992e0f7995f","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":363,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-03-10T12:30:20.099Z","text":"二、如果郭无罪，他们仍然可以被认为互相共谋\n在法律逻辑里，法院可能会这样看：\n即使郭无罪，也可能存在：\n王雁平\n于建民\n郭浩然\n其他管理人员\n之间的 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一直在赢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc147e4cde839b160bac9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qbbe418ab5b37d665e641","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":365,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-10T13:03:58.011Z","text":"https://x.com/ninaweilan/status/2031300990368973134?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbe418ab5b37d665e641","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q771a723b66cd5b99477c","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":366,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T13:07:20.247Z","text":"是这意思","edited":false,"reply_to":"q42339b44a992e0f7995f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q771a723b66cd5b99477c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42339b44a992e0f7995f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q47b9e9aa6bde95b10c4d","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":367,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T13:08:21.111Z","text":"刑事案可以继续Rico G集团 几个实体 受益人 共谋洗钱的骨干","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47b9e9aa6bde95b10c4d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q2756d8ddf4c95c57e464","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":368,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T13:09:09.012Z","text":"但没有理由硬扯上郭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2756d8ddf4c95c57e464","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q58c6d5b6abf02ea6d68c","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":369,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T13:11:20.972Z","text":"然后Luc 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哭晕在厕所","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb922fdce689d27ba6ad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q9383f7e7aa4ecbbc84dc","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":371,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-03-10T13:12:53.951Z","text":"郭文贵的关押编号是多少啊？联盟公开讲过啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbbe418ab5b37d665e641","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9383f7e7aa4ecbbc84dc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbe418ab5b37d665e641","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qcb431f54d7f4e3d63505","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":372,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T13:23:54.301Z","text":"青 应该被称为 不入流\n刑事案Rico也没有他的份 倒是王案作证时虚假陈述 郭案和辩方污染证据 要被起诉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb431f54d7f4e3d63505","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q4c0fc49f17b2a193ca9e","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":373,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-10T14:57:50.279Z","text":"为什么又开始说写信了\n\nhttps://x.com/ninaweilan/status/2031300990368973134?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c0fc49f17b2a193ca9e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q8eced7a259f550ac624f","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":374,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-03-10T15:49:09.215Z","text":"此女交了5万美元的投名款，这时候出现无非两种，第一分散，第二准备接下来的工作","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4c0fc49f17b2a193ca9e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8eced7a259f550ac624f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c0fc49f17b2a193ca9e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q0c6cd9f44b9beb58d77f","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":375,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-03-10T16:04:06.125Z","text":"星晨啥也不做，只会阴阳怪气。写个自诉，刚开个头，看到难处就放弃。这种人我怀疑他的老婆会欣赏他吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c6cd9f44b9beb58d77f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q6e2469e2465c17b60863","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":376,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-10T16:06:55.813Z","text":"我以前正能量十足 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看起来就像是 特意威胁共谋","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe8c537ff077efc2735b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q1b27cf2b587be7f6b65e","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":380,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T18:42:03.825Z","text":"他没救了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8471f73a460b5eeb38ac","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b27cf2b587be7f6b65e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8471f73a460b5eeb38ac","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qae81537f1fa73577b04e","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":381,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-10T18:55:54.410Z","text":"https://x.com/testurheart/status/2031443781250093521?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae81537f1fa73577b04e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qee476bb7f811bbce3fae","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":382,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-10T18:57:24.081Z","text":"https://x.com/no3mos/status/2031438901684895809?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee476bb7f811bbce3fae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qa65f9a5730574e1d62b1","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":383,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-10T18:59:24.099Z","text":"给法官写信 草","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa65f9a5730574e1d62b1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q25cc81de4786522a167f","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":384,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-10T19:02:42.550Z","text":"粪青联盟还在鼓动人们给律师写信","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25cc81de4786522a167f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qdc49b3efc02dad9e6770","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":385,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T19:03:06.405Z","text":"急眼了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc49b3efc02dad9e6770","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q2a6b933e6354bd370dbf","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":386,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-10T19:06:31.796Z","text":"这群里一定有它们的眼线","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a6b933e6354bd370dbf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q753a23667a1736b5b5a2","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":387,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-10T19:06:59.921Z","text":"搞不懂他想干什么","edited":false,"reply_to":"q25cc81de4786522a167f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q753a23667a1736b5b5a2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25cc81de4786522a167f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q5bd6fa0a5e1082a3c0f9","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":388,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T19:07:11.074Z","text":"每个帮派都有\n比如 [删节：隐私信息] 大[屏蔽词] 屁酱的🐶","edited":true,"reply_to":"q2a6b933e6354bd370dbf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5bd6fa0a5e1082a3c0f9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a6b933e6354bd370dbf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qe001d7c1488a99d597db","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":389,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T19:08:19.704Z","text":"不怕的话 就不会鼓动写信","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe001d7c1488a99d597db","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q3f53a63d62d8008e7802","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":390,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-10T19:09:01.142Z","text":"话说回来，二巡对南区的影响力真的这么有限吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f53a63d62d8008e7802","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q05c2a74264fa3354360d","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":391,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-10T19:09:29.129Z","text":"几乎被托雷斯无视","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05c2a74264fa3354360d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"qcc9c44a9ee8ed572bcf3","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":392,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T19:09:33.359Z","text":"这是在堵自诉的口子","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc9c44a9ee8ed572bcf3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q62475967e3c65abb1fb5","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":393,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-10T19:10:11.154Z","text":"但tony已经立案了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcc9c44a9ee8ed572bcf3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62475967e3c65abb1fb5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc9c44a9ee8ed572bcf3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q9440fe9b4b501aa622b3","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":394,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-10T19:10:49.787Z","text":"准备这么完整的估计不多","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9440fe9b4b501aa622b3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q832a2bce4286982d831b","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":395,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T19:11:03.244Z","text":"减少二巡上传的材料","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q832a2bce4286982d831b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q46c3289bc5c6c67ee925","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":396,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-10T19:11:12.200Z","text":"就差几个啦啦队的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46c3289bc5c6c67ee925","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q9968a352c90cb6fe8d50","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":397,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-10T19:12:27.456Z","text":"［用户 chu***］  你抓紧再来一封信，把粪青最近干的事儿发给二巡，知法犯法，顶风作案，罪加一等","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9968a352c90cb6fe8d50","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q7016db683d77811be8cb","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":398,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T19:14:01.101Z","text":"小藤子是法盲","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7016db683d77811be8cb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q7485d6cbef3c3acda11a","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":399,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-10T19:14:05.811Z","text":"或者 [删节：隐私信息] 你俩谁来一封","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7485d6cbef3c3acda11a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"},{"id":"q62ae752de39355af0185","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":400,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-10T19:14:23.125Z","text":"他可能就是奔着死去的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7016db683d77811be8cb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62ae752de39355af0185","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7016db683d77811be8cb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000087","next_batch_id":"batch-000089"}