{"id":"batch-000091","number":91,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-03-21T07:17:13.877Z","date_end":"2026-03-22T16:37:20.216Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 091 (Mar 21, 2026 – Mar 22, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Discussions center on core disputes dividing the case between political persecution narratives and criminal fraud framing, debating whether political asylum applies and examining organizational accountability across the Alliance, defense counsel, and victim groups. Participants also contest procedural integrity, questioning sentencing reports, Document 700, and signature authenticity alongside ineffective counsel claims. 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人家吃喝玩乐享受过了 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恐慌了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc44fc9e289829bc1ba52","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q7a5a459e3aed46490ab7","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":643,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-21T23:02:27.953Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge777/status/2035492194887610774?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a5a459e3aed46490ab7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q8f0303cbb9633e0300b7","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":644,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-21T23:05:32.301Z","text":"他知道他闯祸了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f0303cbb9633e0300b7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qff1d65f0963460609603","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":645,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-21T23:06:24.543Z","text":"你应该告诉他来自诉，还有一线活路","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff1d65f0963460609603","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q24826cd1a95e1ebb1763","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":646,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-21T23:06:46.734Z","text":"他在群里","edited":false,"reply_to":"qff1d65f0963460609603","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q24826cd1a95e1ebb1763","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff1d65f0963460609603","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q5a79142510c5d1a43adf","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":647,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-21T23:07:21.662Z","text":"坦诚邀请他来，聊天，化解误会，他都不来","edited":false,"reply_to":"q24826cd1a95e1ebb1763","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a79142510c5d1a43adf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q24826cd1a95e1ebb1763","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qc41a267ada577dee1521","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":648,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-21T23:07:32.963Z","text":"他就怕被遣返","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc41a267ada577dee1521","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qb93a8929e02f39545cc6","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":649,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-21T23:07:49.789Z","text":"而且诈骗币是他抹不掉的黑点","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb93a8929e02f39545cc6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q61bcc0557c5deac3f57d","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":650,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-21T23:07:50.387Z","text":"他宁愿捂着眼，栽赃陷害这群","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61bcc0557c5deac3f57d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q1650b76f234ff4cb9366","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":651,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-21T23:08:09.943Z","text":"诈骗币主要责任人是他吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb93a8929e02f39545cc6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1650b76f234ff4cb9366","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb93a8929e02f39545cc6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qc1c336fd951898486eba","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":652,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-21T23:08:33.279Z","text":"他好像是主力吹鼓手","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1c336fd951898486eba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q44a3f1b2c5511abedfb8","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":653,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-21T23:08:45.187Z","text":"来毛线呀 他就在群里","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5a79142510c5d1a43adf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44a3f1b2c5511abedfb8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a79142510c5d1a43adf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q2073d4bc1b96fd573e76","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":654,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-21T23:09:03.993Z","text":"他不会也认唐平干妈了吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2073d4bc1b96fd573e76","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qdbca26ea79d686ed152b","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":655,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-21T23:09:08.009Z","text":"他就在这群里，还昧着良心，栽赃陷害","edited":false,"reply_to":"q44a3f1b2c5511abedfb8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbca26ea79d686ed152b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44a3f1b2c5511abedfb8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q4f0bb34087f097c1d072","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":656,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-21T23:09:22.671Z","text":"这不是很正常吗 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enterprise 是犯罪企业，所有被告推动成立的实体都是他的替代自我（或者其他什么玩意名词，反正就是属于郭，或者就是郭），包括那个持有玛瓦庄园的实体，检方为证明这个，最有力的论证就是g系列成进入了破产财团这一法律事实，其它的什么资金流向图那些东西，陪审团根本看不懂。luc调查了快四年，那些实体到底与被告什么关系，拱卒和朱莉娅的债权是否为真，破产扣押是否遵循正当程序，luc最清楚，与财产有关的事情，luc是必须的被强制传唤的证人。luc不出庭，就是无效辩护。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e1470b8aba5944c5e40","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q76d5943c5ed97842017f","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":667,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-22T00:04:58.366Z","text":"我听了小羊还有小皮匠的节目，他们现在好像想把去二巡的自诉人和853n混在一起","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76d5943c5ed97842017f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qf3e82b6de3fab47c107d","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":668,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-22T00:06:26.014Z","text":"然后说螺丝哥是853n，特别主事官是要来管去二巡的人的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3e82b6de3fab47c107d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q4b2e660fbd74556d4058","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":669,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-22T00:06:32.690Z","text":"受害者为0是[屏蔽词]瞎扯","edited":true,"reply_to":"q8e1470b8aba5944c5e40","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b2e660fbd74556d4058","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e1470b8aba5944c5e40","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q76fcea4a499b3f3f9aab","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":670,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-22T00:06:37.859Z","text":"阿哲那里就有","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76fcea4a499b3f3f9aab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q184167f5a973f0e46913","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":671,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-22T00:06:45.372Z","text":"这个和文悦大[屏蔽词]他们的口径是一样的","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q184167f5a973f0e46913","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q406ac368141b021cfaca","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":672,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-22T00:06:57.419Z","text":"受害者至少几百人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4b2e660fbd74556d4058","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q406ac368141b021cfaca","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b2e660fbd74556d4058","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q63f7763b7a39dbf344d7","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":673,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-22T00:07:06.408Z","text":"小羊却说只有5个人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63f7763b7a39dbf344d7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qdaeb8ec4f5b0bbbbd024","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":674,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-22T00:07:06.631Z","text":"南区主事官还能管到二巡哦？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdaeb8ec4f5b0bbbbd024","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q33c689a26adbff1fd3f6","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":675,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-22T00:07:25.924Z","text":"那南区的书记员是不是可以管最高法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q33c689a26adbff1fd3f6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q61d59bffa9fd879e64dd","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":676,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-22T00:07:34.825Z","text":"小羊也说螺丝哥是853n","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdaeb8ec4f5b0bbbbd024","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61d59bffa9fd879e64dd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdaeb8ec4f5b0bbbbd024","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qa2b02337de7f8ff9cac0","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":677,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-22T00:07:44.033Z","text":"螺丝哥是受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa2b02337de7f8ff9cac0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q4e977d092408bf130dae","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":678,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-22T00:07:51.582Z","text":"他们这几个口径是一样的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e977d092408bf130dae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q8f65754e6ce92615b727","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":679,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-22T00:07:55.170Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f65754e6ce92615b727","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q9372eeeb586289be25bc","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":680,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-22T00:19:40.758Z","text":"这8个强制令能推翻案子了吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8f65754e6ce92615b727","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9372eeeb586289be25bc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f65754e6ce92615b727","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q8d8c5917fef37a1cc188","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":681,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-22T00:27:43.921Z","text":"https://x.com/wanli198964/status/2035453966545563994?s=20","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d8c5917fef37a1cc188","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q2cd8e92d4d0fd16d893a","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":682,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-22T00:28:22.516Z","text":"牛逼","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2cd8e92d4d0fd16d893a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q06cbc931d51af4193fba","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":683,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-03-22T00:45:15.991Z","text":"八个二巡？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9372eeeb586289be25bc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06cbc931d51af4193fba","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9372eeeb586289be25bc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q8b120856a83ac3676b44","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":684,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-22T00:49:28.219Z","text":"不是有8个了吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b120856a83ac3676b44","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qa086084a68ba0ccec6ed","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":685,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-03-22T00:49:45.479Z","text":"我怎么觉得是七个？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa086084a68ba0ccec6ed","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qaf078d1cba56f85ce1a2","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":686,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-22T01:00:16.094Z","text":"那我记错了 我想成为第8个 不知道怎么弄","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf078d1cba56f85ce1a2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q918668bf3c690bb5488e","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":687,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-03-22T01:10:42.243Z","text":"猪脑子编的故事都比她好。什么乱七八糟的 - 老郭如果要认罪， 就等不到今天了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8d8c5917fef37a1cc188","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q918668bf3c690bb5488e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d8c5917fef37a1cc188","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qeb67827461b8fba22c70","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":688,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-03-22T01:11:43.858Z","text":"郭在哪个文件里提出不高于20年？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb67827461b8fba22c70","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q02d11968e411d4e6067d","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":689,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-22T01:13:05.877Z","text":"这个应该瞎扯吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8d8c5917fef37a1cc188","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02d11968e411d4e6067d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d8c5917fef37a1cc188","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q2a5d2a2be6c2ddc6a900","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":690,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-22T01:16:09.920Z","text":"我有时间写了 帮我问问瑞恩思路","edited":false,"reply_to":"q02d11968e411d4e6067d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a5d2a2be6c2ddc6a900","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02d11968e411d4e6067d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qf17f21ffab6bf7cc7abc","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":691,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-22T01:26:07.454Z","text":"朱大妈认为郭不会少于50年","edited":false,"reply_to":"q02d11968e411d4e6067d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf17f21ffab6bf7cc7abc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q02d11968e411d4e6067d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qa355df68a4d9dc707fcf","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":692,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-22T01:26:20.744Z","text":"你说25年都少了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa355df68a4d9dc707fcf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q952d7bab62b4e8e00dad","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":693,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-22T01:27:29.306Z","text":"如果最后郭被判50年，“战友”们会怎么样？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q952d7bab62b4e8e00dad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qdaedfc2802b329728df4","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":694,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-22T01:29:15.500Z","text":"哈哈 瑞恩说 50年最好","edited":false,"reply_to":"q952d7bab62b4e8e00dad","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdaedfc2802b329728df4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q952d7bab62b4e8e00dad","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q77c03741511ef9eac0e1","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":695,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-22T01:29:35.152Z","text":"判的越多 才能显示瑞恩的水平😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77c03741511ef9eac0e1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qeab1bee908009d74ed3c","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":696,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-22T01:29:51.318Z","text":"现在已经可以确定郭的律师是鬼，这是肯定的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeab1bee908009d74ed3c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q761415227898005ef56a","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":697,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-22T01:30:11.122Z","text":"瑞恩刚刚又给我打电话了 给我瞟了一眼最新的文件 我只能说","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeab1bee908009d74ed3c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q761415227898005ef56a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeab1bee908009d74ed3c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qb73c9b8d0c0493f0cc27","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":698,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-22T01:30:31.327Z","text":"律师的无效辩护可能也超越美国建国以来的最大值了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb73c9b8d0c0493f0cc27","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qb655a21ba163bbf1dadc","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":699,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-03-22T01:30:43.596Z","text":"用共谋犯组织的材料，让被告多了串谋的罪吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb655a21ba163bbf1dadc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q132cbf07e0de459bf841","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":700,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-22T01:30:44.213Z","text":"我是说战友们会怎么样，不是瑞恩会怎么样","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdaedfc2802b329728df4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q132cbf07e0de459bf841","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdaedfc2802b329728df4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qd64b12a1047163432de4","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":701,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-22T01:32:47.863Z","text":"帮我问问瑞恩 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郭出来要分股份了，","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa4856caabaa7e3fcf89f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91ac3a7513c5017db3b0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa4856caabaa7e3fcf89f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q7cae3b7ba08b538ce848","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":704,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-22T01:37:21.223Z","text":"辩方是回应检方的文件，检方说的就是给长岛的电话，可能没有提到之后的电话，具体要看检方以后的量刑文件","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa4856caabaa7e3fcf89f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7cae3b7ba08b538ce848","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa4856caabaa7e3fcf89f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q47ccb4600cde63f9bea1","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":705,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-22T01:38:01.496Z","text":"如果检方量刑文件不提到给青藤的电话和会面，那基本可以确定这些电话和会面都是假的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47ccb4600cde63f9bea1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qcbc94edc1ba74ef0e1f2","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":706,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-22T01:40:19.304Z","text":"分个毛股份，郭出来也是散伙","edited":false,"reply_to":"q91ac3a7513c5017db3b0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcbc94edc1ba74ef0e1f2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91ac3a7513c5017db3b0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qb42727b046099002fe9f","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":707,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-22T01:40:23.643Z","text":"一毛钱没有","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb42727b046099002fe9f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qbf924de1f67ad52b45c7","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":708,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-22T01:46:45.025Z","text":"肯定之后一个电话都没有","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7cae3b7ba08b538ce848","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf924de1f67ad52b45c7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7cae3b7ba08b538ce848","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q0b399199684d1dd65abf","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":709,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-22T01:46:52.510Z","text":"不然检方会放过老郭？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b399199684d1dd65abf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q06381eb3dbc8bb9efb3a","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":710,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-22T01:58:27.127Z","text":"不剿匪了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcbc94edc1ba74ef0e1f2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06381eb3dbc8bb9efb3a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcbc94edc1ba74ef0e1f2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q6dbe55bfd22014dbfb4d","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":711,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-03-22T02:03:06.460Z","text":"您太低估郭文贵先生了。\n如果他这么弱，共匪就不会用一国之力搞他了。 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为革命失业牺牲了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf26be41d6ce24120ecb7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q0505ca0921b1d43ea4e9","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":715,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-22T02:06:29.687Z","text":"反正郭说他自己是灭共的，不是搞钱的。联盟农场是既搞政治又搞钱，最后结局可想而知","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf26be41d6ce24120ecb7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0505ca0921b1d43ea4e9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf26be41d6ce24120ecb7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q1acf988c1d493b2c2957","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":716,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-22T02:06:56.228Z","text":"郭不是说500币3孩吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1acf988c1d493b2c2957","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qf4314f07a725315c50b3","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":717,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-22T02:07:28.723Z","text":"500币3孩，也没多少钱啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1acf988c1d493b2c2957","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4314f07a725315c50b3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1acf988c1d493b2c2957","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qd8e35db13f1cfc42a65b","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":718,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-22T02:08:06.872Z","text":"养3孩起码得1000万吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8e35db13f1cfc42a65b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qe7c34281d0b8d4cfffef","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":719,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-22T02:08:17.718Z","text":"中国农村那么穷都能养三个孩子","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe1cda44b240e61d5e686","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe7c34281d0b8d4cfffef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q06eecc0365db0470bee9","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":720,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-22T02:08:36.368Z","text":"我靠 这不是耍流氓吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06eecc0365db0470bee9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qf207b21d071c98050b13","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":721,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-22T02:09:59.660Z","text":"新教 清教徒","edited":false,"reply_to":"q759fec4e16db6c2d5771","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf207b21d071c98050b13","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q759fec4e16db6c2d5771","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qeea5bc5dbf37f2d42dc5","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":722,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-22T02:10:45.829Z","text":"那你们在追求什么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeea5bc5dbf37f2d42dc5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q89aff5e64aaffce8567b","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":723,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-22T02:10:57.452Z","text":"民主 自由？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q89aff5e64aaffce8567b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qd4728d39b518e85f378f","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":724,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-22T02:11:02.529Z","text":"公平？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4728d39b518e85f378f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q7985a53b4337b885c224","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":725,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-22T02:12:39.182Z","text":"四个实体 GTV GCLUB farm-loan HEX\n都算到郭头上了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8e1470b8aba5944c5e40","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7985a53b4337b885c224","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e1470b8aba5944c5e40","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q890181243eef5ac254ca","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":726,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-22T02:13:43.688Z","text":"是G enterprises 的受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4b2e660fbd74556d4058","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q890181243eef5ac254ca","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b2e660fbd74556d4058","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q7afc3012606e6059f767","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":727,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-22T02:13:59.980Z","text":"算郭头上又怎么样 损失还不是算在我们身上","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7afc3012606e6059f767","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q50ca58fb099dbcdf7acf","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":728,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-22T02:14:08.674Z","text":"自由 > 公平 > 民主","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeea5bc5dbf37f2d42dc5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50ca58fb099dbcdf7acf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeea5bc5dbf37f2d42dc5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q90132fdef55165c96f32","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":729,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-22T02:14:57.846Z","text":"钱都没有 哪来的自由 喝西北风啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90132fdef55165c96f32","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qc892374c1d59baf0c513","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":730,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-22T02:16:06.597Z","text":"螺丝哥的追求是200万","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc892374c1d59baf0c513","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q216e520f70024b3c9194","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":731,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-03-22T02:16:10.149Z","text":"这就是Rico啊，rico就是什么都算你头上","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7985a53b4337b885c224","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q216e520f70024b3c9194","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7985a53b4337b885c224","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q3bcf9e679073c2b6ae2d","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":732,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-22T02:17:03.817Z","text":"俗称 炮灰","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3bcf9e679073c2b6ae2d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q8f495e912e911f111a3e","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":733,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-22T02:17:17.365Z","text":"进了两次派出所 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是他们想故意营造的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7e6ab96a43072852539","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q2c94cdf48d106acb87d2","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":746,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-22T02:47:04.584Z","text":"这三个律师执业生涯结束了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c94cdf48d106acb87d2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q09452bd7644db90255ea","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":747,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-22T02:52:54.109Z","text":"蚂蚁是真惨","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q09452bd7644db90255ea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q023935703bf82237347c","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":748,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-03-22T02:53:55.880Z","text":"南区量刑他们是必做的，现在在搞针对上诉的？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q023935703bf82237347c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q3700454605937a5828e8","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":749,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-22T02:54:23.571Z","text":"上诉失败 那喜国人真完了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3700454605937a5828e8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qfa529471dfafd350cc4a","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":750,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-22T02:54:48.501Z","text":"我说过","edited":false,"reply_to":"q023935703bf82237347c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa529471dfafd350cc4a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q023935703bf82237347c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qa85ed1120545d53f1132","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":751,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-22T02:54:59.314Z","text":"鸟的KPI是定罪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa85ed1120545d53f1132","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qcaa01d2705f6a8ef9b70","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":752,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-22T02:55:04.782Z","text":"青 是量刑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcaa01d2705f6a8ef9b70","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q7f3eb34c0559e043d5d9","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":753,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-22T02:55:49.910Z","text":"对应检方的 也有相应KPI","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f3eb34c0559e043d5d9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q2d8cd5a6400e2095e9aa","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":754,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-22T02:56:55.789Z","text":"辩方 要么傻 要么装瞎\n托雷斯 只想要量刑 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没有用","edited":false,"reply_to":"q60aa33895c1c2090b001","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa834bd8fa283359fe963","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60aa33895c1c2090b001","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q346af813621857114a2f","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":761,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-03-22T03:08:05.974Z","text":"​4. 为什么说“不拿证据扯灭共是无用的”？\n​你的看法非常专业。在法律上，“灭共”是动机（Motive），而“损失金额”是事实（Fact）。\n​法官可以不听你的动机，但她必须核实事实。\n​如果辩方在 Fatico 听证会上能把账本摊开，证明资金流向是透明的、存在大量退款、且所谓“受害者”不承认受害，那么政府的“诈骗”大厦就失去了地基。\n​5. 辩方的策略意图\n​辩方在 822 号文件中提出 Fatico 听证会，是给托雷斯法官出了一个巨大的难题：\n​如果准许听证： 账目一旦公开对质，政府那套粗糙的“13 亿流入即损失”的算法极大概率会被击穿。\n​如果拒绝听证： 面对如此巨大的事实争议（数千投资者否认受害）而拒绝举证，这为二巡法院撤销判决、发回重审提供了完美的理由。\n​总结\n​Fatico 听证会就是你想要的那个“查账程序”。 它要求政府不能只给一个总数，必须具体说明：\n​哪个投资者被骗了？\n​骗了多少钱？\n​为什么在投资者否认被骗的情况下，政府仍将其认定为损失？\n​如果法官真的想维护司法公正，她必须开启 Fatico 听证会。正如你所说，只有把账查清楚了，谁是真犯罪、谁是真清白、谁是假报案，才能在法律记录里定格。这是量刑阶段最硬的一块骨头。\n就这个要求Fatico听证有用。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q346af813621857114a2f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q7deabeb173ac5a81e00f","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":762,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-22T03:12:25.179Z","text":"等上诉就完事儿了 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这个更有用","edited":false,"reply_to":"q346af813621857114a2f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9990acc6b19117e0d901","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q346af813621857114a2f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q9e60d72a20cf9dd6ab5f","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":765,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-03-22T03:19:16.846Z","text":"没有听证，那些东西不能成为法庭记录的证据。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9990acc6b19117e0d901","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e60d72a20cf9dd6ab5f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9990acc6b19117e0d901","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q06dba825c1c7f38cbb7a","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":766,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-03-22T03:20:03.158Z","text":"就是大家各执一词时，就需要听证。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06dba825c1c7f38cbb7a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q4a0edaaeb98e885ad909","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":767,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-22T03:20:47.974Z","text":"其实没法查\n实体之间 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才是老郭反击的开始","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q183b20461440067c2961","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q67022cac163f1d18a3c9","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":773,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-22T03:27:33.547Z","text":"辩方居然也没提Luc","edited":false,"reply_to":"q42fc3e78cc171cd6564e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67022cac163f1d18a3c9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42fc3e78cc171cd6564e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q08561f422ca2022dfd9e","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":774,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-22T03:28:11.617Z","text":"提Mahwah 不提产权问题 特别是Taurus公司 还在和Luc打官司","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08561f422ca2022dfd9e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qed207eb70554c974a788","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":775,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-22T03:30:37.058Z","text":"刁民本来是个爆破雷 被辩方硬生生压制成了一个闷雷 哑炮","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed207eb70554c974a788","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q8e1278003197a7732c3f","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":776,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-22T03:32:55.925Z","text":"郭 是不是可以学SBF 自诉","edited":false,"reply_to":"q183b20461440067c2961","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e1278003197a7732c3f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q183b20461440067c2961","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q133f7592375534739bd6","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":777,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-22T03:33:07.340Z","text":"他英文不好啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8e1278003197a7732c3f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q133f7592375534739bd6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e1278003197a7732c3f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q3eb72fba942a1ba4d7fe","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":778,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-22T03:35:49.417Z","text":"吃了文化的亏","edited":false,"reply_to":"q133f7592375534739bd6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3eb72fba942a1ba4d7fe","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q133f7592375534739bd6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qb2f08ddc82a8ad89eca7","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":779,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-22T03:36:33.793Z","text":"他多次说过最后悔的就是英文没学好","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2f08ddc82a8ad89eca7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qae00776076e3f9543484","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":780,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-22T03:47:30.607Z","text":"其实都是一帮人 下一梯队 掩护上一波 有序撤退","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae00776076e3f9543484","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q7741b6bbac0c45c30161","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":781,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-22T03:52:11.598Z","text":"青跑了就赢了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7741b6bbac0c45c30161","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qbc3ad5a12dfce752f8ff","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":782,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-22T03:52:16.489Z","text":"没跑还不一定","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc3ad5a12dfce752f8ff","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q7c53b876be375b66af33","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":783,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-22T03:58:14.033Z","text":"https://x.com/toukuip82522t/status/2035491309469773849?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7741b6bbac0c45c30161","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c53b876be375b66af33","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7741b6bbac0c45c30161","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qd3828709078e4b8bc8c8","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":784,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-03-22T04:35:09.005Z","text":"54. 我愿意在这些程序中公开作证，并披露我的全名。 我在 2026 年 2 月 26 日与辩护律师会面时确认了这一意愿。我完全明白这可能给仍生活在中国的家人和朋友带来的后果。 2023 年 6 月，在我决定来到美国后，我切断了与家人和朋友的联系，目的是为了在我站出来公开此事后，尽量减少中国政府对他们可能造成的伤害。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3828709078e4b8bc8c8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q4e5b1e9342edae0b15ae","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":785,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-03-22T04:35:36.665Z","text":"2023 年 6 月，我决定将相关信息发送给代表辩方联盟的律师，询问是否会对还原事实和真相有所帮助。 我收到了……","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e5b1e9342edae0b15ae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qe72f94a4499a777c2b7c","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":786,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-03-22T04:35:58.569Z","text":"他不知道联盟是该案中的共谋犯吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe72f94a4499a777c2b7c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qc24f740601dac9f7940c","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":787,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-03-22T04:44:57.605Z","text":"但是他是真爱郭的这个可以确认吧，搞不懂他怎么会恨我们这里的想翻案的人，本该是一个战壕的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc24f740601dac9f7940c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qc77bcbc23818afea63ee","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":788,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-22T04:57:36.518Z","text":"联盟是另外两个律师","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1dc7d4b7444124008ff5","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc77bcbc23818afea63ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q811d9f4ef98ed8f98ca3","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":789,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-03-22T05:10:00.909Z","text":"https://x.com/sifan198964/status/2035546528174019032?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q811d9f4ef98ed8f98ca3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qbfd0dff8c03eec38f1ec","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":790,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-03-22T05:44:36.225Z","text":"墙国刁民叫[删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":"qf20ebd7424e7886e72b7","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbfd0dff8c03eec38f1ec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q55e7fc6617a2f1612bab","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":791,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-03-22T05:54:25.895Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 郭文贵说过多次程序不正义。你想帮郭文贵提交证据也需要程序正义，程序不正义提交证据，证据可能被污染甚至作废。联盟农场是潜在被告共谋犯，通过联盟农场组织操控提交的证据，涉嫌严重的程序不正义！比如墙国刁民这种傻缺玩意，在青藤张永兵的操控之下提交的证据，能够帮到郭文贵一丢丢啊？天天喊着爱七哥的爱郭贼们，麻烦你们去问问你们八辈祖宗，这种提交证据的方式合适合法吗？尤其是青藤张永兵一声令下成百上千封证据或者支持信水漫金山淹没辩护律师的邮箱，这种证据，能够合法吗？群里有没有墙国刁民的小号啊？你去问问你祖宗八辈，去问问你没有变成人共产党嘴里你的猴子祖先，你这种通过联盟操控提交的证据，能对你七哥有任何有利的方面啊？[屏蔽词]或者坏逼，并且是极端的[屏蔽词]或者坏逼，墙国刁民，你二选一吧！","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55e7fc6617a2f1612bab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q3c7bc8b94549e5f357f4","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":792,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-03-22T06:02:41.991Z","text":"能够影响投资者或者受害者群体的，除了郭文贵，就是联盟农场那些头头或者大咖，最多再加上羊帮质疑帮或者小哲子帮。这个群里的人，根本就不能够成为自诉帮，最核心的就是这里的人自己代表自己并且对自己的行为负责任，参加自诉的人，很多都是被联盟农场拉黑除名的，并且有砸锅也有挺郭，有要钱有不要钱的。\n\n至少我不爱郭文贵，我也从来没有说过我爱什么郭文贵。我鼓励所有人包括砸锅的包括真心认为郭文贵就是诈骗犯的受害者采取百分之百合法的司法行动参与郭文贵刑事案件，找检方登记或者举报，找辩方提交证据，自诉提交证据或者请愿或者要钱，都应该遵守法律程序正义。\n\n那些嘴里喊着爱七哥的投资者或者，你们天天跟着联盟农场混一起，你们哪怕问问机器人，这合法吗？连问问机器人你们也不会啊？有些人天生就是[屏蔽词]大[屏蔽词]，有些人天生就是坏逼大坏逼。你们属于哪一种啊？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c7bc8b94549e5f357f4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q445800d4938c31c2ba34","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":793,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-22T06:26:57.413Z","text":"就两页纸 没有公章 真假要打个问号\n判决书最后还要有 法官 检察官 被告 签名 手印 \n个人签名最重要","edited":false,"reply_to":"q811d9f4ef98ed8f98ca3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q445800d4938c31c2ba34","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q811d9f4ef98ed8f98ca3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qe32ce595edbb97cfa499","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":794,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-22T06:36:05.551Z","text":"1989年的判决书 油墨印刷 能放到现在 纸张也要泛黄","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe32ce595edbb97cfa499","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q2b808a66750b041c13f4","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":795,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-22T06:38:14.435Z","text":"墙内既往法院案件 影印扫描存档 差不多在2008年才大规模开始 具体到这个县级市 可能要2010年后 距1989纸质存档 也有30年","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b808a66750b041c13f4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qb294061cd470a77fc99c","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":796,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-22T06:41:19.212Z","text":"存档的卷宗盖章 为了防止伪造 删减 章还会盖在整本卷宗的 侧面","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb294061cd470a77fc99c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qaba658502053e0817253","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":797,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-22T06:50:21.599Z","text":"我操 我找到一个案子有几百个人提交强制令🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaba658502053e0817253","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q05ff1dd18667d2a45269","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":798,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-22T06:51:24.479Z","text":"哦但那是一系列的不同案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05ff1dd18667d2a45269","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"q940edac3a05867deeabf","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":799,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-03-22T07:10:28.484Z","text":"什么意思？那个案子最后什么结果","edited":false,"reply_to":"q05ff1dd18667d2a45269","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q940edac3a05867deeabf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05ff1dd18667d2a45269","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000091"},{"id":"qbc490fced540b055e2ac","batch_id":"batch-000091","seq":800,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-22T07:10:41.726Z","text":"不是 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