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吃醋没","edited":true,"reply_to":"q0dc08be00b341b87ff38","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0268c0e5ed37d4e950ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000093"},{"id":"qddc9e96e279a6858c017","batch_id":"batch-000093","seq":15,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-03-24T02:20:49.658Z","text":"就是跟第二批一样，和检方，法官一起表演“强烈对抗”，程序没有问题。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q157962abb8ebf5544848","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qddc9e96e279a6858c017","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q157962abb8ebf5544848","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000093"},{"id":"q63f6facb23b6603a1ddb","batch_id":"batch-000093","seq":16,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-24T02:21:46.604Z","text":"各位 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xin***］ 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青背后的人 看得出来","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd6747be83000b2bc3bd3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd44c786c2a8d84259acb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6747be83000b2bc3bd3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000093"},{"id":"q43bf86fd2b2d7f086d19","batch_id":"batch-000093","seq":39,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-24T02:45:10.357Z","text":"所以从不提王 余 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him***］ tony可以把资金全部打翻 你看着吧","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf51859b5f579638ddf6e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000093"},{"id":"qeb11e5ff61c053a790a8","batch_id":"batch-000093","seq":53,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-24T02:47:52.321Z","text":"他们的重点是 保金额 到破产案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb11e5ff61c053a790a8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000093"},{"id":"q258c28b06a6865f75c5d","batch_id":"batch-000093","seq":54,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-24T02:48:29.578Z","text":"25和50 有区别吗 对郭","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd7b60891761f19c4e7f5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q258c28b06a6865f75c5d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd7b60891761f19c4e7f5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000093"},{"id":"q73f8875f882ce008bb35","batch_id":"batch-000093","seq":55,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-24T02:49:05.975Z","text":"猴年马月的事 万一过几年 郭就狱中没了呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73f8875f882ce008bb35","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000093"},{"id":"q4a1d64e067eddcf14665","batch_id":"batch-000093","seq":56,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-24T02:49:26.838Z","text":"整个G集团 到破产案 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张永兵 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瑞恩2天就干出了24页","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5ca883427aaa5c663ba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000093"},{"id":"q833bcbab3c524cb7f557","batch_id":"batch-000093","seq":118,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-24T06:53:42.041Z","text":"取了呦","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf617e2793f7c756ddd97","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q833bcbab3c524cb7f557","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf617e2793f7c756ddd97","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000093"},{"id":"q0cb533c12d80b13bb96f","batch_id":"batch-000093","seq":119,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-24T06:54:20.305Z","text":"接下去检方的资金很好打","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0cb533c12d80b13bb96f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000093"},{"id":"q9cc5dbb13b359641e27d","batch_id":"batch-000093","seq":120,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-24T07:01:27.028Z","text":"不是要安抚人心吗？怎么又开始往身上揽了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q561d6597643534d6a243","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9cc5dbb13b359641e27d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q561d6597643534d6a243","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000093"},{"id":"q35a592234d3b01ad8626","batch_id":"batch-000093","seq":121,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-24T07:01:46.700Z","text":"早就神交了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q13e7f8c35851528a31c1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35a592234d3b01ad8626","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13e7f8c35851528a31c1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000093"},{"id":"q06a95a10452bd5c81d76","batch_id":"batch-000093","seq":122,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-24T07:02:51.333Z","text":"他不出来，谁肯跑啊，这么多年培育的傻韭菜","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8b71f207fa00e9d9a88b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06a95a10452bd5c81d76","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b71f207fa00e9d9a88b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000093"},{"id":"qf2daa398676f18508766","batch_id":"batch-000093","seq":123,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-24T07:20:47.700Z","text":"要等到庭审才找证人？逗小孩儿呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9165465ea31dc050ef59","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2daa398676f18508766","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9165465ea31dc050ef59","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000093"},{"id":"qfd8742f431ad8fd2db93","batch_id":"batch-000093","seq":124,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-24T07:26:01.453Z","text":"刁民其实也是个垃圾证人，他啥证据没有，就一张嘴","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe15b75f9e557ada46eee","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd8742f431ad8fd2db93","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe15b75f9e557ada46eee","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000093"},{"id":"q77d7e21671b60ebd87d9","batch_id":"batch-000093","seq":125,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-24T07:27:16.845Z","text":"受害人超过10个就够了，损失多多益善","edited":false,"reply_to":"q23747b82d1f8da37a345","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77d7e21671b60ebd87d9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23747b82d1f8da37a345","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000093"},{"id":"q511127b2bd166e8df58c","batch_id":"batch-000093","seq":126,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-24T07:31:57.892Z","text":"只要喜交所有一个人承认受害者，这一群就都归为一个受害者？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q920e889591e487a537d1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q511127b2bd166e8df58c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q920e889591e487a537d1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000093"},{"id":"qf7f0f327617b44e6b9ee","batch_id":"batch-000093","seq":127,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-24T07:34:22.620Z","text":"因为无关紧要，得罪不了检方，又显得自己很敬业","edited":false,"reply_to":"q39cb4f470e99ef1a79c8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf7f0f327617b44e6b9ee","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discus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喜联储 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说是美国司法问题😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q45e1e56e50ba90b05cf2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a5706240b5b77cb2cba","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45e1e56e50ba90b05cf2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000093"},{"id":"q6f44dcfb8403c50f26eb","batch_id":"batch-000093","seq":179,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-03-24T12:43:16.491Z","text":"双方对叫床兰的盘问我没有全部看完，仅仅从我看了的那部分，它确实有说它因为参与爆料革命，家人受到威胁，估计也被辩方问出，投资g系列也会受到威胁。辩方在盘问易建虎也在主张因为中共的威胁，李亚的证词不可靠，但托雷斯说不能类推。tony的文件出现后，像李亚这种在庭审中承认担心中共威胁的证人的证词不可靠，就成立了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q62665e1553355ceacba6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f44dcfb8403c50f26eb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62665e1553355ceacba6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000093"},{"id":"q1606c5989608fa0acc3c","batch_id":"batch-000093","seq":180,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-24T12:45:42.762Z","text":"都出来好几个了还不能类推","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6f44dcfb8403c50f26eb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1606c5989608fa0acc3c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f44dcfb8403c50f26eb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000093"},{"id":"q8cad38eba1215eb1ce13","batch_id":"batch-000093","seq":181,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-24T12:46:28.850Z","text":"自己去看看别只听他说，他的截图里根本没有李娅的内容","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe80e25ed5e080492ece8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8cad38eba1215eb1ce13","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe80e25ed5e080492ece8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000093"},{"id":"q176efd19b039ff7cdb3e","batch_id":"batch-000093","seq":182,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-24T12:47:39.769Z","text":"说了啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8cad38eba1215eb1ce13","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q176efd19b039ff7cdb3e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8cad38eba1215eb1ce13","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000093"},{"id":"q99bd78445ad5208c36a5","batch_id":"batch-000093","seq":183,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-24T12:48:28.775Z","text":"没说她报假案啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99bd78445ad5208c36a5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000093"},{"id":"qfd9308a8d87adec2eb0e","batch_id":"batch-000093","seq":184,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-24T12:48:47.294Z","text":"只是收到了威胁","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd9308a8d87adec2eb0e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000093"},{"id":"q2e6b1a350d772fcacedc","batch_id":"batch-000093","seq":185,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-24T12:48:53.713Z","text":"如果受胁迫的情况下作证基本就是做假证","edited":false,"reply_to":"q99bd78445ad5208c36a5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e6b1a350d772fcacedc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99bd78445ad5208c36a5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000093"},{"id":"qa555b4e94ba52a40071c","batch_id":"batch-000093","seq":186,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-24T12:49:48.299Z","text":"但陪审团仍然判有罪了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa555b4e94ba52a40071c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000093"},{"id":"q56eeb6a95082ade68ab4","batch_id":"batch-000093","seq":187,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-24T12:50:21.869Z","text":"易和李都被威胁，陪审团了解这个吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56eeb6a95082ade68ab4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000093"},{"id":"qc2c959e786635eda029b","batch_id":"batch-000093","seq":188,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-24T12:50:53.788Z","text":"Sebrina他们有没有提这个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc2c959e786635eda029b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000093"},{"id":"q1f5ea20150171bdc43ff","batch_id":"batch-000093","seq":189,"speaker":"kir***","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