{"id":"batch-000098","number":98,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-04-05T01:28:33.976Z","date_end":"2026-04-07T11:56:55.679Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 098 (Apr 5, 2026 – Apr 7, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Discussions continually clash over verifiable evidence and legal accountability regarding financial and organizational ties. Early exchanges debate spy allegations, SEC asset freezes around HEX, and fund flows involving ACA Capital and farm loans, contrasting victim narratives against alleged conspiracies. Participants further dispute anti-CCP justifications versus political weaponization, questioning responsibilities among key figures. 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loan、HEX等财务节点和庭审文件成为高频核验对象；有人坚持受害叙事，也有人提出“上岸共谋”与更大骗局。中段又大量转向“灭共/司法政治化”解释，推动对王、余、郭及相关组织关系的归责争议。尾段则从口号化互喷回到程序层面，涉及自诉资格、检方证人身份、卷宗透明度、陪审团与上诉路径、以及是否转入报案和程序行动，群体分歧未有统一收敛。","guide":[{"title":"开场分歧：特务定性与CIPA/17c关联假设","message_ids":["q18284bd82b08c825ec66","qe28c24657b113a4564fb","q58fa82e1ab77142b4028"]},{"title":"SEC与资产冻结叙事之争：HEX相关行为是否被解释成普通调查","message_ids":["qa65057f0475795c9e829","q4e79ded5a409e7070a25"]},{"title":"资金链核心：ACA Capital、farm 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[删节：隐私信息] 离开了 **郭文贵法庭文件，不禁言不删帖**。希望他一路好走。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01579d68ca7d3462a422","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q400749d58bc68d76d9bc","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":431,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-05T13:20:20.404Z","text":"［用户 hah***］ \n\n郭文贵案件讨论群群规\n\n1. 本群主聊天区仅用于讨论郭文贵相关案件事项。与案件无关的内容，请移至刷屏房间或对骂房间发布。如有成员持续在主聊天区发表与主题无关的内容或进行刷屏行为，经三次提醒仍不改正的，将被限制仅可进入刷屏房间或对骂房间。\n\n2. 被限制至刷屏房间或对骂房间的成员，如后续交流表现良好，可视情况解除限制。但如通过退群后重新入群的方式规避管理措施的，本群将直接予以拉黑处理，永久禁止入群（经群主特别允许者除外）。\n\n3. 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证据包\n\n提交清单、邮寄与邮件凭证、书面查询与回复、通话备忘录、在案动议。\n\n限定请求范围\n\n只请求：立案/密封立案/转交法官/澄清流程\n\n不请求实体裁决或分配结果。\n\n措辞克制、聚焦程序\n\n避免指控动机；强调记录完整性与法定程序。\n\n简要结论\n\n\n完成以上步骤后再提：成功率显著提高\n\n关键不在于“是否不公”，而在于是否给了地区法院明确、可执行的纠正机会","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53f644845d0891e489ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q2f4667dc3206e3336962","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":433,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-05T13:42:52.463Z","text":"乱码妹在这群有小号 可以看看 安小东说的有没有道理啊 可以出来讨论讨论\nhttps://x.com/anxiaodong777/status/2040753551735971850?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f4667dc3206e3336962","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qd10981365f0f03db8dcf","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":434,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-05T14:00:57.633Z","text":"早就该办了他","edited":false,"reply_to":"q699e3cb193d4902d7ce9","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd10981365f0f03db8dcf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q985c5eea8f54d5b51592","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":435,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-05T14:17:52.481Z","text":"参议院又开始作妖了\n\nhttps://x.com/mubeitech/status/2040403018647036278?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q985c5eea8f54d5b51592","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qd52f319c7270d3ab6108","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":436,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T14:23:16.434Z","text":"赢了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd52f319c7270d3ab6108","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q5fcd4e2e8db87a655fe5","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":437,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-05T14:24:00.680Z","text":"这是打着挺郭的招牌要跟农场划清界限？\n\nhttps://x.com/panshirock77/status/2040756057673191488?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5fcd4e2e8db87a655fe5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q87952f400bc0946c7383","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":438,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-05T14:26:36.470Z","text":"羊群也在跟它们统一口径\n\nhttps://x.com/kk26400689/status/2040792705123451212?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87952f400bc0946c7383","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q7afe3a4bd90d94d3e0f9","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":439,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-05T14:27:22.709Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] \n这个群里 是最早预测了 鸟 王雪冰 会被卖掉的","edited":true,"reply_to":"q5fcd4e2e8db87a655fe5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7afe3a4bd90d94d3e0f9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5fcd4e2e8db87a655fe5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qf73ef0beab1f3e6c99ff","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":440,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-05T14:28:13.494Z","text":"把锅扣农场头上保联盟？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf73ef0beab1f3e6c99ff","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qe79bfa74171b4fbf5d05","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":441,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-05T14:29:27.226Z","text":"保余建明","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf73ef0beab1f3e6c99ff","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe79bfa74171b4fbf5d05","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf73ef0beab1f3e6c99ff","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qd6e0282eaafba9a28d55","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":442,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-05T14:29:52.709Z","text":"保喜交所","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6e0282eaafba9a28d55","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q933a48604bdcca757ed4","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":443,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-05T14:30:02.600Z","text":"继续骗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q933a48604bdcca757ed4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q63b9fc4efc4c0b5b6dcc","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":444,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T14:32:07.192Z","text":"这种话说出来真的是不要脸 借贷 郭不知道吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5fcd4e2e8db87a655fe5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63b9fc4efc4c0b5b6dcc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5fcd4e2e8db87a655fe5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qeb524b6e27703bfb3981","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":445,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T14:33:40.205Z","text":"意思就是公司跑路了和老总没关系 都是法人的错","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb524b6e27703bfb3981","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qbeda251fb973b58bd7f9","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":446,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T14:34:19.599Z","text":"房子烂尾都是许家印的错 和共匪一点关系没有","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbeda251fb973b58bd7f9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q00d3051bfde28e302e02","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":447,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-05T14:34:30.313Z","text":"郭怎么是老总","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeb524b6e27703bfb3981","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00d3051bfde28e302e02","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb524b6e27703bfb3981","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qbb8c32cb0cbe5895025a","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":448,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-05T14:35:29.767Z","text":"没看懂 你的意思是？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbeda251fb973b58bd7f9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb8c32cb0cbe5895025a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbeda251fb973b58bd7f9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q66a81221490f5a288e7f","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":449,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-05T14:35:32.243Z","text":"他没有资金调动权，没有人事任命权，没有最终决策权，怎么成了老总","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66a81221490f5a288e7f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q628534dbd142fe0e9cd8","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":450,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-05T14:36:22.854Z","text":"郭也不是政客，没有调动军队的能力，没有控制司法系统的能力，怎么和中共比？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q628534dbd142fe0e9cd8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qb0bcee945814b5373b91","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":451,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T14:36:43.556Z","text":"所以你是看中长岛才投的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0bcee945814b5373b91","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qb5b4d5233a58e683d2cb","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":452,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-05T14:37:45.698Z","text":"我还可以说我是看你宣传g系列才投的呢，你负责吗？ [删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":"qb0bcee945814b5373b91","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5b4d5233a58e683d2cb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0bcee945814b5373b91","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qb96d624975262d3ab6b4","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":453,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T14:38:00.310Z","text":"法理上你可以撇干净 难道我们是冲着农场投的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb96d624975262d3ab6b4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q0aed79ee46a787902a08","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":454,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-05T14:38:19.129Z","text":"宣传g系列的不只是郭吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0aed79ee46a787902a08","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qb1f98641c3c1cb0c112f","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":455,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-05T14:38:26.064Z","text":"宣传的人多了去了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1f98641c3c1cb0c112f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qf23ceef8c38c5bb01f28","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":456,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-05T14:38:39.449Z","text":"联盟农场的人没宣传吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf23ceef8c38c5bb01f28","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q32ef2ec4a84cea5ddfb6","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":457,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T14:38:41.290Z","text":"你这幅嘴脸和共匪有什么区别","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32ef2ec4a84cea5ddfb6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qc9d07dcf2d1b576529c5","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":458,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-05T14:39:11.722Z","text":"共匪什么嘴脸无所谓，共匪有权利，他就要负责","edited":false,"reply_to":"q32ef2ec4a84cea5ddfb6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9d07dcf2d1b576529c5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32ef2ec4a84cea5ddfb6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qb7d4caa4999b92722841","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":459,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-05T14:39:34.026Z","text":"共匪要是什么权利都没有，就算他嘴脸再丑陋，他也不用负责","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7d4caa4999b92722841","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q33e902867f987c498f02","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":460,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T14:39:41.120Z","text":"［用户 chu***］ 你是冲着联盟投的吗 [删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q33e902867f987c498f02","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q92ded70d2b736bf664f4","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":461,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-05T14:40:27.352Z","text":"那这么说明星做广告，都要负责所有的问题？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q33e902867f987c498f02","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q92ded70d2b736bf664f4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q33e902867f987c498f02","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q365ef4555feac59c4499","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":462,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T14:41:06.161Z","text":"你的意思是g系列是联盟的产品 郭替他们宣传","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q365ef4555feac59c4499","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q989a6b870a7dd639c6cb","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":463,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T14:41:10.445Z","text":"偷换概念？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q989a6b870a7dd639c6cb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qccd52f8ca43e8da49fb5","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":464,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-05T14:41:47.672Z","text":"那你的意思是明星做广告，等于那都是明星的产品？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q365ef4555feac59c4499","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qccd52f8ca43e8da49fb5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q365ef4555feac59c4499","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q0dcb7f231550df02ed70","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":465,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T14:42:40.393Z","text":"你简直比联盟还无耻🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0dcb7f231550df02ed70","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qdb7a5747ec38c995c3de","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":466,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-05T14:43:10.452Z","text":"你觉得联盟无耻，你去告联盟啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0dcb7f231550df02ed70","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb7a5747ec38c995c3de","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0dcb7f231550df02ed70","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qca7ab4f25025f526b62c","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":467,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T14:43:51.207Z","text":"你以为螺丝哥和瑞恩愿意参与这破事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca7ab4f25025f526b62c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q0ede7f4f8d8abc5fe1d5","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":468,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T14:44:02.711Z","text":"还不是被套牢了 身不由己","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ede7f4f8d8abc5fe1d5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q35855a9502192d6073e8","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":469,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T14:44:45.773Z","text":"我被骗钱 我变成无耻了 你什么逻辑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35855a9502192d6073e8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q5be9fcde82e0743414e3","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":470,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-05T14:44:51.360Z","text":"我看[删节：隐私信息]同学，你从爆料革命开始就和联盟混在一起，支持爆料革命,  我有理由怀疑你就是同案犯，宣传诈骗产品","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5be9fcde82e0743414e3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qdb7713713a902904915d","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":471,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T14:44:55.359Z","text":"问许家印要房子的人都无耻是吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb7713713a902904915d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qeb078cd7563bc67cae99","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":472,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-04-05T14:45:59.484Z","text":"老郭直播就说过了好人成不了事","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1ecf8ea9fd948d5da5d6","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb078cd7563bc67cae99","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qb82533cac7e4d76e85d6","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":473,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T14:46:38.811Z","text":"你可以说tdccp郭不知情 你他妈个逼 借贷你都想撇干净","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb82533cac7e4d76e85d6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q9e64e92f3c90eaf9094f","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":474,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-05T14:46:42.326Z","text":"你让我做我就能做啊？CCP给我军队管理权，司法调配权，我就考虑做","edited":false,"reply_to":"q63ff0601ce84e6a15d66","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e64e92f3c90eaf9094f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qd101ff2be8a5b72cef46","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":475,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-04-05T14:49:34.761Z","text":"以前九指Sara卷款跑路，老郭还搞了一个discord号去群里安慰，并声称会负责。现在他被关了，出来会负责的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb82533cac7e4d76e85d6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd101ff2be8a5b72cef46","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb82533cac7e4d76e85d6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qfd519253d81cd500db0a","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":476,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T14:49:38.978Z","text":"虽然你只能从法理上解决这个问题 指鹿为马还是人吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd519253d81cd500db0a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qfb96d7dcfc3c0e0c19bf","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":477,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-05T14:50:04.936Z","text":"一点权利没有，一分钱没拿，责任全都你付，这不就是背锅吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb96d7dcfc3c0e0c19bf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q31c2c0c4e0d8a299fce9","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":478,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T14:50:54.999Z","text":"你以后就说这两万人都是冲着联盟投的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31c2c0c4e0d8a299fce9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q2a9bd4a21f1df45cbfdd","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":479,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-04-05T14:51:06.050Z","text":"老郭不出来，你找谁负责呀？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a9bd4a21f1df45cbfdd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q68705887d7909a4eaa8c","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":480,"speaker":".an***","date":"2026-04-05T14:51:12.819Z","text":"自诉群体的讨论硕果累累，从一个人冲上去为自己和文贵先生讨说法到一群人自发跟上；从法律知识小白的群体到研究法律步步深入；从一脸懵圈到发现案中的猫腻和违法现象，大家都在过程中学习和成长，甚至研究的功夫一点不差专业律师，这就是在做中学的宝贵收获，这就是这个群的力量。群里不发言的人也在默默地学习和领悟，弄明白案情发展的来龙去脉以及文贵先生被司法围殴的群体画像。\n        司法欺诈，程序不正义，司法主权相抵触等问题是检方和法官都无法绕开的动摇案情根基的问题，目前的挖地雷行动已经快摸到了炸弹引线，如ACA公司被当成郭的家族公司，此公司侵吞的资金都算在了郭头上，但最后摸到ACA公司的受益人有误征，若真是这样大家就是摸到门了。另外，关于律师费的事情也要好好捋一捋，战友们给郭的保镖赞助的律师费怎么又摊到郭的头上了，而且还接近上亿美元，这些看似随口的造谣都是在把郭往火坑里推。其实，这就是误征和单违建连同律所和检方给郭布的围猎局，目标是把郭摁在监狱里，把战友们的钱统统拿走。郭先生与战友们在一起时灭爆小组是悄悄地进村，现在联盟被灭爆小组霸占也是误征布局的一环，所以战友们不要幻想能通过联盟拿回自己的投资。现在的局势就是救文贵先生就是救自己，救自己的投资就必须先让文贵先生获得自由。所以，用证据和事实击垮这个案子是自诉者们的自发抗议行动。\n        现在抓住几个点深入挖掘坏人埋的雷是关键，扭住检方证人李亚和鸟🐦很重要，因为他们身兼铁血组、农场主、联盟秘书长等身份，他们往郭身上泼污水很容易被定为rico。能证明李亚说谎她的证言将一文不值，如是，建立在她证言基础上的审判必然垮塌。越是到最后，越要不气馁，越战越勇，为强者加油💪💪💪。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68705887d7909a4eaa8c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qa0c623394a6f28cc20e5","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":481,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T14:53:25.263Z","text":"他做生意做了这么久 难道不懂人性 会跑不是必然的吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd101ff2be8a5b72cef46","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0c623394a6f28cc20e5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd101ff2be8a5b72cef46","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q7a86745ca1a865c5b2b1","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":482,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-05T14:54:26.226Z","text":"他老婆8套房还不知道怎么来的呢","edited":false,"reply_to":"q719da0f539392d279818","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a86745ca1a865c5b2b1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q1cc1fabaefb8c63d507e","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":483,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T14:54:26.828Z","text":"让他们跑 本来就是故意的呀","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1cc1fabaefb8c63d507e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qe0adc8ed342f9292cfaf","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":484,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-05T14:54:47.761Z","text":"说不定是宣传G系列诈骗产品的钱买的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0adc8ed342f9292cfaf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qf9893556093a65cbe6a5","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":485,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-05T14:54:56.200Z","text":"我觉得[删节：隐私信息]同学很可疑","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9893556093a65cbe6a5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q856dd66f40bc09dbb7df","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":486,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-05T14:55:45.014Z","text":"既然都是扣帽，不讲法理，就扣呗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q856dd66f40bc09dbb7df","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qd3f9b88f88081cf030c8","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":487,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-04-05T14:56:04.058Z","text":"在喜币之前已经有九指sara卷款跑路、苹果币作废的事了，你不也还往喜币冲吗🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1cc1fabaefb8c63d507e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3f9b88f88081cf030c8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1cc1fabaefb8c63d507e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qd5f6b07f3c10df4586a7","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":488,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T14:56:12.992Z","text":"郭利用你 你愿意感恩就感恩呗 你要强迫我们都感恩啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5f6b07f3c10df4586a7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q1f2bffb28082701370f5","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":489,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-04-05T14:57:13.022Z","text":"我懂当初一毛钱上到50多块美元太诱人了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd5f6b07f3c10df4586a7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f2bffb28082701370f5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5f6b07f3c10df4586a7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q85b50a4e3a42bc49c190","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":490,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T14:57:36.155Z","text":"螺丝哥也不爱郭 你要不要强迫螺丝哥也爱郭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85b50a4e3a42bc49c190","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q9ea19e5702beddccfe29","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":491,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-04-05T14:58:09.842Z","text":"当时50多块我也没有卖点🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ea19e5702beddccfe29","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q1812cf09dc8a940e35d7","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":492,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T14:58:30.386Z","text":"你郭叔叔让你拿住","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1812cf09dc8a940e35d7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qc9a287fa790c08c1e950","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":493,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T14:58:36.867Z","text":"听话照做不会吃亏","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9a287fa790c08c1e950","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qa500b6e11bf7f7ad423a","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":494,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T14:58:58.824Z","text":"50多块你养不了3孩","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa500b6e11bf7f7ad423a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q838656275debce9208e8","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":495,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-04-05T14:59:04.082Z","text":"你不也是差不多这个点进来的吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc9a287fa790c08c1e950","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q838656275debce9208e8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9a287fa790c08c1e950","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q06bc5bac21ce5b5e2b8c","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":496,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T14:59:22.622Z","text":"所以我拿住了呀","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06bc5bac21ce5b5e2b8c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qd765de43cd9c11da3d08","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":497,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T14:59:35.814Z","text":"现在已经是全世界最幸福的人了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd765de43cd9c11da3d08","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qc0a0ceb2c195f76dfd8d","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":498,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T14:59:41.770Z","text":"你难道不幸福吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0a0ceb2c195f76dfd8d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q964fbef55bfcb60328cb","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":499,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-05T15:01:56.250Z","text":"口口声声说郭利用你，你没利用郭吗？你没想过利用郭吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd5f6b07f3c10df4586a7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q964fbef55bfcb60328cb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5f6b07f3c10df4586a7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qfefca03c5cd6f641c716","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":500,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-05T15:02:13.687Z","text":"你没想过利用他，为什么一看他宣传，你就投资？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfefca03c5cd6f641c716","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q6cb0490089484cedc256","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":501,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-05T15:02:31.983Z","text":"瑞恩只投了二万，螺丝哥也是不是冲着钱来的。文悦走了，你变成了下一个[屏蔽词]。","edited":true,"reply_to":"q0ede7f4f8d8abc5fe1d5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6cb0490089484cedc256","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ede7f4f8d8abc5fe1d5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q10d72f61e5d4651d2dd4","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":502,"speaker":"him*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难道是为了全人类啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc07ad88f1cb74020448","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q7e1e055e79040939bc2f","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":507,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-05T15:03:55.617Z","text":"你就是很虚伪啊，明明是想利用郭赚钱，没赚到，就大骂郭","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe21d25b81846ae33a4dc","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e1e055e79040939bc2f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qd346ab6be52b132053f3","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":508,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-05T15:04:19.024Z","text":"而对于真正骗你钱的联盟农场，你啥也不敢做","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd346ab6be52b132053f3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q0ac67b938de745a4a782","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":509,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T15:04:52.215Z","text":"郭又不是3岁半 他不知道会出这事啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ac67b938de745a4a782","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qe673408edc50d7548911","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":510,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-05T15:05:12.353Z","text":"你也不是3岁半，投资前就没想到？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0ac67b938de745a4a782","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe673408edc50d7548911","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ac67b938de745a4a782","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qf4a095284914283286ab","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":511,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T15:05:35.331Z","text":"你怎么没想到","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4a095284914283286ab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qa898cc497d9786d1c9d3","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":512,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-05T15:05:45.233Z","text":"我想个毛","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf4a095284914283286ab","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa898cc497d9786d1c9d3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4a095284914283286ab","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q26728b4ffc8447fc9aab","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":513,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-05T15:05:54.016Z","text":"我就没想赚钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26728b4ffc8447fc9aab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q880115adc2dccd17430b","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":514,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T15:06:05.292Z","text":"没赚钱你投什么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q880115adc2dccd17430b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qc04908a8dc0f04632872","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":515,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T15:06:14.745Z","text":"直接捐法制基金啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc04908a8dc0f04632872","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q162685bf9b495a1444a3","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":516,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T15:06:35.831Z","text":"又不是没捐款渠道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q162685bf9b495a1444a3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qc12a4856ac6d9e116992","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":517,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T15:08:43.660Z","text":"你这种人 我之前在联盟群也碰到一个 他说投资不是为了钱 我说你不为了钱 你为什么不直接捐法制基金","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc12a4856ac6d9e116992","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qcdf95b15c232ed43fece","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":518,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-05T15:09:06.639Z","text":"郭在直播多次说过，不灭共，不会有回报，只有风险，你没听着？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0ac67b938de745a4a782","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcdf95b15c232ed43fece","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ac67b938de745a4a782","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qbef2b9ebab3dbe0d875b","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":519,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-05T15:09:28.925Z","text":"郭还说，赚钱找联盟农场，他只负责灭共，你没听到？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbef2b9ebab3dbe0d875b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q9d4b0d6d251eb71ebb40","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":520,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-05T15:09:28.937Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 没有投资，他是局外人，也不是受害者，他是郭被定罪之后才开始学习并了解郭案的。","edited":true,"reply_to":"q880115adc2dccd17430b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d4b0d6d251eb71ebb40","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q880115adc2dccd17430b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q1592a7b47d5babba4fa3","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":521,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-05T15:10:02.765Z","text":"你自己猪油蒙了心，听不到风险，只听到赚钱，你怪谁","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1592a7b47d5babba4fa3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q797b8e63bb5e7cb7257d","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":522,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T15:10:36.924Z","text":"超越比特币 你没听到？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q797b8e63bb5e7cb7257d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q795836e12f0540cd44f7","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":523,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-05T15:11:07.715Z","text":"Musk还说doge会go to the moon呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q795836e12f0540cd44f7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q9b50703561fa2331b9a6","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":524,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T15:11:07.942Z","text":"你不信你投什么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b50703561fa2331b9a6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qa8a46bc9aa25feb6e77a","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":525,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-05T15:11:21.742Z","text":"你咋不找musk啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8a46bc9aa25feb6e77a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q72fb20a8676a02d52323","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":526,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-05T15:11:28.644Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 之前并不是很关注郭","edited":true,"reply_to":"q797b8e63bb5e7cb7257d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72fb20a8676a02d52323","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q797b8e63bb5e7cb7257d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q3fab28e4e7d44fd8603a","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":527,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T15:11:30.754Z","text":"信才投啊 我不信我投 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你觉得是偶然？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb79c77f7df56c9e775fe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qfec7c1396f508290d861","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":555,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T15:36:30.471Z","text":"讲事实就行了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfec7c1396f508290d861","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qa655e5b7dfdbee5d31a8","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":556,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T15:38:49.078Z","text":"要致富就要接受被利用 这个我认 不牺牲哪来的回报 你说我冲着联盟投的 我必须得骂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa655e5b7dfdbee5d31a8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q2105ce44676e67c84687","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":557,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-05T15:39:11.084Z","text":"郭玩的是规则","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2105ce44676e67c84687","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q756e7daf3867cefcad77","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":558,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-05T15:39:42.731Z","text":"投资时 他个人和家族隔离的确实很好","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q756e7daf3867cefcad77","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q9e39726a58662c7b3863","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":559,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-05T15:39:56.189Z","text":"拿Mahwah为例","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e39726a58662c7b3863","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qd7f0c35c3720119bc581","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":560,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-05T15:40:00.959Z","text":"你也是冲着联盟投的吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2105ce44676e67c84687","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd7f0c35c3720119bc581","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2105ce44676e67c84687","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"qc4b36788195210fbd278","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":561,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-05T15:40:25.953Z","text":"确实冲着郭 不否认","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd7f0c35c3720119bc581","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4b36788195210fbd278","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd7f0c35c3720119bc581","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000098"},{"id":"q604a1d7742ce97809ee8","batch_id":"batch-000098","seq":562,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-05T15:40:52.071Z","text":"农场主们 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