{"id":"batch-000099","number":99,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-04-07T11:57:28.474Z","date_end":"2026-04-09T11:07:24.872Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 099 (Apr 7, 2026 – Apr 9, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Batch-99 focused on the Guo matter after-conviction and bankruptcy crossover, mainly debating victim status and conspiracy boundaries, court-role allocation, and procedural records like 364/441/853N, 1195, CRVA, and Wang-case-linked forfeiture references. Participants disputed whether entity-labeling (including G Enterprise and related nominees) is evidence-based, whether loss figures are verified, and whether service/filing lapses justify substantive relief. The thread remained heavily interpretive: many claims were framed as conjecture, while others argued the process flaws were material but unproven. Community statements, not court findings.","guide_en":[{"title":"Victim identity and conspiracy boundaries: who counts as victim or co-conspirator","description":"Participants argued over who can be counted as a victim or co-conspirator, with claims that alleged victim status was overstated and that only authorized figures should be treated as such, while others framed prosecution narrative choices as setting up later restitution positioning. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qf912d45c7ccb4e631475","qbaaf62466e197f5dff26","q1e3b868bf05ee157e1e3"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qf912d45c7ccb4e631475","summary_en":"One participant contended the prosecution appeared to ignore the issue and that this allowed someone to pose as a victim, which they saw as a contested procedural characterization. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qbaaf62466e197f5dff26","summary_en":"A participant disputed that anyone had authority to replace a party, arguing there was no authorization and no registered legal-person status. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q1e3b868bf05ee157e1e3","summary_en":"A participant claimed the prosecution was effectively acting as a victim to secure conviction and then reframing outcomes into pardon or restitution language at payout stage. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Trustee, bankruptcy court, and criminal court boundary: role allocation and litigation eligibility","description":"Participants argued that filing-track jurisdiction was unclear, with debate over whether a docket was bankruptcy or Southern District control and whether Luc and related trustees had standing to be treated as primary actors. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q5af3b52f90d9d529bcec","q24db727b1724a26d58f8","qf59ad08a0599e5e49e07"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q5af3b52f90d9d529bcec","summary_en":"A participant asked directly whether the court handling matters was bankruptcy court or the Southern District, highlighting docket-role ambiguity. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q24db727b1724a26d58f8","summary_en":"Another participant asserted Luc has standing, signaling a claim to procedural legitimacy in the proceeding. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf59ad08a0599e5e49e07","summary_en":"One message relayed that public reporting described the responsible trustee as tied to the bankruptcy matter, which some used to support a court-role interpretation. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Second-appeal positioning dispute: procedural reconsideration or substantive re-argument","description":"Participants contested whether the second-level review was merely procedural or should engage factual and merits issues, with one side saying it ignored complaints and another saying no procedural defect was found. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q9b84a80820fe3e25ded8","qfd741f182ec12c51f711","q298ac9d9ee6a9e622ff2"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q9b84a80820fe3e25ded8","summary_en":"A participant argued that the second-tier court was not engaging with the disputed points. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qfd741f182ec12c51f711","summary_en":"Another participant contended that the second court denied relief because it did not identify procedural error. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q298ac9d9ee6a9e622ff2","summary_en":"A later participant argued that once a third party appears, Luc must show up, while also claiming prosecutors were preparing fallback tracks tied to forfeiture timing and depletion concerns. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Procedural compliance focus: whether 364/441/853N are filed and late filing effects","description":"Participants argued that timely record-building was unresolved, citing failures to upload filings such as 364, 441, and 853N and debating whether notices or motions to add the record could compel correction. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qe41f0156d6fc44959559","q45ce3408ecfb8fdfc8a0","q3dd13704cf3e65bcc200"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qe41f0156d6fc44959559","summary_en":"One participant described filing a Torres motion alleging bias and injustice after one record was uploaded for one party but not 853N, and said a motion to include 364 drew no response. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q45ce3408ecfb8fdfc8a0","summary_en":"Another participant suggested serving a notice to the second-level court about the South District’s failure to upload the opening-notice filing. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q3dd13704cf3e65bcc200","summary_en":"A participant stated plainly that filings 364 and 441 had still not been uploaded. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Service and consolidation notice anomalies: postmarks, origins, and duplicate delivery","description":"Participants disputed whether consolidation notices were duplicate and irregular, with arguments over source court, postmark timing, and whether repeated paper service weakened reliability. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qbfe3eea86e23a7b16f1b","q816a49ebfc7f3ece9338","qf90fcc9dceb2c76052ba"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qbfe3eea86e23a7b16f1b","summary_en":"A participant reported receiving another consolidation notice with a February 27 postmark and noted the same type of notice had already been received earlier. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q816a49ebfc7f3ece9338","summary_en":"Another participant questioned whether the prior notice came from the second court while the latest seemed issued by the Southern District. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf90fcc9dceb2c76052ba","summary_en":"A participant added that the earlier notice had also been delivered in paper form, reinforcing doubt about handling consistency. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Alter ego and G Enterprise/HK attribution as alleged evidence reshaping","description":"Participants disputed whether grouping G-series entities into one construct amounted to an evidentiary stretch, with claims prosecutors were using a single control label to make broader attribution and avoid entity-level proof. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q95e554bb1fc4da798e66","qbac92c6000232e4cbc60","q04a10e2d34f5064f6959"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q95e554bb1fc4da798e66","summary_en":"A participant argued the prosecution bundled separate G-series entities into one unit, describing this as an unsupported conceptual shift. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qbac92c6000232e4cbc60","summary_en":"The same participant stated the point of that bundling was to claim Guo controlled everything. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q04a10e2d34f5064f6959","summary_en":"A participant argued the Guo matter involved both bankruptcy and criminal cases of different types and that one side was cross-referencing indictments rather than proving every point. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Control and nominee disputes: Liannong, ACA/Himalaya, and Lady May money trail","description":"Participants disputed whether entities were nominee structures tied to Guo or independent channels, with one side repeatedly pressing alter-ego inferences and another pointing to cashflow destination as inconsistent with that theory. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q048a79d19b17fe91369f","q530fb68d00b8a86c48cb","qc5ebf3dfdfc73b91c215"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q048a79d19b17fe91369f","summary_en":"A participant asked whether Liannong was effectively Guo’s alter ego, putting control attribution at issue. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q530fb68d00b8a86c48cb","summary_en":"Another participant contended funds routed through the farm ultimately reached the farm owner’s pocket and were not used by Guo’s family, disputing nominee-control inference. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qc5ebf3dfdfc73b91c215","summary_en":"A participant queried whether Lady May had been funded by Guo, further challenging the control chain narrative. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Victim counts and amount basis: 5.5 billion/13 billion and list reliability","description":"Participants argued that victim counts and loss scale were unresolved, with one view demanding auditable line-item losses and another disputing whether named representatives qualified as victims; disputes over totals remained unresolved and contested. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qa2f39f6fe886d2989556","q04115b734ee187142d45","qf3879edcad6d456fc74e"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qa2f39f6fe886d2989556","summary_en":"A participant stated legal standards require each victim to have specific, auditable loss figures and a clear list. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q04115b734ee187142d45","summary_en":"Another participant reported the defense repeatedly arguing that certain represented parties were not victims. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf3879edcad6d456fc74e","summary_en":"A participant claimed the roster may include only 50 registered victims, which was used to challenge total-headcount assumptions. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Core evidence verifiability: 1111 materials, transcripts, and Luc disclosure","description":"Participants claimed critical evidence needed verification, demanding access to 1111 documents and arguing that transcript evidence was more reliable than unsupported commentary, while some doubted what Luc had actually submitted. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q14d6b437546724ac83d7","q6558f56a92b1c8482890","qac4c73a4e9db7a957997"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q14d6b437546724ac83d7","summary_en":"A participant simply asked that the 1111 file be released and offered to forward it to a legal-file room. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q6558f56a92b1c8482890","summary_en":"Another participant said the 1111 record appeared in filing 1195 and dismissed one person’s claims as unreliable while noting UBS evidence as present. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qac4c73a4e9db7a957997","summary_en":"A participant asked what evidence Luc had actually filed, indicating doubt over disclosure completeness. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Sentencing strategy and narrative conflict: 175 years to \"at least 30\" and timing pressure","description":"Participants argued over sentencing narrative and political framing, from demands for extremely long terms to tactical downscaling, with competing claims that advocacy aimed at victim optics and payment-driven pressure rather than legal calibration. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qf9106adb9107c582083c","qf9c539c11b00a2903f94","qf4a36f6b585cc387ab52"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qf9106adb9107c582083c","summary_en":"A participant argued that the sentencing should attribute all disaster-causing conduct to the defendant and move directly to a 175-year target for dramatic effect. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf9c539c11b00a2903f94","summary_en":"Another participant stated the demand reportedly shifted from 175 years to a floor of at least 30 years. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf4a36f6b585cc387ab52","summary_en":"A participant suggested a 6,000-person figure was aimed at victim-count expansion, partly to support criminal evidence and partially to support payments in bankruptcy context. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Forfeiture scope: false claims, restitution, and remission definition","description":"Participants disputed the legal end-state of forfeiture and whether it was effectively framed through restitution or remission, with claims that Wang-case logic drove the method and that timing weakened enforcement. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q8f48ea6af7255635794a","q4d76fc1785cb71bf99d4","q7e06caae83d74faab8e1"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q8f48ea6af7255635794a","summary_en":"A participant accused the process of violating judicial integrity. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q4d76fc1785cb71bf99d4","summary_en":"Another participant endorsed the disputed forfeiture position in a short acknowledgement, indicating partial agreement with the prior claim. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q7e06caae83d74faab8e1","summary_en":"A participant laid out a three-step view: forfeiture scope and amounts derive from the Wang case, the defense challenged forfeiture late, and both 853N/CRVA paths were seen as ultimately channeling to remission rather than restitution. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Discussion style shift: group rules, labeling, and consensus inference overtaking evidence checking","description":"Participants argued over moderation and tone, with community rules pushing anti-harassment constraints, while others felt compliance pressure and enemy-labeling were overshadowing fact-checking of legal claims. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q54128f5abebae0ac6451","q22c6304a5ead6d6b7fa0","q3373c10a213598d83fb9"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q54128f5abebae0ac6451","summary_en":"An administrator posted multi-point group rules restricting off-topic posts and prohibiting label-based accusations without evidence, with escalation paths for repeated violations. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q22c6304a5ead6d6b7fa0","summary_en":"A participant shared an external social post link as part of the broader debate. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q3373c10a213598d83fb9","summary_en":"Another participant said they were only trying to file a private complaint and objected to being treated as an enemy. Community statements, not court findings."}]}],"summary":"本期讨论围绕后续庭审和破产交叉程序展开，主要争点高度分散但可归为三条主线：其一是身份定性与事实边界，包括受害者/代表、共谋、代持及alter ego的认定是否成立；其二是程序与证据效力，围绕文件提交、送达、密封材料、法院角色分工、二巡性质及上诉标准是否允许介入展开激烈争论；其三是财产追缴与量刑方向，涉及联农、ACA/Himalaya、Lady May等链条及金额口径是否可直接支持追缴与刑责强化。多数观点未形成一致答案，讨论中大量出现“需核验、未充分证实、仅为叙事解读”等表述，且对检方动机、律师策略与司法体系公信力的解释差异明显。","guide":[{"title":"受害者身份与共谋边界：是谁可被算入受害者/共谋犯","message_ids":["qf912d45c7ccb4e631475","qbaaf62466e197f5dff26","q1e3b868bf05ee157e1e3"]},{"title":"受托人、破产庭与刑事庭边界：角色定位与诉讼资格拉锯","message_ids":["q5af3b52f90d9d529bcec","q24db727b1724a26d58f8","qf59ad08a0599e5e49e07"]},{"title":"二巡上诉定位之争：程序复议还是案件实质重审","message_ids":["q9b84a80820fe3e25ded8","qfd741f182ec12c51f711","q298ac9d9ee6a9e622ff2"]},{"title":"程序合规焦点：364/441/853N是否入卷与逾期效力","message_ids":["qe41f0156d6fc44959559","q45ce3408ecfb8fdfc8a0","q3dd13704cf3e65bcc200"]},{"title":"送达与并案通知异常：邮戳、来源与重复送达被持续质疑","message_ids":["qbfe3eea86e23a7b16f1b","q816a49ebfc7f3ece9338","qf90fcc9dceb2c76052ba"]},{"title":"alter ego与G 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hex, farm loan，还有什么？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q89522b3adacc2e27921a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0b86dbcd34f7d2ead3b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q89522b3adacc2e27921a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qd0b34edfb42d97aeebc2","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":602,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-08T02:45:31.319Z","text":"欺诈就这三个，其它的用共谋来往里装。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa0b86dbcd34f7d2ead3b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd0b34edfb42d97aeebc2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0b86dbcd34f7d2ead3b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qa3615fa3fe62699f5f80","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":603,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-08T02:48:11.468Z","text":"在王案里 追加起诉 依旧包括了GTV\n这就是检方很贼的地方 郭不认罪 就从王这里找漏洞","edited":false,"reply_to":"q89522b3adacc2e27921a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa3615fa3fe62699f5f80","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q89522b3adacc2e27921a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qc02d8484034fc732d1ee","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":604,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T02:48:48.792Z","text":"那法治基金捐款，gfashion的钱, gtv的钱怎么算？也算犯罪资金吧？也在没收财产里面？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd0b34edfb42d97aeebc2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc02d8484034fc732d1ee","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd0b34edfb42d97aeebc2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q017c8e59a751a03c4fee","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":605,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-08T02:49:00.172Z","text":"都算","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc02d8484034fc732d1ee","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q017c8e59a751a03c4fee","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc02d8484034fc732d1ee","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qbbd2e6849b36fbbf2700","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":606,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T02:49:23.478Z","text":"那就是说不只4个实体啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbd2e6849b36fbbf2700","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qc33177eaf4c9f7281df5","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":607,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-08T02:49:41.121Z","text":"都算欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc33177eaf4c9f7281df5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q55c910d47f40fd95b8db","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":608,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T02:49:49.086Z","text":"对啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55c910d47f40fd95b8db","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q117503fe8150634837bc","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":609,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T02:50:07.542Z","text":"郭律师不是还找魏丽红，夏其东要钱吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q117503fe8150634837bc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q3146e35435e7c8a1d2fb","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":610,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T02:50:20.725Z","text":"还有王学兵","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3146e35435e7c8a1d2fb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q05a18fe7ee94993141eb","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":611,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-08T02:50:29.317Z","text":"在南区没收里，定罪不推翻，只能没收那三个欺诈计划里的钱。在破产法庭，所有的钱都得追。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc02d8484034fc732d1ee","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05a18fe7ee94993141eb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc02d8484034fc732d1ee","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q6d7e4683200e44aa84aa","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":612,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T02:50:30.492Z","text":"那说明联盟农场也都算","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d7e4683200e44aa84aa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qc98462e90718b020ecb3","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":613,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-08T02:50:39.475Z","text":"这和alter ego无关","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc98462e90718b020ecb3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q0f80af7990aee6a27eed","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":614,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T02:51:44.267Z","text":"我搞不懂为什么[删节：成员身份]不把联盟农场也算作郭的alter ego","edited":true,"reply_to":"q1185014ab3af4f5ae7dc","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f80af7990aee6a27eed","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q770cb40f7971ea0b11e4","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":615,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T02:52:03.987Z","text":"联盟农场都是实体公司，农场主是法人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q770cb40f7971ea0b11e4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q6f8b293735b473dbe7a7","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":616,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T02:52:11.598Z","text":"农场主是郭的代理人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f8b293735b473dbe7a7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qf748f5ba1405e67e7db2","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":617,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T02:52:27.357Z","text":"联盟农场不就是郭的替代自我吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf748f5ba1405e67e7db2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q0568c9998b8df2a554fc","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":618,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-08T02:52:39.534Z","text":"一个问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0568c9998b8df2a554fc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qcdbd68741f8b33f0a3a6","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":619,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-08T02:52:58.191Z","text":"郭家族 花了这些公司收到的钱吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcdbd68741f8b33f0a3a6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q48be25557fb7f2f7e083","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":620,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T02:53:49.456Z","text":"郭应该没花G系列的钱，但是根据检方的说法，农场借贷不是郭要负责的吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcdbd68741f8b33f0a3a6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q48be25557fb7f2f7e083","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcdbd68741f8b33f0a3a6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q95f65a77f340466c9845","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":621,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-08T02:54:39.148Z","text":"Alter ego的定义","edited":false,"reply_to":"q48be25557fb7f2f7e083","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95f65a77f340466c9845","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q48be25557fb7f2f7e083","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q6ff0c6c3dcda8f99884f","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":622,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-08T02:55:12.767Z","text":"我突然发现，那个lady may是不是也在被没收资产里？破产法庭都认定了那是债务人的可撤销转让，属于郭的个人财产，又不是诈骗所得，为何也可以没收？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ff0c6c3dcda8f99884f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q85a25c80b249719d58b8","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":623,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-08T02:56:06.809Z","text":"这个与luc追钱的策略有关，用欺诈转移来追可能更容易操作。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf748f5ba1405e67e7db2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85a25c80b249719d58b8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf748f5ba1405e67e7db2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q1e6a450d8964ba2fa13d","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":624,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-08T02:56:37.502Z","text":"欺诈追钱 Alter ego定罪\nLuc 检方 既要又要\n［用户 him***］ 有点绕 群主得自己捋一捋","edited":true,"reply_to":"q85a25c80b249719d58b8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e6a450d8964ba2fa13d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85a25c80b249719d58b8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qfc94b3de05f253397188","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":625,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-08T02:57:56.009Z","text":"王案 G enterprise 都算欺诈\n根据alter ego 所有都算在郭头上\n无论是不是郭的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6ff0c6c3dcda8f99884f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc94b3de05f253397188","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ff0c6c3dcda8f99884f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qb9c1b946cdef3d80bdc4","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":626,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-08T02:58:17.687Z","text":"破产法庭文件里的那些词汇一大堆，说成人话就是，那些都属于债务人。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9c1b946cdef3d80bdc4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q4573e6968d58111a90a5","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":627,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-08T02:59:42.191Z","text":"Mahwah目前的官司 Luc也是这个策略","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4573e6968d58111a90a5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qc5d9432ae8354dddedd0","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":628,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-08T03:00:05.276Z","text":"王参与了G enterprise 的欺诈洗钱敲诈勒索，跟没收lady may 有什么关系？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfc94b3de05f253397188","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5d9432ae8354dddedd0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc94b3de05f253397188","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q142ac8a710dac4b3df81","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":629,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-08T03:01:18.809Z","text":"所有G enterprise 都算欺诈\n都算郭的壳公司\n郭美的公司 也算她爹的壳公司\n郭美买的船 就属于她爹","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc5d9432ae8354dddedd0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q142ac8a710dac4b3df81","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5d9432ae8354dddedd0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q66ebfd0de3b59f101927","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":630,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-08T03:03:04.872Z","text":"美国政府得证明那些是用犯罪所得买的，g系列投资在lady may 之后。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q142ac8a710dac4b3df81","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66ebfd0de3b59f101927","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q142ac8a710dac4b3df81","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qb59407aa0e0f81a739eb","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":631,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-08T03:04:34.530Z","text":"被告一路上都是破产文件1195的那种操作，不承认不拒绝，把自己关三年，还在继续演。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb59407aa0e0f81a739eb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q26aa574a912eb8c22f0b","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":632,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T03:04:53.645Z","text":"就是luc选择性执法","edited":false,"reply_to":"q85a25c80b249719d58b8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26aa574a912eb8c22f0b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85a25c80b249719d58b8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q2e93b672316e7db2c801","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":633,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-08T03:05:18.937Z","text":"所以郭美的律师是[屏蔽词]\n咱们都看得出来的问题 他专业的不懂？","edited":true,"reply_to":"q66ebfd0de3b59f101927","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e93b672316e7db2c801","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66ebfd0de3b59f101927","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qa1a858e7a71f35e02e48","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":634,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T03:05:35.791Z","text":"卢克不把联盟农场搞成alter ego是因为农场主和他是一伙的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1a858e7a71f35e02e48","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qa6836e8f77e6cd9f668d","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":635,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-08T03:07:32.930Z","text":"破产那条线，luc追Lady may的基础是，这个游艇是可撤销转让，根据各州法律可撤销转让的时间不同，但至少一年，债务人在债务判决前一定时间内的资产转让，可以被认定为可撤销转让。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2e93b672316e7db2c801","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6836e8f77e6cd9f668d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e93b672316e7db2c801","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q27558c79f681aa18a78e","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":636,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-08T03:08:35.587Z","text":"目前为止展现出的荒诞已经超越天际了，被告还觉得不过瘾吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27558c79f681aa18a78e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q329e0a39dbc352b9da61","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":637,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-08T03:23:12.023Z","text":"不能逼急了 不然那帮人就反水","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa1a858e7a71f35e02e48","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q329e0a39dbc352b9da61","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1a858e7a71f35e02e48","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qf6cde6e30a661aa1b137","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":638,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-08T03:23:30.900Z","text":"青现在干的 其实是过河拆桥","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6cde6e30a661aa1b137","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q8665ee06546d0a0f049d","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":639,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-08T03:24:32.877Z","text":"鸟们不吭声 把郭定了罪 现在被利用完了 青要把他们也送进去 绝后患","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8665ee06546d0a0f049d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qa6a0b6a6280dfd2c7389","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":640,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-08T03:25:27.391Z","text":"王朔的一句话 玩儿的就是心跳","edited":false,"reply_to":"q27558c79f681aa18a78e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6a0b6a6280dfd2c7389","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27558c79f681aa18a78e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qf63f57dabe4b9197defe","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":641,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T03:26:05.098Z","text":"Ace和dawn这两个公司可能确实是郭的，所以他不反击","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb59407aa0e0f81a739eb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf63f57dabe4b9197defe","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb59407aa0e0f81a739eb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qe87767e655352badc9c7","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":642,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T03:26:54.425Z","text":"但是g系列不是他的，公族和Julia的债权人登记他反击了，但是法庭裁决他没有standing","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe87767e655352badc9c7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q5c2cc6e08a97fd5385d9","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":643,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-08T03:27:29.057Z","text":"这个就是Luc故意使坏","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa6836e8f77e6cd9f668d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c2cc6e08a97fd5385d9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6836e8f77e6cd9f668d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q72d81c61094237cfdc23","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":644,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-08T03:28:14.586Z","text":"破产庭 曼宁裁的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe87767e655352badc9c7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72d81c61094237cfdc23","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe87767e655352badc9c7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q6e00323e2b4ccdeee431","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":645,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T03:38:39.940Z","text":"好像是","edited":false,"reply_to":"q72d81c61094237cfdc23","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e00323e2b4ccdeee431","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72d81c61094237cfdc23","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q20504fe300c70d7c955d","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":646,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-08T03:45:28.159Z","text":"然后到了刑事案","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6e00323e2b4ccdeee431","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20504fe300c70d7c955d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e00323e2b4ccdeee431","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q1c4ef520837f371b2c13","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":647,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-08T03:45:45.690Z","text":"关于没收 郭就没有发言权","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c4ef520837f371b2c13","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qab2497deda9b59d62038","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":648,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-08T03:53:14.693Z","text":"大家赶紧看 信息量巨大！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab2497deda9b59d62038","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qdceb6b87d70d10a01a9d","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":649,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-08T03:55:04.905Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]  青藤又和检方合作啦！","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdceb6b87d70d10a01a9d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qabf71ac02d6820d44cfc","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":650,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-08T04:01:30.161Z","text":"南区这个不要脸，前嘴说受害者是否自认为受害于量刑指南无关，然后马上反嘴说被告造成了成千上万的痛苦，所以要加重量刑。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabf71ac02d6820d44cfc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q9482e126c7247616629b","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":651,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-08T04:01:32.975Z","text":"检方要处以极刑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9482e126c7247616629b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qf9c539c11b00a2903f94","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":652,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-08T04:02:01.904Z","text":"本来想175年，后面说至少要判30年。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9c539c11b00a2903f94","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q1cc822671d39ae70be7a","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":653,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-08T04:02:25.725Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ 你的佳佳 也算司法留名了🤣","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1cc822671d39ae70be7a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q5a4f0905fefb8adde2bd","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":654,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-08T04:02:51.301Z","text":"和盖尔的motion配合","edited":false,"reply_to":"qabf71ac02d6820d44cfc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a4f0905fefb8adde2bd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabf71ac02d6820d44cfc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qf9106adb9107c582083c","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":655,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-08T04:06:16.466Z","text":"被告不是说中共是一切灾难的根源吗，托雷斯应该说被告是一切灾难的根源，直接给判175年，要让荒诞来得更猛烈一些。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9106adb9107c582083c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qf4a36f6b585cc387ab52","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":656,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-08T04:20:19.062Z","text":"说白了 盖尔那6000就是为了攒人头数\n目的是 \n1 给刑事案送受害者存在的证据\n2 不反对没赦免 给破产庭送钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4a36f6b585cc387ab52","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q3895c6daf5c2e754bdf6","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":657,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T04:22:45.099Z","text":"检方说周越和郭每两周相见，郭指挥tdccp，这些是检方核实的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdceb6b87d70d10a01a9d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3895c6daf5c2e754bdf6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdceb6b87d70d10a01a9d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q4d19a9c281f7d2459e48","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":658,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T04:23:08.594Z","text":"检方核实了这些是真的？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d19a9c281f7d2459e48","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q4d280de6c2be520a5f63","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":659,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-08T04:23:23.129Z","text":"不太清楚","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d280de6c2be520a5f63","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q7a8e3364e16ea0b97a03","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":660,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-08T04:23:26.912Z","text":"有可能是司法欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a8e3364e16ea0b97a03","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q42b3918bd582b7a0fa08","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":661,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-08T04:23:27.569Z","text":"不用 参考鸟在Mahwah直播 说房子是郭买的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3895c6daf5c2e754bdf6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42b3918bd582b7a0fa08","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3895c6daf5c2e754bdf6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q2a952313681bad2dd08a","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":662,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T04:23:49.718Z","text":"辩方看到这个会装瞎？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7a8e3364e16ea0b97a03","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a952313681bad2dd08a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a8e3364e16ea0b97a03","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q78659d18c9be08ce740e","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":663,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-04-08T04:24:49.456Z","text":"这司法真黑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78659d18c9be08ce740e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qaaac1015911c200ae37d","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":664,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-08T04:25:13.004Z","text":"如果辩方不打那就是默认了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaaac1015911c200ae37d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qb0aa6a63a9feef1ceca4","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":665,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T04:25:57.512Z","text":"检方说，郭用tdccp的钱请律师？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0aa6a63a9feef1ceca4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qe5818a77019d08f28488","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":666,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T04:26:12.328Z","text":"这是他们核实过的？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5818a77019d08f28488","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q4353b678081d448dfd73","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":667,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-08T04:26:21.048Z","text":"这不都是联盟说的…","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4353b678081d448dfd73","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qae3c493fbfad81d6c2d2","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":668,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T04:26:47.750Z","text":"检方引用受害者陈述，不需要核实验证？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae3c493fbfad81d6c2d2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qec952a2b41bc830857d1","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":669,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-08T04:29:17.873Z","text":"就是用明显不合理的传闻来让荒唐判决勉强说得过去，托雷斯只管说，郭的共谋犯还在伤害受害者就行。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec952a2b41bc830857d1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qe30b70ef9d5cce83f3e5","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":670,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-08T04:29:33.913Z","text":"哦 好像说 传闻证据也行","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe30b70ef9d5cce83f3e5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q264fa16103edaf7c7e9f","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":671,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-08T04:36:21.523Z","text":"无耻的荒唐 案件能到现在这个地步 真是美国法律史上的奇迹。共匪真牛","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q264fa16103edaf7c7e9f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qc6dd7a2e41a231e480b7","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":672,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-08T04:39:50.673Z","text":"Mahwah 和游艇 都和郭美扯上关系\n所以郭美必须要和Luc打官司 反对alter ego","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6dd7a2e41a231e480b7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qb779b6257c952d91802f","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":673,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-08T04:43:30.776Z","text":"我已经认真帮你把这份 88页（Document 833） 的核心内容梳理了一遍。先给你一个清晰、结构化总结 + 我的判断，你会一下子看懂这份文件到底在干什么👇\n\n⸻\n\n📄 一、这份文件本质是什么？\n\n👉 这是：\n\n美国检方提交的《量刑备忘录》（Sentencing Memorandum）\n\n📌 目的只有一个：\n\n👉 说服法官给郭文贵判一个很重的刑（至少30年）\n\n\n\n⸻\n\n🧠 二、核心结构（帮你一眼看懂全局）\n\n这88页其实可以压缩成 6个板块：\n\n⸻\n\n① 总论（开头定调）\n\n检方的核心叙事：\n    •    诈骗规模巨大（>10亿美元）\n    •    受害者成千上万\n    •    生活极度奢侈（豪宅、游艇、豪车）\n    •    完全没有悔意\n    •    仍在继续影响外部\n\n👉 结论：\n\n必须重判（至少30年）\n\n⸻\n\n② “犯罪模式”总框架\n\n检方构建了一个统一逻辑：\n\n👉 “G Enterprise（郭的体系）”\n\n包括：\n    •    Rule of Law（所谓基金/组织）\n    •    GTV\n    •    Farm Loan\n    •    G|CLUBS\n    •    Himalaya Exchange（虚拟币）\n    •    A10\n\n👉 他们说：\n\n这些不是独立项目，而是一个持续5年的诈骗体系\n\n⸻\n\n③ 六大项目逐个“定性为诈骗”\n\n我帮你简化👇\n\n⸻\n\n🧩 1. Rule of Law（最早入口）\n\n检方说：\n    •    承诺捐款（郭说自己出1亿）❌没兑现\n    •    用来吸粉 + 建立信任\n    •    钱被挪用\n\n👉 定性：\n\n“拉人头 + 信任建立工具”\n\n⸻\n\n🧩 2. GTV（核心融资）\n    •    以“投资股票”为名融资\n    •    承诺保本\n    •    实际拿去投资（例如100M高风险基金）\n    •    亏损不赔\n\n👉 定性：\n\n“虚假融资 + 挪用资金”\n\n⸻\n\n🧩 3. Farm Loan（农场贷款）\n    •    说是贷款 → 实际是变相融资\n    •    结构类似金字塔\n    •    钱流入空壳公司\n\n👉 定性：\n\n“结构化资金收集 + 转移”\n\n⸻\n\n🧩 4. G|CLUBS（会员制）\n    •    说买会员 = 得股票\n    •    实际没有股票\n    •    收入约2.4亿美元\n\n钱用来干嘛？\n\n👉 买：\n    •    豪宅（新泽西）\n    •    Bugatti / Ferrari / Lamborghini\n    •    游艇\n    •    奢侈家具\n\n⸻\n\n👉 这是检方重点攻击点之一\n\n⸻\n\n🧩 5. Himalaya Exchange（虚拟币）\n\n检方重点说：\n    •    不是真区块链（只是数据库）\n    •    没有黄金支撑\n    •    价格人为操控\n    •    投资人拿不到币\n\n👉 定性：\n\n“假加密货币”\n\n⸻\n\n🧩 6. A10（最后收割）\n    •    在资产被查封后继续融资\n    •    试图把钱转移到阿布扎比\n\n👉 定性：\n\n“最后一轮资金抽取”\n\n⸻\n\n④ 受害者 &金额\n\n检方强调：\n    •    损失 > 5.5亿美元（保守）\n    •    实际声称 > 10亿美元规模\n    •    很多人：\n    •    用退休金\n    •    抵押房子\n    •    家庭积蓄\n\n👉 甚至提到：\n\n有人“考虑自杀”\n\n⸻","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb779b6257c952d91802f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q83d72977542caea9c4a9","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":674,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-08T04:43:51.349Z","text":"⸻\n\n⑤ 妨碍司法（非常关键）\n\n这一部分是你刚才最关心的逻辑核心👇\n\n⸻\n\n检方列了几种“obstruction”：\n\n⸻\n\n🔴 1. 资金转移\n    •    转到阿联酋\n    •    避开美国监管\n\n⸻\n\n🔴 2. 网络/现实骚扰\n    •    把反对者称为“CCP间谍”\n    •    公开个人信息\n    •    组织线下抗议\n\n👉 包括：\n    •    去别人家门口\n    •    去家人学校\n\n（文件有图片证据）\n\n⸻\n\n🔴 3. 干扰破产程序\n    •    隐藏资产\n    •    作伪证\n    •    不配合法院\n\n⸻\n\n👉 检方结论：\n\n他不仅犯罪，还持续阻碍司法\n\n⸻\n\n⑥ 量刑结论\n\n⸻\n\nGuidelines（量刑指南）：\n\n👉 理论刑期：\n\n175年\n\n⸻\n\n但检方“保守”建议：\n\n👉 至少 30年监禁\n\n\n\n⸻\n\n⚖️ 三、这份文件真正的“逻辑杀招”\n\n我帮你提炼出来👇\n\n⸻\n\n🎯 核心策略 = 三点组合\n\n⸻\n\n1️⃣ 统一叙事\n\n把所有项目：\n\n👉 合并为一个“连续诈骗体系”\n\n⸻\n\n2️⃣ 切断“政治辩护”\n\n文件里有一句非常关键👇\n\n👉 “CCP的行为与本案无关”\n\n👉 直接把你们最核心的论点：\n\n全部切掉\n\n⸻\n\n3️⃣ 强调“人性伤害”\n\n不是只讲钱，而是：\n    •    心理伤害\n    •    家庭破裂\n    •    自杀风险\n\n👉 这是为了打动法官\n\n⸻\n\n🧠 四、我的判断（很重要）\n\n我给你一个冷静、专业、不站队的分析\n\n⸻\n\n✔️ 1. 这是一份“进攻性很强”的文件\n\n特点：\n    •    情绪用词很多（cult-like、destroyed lives）\n    •    叙事非常完整\n    •    证据链按项目打包\n\n👉 目的不是“客观”，而是：\n\n👉 最大化刑期\n\n⸻\n\n✔️ 2. 它刻意回避你关心的点\n\n比如：\n    •    火灾 ❌没提\n    •    外部干预 ❌否认\n    •    证据争议 ❌不展开\n\n👉 这是策略性选择\n\n⸻\n\n✔️ 3. 真正关键点在这里👇\n\n不是它说了什么，\n\n而是：\n\n👉 法官会不会全信？\n\n⸻\n\n🔥 五、你现在要抓的重点（非常关键）\n\n⸻\n\n❗ 这份文件的弱点在：\n\n⸻\n\n1️⃣ 全部基于“检方叙事”\n\n👉 没有对抗版本\n\n⸻\n\n2️⃣ 把“投资”全部定义为“诈骗”\n\n👉 这是最大争议点\n\n⸻\n\n3️⃣ 把所有行为解释为“控制 + 操纵”\n\n👉 但没有展开每个细节的反证\n\n⸻\n\n🎯 六、一句话总结\n\n这份文件的本质是：\n👉 用一个完整、连贯、情绪化的叙事，把所有项目打包成一个“长期诈骗帝国”，从而为重判铺路\n\n⸻\n\n💡 七、给你一个非常关键的提醒\n\n你刚才提到的👇\n\n火灾\n干预\n证据问题\n\n👉 在这份文件里：\n\n完全被排除在叙事之外\n\n⸻\n\n这说明一件事：\n\n👉 法庭当前的“官方叙事框架”，不包含这些内容\n\n⸻\n\n如果你要继续深入，我可以帮你做👇\n\n✅ 把这份文件“逐条拆解漏洞”（非常有价值）\n✅ 或帮你对比：检方 vs 可能的辩方逻辑\n✅ 或专门分析：它哪里最容易被反驳\n\n你下一步想往哪个方向走，我可以帮你继续往深处打。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83d72977542caea9c4a9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q30400e8d1c29493edf69","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":675,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T04:44:02.986Z","text":"周越的话，现在也可以引用了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1cc822671d39ae70be7a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30400e8d1c29493edf69","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1cc822671d39ae70be7a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q4eb19a95c0b297e7abed","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":676,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T04:44:13.497Z","text":"不是传言吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4eb19a95c0b297e7abed","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qcc8843efc02779a085e6","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":677,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T04:44:36.548Z","text":"那就说明检方承认周越是同案犯了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc8843efc02779a085e6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q7d447ff23e0d29a2ffe5","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":678,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T04:44:47.237Z","text":"不是受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d447ff23e0d29a2ffe5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qebff0002cd50e6a3f69a","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":679,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T04:45:13.775Z","text":"那周越和ava直播，就是受害者和同案犯串通","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qebff0002cd50e6a3f69a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q6aee5fab04ef0c0f7b80","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":680,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T04:48:29.546Z","text":"检方说郭继续犯罪，那为什么检方不阻止呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6aee5fab04ef0c0f7b80","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qf47882a121f70f3e83a6","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":681,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T04:49:10.112Z","text":"检方就眼睁睁的看着郭每两周都和同案犯相见，指挥tdccp，然后不管","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf47882a121f70f3e83a6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q7e051622fc80bb63861d","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":682,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-04-08T04:49:12.659Z","text":"因为可以用疏忽来掩盖","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6aee5fab04ef0c0f7b80","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e051622fc80bb63861d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6aee5fab04ef0c0f7b80","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q552667d71cf5474af6d0","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":683,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T04:49:37.932Z","text":"还让周越去做受害者陈述？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7e051622fc80bb63861d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q552667d71cf5474af6d0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e051622fc80bb63861d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q4e149106d5c1f5e865e4","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":684,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-08T04:52:48.391Z","text":"就是让诈骗犯来迫害投资者，然后栽赃给被告。傻子一看就出来，就是要用这种傻子一看就出来的操作方式，才能达到3f的效果。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e149106d5c1f5e865e4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q265792ca4816e8a67f0f","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":685,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T05:04:41.278Z","text":"司法系统是独立的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe29f1409e463377adb59","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q265792ca4816e8a67f0f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batc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Mahwah就成郭的了\n购买方是Taurus 公司 还在和Luc 扯皮呢\n检方才不用去验证 只需要hearsay","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4bc493fa86d8b4c32f56","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q3c7b51dccdc3a014d47b","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":689,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-08T05:18:13.060Z","text":"王案量刑陈述 有记录周越 是受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":"q552667d71cf5474af6d0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c7b51dccdc3a014d47b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q552667d71cf5474af6d0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q2d93d0ead934dc88c3e5","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":690,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-08T05:18:56.255Z","text":"郭的这个量刑陈述 周摇身一变 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不闻不问 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还敢上吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd64ef75c6b87f3cf5230","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qed768be8bda30a2e436b","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":737,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T06:22:47.187Z","text":"二巡，必须有可以推翻整个案件的程序失误，才可能翻案","edited":false,"reply_to":"q205ec72a28a0f36e839a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed768be8bda30a2e436b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q205ec72a28a0f36e839a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q64cca7cd56bf9f7c6951","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":738,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-08T06:23:00.927Z","text":"现在失误已经够多了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qed768be8bda30a2e436b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64cca7cd56bf9f7c6951","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed768be8bda30a2e436b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qafff9bc46cb8ba341f20","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":739,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T06:23:15.596Z","text":"只是边角料的小错误，是不行的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qafff9bc46cb8ba341f20","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qe9c0c8db4c1e99e2f740","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":740,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-08T06:23:16.291Z","text":"每一个都是核炸弹","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9c0c8db4c1e99e2f740","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q9db02b3499375bab126a","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":741,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-08T06:23:22.428Z","text":"直接打废","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9db02b3499375bab126a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q7c2d49bd096ef99eeb73","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":742,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T06:23:25.733Z","text":"就像郭美那个案子","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c2d49bd096ef99eeb73","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q14aaed834c13bb59066f","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":743,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-08T06:23:36.020Z","text":"那个完全就找了个边角料…","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7c2d49bd096ef99eeb73","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14aaed834c13bb59066f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c2d49bd096ef99eeb73","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qb47d9c881dcbaf350749","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":744,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T06:24:52.012Z","text":"郭的律师还可以反驳检方的量刑文件吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qebbb36bcb06aa2d838cb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb47d9c881dcbaf350749","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qebbb36bcb06aa2d838cb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q998bb08314e1f6e953c8","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":745,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-04-08T06:26:40.313Z","text":"各位专家们，你们在群里分析得头头是道，比律师都厉害，可是要把分析的东西给法庭才有用啊，群里怎么分析透彻都改变不了案情！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q998bb08314e1f6e953c8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q8f32515c3ba8fdb5ca1d","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":746,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-08T06:26:56.466Z","text":"不知道 反驳也没用","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb47d9c881dcbaf350749","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f32515c3ba8fdb5ca1d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb47d9c881dcbaf350749","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qa59f7cc8e1a27d26411c","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":747,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-04-08T06:27:14.192Z","text":"这次的受害者陈述，密封了。只有法院能看。真缺德。为什么不像王艳萍的受害者陈述一样公开啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa59f7cc8e1a27d26411c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q88dd9dadd5466e85ffcc","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":748,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-08T06:27:23.656Z","text":"现在七个二巡已经够了 郭如果二巡 最高法翻不了盘 只能认命","edited":false,"reply_to":"q998bb08314e1f6e953c8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q88dd9dadd5466e85ffcc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q998bb08314e1f6e953c8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q30d7bb5e05172ce72e0c","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":749,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-08T06:27:37.409Z","text":"现在其实对我们大大有利","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30d7bb5e05172ce72e0c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q6c6ab52ca59e3fe3986d","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":750,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-08T06:27:44.164Z","text":"检方这个量刑陈述简直是灾难","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c6ab52ca59e3fe3986d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q245bc1e80a8e39578657","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":751,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-08T06:30:18.857Z","text":"现在不止要给法庭 你还要知道怎么用司法攻击","edited":false,"reply_to":"q998bb08314e1f6e953c8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q245bc1e80a8e39578657","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q998bb08314e1f6e953c8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q10088fed3f8caa20d6eb","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":752,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-04-08T06:30:42.270Z","text":"你们要行动啊，我看了急","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10088fed3f8caa20d6eb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qa2950dd2517ab3a00f95","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":753,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-08T06:31:03.852Z","text":"一切尽在掌握","edited":false,"reply_to":"q10088fed3f8caa20d6eb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa2950dd2517ab3a00f95","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10088fed3f8caa20d6eb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q56c381b450c996c454b5","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":754,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-04-08T06:31:07.325Z","text":"我是已经看不懂了，你们研究得像高等数学一样我看不懂了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56c381b450c996c454b5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q9de2b254b42aad18bfec","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":755,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T06:34:05.014Z","text":"检方引用受害者陈述了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa59f7cc8e1a27d26411c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9de2b254b42aad18bfec","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa59f7cc8e1a27d26411c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q6c70337cc504441087ab","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":756,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T06:35:06.503Z","text":"大部分都是在说郭继续指挥，继续见青藤他们，指挥tdccp，搞律师费","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c70337cc504441087ab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q7e12bcbd35f8fee9887c","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":757,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-08T06:35:16.107Z","text":"这个很有问题","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6c70337cc504441087ab","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e12bcbd35f8fee9887c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6c70337cc504441087ab","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qd928c883e922647384de","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":758,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T06:35:23.730Z","text":"所以让多判郭几年","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd928c883e922647384de","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qeb4dd7853ab12ba6c360","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":759,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-08T06:35:24.310Z","text":"这个要让他们拿出证据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb4dd7853ab12ba6c360","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q9ce2bf4ab21158e78b25","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":760,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T06:35:59.773Z","text":"检方引用受害者不需要核实，除非检方明知道这是不实的，还引用，那就是违规","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ce2bf4ab21158e78b25","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q73c55dd6185b5ccd2d82","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":761,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T06:36:57.530Z","text":"检方怎么可能不知道这些是不实的？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73c55dd6185b5ccd2d82","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q9ddf7c5abe2358fbeaf8","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":762,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-08T06:37:00.311Z","text":"我怎么感觉检方把这些郭在继续指挥诈骗的受害者陈述拿出来，倒是在给被告添加翻案材料。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6c70337cc504441087ab","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ddf7c5abe2358fbeaf8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.co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他还怎么骗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q10088fed3f8caa20d6eb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6d6f16ab468082f3553","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10088fed3f8caa20d6eb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qbdf864f54c1622323925","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":765,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-08T06:38:30.078Z","text":"就算郭真在mdc里指挥，那也是检方在纵容郭指挥。这叫做造案。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbdf864f54c1622323925","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q5d7f751fd97c7b2b1ff1","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":766,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T06:38:35.616Z","text":"快量刑了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf6d6f16ab468082f3553","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d7f751fd97c7b2b1ff1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6d6f16ab468082f3553","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qc5455b02cbfb84edf2db","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":767,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T06:39:08.486Z","text":"有这么搞得吗？明知道同案犯去见郭，检方一点行动都没有？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbdf864f54c1622323925","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5455b02cbfb84edf2db","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbdf864f54c1622323925","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qfffe553c951bc71500a9","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":768,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T06:39:31.981Z","text":"受害者继续受害，二次受害","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfffe553c951bc71500a9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q106c7a603467a819d674","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":769,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-08T06:39:45.975Z","text":"有","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc5455b02cbfb84edf2db","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q106c7a603467a819d674","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5455b02cbfb84edf2db","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qcfde94c313b6ea2e6e7f","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":770,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T06:39:56.597Z","text":"受害者告诉检方，检方不理","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfde94c313b6ea2e6e7f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qcca71f8d3a1681ff2d0b","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":771,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T06:40:07.374Z","text":"检方太无能了吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcca71f8d3a1681ff2d0b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q6377831e4a3ab08d0774","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":772,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-08T06:40:38.844Z","text":"因为被告摆烂啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6377831e4a3ab08d0774","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q04509592e479fa22c658","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":773,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-08T06:40:52.892Z","text":"辩方也不提","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q04509592e479fa22c658","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"qcae9a61e009a155f6bc7","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":774,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T06:41:10.538Z","text":"被告律师如果装瞎，那真是无效辩护了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6377831e4a3ab08d0774","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcae9a61e009a155f6bc7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6377831e4a3ab08d0774","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000099"},{"id":"q98de879ae30879019819","batch_id":"batch-000099","seq":775,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-08T06:41:25.685Z","text":"这么明显的点都不打","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q98de879ae30879019819","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_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