{"id":"batch-000100","number":100,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-04-09T11:09:55.912Z","date_end":"2026-04-13T05:09:26.629Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 100 (Apr 9, 2026 – Apr 13, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Discussions center on procedural boundaries, financial flows, and legal strategies in the case. Participants debate victim definitions and loss calculations, contrasting established narratives against demands for itemized proof. Debates also examine alleged conspiracies, farm loan destinations, and defense efficacy. Crucially, participants dispute sentencing filings in ECF 822 and ECF 833, assess asset recovery rights under Section 853(n), and weigh Second Circuit appeal prospects amid internal governance tensions.","guide_en":[{"title":"Victim Definition and Challenging Post-Trial Designations: New Victims, Victim Rosters, and Contested Victim Boundaries","description":"Participants debate whether designated individuals qualify as victims and question prosecution assumptions regarding investor status.","message_ids":["q650085a4c4fb83f12828","q1bd438f9479f18bd81e5"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q650085a4c4fb83f12828","summary_en":"him*** questions whether Ava is considered a victim in the proceedings."},{"message_id":"q1bd438f9479f18bd81e5","summary_en":"him*** disputes why Ava claims the prosecution was mistaken in treating everyone as a victim."}]},{"title":"Conflicts Over Loss Calculations and Recoverable Scope: 550 Million, 3.5 Million, Individualized Calculations, and Actual 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petitioners.","message_ids":["q6f8f94c3a4f1e87c58fa","q0395c22574c9e55e8399","q3ecbcf04b517e7ef2e09"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q6f8f94c3a4f1e87c58fa","summary_en":"reb*** contends that Section 853(n) ancillary proceedings require individualized timely petitions and do not automatically distribute forfeited assets to non-petitioning investors."},{"message_id":"q0395c22574c9e55e8399","summary_en":"reb*** cites past litigation to argue that investors must intervene individually rather than risk having funds diverted again."},{"message_id":"q3ecbcf04b517e7ef2e09","summary_en":"sar*** disputes reb***'s stance, criticizing the dismissal of unrepresented investors after previously advocating on their behalf."}]},{"title":"Narratives of Prosecution-Defense Collusion: Allegations of Alliances, Cover-Ups, Behind-the-Scenes Direction, and Moralized Motives","description":"Participants allege covert cooperation between prosecution and defense teams while celebrating disruptions to purported 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geopolitical rumors regarding overseas military operatives to argue that hostile agents are pervasive."},{"message_id":"qac6b2c38bf10f6c26f9d","summary_en":"kir*** contends that Wang was likely acting as a covert agent."}]}],"summary":"讨论围绕同一案件主要分三线。其一是程序与身份边界，成员对“新受害者”、受害人范围与损失可核验性意见分歧明显：有立场坚持既有叙事，有立场要求按逐项证据重算。其二是人物与资金链，围绕郭、青、余等关系，以及农场借贷与资金去向展开共谋、配合、截留等假设，证据强度与推理边界被持续争论。其三是后续法律路径与司法预期，焦点在辩护有效性、量刑节点（822/833/853(n)）与二审翻盘可能性，同时群体治理与话语管理本身也成为争议源，讨论逐步由法理转向身份化和制度失信叙事。","guide":[{"title":"受害者定义与败诉后属性可否推翻：新受害者、受害清单、受害人身份边界成争点","message_ids":["q650085a4c4fb83f12828","q1bd438f9479f18bd81e5"]},{"title":"损失口径与可追赃范围冲突：5.5亿、350万、逐人核算与真实投资金额","message_ids":["q0bf3682fa54c78631f2b","q6abd148d6c3c11b8376f","q01531a63bdefd19f92e8"]},{"title":"农场与相关主体资金去向争议：借贷账目、截留推断与受益路径","message_ids":["qab7923420093e82baaa2","qf4133934587d2bb914d1","q48f67aeb760333b918eb"]},{"title":"郭青余等是否形成共谋链：角色叙事中交织“联动”与“单点行为”两种解读","message_ids":["q0667463a4a085a95e306","q87e4798dc4e2205350c7","q5e830259e0a12410a9a8"]},{"title":"王艳平及核心证词是否等同配合：认罪、证言是否“定死”结论被反复拆解","message_ids":["q7428338a627aaeac5b33","q537d581197983c715f41","q4aa7169f9c3eb04046f1"]},{"title":"辩护策略是否失效：是否遗漏关键程序问题、未保留上诉点与量刑辩护口径不足","message_ids":["q957c23859ad5e3bdec83","qf0a7eb64bdca3689c38b","q50d37328b2329c7a8b2d"]},{"title":"量刑与上诉路径争辩：822/833文本、二巡与是否能重开事实认定","message_ids":["q0148c305e46c9b29a6e4","q61701d91a605898a92d4","qdf9c653b7ce5d5e4275b"]},{"title":"853(n)及裁量边界被当作关键分水岭：赢过后是否能覆盖全部相关人","message_ids":["q6f8f94c3a4f1e87c58fa","q0395c22574c9e55e8399","q3ecbcf04b517e7ef2e09"]},{"title":"检辩是否存在配合叙事：联盟、洗地、幕后导演与检务动机道德化指控并存","message_ids":["q4e9b726621830641124b","q3a1b7ee5bb6a8ac4db14","q2682466abe7b697f8ec8"]},{"title":"群体治理与舆论控制：刷屏、抓特务、外部帖文与信息脚本化的高压管理争论","message_ids":["q11ae1ec3e0db00437708","q4c1e9a63d94ea7addf64","q9f0f2dea6cae08137574"]},{"title":"后续行动分歧：自诉、报案、是否再动员对抗，或转为等待关键司法动作","message_ids":["q1aad9299549f3e7f1b5b","qb20caf090e0ef5e7ba57","qe95f1457df2f4ac0e685"]},{"title":"司法中立与制度信任：法官独立性、监管角色、CVRA和程序平衡被反复上提","message_ids":["q71f3bf79cb6e3770c96c","qc6343d24b2ac7bbe1ca4","qf7d1e4beb7b65b094d5b"]},{"title":"动员叙事与身份猜测扩散：特务、背叛、政治阴谋等推断放大群体撕裂","message_ids":["q6395ab572044e55f4899","qac6b2c38bf10f6c26f9d"]}],"closed":true,"is_finalized":true,"updated_at":"2026-09-06T17:35:26.080Z","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_batch","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100","base_batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000100","page":1,"page_size":200,"total_pages":5,"has_more":true,"next_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000100?page=2","prev_url":null,"messages":[{"id":"q5ef63f0b3917855601f9","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":1,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-09T11:09:55.912Z","text":"记不清了😆","edited":false,"reply_to":"q98f4635d0d7c0a223552","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ef63f0b3917855601f9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q98f4635d0d7c0a223552","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qfa170fc3d28aacf220bf","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":2,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-09T11:10:01.492Z","text":"307","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5ef63f0b3917855601f9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa170fc3d28aacf220bf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ef63f0b3917855601f9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qee0c814e201e44c76fa9","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":3,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-09T11:21:39.962Z","text":"https://x.com/sendxicptohell/status/2042147656030679421?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee0c814e201e44c76fa9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q46932825f9924e82628a","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":4,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-09T11:32:57.402Z","text":"现在tdccp被检方扔出来了，三火帮的还怎么玩儿？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46932825f9924e82628a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q8b10edcbd5a27b920e42","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":5,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-09T11:34:09.238Z","text":"这些带风向的现在也多多少少提出了一些问题、揭露了不少漏洞。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qee0c814e201e44c76fa9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b10edcbd5a27b920e42","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee0c814e201e44c76fa9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-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不认罪","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb18fd205853cbe369c83","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e830259e0a12410a9a8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb18fd205853cbe369c83","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q0667463a4a085a95e306","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":8,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-09T11:47:00.893Z","text":"就是这个意思\n青自己都快死了 还在帮HEX推荐宣誓书 掩护余","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1f35c4aa6e94619c3142","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0667463a4a085a95e306","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f35c4aa6e94619c3142","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q87e4798dc4e2205350c7","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":9,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-09T11:48:21.247Z","text":"不就阿哲 [删节：成员身份] 和那些农场主\n一边刑事案登记受害者 一边破产案登记债权人 两头吃","edited":true,"reply_to":"qe8b28f63ceceeb20417a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87e4798dc4e2205350c7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe8b28f63ceceeb20417a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qfc21994b88292d9df046","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":10,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-09T11:50:25.781Z","text":"那些农场主的投名状就是去检方登记当受害者，而不是郭提名认可的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q87e4798dc4e2205350c7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc21994b88292d9df046","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87e4798dc4e2205350c7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qf4dcecb4aa22d52a3c86","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":11,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-09T11:52:21.364Z","text":"估计是这样 农场主同意刑事案登记受害者 比如那126受害者陈述\n即使被 Luc 破产案Rico追钱 青们帮忙出律师费 和Luc和解 比如火来\n不同意的 打成伪类 污名化 个人和家庭信息被卖给国安","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfc21994b88292d9df046","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4dcecb4aa22d52a3c86","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc21994b88292d9df046","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q283f4a67e5e3850ac578","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":12,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-09T11:55:47.082Z","text":"据说 韩国的投资 完全是被农场主截流 压根没有汇到美国这边\n也就是说 和郭 不搭界","edited":false,"reply_to":"q375417665ea5bc008cb5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q283f4a67e5e3850ac578","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q375417665ea5bc008cb5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qc68b805001d46f47b375","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":13,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-09T12:01:07.826Z","text":"老朴那会就这样吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q283f4a67e5e3850ac578","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc68b805001d46f47b375","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q283f4a67e5e3850ac578","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q71773d2932b6ecb8a867","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":14,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-09T12:04:27.756Z","text":"那就不清楚了 哈恩那边 据说是几个农场的投资都到天池农场主","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71773d2932b6ecb8a867","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q70081a6f596a653479ca","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":15,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-09T12:16:33.685Z","text":"检方说tdccp导致新的受害者？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q61a5d2566fd59483397d","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70081a6f596a653479ca","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q15d0c754e86d42b9cba8","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":16,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-09T12:16:54.055Z","text":"那就是说承认tdccp是犯罪了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15d0c754e86d42b9cba8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qb37900b918e55aa5a612","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":17,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-09T12:38:01.061Z","text":"在法官一锤子没敲下来之前，只能说是潜在受害者，因为陪审团已经定罪。法官再定罪之后，就是真正的受害者了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb18fd205853cbe369c83","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb37900b918e55aa5a612","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb18fd205853cbe369c83","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q535b2b9d789d3e426374","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":18,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-09T12:38:40.599Z","text":"至于证明损失之类的，那是庭审之前，辩方律师应该做的事，核实登记的受害者的损失。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q535b2b9d789d3e426374","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qc00b0fa94afdc2a21fe7","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":19,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-09T12:40:12.616Z","text":"现在陪审团已经定罪了，诈骗和洗钱，就算你觉得你没损失没被骗，你也受到影响了。反正这个案子就是乱。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc00b0fa94afdc2a21fe7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qd6cd4fe07843b4d351f4","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":20,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-09T12:41:25.123Z","text":"如果你不想当受害者，推翻陪审团定罪是正道。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6cd4fe07843b4d351f4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q3ea2192bd0ed6ed7163e","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":21,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-09T12:42:29.754Z","text":"只投资了gtv那些人，确实不能是受害者，因为gtv无罪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ea2192bd0ed6ed7163e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qac872e4376a4de3eaedb","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":22,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-09T12:42:53.121Z","text":"检方从来不说gtv无罪的事情","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qac872e4376a4de3eaedb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qce27e1291665bb5b8f70","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":23,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-09T12:44:35.561Z","text":"老朴那会说已经汇到总部了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q71773d2932b6ecb8a867","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce27e1291665bb5b8f70","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71773d2932b6ecb8a867","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q28d9e01d4db77dc46808","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":24,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-09T12:47:50.702Z","text":"砸锅的早就扒余建明了，于建明在郭被抓之前拒绝郭要求战友加入洗脚所的要求，郭被抓之后和[删节：成员身份]打的火热","edited":true,"reply_to":"q1f35c4aa6e94619c3142","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q28d9e01d4db77dc46808","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f35c4aa6e94619c3142","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qde5eb03f431cfb6c24c4","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":25,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-09T12:49:48.409Z","text":"王艳平的作用估计是指控郭文贵是boss","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf3780f88756aa1a24993","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/mess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郭的前律师 [屏蔽词] rina 在第一天庭审 就说王是郭的副手 余是帮郭家族理财的顾问","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4aa7169f9c3eb04046f1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q1e877131143980b353eb","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":29,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-09T12:58:35.544Z","text":"王主要是GTV Saraca 的转账和同意检方没收","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e877131143980b353eb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q4f7f48a22926b2244779","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":30,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-09T13:00:24.754Z","text":"我觉得，郭这个案子，比较上层的人，见多识广的人，一看就知道怎么回事儿，就是普通中国人看不懂。他们也想看看这些普通中国人什么时候能看懂。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc291c5ab4c645d051662","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f7f48a22926b2244779","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc291c5ab4c645d051662","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qe3f5f738c7f5774c7177","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":31,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-09T13:01:21.443Z","text":"对，郭辩方律师就是挖坑。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4aa7169f9c3eb04046f1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3f5f738c7f5774c7177","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4aa7169f9c3eb04046f1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q537d581197983c715f41","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":32,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-09T13:01:21.931Z","text":"很多人 看到王认罪的时候 就明白接下来郭案的走向了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4f7f48a22926b2244779","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q537d581197983c715f41","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f7f48a22926b2244779","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qa5688f3e1cdb1c0432a8","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":33,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-09T13:02:09.032Z","text":"检方说，王自己说她就是执行者，郭让她干什么她就干什么","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1e877131143980b353eb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5688f3e1cdb1c0432a8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e877131143980b353eb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q26efd5a36f75e36e8832","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":34,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-09T13:15:17.079Z","text":"这怕是她和检方达成的协议吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa5688f3e1cdb1c0432a8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26efd5a36f75e36e8832","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5688f3e1cdb1c0432a8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q5cff50c346aaeaf90f20","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":35,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-09T13:17:10.692Z","text":"好像是在她被抓之前，她就这么给别人说了，检方是引用","edited":false,"reply_to":"q26efd5a36f75e36e8832","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5cff50c346aaeaf90f20","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26efd5a36f75e36e8832","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q58fa196981b733a664a5","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":36,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-09T13:17:19.578Z","text":"你们自己查查","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58fa196981b733a664a5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qfafa9e66e6c36de9c50f","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":37,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-04-09T13:23:46.178Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/2042231922269765851?s=20","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfafa9e66e6c36de9c50f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qf08db9fe2a667471b661","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":38,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-09T14:23:23.687Z","text":"这4000网格员的作用，就是把中英文输入法的data 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成了欺诈买飞机\nhttps://x.com/hithere18823351/status/2042237282824958254?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf08db9fe2a667471b661","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q7d91ff739d2346e779a1","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":39,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-09T14:27:20.789Z","text":"再配合几个[屏蔽词]辩方，本来该无罪辩护，成了祈求少判几年，不就变相承认有罪了\nhttps://x.com/hithere18823351/status/2042238416402702507?s=46","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d91ff739d2346e779a1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q29f64e575371619f5d89","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":40,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-09T15:04:35.598Z","text":"他说的没错","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd3061057d9b75460c6e3","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29f64e575371619f5d89","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qab9681eed210f60f965d","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":41,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-09T15:16:49.953Z","text":"辩方脑袋被驴踢了，怎么返还不实际了，钱从哪来回哪去，so 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别慌","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc534ff063121b5253969","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q953f71e4ba02a485eb18","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":55,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-09T15:32:53.964Z","text":"赶快查一下，我在喜韩也有","edited":false,"reply_to":"q375417665ea5bc008cb5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q953f71e4ba02a485eb18","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q375417665ea5bc008cb5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q84cd98fc6e1447b6317a","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":56,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-09T15:37:02.593Z","text":"https://x.com/percy43508644/status/2042222622734262582?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84cd98fc6e1447b6317a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q06adc99fdc4629c18878","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":57,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-09T15:46:28.738Z","text":"好像是老朴汇不出去，最后cusmos 帮着把喜韩的钱汇出去了，最后cusmos就取代老朴成了农场主？我一度好后悔当时老朴给我美国帐户让我直接汇我没要，走了sara那边","edited":false,"reply_to":"q283f4a67e5e3850ac578","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06adc99fdc4629c18878","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q283f4a67e5e3850ac578","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q43cede3864f904dc7fe6","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":58,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-09T16:05:57.366Z","text":"直播太多了，辩方律师哪知道，关键检方有“受害人”提供相关直播视频，辩方却没有联盟提供相关直播视频，而辩方律师又不理独立的战友个体，跟他们联系都不搭理","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4204c9d83b7d1070c685","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43cede3864f904dc7fe6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4204c9d83b7d1070c685","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q705fca405f63b6b300d1","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":59,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-09T16:06:34.746Z","text":"辩方不能和联盟合作的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q43cede3864f904dc7fe6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q705fca405f63b6b300d1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q43cede3864f904dc7fe6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q0c03d13f60987215a4a3","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":60,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-09T16:06:40.822Z","text":"联盟是同案犯","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c03d13f60987215a4a3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qd8a3624f41ee7f9fc1b7","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":61,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-09T16:06:53.956Z","text":"辩方只能代表郭的利益","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8a3624f41ee7f9fc1b7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qeea2e91ba9aa3c6552b1","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":62,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-09T16:07:04.891Z","text":"同案犯和郭有利益冲突","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeea2e91ba9aa3c6552b1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q0e380d04f5f3b9cb1ab6","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":63,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-09T16:07:16.097Z","text":"辩方更不能和受害者合作","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e380d04f5f3b9cb1ab6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q25195ac5222cea056d96","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":64,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-09T16:07:42.112Z","text":"受害者只能联系检方，你要是对检方有意见，只能独立上法庭提交","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25195ac5222cea056d96","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qd134fc34fa84cc7c93bb","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":65,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-09T16:08:24.632Z","text":"检方好像蹲在盖特上，一有能钻空子的视频就抓住了，多次引用直播，辩方一次都没用过","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd134fc34fa84cc7c93bb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qf9537e8b75931eebca45","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":66,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-09T16:08:46.464Z","text":"不要对他们抱有期待了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9537e8b75931eebca45","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q3cadcedbd1a22a1ce700","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":67,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-09T16:13:45.298Z","text":"很明显检方办这个案的决心和认真努力，辩方律师根本不能比，完全不对称的，郭从哪里能打到律师能够拼尽全力为他战斗的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qee66a15d9ea671858931","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3cadcedbd1a22a1ce700","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q9575d610a90771ad6d18","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":68,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-09T16:14:17.769Z","text":"郭不可能找到这种律师","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3cadcedbd1a22a1ce700","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9575d610a90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是检方登记受害人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q641652d9ed9237162eb2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b225ab8047b5b57ae31","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q641652d9ed9237162eb2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q4ba91f09ae01a2900a22","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":82,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-09T22:34:54.658Z","text":"身份混淆","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ba91f09ae01a2900a22","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q9ac1a4776171d23602c1","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":83,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-09T22:35:02.562Z","text":"他鼓动给辩方律师写支持信","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ac1a4776171d23602c1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q79a8a7017594c6f59633","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":84,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-09T22:35:17.554Z","text":"这些信全都废了 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remand","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb20caf090e0ef5e7ba57","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qcd4735d2f3eb126ec876","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":87,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-09T22:37:08.983Z","text":"这种你再被收买也没用的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd4735d2f3eb126ec876","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q220fc94d5dfa572ff9b3","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":88,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-04-09T23:33:31.437Z","text":"泰山，到现在还在推tdccp卡。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5ec34888aa9baa28737f","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q220fc94d5dfa572ff9b3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qd50d2ffb34dc721167c6","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":89,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-09T23:35:05.462Z","text":"它们认为组织上已经把美国政府搞定了，只会用它们的犯罪行为来让被告承担，不会对它们认真。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd50d2ffb34dc721167c6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qe448b8ca62c106f47ace","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":90,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-04-09T23:35:16.215Z","text":"那么购买了tdccp卡的投资者，就可以发自诉邮件了吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfd2a8c3486d26a2c4bdd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe448b8ca62c106f47ace","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd2a8c3486d26a2c4bdd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qd333b02466090111f7c6","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":91,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-04-09T23:36:03.703Z","text":"联盟使劲的骗，然后全算到郭先生头上","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd50d2ffb34dc721167c6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd333b02466090111f7c6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd50d2ffb34dc721167c6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qdea5c7b5b056296289a0","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":92,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-09T23:36:39.906Z","text":"以后被告转到监狱后，南区还可以再疯狂一些，隔三差五说被告还在指挥诈骗，应该一直关小黑屋关到死。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdea5c7b5b056296289a0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q6d71f44ea6d83d80fdc2","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":93,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-04-09T23:37:40.449Z","text":"是这个逻辑","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdea5c7b5b056296289a0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d71f44ea6d83d80fdc2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdea5c7b5b056296289a0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qdc033351a26212853220","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":94,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-09T23:38:11.185Z","text":"南区检察官办公室跟南区法院，以后应该从编制上给撤了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc033351a26212853220","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q35f5c664ed41c9627c98","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":95,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-10T00:37:03.404Z","text":"所以说 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kir***］ 伤心不，佳佳替AVA背锅","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q380ee6e3d64274bcfd29","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qb1e8975224b2221c00d2","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":123,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-10T01:22:59.560Z","text":"哈哈 有一点","edited":false,"reply_to":"q380ee6e3d64274bcfd29","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1e8975224b2221c00d2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q380ee6e3d64274bcfd29","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q6395ab572044e55f4899","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":124,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-10T01:24:38.735Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] \n潜伏的各路大神，肯定关注国际局势，前几天美国在Iran救F15的pilot，Iran当地采访，听得到背景声中文“抓活的”，说明海外PLA 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结果都是一样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61701d91a605898a92d4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q868c5a1fe2f47e7350ea","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":131,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-10T01:36:04.823Z","text":"各位很多人已经被瑞恩写到了二巡的死亡笔记上","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q868c5a1fe2f47e7350ea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q08eb59f47e03a56a0118","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":132,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-10T01:36:31.233Z","text":"你们想解套的 就自己去报案 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[删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":"q08eb59f47e03a56a0118","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa15eb591faa8d0b6cc94","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08eb59f47e03a56a0118","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qfbdd7cd4095c9a4e421b","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":142,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T03:56:48.248Z","text":"你是包输不赚！\n赢了没你的份，因为你一个自诉都没有写；\n输了，你肯定也会跟着受损失。🤪","edited":false,"reply_to":"q92b7746e5bb46ca53385","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfbdd7cd4095c9a4e421b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q92b7746e5bb46ca53385","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q10e312a6c283b57ebdc3","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":143,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2026-04-10T04:34:53.936Z","text":"https://x.com/percy43508644/status/2041884133786361858?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10e312a6c283b57ebdc3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q65dd5bcd86e7165d7a03","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":144,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2026-04-10T04:37:04.113Z","text":"各路大V 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没写自诉的2万人都会被郭抛弃 这就是你们追求的新中国","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfbdd7cd4095c9a4e421b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c269d6c7ca1fdca0fa1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfbdd7cd4095c9a4e421b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q3ded618e8627c9907008","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":149,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:11:25.115Z","text":"第二个共产党站起来了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ded618e8627c9907008","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q8818eccd4f6c015cdfb9","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":150,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:12:21.795Z","text":"合计着这些人这几年的苦白吃了 利用完就扔对吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8818eccd4f6c015cdfb9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qea3511c66343c4964af4","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":151,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T05:18:00.201Z","text":"输就是输，赢就是赢。\n那2万人如果认为是郭害的，也可以去写自诉，可以从输变成赢。\n我们不参与任何组织，也不会接管中国，也没有能力这样做。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3ded618e8627c9907008","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea3511c66343c4964af4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ded618e8627c9907008","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qeade9dc57b9207fc9997","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":152,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T05:20:48.774Z","text":"没能力，而不是没时间","edited":false,"reply_to":"q726242fa32d7fbe87241","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeade9dc57b9207fc9997","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qcbdda84f73ac22f7efa2","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":153,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:24:41.465Z","text":"你们做新中国领导 我做平民不行吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcbdda84f73ac22f7efa2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q9647dae1f1758876dd1b","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":154,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:25:37.379Z","text":"螺丝哥副总统 瑞恩国务卿 我做新中国公民","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9647dae1f1758876dd1b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qc7a1e435bebeafc8a862","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":155,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T05:25:52.958Z","text":"不是对错的问题，而是你没有行动，没有为自己的利益去争取，只等别人来行动，自己想分一杯羹。而别人争取到的东西不愿分给你","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb95fc96b9b27916454a1","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7a1e435bebeafc8a862","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qd3a2ca9c231d905d7f94","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":156,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-10T05:27:11.882Z","text":"这些被点名的 怕是网格员里面 最近没有积极转发青们的消息 被青认为是可能反水的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q76fea26d1dd4b12ad85f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3a2ca9c231d905d7f94","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76fea26d1dd4b12ad85f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q960c7e90742392b9e8cb","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":157,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:27:51.731Z","text":"靠你们把郭救出来 我等着喜币发展就行了 我对新中国股份和官位没兴趣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q960c7e90742392b9e8cb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qfe0269786149666d34ce","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":158,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:28:48.134Z","text":"螺丝哥是要做官的 以后出现在直播间割韭菜 我没这个目标","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe0269786149666d34ce","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q5fb0d50393f92c918fa3","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":159,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:30:22.385Z","text":"目的就是你们把郭救出来 我等着g系列发展啊 你看不懂？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5fb0d50393f92c918fa3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qf2fe6788620a8251951a","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":160,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T05:30:39.200Z","text":"瑞恩说了，这场爆料革命都是输家、韭菜，只有少数几个写了自诉的才是赢家。\n我自己都不一定是赢家，因为我的自诉一个都没有上传，但是我在争取。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q960c7e90742392b9e8cb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2fe6788620a8251951a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q960c7e90742392b9e8cb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q9f592fbb459b93a0e0bb","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":161,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:31:07.832Z","text":"以后历史怎么写","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf2fe6788620a8251951a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f592fbb459b93a0e0bb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2fe6788620a8251951a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qf222263a0f1e646bf30c","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":162,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:31:34.511Z","text":"新中国总统把2万追随者搞得倾家荡产？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf222263a0f1e646bf30c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qd67a2d3a13202a3e7c6a","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":163,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T05:32:42.336Z","text":"不能以是否做官来定输赢。你的思维还是跳不出那种圈子。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfe0269786149666d34ce","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd67a2d3a13202a3e7c6a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe0269786149666d34ce","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q162324d94bd19536f3bb","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":164,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:33:20.584Z","text":"你自诉没上传是不是和我一个结局 被喜国抛弃","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd67a2d3a13202a3e7c6a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q162324d94bd19536f3bb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd67a2d3a13202a3e7c6a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q071016d0d482f4499498","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":165,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T05:33:55.411Z","text":"你真是满脑子的屎，郭什么时候想当什么总统呀？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf222263a0f1e646bf30c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q071016d0d482f4499498","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf222263a0f1e646bf30c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q4ce17e335f901a384bd0","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":166,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T05:40:13.974Z","text":"你个SB，我们追求的是自由、不被奴役！\n我们根本就不想奴役别人，我们什么时候奴役过你呀？逼你干过什么事吗？！","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe9bf20f9557505572d86","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ce17e335f901a384bd0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q0fdcc208dead31a3dd57","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":167,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:41:38.726Z","text":"写是你们的自由 不写也是我们的自由 但是你们说不写的人会被抛弃 那你们精神肯定是出问题了 因为逻辑不通 上帝不会干出恶魔的事情","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0fdcc208dead31a3dd57","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qdbad60a462a07671223c","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":168,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T05:41:39.980Z","text":"你又在称他为“喜国总统”！你真是放屁！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q437955234e4864ea1f3e","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbad60a462a07671223c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q3e2abfaa9f72f444964a","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":169,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T05:42:41.488Z","text":"被时代抛弃，又不是我们抛弃的，你我之间本来就是独立的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0fdcc208dead31a3dd57","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e2abfaa9f72f444964a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0fdcc208dead31a3dd57","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qce9dd3ed6001ba545c17","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":170,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:43:05.874Z","text":"那以后怎么宣传","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce9dd3ed6001ba545c17","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q17be48f670c82c1298be","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":171,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:43:20.966Z","text":"新中国联邦人是全世界最幸福的人？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17be48f670c82c1298be","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q5db16d1a7f0efc11a91d","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":172,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:43:27.166Z","text":"要点脸不","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5db16d1a7f0efc11a91d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q11429d4cc913724bd64a","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":173,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:43:40.934Z","text":"继续割新韭菜？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11429d4cc913724bd64a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q5cf73e0a611de822daf6","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":174,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T05:43:50.657Z","text":"我们不宣传任务东西！","edited":false,"reply_to":"qce9dd3ed6001ba545c17","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5cf73e0a611de822daf6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce9dd3ed6001ba545c17","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q38a7316974e51f475f34","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":175,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:44:12.091Z","text":"这事情解决不了 就不要扛大旗了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38a7316974e51f475f34","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q0b187707c696bcda270f","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":176,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T05:44:15.759Z","text":"只是在研究法律文件","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b187707c696bcda270f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q9cca6d3bfe4289306feb","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":177,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T05:46:00.006Z","text":"我们不扛大旗，在联盟也没有职位、并受联盟打压，我们都是去中心化的[删节：成员身份]。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9cca6d3bfe4289306feb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q0b01c71a8563370b2bb3","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":178,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-10T05:46:13.532Z","text":"没了文悦 怎么[删节：成员身份]也越来越像 《让子弹飞》里的胡万\n要逼群里的人，当六子，剖腹证明只吃了一碗粉？越来越讨厌了啊 🤣 ［用户 xin***］","edited":true,"reply_to":"q9cca6d3bfe4289306feb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b01c71a8563370b2bb3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9cca6d3bfe4289306feb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q0f3ded0de523340fecc9","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":179,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:46:41.159Z","text":"我从来没说自诉是错的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f3ded0de523340fecc9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q839c250ea3d4b048fe0e","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":180,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:47:04.423Z","text":"我只是看不管不写的被你们说的一文不值","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q839c250ea3d4b048fe0e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qdce8dbc74d0056084229","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":181,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-10T05:47:31.369Z","text":"不用去和他解释那么多 他也是揣着明白装糊涂的高手 想要去和他解释 就进了他的trap🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5cf73e0a611de822daf6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdce8dbc74d0056084229","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5cf73e0a611de822daf6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q950f87684b4951064380","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":182,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:47:56.660Z","text":"你们是没有选择 但不能颠倒黑白","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q950f87684b4951064380","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qd6d0787e1eba60e74f95","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":183,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T05:48:55.791Z","text":"你会被时代抛弃，而不是被我们抛弃。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfcd6fac5833ad4ae5395","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6d0787e1eba60e74f95","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qa8dae213f02ed680238e","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":184,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:49:21.971Z","text":"我被抛弃 等于2万人被抛弃","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8dae213f02ed680238e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q0f92aae0332405cd25df","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":185,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:49:31.665Z","text":"能抛弃我们 也有一天会抛弃你","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f92aae0332405cd25df","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q1dff688b0862186f6cad","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":186,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-10T05:50:05.764Z","text":"去MDC找你口中的喜国总统，要解释呗 \n在这内耗干嘛，喊了快8年了，小日本都被你喊回家了好吧🤣 ［用户 xin***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1dff688b0862186f6cad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qe95a47be1f3d7494995a","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":187,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:50:11.139Z","text":"当你面说别人坏话的人 当着别人的面也一定会说你 这么简单个道理","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe95a47be1f3d7494995a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qa0c490c4630195677c85","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":188,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:50:32.910Z","text":"能抛弃我们 一定会抛弃你们","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0c490c4630195677c85","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qb026c95e01eb802b0126","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":189,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T05:51:08.884Z","text":"我们对那2万人不用承担任何责任。\n他们自己可以想办法自救，不要再做蠢事。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa8dae213f02ed680238e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb026c95e01eb802b0126","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8dae213f02ed680238e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q68f95900f6d452e8b726","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":190,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:51:32.165Z","text":"我没填表 我比他们聪明多了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68f95900f6d452e8b726","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qe10f50b01a0e2b574df8","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":191,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:55:54.755Z","text":"你们继续聊 我[删节：隐私信息]去了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe10f50b01a0e2b574df8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q9732c842aec3d5f15e24","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":192,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T05:56:34.219Z","text":"你自己的命运怎么能被别人，包括郭文贵和共匪，左右呢？\n如果你被左右，那是因为你身上的奴性。我最看不起的人，大多数都是因为他们身上的奴性。我以前的很多好友，因为我发现了他们身上的奴性，我开始远离他们、看不起他们，不管他们是否有钱、是否当了官。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa0c490c4630195677c85","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9732c842aec3d5f15e24","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0c490c4630195677c85","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q3e2f68b993908e23ee1c","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":193,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T05:58:47.544Z","text":"不管砸郭挺郭，只要他们背后有主子，我一律鄙视它们。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e2f68b993908e23ee1c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q6f8f94c3a4f1e87c58fa","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":194,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-10T05:59:17.439Z","text":"是的，美国法律允许出现这种结果：同样都是 G 系列投资者，有人及时进入 853(n) ancillary proceeding 主张自己对特定资产有所有权、优先权、信托权、constructive trust、bailment、earmarking 等具体权益，法院可能返还给这些人；而没有主张的人，往往就只能被当作普通 unsecured creditor 或普通受害人。\n\n853(n) 不是自动替所有受害人平均分钱的程序，而是谁主张、谁举证、谁证明自己对特定资产拥有 superior interest，谁就可能拿回那部分财产。法院不会自动把一个人的胜诉扩展到所有没有出庭的人。 \n\n因此，法庭即使承认了部分投资者对某些 G Club、农场、喜交易所资金具有所有权，也不必然自动承认所有未介入投资者都有同样权利。那些没介入的人，法院通常会认为：\n\n他们没有及时主张；\n\n没有提交 sworn petition；\n\n没有证明具体资金与自己的关系；\n\n没有证明自己是 owner 而不仅仅是 creditor。\n\n\n在这种情况下，他们可能最后只能参加：\n\n破产分配；\n\nrestitution 分配；\n\nremission/remit 程序；\n\n普通债权人分配。\n\n\n而不是直接通过 853(n) 拿回特定资产。 \n\n更重要的是，853(n) 有很严格的时间限制。一般是在收到通知或公告后 30 天内提交 petition；如果不提交，很多法院认为第三方对相关财产的权利就会被 extinguished。 \n\n不过，如果一部分投资者已经成功证明：\n\n某类资产从来不属于被告；\n\n被告从未拥有控制权；\n\n某类账户本质上是代持、托管、信托、客户隔离资金；\n\n\n那这些认定对其他投资者会有很强的 persuasive value。虽然不自动适用于所有人，但会让后来其他投资者更容易主张“我的情况与已胜诉者相同，应适用同样逻辑”。\n\n所以，美国法律确实允许“争取的人拿回特定资产，没争取的人只剩普通债权”这种结果；但如果前面已经有人成功证明某类资产整体不属于被告，那么后面没介入的人仍然可以尝试利用这些认定，主张自己应得到同样待遇。\n评：那些想搭便车的，即使我们赢了，并不自动溯及与你，你还是得自己上。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f8f94c3a4f1e87c58fa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qc6eba8671bcb15a769f7","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":195,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T06:03:25.146Z","text":"这个群本来就是郭案讨论群，不研究美国法律，还研究啥？\n如果这个群不适合你，你完全可以离开。没人求你进来，你在这里反而添乱。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q78ce2678306f6dff37f2","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6eba8671bcb15a769f7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qb9cfd5070cb30626d6d1","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":196,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T06:07:57.423Z","text":"如果不研究美国法律，我们怎么可以发现郭的律师全是笨蛋、检方有司法欺诈、法官有偏见？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6cd1cbdb64f1b8a258d1","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9cfd5070cb30626d6d1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q3c762767b2150f097181","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":197,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T06:10:39.227Z","text":"你只是一个输不起的货。\n我也投了不少钱，用这些钱我可以一家人周游世界一圈。\n吃一堑长一智呗。\n只要活着，钱还能赚回来。钱是身外之物。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qea339fff8bcc98b563a2","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c762767b2150f097181","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q42e6a9baae3b0941e328","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":198,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T06:12:18.880Z","text":"我就是看着这些投资人好玩 图一乐不行吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42e6a9baae3b0941e328","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q0395c22574c9e55e8399","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":199,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-10T06:14:54.714Z","text":"之前夏其东起诉九指妖，结果是被骗款被左手导右手，如果不自己站出来，即使以后胜诉，又一个左手导右手在等着你。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6f8f94c3a4f1e87c58fa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0395c22574c9e55e8399","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f8f94c3a4f1e87c58fa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q3ecbcf04b517e7ef2e09","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":200,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T06:16:56.919Z","text":"你不是为2万投资人喊冤吗？这下又看人家的笑话了？我看你本身就是一个笑话、神经病。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q42e6a9baae3b0941e328","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ecbcf04b517e7ef2e09","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42e6a9baae3b0941e328","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000099","next_batch_id":"batch-000101"}