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不认罪","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb18fd205853cbe369c83","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e830259e0a12410a9a8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb18fd205853cbe369c83","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q0667463a4a085a95e306","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":8,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-09T11:47:00.893Z","text":"就是这个意思\n青自己都快死了 还在帮HEX推荐宣誓书 掩护余","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1f35c4aa6e94619c3142","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0667463a4a085a95e306","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f35c4aa6e94619c3142","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q87e4798dc4e2205350c7","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":9,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-09T11:48:21.247Z","text":"不就阿哲 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不搭界","edited":false,"reply_to":"q375417665ea5bc008cb5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q283f4a67e5e3850ac578","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q375417665ea5bc008cb5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qc68b805001d46f47b375","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":13,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-09T12:01:07.826Z","text":"老朴那会就这样吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q283f4a67e5e3850ac578","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc68b805001d46f47b375","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q283f4a67e5e3850ac578","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q71773d2932b6ecb8a867","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":14,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-09T12:04:27.756Z","text":"那就不清楚了 哈恩那边 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看到王认罪的时候 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成了欺诈买飞机\nhttps://x.com/hithere18823351/status/2042237282824958254?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf08db9fe2a667471b661","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q7d91ff739d2346e779a1","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":39,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-09T14:27:20.789Z","text":"再配合几个[屏蔽词]辩方，本来该无罪辩护，成了祈求少判几年，不就变相承认有罪了\nhttps://x.com/hithere18823351/status/2042238416402702507?s=46","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d91ff739d2346e779a1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q29f64e575371619f5d89","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":40,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-09T15:04:35.598Z","text":"他说的没错","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd3061057d9b75460c6e3","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29f64e575371619f5d89","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qab9681eed210f60f965d","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":41,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-09T15:16:49.953Z","text":"辩方脑袋被驴踢了，怎么返还不实际了，钱从哪来回哪去，so EASY","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1f35c4aa6e94619c3142","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab9681eed210f60f965d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f35c4aa6e94619c3142","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q31dc2d53a8cb45261821","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":42,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-09T15:22:19.567Z","text":"余转钱可能是用作金融投资，让钱生钱，一部分钱转入私人帐户，可能是收取了管理费，不过在现在检方指控连郭美找喜交所借款都不行，那他这些行为更不行了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1f35c4aa6e94619c3142","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31dc2d53a8cb45261821","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f35c4aa6e94619c3142","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q109f8c6a7fb20e665d93","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":43,"speaker":".an***","date":"2026-04-09T15:27:42.727Z","text":"没错，所以郭先生早就在直播里骂韩国天池农场的农场主私吞了战友们的钱。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q283f4a67e5e3850ac578","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q109f8c6a7fb20e665d93","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q283f4a67e5e3850ac578","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q1d59862178f931236d7b","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":44,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-09T15:28:20.630Z","text":"对啊，如果郭是骗子，和农场主是一伙的，可能这么说吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q109f8c6a7fb20e665d93","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d59862178f931236d7b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q109f8c6a7fb20e665d93","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q6a5b2818437899a4ab27","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":45,"speaker":".an***","date":"2026-04-09T15:28:22.536Z","text":"这个农场主是草根推荐的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a5b2818437899a4ab27","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q4ecba0aafe5b1d2d4920","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":46,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-09T15:28:40.806Z","text":"所以战友知道的真相比检方和法官要多","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ecba0aafe5b1d2d4920","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q27c3c381fd2929d53d41","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":47,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-09T15:29:01.017Z","text":"检方完全就是选择性指控，只说对被告不利的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27c3c381fd2929d53d41","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q760ac0fa8a06dafb0a14","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":48,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-09T15:29:07.889Z","text":"辩方装瞎","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q760ac0fa8a06dafb0a14","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q8d7775445788c36d2877","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":49,"speaker":".an***","date":"2026-04-09T15:29:45.146Z","text":"这应该是反击检方的一个点，农场主根本不听郭的指挥。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1d59862178f931236d7b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d7775445788c36d2877","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d59862178f931236d7b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qae81182acbcf386b942c","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":50,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-09T15:29:48.179Z","text":"现在出现第三方想说点实话，法官不让说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae81182acbcf386b942c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q4204c9d83b7d1070c685","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":51,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-09T15:30:32.583Z","text":"郭有很多直播，都可以用来反击","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8d7775445788c36d2877","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4204c9d83b7d1070c685","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d7775445788c36d2877","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q4c50b32bc00a1ef7b712","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":52,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-09T15:30:37.931Z"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别慌","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc534ff063121b5253969","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q953f71e4ba02a485eb18","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":55,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-09T15:32:53.964Z","text":"赶快查一下，我在喜韩也有","edited":false,"reply_to":"q375417665ea5bc008cb5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q953f71e4ba02a485eb18","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q375417665ea5bc008cb5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q84cd98fc6e1447b6317a","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":56,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-09T15:37:02.593Z","text":"https://x.com/percy43508644/status/2042222622734262582?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q84cd98fc6e1447b6317a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q06adc99fdc4629c18878","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":57,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-09T15:46:28.738Z","text":"好像是老朴汇不出去，最后cusmos 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是检方登记受害人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q641652d9ed9237162eb2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b225ab8047b5b57ae31","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q641652d9ed9237162eb2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q4ba91f09ae01a2900a22","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":82,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-09T22:34:54.658Z","text":"身份混淆","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ba91f09ae01a2900a22","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q9ac1a4776171d23602c1","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":83,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-09T22:35:02.562Z","text":"他鼓动给辩方律师写支持信","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ac1a4776171d23602c1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q79a8a7017594c6f59633","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":84,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-09T22:35:17.554Z","text":"这些信全都废了 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背后有一个总导演吴争","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3fd98881e9fe8c4a455","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q06e699b9a4aa433db2df","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":117,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-10T01:20:22.016Z","text":"检方能把第二届诈骗团伙的tdccp诈骗写进卷宗，挺让人意外的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06e699b9a4aa433db2df","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qc3803231fabe597e51c8","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":118,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-10T01:20:35.432Z","text":"就是互相卖啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q06e699b9a4aa433db2df","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc3803231fabe597e51c8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06e699b9a4aa433db2df","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q1aad9299549f3e7f1b5b","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":119,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-10T01:20:40.380Z","text":"检方的量刑文件已经完全塌房了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q06e699b9a4aa433db2df","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1aad9299549f3e7f1b5b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06e699b9a4aa433db2df","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qb35b0314c00ae9ab9836","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":120,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-10T01:21:04.513Z","text":"说明检方背后的势力，级别高于青藤","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb35b0314c00ae9ab9836","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qf0eba58bdccaeb1a8b11","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":121,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-10T01:21:54.384Z","text":"还有一点，说明AVA级别比青藤高，检方背后的只敢拿佳佳和青同框的照片","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0eba58bdccaeb1a8b11","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q380ee6e3d64274bcfd29","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":122,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-10T01:22:11.740Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ 伤心不，佳佳替AVA背锅","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q380ee6e3d64274bcfd29","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qb1e8975224b2221c00d2","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":123,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-10T01:22:59.560Z","text":"哈哈 有一点","edited":false,"reply_to":"q380ee6e3d64274bcfd29","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1e8975224b2221c00d2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q380ee6e3d64274bcfd29","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q6395ab572044e55f4899","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":124,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-10T01:24:38.735Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] \n潜伏的各路大神，肯定关注国际局势，前几天美国在Iran救F15的pilot，Iran当地采访，听得到背景声中文“抓活的”，说明海外PLA 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结果都是一样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61701d91a605898a92d4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q868c5a1fe2f47e7350ea","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":131,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-10T01:36:04.823Z","text":"各位很多人已经被瑞恩写到了二巡的死亡笔记上","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q868c5a1fe2f47e7350ea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q08eb59f47e03a56a0118","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":132,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-10T01:36:31.233Z","text":"你们想解套的 就自己去报案 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[删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":"q1aad9299549f3e7f1b5b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8bca88ef3c14b223632c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1aad9299549f3e7f1b5b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qa15eb591faa8d0b6cc94","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":141,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T03:51:07.024Z","text":"求你帮我夹带一个私活，把[删节：成员身份]这个墙内狗加入“挺郭”的法律文件当中，除非它来到此群坦白交待，还要在它拿工分的那个群做一个声明。🤪 [删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":"q08eb59f47e03a56a0118","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa15eb591faa8d0b6cc94","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08eb59f47e03a56a0118","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qfbdd7cd4095c9a4e421b","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":142,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T03:56:48.248Z","text":"你是包输不赚！\n赢了没你的份，因为你一个自诉都没有写；\n输了，你肯定也会跟着受损失。🤪","edited":false,"reply_to":"q92b7746e5bb46ca53385","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfbdd7cd4095c9a4e421b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q92b7746e5bb46ca53385","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q10e312a6c283b57ebdc3","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":143,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2026-04-10T04:34:53.936Z","text":"https://x.com/percy43508644/status/2041884133786361858?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10e312a6c283b57ebdc3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q65dd5bcd86e7165d7a03","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":144,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2026-04-10T04:37:04.113Z","text":"各路大V 凡是收钱的 监狱的大门向你们敞开了，慢慢享受RICO 法案。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65dd5bcd86e7165d7a03","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q638b9d10faa1fb58fa4b","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":145,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T04:51:29.533Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]昨天在1.5小时之内在它的打卡群《玫瑰弹药库》连发13条主要是郭的视频。\n这让人想起了《永不消失的电波》工作到最后一刻。\n在那个群，只有它有权限发信息，其他人只有点赞的份上，它咋不来此群发言呢？@ [删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q638b9d10faa1fb58fa4b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q76fea26d1dd4b12ad85f","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":146,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T05:03:55.417Z","text":"https://x.com/grassroots79241/status/2042432309543252102?s=12&t=eXMPp66CZUFD_7vvMedcSA","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76fea26d1dd4b12ad85f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qe1a708e0fcd6fedf53ba","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":147,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T05:04:52.374Z","text":"搞错了，原来青藤还真有反应，他很愤怒。🤪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1a708e0fcd6fedf53ba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q4c269d6c7ca1fdca0fa1","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":148,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:11:05.000Z","text":"你的意思就是赢了 没写自诉的2万人都会被郭抛弃 这就是你们追求的新中国","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfbdd7cd4095c9a4e421b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c269d6c7ca1fdca0fa1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfbdd7cd4095c9a4e421b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q3ded618e8627c9907008","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":149,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:11:25.115Z","text":"第二个共产党站起来了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ded618e8627c9907008","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q8818eccd4f6c015cdfb9","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":150,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:12:21.795Z","text":"合计着这些人这几年的苦白吃了 利用完就扔对吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8818eccd4f6c015cdfb9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qea3511c66343c4964af4","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":151,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T05:18:00.201Z","text":"输就是输，赢就是赢。\n那2万人如果认为是郭害的，也可以去写自诉，可以从输变成赢。\n我们不参与任何组织，也不会接管中国，也没有能力这样做。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3ded618e8627c9907008","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea3511c66343c4964af4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ded618e8627c9907008","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qeade9dc57b9207fc9997","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":152,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T05:20:48.774Z","text":"没能力，而不是没时间","edited":false,"reply_to":"q726242fa32d7fbe87241","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeade9dc57b9207fc9997","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qcbdda84f73ac22f7efa2","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":153,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:24:41.465Z","text":"你们做新中国领导 我做平民不行吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcbdda84f73ac22f7efa2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q9647dae1f1758876dd1b","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":154,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:25:37.379Z","text":"螺丝哥副总统 瑞恩国务卿 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你看不懂？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5fb0d50393f92c918fa3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qf2fe6788620a8251951a","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":160,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T05:30:39.200Z","text":"瑞恩说了，这场爆料革命都是输家、韭菜，只有少数几个写了自诉的才是赢家。\n我自己都不一定是赢家，因为我的自诉一个都没有上传，但是我在争取。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q960c7e90742392b9e8cb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2fe6788620a8251951a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q960c7e90742392b9e8cb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q9f592fbb459b93a0e0bb","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":161,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:31:07.832Z","text":"以后历史怎么写","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf2fe6788620a8251951a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f592fbb459b93a0e0bb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2fe6788620a8251951a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qf222263a0f1e646bf30c","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":162,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:31:34.511Z","text":"新中国总统把2万追随者搞得倾家荡产？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf222263a0f1e646bf30c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qd67a2d3a13202a3e7c6a","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":163,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T05:32:42.336Z","text":"不能以是否做官来定输赢。你的思维还是跳不出那种圈子。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfe0269786149666d34ce","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd67a2d3a13202a3e7c6a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe0269786149666d34ce","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q162324d94bd19536f3bb","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":164,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:33:20.584Z","text":"你自诉没上传是不是和我一个结局 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但不能颠倒黑白","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q950f87684b4951064380","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qd6d0787e1eba60e74f95","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":183,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T05:48:55.791Z","text":"你会被时代抛弃，而不是被我们抛弃。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfcd6fac5833ad4ae5395","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd6d0787e1eba60e74f95","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qa8dae213f02ed680238e","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":184,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:49:21.971Z","text":"我被抛弃 等于2万人被抛弃","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8dae213f02ed680238e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q0f92aae0332405cd25df","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":185,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:49:31.665Z","text":"能抛弃我们 也有一天会抛弃你","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f92aae0332405cd25df","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q1dff688b0862186f6cad","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":186,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-10T05:50:05.764Z","text":"去MDC找你口中的喜国总统，要解释呗 \n在这内耗干嘛，喊了快8年了，小日本都被你喊回家了好吧🤣 ［用户 xin***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1dff688b0862186f6cad","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qe95a47be1f3d7494995a","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":187,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:50:11.139Z","text":"当你面说别人坏话的人 当着别人的面也一定会说你 这么简单个道理","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe95a47be1f3d7494995a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qa0c490c4630195677c85","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":188,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:50:32.910Z","text":"能抛弃我们 一定会抛弃你们","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0c490c4630195677c85","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qb026c95e01eb802b0126","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":189,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T05:51:08.884Z","text":"我们对那2万人不用承担任何责任。\n他们自己可以想办法自救，不要再做蠢事。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa8dae213f02ed680238e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb026c95e01eb802b0126","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8dae213f02ed680238e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q68f95900f6d452e8b726","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":190,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:51:32.165Z","text":"我没填表 我比他们聪明多了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68f95900f6d452e8b726","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qe10f50b01a0e2b574df8","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":191,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T05:55:54.755Z","text":"你们继续聊 我[删节：隐私信息]去了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe10f50b01a0e2b574df8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q9732c842aec3d5f15e24","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":192,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T05:56:34.219Z","text":"你自己的命运怎么能被别人，包括郭文贵和共匪，左右呢？\n如果你被左右，那是因为你身上的奴性。我最看不起的人，大多数都是因为他们身上的奴性。我以前的很多好友，因为我发现了他们身上的奴性，我开始远离他们、看不起他们，不管他们是否有钱、是否当了官。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa0c490c4630195677c85","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9732c842aec3d5f15e24","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0c490c4630195677c85","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q3e2f68b993908e23ee1c","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":193,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T05:58:47.544Z","text":"不管砸郭挺郭，只要他们背后有主子，我一律鄙视它们。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e2f68b993908e23ee1c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q6f8f94c3a4f1e87c58fa","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":194,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-10T05:59:17.439Z","text":"是的，美国法律允许出现这种结果：同样都是 G 系列投资者，有人及时进入 853(n) ancillary proceeding 主张自己对特定资产有所有权、优先权、信托权、constructive trust、bailment、earmarking 等具体权益，法院可能返还给这些人；而没有主张的人，往往就只能被当作普通 unsecured creditor 或普通受害人。\n\n853(n) 不是自动替所有受害人平均分钱的程序，而是谁主张、谁举证、谁证明自己对特定资产拥有 superior interest，谁就可能拿回那部分财产。法院不会自动把一个人的胜诉扩展到所有没有出庭的人。 \n\n因此，法庭即使承认了部分投资者对某些 G Club、农场、喜交易所资金具有所有权，也不必然自动承认所有未介入投资者都有同样权利。那些没介入的人，法院通常会认为：\n\n他们没有及时主张；\n\n没有提交 sworn petition；\n\n没有证明具体资金与自己的关系；\n\n没有证明自己是 owner 而不仅仅是 creditor。\n\n\n在这种情况下，他们可能最后只能参加：\n\n破产分配；\n\nrestitution 分配；\n\nremission/remit 程序；\n\n普通债权人分配。\n\n\n而不是直接通过 853(n) 拿回特定资产。 \n\n更重要的是，853(n) 有很严格的时间限制。一般是在收到通知或公告后 30 天内提交 petition；如果不提交，很多法院认为第三方对相关财产的权利就会被 extinguished。 \n\n不过，如果一部分投资者已经成功证明：\n\n某类资产从来不属于被告；\n\n被告从未拥有控制权；\n\n某类账户本质上是代持、托管、信托、客户隔离资金；\n\n\n那这些认定对其他投资者会有很强的 persuasive value。虽然不自动适用于所有人，但会让后来其他投资者更容易主张“我的情况与已胜诉者相同，应适用同样逻辑”。\n\n所以，美国法律确实允许“争取的人拿回特定资产，没争取的人只剩普通债权”这种结果；但如果前面已经有人成功证明某类资产整体不属于被告，那么后面没介入的人仍然可以尝试利用这些认定，主张自己应得到同样待遇。\n评：那些想搭便车的，即使我们赢了，并不自动溯及与你，你还是得自己上。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f8f94c3a4f1e87c58fa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qc6eba8671bcb15a769f7","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":195,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T06:03:25.146Z","text":"这个群本来就是郭案讨论群，不研究美国法律，还研究啥？\n如果这个群不适合你，你完全可以离开。没人求你进来，你在这里反而添乱。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q78ce2678306f6dff37f2","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6eba8671bcb15a769f7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qb9cfd5070cb30626d6d1","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":196,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T06:07:57.423Z","text":"如果不研究美国法律，我们怎么可以发现郭的律师全是笨蛋、检方有司法欺诈、法官有偏见？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6cd1cbdb64f1b8a258d1","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9cfd5070cb30626d6d1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q3c762767b2150f097181","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":197,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T06:10:39.227Z","text":"你只是一个输不起的货。\n我也投了不少钱，用这些钱我可以一家人周游世界一圈。\n吃一堑长一智呗。\n只要活着，钱还能赚回来。钱是身外之物。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qea339fff8bcc98b563a2","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c762767b2150f097181","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q42e6a9baae3b0941e328","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":198,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-10T06:12:18.880Z","text":"我就是看着这些投资人好玩 图一乐不行吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42e6a9baae3b0941e328","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q0395c22574c9e55e8399","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":199,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-10T06:14:54.714Z","text":"之前夏其东起诉九指妖，结果是被骗款被左手导右手，如果不自己站出来，即使以后胜诉，又一个左手导右手在等着你。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6f8f94c3a4f1e87c58fa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0395c22574c9e55e8399","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f8f94c3a4f1e87c58fa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q3ecbcf04b517e7ef2e09","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":200,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-10T06:16:56.919Z","text":"你不是为2万投资人喊冤吗？这下又看人家的笑话了？我看你本身就是一个笑话、神经病。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q42e6a9baae3b0941e328","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ecbcf04b517e7ef2e09","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42e6a9baae3b0941e328","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000099","next_batch_id":"batch-000101"}