{"id":"batch-000100","number":100,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-04-09T11:09:55.912Z","date_end":"2026-04-13T05:09:26.629Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 100 (Apr 9, 2026 – Apr 13, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Participants focus on a single case and dispute three connected tracks: victim designation, loss and ownership proof, and viable appellate/asset recovery paths. The thread argues that 822/833 sentencing work may be vulnerable, that 853(n) and remand outcomes differ by who asserts rights, and that links among Guo, Qing, and Yu remain contested; procedural debate increasingly merged with trust and identity disputes. Community statements, not court findings.","guide_en":[{"title":"Victim definition and whether post-loss status can be overturned: new victim concept, victim lists, and identity boundaries became central","description":"Participants dispute who is recognized as a victim, including whether Ava should be included, and contend that a claim that everyone is treated as a victim is disputed by others in the thread. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q650085a4c4fb83f12828","q1bd438f9479f18bd81e5"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q650085a4c4fb83f12828","summary_en":"One participant asks whether Ava counts as a victim, challenging the broader classification of affected parties. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q1bd438f9479f18bd81e5","summary_en":"Another participant disputes the assertion that prosecutors treated all people as victims, arguing that it is wrong. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Loss baseline and recoverable scope conflict: 5.5亿 versus 350万, individualized accounting, and the actual invested amount","description":"Participants argue over the base loss figure itself, contesting whether a 3.5 million or 5.5亿 framework applies and whether prosecutorial aggregation can substitute for individualized proof. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q0bf3682fa54c78631f2b","q6abd148d6c3c11b8376f","q01531a63bdefd19f92e8"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q0bf3682fa54c78631f2b","summary_en":"A member asks why the case would carry a top-level severity rating if the loss were only 3.5 million, arguing the amount framing is contested. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q6abd148d6c3c11b8376f","summary_en":"Another participant suggests the 3.5 million figure may have come from the defense side’s calculation. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q01531a63bdefd19f92e8","summary_en":"A long legal breakdown claims the 833 sentencing argument may have inferred $550 million from funding flows and generic victim framing without complete per-person proof of identity, victim status, and quantifiable loss. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Farm and related-party funds: loan records, diversion inferences, and alleged benefit pathways","description":"Participants dispute whether farm-linked loan flows are actually present in the cited materials and who ultimately controlled or captured those assets. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qab7923420093e82baaa2","qf4133934587d2bb914d1","q48f67aeb760333b918eb"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qab7923420093e82baaa2","summary_en":"A participant says documents 716 and 720 show no farm loan funds, concluding the money appears to have been drained elsewhere. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf4133934587d2bb914d1","summary_en":"Another member queries whether a “Farm loan” element exists at all. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q48f67aeb760333b918eb","summary_en":"A participant frames the flow as a setup in which scammers became expendable and investor capital was used as bait in a judicial process. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Whether Guo, Qing, and Yu formed a conspiracy chain: “coordination” versus “single-point action” interpretations","description":"Participants contest whether Guo, Qing, and Yu were linked in a coordinated chain or whether actions were more isolated, with competing inferences about protection behavior and intent. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q0667463a4a085a95e306","q87e4798dc4e2205350c7","q5e830259e0a12410a9a8"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q0667463a4a085a95e306","summary_en":"One participant suggests Qing was helping draft materials for others while in decline, implying supportive coordination rather than disassociation. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q87e4798dc4e2205350c7","summary_en":"Another participant alleges dual-track behavior, claiming insiders were both criminal-case victims and bankruptcy creditors simultaneously. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q5e830259e0a12410a9a8","summary_en":"A separate message states Guo did not plead guilty and is not portrayed as naive, arguing against an easy innocence narrative. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Whether Wang and core testimony amount to cooperation: plea and statements were not universally treated as conclusive","description":"Participants argue about whether Wang’s role is equivalent to cooperation, contesting if his plea and cited labels should be treated as fixed proof versus contested testimony context. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q7428338a627aaeac5b33","q537d581197983c715f41","q4aa7169f9c3eb04046f1"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q7428338a627aaeac5b33","summary_en":"A participant says Wang was not directly identifying anyone. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q537d581197983c715f41","summary_en":"Another argues that Wang’s plea made the case trajectory appear clear to many observers. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q4aa7169f9c3eb04046f1","summary_en":"A poster cites an early trial statement that Wang was presented as Guo’s deputy and Yu as a family-finance adviser, treating it as support for a linked structure. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Whether defense strategy failed: alleged missed procedural issues, unpreserved appeal points, and weak sentencing argument","description":"Participants contend the defense was ineffective, arguing counsel did not preserve appeal issues or deliver the evidence needed for a stronger sentencing challenge. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q957c23859ad5e3bdec83","qf0a7eb64bdca3689c38b","q50d37328b2329c7a8b2d"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q957c23859ad5e3bdec83","summary_en":"One participant directly argues the defense was invalid. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf0a7eb64bdca3689c38b","summary_en":"Another says defense counsel did not prepare for appeal. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q50d37328b2329c7a8b2d","summary_en":"A further message claims a prepared defense should have presented all evidence for appellate use, implying that omission weakened later arguments. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Sentencing and appeal-path disagreement: 822/833, second review, and whether facts can be reopened","description":"Participants dispute sentencing quality and appeal mechanics, with repeated claims of remand risk in resentencing and uncertainty over whether the second review materially changes outcomes versus current procedural posture. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q0148c305e46c9b29a6e4","q61701d91a605898a92d4","qdf9c653b7ce5d5e4275b"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q0148c305e46c9b29a6e4","summary_en":"One participant says resentencing in the second review should be remanded and brands the 822/833 sentencing filings as very poor. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q61701d91a605898a92d4","summary_en":"Another argues the outcome looks the same whether triggered by a “Ryan” motion or Guo’s second-appeal route. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qdf9c653b7ce5d5e4275b","summary_en":"A post lists likely appeal points, including no criminal offense finding, judicial abuse of discretion, prosecutorial error, and ineffective assistance. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"853(n) and discretion boundary as a key divider: whether a win reaches all related persons","description":"Participants argue that 853(n) provides recovery only to those who timely and specifically establish superior interest, disputing claims that one victory automatically protects every related investor. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q6f8f94c3a4f1e87c58fa","q0395c22574c9e55e8399","q3ecbcf04b517e7ef2e09"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q6f8f94c3a4f1e87c58fa","summary_en":"A long post explains that under 853(n), only claimants with timely, sworn, asset-specific proof can reclaim particular property, while non-claimants may default to unsecured creditor status. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q0395c22574c9e55e8399","summary_en":"Another warns of prior-case dynamics: even winners can still be vulnerable if they do not assert rights and remain tied to asset diversion patterns. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q3ecbcf04b517e7ef2e09","summary_en":"A participant rebuts broad claims on behalf of all investors and uses ridicule, arguing that a small winning group does not automatically convert into universal benefit. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Allegations of prosecution-defense alignment: alliance, protection narrative, and staged-orchestrated storytelling","description":"Participants contend that prosecution and defense are aligned or protected by a shared narrative, while simultaneously rejecting or amplifying moralized claims about hidden intent and institutional choreography. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q4e9b726621830641124b","q3a1b7ee5bb6a8ac4db14","q2682466abe7b697f8ec8"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q4e9b726621830641124b","summary_en":"One participant says if defense counsel entered the case, the alliance narrative would collapse. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q3a1b7ee5bb6a8ac4db14","summary_en":"Another asserts that prosecution and defense are colluding and labels them mutually protected. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q2682466abe7b697f8ec8","summary_en":"A third message states the setup has already been exposed by the community. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Group governance and opinion control: spam claims, informant targeting, external posts, and scripted messaging","description":"Participants argue about information control inside the community, claiming that discussion dominance, narrative scripting, and selective forum amplification shaped what could be debated. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q11ae1ec3e0db00437708","q4c1e9a63d94ea7addf64","q9f0f2dea6cae08137574"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q11ae1ec3e0db00437708","summary_en":"A participant says talking about certain members more than briefly is counted as spam. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q4c1e9a63d94ea7addf64","summary_en":"Another references external analysis, arguing that most prosecution motions were denied while defense motions were not similarly accepted. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q9f0f2dea6cae08137574","summary_en":"A participant says key procedural arguments were muted in trial discussion and likens the community’s intake behavior to passive feeding, implying centralized speech control. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Split over next steps: private prosecution, filings, further mobilization, or waiting for judicial triggers","description":"Participants contest next-phase strategy, weighing renewed reporting and external complaints against pausing for second-review or sentencing triggers before further mobilization. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q1aad9299549f3e7f1b5b","qb20caf090e0ef5e7ba57","qe95f1457df2f4ac0e685"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q1aad9299549f3e7f1b5b","summary_en":"A participant claims the prosecution sentencing filing has effectively collapsed. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qb20caf090e0ef5e7ba57","summary_en":"Another expects resentencing in the second review to be remanded. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qe95f1457df2f4ac0e685","summary_en":"A member says multiple complaint channels, including FBI New York, were used and argues that suppression of all channels is unlikely. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Judicial neutrality and institutional trust: judge independence, regulatory role, CVRA references, and procedural balance","description":"Participants dispute institutional neutrality, arguing distrust in political neutrality and pleading quality while also describing higher court hierarchy shifts and third-party judicial roles as evolving. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q71f3bf79cb6e3770c96c","qc6343d24b2ac7bbe1ca4","qf7d1e4beb7b65b094d5b"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q71f3bf79cb6e3770c96c","summary_en":"One participant claims Trump-appointed judges do not respond favorably to a named side. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qc6343d24b2ac7bbe1ca4","summary_en":"Another asserts that third-party court status has risen significantly in this phase. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf7d1e4beb7b65b094d5b","summary_en":"A participant criticizes prosecution drafting as low quality in the context of perceived judicial misconduct. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Mobilization narratives and identity speculation escalation: spy, betrayal, and political conspiracy framing","description":"Participants claim intelligence-style and betrayal narratives, with some advancing mole hypotheses and broader conspiracy speculation that intensify factional splits beyond evidence-specific argument. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q6395ab572044e55f4899","qac6b2c38bf10f6c26f9d"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q6395ab572044e55f4899","summary_en":"A participant points to international events and suggests hidden actors were attentive everywhere, extending the dispute into intelligence-themed identity inference. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qac6b2c38bf10f6c26f9d","summary_en":"Another participant states a leaning that Wang is an operative, illustrating the identity-based theory-building in the thread. Community statements, not court 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郭文贵给美国做的贡献和欺诈案有[屏蔽词]的关系","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q584c9d7f174dd551a693","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q650085a4c4fb83f12828","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":403,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-11T00:27:09.743Z","text":"Ava不是受害人吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q650085a4c4fb83f12828","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q1bd438f9479f18bd81e5","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":404,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-11T00:27:25.075Z","text":"她怎么还说检方把所有人都当受害人看，是错的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1bd438f9479f18bd81e5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qca235f368a8e2bf720d0","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":405,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-11T00:28:30.196Z","text":"他一直都是这个论调","edited":false,"reply_to":"q584c9d7f174dd551a693","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca235f368a8e2bf720d0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q584c9d7f174dd551a693","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qa65212e77ceb6e0ba0fb","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":406,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-11T00:28:32.894Z","text":"青藤自己不还说所有买gclub的，都是受害人吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa65212e77ceb6e0ba0fb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q01d95ddc0729af42414a","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":407,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-11T00:30:56.935Z","text":"罗伊好像很紧张","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01d95ddc0729af42414a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q3fc00a8be4d7a1263d71","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":408,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-11T00:31:41.073Z","text":"https://x.com/ruienxiaoge777/status/2042509110349041735?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3fc00a8be4d7a1263d71","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qef8a4f2cf2c52f3ef033","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":409,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-11T00:31:45.956Z","text":"因为这个？？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef8a4f2cf2c52f3ef033","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q029b108c885cb07bd821","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":410,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-11T00:32:08.140Z","text":"TMD，自从被删号之后，我就看不到盖特了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q029b108c885cb07bd821","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qdb94140680d0d9a59ade","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":411,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-11T00:34:10.305Z","text":"我觉得这次他们学聪明了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb94140680d0d9a59ade","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qc081e61eaf569c0a2c3f","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":412,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-11T00:34:15.421Z","text":"司法的都不讲","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc081e61eaf569c0a2c3f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q9b3e907edfffbe3c8576","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":413,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-11T00:34:18.458Z","text":"讲了就会被写","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b3e907edfffbe3c8576","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q72a27c3d96d3becc339f","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":414,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-11T00:34:21.927Z","text":"一直讲中共","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions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必须走螺丝哥 瑞恩的路线","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8d9099b04535ee43d042","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe46d6a58180fb6c0e389","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d9099b04535ee43d042","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q68d446a790e26cffd826","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":493,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-11T01:37:08.659Z","text":"tony的路线","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68d446a790e26cffd826","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q56024ec27314eaed43fa","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":494,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-11T01:37:10.572Z","text":"否则不可能","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56024ec27314eaed43fa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qe0dd1d265823d2aef01a","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":495,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-11T01:38:44.430Z","text":"至于敲诈勒索，那些灭共演员到底受谁控制对投资者敲诈勒索，被告完全有证据证明它们受谁控制，但你不让证明。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0dd1d265823d2aef01a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q984381c228c73159367a","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":496,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-11T02:13:35.129Z","text":"辩方这是和检方打配合\n承认没收14亿 合情合理","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbfc0a32aa425b0c6a06e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q984381c228c73159367a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbfc0a32aa425b0c6a06e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qd3a17ad8e7c87958deaa","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":497,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-11T02:18:31.340Z","text":"罗伊/郭海 之前认为自己既不是TD卡的法人 又不是债权人 最后追责 扯不到他头上\n但盖特的后台篡改数据 如果被调查 他跑不了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q01d95ddc0729af42414a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3a17ad8e7c87958deaa","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01d95ddc0729af42414a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q038d0848c33d616c9a86","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":498,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-11T02:21:01.365Z","text":"这就是他们的目的啊\n外围还有羊帮 屁酱 拿受害人说事儿","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdf240ad0d22b901597e9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q038d0848c33d616c9a86","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf240ad0d22b901597e9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qefb6909953c47403238a","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":499,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-11T02:22:55.639Z","text":"安小东 盖尔永远是它爹\n一直带偏混淆概念 给盖尔洗地\n830 受害者出来了 它装瞎看不到","edited":false,"reply_to":"qeda8d1b7188da00906d4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qefb6909953c47403238a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeda8d1b7188da00906d4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q8f07bafbc811e6e21af5","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":500,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-11T02:23:20.926Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ 罗伊/郭海是念稿子 扯政治斗争 老一套","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f07bafbc811e6e21af5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q834aa756fa9385bc4897","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":501,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-11T02:25:06.204Z","text":"揣着明白装糊涂\n这几个草台班子 语气里听得出来 心里非常虚 特别是火来","edited":false,"reply_to":"q00c9adffb49abefe47c8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q834aa756fa9385bc4897","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00c9adffb49abefe47c8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qa907f1ab89a3e47cff09","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":502,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-11T02:26:03.143Z","text":"挑战了 但是没提交证据😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q834aa756fa9385bc4897","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa907f1ab89a3e47cff09","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q834aa756fa9385bc4897","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q80c574bdd44f635cab7b","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":503,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-11T02:27:53.693Z","text":"输出全靠吼","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa907f1ab89a3e47cff09","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80c574bdd44f635cab7b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa907f1ab89a3e47cff09","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q0ba81eba23525832ca9f","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":504,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-11T02:29:17.402Z","text":"他们是这样 表面上骂检方 私下给检方递刀子","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ba81eba23525832ca9f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q85be39ebdac4fc188ae4","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":505,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-11T02:30:43.316Z","text":"所以这帮人 就是要按住第三方 不让冒头破坏他们的局\n这些被告共谋 庭外表现的依然是很嚣张 继续骗 那么检方当然有理由重判","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcf4165691a0c6fd8a72f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85be39ebdac4fc188ae4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf4165691a0c6fd8a72f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q2e6cd9a6466d39818457","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":506,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-11T02:34:46.180Z","text":"这个我同意 刑事案是直接引用破产案的alter ego来给郭定罪","edited":false,"reply_to":"q50354bdbdeff0230e08e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e6cd9a6466d39818457","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50354bdbdeff0230e08e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q693fb20da2793216ad88","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":507,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-11T02:35:42.756Z","text":"跳过了破产案举证的阶段\n这是故意利用法律漏洞","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q693fb20da2793216ad88","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qa562fb60addb34306d2c","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":508,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-11T02:37:05.801Z","text":"这么说 感觉确实像邪教啊\n郭不是实际控制 而是精神洗脑🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4c3fd7c198b287e77f59","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa562fb60addb34306d2c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c3fd7c198b287e77f59","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qcbc6250274b549d8389d","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":509,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-11T02:37:19.993Z","text":"赢了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcbc6250274b549d8389d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qa43d215b4d626e69b905","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":510,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-11T02:37:59.631Z","text":"先有鸡后有蛋 检方一直玩儿这个文字游戏 辩方配合的也很好","edited":false,"reply_to":"q30e0d32bfc1b519463b0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa43d215b4d626e69b905","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30e0d32bfc1b519463b0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q4c1e9a63d94ea7addf64","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":511,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-11T02:39:13.254Z","text":"你看推上49号星球的openclaw 分析 检方的motion 托雷斯同意 辩方的 基本都被否","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa5052eb56c8dbe2f30ca","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c1e9a63d94ea7addf64","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5052eb56c8dbe2f30ca","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q7bcbc087456c26c819cb","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":512,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-11T02:40:36.432Z","text":"郭也是个人才","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7bcbc087456c26c819cb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q5f2186392a895f6c4fe4","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":513,"speaker":".an***","date":"2026-04-11T02:40:38.504Z","text":"吴的alter ego是中共，是习死皇","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb1f82f2dc6512f11b8b7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f2186392a895f6c4fe4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1f82f2dc6512f11b8b7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qa5d1cf8bcb69f48d5b02","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":514,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-11T02:40:49.381Z","text":"折腾这么多年 钱都被花完了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5d1cf8bcb69f48d5b02","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q4464c1186a947267a605","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":515,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-11T02:40:55.086Z","text":"出来有什么用","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4464c1186a947267a605","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qe9f3146674e1d7c9ca30","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":516,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-11T02:41:00.567Z","text":"的确如此。打个比方，我在公司一贯表现良好、具有很好的口碑；但是我如果哪天贪了小便宜，拿走了公司的东西被人发现，也有可能会被开除的。罗伊讲这种话，就是在说郭真的犯了罪。郭文贵出来一定会收拾他。现在是灭爆联盟控制了话语权。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q584c9d7f174dd551a693","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9f3146674e1d7c9ca30","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q584c9d7f174dd551a693","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qd35e2a3cf1f46f7e8184","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":517,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-11T02:42:59.171Z","text":"李娅的几句证词 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他跑不了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe9f3146674e1d7c9ca30","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q745f4c0e4412c9cea680","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9f3146674e1d7c9ca30","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qac0c890929a6bc05c447","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":519,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-11T02:46:59.424Z","text":"据说辩方律师给法庭提交了密封文件","edited":false,"reply_to":"q97123ba24bbebece5295","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qac0c890929a6bc05c447","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97123ba24bbebece5295","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qd31f43d3fbf4a4851333","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":520,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-11T02:55:03.219Z","text":"法官签发的没收令720里，盖特公司银行账户都被封了，资金也被没收了，现在的这个盖特，已经是pax吴征它们在控制了，成了一个中共代理人作恶的证据记录平台。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q745f4c0e4412c9cea680","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd31f43d3fbf4a4851333","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q745f4c0e4412c9cea680","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qe27ff2ee488d456bb09c","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":521,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-11T02:56:26.657Z","text":"我以前说过 现在的盖特就像之前的多维\n背后老板 在多维关闭后 把维护费用 用在了盖特\n就是移花接木 用郭的平台 维稳郭的信众 坑死郭 杀人猪心","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd31f43d3fbf4a4851333","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe27ff2ee488d456bb09c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd31f43d3fbf4a4851333","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q62a412316b7db3ac9f98","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":522,"speaker":".an***","date":"2026-04-11T02:58:40.358Z","text":"检方的量刑报告真的坍塌了！检方说根据审前调查部门的调查……，现在还用审前调查部门的调查报告，审前调查是建议判郭先生12项罪，175年，其中包括GTV，但陪审团排除了GTV有罪，所以没收GTV的款是根据来自审前调查部门的报告。检方这得多混蛋才能这样生来硬拽的判决！另外，已经到判刑阶段了却还用缓刑部门调查报告，这个缓行部门应该就是审前调查部门吧？必须起诉检方，检方已经在践踏美国法律了！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0bf3682fa54c78631f2b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62a412316b7db3ac9f98","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0bf3682fa54c78631f2b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q1db5788d53fe4ae7c0f8","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":523,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-11T03:00:18.071Z","text":"https://x.com/wansheng_cheng/status/2042790032885289287?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1db5788d53fe4ae7c0f8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qb9ff8473c406f330ae5c","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":524,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-11T03:00:32.229Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 专家来分析分析😂","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9ff8473c406f330ae5c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q974d4d19a5867d031e29","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":525,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-11T03:07:38.950Z","text":"这是 互咬模式？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7cc3efa392f166d4f532","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q974d4d19a5867d031e29","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q8a615d4871e0525716a2","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":526,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-11T03:08:02.492Z","text":"有一条 讲到了木兰准备自杀","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a615d4871e0525716a2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q003fb9091c5e522a375a","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":527,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-11T03:08:42.410Z","text":"这不就是检方量刑陈述里讲到的 因为诈骗 有受害者试图自杀？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q003fb9091c5e522a375a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qc385ef1d776e0a3e692e","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":528,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-11T03:12:10.166Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] HCHK是郭家族的吧？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc385ef1d776e0a3e692e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q4f8c4df10ba70a2d8978","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":529,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-04-11T03:17:23.244Z","text":"https://x.com/dxbybzb1722/status/2042783489951490164?s=20","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f8c4df10ba70a2d8978","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"qd8ec1cb56c9eff385481","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":530,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-11T03:19:05.001Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ 确实是在撕逼\n张永兵的说法 木兰2023年8月是HCHK的董事\n她的证词 对这个company一无所知","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8ec1cb56c9eff385481","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q26c9c3f8fde2913f6b3a","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":531,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-11T03:25:24.736Z","text":"感觉挺无聊的 一个是检方污点证人 一个是被告共谋 两个以前都是铁血组同事 甩起锅来 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zci***］  你有什么消息吗","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2da4b4557fafc3e0deba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q0e3981d9b410fdaa2b38","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":552,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-11T04:19:08.157Z","text":"估计这也是郭要等的火候","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2c5064d5cf6cedf2dc6e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e3981d9b410fdaa2b38","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c5064d5cf6cedf2dc6e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100"},{"id":"q51482e2aab7b48552706","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":553,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-11T04:19:56.491Z","text":"瑞恩知道郭自己最终能搞定 但是他必须插一脚 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