{"id":"batch-000101","number":101,"revision":2,"date_start":"2026-04-13T05:09:27.029Z","date_end":"2026-04-16T15:33:41.989Z","total_messages":1000,"summary":"讨论显示成员意见高度分化，围绕同一案件的司法性质与程序路径并未形成稳定共识。核心争论在于：检方、法院是否存在偏袒或程序性不公；债权人名单“6000/1800”及删改是否能证明责任转移；“出卖被告”“共谋”是否真实。与此并行的是二巡与上诉实务路线的分歧：最高法退件后能否立案、如何保留上诉权、动议/强制令/CVRA与853n的作用边界与时点。证据层面持续拉扯“举证责任在谁、何种标准可称‘站得住’”，财产没收、律师定位、舆论对关键人物身份与关系的猜测，则进一步放大了讨论冲突，许多成员要求以“有据再判定”为底线。","guide":[{"title":"检方与司法程序是否偏袒","message_ids":["qeb1bcdfd8680d00a3b02","qff1bfccf58d8d063bf74","qfc64ba3d91343dce7eb4"]},{"title":"“6000/1800”债权人名单真假及是否可证明保释因果","message_ids":["q307f7946ffd7cd90cfe5","q16d292c5c018b12bc2c9","q4dc42e7d3a4a038f5ee4"]},{"title":"债权人删减/补录与举证责任争议","message_ids":["q9f632585c2afa47d94f3","q679ebd65c7d8182a4c20","qc8e3c40b94ece9cf97b4"]},{"title":"“出卖被告”“分批转移责任”与共谋链条推断","message_ids":["q6703ceb5ab96144cb748","q12a21c7a53779e364a45","q14d6660662b4f0c02f62"]},{"title":"二巡与最高法退件路径：先立案还是直接拒件","message_ids":["q5f252186c27079f1e371","q06f9a7c3fe06061b19f5","q56ef4c7a7268d70ee2e7"]},{"title":"动议与强制令实践：上传、退件与Clerk沟通壁垒","message_ids":["q75dfe14fa278ea04bc99","q43602e05a57d4bbd54c4","qec8230f35c3f33ee3e08"]},{"title":"量刑后路线分歧：先上诉or先保留权利","message_ids":["qf8eea0a85a6245b89b65","q47bc21b3aabcadde8bc0","q53e4cef529f3585dcfe0"]},{"title":"CVRA、853n、844相关时间窗与成败预期分化","message_ids":["qee2369291115c7ab733d","q3493d1532261843110b8","q50ced478e6e480c33d50"]},{"title":"财产责任边界：alter ego、没收及G系资产归属","message_ids":["q8a4354138797083e1075","qcd9b81e47a8c460eb96a","q30b7c5c6f1a014b6d953"]},{"title":"律师角色与诉求目标：为当事人辩护还是替联盟背书","message_ids":["q9e4c8163adf199ace017","q42d7f53d9ee3be63a613","qf039ef3cffbd1eeabf89"]},{"title":"证据标准争议：有证据才定性还是先保留解释路径","message_ids":["q9653e6d0f2dbb3dd3116","q2ac86b42abfa60425825","q005e6f36f06dff947d73"]},{"title":"舆论与人物关系叙事持续放大争议","message_ids":["q909c0da8d9348b63dace","q6a4d2e67b91c7994d188","q0737ebd0796241967306"]}],"closed":true,"is_finalized":true,"updated_at":"2026-09-06T17:43:50.087Z","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_batch","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101","base_batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000101","page":1,"page_size":200,"total_pages":5,"has_more":true,"next_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000101?page=2","prev_url":null,"messages":[{"id":"qeb1bcdfd8680d00a3b02","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":1,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-13T05:09:27.029Z","text":"有司法欺诈 检方一分钱都没收不到","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb1bcdfd8680d00a3b02","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q360711464e0705357c28","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":2,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-13T05:09:33.278Z","text":"不懂他们在干什么","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5e03f66f5aab84c9d7df","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q360711464e0705357c28","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e03f66f5aab84c9d7df","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q199ede4f3bffda3ceef1","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":3,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-13T05:09:40.937Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q29235ac97a5570af7be3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q199ede4f3bffda3ceef1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29235ac97a5570af7be3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q7eb3762e05143e4bf36a","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":4,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-13T05:09:54.288Z","text":"他们要证明还有这么多真债权人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q360711464e0705357c28","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7eb3762e05143e4bf36a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q360711464e0705357c28","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q307f7946ffd7cd90cfe5","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":5,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T05:10:12.002Z","text":"和盖尔6000人 一个道理","edited":false,"reply_to":"q360711464e0705357c28","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q307f7946ffd7cd90cfe5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q360711464e0705357c28","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q386f3b75c7e21a7ebdba","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":6,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-13T05:10:14.768Z","text":"所以 检方那样司法欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q386f3b75c7e21a7ebdba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qff1bfccf58d8d063bf74","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":7,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-13T05:10:18.089Z","text":"对","edited":false,"reply_to":"q307f7946ffd7cd90cfe5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff1bfccf58d8d063bf74","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q307f7946ffd7cd90cfe5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qf42dc65bf7fdde87b940","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":8,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T05:10:20.992Z","text":"1800人 又成了工具","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf42dc65bf7fdde87b940","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qaa345895b185ca5cc983","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":9,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-13T05:10:26.591Z","text":"但是luc已经各种删除债权人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa345895b185ca5cc983","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q60fe039057d6b701a5f8","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":10,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-13T05:10:32.783Z","text":"请问luc有没有删除拱卒","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60fe039057d6b701a5f8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q18ceaa5fc94b1b59ecc0","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":11,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-13T05:10:34.091Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18ceaa5fc94b1b59ecc0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qe50efed4e6925958a97f","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":12,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T05:10:39.188Z","text":"破产案 刑事案 来回折腾","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe50efed4e6925958a97f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q18611461bd0a5545f39a","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":13,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-13T05:10:47.239Z","text":"他们这么做是找死","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18611461bd0a5545f39a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qbd1fcfee405a65ff993f","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":14,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-13T05:11:00.132Z","text":"司法欺诈检方跑不掉了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbd1fcfee405a65ff993f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q4f6415acd8b764199284","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":15,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-13T05:11:17.628Z","text":"他们搞什么主事官  也是应对司法欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f6415acd8b764199284","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qfc64ba3d91343dce7eb4","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":16,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-13T05:12:39.138Z","text":"主事官也改变不了 法官拒绝给第三方入卷、程序不公、文件不完整的问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc64ba3d91343dce7eb4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q7166b291fdd9a511e49a","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":17,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T05:14:42.497Z","text":"所以","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfc64ba3d91343dce7eb4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7166b291fdd9a511e49a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc64ba3d91343dce7eb4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q797cc159d2756c24201e","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":18,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T05:15:04.141Z","text":"要找青们 出来搞事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q797cc159d2756c24201e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q07ab1d35856c92a6547f","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":19,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T05:15:21.968Z","text":"把盖尔6000人的玩法 再演一遍","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07ab1d35856c92a6547f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q6703ceb5ab96144cb748","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":20,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T05:15:58.368Z","text":"不然检方什么都捞不到","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6703ceb5ab96144cb748","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qeadc299036eaba83f515","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":21,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-13T05:16:13.491Z","text":"那也是无米之炊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6703ceb5ab96144cb748","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeadc299036eaba83f515","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6703ceb5ab96144cb748","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qced2138049fb4e17e10c","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":22,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-13T05:16:17.083Z","text":"司法欺诈已经注定了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qced2138049fb4e17e10c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qaa70ebaf97b58277fd2b","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":23,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T05:17:04.000Z","text":"青就是人格分裂 估计现在 连他自己都不清楚 身份是什么了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa70ebaf97b58277fd2b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q6b2ace0c4bb90ab7343b","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":24,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T05:17:42.084Z","text":"AVA不傻 不让检方833放她的照片 怕遗臭万年","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b2ace0c4bb90ab7343b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q4b751b7d7d7abf336dc8","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":25,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T05:18:32.620Z","text":"保释被拒用了债权人的事儿","edited":false,"reply_to":"qced2138049fb4e17e10c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b751b7d7d7abf336dc8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qced2138049fb4e17e10c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qc7255e344104bab9d663","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":26,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T05:19:03.632Z","text":"现在虚假登记做实了\n郭这个罪已经被判 Luc也跑不了\n又想耍赖 还联系青帮忙","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7255e344104bab9d663","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qc39f71480513aa6a9dbd","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":27,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T05:21:16.177Z","text":"后面Luc可能也会被检方卖啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc39f71480513aa6a9dbd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q12a21c7a53779e364a45","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":28,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-13T05:23:51.481Z","text":"检方卖luc 早就有征兆了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12a21c7a53779e364a45","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qd72590d6da113e636729","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":29,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-13T05:23:56.654Z","text":"地区检察官办公室对于跟它分享了数据，实质上参与了办案的其它政府部门的对被告有利的信息,不能说对方没有告知来推责，有义务主动去调查。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd72590d6da113e636729","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qd624cae5be2ea71a5303","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":30,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-13T05:25:22.888Z","text":"本案中，至少Trustee,sec掌握的对被告有利的信息，南区不能说自己不知道。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd624cae5be2ea71a5303","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q499e3eaa8a0d33d83ceb","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":31,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T05:25:42.055Z","text":"那就别迟疑了 卖吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd624cae5be2ea71a5303","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q499e3eaa8a0d33d83ceb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd624cae5be2ea71a5303","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qa3276b427a82eb15fbc0","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":32,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T05:25:52.517Z","text":"青已经833被卖了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa3276b427a82eb15fbc0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q2dcc321fd384552c9158","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":33,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T05:26:07.470Z","text":"再卖一个Luc 顺手的事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2dcc321fd384552c9158","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q446225030eaf85b42716","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":34,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T05:26:43.058Z","text":"两个给检方背锅的 说出去也体面","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q446225030eaf85b42716","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qd7cefa5bedac70740d04","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":35,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-13T05:27:08.727Z","text":"你没发现luc已经被卖了吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd7cefa5bedac70740d04","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q288dfce6b6c43cb428be","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":36,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-13T05:27:11.778Z","text":"卖灭共演员，可以加刑，卖luc，会让被告无罪释放。没法卖，只能共进退。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa3276b427a82eb15fbc0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q288dfce6b6c43cb428be","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa3276b427a82eb15fbc0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q63df16e9919b10d6d157","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":37,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-13T05:27:21.422Z","text":"司法欺诈这个郭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63df16e9919b10d6d157","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q14d6660662b4f0c02f62","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":38,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-13T05:27:26.059Z","text":"检方不可能背","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14d6660662b4f0c02f62","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qa6bf0d9ca2180a52e88a","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":39,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T05:27:40.066Z","text":"卖一半Luc","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6bf0d9ca2180a52e88a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q65d9cb6d7a626ad0021a","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":40,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T05:28:07.345Z","text":"再卖一半拱猪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65d9cb6d7a626ad0021a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qf3ecd3a53371b575c4ef","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":41,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T05:28:17.900Z","text":"也挺好","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3ecd3a53371b575c4ef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q3b213708f1e809c9ba0d","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":42,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-13T05:29:17.137Z","text":"说被luc骗，也减不了多少责任。一样都是故意疏忽。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b213708f1e809c9ba0d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qf1c439a273e20e7ab28a","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":43,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T05:29:27.278Z","text":"［用户 pz0***］ Percy估计不会出面了\n屁酱的瞎解读 应该少不了Percy的助力 每次都是反方向忽悠\nhttps://x.com/robert19882777/status/2043414350031917221?s=46","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1c439a273e20e7ab28a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q909c0da8d9348b63dace","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":44,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T05:31:19.022Z","text":"屁酱显然是心虚了，天天转发天道的X，碰到有关Percy 的，哑巴了。\n就这心理素质，还第三梯队？白日梦\nhttps://x.com/toukuip82522t/status/2043450495843414355?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q909c0da8d9348b63dace","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qb9370bbf7ff800360b2e","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":45,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T05:39:45.614Z","text":"Percy是看的懂，但也是揣着明白装糊涂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9370bbf7ff800360b2e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qd58f35cbd6a53d0365b2","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":46,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T05:40:19.659Z","text":"指不定很早就明白，郭目的是要干嘛的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd58f35cbd6a53d0365b2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q2d9683622b75dcf2cd57","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":47,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-13T10:54:59.925Z","text":"奇了怪了！同一个贴子/搬砖链接，原来点勾/点赞排第一的龙女，现在怎么变成第四呢？\n如果不是我昨天对同一个贴子一开始就作了截图，还真以为龙女是后面跟着点赞的。\n想了一会儿，我明白了！原来龙女也是用心良苦的哈：见到后面有人跟上，它就先关掉自己的点赞，之后马上再加上去，这样就排名落后了，免得显示自己自卖自夸、吃相难看。\n呵呵！难道这吃相不是更难看吗？🤪\n龙女在那个群霸屏，昨天它又发了13个贴，是它自己数出来的；在这个群却一声不吭，这是什么精神？😂\n另外，它的时间是墙内时间或者东南亚时间。\n［用户 lon***］","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d9683622b75dcf2cd57","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q1df047732010d29d4104","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":48,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-13T11:06:22.976Z","text":"Luc追郭强败了跟它们突然提债权人有什么关系？怕债权人造反？为什么要造反？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9b91a19266dd4253f1bd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1df047732010d29d4104","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b91a19266dd4253f1bd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q48bd7fccbf21c65989c6","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":49,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-13T11:08:10.899Z","text":"那是他的命门，哪敢提啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8177729ae17261e0d4d4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q48bd7fccbf21c65989c6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8177729ae17261e0d4d4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qbbbad1c72a9d57d3ca5e","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":50,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-13T11:12:18.147Z","text":"以阻止luc花钱的名义搜集人头去参介入产庭，一场表演下来，做实有数千投资者找被告要钱，从而成为了受害者，它们主张的债权就成为了有效损失。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1df047732010d29d4104","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbbad1c72a9d57d3ca5e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1df047732010d29d4104","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qc1f8506628f9a05a9509","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":51,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T11:12:43.989Z","text":"别忘了 HCHK债权人委员会\n火来那帮人 又可以拿这个说事了\n怕是青要跑 火来上位","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbbbad1c72a9d57d3ca5e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1f8506628f9a05a9509","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbbad1c72a9d57d3ca5e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q8795b23108db12a6f6f5","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":52,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-13T11:15:26.561Z","text":"还在给检方递刀子？检方都把它们卖了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbbbad1c72a9d57d3ca5e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8795b23108db12a6f6f5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbbad1c72a9d57d3ca5e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qd5680441d847be2295fa","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":53,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-13T11:15:46.042Z","text":"这次粪青和假假是不是不露脸了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5680441d847be2295fa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q6620703c25f835d6c8cf","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":54,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T11:16:20.508Z","text":"卖这两个 掩护火来梯队接盘","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd5680441d847be2295fa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6620703c25f835d6c8cf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5680441d847be2295fa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q4b370c4d62d337acd13e","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":55,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T11:16:34.817Z","text":"屁酱是外围打掩护","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b370c4d62d337acd13e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qecdfc51556b9a3b0ea36","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":56,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-13T11:17:20.605Z","text":"这三个文件里提到啥了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qecdfc51556b9a3b0ea36","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qc340f6957dc72d735221","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":57,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-13T11:18:44.799Z","text":"这跟夏其东，张永斌等被说成是共谋犯但不抓它们一个道理，我需要什么妳们就造什么，[删节：违规内容]，对于你们的犯罪行为，我美国政府不会对你们认真。","edited":true,"reply_to":"q8795b23108db12a6f6f5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc340f6957dc72d735221","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8795b23108db12a6f6f5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q22071340c687510492c4","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":58,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-13T11:19:03.737Z","text":"灭爆这么一整，不就做实了联盟给检方制造受害人吗？Luc，检方，联盟共谋陷害被告","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe61700797c0d8c15577f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22071340c687510492c4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe61700797c0d8c15577f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q6a4d2e67b91c7994d188","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":59,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T11:20:01.441Z","text":"盖尔6000人不就是","edited":false,"reply_to":"q22071340c687510492c4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a4d2e67b91c7994d188","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22071340c687510492c4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q171a41f1160e4f7d31da","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":60,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T11:20:24.891Z","text":"鸟 青 两帮人马 其实是一套班子","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q171a41f1160e4f7d31da","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qfe23296d8de145d9bd9e","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":61,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-13T11:21:24.164Z","text":"对还有盖尔，现在这局面，都纷纷曝光自己的阴毛，目的就是搞死被告。谁给他们吃得定心丸？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6a4d2e67b91c7994d188","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe23296d8de145d9bd9e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a4d2e67b91c7994d188","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q1fd05e5f37cabac43f30","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":62,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T11:21:24.385Z","text":"所以 张永兵 很嚣张啊\n居然还敢出来直播","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc340f6957dc72d735221","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1fd05e5f37cabac43f30","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc340f6957dc72d735221","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qaae79bc6ebcd33012a6d","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":63,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-13T11:23:42.651Z","text":"［用户 kir***］  盖尔的最新动议自己承认联盟给他找的几千人是受害者。联盟鼓捣债权人等于默认跟检方luc共谋制造受害人，记得提醒瑞恩都写进去啊","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaae79bc6ebcd33012a6d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qaed5a5eb38be8c28f4a2","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":64,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-13T11:24:17.451Z","text":"联盟妥妥的共谋中间人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaed5a5eb38be8c28f4a2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q3cf9a51dddf7e242597d","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":65,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-13T11:28:30.483Z","text":"如果是这样，那就是在毁尸灭迹，打扫现场。难道债权人这块出什么纰漏了？跟Luc败诉有啥关系？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3cf9a51dddf7e242597d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qa97245fec3a621632ae0","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":66,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-13T11:33:59.748Z","text":"抹掉债权人登记，就当没发生过，这样检方就干净了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5e03f66f5aab84c9d7df","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa97245fec3a621632ae0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e03f66f5aab84c9d7df","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q9f632585c2afa47d94f3","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":67,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-13T11:37:03.659Z","text":"帮忙删除债权人？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc7255e344104bab9d663","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f632585c2afa47d94f3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7255e344104bab9d663","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q16d292c5c018b12bc2c9","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":68,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T11:38:06.694Z","text":"不是删除\n是要做实债权人真实存在","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9f632585c2afa47d94f3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16d292c5c018b12bc2c9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f632585c2afa47d94f3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q8a4354138797083e1075","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":69,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T11:39:45.233Z","text":"这是刑事案检方的立案基础","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a4354138797083e1075","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q897f0ad60cf2b38c7e93","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":70,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T11:41:28.154Z","text":"Luc诉郭强败诉 这个案子可以和郭美的做对比","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3cf9a51dddf7e242597d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q897f0ad60cf2b38c7e93","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3cf9a51dddf7e242597d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q1bdff73f51826cc3a7de","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":71,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-13T11:42:04.232Z","text":"是不是要赢了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1bdff73f51826cc3a7de","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qcd9b81e47a8c460eb96a","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":72,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T11:42:14.064Z","text":"都是诉这些公司，是郭的alter ego，要没收资产","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd9b81e47a8c460eb96a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qcfebe329e178ef058546","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":73,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T11:43:11.285Z","text":"在美立案的郭美 输了\n在英属维京群岛立案的郭强 赢了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfebe329e178ef058546","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qbfd7a5e6b8fce35e46ce","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":74,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T11:43:57.589Z","text":"只要有一个赢，Luc的G enterprises 是郭的alter ego根基就动摇","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbfd7a5e6b8fce35e46ce","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q8680d3c7087124ac4237","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":75,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-13T11:45:03.842Z","text":"嗯，证明存在也是给检方洗白","edited":false,"reply_to":"q16d292c5c018b12bc2c9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8680d3c7087124ac4237","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16d292c5c018b12bc2c9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q93890e02ba0ef72e7d37","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":76,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T11:45:45.564Z","text":"这个破产案alter ego 是刑事案检方直接拿来用的\n王案确定了没收范围 包括整个G enterprises\n刑事案检方 套用破产案的alter ego 把这些都算在郭头上","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93890e02ba0ef72e7d37","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q619b6884e30fda4d137e","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":77,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-13T11:46:15.186Z","text":"所以毛病出在法庭，但县官不如现管","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcfebe329e178ef058546","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q619b6884e30fda4d137e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfebe329e178ef058546","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qe3905c64382f37706b42","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":78,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T11:48:40.955Z","text":"Luc大概率会被检方卖掉\n破产案里贪过头了 会影响到刑事案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3905c64382f37706b42","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q3ee367e4aa2deee58d90","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":79,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T11:52:08.959Z","text":"关于Mahwah的官司 还没结束\n有郭强BVI这个案子 Luc很可能会输","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ee367e4aa2deee58d90","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q22b60f28bfb600668da9","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":80,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T11:53:28.052Z","text":"Luc把保镖名下的公司 说成也是郭的alter ego 确实太扯淡","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22b60f28bfb600668da9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q41cc7ad978d17e1b7af6","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":81,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T11:54:29.009Z","text":"然后又会扯到破产庭法官曼宁 关于Mahwah的强制令和Luc对于Mahwah产权的造假","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41cc7ad978d17e1b7af6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q60974ea25a31658ead2c","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":82,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-13T12:10:50.321Z","text":"南区法官，在陪审团定罪前， 给陪审团的 指导， 有没有被人扒扒，看是否正确、没偏见？ 刚刚看一个案件，上级法院，推翻了下级法院陪审团判决，因为下级法官给了不正确的指导","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60974ea25a31658ead2c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q6da97d2ecc5ce69a0d89","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":83,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-13T12:12:14.693Z","text":"关于1800人，👇这个观点也有意思：\n\n“我的理解不一定对：这1800人是最早签名当了七哥的债权人找七哥要钱，美其名曰怕钱被卢克抢走，我记得是有人在指挥干这事！现在再去找卢克确认支付卢克为这1800人代理的律师费，一旦确认，这些人等于变相支付了律师费找七哥要钱，这1800人就可能被用在南区法院这里作为受害人补充到案件里！这支付律师费这招太狠了，（就像你占有一套房子，房主不是你，但你一直在缴纳物业费水电费就行成了事实占有）”","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6da97d2ecc5ce69a0d89","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q4e0f51cf9a72d919f96c","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":84,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-13T12:14:01.003Z","text":"被告在美国立不起的案子，在快被伊斯兰侵占的英国都立得起案，在美国输的案子，在维尔京就可以赢。美国这个司法，共产党想怎么蹂躏就怎么蹂躏。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e0f51cf9a72d919f96c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qe02c15c15ca11359339c","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":85,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-13T12:30:11.392Z","text":"检方连盖尔和gavenman都没卖，不可能卖luc吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q14d6660662b4f0c02f62","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe02c15c15ca11359339c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14d6660662b4f0c02f62","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qd2ae6ab00cb91b944156","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":86,"speaker":".an***","date":"2026-04-13T12:30:17.051Z","text":"期待检方卖掉luc，但检方应该知道他们是一颗藤拴的蚂蚱。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe3905c64382f37706b42","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd2ae6ab00cb91b944156","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3905c64382f37706b42","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q55343934ea3dff9b52cc","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":87,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-13T12:39:52.022Z","text":"英国法律圈是自我繁殖，法律界人士任命法官，美国的法律圈是总统任命法官","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4e0f51cf9a72d919f96c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55343934ea3dff9b52cc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e0f51cf9a72d919f96c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q34898e857499b0762f75","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":88,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-13T12:42:02.597Z","text":"这个世界大部分国家，好像都是法律界人士掌管司法事物，不是像美国一样，国会和总统有任命权","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q34898e857499b0762f75","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q3cbb1081dbdf5701ea97","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":89,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-13T12:43:50.371Z","text":"怎么做实债权人？这不还是联盟农场共谋犯指挥的行动？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q16d292c5c018b12bc2c9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3cbb1081dbdf5701ea97","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16d292c5c018b12bc2c9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qd907e00e2d91f76c7ebc","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":90,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-13T12:44:00.553Z","text":"同样的妨碍司法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd907e00e2d91f76c7ebc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qe3d33da8acc518e6d02a","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":91,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-13T12:44:32.231Z","text":"现在检方的妨碍司法是双标，只要妨碍司法对他们有利，他们就装瞎。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3d33da8acc518e6d02a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q4dc42e7d3a4a038f5ee4","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":92,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T13:00:32.087Z","text":"之前733提到 郭因为虚假债权人登记 不能保释","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3cbb1081dbdf5701ea97","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4dc42e7d3a4a038f5ee4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3cbb1081dbdf5701ea97","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q4fea0921793ab12c5de4","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":93,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T13:01:47.339Z","text":"这个已经判了 意思就是确实存在虚假登记\nLuc这个时候找1800人 同时一边删除部分债权人\n就是要证明 他在核实虚假登记","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4fea0921793ab12c5de4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qbcf098d5d5d8417198ea","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":94,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-13T13:02:48.617Z","text":"债权人删除之后还有1800个人？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbcf098d5d5d8417198ea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q679ebd65c7d8182a4c20","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":95,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T13:03:06.082Z","text":"对啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q679ebd65c7d8182a4c20","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q7e66b718563c39efd67b","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":96,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-13T13:03:21.169Z","text":"那之前有两千多人？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e66b718563c39efd67b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q9fa617ccd77293b54f8b","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":97,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-13T13:03:38.245Z","text":"Luc删除的标准是什么？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9fa617ccd77293b54f8b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qddc08d96033e91fe9d86","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":98,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-13T13:04:07.570Z","text":"为什么他删除的就是虚假的，他怎么证明他删除的是郭鼓动的？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qddc08d96033e91fe9d86","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qc8e3c40b94ece9cf97b4","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":99,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-13T13:04:19.051Z","text":"他没删除的不是郭鼓动的？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8e3c40b94ece9cf97b4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qb5e27a1e5853aeca6c32","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":100,"speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-13T13:05:17.764Z","text":"我把检方833和联盟串在一起了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5e27a1e5853aeca6c32","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qcc63ec94715268cc0f8e","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":101,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T13:05:55.450Z","text":"没法证明 除非辩方不装瞎\n他可以选择性留那些“自己人”\n把郭鼓动的 不是潜伏的 删掉\n因为涉及到后面分钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc8e3c40b94ece9cf97b4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc63ec94715268cc0f8e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8e3c40b94ece9cf97b4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qab1862018af7603643e7","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":102,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-13T13:07:45.072Z","text":"luc再怎么挣扎，最重要的是最开始接受的g系列投资者登记的债权是否为真，只要拱卒和朱莉娅的债权是假的，那么后面就算如实登记投资金额，也不具备法律效力，也不影响可以把它撤掉。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab1862018af7603643e7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q905c67bd2f7304401da1","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":103,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T13:08:19.749Z","text":"对的 而且根据郭的直播 拱猪的投资 已经退回去了 她肯定是假","edited":false,"reply_to":"qab1862018af7603643e7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q905c67bd2f7304401da1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab1862018af7603643e7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qbf1226ef9f864f4cb0d9","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":104,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-13T13:08:35.112Z","text":"最重要的是，它要先独立证明g系列实体属于债务人后，才能接受g系列投资者登记债权。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf1226ef9f864f4cb0d9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q54af169cd29a35fcf1b9","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":105,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-13T13:08:38.658Z","text":"所以，郭说luc会帮他把每一分钱查清楚😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcc63ec94715268cc0f8e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54af169cd29a35fcf1b9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc63ec94715268cc0f8e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qdc98ee527427f184bd42","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":106,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T13:09:00.944Z","text":"Luc其实就和砸锅的 没什么区别","edited":false,"reply_to":"q54af169cd29a35fcf1b9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc98ee527427f184bd42","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54af169cd29a35fcf1b9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qa7d280b56ed0130a781d","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":107,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T13:09:14.700Z","text":"弄着弄着 发现自己其实也被耍了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7d280b56ed0130a781d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q8a7e6b30bf28be20c23e","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":108,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T13:10:02.811Z","text":"举个例子 火来 [删节：隐私信息]\n既是破产案HCHK债权人委员会的\n又被Luc 查到收了法治基金几十万\n讨债的 成了被追债的 很魔幻","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a7e6b30bf28be20c23e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q41a20aeb75ba7b3859be","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":109,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T13:11:43.935Z","text":"属于债务人 那就没法alter ego给郭","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbf1226ef9f864f4cb0d9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41a20aeb75ba7b3859be","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf1226ef9f864f4cb0d9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q5bea2dab41e74ed857b0","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":110,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T13:12:31.720Z","text":"然后刑事案 就不能引用破产案的“替代自我”\n王案的没收14亿 就扯不到郭头上 要扯 就去找Luc 查到的300洗钱骨干","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5bea2dab41e74ed857b0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qba1a339c96c479ad3a29","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":111,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-13T14:29:13.886Z","text":"看今天的战斗室： grand conspiracy 深层政府的人即将被收网， Tod Blanche 即将被任命为司法部部长","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba1a339c96c479ad3a29","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qaabf6594ab057caca6ae","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":112,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-13T14:29:56.427Z","text":"有1千人被深层政府迫害 ； 郭先生是不是其中一个？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaabf6594ab057caca6ae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qb24c0b2df2df44510847","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":113,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-13T14:30:27.728Z","text":"深层政府过去10年的犯罪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb24c0b2df2df44510847","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q1ffb7ec27585ecafcd06","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":114,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-13T14:51:18.952Z","text":"DS是永恒的话题 才不止10年\n收网也只是收些小鱼小虾 意思一下\n大佬们只会坐下来 重新谈一下利益分配 仅此而已 郭也是夹缝中玩儿平衡 用他自己的话就是 走钢丝","edited":false,"reply_to":"qba1a339c96c479ad3a29","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ffb7ec27585ecafcd06","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba1a339c96c479ad3a29","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q6a617602230755ba371d","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":115,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-13T15:11:07.138Z","text":"这个案子是在bvi审理的吧不是纽约？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q897f0ad60cf2b38c7e93","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a617602230755ba371d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q897f0ad60cf2b38c7e93","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q2a8b8103f4134cc6bb24","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":116,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-13T17:07:46.305Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]是不是[删节：成员身份]呀？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a8b8103f4134cc6bb24","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q186b0107c87062e723bd","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":117,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-13T17:52:46.254Z","text":"Luc伦敦不是已经败诉了吗？ ［用户 joh***］ \nhttps://x.com/percy43508644/status/2043689708526408071?s=46","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q186b0107c87062e723bd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q8c7611bca4beaaee6997","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":118,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-13T17:58:49.662Z","text":"债权人要被当韭菜割了，本来想拿回钱，这下成了埋单的了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5c2ce9540ab5588f890b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c7611bca4beaaee6997","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c2ce9540ab5588f890b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qebd65ebb08ec8311f013","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":119,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-13T18:22:44.851Z","text":"https://x.com/believer202064/status/2043678684024881327?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qebd65ebb08ec8311f013","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q76de197ff0d363cfa777","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":120,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-13T20:36:55.008Z","text":"瑞恩重磅文件出炉！检方犯下了致死性错误！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76de197ff0d363cfa777","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q264d39e1af8c4bd94734","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":121,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-13T21:17:26.313Z","text":"https://x.com/sarahzh67248600/status/2043800548428620279?s=12&t=eXMPp66CZUFD_7vvMedcSA","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q264d39e1af8c4bd94734","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q2034687ee322a547530d","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":122,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-13T22:03:43.275Z","text":"联盟从来只说luc花钱，luc花钱是合法的，只要他做的是合法的就行","edited":false,"reply_to":"qebd65ebb08ec8311f013","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2034687ee322a547530d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qebd65ebb08ec8311f013","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qbca2f1f88072e492ce39","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":123,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-13T22:04:28.056Z","text":"Luc的问题不是花钱，而是接受了g系列的虚假债权人，把郭和g系列非法的联系起来，联盟从来不说这个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbca2f1f88072e492ce39","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qe1098b48827952b9524f","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":124,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-13T22:12:57.717Z","text":"司法欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbca2f1f88072e492ce39","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1098b48827952b9524f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbca2f1f88072e492ce39","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qd695614a24cacee0350c","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":125,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-13T22:13:01.581Z","text":"就是这个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd695614a24cacee0350c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q4bf2d8c27d4d1c797bfd","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":126,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-13T22:14:53.961Z","text":"那么他们现在到底要干啥","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbca2f1f88072e492ce39","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4bf2d8c27d4d1c797bfd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbca2f1f88072e492ce39","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q3ef31237773c94578dbc","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":127,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-13T22:16:49.676Z","text":"他们现在就是准备拿着luc浪费钱的问题，引诱韭菜们去反对luc，估计是想作实这些G系列债权人是真的债权人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4bf2d8c27d4d1c797bfd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ef31237773c94578dbc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4bf2d8c27d4d1c797bfd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q60ec14e087a9b74baa57","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":128,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-13T22:17:25.188Z","text":"因为如果他们去反对luc，法庭认定了他们反对的standing，他们就是真的债权人了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60ec14e087a9b74baa57","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q74a1927457152ebf334d","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":129,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-13T22:18:18.786Z","text":"那也抹不掉虚假索赔","edited":false,"reply_to":"q60ec14e087a9b74baa57","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74a1927457152ebf334d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60ec14e087a9b74baa57","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q782f7b042914f349c9f7","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":130,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-13T22:19:04.641Z","text":"他们可以解释说，这些债权人是真的债权人，虽然是郭鼓动的，有些是虚假索赔","edited":false,"reply_to":"q74a1927457152ebf334d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q782f7b042914f349c9f7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74a1927457152ebf334d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q81e121951b96124fd899","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":131,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-13T22:19:48.937Z","text":"他们可能想拿着刑事庭的Rico判决，作实这些债权人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81e121951b96124fd899","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q93545475899c53215a11","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":132,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-13T22:20:21.824Z","text":"不知道他们想怎么操作，反正不会是好事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93545475899c53215a11","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qb4cf3cab1600be3cc577","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":133,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-13T22:20:39.768Z","text":"那是肯定的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4cf3cab1600be3cc577","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q0b92822669aa0f3e8f3e","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":134,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-13T22:21:22.209Z","text":"估计是检方和Luc给他们下任务了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b92822669aa0f3e8f3e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qcc6f95d2a0559c8e9661","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":135,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-13T22:21:33.716Z","text":"现在就是圆圈逻辑，鸡生蛋，蛋生鸡","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc6f95d2a0559c8e9661","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q2fb359dd815967532319","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":136,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-13T22:22:50.114Z","text":"刑事庭刚开始用假债权登记把郭抓起来，Rico，不得保释，然后通过证人证词，庭审一系列骚操作，让陪审团把郭判了，然后破产庭再拿着刑事庭的判决，说这些债权人是真的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2fb359dd815967532319","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qdff085c658801420bdb8","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":137,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-13T22:24:23.244Z","text":"说成真的干吗用","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdff085c658801420bdb8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qfb90e21caf979313b3a2","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":138,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-13T22:24:34.119Z","text":"拿钱啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdff085c658801420bdb8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb90e21caf979313b3a2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdff085c658801420bdb8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q40ce363cdaa64a9ffded","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":139,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-13T22:24:49.541Z","text":"破产庭说成真的之后，就没有司法欺诈了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40ce363cdaa64a9ffded","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qf61c8438c9ce6af391dc","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":140,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-13T22:25:00.817Z","text":"公族他们也是真的了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf61c8438c9ce6af391dc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qa3a89860d79fa620b591","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":141,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-13T22:28:21.247Z","text":"这个逃不掉了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q40ce363cdaa64a9ffded","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa3a89860d79fa620b591","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40ce363cdaa64a9ffded","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q1169f77f4c4e47259a82","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":142,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-13T22:28:29.419Z","text":"司法欺诈他们跑不了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1169f77f4c4e47259a82","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qbebdc367c78b14cd7069","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":143,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-13T22:29:07.786Z","text":"现在有第三方盯着他们","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1169f77f4c4e47259a82","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbebdc367c78b14cd7069","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1169f77f4c4e47259a82","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q198354b02482348aaeeb","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":144,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-13T22:29:18.634Z","text":"如果没有人盯着，他们估计就能做成","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q198354b02482348aaeeb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qa7dcd96a1304ea018019","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":145,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-13T22:29:27.930Z","text":"record已经锁死","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbebdc367c78b14cd7069","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7dcd96a1304ea018019","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbebdc367c78b14cd7069","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q35aa484f1fd51cd5945b","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":146,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-13T22:29:31.130Z","text":"他们现在fix欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35aa484f1fd51cd5945b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q5f320d3a580ad5abb85d","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":147,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-13T22:29:38.400Z","text":"也改变不了当时也是欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f320d3a580ad5abb85d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qb335e603b93afcf4dc0b","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":148,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-13T22:29:50.220Z","text":"没用了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb335e603b93afcf4dc0b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q54e6747895363ba3a825","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":149,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-13T22:34:57.822Z","text":"我觉得，他们现在也知道郭翻案的几率越来越大了，他们现在想的是以后如何脱责，以及郭出来以后谁上位的问题","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa7dcd96a1304ea018019","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54e6747895363ba3a825","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7dcd96a1304ea018019","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qe5ee4e5938fed741133d","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":150,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-13T22:36:14.951Z","text":"对的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q54e6747895363ba3a825","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5ee4e5938fed741133d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54e6747895363ba3a825","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q9b5325e92966a61754b1","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":151,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-13T22:36:26.933Z","text":"检方和luc已经闹翻了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b5325e92966a61754b1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q4299ca3b6a7edf113824","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":152,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-13T22:59:48.354Z","text":"luc是祸根，也就是普衡","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4299ca3b6a7edf113824","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qfde32fa7ba2ba424f388","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":153,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-13T23:03:34.821Z","text":"郭破产是因为pax吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4299ca3b6a7edf113824","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfde32fa7ba2ba424f388","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4299ca3b6a7edf113824","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q069f3edd4d3ecc707b4d","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":154,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-13T23:10:37.809Z","text":"pax和普衡是一伙吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q069f3edd4d3ecc707b4d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q57921fea8433ba22a180","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":155,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-14T00:36:29.331Z","text":"英国的案子 我不太清楚\nLuc在维京群岛这个又败了 那么就有意思了\n如果按法庭说的，争议的焦点是房子产权，而不是房子是否涉及郭的欺诈和alter ego，那么类比Mahwah庄园，是一样的道理，Luc也赢不了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q186b0107c87062e723bd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q57921fea8433ba22a180","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q186b0107c87062e723bd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qb2a9e49454f5682ee9c1","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":156,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-14T00:44:20.911Z","text":"Luc在破产案里面胡闹，出问题了\n关于游艇，Mahwah产权，BVI，追出事，玩大了\n刑事案基本盘债权人的事儿，被733给爆，检方也很恼火","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9b5325e92966a61754b1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2a9e49454f5682ee9c1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b5325e92966a61754b1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q7449967bf0bea71d2b6f","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":157,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2026-04-14T00:45:10.589Z","text":"这货什么时候出庭什么时候才算转折","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7449967bf0bea71d2b6f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qf7e85545c26f6fb6f86e","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":158,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-14T00:46:22.557Z","text":"这案子其实根本不是luc一个人的问题","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb2a9e49454f5682ee9c1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf7e85545c26f6fb6f86e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2a9e49454f5682ee9c1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q2b909afdcb6409af9899","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":159,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-14T00:46:30.209Z","text":"托雷斯检方 很多问题集合","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b909afdcb6409af9899","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q6f3f47a8070cc448122c","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":160,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-14T00:46:39.984Z","text":"但luc是一个起点","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f3f47a8070cc448122c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q94fc5031dc650f440541","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":161,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-14T00:46:43.387Z","text":"把它们都拖下水了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94fc5031dc650f440541","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q2fa6f93d6d19b91f8796","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":162,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-14T00:47:17.958Z","text":"灭爆联盟霸占了话语权，任凭他们花言巧语、胡说八道。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbca2f1f88072e492ce39","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2fa6f93d6d19b91f8796","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbca2f1f88072e492ce39","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q7868bc65329a803879d6","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":163,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2026-04-14T00:47:40.761Z","text":"赵长鹏高度危害美国国家战略安全， 43億罰款，關四個月，孫晨宇案在普衡邦迪的斡旋下，輕鬆和解。老郭卻深陷泥潭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7868bc65329a803879d6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qebcd12d1569db877f5f8","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":164,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-14T00:58:13.504Z","text":"曼宁 感觉是被Luc坑了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf7e85545c26f6fb6f86e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qebcd12d1569db877f5f8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf7e85545c26f6fb6f86e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q561e856b479ce3e3fa18","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":165,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-14T00:58:42.088Z","text":"那个强制令 她不敢判 说明发现了问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q561e856b479ce3e3fa18","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q6be00a18a21ffe565a80","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":166,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-14T01:00:01.270Z","text":"孙割越玩儿越大，感觉总有一天会出事","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7868bc65329a803879d6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6be00a18a21ffe565a80","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7868bc65329a803879d6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q6b5040baed746acf5580","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":167,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-14T01:11:53.345Z","text":"曼宁一直防着luc","edited":false,"reply_to":"qebcd12d1569db877f5f8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b5040baed746acf5580","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qebcd12d1569db877f5f8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q6819c7d017e7fb88834d","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":168,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-14T01:23:27.526Z","text":"这次感觉 像是检方和青在合作","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6819c7d017e7fb88834d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qe5ca3492210323f27688","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":169,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-14T01:23:37.386Z","text":"似乎绕过了Luc","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5ca3492210323f27688","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qe89428cb97b0fe75aeb4","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":170,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-14T01:24:46.260Z","text":"就1800债权人 Luc 群发邮件 没那么难\n盖尔6000人不就是群发邮件授权的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe89428cb97b0fe75aeb4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qde848e407b9ff1b6bc02","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":171,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-14T01:26:34.121Z","text":"观察到位","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6819c7d017e7fb88834d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde848e407b9ff1b6bc02","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6819c7d017e7fb88834d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q2b81203516808c5fff70","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":172,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-14T01:28:24.555Z","text":"那就是要互相卖了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b81203516808c5fff70","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q98e4077584795258de6f","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":173,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-14T01:28:49.575Z","text":"检方 卖青 卖盖尔","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q98e4077584795258de6f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qf578b778f1e77d9580b3","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":174,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-14T01:29:54.913Z","text":"青应该会被踢 检方在联盟找新代理人合作","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf578b778f1e77d9580b3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q62f89a4e9332342eab60","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":175,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-14T01:30:45.840Z","text":"盖尔 可能不会和联盟合作 而且可以拿虚假债权人 随时卖火来 美国小李等人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62f89a4e9332342eab60","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q560c88a5db586e678439","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":176,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-14T01:32:32.213Z","text":"这几方 也要开始🐶咬🐶模式了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q560c88a5db586e678439","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qfc86194d7404313bf074","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":177,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-14T01:39:11.968Z","text":"Percy的话 只能听一半\n这次鼓动1800人，目的不止是恶心Luc\n检方是要拿这当抓手，做实破产案债权人，不然刑事案立案依据，就垮了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc86194d7404313bf074","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qd488a7d133dd21b3650d","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":178,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-14T01:41:50.339Z","text":"做不实的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd488a7d133dd21b3650d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q4687cf6482c29971f180","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":179,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-14T01:42:02.181Z","text":"拱卒 julia","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4687cf6482c29971f180","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q3c3763ffc904442f8e21","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":180,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-14T01:46:40.932Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]\n你的推里，这个图，是直接“盗用”群里的\n划红线的地方，是我做的标记\n你不说话，也否认这个登记可能的负面作用，就说明很有问题啊","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c3763ffc904442f8e21","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q6beb08aafe2c38e43fc3","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":181,"speaker":".an***","date":"2026-04-14T02:28:32.956Z","text":"群里讨论到最后得出的真相就是 ：刑事庭用破产厅的虚假债权人投诉逮捕了郭先生，并借口因为虚假债权人数量多而不得保释郭，而根据拱卒和朱莉亚的虚假债权人身份逮捕郭先生坐实了检方逮捕和定罪郭先生就是彻头彻尾的司法欺诈，如果辩方律师能够证明拱卒和朱莉亚是虚假债权人，检方的立案和定罪就不能成立，刑事案由此崩塌。但联盟Ava、Nick在庭审期间把辩方律师夸成了一朵花，事实是辩方律师的辩护连门都没有摸到，就是白痴和狗屎，所以郭先生辞掉了他们。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2fb359dd815967532319","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6beb08aafe2c38e43fc3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2fb359dd815967532319","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q2ac95decc3286d687ea4","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":182,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-14T02:31:28.880Z","text":"这是错的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6beb08aafe2c38e43fc3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ac95decc3286d687ea4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6beb08aafe2c38e43fc3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q8c17fba09483d2577686","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":183,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-14T02:31:35.204Z","text":"谁告诉你们是这样的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c17fba09483d2577686","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q64cbac7c772fa40d9ab2","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":184,"speaker":".an***","date":"2026-04-14T02:32:23.659Z","text":"我分析的，不对吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64cbac7c772fa40d9ab2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qde39fe4f3bdb66f86c9f","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":185,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-14T02:32:25.853Z","text":"债权人登记 和抓捕的关系","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde39fe4f3bdb66f86c9f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q21fdb48fa8c6ccb436ee","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":186,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-14T02:32:35.610Z","text":"还没有任何证据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21fdb48fa8c6ccb436ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qc202e711ebe9537b7bda","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":187,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-14T02:32:51.288Z","text":"抓捕和债权人登记没关系 或者说 没有证据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc202e711ebe9537b7bda","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qa55b654da030ef240950","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":188,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-14T02:33:40.146Z","text":"FBI从2020就开始调查郭，那时候已经有国内在美报案的，比如意见虎，阿刁等，还没有债权人的事儿","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa55b654da030ef240950","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q428cffe3eaa692f9b2e8","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":189,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-14T02:34:33.569Z","text":"郭20222申请个人破产，才有Luc成为受托人，开始债权人登记\n拱猪 Julia是既在FBI报案，又在破产案登记债权人，而这两个人的GTV投资已经退回，肯定是虚假债权人\n2023抓捕的时候，有一个理由是，认为他可能有逃跑风险","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q428cffe3eaa692f9b2e8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qea25687e116d690079ab","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":190,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-14T02:35:59.382Z","text":"郭因为，鼓动债权人的虚假登记，在被抓捕后，不让保释","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea25687e116d690079ab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qf54e77d85e19126da44f","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":191,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-14T02:42:41.588Z","text":"批准起诉后，通常很快就会逮捕。但理论上，批准起诉后可以5年10年的不逮捕，但起诉依然有效。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf54e77d85e19126da44f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qedf636c334ae09d794f1","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":192,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-14T02:44:01.070Z","text":"债权人登记的债权金额成为受害者损失，这肯定在大陪审团批准起诉时起了作用。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qedf636c334ae09d794f1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qb8703569158965f8d03b","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":193,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-14T02:46:06.316Z","text":"检方说thousands if victims 应该是在盖儿之前","edited":false,"reply_to":"q21fdb48fa8c6ccb436ee","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb8703569158965f8d03b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21fdb48fa8c6ccb436ee","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q5beff7397c1e7cd7c89d","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":194,"speaker":".an***","date":"2026-04-14T02:47:35.365Z","text":"大陪审团批准起诉的基础是什么？哪里能看到批准起诉的文件呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5beff7397c1e7cd7c89d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q52b324c6c04201142105","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":195,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-14T02:48:08.114Z","text":"看不到。被告可以申请披露。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5beff7397c1e7cd7c89d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52b324c6c04201142105","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5beff7397c1e7cd7c89d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qf4f84be754c3a109f874","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":196,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-14T02:48:26.584Z","text":"thousand也不一定是债权人 也有可能检方瞎编","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb8703569158965f8d03b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4f84be754c3a109f874","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb8703569158965f8d03b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qb960a52c122719abe3ef","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":197,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-14T02:50:03.528Z","text":"盖尔的830 也这样说","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf4f84be754c3a109f874","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb960a52c122719abe3ef","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4f84be754c3a109f874","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"q0601730f46197dc7dcae","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":198,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-14T02:50:22.927Z","text":"都是吓唬人的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0601730f46197dc7dcae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qdea361617a89bcd3a572","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":199,"speaker":".an***","date":"2026-04-14T02:57:53.717Z","text":"这个很重要，被告总应该知道为什么被殴打！战友们也应该知道郭被逮捕的原因。三年多了，联盟从未告诉大家郭为什么被逮捕，着急使不上劲，无语了！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q52b324c6c04201142105","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdea361617a89bcd3a572","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52b324c6c04201142105","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"},{"id":"qf8d051c5d861899aa864","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":200,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-14T03:01:59.784Z","text":"这就是他们的目的啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdea361617a89bcd3a572","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8d051c5d861899aa864","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdea361617a89bcd3a572","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000100","next_batch_id":"batch-000102"}