{"id":"batch-000103","number":103,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-04-19T03:57:44.813Z","date_end":"2026-04-22T03:18:58.449Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 103 (Apr 19, 2026 – Apr 22, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Batch 103 (April 19, 2026 to April 22, 2026) centers on whether Guo is treated as a stand-alone criminal matter or reinterpreted through alleged false-creditor and alter-ego tactics involving BVI and Gclub entities. Participants dispute Luc’s role and intent, whether bankruptcy coordination was a tactical lever for criminal process control, and whether late procedural moves—stay requests, filing windows, and second-review strategy—can materially alter sentencing or outcomes. They also contest forfeiture breadth, evidentiary reliability, and the meanings of 833, 853(n), and the 489 Judgment footpage S4. Community statements, not court findings.","guide_en":[{"title":"Narrative split: Guo case as a stand-alone conviction or a false-creditor-driven reconstruction","description":"Participants argue over whether the case should stay framed as the original Guo prosecution or be reconstructed through alleged false creditor-chain tactics tied to BVI and Gclub entities, with no shared interpretation reached. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q67be3404ccdb94cd9743","q8862097ae39e42301a56","q35b3574975fd03e5ef58","q637364958e23bec861cc"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q67be3404ccdb94cd9743","summary_en":"One participant said the discussion had only now entered what they considered the real Guo case. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q8862097ae39e42301a56","summary_en":"A participant asked whether Luc now realized he had been manipulated by the debtor. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q35b3574975fd03e5ef58","summary_en":"A participant argued that BVI and Gclub operations should be treated as interested parties, said the BVI ruling does not support a Guo alter-ego theory, and said any fake registered creditors should be challenged against beneficial owners instead. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q637364958e23bec861cc","summary_en":"Another participant contended Luc was misled and should not have accepted fake creditor registrations. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Luc positioning dispute: victim or co-conspirator, and whether conspiratorial boundary is met","description":"Participants contend that Luc may have been used as bait rather than a co-actor, while others describe a chain of conduct suggesting he crossed into knowing participation. The debate remains contested. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q35b3574975fd03e5ef58","q637364958e23bec861cc","qa8c2a9873461a39cada2","q6cdaa37b51fec6d10a9d"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q35b3574975fd03e5ef58","summary_en":"One view says Luc, BVI, and Gclub-related creditor filings should be viewed as a suspect false-creditor structure rather than a simple cooperation role. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q637364958e23bec861cc","summary_en":"Another participant reiterated that Luc was deceived and should not have accepted dubious creditor registration. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qa8c2a9873461a39cada2","summary_en":"A participant claimed Luc moved from accepting an earlier setup through filing pressure to a contempt finding, leaving him unable to reverse course and leaving the criminal case to absorb major blame. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q6cdaa37b51fec6d10a9d","summary_en":"Another participant asserted Luc accepted false creditor registration to frame Guo and deliberately achieve Guo’s detention, describing that as a completed mission. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Whether bankruptcy proceedings served criminal strategy: consolidation, stay, and linkage to the related case path","description":"Participants argue about whether bankruptcy consolidation was used as leverage to force appearances, or whether the move was not a real merger and instead aimed at procedural suspension. The practical procedural route remains disputed. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q3a10fabc22cab733eb91","qa28f1c23a478949583f5","q6f83ab5bfff8dc5974a8","qde93ba2143bb6d3035c6"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q3a10fabc22cab733eb91","summary_en":"A participant claimed Guo requested bankruptcy consolidation to force Luc into court. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qa28f1c23a478949583f5","summary_en":"Another participant disputed that view, arguing it should not be treated as consolidation. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q6f83ab5bfff8dc5974a8","summary_en":"One participant characterized the filing posture as a stay-related move. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qde93ba2143bb6d3035c6","summary_en":"A further participant reinforced the same procedural framing with a brief statement indicating “suspension.” Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Late-April rhythm battle: stay, filing window, and the two-stage appellate sequence","description":"Participants contend over timing strategy before sentencing, including whether and how to request stay relief, whether fax submissions are still viable, and whether the final days should be used to pause sentence proceedings. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q054086e80378dd9d03d6","q56e68729743b2183a41d","q6a02db74c19e4405e147","q95f22077536994d237e5"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q054086e80378dd9d03d6","summary_en":"One participant said the stay motion was late and complained that a draft for the South District had only just been filed. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q56e68729743b2183a41d","summary_en":"A participant argued that with six days before sentencing, incomplete court uploads for third-party self-prosecutors violated procedural rules, and urged immediate notices to halt sentencing for those not yet in second-review status, while others were already applying there. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q6a02db74c19e4405e147","summary_en":"A participant proposed asking the Supreme Court directly for a stay. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q95f22077536994d237e5","summary_en":"Another participant said fax filing might still be possible in this context. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Wang Yaping plea text and whether it was meant to absorb liability for Guo","description":"Participants argue over what Wang’s plea indicates, including whether her admissions go beyond a narrow count set, whether forfeiture terms exceeded those admissions, and whether intent to frame Guo can be inferred. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qf23e63757f2c0b3ecca8","qf70bccbff92840c59fcc","q220fec8de4663d232537","q0def78ee7968bb5a0830"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qf23e63757f2c0b3ecca8","summary_en":"One participant bluntly claimed Wang sold out Guo. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf70bccbff92840c59fcc","summary_en":"A participant stated that Wang accepted guilt on two counts, while the forfeiture request was materially broader. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q220fec8de4663d232537","summary_en":"Another participant suggested her plea appeared to cover more than just the GTV matters. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q0def78ee7968bb5a0830","summary_en":"A participant said Wang’s admission of party membership alone does not prove intent, and argued that one must show deliberate framing of Guo to establish that claim. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Forfeiture and asset recovery become a turning point: crime-fund boundaries and limits on third-party claims","description":"Participants argue that forfeiture scope, settlement context, and civil-money-trail prerequisites could sharply shift economic exposure, while contending whether a third-party claimant can succeed without proving transfer or commingling. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q4f75e515a3afd55319fe","qaf24a72a72477301481d","qf1b3dba27c8020260e1e","q85ed11d6ecfa9ae8d9e5","q840f8e55600dd7c02ec0"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q4f75e515a3afd55319fe","summary_en":"One participant claimed the defendant denied GTV guilt because of a settlement with the SEC. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qaf24a72a72477301481d","summary_en":"Another participant argued that even without admitting GTV liability, the assets could still fall within forfeiture scope. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf1b3dba27c8020260e1e","summary_en":"A participant added that any GTV investment alone was presented as enough to support that forfeiture reach. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q85ed11d6ecfa9ae8d9e5","summary_en":"Another participant cited a 14亿 forfeiture figure, saying Guo did not plead while Wang pleaded and accepted forfeiture. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q840f8e55600dd7c02ec0","summary_en":"A participant argued the civil-ancillary track is separate and requires independent proof that funds were transferred or heavily commingled, or otherwise forfeiture would fail and assets should be restored. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Evidence frame disputes: alter ego, witness performance, and authenticity of court-records","description":"Participants dispute whether the evidentiary framing itself is sound, including alter-ego doctrine claims, witness credibility under alleged coercion, and whether trial recordings were authentic or selectively presented. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q5cdef3b5de3f2f3ed2e4","q35e9a2affc2108bd70e8","q6a2263fc909491176dfc","q60c7791ec5f26ef45113"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q5cdef3b5de3f2f3ed2e4","summary_en":"A participant raised the alter-ego theory as a key evidentiary framing point. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q35e9a2affc2108bd70e8","summary_en":"A participant claimed that Li Ya was allegedly pressured by Zhang to lie, describing her as a single parent under life-threat pressure and likely distressed during testimony. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q6a2263fc909491176dfc","summary_en":"Another participant said several witnesses appeared to perform for the jury, suggesting theatrical testimony rather than reliable evidence. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q60c7791ec5f26ef45113","summary_en":"A participant cited host commentary that the trial remarks in question came from trial audio playback, not live courtroom outbursts. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Communications and digital cash-flow chain: letters, MDC, phone contact, and digital banking gaps","description":"Participants contend over whether alleged letters, telecom contact, and digital banking references support a continuity of evidence or reveal unresolved gaps, including whether official certification was required for prison correspondence. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q45594e51761560eee783","qa0fd1b658c00b3c759e2","q61b6f048ee141305e794","q5c68ef49a0259f0326fe"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q45594e51761560eee783","summary_en":"One participant inferred that a letter written during sentencing about the case was a pretext and therefore likely false. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qa0fd1b658c00b3c759e2","summary_en":"Another participant countered that any such letter required MDC certification. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q61b6f048ee141305e794","summary_en":"A participant observed that prosecutor 833 had not raised digital bank matters, suggesting potential issues in the digital banking restraint basis. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q5c68ef49a0259f0326fe","summary_en":"A participant followed up by asking whether a mandatory order had been clearly addressed on that point. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Alliances, factions, and opinion-market narratives: support shifts against allegations of backstage operators","description":"Participants argue that public feud narratives and alliance messaging are themselves tactical, with claims that faction behavior in forums is performative and that support messaging may be used to reshape case perceptions. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q818160da648b801d726d","q3f9075b5e5fc73ef45f7","qdd9f368c58a1db45cf15","qca111958ed17693bf719","q6e9f8a4c4f4275b6c286"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q818160da648b801d726d","summary_en":"One participant argued that despite not denying Guo-authored correspondence, a supporter simultaneously claimed alliance backing for Guo, implying a deep link. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q3f9075b5e5fc73ef45f7","summary_en":"Another participant labeled that positioning as deceptive strategy. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qdd9f368c58a1db45cf15","summary_en":"A participant interpreted the behavior as aligning with the backers’ third-wave strategic interests. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qca111958ed17693bf719","summary_en":"Another participant reported a public argument between two online actors, described the clash as intra-factional and asked another user to intervene. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q6e9f8a4c4f4275b6c286","summary_en":"A participant suggested many such quarrels were for audience optics, noting they had been blocked/unblocked in a way consistent with visibility management. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Indictment text and procedural boundary conflict: version differences, supplemental charging, and procedural expansion","description":"Participants contend that discrepancies across charging documents and references to additional versions may signal procedural overreach, with disagreement about whether filings were properly established and what counts in the record control later arguments. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q2d4dcb8207ad2a0bc3ba","qb4f66a16b1f17c17424e","q3d379d1460ea2aa6bee5","qc3838b198176257b1970","q498bab2764a1b35fee44"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q2d4dcb8207ad2a0bc3ba","summary_en":"A participant asserted there was a specific document showing Wang’s consent to forfeiture. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qb4f66a16b1f17c17424e","summary_en":"Another participant could not confirm memory of that file and said it was likely circulated before. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q3d379d1460ea2aa6bee5","summary_en":"A further participant introduced a claim that a ten-percent point in the materials was especially significant. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qc3838b198176257b1970","summary_en":"Another participant speculated the cited version was likely the second or third indictment iteration approved by a grand jury. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q498bab2764a1b35fee44","summary_en":"A participant referenced the 489 judgment footpage S4 as part of that procedural comparison. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Third-party litigation and sentencing reversibility: scope of 2255/33 and post-conviction limits","description":"Participants argue about who can challenge outcomes after conviction, contrasting defendant-only reversal channels with third-party limits to protecting proprietary interests and immediate litigation remedies before sentencing. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q9d5ad34363f279baa4cc","qc543c9b661edbee18e94","q513dd79bf3a99741ad08","q75de7076b8d763fd7add"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q9d5ad34363f279baa4cc","summary_en":"A participant stated that after conviction, reversal is mainly via 2255 or 33 mechanisms used by the defendant. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qc543c9b661edbee18e94","summary_en":"Another participant argued the prosecution claim is difficult for the defendant to overturn, though third parties may still challenge it. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q513dd79bf3a99741ad08","summary_en":"A participant insisted third parties can only preserve and defend their own interests. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q75de7076b8d763fd7add","summary_en":"Another participant said private prosecutors not yet in second-review could ask the South District to suspend sentencing, while those already in second-review had already sought that relief. Community statements, not court findings."}]}],"summary":"讨论首先在叙事起点上分裂：有人将郭案转向“虚假债权链”，有人坚持按既有案件本体展开；围绕luc是否套入骗局、是否参与共谋，及其与检方关系长期争议。程序路径是次级焦点却更激烈，参与者对破产与刑事衔接、起诉书版本、是否可在无CERT下申请stay、4/27量刑前最后提交窗、二巡与最高法院路线等意见不一。量刑与没收上，围绕认罪文本是否受压迫、没收范围、资产归属与第三方主张缺口持续争论。证据层面反复质疑alter ego、证人可信度、通信和庭审记录完整性；外部传播与平台账号来源亦被纳入推演但多停留在待核查。整体来看，争议核心集中在“程序正当性是否足以改变实质判断”与“责任边界是否可重定”。","guide":[{"title":"叙事起点分裂：郭案是单案定罪，还是“虚假债权驱动”重构","message_ids":["q67be3404ccdb94cd9743","q8862097ae39e42301a56","q35b3574975fd03e5ef58","q637364958e23bec861cc"]},{"title":"Luc定位争议：受害者还是参与共谋？同谋边界是否成立","message_ids":["q35b3574975fd03e5ef58","q637364958e23bec861cc","qa8c2a9873461a39cada2","q6cdaa37b51fec6d10a9d"]},{"title":"破产程序是否服务于刑事战术：并案、暂缓与后续“王案”衔接","message_ids":["q3a10fabc22cab733eb91","qa28f1c23a478949583f5","q6f83ab5bfff8dc5974a8","qde93ba2143bb6d3035c6"]},{"title":"4月末时点下的节奏斗争：stay、提交窗与二巡/二步走路径","message_ids":["q054086e80378dd9d03d6","q56e68729743b2183a41d","q6a02db74c19e4405e147","q95f22077536994d237e5"]},{"title":"王艳萍认罪文本与“替代郭背锅”并未定论","message_ids":["qf23e63757f2c0b3ecca8","qf70bccbff92840c59fcc","q220fec8de4663d232537","q0def78ee7968bb5a0830"]},{"title":"没收与财产追缴成为转折：犯罪资金边界与第三方主张受限","message_ids":["q4f75e515a3afd55319fe","qaf24a72a72477301481d","qf1b3dba27c8020260e1e","q85ed11d6ecfa9ae8d9e5","q840f8e55600dd7c02ec0"]},{"title":"证据口径反复拉扯：alter 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PAX  美国小李","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q746a6d08b524d8b10ab7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q9dbb851c856ec46c0d90","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":404,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T01:14:54.991Z","text":"不然，万一真的退回给投资者，破产案PAX就拿不到了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9dbb851c856ec46c0d90","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qff44acfb581b05d4270f","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":405,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T01:20:08.196Z","text":"最紧张的不应该是联盟吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff44acfb581b05d4270f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q401a293ec06de32c40cc","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":406,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T01:39:25.457Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]\n这说明 青们确实开始紧张了\n如果真有把握赢，第一，不会改名字，第二，不拉黑人，因为没必要\n心里越虚，反而越要折腾和掩饰","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q401a293ec06de32c40cc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qba216c878e15bb79fbe5","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":407,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-21T01:46:19.229Z","text":"是我好久以前拉黑它的。但是因为它改了名字，而且最近的贴也完全不一样，所以我不知道它是哪个货。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q401a293ec06de32c40cc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba216c878e15bb79fbe5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q401a293ec06de32c40cc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q71f4f12b14b10344caeb","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":408,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T01:48:40.094Z","text":"不是这个意思\n赢H 这个账号的动作 说明青们紧张了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qba216c878e15bb79fbe5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71f4f12b14b10344caeb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba216c878e15bb79fbe5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q528aaa07ce18febdb142","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":409,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T02:03:10.319Z","text":"其实他懂\n青们在外面瞎闹 天天骂检方 说和CCP没区别 这个是可以算到郭头上\n郭在MDC仍指挥追随者，继续诈骗，攻击司法","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe203db0615300d980c9c","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q528aaa07ce18febdb142","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qfb906eb18c0c5a22ec54","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":410,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T02:06:33.481Z","text":"辩方应该是通过822 833发现，自己被青联盟骗了，所以834要切割郭和青联盟","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb906eb18c0c5a22ec54","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q97d7681963ca120ad736","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":411,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T02:07:10.259Z","text":"［用户 sar***］ X上那个赢H 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这个是不是矛盾？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8403cdce9d5de76665bc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q4e36110ade89c2cf010d","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":431,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T02:53:50.199Z","text":"检方在受害者矛盾的地方多的很","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8403cdce9d5de76665bc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e36110ade89c2cf010d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8403cdce9d5de76665bc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q47709f31581a4918f0d0","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":432,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T03:03:31.130Z","text":"https://x.com/i/status/2046396879861121504","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47709f31581a4918f0d0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q65294f034e08ab606ded","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":433,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T03:04:25.600Z","text":"所以这个人说的很明显了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65294f034e08ab606ded","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q986c5d15553b76f65a60","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":434,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T03:06:04.643Z","text":"这人的意思就是不要去法庭，不要操心，案件自己就会消失，郭自动无罪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q986c5d15553b76f65a60","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qe56da7670c4fc75f40e5","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":435,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T03:06:22.562Z","text":"他看戏，最后拿钱，和[删节：隐私信息]一样","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe56da7670c4fc75f40e5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qf38187c9f7c578b04ba0","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":436,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T03:07:23.536Z","text":"战友变成戏友😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf38187c9f7c578b04ba0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q2f1f129fcb64106f62c5","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":437,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T03:07:59.852Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]之前不就说，我们都是命运共同体吗","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f1f129fcb64106f62c5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qe8b41d9446c3d073d372","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":438,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T03:08:22.974Z","text":"这帮人说白了玩儿的就是信息差","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2f1f129fcb64106f62c5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe8b41d9446c3d073d372","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f1f129fcb64106f62c5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q57abe92a29440fe8eb7a","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":439,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T03:09:06.516Z","text":"你觉得他能有912专案组那帮人聪明？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8d5bdd7518e9a7369e91","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q57abe92a29440fe8eb7a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q598be3e10f2548f80e83","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":440,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T03:09:35.375Z","text":"提前看了剧本，换谁，都会演","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q598be3e10f2548f80e83","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q3e6c469a7f4592e926ed","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":441,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T03:09:54.059Z","text":"这帮人现在等着郭出来，继续演","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e6c469a7f4592e926ed","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qecc979d5832e56bff1aa","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":442,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T03:10:44.216Z","text":"所以我说[删节：成员身份]这样的骑墙派，会活到最后","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qecc979d5832e56bff1aa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qe1e23669e8fa47fb9140","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":443,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T03:10:55.716Z","text":"这种人到最后会最惨","edited":false,"reply_to":"qecc979d5832e56bff1aa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1e23669e8fa47fb9140","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qecc979d5832e56bff1aa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qaa9666ab6d8f62cfb463","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":444,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T03:11:14.350Z","text":"他想提前先把螺丝哥坑死","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe1e23669e8fa47fb9140","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa9666ab6d8f62cfb463","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1e23669e8fa47fb9140","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q0b70b389bc673b353ecb","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":445,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T03:11:31.510Z","text":"然后说一句，对不起，我不是故意的，怪你自己","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b70b389bc673b353ecb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q570d2356616b7e63e40a","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":446,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T03:12:13.144Z","text":"农夫与蛇 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还是怎么着？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61b6f048ee141305e794","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q7654fbe6a19c1cd9ebff","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":481,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-21T04:43:30.911Z","text":"谁能分析一下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7654fbe6a19c1cd9ebff","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q23d0e0993eb3bce557ec","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":482,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-21T04:43:47.525Z","text":"我打算把这个写入二巡stay","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23d0e0993eb3bce557ec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qf5026bd092f0dbd818df","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":483,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T04:44:23.963Z","text":"你的理由必须和为什么要先审查你的强制令联系起来","edited":false,"reply_to":"q61b6f048ee141305e794","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5026bd092f0dbd818df","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61b6f048ee141305e794","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q5c68ef49a0259f0326fe","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":484,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T04:44:27.109Z","text":"你强制令说了吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c68ef49a0259f0326fe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qde321b9e4ef5824a8dbb","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":485,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-21T04:45:04.420Z","text":"强制令里都提了 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你就说这些钱检方根本没解释","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q96e49abe06ea3033c7e7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q93cfc7193cea453abd52","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":514,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T04:53:29.090Z","text":"curcio 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joh***］  我觉得 我这个思路可行","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21a7dae815ea1b7949fd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q8388bd2dd433fc290fd7","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":529,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T04:59:19.076Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 王认罪 导致投资人的钱都被扣 对吧？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8388bd2dd433fc290fd7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q24cb2e17686e85f4cc58","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":530,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T04:59:43.462Z","text":"［用户 xin***］  我觉得你可以写一个新的","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q24cb2e17686e85f4cc58","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q7bd6c64205f1eada85be","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":531,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T05:00:02.089Z","text":"［用户 xin***］  你拿着伪类的视频 就是王艳萍是特务的那个","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7bd6c64205f1eada85be","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q0a4e4b0e6884b07bc887","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":532,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T05:00:04.517Z","text":"找一下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a4e4b0e6884b07bc887","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q2ed5b2c6c79d849efb62","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":533,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T05:00:31.217Z","text":"然后要求公开王艳萍是不是特务 认罪是否是为了执行中共任务抢你的钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ed5b2c6c79d849efb62","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q85ed11d6ecfa9ae8d9e5","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":534,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T05:02:28.546Z","text":"没收14亿，郭又没认罪，是王认罪同意没收","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8388bd2dd433fc290fd7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85ed11d6ecfa9ae8d9e5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8388bd2dd433fc290fd7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q324c7cbcaadba9ee6018","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":535,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T05:03:19.896Z","text":"青们 羊帮 都避免谈这个 \n老是把14亿按在郭头上，然后天天骂检方","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q324c7cbcaadba9ee6018","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q60e323df742391a695a0","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":536,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T05:03:22.330Z","text":"王没有资格同意没收","edited":false,"reply_to":"q85ed11d6ecfa9ae8d9e5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60e323df742391a695a0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85ed11d6ecfa9ae8d9e5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qa1838cdaaced1e5d9443","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":537,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T05:03:48.755Z","text":"郭也没有","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1838cdaaced1e5d9443","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q1c1bc808ade7f2ce233f","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":538,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T05:04:11.061Z","text":"现在检方是按照犯罪资金没收的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c1bc808ade7f2ce233f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qf9c31eeaa461278584ce","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":539,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T05:04:20.704Z","text":"不是按照这钱属于谁没收的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9c31eeaa461278584ce","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qa77d347db14adda8e38b","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":540,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T05:04:31.968Z","text":"犯罪是陪审团定的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa77d347db14adda8e38b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qa334d667b62edb6b768f","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":541,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T05:04:38.390Z","text":"对啊 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王艳萍是党员 \n2: https://youtu.be/sjDuRwIpn4U 大家看吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee0cff80eebdd8d8e568","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q1ff59de037a3d3285cc4","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":549,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T05:07:09.402Z","text":"［用户 xin***］  你去写自诉 带着这个视频 说王艳萍党员","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ff59de037a3d3285cc4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q05cde0a8befdcdf72c5c","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":550,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T05:07:22.018Z","text":"你怀疑王雁平执行共产党任务没收投资人钱财","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05cde0a8befdcdf72c5c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q7fc61fc05db3f95f871b","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":551,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-21T05:07:36.909Z","text":"基本上就是检方说啥就是啥，跟被告的其它案件差不多，根本就是被告对立面的一言堂，只是南区由于刑事案是第三条法官，面上好看一点。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fc61fc05db3f95f871b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qaf42aadf9ee7212becca","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":552,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T05:07:36.967Z","text":"要求公布王雁平特务编号","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf42aadf9ee7212becca","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qb670f84ec056ec3a9c92","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":553,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T05:09:36.620Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ 你去刷屏房间和[删节：成员身份]对话吧","edited":true,"reply_to":"qaf42aadf9ee7212becca","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb670f84ec056ec3a9c92","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf42aadf9ee7212becca","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q197ad7d63f1648e045e0","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":554,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-21T05:09:54.675Z","text":"然后第三方进来说钱并没有变成犯罪所得，只有被转移走的才算犯罪所得，然后就是不给上传。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q197ad7d63f1648e045e0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q22832f736df795e59090","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":555,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T05:10:37.523Z","text":"现在说这个太晚了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q197ad7d63f1648e045e0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22832f736df795e59090","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q197ad7d63f1648e045e0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q16466d1464e808c789a1","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":556,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T05:10:48.442Z","text":"陪审团已经定罪了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16466d1464e808c789a1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q5b171c805fb2b0f1de2d","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":557,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-21T05:11:01.030Z","text":"早就说了，只是没被上传。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q22832f736df795e59090","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b171c805fb2b0f1de2d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22832f736df795e59090","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q82de6bfaa81183ffdb24","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":558,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T05:11:22.407Z","text":"陪审团定罪之后，说这个都太晚了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5b171c805fb2b0f1de2d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82de6bfaa81183ffdb24","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b171c805fb2b0f1de2d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q7223ded8644403b3d6aa","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":559,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T05:11:40.483Z","text":"这种话应该庭审之前说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7223ded8644403b3d6aa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q41e3a2b28ed9dea013a7","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":560,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-21T05:12:09.314Z","text":"陪审团定罪没有那么大翻，陪审团定罪后，只要有争议，那你美国政府就得单独证明G enterprise 是由被告所有。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41e3a2b28ed9dea013a7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q5d704eb58ba9218fb712","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":561,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T05:12:16.908Z","text":"陪审团定罪之后，钱就是犯罪资金了，除了gtv的钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d704eb58ba9218fb712","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qcc69b479f8462cc0ece2","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":562,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T05:12:22.297Z","text":"这可能就是 代理律师 张永兵的作用\n把控证据","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7223ded8644403b3d6aa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc69b479f8462cc0ece2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7223ded8644403b3d6aa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qc543c9b661edbee18e94","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":563,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-21T05:12:51.229Z","text":"检方这个主张，被告不好再反驳，但不妨碍第三方反驳。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5d704eb58ba9218fb712","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc543c9b661edbee18e94","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d704eb58ba9218fb712","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q48ba457dd6a891a3078e","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":564,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-21T05:13:10.123Z","text":"并且法官如果守法，必须给听证。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q48ba457dd6a891a3078e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q9d5ad34363f279baa4cc","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":565,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T05:13:17.212Z","text":"定罪后，如果想推翻案件，只能被告用2255或者33","edited":false,"reply_to":"q41e3a2b28ed9dea013a7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d5ad34363f279baa4cc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41e3a2b28ed9dea013a7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qc0836aec19d8f051c874","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":566,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T05:13:28.024Z","text":"没法证明 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是这意思 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