{"id":"batch-000103","number":103,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-04-19T03:57:44.813Z","date_end":"2026-04-22T03:18:58.449Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 103 (Apr 19, 2026 – Apr 22, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Disagreements split over whether Guo's prosecution stems from a fabricated creditor chain or established charges, alongside Luc's alleged complicity. Procedural disputes intensify over bankruptcy-criminal coordination, indictment versions, and stay requests ahead of the Apr 27, 2026 sentencing window via the Second Circuit or Supreme Court. Meanwhile, participants dispute plea voluntariness, forfeiture scope, alter-ego evidence, and witness credibility, debating whether procedural challenges can alter substantive rulings or redefine liability boundaries.","guide_en":[{"title":"Narrative Divergence: Prosecution as an Isolated Conviction versus a Fabricated Creditor Scheme","description":"Participants debate whether the prosecution represents a standalone proceeding or a narrative driven by fraudulent creditor claims.","message_ids":["q67be3404ccdb94cd9743","q8862097ae39e42301a56","q35b3574975fd03e5ef58","q637364958e23bec861cc"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q67be3404ccdb94cd9743","summary_en":"kir*** contends that the genuine case against Guo is only just beginning."},{"message_id":"q8862097ae39e42301a56","summary_en":"reb*** questions whether Luc currently realizes he was deceived by the debtor."},{"message_id":"q35b3574975fd03e5ef58","summary_en":"joh*** argues that registered creditors lack grounds to pursue Guo because the BVI ruling rejected alter-ego claims regarding the G Group, suggesting claims should target specific beneficiaries instead."},{"message_id":"q637364958e23bec861cc","summary_en":"joh*** asserts that Luc was indeed tricked and should not have accepted false creditor registrations."}]},{"title":"Disputed Role of Luc: Victim versus Co-Conspirator in the Bankruptcy Proceedings","description":"Participants discuss whether Luc functioned as an unwitting victim or an active participant in an effort to implicate Guo.","message_ids":["q35b3574975fd03e5ef58","q637364958e23bec861cc","qa8c2a9873461a39cada2","q6cdaa37b51fec6d10a9d"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q35b3574975fd03e5ef58","summary_en":"joh*** argues that registered creditors lack grounds to pursue Guo given the BVI decision rejecting alter-ego status, asserting false creditor registrations occurred."},{"message_id":"q637364958e23bec861cc","summary_en":"joh*** contends that Luc was duped and improperly accepted fabricated creditor registrations."},{"message_id":"qa8c2a9873461a39cada2","summary_en":"joh*** contends that Luc reached a point of no return after accepting Julia and facing contempt findings, arguing the criminal case relies on him taking the blame."},{"message_id":"q6cdaa37b51fec6d10a9d","summary_en":"beg*** argues that Luc accepted fraudulent creditor registrations specifically to frame Guo and ensure his detention."}]},{"title":"Bankruptcy as a Criminal Strategy: Consolidation, Stays, and Coordination with the Wang Case","description":"Participants examine whether procedural maneuvers in bankruptcy serve tactical goals in related criminal proceedings.","message_ids":["q3a10fabc22cab733eb91","qa28f1c23a478949583f5","q6f83ab5bfff8dc5974a8","qde93ba2143bb6d3035c6"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q3a10fabc22cab733eb91","summary_en":"joh*** suggests that Guo requested consolidation of the bankruptcy cases to compel Luc's appearance in court."},{"message_id":"qa28f1c23a478949583f5","summary_en":"kir*** contends that the motion was not for consolidation."},{"message_id":"q6f83ab5bfff8dc5974a8","summary_en":"kir*** clarifies that the procedural request was for a temporary suspension."},{"message_id":"qde93ba2143bb6d3035c6","summary_en":"kir*** reiterates that the procedural request was for a stay."}]},{"title":"Late-April Procedural Maneuvers: Stays, Filing Deadlines, and Appellate Pathways","description":"Participants debate timing strategies concerning stay applications and appellate filings ahead of sentencing.","message_ids":["q054086e80378dd9d03d6","q56e68729743b2183a41d","q6a02db74c19e4405e147","q95f22077536994d237e5"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q054086e80378dd9d03d6","summary_en":"sar*** worries there is insufficient time since the draft stay for the Southern District was only prepared the previous evening."},{"message_id":"q56e68729743b2183a41d","summary_en":"beg*** urges third-party petitioners under Section 853(n) to email the Southern District demanding a halt to sentencing six days before the hearing."},{"message_id":"q6a02db74c19e4405e147","summary_en":"kir*** questions whether a stay application should be submitted directly to the Supreme Court."},{"message_id":"q95f22077536994d237e5","summary_en":"kir*** recalls that filings could potentially even be submitted by fax."}]},{"title":"Yamping Wang's Plea Agreement: Scope of Guilt and Scapegoating Claims","description":"Participants dispute the implications of Yamping Wang's plea agreement and whether she acted to shield Guo.","message_ids":["qf23e63757f2c0b3ecca8","qf70bccbff92840c59fcc","q220fec8de4663d232537","q0def78ee7968bb5a0830"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qf23e63757f2c0b3ecca8","summary_en":"kir*** contends that Wang betrayed Guo through her plea."},{"message_id":"qf70bccbff92840c59fcc","summary_en":"joh*** argues that while Wang pled guilty to only two counts, her agreed forfeiture scope was significantly broader."},{"message_id":"q220fec8de4663d232537","summary_en":"kir*** observes that Wang appeared to plead guilty to charges extending beyond GTV."},{"message_id":"q0def78ee7968bb5a0830","summary_en":"chu*** argues that Wang acknowledged party membership and contends that proving she deliberately framed Guo is necessary."}]},{"title":"Asset Forfeiture and Recovery: Boundaries of Illicit Funds and Third-Party Rights","description":"Participants analyze the legal boundaries governing forfeiture orders and the burden of proof required for third-party asset claims.","message_ids":["q4f75e515a3afd55319fe","qaf24a72a72477301481d","qf1b3dba27c8020260e1e","q85ed11d6ecfa9ae8d9e5","q840f8e55600dd7c02ec0"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q4f75e515a3afd55319fe","summary_en":"joh*** contends that claims of GTV innocence stem from the SEC settlement."},{"message_id":"qaf24a72a72477301481d","summary_en":"joh*** points out that GTV funds nevertheless remain subject to forfeiture."},{"message_id":"qf1b3dba27c8020260e1e","summary_en":"joh*** maintains that possessing GTV investment funds is sufficient to trigger forfeiture."},{"message_id":"q85ed11d6ecfa9ae8d9e5","summary_en":"joh*** notes that Guo did not plead guilty to the 1.4 billion dollar forfeiture, which Wang agreed to instead."},{"message_id":"q840f8e55600dd7c02ec0","summary_en":"reb*** explains that ancillary civil proceedings are independent and require demonstrating asset transfer or severe commingling before funds can be forfeited."}]},{"title":"Evidentiary Disputes: Alter Ego Theories, Witness Credibility, and Trial Records","description":"Participants question alter-ego allegations, witness authenticity, and trial record integrity.","message_ids":["q5cdef3b5de3f2f3ed2e4","q35e9a2affc2108bd70e8","q6a2263fc909491176dfc","q60c7791ec5f26ef45113"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q5cdef3b5de3f2f3ed2e4","summary_en":"kir*** raises the issue of the alter ego doctrine."},{"message_id":"q35e9a2affc2108bd70e8","summary_en":"joh*** recounts trial testimony from Li Ya alleging threats to commit perjury and speculates about her emotional display before the court."},{"message_id":"q6a2263fc909491176dfc","summary_en":"joh*** contends that trial witnesses behaved like actors performing dramatic theatrical roles for the jury."},{"message_id":"q60c7791ec5f26ef45113","summary_en":"sar*** describes alliance broadcast hosts clarifying that courtroom insults occurred on audio recordings rather than live testimony."}]},{"title":"Communications and Financial Chains: Detention Records and Government Seizures","description":"Participants discuss prison communications verification and omissions regarding digital bank assets in prosecution filings.","message_ids":["q45594e51761560eee783","qa0fd1b658c00b3c759e2","q61b6f048ee141305e794","q5c68ef49a0259f0326fe"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q45594e51761560eee783","summary_en":"joh*** argues that letters discussing case details during detention lack credibility and reflect leadership impatience."},{"message_id":"qa0fd1b658c00b3c759e2","summary_en":"mia*** notes that letters require MDC verification certificates."},{"message_id":"q61b6f048ee141305e794","summary_en":"beg*** questions whether the government omission of the digital bank in prosecution filing 833 implies unlawful seizure."},{"message_id":"q5c68ef49a0259f0326fe","summary_en":"kir*** asks whether the relevant restraining order addressed the digital bank."}]},{"title":"Alliance Factionalism and Public Narratives: Shifting Loyalties and Tactical Clashes","description":"Participants debate internal alliance politics, public posturing, and interpersonal online conflicts.","message_ids":["q818160da648b801d726d","q3f9075b5e5fc73ef45f7","qdd9f368c58a1db45cf15","qca111958ed17693bf719","q6e9f8a4c4f4275b6c286"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q818160da648b801d726d","summary_en":"joh*** contends that an online figure maliciously binds the alliance to Guo by affirming letter authenticity alongside loyalties."},{"message_id":"q3f9075b5e5fc73ef45f7","summary_en":"joh*** describes this maneuver as a shrewd political calculation."},{"message_id":"qdd9f368c58a1db45cf15","summary_en":"kir*** asserts that such actions align with the figure's self-interest in rising to leadership."},{"message_id":"qca111958ed17693bf719","summary_en":"joh*** remarks on a public spat between online personalities and mentions another user requesting mediation."},{"message_id":"q6e9f8a4c4f4275b6c286","summary_en":"sar*** recalls being blocked by an online host and dismisses public disputes as theatrical performances."}]},{"title":"Indictment Discrepancies and Procedural Boundaries: Superseding Versions and Judicial Scope","description":"Participants discuss indictment revisions, docket citations, and procedural limitations in the proceedings.","message_ids":["q2d4dcb8207ad2a0bc3ba","qb4f66a16b1f17c17424e","q3d379d1460ea2aa6bee5","qc3838b198176257b1970","q498bab2764a1b35fee44"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q2d4dcb8207ad2a0bc3ba","summary_en":"kir*** asks which specific docket document records Wang's consent to asset forfeiture."},{"message_id":"qb4f66a16b1f17c17424e","summary_en":"joh*** cannot recall the exact docket number but believes the document was shared previously."},{"message_id":"q3d379d1460ea2aa6bee5","summary_en":"kir*** remarks on a notable ten percent provision."},{"message_id":"qc3838b198176257b1970","summary_en":"reb*** suggests the reference concerns the second or third indictment version approved by the grand jury."},{"message_id":"q498bab2764a1b35fee44","summary_en":"joh*** points to footnote S4 of judgment document 489 for procedural clarification."}]},{"title":"Third-Party Litigation and Sentencing Reversibility: Appellate Prospects at the Second Circuit","description":"Participants dispute the legal avenues available for third parties versus defendants to challenge convictions and sentencing.","message_ids":["q9d5ad34363f279baa4cc","qc543c9b661edbee18e94","q513dd79bf3a99741ad08","q75de7076b8d763fd7add"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q9d5ad34363f279baa4cc","summary_en":"him*** 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ego、证人可信度、通信和庭审记录完整性；外部传播与平台账号来源亦被纳入推演但多停留在待核查。整体来看，争议核心集中在“程序正当性是否足以改变实质判断”与“责任边界是否可重定”。","guide":[{"title":"叙事起点分裂：郭案是单案定罪，还是“虚假债权驱动”重构","message_ids":["q67be3404ccdb94cd9743","q8862097ae39e42301a56","q35b3574975fd03e5ef58","q637364958e23bec861cc"]},{"title":"Luc定位争议：受害者还是参与共谋？同谋边界是否成立","message_ids":["q35b3574975fd03e5ef58","q637364958e23bec861cc","qa8c2a9873461a39cada2","q6cdaa37b51fec6d10a9d"]},{"title":"破产程序是否服务于刑事战术：并案、暂缓与后续“王案”衔接","message_ids":["q3a10fabc22cab733eb91","qa28f1c23a478949583f5","q6f83ab5bfff8dc5974a8","qde93ba2143bb6d3035c6"]},{"title":"4月末时点下的节奏斗争：stay、提交窗与二巡/二步走路径","message_ids":["q054086e80378dd9d03d6","q56e68729743b2183a41d","q6a02db74c19e4405e147","q95f22077536994d237e5"]},{"title":"王艳萍认罪文本与“替代郭背锅”并未定论","message_ids":["qf23e63757f2c0b3ecca8","qf70bccbff92840c59fcc","q220fec8de4663d232537","q0def78ee7968bb5a0830"]},{"title":"没收与财产追缴成为转折：犯罪资金边界与第三方主张受限","message_ids":["q4f75e515a3afd55319fe","qaf24a72a72477301481d","qf1b3dba27c8020260e1e","q85ed11d6ecfa9ae8d9e5","q840f8e55600dd7c02ec0"]},{"title":"证据口径反复拉扯：alter 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）是被告的替代自我或者资金完全由被告支配，否则就不能没收。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35e016d37cff0c930a88","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q8943e2edec1436ecd60b","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":609,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T05:27:28.452Z","text":"就算你第三方有证据，你也只能记录，被告想推翻陪审团，就需要上诉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8943e2edec1436ecd60b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q7691c42f7f4ee1d61c62","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":610,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-21T05:28:06.363Z","text":"定罪了给被告判刑是自动的，但说定罪了就可以没收，那不是自动的，这就是853n条款存在的原因。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0776af905008e13d30a3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7691c42f7f4ee1d61c62","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0776af905008e13d30a3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qcd6e91761fd05151c6a0","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":611,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T05:28:46.017Z","text":"没收有两种：（1）被告控制的资产；（2）犯罪资产","edited":false,"reply_to":"q35e016d37cff0c930a88","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd6e91761fd05151c6a0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35e016d37cff0c930a88","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q5afdfecda505998b1295","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":612,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-21T05:28:51.632Z","text":"不同意了就走民事附属程序，把钱到底属于谁捋清楚再没收。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9111d7a7510b6a78372d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5afdfecda505998b1295","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9111d7a7510b6a78372d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qcadaa8b65acbc7d618fd","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":613,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-21T05:29:28.972Z","text":"第一项可以没收，第二项可以扯皮。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcd6e91761fd05151c6a0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcadaa8b65acbc7d618fd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd6e91761fd05151c6a0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q914790b62bc638e9f67e","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":614,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-21T05:29:45.975Z","text":"我们目前就是在就第二项扯皮。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q914790b62bc638e9f67e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qab6a15602d667a8766d6","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":615,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T05:30:18.256Z","text":"853n需要你证明你的资产和犯罪无关，你对资产的所有权高于被告","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7691c42f7f4ee1d61c62","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab6a15602d667a8766d6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7691c42f7f4ee1d61c62","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q699f33eb4790453c5563","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":616,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-21T05:30:41.332Z","text":"只是被法官给压制了，应该是10月11号就应该开听证来把钱的问题谈清楚。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q699f33eb4790453c5563","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q77948ffb9eed4524bee1","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":617,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-21T05:32:28.232Z","text":"我们就是要主张啊，但是美国政府就是说不允许我们主张，法官也表明了态度不允许主张，您为何表现得觉得它们这么主张有合理性。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qab6a15602d667a8766d6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77948ffb9eed4524bee1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab6a15602d667a8766d6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q6713dace49de324d368a","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":618,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T05:32:41.512Z","text":"现在的问题是，这些钱已经是犯罪资金了，853n想赢几乎不可能","edited":false,"reply_to":"qab6a15602d667a8766d6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6713dace49de324d368a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab6a15602d667a8766d6","reply_label":"查看被回复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替代 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alter ego就松动了\n不然，为嘛青们那么紧张，要召集债权人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qedb89393eec7eb697d95","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q177b245cb0ac0ba4652d","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":640,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-21T05:44:06.499Z","text":"夏凄东 那个推特言论： 他不答应谁也拿不到钱 是另一个alter ego 的反驳","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q177b245cb0ac0ba4652d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q494589a16eacc1c0b905","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":641,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T05:45:02.842Z","text":"她只需要反对alter 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我想用这个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d5296fd734a1df3bd26","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q085bdc083b88a4e8a504","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":643,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-21T05:45:26.637Z","text":"夏凄东的截图","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q085bdc083b88a4e8a504","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q4fb893ac3e5bf2d0aa62","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":644,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T05:45:33.095Z","text":"郭强的案子是因为jurisdiction","edited":false,"reply_to":"q494589a16eacc1c0b905","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4fb893ac3e5bf2d0aa62","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q494589a16eacc1c0b905","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qb1b300a0bd76df7b4a6a","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":645,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T05:45:50.683Z","text":"洗脚所也是bvi","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1b300a0bd76df7b4a6a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qaf5eacc09a471e801394","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":646,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T05:46:00.941Z","text":"管辖地不是主要 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他没法说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ba6d2c35b0a3fcde203","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qc730c88f7a89b79e5b64","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":651,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T05:48:59.570Z","text":"这个不是定罪的标准 但是是量刑的标准","edited":false,"reply_to":"q35e016d37cff0c930a88","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc730c88f7a89b79e5b64","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35e016d37cff0c930a88","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q6e73353441a6f52fa82c","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":652,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T05:50:06.009Z","text":"现在问题是这样 刑事案的alter ego是如何运用在定罪上的 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给南区贴过去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa42a815ff53123734f5e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q0b1d10f33b07196dd75e","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":699,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:21:08.488Z","text":"说王艳萍是特务的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b1d10f33b07196dd75e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q5a65217cc9570954c9e3","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":700,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T06:21:34.811Z","text":"因为Tony的证据，现在只要是在中国的，有家人在中国的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa42a815ff53123734f5e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a65217cc9570954c9e3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa42a815ff53123734f5e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q4431401eda7902391c95","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":701,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:21:39.444Z","text":"这么做的好处是 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就是看郭接不接","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4431401eda7902391c95","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qcaa35eedd094c1cf0923","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":702,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T06:21:55.235Z","text":"和中国有关系的证人证词都不可靠","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcaa35eedd094c1cf0923","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qf0560a9323c108044aa9","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":703,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:21:59.687Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcaa35eedd094c1cf0923","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0560a9323c108044aa9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcaa35eedd094c1cf0923","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q20e98a1a0a805e4da691","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":704,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:22:02.266Z","text":"都是有问题的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20e98a1a0a805e4da691","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q8d27eea048ef9e2b33d1","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":705,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T06:22:26.713Z","text":"王是特务没有任何证据支持","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4431401eda7902391c95","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d27eea048ef9e2b33d1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4431401eda7902391c95","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q60fc334744a9e07abacd","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":706,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:22:39.370Z","text":"但可以开启这个话题让郭接","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8d27eea048ef9e2b33d1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60fc334744a9e07abacd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d27eea048ef9e2b33d1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q6bccb52975199ba0b138","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":707,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T06:22:42.858Z","text":"你只能说，因为她有家人在中国，可能证词不可靠","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6bccb52975199ba0b138","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q8ea0a4283495df7e4db0","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":708,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:22:48.278Z","text":"如果郭真的有她特务编号呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ea0a4283495df7e4db0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q7b1ffe4984b591bb8a52","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":709,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:22:56.246Z","text":"所以我说了 这是豪赌","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b1ffe4984b591bb8a52","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q14e462bc5196ab5d9c53","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":710,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:23:06.419Z","text":"比733赌的更大","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14e462bc5196ab5d9c53","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q25a166273b2480f63c81","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":711,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:23:35.734Z","text":"这个任务只能派[删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25a166273b2480f63c81","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q99cf91bcda62fda6359a","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":712,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T06:23:47.651Z","text":"郭有什么，跟你有什么关系","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8ea0a4283495df7e4db0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99cf91bcda62fda6359a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ea0a4283495df7e4db0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qf781ab7bda5c29da0fce","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":713,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:23:54.561Z","text":"没关系","edited":false,"reply_to":"q99cf91bcda62fda6359a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf781ab7bda5c29da0fce","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99cf91bcda62fda6359a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q8e53b7ab849e509a74a7","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":714,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T06:23:56.694Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]吓死了，好不好","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e53b7ab849e509a74a7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q94be96657f48ed7ed975","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":715,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:24:13.445Z","text":"但这个打法创造了一个机会","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94be96657f48ed7ed975","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qb2940b572987be6fe4ad","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":716,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:24:24.122Z","text":"如果郭不接 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我农场借款就是被他截走了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa87ada8cefd054c9f232","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q00774a05ace74b233985","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":725,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:28:24.550Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 来论证王艳萍同意没收的合法性  她认了两个罪 是否有权同意可以没收到那些东西","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00774a05ace74b233985","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qa66548ba889072c32bbb","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":726,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:29:28.226Z","text":"你们谁去那里买点消息","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa66548ba889072c32bbb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q1f03cf608a3d98cfe266","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":727,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:29:32.594Z","text":"王艳萍到底是不是特务😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f03cf608a3d98cfe266","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q9bceeb3ba33a0a223f3d","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":728,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-21T06:30:05.207Z","text":"blackrose 怎么说？ 好久没看了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9bceeb3ba33a0a223f3d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q21bfb5349b44d92c0bcf","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":729,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T06:30:50.544Z","text":"Blackrose这个帐号到底是怎么回事儿","edited":false,"reply_to":"q77d5485e62a58608c670","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21bfb5349b44d92c0bcf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q76f93253eeb174dc0552","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":730,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T06:35:00.674Z","text":"Blackrose眼里，所有人都是特务","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9bceeb3ba33a0a223f3d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76f93253eeb174dc0552","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9bceeb3ba33a0a223f3d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qf42df6fb62c40bcb3ee6","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":731,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T06:36:42.194Z","text":"两个罪，只有Saraca转款1亿\n其他的追加指控，她沾不上边","edited":false,"reply_to":"q00774a05ace74b233985","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf42df6fb62c40bcb3ee6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00774a05ace74b233985","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qe199f8c32077b0d936bd","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":732,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:38:30.126Z","text":"当时王律师有反对吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf42df6fb62c40bcb3ee6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe199f8c32077b0d936bd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf42df6fb62c40bcb3ee6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qeca32156480aa3185a32","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":733,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:38:48.074Z","text":"追加指控到同意没收","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeca32156480aa3185a32","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q97b5c792b572c7b87d65","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":734,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:38:54.332Z","text":"需要司法路径","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97b5c792b572c7b87d65","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qe5f9d2a5363425c5d0a9","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":735,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T06:39:03.602Z","text":"发了动议 说不同意追加指控","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe199f8c32077b0d936bd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5f9d2a5363425c5d0a9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe199f8c32077b0d936bd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q1a6ac7e98e039f056b6b","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":736,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T06:39:10.919Z","text":"但也没说没收的事 默认了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a6ac7e98e039f056b6b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q2d4dcb8207ad2a0bc3ba","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":737,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:39:24.203Z","text":"王同意没收是文件几","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d4dcb8207ad2a0bc3ba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qb4f66a16b1f17c17424e","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":738,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T06:39:57.437Z","text":"记不得 文件我好像发过","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2d4dcb8207ad2a0bc3ba","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4f66a16b1f17c17424e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d4dcb8207ad2a0bc3ba","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q93de9f31a0a5285b771f","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":739,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:40:16.377Z","text":"我觉得这里有大搞头","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb4f66a16b1f17c17424e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93de9f31a0a5285b771f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4f66a16b1f17c17424e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q791b4c8d629441cb7443","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":740,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T06:43:01.008Z","text":"除了这个群 其他地方没有提没收这个事","edited":false,"reply_to":"q93de9f31a0a5285b771f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q791b4c8d629441cb7443","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93de9f31a0a5285b771f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q92664931608949237756","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":741,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T06:43:32.912Z","text":"只扯那些钱 不应该算郭头上 然后骂检方是Ccp","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q92664931608949237756","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qe63b0f0596071c5a8732","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":742,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T06:43:46.331Z","text":"借刀杀人呗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe63b0f0596071c5a8732","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q686317c3ae522e2f8753","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":743,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:43:55.509Z","text":"确切的说这是你开的课题😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q791b4c8d629441cb7443","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q686317c3ae522e2f8753","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q791b4c8d629441cb7443","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qc67f7a981f419fb62bba","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":744,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T06:44:50.242Z","text":"也不是 确实是那帮人帮了倒忙","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc67f7a981f419fb62bba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q46fd111ded1340301adb","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":745,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T06:45:02.599Z","text":"类似小羊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46fd111ded1340301adb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q0657ca8d87a537cac70b","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":746,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T06:45:35.552Z","text":"王认罪 还能当英雄 这不就邪门了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0657ca8d87a537cac70b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q4701de682e8b6d89bb13","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":747,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T06:46:36.264Z","text":"王案没收 青联盟推表格去当受害者 同意赦免\n这不是很奇怪吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4701de682e8b6d89bb13","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q33e381db9a7cf5564bcd","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":748,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T06:54:22.542Z","text":"王案那个追加起诉 感觉就像先买票 再上车","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q33e381db9a7cf5564bcd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q79c4ce95e1bdc93e4178","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":749,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:54:34.001Z","text":"3️⃣ 和郭文贵“连带责任”\n\n文件明确写了：\n\n👉 她和\nMiles Guo（郭文贵）\n\n是 jointly and severally liable（连带责任）\n\n意思就是：\n    •    政府可以向她要全部\n    •    也可以向郭文贵要全部\n    •    谁能拿到钱就从谁那拿","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79c4ce95e1bdc93e4178","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qcb6ddde3a25edb42e4bb","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":750,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-04-21T06:54:44.847Z","text":"是，解放军特务学校出来的，跟长岛哥是校友。这一点就够了，我工作了才意识到换职业很难的，大部分人都是顺着干下来的。大老王认为王的认罪是个分水岭，从那之后对郭案失去信心。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q51c4885d4e5501ce52e9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb6ddde3a25edb42e4bb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51c4885d4e5501ce52e9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q987e771fb83161dba962","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":751,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T06:55:25.899Z","text":"这个我也有预感 王认罪后 确实是分水岭","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcb6ddde3a25edb42e4bb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q987e771fb83161dba962","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb6ddde3a25edb42e4bb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qee1caf9b85d775c0fca4","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":752,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T06:56:29.443Z","text":"大老王不是说，王替郭认罪了，郭一定会无罪释放吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcb6ddde3a25edb42e4bb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee1caf9b85d775c0fca4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb6ddde3a25edb42e4bb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q85cf4702bffc848e342f","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":753,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T06:56:45.317Z","text":"反话啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qee1caf9b85d775c0fca4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85cf4702bffc848e342f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee1caf9b85d775c0fca4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q161768fb8b23d420fc2c","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":754,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T06:57:34.233Z","text":"我就看过他那一期，郭陪审团裁定之前x上都是宣传这个，他说王替郭顶罪，后来再也不看他视频了😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q161768fb8b23d420fc2c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q0d5f447b9eeb996f50d2","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":755,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:57:46.518Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":"q9b5b3abcf706bbe141b0","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d5f447b9eeb996f50d2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q0f6e201c1cee841154b7","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":756,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-04-21T06:58:19.788Z","text":"我记得有次直播大老王跟弹幕闲聊，他沉吟半晌说可是王燕萍也认罪了。那个神情不是平时扯淡那种，明显是恢复到了国内那种话直说半句很严肃的状态","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f6e201c1cee841154b7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q510ad18ec85ba24a369f","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":757,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T06:58:48.564Z","text":"这是高人 明白人 看破不说破","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0f6e201c1cee841154b7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q510ad18ec85ba24a369f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f6e201c1cee841154b7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qbbd28948181dae0dad0a","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":758,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T06:59:50.569Z","text":"还是刚刚说的那句\n她认没收 范围涵盖所有冻结资产 超出她涉及的范围\n随后补了起诉书 就合理了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0d5f447b9eeb996f50d2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbd28948181dae0dad0a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d5f447b9eeb996f50d2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qcfdd542b2817c6868d14","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":759,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-21T07:00:13.966Z","text":"夏凄东去郭判决的时候 听说不是兴高采烈的去的吗 他们认为郭会认罪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfdd542b2817c6868d14","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q62dbf2f219ce7dcaa78b","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":760,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-04-21T07:00:41.161Z","text":"我感觉七哥不会点破谁是特务。各界都有默契不点情报网，潜规则一样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62dbf2f219ce7dcaa78b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q56217070b6e22771fd95","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":761,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T07:00:46.016Z","text":"现在第三方强制令打郭的没收  完全相同的法律攻击点 当时王的没收也可以打 [删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":"qbbd28948181dae0dad0a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56217070b6e22771fd95","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbd28948181dae0dad0a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q12e3e76490e142e08125","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":762,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T07:01:00.332Z","text":"对啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q56217070b6e22771fd95","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12e3e76490e142e08125","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56217070b6e22771fd95","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qb39d74f85610dc536de4","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":763,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T07:01:09.055Z","text":"如果tony能早点上","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb39d74f85610dc536de4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q7c917acb1b6675e4cf0f","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":764,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T07:01:16.869Z","text":"估计就不会有这么多破事了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c917acb1b6675e4cf0f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qd412839cb28a30eef128","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":765,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T07:01:43.257Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 现在可以用王艳萍是特务打掉王的认罪","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd412839cb28a30eef128","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q42671c115b7de279c9d1","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":766,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T07:01:54.528Z","text":"青 Ava们这样往死里弄 就越界了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q62dbf2f219ce7dcaa78b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42671c115b7de279c9d1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62dbf2f219ce7dcaa78b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q4a827e30b55a2bdf06be","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":767,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-04-21T07:02:37.749Z","text":"我们没证据啊，除非有fbi通缉令那种","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a827e30b55a2bdf06be","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q2c62139a6ce0360b5e22","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":768,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T07:02:49.351Z","text":"不用证据","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4a827e30b55a2bdf06be","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c62139a6ce0360b5e22","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a827e30b55a2bdf06be","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q25d9224c71206c386ec7","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":769,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T07:02:56.106Z","text":"直接派个炮灰去二巡😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25d9224c71206c386ec7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qb552792a9c7b46db434a","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":770,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T07:03:03.147Z","text":"指控王雁平特务","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb552792a9c7b46db434a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qc8e6de52df31cd6fee70","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":771,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T07:03:10.325Z","text":"看看郭怎么说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8e6de52df31cd6fee70","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q6ec2481ccb44361d33fc","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":772,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T07:03:40.612Z","text":"猪贝贝都说过了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q25d9224c71206c386ec7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ec2481ccb44361d33fc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25d9224c71206c386ec7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qdc5bb383744e753ebc68","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":773,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-04-21T07:03:40.697Z","text":"肯定直接宪法修正案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc5bb383744e753ebc68","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q88c9dc00c436810b2e36","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":774,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T07:03:44.697Z","text":"可能被二巡打为滥诉 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