{"id":"batch-000103","number":103,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-04-19T03:57:44.813Z","date_end":"2026-04-22T03:18:58.449Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 103 (Apr 19, 2026 – Apr 22, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Batch 103 (April 19, 2026 to April 22, 2026) centers on whether Guo is treated as a stand-alone criminal matter or reinterpreted through alleged false-creditor and alter-ego tactics involving BVI and Gclub entities. Participants dispute Luc’s role and intent, whether bankruptcy coordination was a tactical lever for criminal process control, and whether late procedural moves—stay requests, filing windows, and second-review strategy—can materially alter sentencing or outcomes. They also contest forfeiture breadth, evidentiary reliability, and the meanings of 833, 853(n), and the 489 Judgment footpage S4. Community statements, not court findings.","guide_en":[{"title":"Narrative split: Guo case as a stand-alone conviction or a false-creditor-driven reconstruction","description":"Participants argue over whether the case should stay framed as the original Guo prosecution or be reconstructed through alleged false creditor-chain tactics tied to BVI and Gclub entities, with no shared interpretation reached. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q67be3404ccdb94cd9743","q8862097ae39e42301a56","q35b3574975fd03e5ef58","q637364958e23bec861cc"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q67be3404ccdb94cd9743","summary_en":"One participant said the discussion had only now entered what they considered the real Guo case. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q8862097ae39e42301a56","summary_en":"A participant asked whether Luc now realized he had been manipulated by the debtor. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q35b3574975fd03e5ef58","summary_en":"A participant argued that BVI and Gclub operations should be treated as interested parties, said the BVI ruling does not support a Guo alter-ego theory, and said any fake registered creditors should be challenged against beneficial owners instead. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q637364958e23bec861cc","summary_en":"Another participant contended Luc was misled and should not have accepted fake creditor registrations. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Luc positioning dispute: victim or co-conspirator, and whether conspiratorial boundary is met","description":"Participants contend that Luc may have been used as bait rather than a co-actor, while others describe a chain of conduct suggesting he crossed into knowing participation. The debate remains contested. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q35b3574975fd03e5ef58","q637364958e23bec861cc","qa8c2a9873461a39cada2","q6cdaa37b51fec6d10a9d"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q35b3574975fd03e5ef58","summary_en":"One view says Luc, BVI, and Gclub-related creditor filings should be viewed as a suspect false-creditor structure rather than a simple cooperation role. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q637364958e23bec861cc","summary_en":"Another participant reiterated that Luc was deceived and should not have accepted dubious creditor registration. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qa8c2a9873461a39cada2","summary_en":"A participant claimed Luc moved from accepting an earlier setup through filing pressure to a contempt finding, leaving him unable to reverse course and leaving the criminal case to absorb major blame. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q6cdaa37b51fec6d10a9d","summary_en":"Another participant asserted Luc accepted false creditor registration to frame Guo and deliberately achieve Guo’s detention, describing that as a completed mission. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Whether bankruptcy proceedings served criminal strategy: consolidation, stay, and linkage to the related case path","description":"Participants argue about whether bankruptcy consolidation was used as leverage to force appearances, or whether the move was not a real merger and instead aimed at procedural suspension. The practical procedural route remains disputed. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q3a10fabc22cab733eb91","qa28f1c23a478949583f5","q6f83ab5bfff8dc5974a8","qde93ba2143bb6d3035c6"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q3a10fabc22cab733eb91","summary_en":"A participant claimed Guo requested bankruptcy consolidation to force Luc into court. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qa28f1c23a478949583f5","summary_en":"Another participant disputed that view, arguing it should not be treated as consolidation. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q6f83ab5bfff8dc5974a8","summary_en":"One participant characterized the filing posture as a stay-related move. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qde93ba2143bb6d3035c6","summary_en":"A further participant reinforced the same procedural framing with a brief statement indicating “suspension.” Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Late-April rhythm battle: stay, filing window, and the two-stage appellate sequence","description":"Participants contend over timing strategy before sentencing, including whether and how to request stay relief, whether fax submissions are still viable, and whether the final days should be used to pause sentence proceedings. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q054086e80378dd9d03d6","q56e68729743b2183a41d","q6a02db74c19e4405e147","q95f22077536994d237e5"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q054086e80378dd9d03d6","summary_en":"One participant said the stay motion was late and complained that a draft for the South District had only just been filed. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q56e68729743b2183a41d","summary_en":"A participant argued that with six days before sentencing, incomplete court uploads for third-party self-prosecutors violated procedural rules, and urged immediate notices to halt sentencing for those not yet in second-review status, while others were already applying there. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q6a02db74c19e4405e147","summary_en":"A participant proposed asking the Supreme Court directly for a stay. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q95f22077536994d237e5","summary_en":"Another participant said fax filing might still be possible in this context. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Wang Yaping plea text and whether it was meant to absorb liability for Guo","description":"Participants argue over what Wang’s plea indicates, including whether her admissions go beyond a narrow count set, whether forfeiture terms exceeded those admissions, and whether intent to frame Guo can be inferred. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qf23e63757f2c0b3ecca8","qf70bccbff92840c59fcc","q220fec8de4663d232537","q0def78ee7968bb5a0830"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qf23e63757f2c0b3ecca8","summary_en":"One participant bluntly claimed Wang sold out Guo. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf70bccbff92840c59fcc","summary_en":"A participant stated that Wang accepted guilt on two counts, while the forfeiture request was materially broader. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q220fec8de4663d232537","summary_en":"Another participant suggested her plea appeared to cover more than just the GTV matters. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q0def78ee7968bb5a0830","summary_en":"A participant said Wang’s admission of party membership alone does not prove intent, and argued that one must show deliberate framing of Guo to establish that claim. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Forfeiture and asset recovery become a turning point: crime-fund boundaries and limits on third-party claims","description":"Participants argue that forfeiture scope, settlement context, and civil-money-trail prerequisites could sharply shift economic exposure, while contending whether a third-party claimant can succeed without proving transfer or commingling. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q4f75e515a3afd55319fe","qaf24a72a72477301481d","qf1b3dba27c8020260e1e","q85ed11d6ecfa9ae8d9e5","q840f8e55600dd7c02ec0"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q4f75e515a3afd55319fe","summary_en":"One participant claimed the defendant denied GTV guilt because of a settlement with the SEC. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qaf24a72a72477301481d","summary_en":"Another participant argued that even without admitting GTV liability, the assets could still fall within forfeiture scope. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf1b3dba27c8020260e1e","summary_en":"A participant added that any GTV investment alone was presented as enough to support that forfeiture reach. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q85ed11d6ecfa9ae8d9e5","summary_en":"Another participant cited a 14亿 forfeiture figure, saying Guo did not plead while Wang pleaded and accepted forfeiture. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q840f8e55600dd7c02ec0","summary_en":"A participant argued the civil-ancillary track is separate and requires independent proof that funds were transferred or heavily commingled, or otherwise forfeiture would fail and assets should be restored. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Evidence frame disputes: alter ego, witness performance, and authenticity of court-records","description":"Participants dispute whether the evidentiary framing itself is sound, including alter-ego doctrine claims, witness credibility under alleged coercion, and whether trial recordings were authentic or selectively presented. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q5cdef3b5de3f2f3ed2e4","q35e9a2affc2108bd70e8","q6a2263fc909491176dfc","q60c7791ec5f26ef45113"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q5cdef3b5de3f2f3ed2e4","summary_en":"A participant raised the alter-ego theory as a key evidentiary framing point. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q35e9a2affc2108bd70e8","summary_en":"A participant claimed that Li Ya was allegedly pressured by Zhang to lie, describing her as a single parent under life-threat pressure and likely distressed during testimony. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q6a2263fc909491176dfc","summary_en":"Another participant said several witnesses appeared to perform for the jury, suggesting theatrical testimony rather than reliable evidence. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q60c7791ec5f26ef45113","summary_en":"A participant cited host commentary that the trial remarks in question came from trial audio playback, not live courtroom outbursts. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Communications and digital cash-flow chain: letters, MDC, phone contact, and digital banking gaps","description":"Participants contend over whether alleged letters, telecom contact, and digital banking references support a continuity of evidence or reveal unresolved gaps, including whether official certification was required for prison correspondence. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q45594e51761560eee783","qa0fd1b658c00b3c759e2","q61b6f048ee141305e794","q5c68ef49a0259f0326fe"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q45594e51761560eee783","summary_en":"One participant inferred that a letter written during sentencing about the case was a pretext and therefore likely false. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qa0fd1b658c00b3c759e2","summary_en":"Another participant countered that any such letter required MDC certification. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q61b6f048ee141305e794","summary_en":"A participant observed that prosecutor 833 had not raised digital bank matters, suggesting potential issues in the digital banking restraint basis. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q5c68ef49a0259f0326fe","summary_en":"A participant followed up by asking whether a mandatory order had been clearly addressed on that point. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Alliances, factions, and opinion-market narratives: support shifts against allegations of backstage operators","description":"Participants argue that public feud narratives and alliance messaging are themselves tactical, with claims that faction behavior in forums is performative and that support messaging may be used to reshape case perceptions. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q818160da648b801d726d","q3f9075b5e5fc73ef45f7","qdd9f368c58a1db45cf15","qca111958ed17693bf719","q6e9f8a4c4f4275b6c286"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q818160da648b801d726d","summary_en":"One participant argued that despite not denying Guo-authored correspondence, a supporter simultaneously claimed alliance backing for Guo, implying a deep link. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q3f9075b5e5fc73ef45f7","summary_en":"Another participant labeled that positioning as deceptive strategy. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qdd9f368c58a1db45cf15","summary_en":"A participant interpreted the behavior as aligning with the backers’ third-wave strategic interests. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qca111958ed17693bf719","summary_en":"Another participant reported a public argument between two online actors, described the clash as intra-factional and asked another user to intervene. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q6e9f8a4c4f4275b6c286","summary_en":"A participant suggested many such quarrels were for audience optics, noting they had been blocked/unblocked in a way consistent with visibility management. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Indictment text and procedural boundary conflict: version differences, supplemental charging, and procedural expansion","description":"Participants contend that discrepancies across charging documents and references to additional versions may signal procedural overreach, with disagreement about whether filings were properly established and what counts in the record control later arguments. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q2d4dcb8207ad2a0bc3ba","qb4f66a16b1f17c17424e","q3d379d1460ea2aa6bee5","qc3838b198176257b1970","q498bab2764a1b35fee44"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q2d4dcb8207ad2a0bc3ba","summary_en":"A participant asserted there was a specific document showing Wang’s consent to forfeiture. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qb4f66a16b1f17c17424e","summary_en":"Another participant could not confirm memory of that file and said it was likely circulated before. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q3d379d1460ea2aa6bee5","summary_en":"A further participant introduced a claim that a ten-percent point in the materials was especially significant. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qc3838b198176257b1970","summary_en":"Another participant speculated the cited version was likely the second or third indictment iteration approved by a grand jury. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q498bab2764a1b35fee44","summary_en":"A participant referenced the 489 judgment footpage S4 as part of that procedural comparison. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Third-party litigation and sentencing reversibility: scope of 2255/33 and post-conviction limits","description":"Participants argue about who can challenge outcomes after conviction, contrasting defendant-only reversal channels with third-party limits to protecting proprietary interests and immediate litigation remedies before sentencing. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q9d5ad34363f279baa4cc","qc543c9b661edbee18e94","q513dd79bf3a99741ad08","q75de7076b8d763fd7add"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q9d5ad34363f279baa4cc","summary_en":"A participant stated that after conviction, reversal is mainly via 2255 or 33 mechanisms used by the defendant. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qc543c9b661edbee18e94","summary_en":"Another participant argued the prosecution claim is difficult for the defendant to overturn, though third parties may still challenge it. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q513dd79bf3a99741ad08","summary_en":"A participant insisted third parties can only preserve and defend their own interests. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q75de7076b8d763fd7add","summary_en":"Another participant said private prosecutors not yet in second-review could ask the South District to suspend sentencing, while those already in second-review had already sought that relief. Community statements, not court findings."}]}],"summary":"讨论首先在叙事起点上分裂：有人将郭案转向“虚假债权链”，有人坚持按既有案件本体展开；围绕luc是否套入骗局、是否参与共谋，及其与检方关系长期争议。程序路径是次级焦点却更激烈，参与者对破产与刑事衔接、起诉书版本、是否可在无CERT下申请stay、4/27量刑前最后提交窗、二巡与最高法院路线等意见不一。量刑与没收上，围绕认罪文本是否受压迫、没收范围、资产归属与第三方主张缺口持续争论。证据层面反复质疑alter ego、证人可信度、通信和庭审记录完整性；外部传播与平台账号来源亦被纳入推演但多停留在待核查。整体来看，争议核心集中在“程序正当性是否足以改变实质判断”与“责任边界是否可重定”。","guide":[{"title":"叙事起点分裂：郭案是单案定罪，还是“虚假债权驱动”重构","message_ids":["q67be3404ccdb94cd9743","q8862097ae39e42301a56","q35b3574975fd03e5ef58","q637364958e23bec861cc"]},{"title":"Luc定位争议：受害者还是参与共谋？同谋边界是否成立","message_ids":["q35b3574975fd03e5ef58","q637364958e23bec861cc","qa8c2a9873461a39cada2","q6cdaa37b51fec6d10a9d"]},{"title":"破产程序是否服务于刑事战术：并案、暂缓与后续“王案”衔接","message_ids":["q3a10fabc22cab733eb91","qa28f1c23a478949583f5","q6f83ab5bfff8dc5974a8","qde93ba2143bb6d3035c6"]},{"title":"4月末时点下的节奏斗争：stay、提交窗与二巡/二步走路径","message_ids":["q054086e80378dd9d03d6","q56e68729743b2183a41d","q6a02db74c19e4405e147","q95f22077536994d237e5"]},{"title":"王艳萍认罪文本与“替代郭背锅”并未定论","message_ids":["qf23e63757f2c0b3ecca8","qf70bccbff92840c59fcc","q220fec8de4663d232537","q0def78ee7968bb5a0830"]},{"title":"没收与财产追缴成为转折：犯罪资金边界与第三方主张受限","message_ids":["q4f75e515a3afd55319fe","qaf24a72a72477301481d","qf1b3dba27c8020260e1e","q85ed11d6ecfa9ae8d9e5","q840f8e55600dd7c02ec0"]},{"title":"证据口径反复拉扯：alter 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enterprise ）是被告的替代自我或者资金完全由被告支配，否则就不能没收。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35e016d37cff0c930a88","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q8943e2edec1436ecd60b","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":609,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T05:27:28.452Z","text":"就算你第三方有证据，你也只能记录，被告想推翻陪审团，就需要上诉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8943e2edec1436ecd60b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q7691c42f7f4ee1d61c62","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":610,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-21T05:28:06.363Z","text":"定罪了给被告判刑是自动的，但说定罪了就可以没收，那不是自动的，这就是853n条款存在的原因。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0776af905008e13d30a3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7691c42f7f4ee1d61c62","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0776af905008e13d30a3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qcd6e91761fd05151c6a0","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":611,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T05:28:46.017Z","text":"没收有两种：（1）被告控制的资产；（2）犯罪资产","edited":false,"reply_to":"q35e016d37cff0c930a88","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd6e91761fd05151c6a0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35e016d37cff0c930a88","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q5afdfecda505998b1295","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":612,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-21T05:28:51.632Z","text":"不同意了就走民事附属程序，把钱到底属于谁捋清楚再没收。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9111d7a7510b6a78372d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5afdfecda505998b1295","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9111d7a7510b6a78372d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qcadaa8b65acbc7d618fd","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":613,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-21T05:29:28.972Z","text":"第一项可以没收，第二项可以扯皮。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcd6e91761fd05151c6a0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcadaa8b65acbc7d618fd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd6e91761fd05151c6a0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q914790b62bc638e9f67e","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":614,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-21T05:29:45.975Z","text":"我们目前就是在就第二项扯皮。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q914790b62bc638e9f67e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qab6a15602d667a8766d6","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":615,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T05:30:18.256Z","text":"853n需要你证明你的资产和犯罪无关，你对资产的所有权高于被告","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7691c42f7f4ee1d61c62","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab6a15602d667a8766d6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7691c42f7f4ee1d61c62","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q699f33eb4790453c5563","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":616,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-21T05:30:41.332Z","text":"只是被法官给压制了，应该是10月11号就应该开听证来把钱的问题谈清楚。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q699f33eb4790453c5563","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q77948ffb9eed4524bee1","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":617,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-21T05:32:28.232Z","text":"我们就是要主张啊，但是美国政府就是说不允许我们主张，法官也表明了态度不允许主张，您为何表现得觉得它们这么主张有合理性。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qab6a15602d667a8766d6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77948ffb9eed4524bee1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab6a15602d667a8766d6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q6713dace49de324d368a","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":618,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T05:32:41.512Z","text":"现在的问题是，这些钱已经是犯罪资金了，853n想赢几乎不可能","edited":false,"reply_to":"qab6a15602d667a8766d6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6713dace49de324d368a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab6a15602d667a8766d6","reply_label":"查看被回复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替代 直接赔偿","edited":false,"reply_to":"q699f33eb4790453c5563","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3bc99c5fe0e1f2b2ff53","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q699f33eb4790453c5563","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q8ae1be23174f1dd74ab7","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":628,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T05:38:29.520Z","text":"郭美自己都不知道公司有什么资产，而且承认代持","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ae1be23174f1dd74ab7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qe9b5531f53cf5c1c29d0","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":629,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T05:38:37.709Z","text":"你说还怎么赢？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9b5531f53cf5c1c29d0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q9cea9cef79fa6b142244","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":630,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-21T05:39:08.205Z","text":"我看了你们发的摘要，律师一上来就是说不适用简易判决，应该听证后再判决。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb3c675ada06392aecb3c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9cea9cef79fa6b142244","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb3c675ada06392aecb3c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q095e28452f57959f2fd3","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":631,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T05:39:08.762Z","text":"853n不上传确实是程序问题","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2a82a7b750cdbd7a6ad5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q095e28452f57959f2fd3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a82a7b750cdbd7a6ad5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q8d7d68b151f1b11cb07f","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":632,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T05:40:02.662Z","text":"不是，那根本不是重点","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9cea9cef79fa6b142244","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d7d68b151f1b11cb07f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9cea9cef79fa6b142244","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q69cd3da27034e1c85433","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":633,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-21T05:41:15.441Z","text":"如果是这样，那属于坑爹了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe9b5531f53cf5c1c29d0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69cd3da27034e1c85433","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9b5531f53cf5c1c29d0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qeed44e8e51477f22b0dc","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":634,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T05:41:30.977Z","text":"指不定 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alter ego就松动了\n不然，为嘛青们那么紧张，要召集债权人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qedb89393eec7eb697d95","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q177b245cb0ac0ba4652d","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":640,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-21T05:44:06.499Z","text":"夏凄东 那个推特言论： 他不答应谁也拿不到钱 是另一个alter ego 的反驳","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q177b245cb0ac0ba4652d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q494589a16eacc1c0b905","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":641,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T05:45:02.842Z","text":"她只需要反对alter 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我想用这个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d5296fd734a1df3bd26","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q085bdc083b88a4e8a504","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":643,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-21T05:45:26.637Z","text":"夏凄东的截图","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q085bdc083b88a4e8a504","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q4fb893ac3e5bf2d0aa62","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":644,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T05:45:33.095Z","text":"郭强的案子是因为jurisdiction","edited":false,"reply_to":"q494589a16eacc1c0b905","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4fb893ac3e5bf2d0aa62","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q494589a16eacc1c0b905","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qb1b300a0bd76df7b4a6a","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":645,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T05:45:50.683Z","text":"洗脚所也是bvi","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1b300a0bd76df7b4a6a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qaf5eacc09a471e801394","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":646,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T05:46:00.941Z","text":"管辖地不是主要 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他没法说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ba6d2c35b0a3fcde203","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qc730c88f7a89b79e5b64","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":651,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T05:48:59.570Z","text":"这个不是定罪的标准 但是是量刑的标准","edited":false,"reply_to":"q35e016d37cff0c930a88","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc730c88f7a89b79e5b64","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35e016d37cff0c930a88","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q6e73353441a6f52fa82c","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":652,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T05:50:06.009Z","text":"现在问题是这样 刑事案的alter ego是如何运用在定罪上的 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给南区贴过去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa42a815ff53123734f5e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q0b1d10f33b07196dd75e","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":699,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:21:08.488Z","text":"说王艳萍是特务的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b1d10f33b07196dd75e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q5a65217cc9570954c9e3","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":700,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T06:21:34.811Z","text":"因为Tony的证据，现在只要是在中国的，有家人在中国的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa42a815ff53123734f5e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a65217cc9570954c9e3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa42a815ff53123734f5e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q4431401eda7902391c95","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":701,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:21:39.444Z","text":"这么做的好处是 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就是看郭接不接","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4431401eda7902391c95","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qcaa35eedd094c1cf0923","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":702,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T06:21:55.235Z","text":"和中国有关系的证人证词都不可靠","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcaa35eedd094c1cf0923","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qf0560a9323c108044aa9","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":703,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:21:59.687Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcaa35eedd094c1cf0923","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0560a9323c108044aa9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcaa35eedd094c1cf0923","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q20e98a1a0a805e4da691","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":704,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:22:02.266Z","text":"都是有问题的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20e98a1a0a805e4da691","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q8d27eea048ef9e2b33d1","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":705,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T06:22:26.713Z","text":"王是特务没有任何证据支持","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4431401eda7902391c95","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d27eea048ef9e2b33d1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4431401eda7902391c95","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q60fc334744a9e07abacd","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":706,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:22:39.370Z","text":"但可以开启这个话题让郭接","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8d27eea048ef9e2b33d1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60fc334744a9e07abacd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d27eea048ef9e2b33d1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q6bccb52975199ba0b138","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":707,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T06:22:42.858Z","text":"你只能说，因为她有家人在中国，可能证词不可靠","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6bccb52975199ba0b138","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q8ea0a4283495df7e4db0","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":708,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:22:48.278Z","text":"如果郭真的有她特务编号呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ea0a4283495df7e4db0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q7b1ffe4984b591bb8a52","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":709,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:22:56.246Z","text":"所以我说了 这是豪赌","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b1ffe4984b591bb8a52","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q14e462bc5196ab5d9c53","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":710,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:23:06.419Z","text":"比733赌的更大","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14e462bc5196ab5d9c53","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q25a166273b2480f63c81","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":711,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:23:35.734Z","text":"这个任务只能派[删节：成员身份]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25a166273b2480f63c81","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q99cf91bcda62fda6359a","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":712,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T06:23:47.651Z","text":"郭有什么，跟你有什么关系","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8ea0a4283495df7e4db0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99cf91bcda62fda6359a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ea0a4283495df7e4db0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qf781ab7bda5c29da0fce","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":713,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:23:54.561Z","text":"没关系","edited":false,"reply_to":"q99cf91bcda62fda6359a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf781ab7bda5c29da0fce","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99cf91bcda62fda6359a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q8e53b7ab849e509a74a7","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":714,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T06:23:56.694Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]吓死了，好不好","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e53b7ab849e509a74a7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q94be96657f48ed7ed975","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":715,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:24:13.445Z","text":"但这个打法创造了一个机会","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q94be96657f48ed7ed975","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qb2940b572987be6fe4ad","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":716,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:24:24.122Z","text":"如果郭不接 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我农场借款就是被他截走了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa87ada8cefd054c9f232","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q00774a05ace74b233985","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":725,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:28:24.550Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 来论证王艳萍同意没收的合法性  她认了两个罪 是否有权同意可以没收到那些东西","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00774a05ace74b233985","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qa66548ba889072c32bbb","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":726,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:29:28.226Z","text":"你们谁去那里买点消息","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa66548ba889072c32bbb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q1f03cf608a3d98cfe266","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":727,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:29:32.594Z","text":"王艳萍到底是不是特务😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f03cf608a3d98cfe266","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q9bceeb3ba33a0a223f3d","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":728,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-21T06:30:05.207Z","text":"blackrose 怎么说？ 好久没看了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9bceeb3ba33a0a223f3d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q21bfb5349b44d92c0bcf","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":729,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T06:30:50.544Z","text":"Blackrose这个帐号到底是怎么回事儿","edited":false,"reply_to":"q77d5485e62a58608c670","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21bfb5349b44d92c0bcf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q76f93253eeb174dc0552","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":730,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T06:35:00.674Z","text":"Blackrose眼里，所有人都是特务","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9bceeb3ba33a0a223f3d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76f93253eeb174dc0552","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9bceeb3ba33a0a223f3d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qf42df6fb62c40bcb3ee6","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":731,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T06:36:42.194Z","text":"两个罪，只有Saraca转款1亿\n其他的追加指控，她沾不上边","edited":false,"reply_to":"q00774a05ace74b233985","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf42df6fb62c40bcb3ee6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00774a05ace74b233985","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qe199f8c32077b0d936bd","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":732,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:38:30.126Z","text":"当时王律师有反对吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf42df6fb62c40bcb3ee6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe199f8c32077b0d936bd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf42df6fb62c40bcb3ee6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qeca32156480aa3185a32","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":733,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:38:48.074Z","text":"追加指控到同意没收","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeca32156480aa3185a32","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q97b5c792b572c7b87d65","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":734,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:38:54.332Z","text":"需要司法路径","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97b5c792b572c7b87d65","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qe5f9d2a5363425c5d0a9","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":735,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T06:39:03.602Z","text":"发了动议 说不同意追加指控","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe199f8c32077b0d936bd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5f9d2a5363425c5d0a9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe199f8c32077b0d936bd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q1a6ac7e98e039f056b6b","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":736,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T06:39:10.919Z","text":"但也没说没收的事 默认了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a6ac7e98e039f056b6b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q2d4dcb8207ad2a0bc3ba","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":737,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:39:24.203Z","text":"王同意没收是文件几","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d4dcb8207ad2a0bc3ba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qb4f66a16b1f17c17424e","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":738,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T06:39:57.437Z","text":"记不得 文件我好像发过","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2d4dcb8207ad2a0bc3ba","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4f66a16b1f17c17424e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d4dcb8207ad2a0bc3ba","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q93de9f31a0a5285b771f","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":739,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:40:16.377Z","text":"我觉得这里有大搞头","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb4f66a16b1f17c17424e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93de9f31a0a5285b771f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4f66a16b1f17c17424e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q791b4c8d629441cb7443","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":740,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T06:43:01.008Z","text":"除了这个群 其他地方没有提没收这个事","edited":false,"reply_to":"q93de9f31a0a5285b771f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q791b4c8d629441cb7443","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93de9f31a0a5285b771f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q92664931608949237756","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":741,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T06:43:32.912Z","text":"只扯那些钱 不应该算郭头上 然后骂检方是Ccp","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q92664931608949237756","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qe63b0f0596071c5a8732","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":742,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T06:43:46.331Z","text":"借刀杀人呗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe63b0f0596071c5a8732","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q686317c3ae522e2f8753","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":743,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:43:55.509Z","text":"确切的说这是你开的课题😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q791b4c8d629441cb7443","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q686317c3ae522e2f8753","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q791b4c8d629441cb7443","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qc67f7a981f419fb62bba","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":744,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T06:44:50.242Z","text":"也不是 确实是那帮人帮了倒忙","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc67f7a981f419fb62bba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q46fd111ded1340301adb","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":745,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T06:45:02.599Z","text":"类似小羊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46fd111ded1340301adb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q0657ca8d87a537cac70b","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":746,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T06:45:35.552Z","text":"王认罪 还能当英雄 这不就邪门了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0657ca8d87a537cac70b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q4701de682e8b6d89bb13","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":747,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T06:46:36.264Z","text":"王案没收 青联盟推表格去当受害者 同意赦免\n这不是很奇怪吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4701de682e8b6d89bb13","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q33e381db9a7cf5564bcd","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":748,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T06:54:22.542Z","text":"王案那个追加起诉 感觉就像先买票 再上车","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q33e381db9a7cf5564bcd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q79c4ce95e1bdc93e4178","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":749,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:54:34.001Z","text":"3️⃣ 和郭文贵“连带责任”\n\n文件明确写了：\n\n👉 她和\nMiles Guo（郭文贵）\n\n是 jointly and severally liable（连带责任）\n\n意思就是：\n    •    政府可以向她要全部\n    •    也可以向郭文贵要全部\n    •    谁能拿到钱就从谁那拿","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79c4ce95e1bdc93e4178","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qcb6ddde3a25edb42e4bb","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":750,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-04-21T06:54:44.847Z","text":"是，解放军特务学校出来的，跟长岛哥是校友。这一点就够了，我工作了才意识到换职业很难的，大部分人都是顺着干下来的。大老王认为王的认罪是个分水岭，从那之后对郭案失去信心。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q51c4885d4e5501ce52e9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb6ddde3a25edb42e4bb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51c4885d4e5501ce52e9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q987e771fb83161dba962","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":751,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T06:55:25.899Z","text":"这个我也有预感 王认罪后 确实是分水岭","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcb6ddde3a25edb42e4bb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q987e771fb83161dba962","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb6ddde3a25edb42e4bb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qee1caf9b85d775c0fca4","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":752,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T06:56:29.443Z","text":"大老王不是说，王替郭认罪了，郭一定会无罪释放吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcb6ddde3a25edb42e4bb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee1caf9b85d775c0fca4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb6ddde3a25edb42e4bb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q85cf4702bffc848e342f","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":753,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T06:56:45.317Z","text":"反话啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qee1caf9b85d775c0fca4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85cf4702bffc848e342f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee1caf9b85d775c0fca4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q161768fb8b23d420fc2c","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":754,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T06:57:34.233Z","text":"我就看过他那一期，郭陪审团裁定之前x上都是宣传这个，他说王替郭顶罪，后来再也不看他视频了😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q161768fb8b23d420fc2c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q0d5f447b9eeb996f50d2","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":755,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T06:57:46.518Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":"q9b5b3abcf706bbe141b0","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d5f447b9eeb996f50d2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q0f6e201c1cee841154b7","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":756,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-04-21T06:58:19.788Z","text":"我记得有次直播大老王跟弹幕闲聊，他沉吟半晌说可是王燕萍也认罪了。那个神情不是平时扯淡那种，明显是恢复到了国内那种话直说半句很严肃的状态","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f6e201c1cee841154b7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q510ad18ec85ba24a369f","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":757,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T06:58:48.564Z","text":"这是高人 明白人 看破不说破","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0f6e201c1cee841154b7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q510ad18ec85ba24a369f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f6e201c1cee841154b7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qbbd28948181dae0dad0a","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":758,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T06:59:50.569Z","text":"还是刚刚说的那句\n她认没收 范围涵盖所有冻结资产 超出她涉及的范围\n随后补了起诉书 就合理了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0d5f447b9eeb996f50d2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbd28948181dae0dad0a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d5f447b9eeb996f50d2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qcfdd542b2817c6868d14","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":759,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-21T07:00:13.966Z","text":"夏凄东去郭判决的时候 听说不是兴高采烈的去的吗 他们认为郭会认罪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfdd542b2817c6868d14","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q62dbf2f219ce7dcaa78b","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":760,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-04-21T07:00:41.161Z","text":"我感觉七哥不会点破谁是特务。各界都有默契不点情报网，潜规则一样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62dbf2f219ce7dcaa78b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q56217070b6e22771fd95","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":761,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T07:00:46.016Z","text":"现在第三方强制令打郭的没收  完全相同的法律攻击点 当时王的没收也可以打 [删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":"qbbd28948181dae0dad0a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56217070b6e22771fd95","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbd28948181dae0dad0a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q12e3e76490e142e08125","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":762,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T07:01:00.332Z","text":"对啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q56217070b6e22771fd95","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12e3e76490e142e08125","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56217070b6e22771fd95","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qb39d74f85610dc536de4","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":763,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T07:01:09.055Z","text":"如果tony能早点上","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb39d74f85610dc536de4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q7c917acb1b6675e4cf0f","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":764,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T07:01:16.869Z","text":"估计就不会有这么多破事了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c917acb1b6675e4cf0f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qd412839cb28a30eef128","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":765,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T07:01:43.257Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 现在可以用王艳萍是特务打掉王的认罪","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd412839cb28a30eef128","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q42671c115b7de279c9d1","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":766,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-21T07:01:54.528Z","text":"青 Ava们这样往死里弄 就越界了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q62dbf2f219ce7dcaa78b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42671c115b7de279c9d1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62dbf2f219ce7dcaa78b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q4a827e30b55a2bdf06be","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":767,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-04-21T07:02:37.749Z","text":"我们没证据啊，除非有fbi通缉令那种","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a827e30b55a2bdf06be","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q2c62139a6ce0360b5e22","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":768,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T07:02:49.351Z","text":"不用证据","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4a827e30b55a2bdf06be","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c62139a6ce0360b5e22","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a827e30b55a2bdf06be","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q25d9224c71206c386ec7","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":769,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T07:02:56.106Z","text":"直接派个炮灰去二巡😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25d9224c71206c386ec7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qb552792a9c7b46db434a","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":770,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T07:03:03.147Z","text":"指控王雁平特务","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb552792a9c7b46db434a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qc8e6de52df31cd6fee70","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":771,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T07:03:10.325Z","text":"看看郭怎么说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8e6de52df31cd6fee70","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q6ec2481ccb44361d33fc","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":772,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-21T07:03:40.612Z","text":"猪贝贝都说过了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q25d9224c71206c386ec7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ec2481ccb44361d33fc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25d9224c71206c386ec7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"qdc5bb383744e753ebc68","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":773,"speaker":"nev***","date":"2026-04-21T07:03:40.697Z","text":"肯定直接宪法修正案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc5bb383744e753ebc68","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000103"},{"id":"q88c9dc00c436810b2e36","batch_id":"batch-000103","seq":774,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-21T07:03:44.697Z","text":"可能被二巡打为滥诉 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