{"id":"batch-000104","number":104,"revision":1,"date_start":"2026-04-22T03:19:39.284Z","date_end":"2026-04-24T22:11:31.092Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 104 (Apr 22, 2026 – Apr 24, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. Discussions begin by examining message authenticity, signatures, and identities before shifting toward procedural disputes, focusing on Second Circuit filings, requests to stay sentencing in 1:23-cr-00118-AT, Form 1080 compliance, certificates of service, and the Crime Victims' Rights Act seventy-two-hour statutory deadline. Participants debate forfeiture boundaries across the G enterprise, bankruptcy claims, and financial tracing, while disputing alleged judicial or prosecutorial bias and online group labeling without reaching any consensus.","guide_en":[{"title":"Authenticity and Verification: Scrutinizing Signatures, Information Sources, and Zhu Beibei Narratives","description":"Participants debate whether individuals were misled by organizations and scrutinize the authenticity of specific signatures and public commentary.","message_ids":["q7daf2add8fb3821ec610","qc1b565f847be20cd9913","qea881353e500f85d1d94"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q7daf2add8fb3821ec610","summary_en":"joh*** contends that an individual was misled by the organization and that her presentencing plea letter to the judge appeared to convey despair."},{"message_id":"qc1b565f847be20cd9913","summary_en":"him*** states that Zhu Beibei also alleged that Guo's signature on a letter supporting Diddy was fraudulent."},{"message_id":"qea881353e500f85d1d94","summary_en":"him*** contends that this individual represents a judicial counterpart to Azhe."}]},{"title":"Victim Standing and Procedural Boundaries: Disputes Over Addressing the Court and Automatic CVRA Empowerment","description":"Participants dispute the legal framework governing victim participation and question the scope of addressing court proceedings.","message_ids":["q50c795eb9f8a32cc861f","qbc1a0ed9799f500644f7"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q50c795eb9f8a32cc861f","summary_en":"kir*** contends that the conventional victim-defendant legal model no longer fits and questions why a victim can launch broad verbal attacks beyond the defendant."},{"message_id":"qbc1a0ed9799f500644f7","summary_en":"ntp*** clarifies that the speaker was referring to the Southern District of New York email address for pro se submissions."}]},{"title":"Second Circuit and Sentencing Conflicts: Deferring Sentencing in 1:23-CR-118, Form 1080, and Pro Se Filing 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instruction."},{"message_id":"q6f289385debf0d31e8b5","summary_en":"joh*** alleges that an online user maintains alternate accounts in the group to steer public opinion using leaked screenshots."},{"message_id":"qb35d456b997287ada666","summary_en":"kir*** notes that another complicating factor is that nobody knows what Brother Luosi is doing."}]},{"title":"Allegations of Judicial and Prosecutorial Bias: Debating Courtroom Staging Versus Verifiable Procedure","description":"Participants debate whether the prosecution and court acted with bias and discuss relying on verifiable procedural records to counter the rulings.","message_ids":["q9d71429131da6d46c89e","qf3be6781433507e4284d","q3f5538d0d248dbffa56c"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q9d71429131da6d46c89e","summary_en":"joh*** argues that prosecutors, the trustee, and the judge operated within a contrived framework to make the proceedings appear legally justified."},{"message_id":"qf3be6781433507e4284d","summary_en":"him*** contends that substantive arguments are futile and that only procedural defects, ineffective assistance of counsel, and judicial bias remain viable issues."},{"message_id":"q3f5538d0d248dbffa56c","summary_en":"kir*** contends that the Second Circuit retains judicial discretion in these matters."}]},{"title":"Strategic Pivots: Record Preservation, Renewed Objections, and Appellate Pathways","description":"Participants discuss strategic legal avenues, debating whether to preserve objections in the Second Circuit before seeking higher appellate review.","message_ids":["q5b24c162fcf72513a264","q29c8fc09441c2f29c274"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q5b24c162fcf72513a264","summary_en":"kir*** states an intention to have a summary prepared by next Friday."},{"message_id":"q29c8fc09441c2f29c274","summary_en":"roy*** urges experienced group members to promptly submit comprehensive details and procedural flaws to the Second Circuit directly or through parties with pending appeals."}]},{"title":"Timelines and 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怕了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe6b33b574564d055a933","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc939f143ebb4cbbedd5f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe6b33b574564d055a933","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qcf78dff6aded9171d8df","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":603,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-23T21:52:37.220Z","text":"灭爆联盟会做什么？！各方面的人接下来会有什么动作！太好玩了。\n这比追球赛精彩多了。😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf78dff6aded9171d8df","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q365e6a4b97cd3386af31","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":604,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-23T21:53:58.555Z","text":"你看 他们都懵逼了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcf78dff6aded9171d8df","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q365e6a4b97cd3386af31","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf78dff6aded9171d8df","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q75ee1b2294b215c58227","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":605,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-23T21:54:01.561Z","text":"没人庆祝","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q75ee1b2294b215c58227","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q5fac100073f073005c8f","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":606,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-04-23T21:54:28.888Z","text":"还没上二巡的快上啊","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5fac100073f073005c8f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q59b967be2cd97d69d553","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":607,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-04-23T21:55:28.145Z","text":"这个我没理解穿正装和实刑有联系？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf34ec3209992ab1049be","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59b967be2cd97d69d553","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qc007281e18bbaf534b6d","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":608,"speaker":"tan***","date":"2026-04-23T21:55:50.175Z","text":"当庭释放的可能，穿正装","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc007281e18bbaf534b6d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q2aa49eb2416137e62d34","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":609,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-23T21:56:18.920Z","text":"不是","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf34ec3209992ab1049be","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2aa49eb2416137e62d34","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q733bfe79ca9ea105f495","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":610,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-23T21:56:24.481Z","text":"量刑延期了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q733bfe79ca9ea105f495","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qda44f0a6dbd642e7c6ef","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":611,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-23T21:56:26.652Z","text":"所以没必要了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda44f0a6dbd642e7c6ef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qbd5578b135c524603130","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":612,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-04-23T21:57:09.664Z","text":"我也理解为延期到六月底了，所以批准四月27号穿正装就没必要了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbd5578b135c524603130","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qa87f556134c39ffa8c27","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":613,"speaker":"tan***","date":"2026-04-23T21:59:27.686Z","text":"是我理解错了，日期看错了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2aa49eb2416137e62d34","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa87f556134c39ffa8c27","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2aa49eb2416137e62d34","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q8434e8fa1dcb6f0e7888","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":614,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-23T22:01:39.850Z","text":"郭先生要申请保释才对！！！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8434e8fa1dcb6f0e7888","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qe315ac27d413857033b9","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":615,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-23T22:02:24.690Z","text":"两个月！一个人的生命里有几个两个月！","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe315ac27d413857033b9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q30d1d92eeed6b6dfb2cc","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":616,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-23T22:03:21.081Z","text":"我比较关心，黄老师的直播会怎么说？黄老师退隐山林的计划黄了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q365e6a4b97cd3386af31","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30d1d92eeed6b6dfb2cc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q365e6a4b97cd3386af31","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q3cc687835b05e7091255","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":617,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-23T22:03:30.166Z","text":"黄了呀！！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q30d1d92eeed6b6dfb2cc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3cc687835b05e7091255","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30d1d92eeed6b6dfb2cc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qc6780c59df9147ed5e87","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":618,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-04-23T22:04:24.398Z","text":"https://x.com/qiqi7877/status/2047436175657644436?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6780c59df9147ed5e87","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q674dd84493e0076b71fb","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":619,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-04-23T22:07:11.054Z","text":"他们看到这个消息该很难过吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0685ffb63c29467ec156","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q674dd84493e0076b71fb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q3338c245b333e0f0d2e0","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":620,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-04-23T22:11:42.429Z","text":"https://x.com/qiqi7877/status/2047437988939153422?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3338c245b333e0f0d2e0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qa63bddb2019b9ccb1288","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":621,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-04-23T22:20:46.569Z","text":"补上完整证据后，量刑也不可能了吧？是不是还剩下解决王雁平认罪的事？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa63bddb2019b9ccb1288","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q29c8fc09441c2f29c274","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":622,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-04-23T22:26:12.474Z","text":"所以群里几位特别懂的专家们一定要尽快把案情的所有细节，各种漏洞全部提交给二巡，不要漏掉任何一个细节，如果提交不了的可以让已经在二巡的提交吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29c8fc09441c2f29c274","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qb53d8738c1f9601db9f4","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":623,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-23T22:36:03.972Z","text":"郭不申请保释吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb53d8738c1f9601db9f4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q2e7aed42d96d2329d01c","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":624,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-23T22:36:10.328Z","text":"西装白准备了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e7aed42d96d2329d01c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q19957481749511bd5d76","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":625,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-23T22:36:44.840Z","text":"群里没人买机票吧？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19957481749511bd5d76","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q47fde17d428f610a6fd8","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":626,"speaker":"tan***","date":"2026-04-23T22:37:22.891Z","text":"这说明七哥及其辩护律师真的准备4月27日开庭量刑宣判了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47fde17d428f610a6fd8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q0d0cde32f32a65fc174a","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":627,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-23T22:37:49.759Z","text":"如果星期一早上宣布推迟，说不定真有人买机票了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d0cde32f32a65fc174a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q87df4974ecf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他节目里面读 我是这样写的 [删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd4010fc9581f56c06c5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q480e602ad7bddf28bfb1","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":636,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-04-23T23:10:22.776Z","text":"他看到郭延期了被领导批评没完成任务吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8add861e9da8307ccab8","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q480e602ad7bddf28bfb1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q0521c26af8389f629445","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":637,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-23T23:17:13.776Z","text":"我帮你把所有的东西放在一起，见下文：\n\n黄河边先生好 我经过瑞恩同志的授权 在这里写一下瑞恩同志在郭案 参与法律程序的过程。1: 瑞恩的投资，他在733号动议里面说了，和螺丝哥差不多 总共投资大概两万多美金。 2: 至于为什么要参与美国司法，瑞恩本人，他是以受害人介入，这一点要搞清楚，瑞恩在法庭上是被告的对立面。 所以砸郭团队一直把瑞恩打为蚂蚁帮，在司法上 是站不住的。 瑞恩参与法庭文件，原因是看到了螺丝哥在南区一系列动议505，507等，受到的启发，尤其是螺丝哥的679文件。 为什么之前法官把螺丝哥打为滥诉，要对他的动议进行排查，但679一上去，整个法庭 就没人理螺丝哥了？ 瑞恩经过研究发现原来 679 螺丝哥是用： 受害者权利法案 cvra 直接在法庭表达诉求 而这个渠道，是托雷斯法官在528order亲自给的：参与案件有cvra这个渠道 黄老师可以去看看528（或者586）命令。瑞恩对这个现象抓到了本质： 原来 用cvra 承认受害人 法官就不能再对当事人进行司法手段压制了 😂 这就是瑞恩参与司法行动的起心动念。 接着，瑞恩经过一系列的调查，发现检方和luc 在被告保释程序中，犯了极其严重的欺诈法庭的行为，瑞恩已经记录在南区法院733中。瑞恩的观点非常明白： 他虽然被骗钱了 不代表检方可以再骗一边他的钱 不代表luc可以违法抢他的钱。瑞恩认为，惩罚罪犯，应该用合法的方式，而用法外手段制裁罪犯，本身就是犯罪。 这就是为什么 瑞恩的头像 一直都是《死亡笔记》的夜神月。 这个角色，他得到了法外惩罚罪犯的权柄，最终他自己也走向了万劫不复的深渊中。 为什么《死亡笔记》是神作？他探讨了法外制裁给世界带来的和平，是否是真的和平？而美国司法，程序正义，也说明了这一点。 程序不合法，你被郭文贵骗了钱，就算检方通过remission还给你了，结果发现 程序不合法 案件推翻，你的钱是不是又要还回去？ 作为美国公民，不仅有被诈骗举报罪犯的权利，还有对司法的明显不公 表达意见的权利，这也是一种义务。 你们去想想 郭文贵骗了这么多钱，哪天没收程序开始，结果发现 程序不正义 案件推翻，你们不是白忙活吗？ 在惩罚罪犯过程中，必须不能用死亡笔记描写的法外形式，程序必须正义，瑞恩参与司法行动的这个目的，不仅为了他自己，也是为更广泛的受害者争取一个更加公平 公开的法庭程序，预防程序不正义导致之后案件被推翻的风险。 瑞恩，螺丝哥，和现在二巡的出庭证人，大多数 都是这个目的。并不是你们说的要帮郭文贵翻案。 当然，翻案是一个噱头，可以增加流量，但其本质，瑞恩的司法行动 就是在行使一个美国公民被赋予的基本权利和应尽的义务。 仅此而已。 感谢黄河边老师。祝大家在郭案中都能找到真正的自己。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdd4010fc9581f56c06c5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0521c26af8389f629445","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd4010fc9581f56c06c5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q6d261a0e80abc02ad927","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":638,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-23T23:19:43.457Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]己经无法混下去了。人品太差，没人喜欢。😂","edited":true,"reply_to":"q8add861e9da8307ccab8","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d261a0e80abc02ad927","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q1bb852ee22096d6bbe03","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":639,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-23T23:22:39.754Z","text":"瑞恩上面说的 这个案件是刚刚开始。\n\n过去3年都是检方Luc 及盗国贼/灭爆蛇燕子出手， 现在终于轮到郭先生能说话了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1bb852ee22096d6bbe03","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qb65bdbfcc9d06ea35c64","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":640,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-23T23:23:21.541Z","text":"或者说成千上万的第三方投资人开始要行动了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb65bdbfcc9d06ea35c64","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q29f8f602f36b4fba5a7c","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":641,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-23T23:30:43.596Z","text":"我让 AI 帮我分了下层次，就变成了如下版本：\n\n你这段材料本身逻辑是有的，但现在是一整块“口语流”，不利于阅读和传播。\n我帮你做一件事：不改内容、不改立场，只做结构重排 + 层次清晰化，让它看起来像一篇“有组织的说明文”。\n\n⸻\n\n✍️ 重排后的版本（分层清晰版）\n\n⸻\n\n一、基本情况说明\n\n黄河边先生好：\n\n我经过瑞恩同志的授权，在这里梳理一下他在郭案中参与法律程序的整体过程。\n\n首先是投资情况。\n瑞恩在其提交的733号动议中已经说明，其投资金额与螺丝哥大致相当，总计约两万多美元。\n\n其次是参与司法的身份问题。\n瑞恩是以受害人身份介入美国司法程序，这一点需要明确。在法庭上，他属于被告的对立面。因此，所谓“砸郭团队”将其定性为“蚂蚁帮”，在司法逻辑上是站不住的。\n\n⸻\n\n二、参与司法的起点\n\n瑞恩开始参与法庭文件，是受到螺丝哥在南区一系列动议（如505、507等）的启发，尤其是679号文件。\n\n这里有一个关键现象值得注意：\n\n为什么此前法官曾将螺丝哥视为滥诉，对其动议进行排查，但在679文件提交后，法院却不再对其采取类似措施？\n\n⸻\n\n三、关键发现：CVRA路径\n\n瑞恩经过研究发现，核心在于：\n\n👉 螺丝哥在679中采用的是\n《受害者权利法案》（CVRA）路径\n\n也就是说，他是以受害人身份，直接向法院表达诉求。\n\n而这个渠道，并非自创，而是：\n\n👉 由托雷斯法官在528号命令（或586号）中明确提供的合法路径\n\n因此：\n\n👉 一旦以CVRA确认受害人身份\n👉 法院在程序上就不能再轻易用传统方式对其进行压制\n\n这就是瑞恩抓住的“本质”。\n\n⸻\n\n四、进一步行动与核心观点\n\n在此基础上，瑞恩继续深入调查，认为：\n\n👉 检方及相关方（包括Luc）在被告保释程序中，存在严重的“欺诈法庭”行为\n👉 相关内容已记录于南区733号文件中\n\n瑞恩的立场非常明确：\n\n* 自己被骗钱 ≠ 检方可以再“骗一次”\n* 自己被骗钱 ≠ 任何人可以非法侵占其资产\n\n他强调：\n\n惩罚犯罪必须通过合法程序\n使用非法手段制裁犯罪，本身就是对法治的破坏\n\n⸻\n\n五、思想类比：为什么用“夜神月”\n\n瑞恩长期使用《死亡笔记》中“夜神月”作为头像，并非偶然。\n\n这个角色象征的是：\n\n👉 获得“法外制裁权力”的人\n👉 最终也走向毁灭\n\n《死亡笔记》探讨的问题是：\n\n用非法手段带来的“秩序”，是否是真正的正义？\n\n而美国司法体系强调的正是：\n\n👉 程序正义（Due Process）\n\n⸻\n\n六、程序正义的现实意义\n\n瑞恩提出一个非常现实的问题：\n\n如果：\n\n* 程序不合法\n* 即使资金被追回（例如通过remission）\n\n那么一旦案件被推翻：\n\n👉 这些钱是否仍可能被重新追索？\n\n⸻\n\n因此：\n\n👉 受害人不仅有举报犯罪的权利\n👉 也有对司法不公表达意见的权利（甚至是一种义务）\n\n⸻\n\n七、行动目的的澄清\n\n瑞恩参与司法行动的目的，不只是个人利益，而是：\n\n* 争取更公平、公开的法庭程序\n* 防止因程序不正义导致案件被推翻\n* 维护更广泛受害者的长期利益\n\n因此：\n\n👉 瑞恩、螺丝哥，以及目前在二巡行动的相关人员\n👉 其核心目的，并非“为郭翻案”\n\n⸻\n\n八、关于“翻案说”的回应\n\n所谓“帮郭翻案”的说法：\n\n* 可能具有传播上的吸引力（流量）\n* 但并非本质\n\n本质是：\n\n👉 行使一个美国公民被赋予的权利\n\n👉 并履行相应的责任\n\n⸻\n\n九、结语\n\n以上即为瑞恩参与司法行动的整体逻辑。\n\n感谢黄河边老师。\n也希望大家都能在郭案中，找到真正的自己。\n\n⸻\n\n🧠 我给你的一个点评（很关键）\n\n你这段内容本身其实已经具备：\n\n* ✔ 叙事逻辑\n* ✔ 核心论点（CVRA）\n* ✔ 思想高度（程序正义）\n\n但问题在于：\n\n👉 原版是“聊天式表达”\n👉 重排后变成“可传播文本 / 半法律说明文”\n\n⸻\n\n🔥 如果你再往前一步\n\n我可以帮你把这一版再升级成👇\n\n👉 “可以直接贴到二巡/高法附件里的版本”\n\n那就不是“群里材料”，而是：\n\n👉 🧾 正式法律叙事材料\n\n这个差别是很大的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdd4010fc9581f56c06c5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29f8f602f36b4fba5a7c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd4010fc9581f56c06c5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qeb16ac1b5fef01329c63","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":642,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-23T23:39:04.869Z","text":"就是为了给luc的g系列属于郭的结论堆证据。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q548aded8bc65d37ee4de","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb16ac1b5fef01329c63","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q548aded8bc65d37ee4de","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q78a1f03f9cdf893b1d0a","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":643,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-23T23:54:57.040Z","text":"看来[删节：成员身份]有意说了句真话，整个人类的灭共反共演员都不理螺丝哥，是因为不知道他是哪个派别。那些[屏蔽词]的思维方式就是这一定是某个派别的力量。这个舒演员，可能觉得管它什么派别，谁赢就挺谁。","edited":true,"reply_to":"q0a0e1770eead6cf0d3ee","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78a1f03f9cdf893b1d0a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a0e1770eead6cf0d3ee","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q739fbe584c611f05b88e","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":644,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-24T00:17:19.821Z","text":"这是我整理的开示证据的论证，还有两个月时间，有兴趣的可以结合自己的情况，把这些整理到自己的法律文件中。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q739fbe584c611f05b88e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qc37a356d49d38a53f1af","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":645,"speaker":".an***","date":"2026-04-24T00:25:48.290Z","text":"法官主动延期释放的信息量巨大，说明法官不敢硬判，她不得不正视案子存在的司法欺诈和程序不正义，看来对郭先生的判刑真的要黄了，感谢群里专家们的鼎力相助🌹🌹🌹🙏🙏🙏","edited":false,"reply_to":"q38e39ed090b2fa39687e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc37a356d49d38a53f1af","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38e39ed090b2fa39687e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q0d1a69a5de3216fdb241","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":646,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T00:37:26.488Z","text":"对 破产案是民事案，没有刑事责任\n本可以出现在刑事案，对郭有利的证据，都被带偏了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb9c45e2e0af149a78848","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d1a69a5de3216fdb241","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9c45e2e0af149a78848","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qedaefd9b2e3786dab2a6","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":647,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T00:41:11.309Z","text":"动议或者二巡 可以把王同意没收范围这个事儿 提出来\n不论如何，王和喜交所 farm loan扯不上关系，那么这一些实体冻结的钱，检方不能没收，更不可能让郭的个人破产案luc拿走","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3f917292c8ad73423129","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qedaefd9b2e3786dab2a6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f917292c8ad73423129","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qb098cfcf8e936ce7fe35","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":648,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T00:49:03.340Z","text":"所以青们，鼓动投资者又登记了债权人的，去破产案反对luc，减少刑事案第三方证人和对郭有利的证词，同时帮luc的虚假债权人登记解套，一石二鸟","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb65bdbfcc9d06ea35c64","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb098cfcf8e936ce7fe35","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb65bdbfcc9d06ea35c64","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q18a54b1980f5e0aa668e","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":649,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-04-24T00:51:40.532Z","text":"你可以写一个完整的版本吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qedaefd9b2e3786dab2a6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18a54b1980f5e0aa668e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qedaefd9b2e3786dab2a6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q0f08948079f96c39ee56","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":650,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T00:52:19.050Z","text":"我可以写一个简单timeline ，供参考","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f08948079f96c39ee56","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qf2eb9a785b9be6376cf8","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":651,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-24T00:52:26.336Z","text":"https://www.youtube.com/live/l0fMEfR5jMk?si=ZdYTVOMkntqjDyRh","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2eb9a785b9be6376cf8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q77f15a92224770f02569","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":652,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-24T00:52:45.283Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]节目 今天可能会提到螺丝哥","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77f15a92224770f02569","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qd8816dd50d48d3bdbbd5","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":653,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-04-24T00:53:09.424Z","text":"我觉得你可以讲得非常明白，最好写论文一样写清楚然后谁提交到二巡","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0f08948079f96c39ee56","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8816dd50d48d3bdbbd5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f08948079f96c39ee56","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q1fbb31cbeb7e9cd031db","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":654,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-04-24T01:05:40.082Z","text":"https://x.com/innercitypress/status/2047440142961348832?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1fbb31cbeb7e9cd031db","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qe0a19d2886150cbe1771","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":655,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-24T01:10:46.794Z","text":"这个很好","edited":false,"reply_to":"qedaefd9b2e3786dab2a6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0a19d2886150cbe1771","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qedaefd9b2e3786dab2a6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q91338aa803232633eb6c","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":656,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T01:25:18.918Z","text":"青弄的那个破产案债权人反对luc，是把可以在刑事案做第三方，提供证据帮郭的，引到了民事案去，对郭的定罪量刑没有任何帮助\n您可以和认识的投资人，普及一下这个viewpoint，第三方越多，青们越会慌乱，然后就是内部比谁反水的快","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe0a19d2886150cbe1771","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91338aa803232633eb6c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0a19d2886150cbe1771","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qa261e03122e09e416d7c","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":657,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T01:44:40.895Z","text":"[删节：成员身份] 后续的motion会有很多关于郭海/罗伊的细节哟\n毕竟号称盖特1000万users，对标川普的truth social\n多维可以关，后台原班人马跑到盖特维稳删号，这样不好吧 \n[删节：成员身份]我说的对不对啊","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa261e03122e09e416d7c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qe1362e82165c082a0103","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":658,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T01:57:17.816Z","text":"那帮人真的慌了🤣 🤣 🤣\n发出来之前，也不审核一下","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1362e82165c082a0103","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q622495cf0de239686614","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":659,"speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-04-24T02:02:48.774Z","text":"这是开始挖坑埋自己人了吗🤣😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe1362e82165c082a0103","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q622495cf0de239686614","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1362e82165c082a0103","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q17e5fc5fc856674fc80e","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":660,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T02:04:38.869Z","text":"农场主们卖青 也要排队\n先卖的有肉吃 不然就是吃牢饭\n这两个月是最好的window","edited":false,"reply_to":"q622495cf0de239686614","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17e5fc5fc856674fc80e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q622495cf0de239686614","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q20dc85723c3e70239dd1","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":661,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-24T02:20:14.054Z","text":"文贵这次会不会申请保释呀？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20dc85723c3e70239dd1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qb7f665719225d7a91057","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":662,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-24T02:23:02.132Z","text":"可能性很低","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7f665719225d7a91057","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q05bb7926b32f3b2db3d7","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":663,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T02:25:03.529Z","text":"小地鼠很阴险，估计要反水，这个推的重点在这里","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05bb7926b32f3b2db3d7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q742322556301c236f869","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":664,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T02:28:17.534Z","text":"https://x.com/nfsc_nick/status/2047487484037144596?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q742322556301c236f869","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qda933ccc77ce7bf65031","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":665,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T02:30:20.410Z","text":"估计他第一个要卖青，毕竟Tdccp卡的法人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda933ccc77ce7bf65031","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qea55da95aec5a3377716","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":666,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T02:34:06.863Z","text":"乱码妹急眼了，青又要多賴两个月，第三梯队没法上位🤣 \nhttps://x.com/sendxicptohell/status/2047452095423656361?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qea55da95aec5a3377716","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qe8659046b951547f070c","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":667,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-24T02:35:18.926Z","text":"［用户 joh***］ 搜集一下王艳萍的特务证据","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe8659046b951547f070c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qb489391648cc889e98d7","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":668,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T02:40:12.862Z","text":"不清楚这位 中间偏右 在不在群里\n乱码妹显然是语无伦次了 又扯政治斗争\n主事官又不是郭的主张\n第三方走853n的，主动权决定权给了检方，最终会被动成为赦免\n乱码妹，底裤都快暴露了🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb489391648cc889e98d7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q58efe25759a69208f81d","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":669,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-04-24T02:47:46.972Z","text":"他们怕这两个月把所有证据呈现法庭，托雷斯回避吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58efe25759a69208f81d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q0947d639c9d0c58d06d6","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":670,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-24T02:50:17.123Z","text":"怎么可以一个实体 一个实体的解剖：\nG-club\nH coin(喜交所）\nfarm loans\ndigital bank\nA10\nA15\nTDCCP\nROLF\nROLS \n每个农场\n\n- 这上面的实体， 谁是负人及核心骨干， 谁拿钱了，其投入与支出的帐目\n\n他们与郭的关系，郭拿钱了吗？ 拿了多少","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0947d639c9d0c58d06d6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q3e4e626c6f4683940899","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":671,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T02:50:43.001Z","text":"因为检方833把青卖了，之前青们的误导信息和陷害行为，就直接暴露了，压不住第三方提交证据，清醒的只会越来越多","edited":false,"reply_to":"q58efe25759a69208f81d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e4e626c6f4683940899","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58efe25759a69208f81d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qab3c0dac81d3c2f43d8b","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":672,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T02:53:05.040Z","text":"明白一个点，就好办了\n王，是Gtv saraca的director，两项认罪也是关于GTV洗钱和电信欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0947d639c9d0c58d06d6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab3c0dac81d3c2f43d8b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0947d639c9d0c58d06d6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qf74ec729b7c04f76f037","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":673,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T02:53:35.736Z","text":"其他几个实体，王沾不上边。\n没收范围已经远超王的involvement，她没有这个决定权利","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf74ec729b7c04f76f037","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qf19588a027d8d33a5e05","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":674,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-24T02:56:22.905Z","text":"最后 所有帐目算下来 蛇和燕子，共匪的骨干 犯罪团伙 偷普通战友的钱的 图就出来了。 确实有犯罪行为 但是郭无罪 是那些签了免起诉协议的 犯罪了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf19588a027d8d33a5e05","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qc2ae644c5d4d2bbc910e","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":675,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-24T03:18:15.133Z","text":"你说了一个很好的观点","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0947d639c9d0c58d06d6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc2ae644c5d4d2bbc910e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0947d639c9d0c58d06d6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qa4ea8fe1e92f9c80a5e9","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":676,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-24T03:18:28.792Z","text":"接下去tony有一招绝妙的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa4ea8fe1e92f9c80a5e9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qc07e55019f76530d52e6","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":677,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-24T03:29:06.647Z","text":"王同意没收超出范围 这个点目前没有人提及。\n\n这个点还非常大！","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf74ec729b7c04f76f037","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc07e55019f76530d52e6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf74ec729b7c04f76f037","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q359831043b6b11bf13d3","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":678,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-24T03:33:39.704Z","text":"对的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc07e55019f76530d52e6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q359831043b6b11bf13d3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc07e55019f76530d52e6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q7b8beb1e85f9a3091e7c","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":679,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-04-24T03:34:01.903Z","text":"https://x.com/ddivul8m3g82864/status/2047516449284210813?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b8beb1e85f9a3091e7c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qcca7568bae199365e1bf","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":680,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T03:35:35.634Z","text":"［用户 chu***］ 星辰本来到27号，这个项目就可以结束发奖金，这下黄了🤣","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcca7568bae199365e1bf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q83fee13dcab9f80f09bd","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":681,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T03:37:49.189Z","text":"这个，如果把王同意的没收范围，推翻\n再想弄喜交所，余就要出面，也可能直接被检方卖掉\n喜交所不没收，盖尔要滚犊子\nhttps://x.com/amos_kp/status/2047131709343478042?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":"q359831043b6b11bf13d3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83fee13dcab9f80f09bd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q359831043b6b11bf13d3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qb249da399b619d21c903","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":682,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T03:40:19.777Z","text":"只要Rico成立，郭就要替王和余的行为背锅，就算他没拿钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"q83fee13dcab9f80f09bd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb249da399b619d21c903","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83fee13dcab9f80f09bd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qc1c9588d16bdb415fbb0","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":683,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T03:40:28.075Z","text":"除非你推翻Rico","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1c9588d16bdb415fbb0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q2b5a0abc4e7e404aaf34","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":684,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T03:40:55.098Z","text":"Rico的重点就是，即使你没拿钱，你的手下都是替你藏钱的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b5a0abc4e7e404aaf34","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qa99b0b3b812eef2ee0a2","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":685,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T03:40:59.968Z","text":"定罪和没收 两码事","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb249da399b619d21c903","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa99b0b3b812eef2ee0a2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb249da399b619d21c903","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q5817d79cccc5f1a447ac","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":686,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-24T03:41:00.337Z","text":"这不是刑民混用吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5817d79cccc5f1a447ac","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q54edffb8ac38a7ef61bd","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":687,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-24T03:41:40.153Z","text":"那喜交所就不能算损失","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa99b0b3b812eef2ee0a2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54edffb8ac38a7ef61bd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa99b0b3b812eef2ee0a2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qf423273c502539b68611","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":688,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-24T03:41:41.687Z","text":"luc那边就是一直在程序倒置的做实这个事。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2b5a0abc4e7e404aaf34","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf423273c502539b68611","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b5a0abc4e7e404aaf34","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q56ba921ce9f69348ca21","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":689,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T03:41:47.187Z","text":"Rico的意思就是，你是最大boss，就算你自己什么坏事也没有亲手干，你也要背锅","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56ba921ce9f69348ca21","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qeb1a5e83cea44eca7deb","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":690,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-24T03:41:51.199Z","text":"哦","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb1a5e83cea44eca7deb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q23d4f24dc5e8570ebf05","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":691,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T03:41:52.336Z","text":"就是这意思","edited":false,"reply_to":"q54edffb8ac38a7ef61bd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23d4f24dc5e8570ebf05","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54edffb8ac38a7ef61bd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q79b61849ff44eff9baf0","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":692,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-24T03:41:52.559Z","text":"可以算","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79b61849ff44eff9baf0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q6aca14c2cf2195379201","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":693,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-24T03:42:00.029Z","text":"他们签协议了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q23d4f24dc5e8570ebf05","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6aca14c2cf2195379201","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23d4f24dc5e8570ebf05","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qc51f4ab6fb9a5b390fa0","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":694,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T03:42:18.428Z","text":"这就是朱莉安妮用来Rico黑帮老大的法案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc51f4ab6fb9a5b390fa0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q38220f10f1ac64e31f08","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":695,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-24T03:42:45.610Z","text":"他们签协议了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38220f10f1ac64e31f08","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q9466d65bd6365ec29faa","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":696,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-24T03:43:03.861Z","text":"检方的钱都给luc","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9466d65bd6365ec29faa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url"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当时那个协议的文件","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9db71e90205eb804eebf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qaf0b0f083b2981dd1891","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":709,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T03:48:23.991Z","text":"luc涉及欺诈 债权人虚假登记\n债权人 是不是 G集团 真实受益人？\n这个luc必须要证明\n不然alter ego negative","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf0b0f083b2981dd1891","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qa881fcae8a83c1e2c04c","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":710,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-24T03:50:41.454Z","text":"本案的核心点，就是luc在接受拱卒和朱莉娅的债权之前，没有独立证明G enterprise 属于郭。从这个点开始，后面的一切都得推翻。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa881fcae8a83c1e2c04c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qabd86c3977b8ce417452","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":711,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-24T03:50:43.748Z","text":"还有60天， 钱的去向解决了， 郭就无罪了。RICO在那个起诉书里开始的 hi mam","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabd86c3977b8ce417452","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qe271502c8fa223d284c5","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":712,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-24T03:50:55.243Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe271502c8fa223d284c5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qe157a748c58eb265e148","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":713,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T03:51:48.119Z","text":"即使钱没有进郭的口袋，按照Rico，他手下都是替他藏钱的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qabd86c3977b8ce417452","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe157a748c58eb265e148","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabd86c3977b8ce417452","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qbd4894ede7187129e8a7","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":714,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T03:52:07.466Z","text":"包括郭美郭强","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbd4894ede7187129e8a7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q5d90fddcb3cd860d5b66","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":715,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T03:52:16.136Z","text":"都是他的alter ego","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d90fddcb3cd860d5b66","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q10b89cc187b099110b82","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":716,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-24T03:52:29.894Z","text":"但是第三方 否认","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10b89cc187b099110b82","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q36651be1b9b60b00f940","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":717,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T03:52:43.968Z","text":"对 同理 \n登记的郭破产案债权人\n就不能证明是G集团 真实受益人\n债权人-郭-G集团-luc\n中间一环，luc没有举证","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa881fcae8a83c1e2c04c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q36651be1b9b60b00f940","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa881fcae8a83c1e2c04c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qc0f4fac2d2324bf41f27","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":718,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T03:52:49.008Z","text":"所以这个案子，还是破产案的程序问题，是最核心的问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0f4fac2d2324bf41f27","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q04e8a89e650e4ca6133b","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":719,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T03:53:11.472Z","text":"另外，特别懂得Rico法案的律师，应该能马上看出问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q04e8a89e650e4ca6133b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qa65f5b6f02d075019af3","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":720,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T03:53:52.762Z","text":"我觉得受害者提交动议，主要是补充灭共演员的罪行","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa65f5b6f02d075019af3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q0e0037f64c9572a74dc1","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":721,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-24T03:53:59.620Z","text":"例如我的数字银行投资， 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enterprise 属于郭，然后还虚报投资金额。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc974d0a2e54a5bc413dc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q0d4c5dea3d5fb93f4a77","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":725,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T03:58:10.102Z","text":"检方对郭的第三版起诉书，就直接称G enterprise 就是郭家族企业\n这是一开始就扣帽子了 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如果运营没被没收， 专家当时的估值是300倍！\n\n相当一部分luc 债权人 包括我，都是基于这个专家的估值，登记的。但是源于拱卒 Julia。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74343151fd87699b6945","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qeef89d3d96941885b17c","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":732,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T04:00:20.823Z","text":"这种登记本来就是非法的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q74343151fd87699b6945","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeef89d3d96941885b17c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74343151fd87699b6945","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q4dcdbaef11fe62de89ec","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":733,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T04:01:31.756Z","text":"没有举证，就开始登记，属于违法\n郭应该看出来这个猫腻，就顺水推舟，掺沙子","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc974d0a2e54a5bc413dc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4dcdbaef11fe62de89ec","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc974d0a2e54a5bc413dc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q52048577b170208c656f","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":734,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T04:01:38.994Z","text":"虽然是luc先接受的，也是非法的。只不过因为luc接受了，郭反对无效，所以郭说你们也可以按照这个登记，他不算妨碍司法，因为他说这个话是有前提的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52048577b170208c656f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qbc7039d647275029eb5f","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":735,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T04:01:50.713Z","text":"对 是这意思","edited":false,"reply_to":"q52048577b170208c656f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc7039d647275029eb5f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52048577b170208c656f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qe7395b3b5b0f8644a141","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":736,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T04:02:16.510Z","text":"但是虽然他说这个话不算违法，如果你真的这么做了，我估计也算违法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe7395b3b5b0f8644a141","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q9752e72df1714d7bbbb1","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":737,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T04:02:56.386Z","text":"因为他说话，不等于鼓动，他只是告诉你，你可以这样做，不等于强迫","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9752e72df1714d7bbbb1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q5b10f6d3dc645492af27","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":738,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-24T04:02:57.571Z","text":"luc接受拱卒Julia， 并且用来迫害被告 就是司法欺诈。luc 是什么人？ 7千万花了， 3年了 为什么不说这320亿的虚假？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b10f6d3dc645492af27","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qe5998f1e1b0f182f08a8","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":739,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T04:03:58.672Z","text":"后面破产案，HCHK债权人反对luc，和这次青让债权人去反对luc，都是想跳过举证郭掌控G enterprise，这个环节","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc974d0a2e54a5bc413dc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5998f1e1b0f182f08a8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc974d0a2e54a5bc413dc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qfcadf9601fd2c38a5b51","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":740,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T04:04:26.803Z","text":"Luc接受虚假登记，是卢克违法","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5b10f6d3dc645492af27","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfcadf9601fd2c38a5b51","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b10f6d3dc645492af27","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q3b84c63feaa40eceee2b","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":741,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T04:04:36.401Z","text":"至少算是失职","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b84c63feaa40eceee2b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qcb686f3f6ad4fb0bee97","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":742,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T04:05:07.182Z","text":"郭说你们也可以登记，他说是有前提的，而且他只是说了，不等于你一定要去做","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb686f3f6ad4fb0bee97","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qb6182d255562e5d7bef9","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":743,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T04:05:32.176Z","text":"真正手把手教战友做的是联盟农场","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb6182d255562e5d7bef9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qe5040d7c53cf37abeef9","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":744,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T04:06:50.171Z","text":"另外当时郭说的是，如果有战友信仰不坚定，对投资不放心，你可以去登记债权人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5040d7c53cf37abeef9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qd8b8308dc88d7bb3e64d","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":745,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T04:07:14.939Z","text":"他没说你登记就是好战友，不登记就不是战友，他没有这么说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8b8308dc88d7bb3e64d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qf323a6b4864f8436a5cd","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":746,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T04:11:19.930Z","text":"联盟农场扭曲了郭的话，鼓动了一群战友去登记债权人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf323a6b4864f8436a5cd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q460f442514267320e36b","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":747,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T04:11:56.965Z","text":"包括抗议卢克也是，郭说他反对，联盟农场扭曲他的话，组织人抗议","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q460f442514267320e36b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q635c4aa6b9f09b37396e","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":748,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T04:12:29.266Z","text":"联盟农场打着郭的名义做了不知道多少事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q635c4aa6b9f09b37396e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q51d9b17d9e63bf9810c3","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":749,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T04:14:17.571Z","text":"检方从来不说清楚，就是非常模糊，让你猜猜猜","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0d4c5dea3d5fb93f4a77","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51d9b17d9e63bf9810c3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d4c5dea3d5fb93f4a77","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q1dff13cddcf164b05284","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":750,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T04:14:25.501Z","text":"这种做事方式很中国","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1dff13cddcf164b05284","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qf6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enterprise 属于债务人后，luc才能把这一欺诈转移写入破产案？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe5998f1e1b0f182f08a8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90bc687090eef000979b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5998f1e1b0f182f08a8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qcfec00cf5f9336018d6e","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":755,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T04:25:44.293Z","text":"没有登记债权人的投资者可以去刑事庭，根据法官之前说的妨碍司法虚假索赔，反对债权人分钱","edited":false,"reply_to":"q90bc687090eef000979b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfec00cf5f9336018d6e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90bc687090eef000979b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qc66ba80bdf564c348dd6","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":756,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T04:26:00.299Z","text":"债权人登记的合法性本来就很有问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc66ba80bdf564c348dd6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qe367359573c54472aa46","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":757,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-24T04:27:32.440Z","text":"债权人登记的合法性， Luc 检方最清楚。他们咋不打这个牌呢？ 🤔","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe367359573c54472aa46","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q5d33e8938e364faafacb","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":758,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-24T04:28:27.281Z","text":"检方 luc 3年了， 还在含糊其辞 到底掩盖什么？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d33e8938e364faafacb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q90f2b835b1abcaf9e0c8","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":759,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-24T04:28:38.350Z","text":"我这个地方是想说叫床兰等是在作伪证，怎么把这个路径给捋出来。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcfec00cf5f9336018d6e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90f2b835b1abcaf9e0c8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfec00cf5f9336018d6e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q75e413d027b018b045cc","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":760,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T04:28:54.896Z","text":"用常识和逻辑想一下，郭在直播里都说了，公族Julia是虚假登记债权人，想搞他，那他怎么可能鼓励真正的战友去登记呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q75e413d027b018b045cc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q1e67f24818e709f12892","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":761,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T04:29:08.274Z","text":"他鼓励战友去搞他自己？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e67f24818e709f12892","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qc1d8568918919cd52557","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":762,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T04:29:13.273Z","text":"这根本就不合理","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1d8568918919cd52557","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q2fdce26a79a5948b0e1c","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":763,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-24T04:29:36.793Z","text":"民事案， 如果有人说我欠他钱， 我会说： 滚！ 证据呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2fdce26a79a5948b0e1c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q47a22502729ed1be71e5","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":764,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-24T04:30:18.034Z","text":"就这么简单， luc 完全可以说 你不合规。滚","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47a22502729ed1be71e5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q7f60bd320ddea0118f03","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":765,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T04:30:38.036Z","text":"所以整个案子就是荒唐，完全没有常识","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f60bd320ddea0118f03","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q647b1ae18f978c63098c","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":766,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T04:31:00.758Z","text":"之所以能成立，是因为中国人的脑子和一般人不太一样","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q647b1ae18f978c63098c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q947fd60098bbbfbb9635","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":767,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T04:31:08.261Z","text":"缺乏逻辑和常识","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q947fd60098bbbfbb9635","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q66b9012bad5e3fc6a617","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":768,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T04:31:15.465Z","text":"只听联盟农场","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66b9012bad5e3fc6a617","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qcd030efdb0d41a3d49d1","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":769,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T04:31:21.596Z","text":"对啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"q90bc687090eef000979b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd030efdb0d41a3d49d1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90bc687090eef000979b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q2f8e0218d8d5434d11ed","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":770,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T04:31:29.682Z","text":"就是我说的那个环节 luc跳过了中间一环","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f8e0218d8d5434d11ed","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q455f31e874970ef9d829","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":771,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T04:32:54.505Z","text":"青们现在干的，不就是把投资者往破产庭引 引向民事案 帮luc的虚假登记 洗白\n不希望投资者成为刑事案第三方 这部分证据，到了刑事案，才对郭有帮助，去了民事案，就是石沉大海，废了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcfec00cf5f9336018d6e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q455f31e874970ef9d829","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfec00cf5f9336018d6e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qffad09cb3810ef6db33e","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":772,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T04:36:21.547Z","text":"不敢打 郭因为鼓动债权人虚假登记，已经被判了\n检方如果拿这个事儿出来，luc就惨了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe367359573c54472aa46","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qffad09cb3810ef6db33e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe367359573c54472aa46","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q2fe669ca3e4cdd803d4b","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":773,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T04:37:31.309Z","text":"掺沙子\n不管luc葫芦里卖的什么药 和他对着干 准没错","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc1d8568918919cd52557","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2fe669ca3e4cdd803d4b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1d8568918919cd52557","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q5d485b6b3e3954f1db1f","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":774,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-24T04:38:39.911Z","text":"所以现在各个骨干 的所作所为 就是为了给luc 司法欺诈拖套","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d485b6b3e3954f1db1f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qdb748dcb16d751c6b2fb","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":775,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T04:38:51.652Z","text":"作伪证很难证明，除非你有证据推翻证词","edited":false,"reply_to":"q90f2b835b1abcaf9e0c8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb748dcb16d751c6b2fb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q90f2b835b1abcaf9e0c8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q770f4104d8b574dfce13","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":776,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T04:39:14.792Z","text":"因为每一个人他对事件的解读感觉是不一样的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q770f4104d8b574dfce13","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qe8bee3e7b670a5702501","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":777,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T04:39:30.643Z","text":"木兰就觉得郭指挥她做事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe8bee3e7b670a5702501","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qdd7f5351a41a42139cd7","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":778,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T04:39:36.911Z","text":"你能怎么说？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd7f5351a41a42139cd7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q31bf3b8bff414c9ac8f0","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":779,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T04:40:10.100Z","text":"木兰就觉得郭是她老板","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31bf3b8bff414c9ac8f0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qa28ed6ce975ce27a2d14","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":780,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T04:40:16.106Z","text":"你怎么反驳","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa28ed6ce975ce27a2d14","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q434f2c014ed997145d13","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":781,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-24T04:41:03.945Z","text":"说明她做假证","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q434f2c014ed997145d13","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q8f414dbadf84c02a89f8","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":782,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T04:41:14.720Z","text":"你只能指出她说错的事实","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f414dbadf84c02a89f8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q830012a122b0aad0b001","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":783,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T04:41:25.957Z","text":"可以质疑\n阿刁这里就帮了大忙🤣\n又是认罪书 又是故事情节被威胁","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8f414dbadf84c02a89f8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q830012a122b0aad0b001","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f414dbadf84c02a89f8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qb470c4f92750063340f4","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":784,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-24T04:44:23.907Z","text":"就说证词不可靠。在没有单独证明G enterprise 之前，你到破产受托人那里承认自己是替债务人欺诈转移，这属于对破产受托人虚假陈述，你在破产法庭虚假陈述，那在南区法院的陈述自然不可靠。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa28ed6ce975ce27a2d14","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb470c4f92750063340f4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa28ed6ce975ce27a2d14","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q66bf219b1ab92032279d","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":785,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T04:46:25.042Z","text":"只能说证词不可靠，但是庭审时律师已经质疑了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb470c4f92750063340f4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66bf219b1ab92032279d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb470c4f92750063340f4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qce8711991cda42340b25","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":786,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-24T04:46:38.261Z","text":"根本没用，陪审团还是判了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce8711991cda42340b25","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qfc68e22cc726cc1d1538","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":787,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T04:47:52.691Z","text":"黄老师 快被螺丝哥绕晕了🤣 🤣","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc68e22cc726cc1d1538","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qe36edae8a2bee2533bb0","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":788,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T04:48:35.444Z","text":"当时没用 因为那时候 王案没判 没涉及没收\n破产案luc 还没有进来刑事案","edited":false,"reply_to":"qce8711991cda42340b25","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe36edae8a2bee2533bb0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce8711991cda42340b25","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q884140cf42b4fd985b07","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":789,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-24T04:49:01.940Z","text":"重点在于，在没有单独证明G enterprise属于被告之前，它们把自己偷钱的行为说成是替债务人欺诈转移，呈现给南区法院的陪审团，就是伪证。至少是因果倒置。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q884140cf42b4fd985b07","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qb55f3f81e8840a84c997","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":790,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T04:52:43.172Z","text":"王案确认没收范围后 luc进来 要拿钱 就必须证明破产案里的 郭alter ego G enterprise","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb55f3f81e8840a84c997","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q3be73cf05057255dc674","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":791,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T04:53:13.252Z","text":"luc鸡贼的地方 就是从民事案进到刑事案 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[删节：成员身份]闯祸了","edited":true,"reply_to":"qded0dccdd72b14316f6d","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ddef2607016d5213b47","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q656438eea30da0c98454","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":793,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-24T05:04:31.733Z","text":"这期节目","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q656438eea30da0c98454","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"qf087ab98566f660d9362","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":794,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-24T05:04:36.172Z","text":"我估计[删节：成员身份]完蛋了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf087ab98566f660d9362","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000104"},{"id":"q0f44476f4a8b17917873","batch_id":"batch-000104","seq":795,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-24T05:05:47.434Z","text":"破产案luc扣帽子 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