{"id":"batch-000105","number":105,"revision":2,"date_start":"2026-04-24T22:11:34.133Z","date_end":"2026-04-26T15:22:48.101Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 105 (Apr 24, 2026 – Apr 26, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. From Apr 24 to Apr 26, 2026, discussion centered on appellate procedure and narrative framing. Participants argued about whether second-review filings should continue into the Southern District and whether exhibits, including 853n, should enter the record, with delay seen as either attachment extension or case-end signal. They also disputed victim versus creditor status, fund-flow and loss attribution, and evidence-control concerns, while invoking Rule 60d, Fatico, Brady, Rico, and 716-4 without treating them as verified court findings. Community statements, not court findings.","guide_en":[{"title":"Whether second-review filing should proceed before syncing to the Southern District","description":"Participants argued about whether a second-review filing was already in place and whether that record should be synced to the Southern District as part of the next procedural step. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q58200d8e12a9219b76e1","q61f0100d76634d769155","q07ea63cffcfa70987498"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q58200d8e12a9219b76e1","summary_en":"roy*** asked whether case 838 had already been filed in second review. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q61f0100d76634d769155","summary_en":"kir*** replied that they had not found confirmation. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q07ea63cffcfa70987498","summary_en":"ntp*** said their materials were sent to the Southern District and asked whether he was also required to upload the motion there. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Dispute over whether attachments and the 853n motion are filed in the record and aligned with Southern District materials","description":"Participants contended that attachments should be treated as investment proof, while disagreeing over whether the 853n motion and related filing were actually entered in the appellate record. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qaa82d7b636bc00bb5a17","q2498794979cbcc474b80","qf14b73bca6eddcc7b345"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qaa82d7b636bc00bb5a17","summary_en":"him*** said the attachments represented his investment evidence. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q2498794979cbcc474b80","summary_en":"ntp*** questioned whether a motion of that type could be filed in second review. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf14b73bca6eddcc7b345","summary_en":"him*** argued that 853n had not been placed in the record. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Narrative shift from \"Guo fraud\" to conspiracy and judicial narrative claims","description":"Participants argued that the case framing was moving from a single-person accusation to a broader conspiracy and alliance frame, while treating that shift as contested rather than settled. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q913031dd63aed64d9595","qcbf9f98a313f5290adc0","q2990caa43ef3c9ea6580"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q913031dd63aed64d9595","summary_en":"him*** noted that the case seemed to be turning. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qcbf9f98a313f5290adc0","summary_en":"him*** suggested reframing from \"Guo fraud\" to \"alliance fraud.\" Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q2990caa43ef3c9ea6580","summary_en":"ntp*** said the turn was also seen as a move against the alliance. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Whether post-delay proceedings mean resentencing or case closure","description":"Participants disputed whether delays were meant to preserve leverage in the criminal case or signal that the matter had effectively concluded. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q75f82c57adcd334ca060","q489907c08f8d4816f6f5","q37b94c969da8c16d2d4c"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q75f82c57adcd334ca060","summary_en":"ntp*** asked what the proceeding would do over the next two months and whether the Master would be released. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q489907c08f8d4816f6f5","summary_en":"ntp*** claimed the current extensions were being used to increase attachment time. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q37b94c969da8c16d2d4c","summary_en":"him*** asserted that the case was finished. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Attorney, self-prosecution, and pro se route","description":"Participants contended over legal representation, with some urging a lawyer and others highlighting cost limits and the possible pro se route. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q35c03faa587ab5b86f6c","q7a30020bd72246a7bc00","qd226d554770ad6a456c4"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q35c03faa587ab5b86f6c","summary_en":"him*** advised finding a reliable lawyer and avoiding Chinese-language counsel. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q7a30020bd72246a7bc00","summary_en":"ntp*** said counsel was still needed but unaffordable. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qd226d554770ad6a456c4","summary_en":"him*** then suggested proceeding pro se as an alternative. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Whether third-wave warrants/ enforcement motions are a key turning point","description":"Participants disputed if there was a new filing stage, with some tying it to the filing status and others seeing the shift to a third-wave enforcement cycle as decisive. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q988edad6108631103737","q198f4b895862844787c3","q6197b8853004ef66f5ce"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q988edad6108631103737","summary_en":"kir*** referred to a filing step in the ongoing process. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q198f4b895862844787c3","summary_en":"beg*** said he contacted second review about materials not being returned and pointed to possible identity-related privacy constraints, then urged calling second review for records. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q6197b8853004ef66f5ce","summary_en":"kir*** stated that a third-wave shift was coming. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Whether livestreams and social-media threat posts count as evidence or media confrontation","description":"Participants disputed the evidentiary value of livestream and social-media content, with one side treating it as rumor or coercive theater and the other reading it as case-linked behavior. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q8bf99930ac3fbc6880dc","q172390a311be71bb605d","q7865110bb04d0a778ebc"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q8bf99930ac3fbc6880dc","summary_en":"kir*** dismissed some posts as repeating hearsay. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q172390a311be71bb605d","summary_en":"nev*** reported claims that someone publicly flaunted Guo being neatly prepared for courtroom release. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q7865110bb04d0a778ebc","summary_en":"him*** said discussions repeatedly ended up attributing everything to Guo. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Victim and creditor qualification and party positioning","description":"Participants contested who should be treated as a victim versus a creditor, and where the practical litigation route should be pursued. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q3d7483742018d893e1ff","q6e5b24f8d3c001df39f1","q9ae68f6f34467327cb80"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q3d7483742018d893e1ff","summary_en":"joh*** warned people not to rely on criminal-case victim status and said bankruptcy-only claims may be ineffective. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q6e5b24f8d3c001df39f1","summary_en":"joh*** contrasted 1,800 bankruptcy creditors with 6,000 exchange customers, advised separating bankruptcy from criminal matters, and urged communication from awakened participants. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q9ae68f6f34467327cb80","summary_en":"reb*** contended that if only equitable-interest actors intervene, the court may defer on resource grounds, leaving entities like gclub beneficiaries, and that once sentenced victims may be treated as ordinary creditors under the luc narrative. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Whether the funding chain and loss attribution are settled as a core conviction issue","description":"Participants disputed the money trail and whether loss allocation was clear, including recipient identity and currency conversion mechanics, while rejecting some speculative intermediary theories. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q3e4b4f3268f471598347","q3117e1085543409ab6b8","q380661b7b6507dd1c285"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q3e4b4f3268f471598347","summary_en":"spr*** asked whether another person was a collector in the same role as the speaker. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q3117e1085543409ab6b8","summary_en":"kir*** asked who she used to convert RMB into USD after receiving it. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q380661b7b6507dd1c285","summary_en":"ntp*** argued it was unnecessary to assume a scalper arrangement. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Whether prosecution and trustee concealed evidence or failed in duty","description":"Participants disputed accountability claims against the trustee and prosecution, arguing that courts have direct leverage over parties but limited control over third parties. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qecd43e93b1c36fcf1a14","q8dffd856aabdc49b0fbf","q1643f9a722b99ed2f45f"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qecd43e93b1c36fcf1a14","summary_en":"kir*** said courts can control prosecutors and defense but not third parties. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q8dffd856aabdc49b0fbf","summary_en":"kir*** invoked trustee good faith or integrity concerns. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q1643f9a722b99ed2f45f","summary_en":"kir*** argued that corrective action had not been taken for three years. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Criminal-case and bankruptcy-process linkage, and asset and refund-traceability differences","description":"Participants disputed a post-sentencing path through Rule 60d that uses criminal-case assets and agreements, while also contesting how refunds should be treated in bankruptcy claims. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q88ac7e285ba530802dd7","qd3994ac902bde012842c","q13c9d5c6c1a31c9ff0be"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q88ac7e285ba530802dd7","summary_en":"kir*** described a path where after sentencing, Ryan Rule60d begins and any party with criminal-case assets could act. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qd3994ac902bde012842c","summary_en":"kir*** added that parties could rely on luc and the prosecution agreement. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q13c9d5c6c1a31c9ff0be","summary_en":"reb*** questioned whether refunds made before filing, including potential GTV-related seizures, should be reclaimed as debtor funds and then treated as ordinary-creditor claims. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Procedural and evidence-level judicial injustice debate: Fatico, Brady, and witness admissibility","description":"Participants disputed judicial-integrity claims centered on the money-flow model, alleged misleading FBI testimony, and use of witness evidence tied to Fatico, Brady, and Rico arguments. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q43f86aea2e966b601d96","qee1a737d3e0becdf621e","qfdb700c95a71e37f2602"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q43f86aea2e966b601d96","summary_en":"kir*** said the FBI expert cash-in/cash-out model was disrupted by 716-4. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qee1a737d3e0becdf621e","summary_en":"kir*** questioned how the prosecution could allow an FBI witness to mislead the jury. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qfdb700c95a71e37f2602","summary_en":"kir*** attributed the Rico issue to problematic witness testimony. Community statements, not court findings."}]}],"summary":"讨论在程序与叙事两线并行：对二审处理路径争议最集中的包括先立案后是否向南区同步上传、附件/853n及动议是否入卷、第三波催办是否触发核验。另有大量争论集中在资金链与loss归责、受害者与债权人资格、检方与受托人是否隐匿或失责。叙事从“郭诈骗”扩展到共谋、司法欺诈和政治介入，但多方也提醒目前仍有大量推测。关于后续路径，成员在律师自诉、是否并行推进破产、上诉时机上反复对立。直播、社媒威胁帖和删帖行为被部分人视为舆论压力依据，也被另一部分质疑为非可信证据，整体未形成统一结论，只在程序正当性与可核验材料边界上持续博弈。","guide":[{"title":"二审先立案后同步到南区是否应持续执行","message_ids":["q58200d8e12a9219b76e1","q61f0100d76634d769155","q07ea63cffcfa70987498"]},{"title":"附件及853n动议是否入卷、与南区材料一致性争议","message_ids":["qaa82d7b636bc00bb5a17","q2498794979cbcc474b80","qf14b73bca6eddcc7b345"]},{"title":"叙事焦点从“郭诈骗”转向共谋与司法叙事是否成立","message_ids":["q913031dd63aed64d9595","qcbf9f98a313f5290adc0","q2990caa43ef3c9ea6580"]},{"title":"延期后是否改判、是否已转向量刑决定出现两种预期","message_ids":["q75f82c57adcd334ca060","q489907c08f8d4816f6f5","q37b94c969da8c16d2d4c"]},{"title":"请律师、自诉与“自诉证据材料”路线之间存在分歧","message_ids":["q35c03faa587ab5b86f6c","q7a30020bd72246a7bc00","qd226d554770ad6a456c4"]},{"title":"第三波/强制令与催办动作是否是关键转折点","message_ids":["q988edad6108631103737","q198f4b895862844787c3","q6197b8853004ef66f5ce"]},{"title":"直播与社媒威胁帖是否构成证据或仅为舆论对抗","message_ids":["q8bf99930ac3fbc6880dc","q172390a311be71bb605d","q7865110bb04d0a778ebc"]},{"title":"“受害者/债权人资格”与主体定位反复拉扯","message_ids":["q3d7483742018d893e1ff","q6e5b24f8d3c001df39f1","q9ae68f6f34467327cb80"]},{"title":"资金链与loss归属是否确定，是否为定罪核心争点","message_ids":["q3e4b4f3268f471598347","q3117e1085543409ab6b8","q380661b7b6507dd1c285"]},{"title":"检方/受托人是否存在隐匿证据或失责被多方质疑","message_ids":["qecd43e93b1c36fcf1a14","q8dffd856aabdc49b0fbf","q1643f9a722b99ed2f45f"]},{"title":"刑事案材料与破产程序衔接、财产与退费去向分歧","message_ids":["q88ac7e285ba530802dd7","qd3994ac902bde012842c","q13c9d5c6c1a31c9ff0be"]},{"title":"程序与证据层面的“司法不正义”争论：Fatico、Brady与证词可采性","message_ids":["q43f86aea2e966b601d96","qee1a737d3e0becdf621e","qfdb700c95a71e37f2602"]}],"closed":true,"is_finalized":true,"updated_at":"2026-09-06T17:52:25.066Z","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_batch","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105/pages/2","base_batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000105?page=2","page":2,"page_size":200,"total_pages":5,"has_more":true,"next_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000105?page=3","prev_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000105","messages":[{"id":"q8fb9c72a554a1326bcca","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":201,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-25T01:28:54.198Z","text":"青明白 小地鼠 会第一个反水","edited":false,"reply_to":"q26796ca8da0b323c5915","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8fb9c72a554a1326bcca","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26796ca8da0b323c5915","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qe9c4088c29a2f100522f","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":202,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-25T01:29:05.760Z","text":"幸亏黄老师聪明马上改变策略😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9c4088c29a2f100522f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q08f4c908909656083b50","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":203,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-25T01:31:18.128Z","text":"这两个月，律师继续不作为，docket 撬不开，破产法庭那边把程序和漏洞补完，还是继续量刑。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08f4c908909656083b50","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qbdd9682792c88b9da890","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":204,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-25T01:31:32.384Z","text":"石头这家伙还是很毒的。\n除了他比较仔细地介绍了五个人中的三位（Tony，Jason and Doe) 的暂停量刑，其它还是咬定郭是骗子、骗术高明…………CTM!","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbdd9682792c88b9da890","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qc9a1c042ea0dd444257e","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":205,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-25T01:31:35.120Z","text":"青是在威胁小地鼠","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9a1c042ea0dd444257e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q71a6a05e08d460cdc974","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":206,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-25T01:32:12.199Z","text":"他必须在承认郭是骗子的前提下 才能提二巡五个人 不然不会让他播","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71a6a05e08d460cdc974","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q0b70004e6b32ec449f05","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":207,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-25T01:32:42.613Z","text":"否则他会有麻烦？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q71a6a05e08d460cdc974","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b70004e6b32ec449f05","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71a6a05e08d460cdc974","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qca9df75efc8c543df68a","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":208,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T01:32:51.518Z","text":"是","edited":false,"reply_to":"q71a6a05e08d460cdc974","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca9df75efc8c543df68a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71a6a05e08d460cdc974","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q99a94b82bcce3a0e458e","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":209,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T01:33:11.294Z","text":"他敢说我们已经很好了😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbdd9682792c88b9da890","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99a94b82bcce3a0e458e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbdd9682792c88b9da890","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qcfef6d833f8b7c330a76","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":210,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-25T01:33:32.868Z","text":"您觉得郭律师应该有什么行动从能彻底翻案？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q08f4c908909656083b50","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfef6d833f8b7c330a76","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08f4c908909656083b50","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qa8e8ce4e32588b657616","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":211,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-25T01:33:57.715Z","text":"南区阶段不会有。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcfef6d833f8b7c330a76","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8e8ce4e32588b657616","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfef6d833f8b7c330a76","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q149dbc3af32a1692b68c","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":212,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-25T01:34:29.027Z","text":"那就是白白又等了2个月","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q149dbc3af32a1692b68c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q5a5d1725a1a4e003ebc8","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":213,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-25T01:34:37.092Z","text":"他在此群应该有小号，一般人是不可能知道5个二巡紧急叫停申请的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q99a94b82bcce3a0e458e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a5d1725a1a4e003ebc8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99a94b82bcce3a0e458e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q8f448e29774ad2124d2d","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":214,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T01:34:50.904Z","text":"不是白等","edited":false,"reply_to":"q149dbc3af32a1692b68c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f448e29774ad2124d2d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q149dbc3af32a1692b68c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qef20c7b6487d1adf83c3","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":215,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T01:34:57.175Z","text":"我们可以继续打","edited":false,"reply_to":"q149dbc3af32a1692b68c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef20c7b6487d1adf83c3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q149dbc3af32a1692b68c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q59deb0e113d47fd9d532","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":216,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-25T01:35:25.119Z","text":"直接在二巡打就完了呗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59deb0e113d47fd9d532","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q59054e1b68bcfdace478","batch_id":"batch-000105"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你看taga的帖子了吗？我赶紧要给你打电话","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80bae5a6179e78d3dcdc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qbb28ed10a67a0e8edb02","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":244,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T04:12:46.479Z","text":"这次自诉可能真的搞大了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q80bae5a6179e78d3dcdc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb28ed10a67a0e8edb02","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80bae5a6179e78d3dcdc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qcbb9e8b847f9709e8081","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":245,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-25T04:18:56.178Z","text":"共匪几千亿美元的案子。把造假做成了铁案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcbb9e8b847f9709e8081","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q7fac5d3fb005f0305f4d","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":246,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-25T04:19:01.999Z","text":"https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/united-states-v-ho-wan-kwok-aka-miles-guo-and-kin-ming-je-aka-william-je","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7fac5d3fb005f0305f4d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q7ecb9e8c1f121a8db7ac","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":247,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-25T04:19:19.208Z","text":"f you are a victim of Miles Guo and his associates, and would like to send the Judge presiding over this case a victim impact statement, which describes how this crime impacted you and your family, your statement can be emailed to [删节：隐私信息].\n\nIf you are a victim of Miles Guo and his associates, and would like to speak at Miles Guo’s sentencing hearing, to describe to the Judge how Miles Guo’s crimes impacted you and your family please email [删节：隐私信息] by no later than April 22, 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reb***］  ［用户 joh***］  luc 摊上大事了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb8816dad032850f16534","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q895193c5bd09273fc516","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":257,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T04:57:23.234Z","text":"［用户 reb***］  ［用户 joh***］  破产案luc删除债权的 是几号文件知道吗","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q895193c5bd09273fc516","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q581bd83fcea91dcc2cad","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":258,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-25T05:04:25.690Z","text":"这个是5139，应该有好几个文件，找一找序号挨着的文件。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q895193c5bd09273fc516","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q581bd83fcea91dcc2cad","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q895193c5bd09273fc516","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q9d3f757a5a89255a1e72","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":259,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T05:06:21.481Z","text":"还有5220","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9d3f757a5a89255a1e72","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qdf79b26e9fa2ea6e6f71","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":260,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-04-25T05:12:54.681Z","text":"https://x.com/qiqi7877/status/2047905962414281130?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf79b26e9fa2ea6e6f71","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qcd2266f3c59e9fce8fb2","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":261,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-04-25T05:13:22.504Z","text":"搞吧，都去二巡，让坏蛋无处藏身","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd2266f3c59e9fce8fb2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q38002fdf4bf161346023","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":262,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T05:18:42.288Z","text":"还在这里放着","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38002fdf4bf161346023","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q973b6804d03260892444","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":263,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-25T05:28:08.277Z","text":"那个拱卒也没有千倍啊，可能10倍，朱莉娅是几百倍。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q38002fdf4bf161346023","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q973b6804d03260892444","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38002fdf4bf161346023","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q42c48f43f98c334d6511","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":264,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-25T05:32:17.781Z","text":"曼宁那个时候批准执行违反禁制令，债务人就有对质的权利，可能破产案很快就会被中止，不批准禁制令，不不让你证明债权虚假，才能把债务人陷在程序里。这应该才是这个操作的原因。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42c48f43f98c334d6511","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qa0b65f779ab4e49739e5","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":265,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T05:34:47.637Z","text":"就是破产案不让说话","edited":false,"reply_to":"q42c48f43f98c334d6511","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0b65f779ab4e49739e5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42c48f43f98c334d6511","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qcba62f4f0ea6e03062ee","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":266,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-25T05:40:33.451Z","text":"如果债务人不反复说债权人登记这个事情，可能没有人知道刑事案是怎么立起来的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcba62f4f0ea6e03062ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q88ac7e285ba530802dd7","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":267,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T05:45:54.710Z","text":"现在有一条路径 就是量刑后 等瑞恩的rule60d 开始 大家只要在刑事案有资产的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcba62f4f0ea6e03062ee","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q88ac7e285ba530802dd7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcba62f4f0ea6e03062ee","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qd3994ac902bde012842c","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":268,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T05:46:02.498Z","text":"都可以拿着luc和检方的协议","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3994ac902bde012842c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qd3bbba8d3f7ee60006ec","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":269,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T05:46:05.961Z","text":"去挤兑破产案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3bbba8d3f7ee60006ec","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qfbbb1ebcc6fda1fe882a","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":270,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T05:46:23.560Z","text":"要求luc因司法欺诈指控 暂停一切职务","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfbbb1ebcc6fda1fe882a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qcf8b60abfcf2e63ef8c0","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":271,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T05:46:39.324Z","text":"并且曼宁请解释 鼓动债权人登记是否违反禁止令","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf8b60abfcf2e63ef8c0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qfbf6d258f51be6bba7a5","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":272,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T05:46:48.225Z","text":"如果曼宁不给standing 继续上二巡","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfbf6d258f51be6bba7a5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qfb0251ca616e7b92e8f2","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":273,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T05:46:55.612Z","text":"从刑事案延伸到破产案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb0251ca616e7b92e8f2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qa102e7b3752f8bd91a86","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":274,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T05:49:52.560Z","text":"https://x.com/[删节：成员身份]/status/2047915577373827090?s=46","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa102e7b3752f8bd91a86","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qf6f7beb6041dd80b3b10","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":275,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T05:49:55.790Z","text":"我真的笑死","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6f7beb6041dd80b3b10","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q25188a0db72ede979272","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":276,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T05:50:43.812Z","text":"https://x.com/[删节：成员身份]/status/2047916167193632794?s=46","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q25188a0db72ede979272","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q9ae68f6f34467327cb80","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":277,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-25T05:56:12.168Z","text":"如果只是以有衡平利益的利益相关方介入，曼宁基本就会以节约司法资源为由，不予受理，应该让gclub等实体 的法人或者受益人来。如果已经量刑，受害者沦为普通债权人，也只能在承认luc的叙事，即G enterprise属于债务人下去主张权益。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd3994ac902bde012842c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ae68f6f34467327cb80","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3994ac902bde012842c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qe5ed7af6949247bb6569","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":278,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T05:56:50.942Z","text":"不是","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9ae68f6f34467327cb80","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5ed7af6949247bb6569","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ae68f6f34467327cb80","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qdaa985ac21b6595aa822","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":279,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T05:56:57.441Z","text":"和standing没关系","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdaa985ac21b6595aa822","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q73e13779aeb58c495c06","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":280,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T05:57:22.577Z","text":"曼宁不予受理 就可以强制令","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73e13779aeb58c495c06","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qbdd34ac6955a2ba26ccb","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":281,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T05:57:27.984Z","text":"luc司法欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbdd34ac6955a2ba26ccb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q09112c2568688f607491","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":282,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T05:57:35.333Z","text":"用的是曼宁管辖的内容","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q09112c2568688f607491","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qb46b4619357da44e65a0","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":283,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T05:57:43.976Z","text":"你曼宁不管不想干啥？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb46b4619357da44e65a0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q7a813ac774a86875f934","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":284,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T05:57:59.738Z","text":"我觉得量刑前大家就得去破产案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a813ac774a86875f934","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q386ca26d64a8f8d0953d","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":285,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-25T05:58:38.701Z","text":"那边还没有这边好打，不过有余力可以两边一起上。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7a813ac774a86875f934","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q386ca26d64a8f8d0953d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a813ac774a86875f934","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q80e997ff1bd25d877e0b","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":286,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T05:59:03.665Z","text":"我到时候让瑞恩去上破产庭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80e997ff1bd25d877e0b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qb8377ea4909c5a1883e3","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":287,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T05:59:30.668Z","text":"司法欺诈可以把luc在破产庭干的所有事情全部作废","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb8377ea4909c5a1883e3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q7048bbb5a9b0cbda30a8","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":288,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T05:59:42.181Z","text":"luc作废 毒树之国","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7048bbb5a9b0cbda30a8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qa3dec89d38f7bcf20887","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":289,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T05:59:49.430Z","text":"刑事案用到luc的全部作废","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa3dec89d38f7bcf20887","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q91dc60ffd06a2c4a7e1e","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":290,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T06:00:09.241Z","text":"这样 什么alter ego估计也没了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91dc60ffd06a2c4a7e1e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qecd43e93b1c36fcf1a14","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":291,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T06:01:38.554Z","text":"法庭可以控制检方 辩方 但控制不了第三方","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qecd43e93b1c36fcf1a14","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q33d609b8ad03098c8f9e","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":292,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-25T06:01:38.606Z","text":"那些现在只在破产案自诉的人，不知道什么来头。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q33d609b8ad03098c8f9e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qfc27945c7fa4f300bed3","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":293,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-25T06:03:28.237Z","text":"但破产案正确介入方式，不应该首先说债权金额虚假，而是那些人根本没资格登记债权人，lic也不能接受登记。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc27945c7fa4f300bed3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qedc28b84e871316520b2","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":294,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T06:04:01.886Z","text":"你只要刑事案有投资 引用luc和检方的协议 忘了哪个文件","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfc27945c7fa4f300bed3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qedc28b84e871316520b2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc27945c7fa4f300bed3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qfeb686af774add78caf9","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":295,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T06:04:13.246Z","text":"luc在刑事案的介入动议","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfeb686af774add78caf9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qeaf1001885add9142694","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":296,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T06:04:20.118Z","text":"你就有standing","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeaf1001885add9142694","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q6b05e9b2bcd421bc2695","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":297,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-25T06:06:32.353Z","text":"有空分析下那个文件，既然打luc，那个文件应该很有利用价值。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b05e9b2bcd421bc2695","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qa69fc7868129d31e46fa","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":298,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-25T06:09:30.269Z","text":"但有一个问题是，是我们知道那些人是为了配合luc主张g系列属于郭，采取以被骗为由登记债权。但我们没有证据。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfc27945c7fa4f300bed3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa69fc7868129d31e46fa","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc27945c7fa4f300bed3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q3ae0e31a6753b600cede","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":299,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T06:09:55.831Z","text":"啥证据？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa69fc7868129d31e46fa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ae0e31a6753b600cede","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa69fc7868129d31e46fa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q58754d207f6fcebd985b","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":300,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-25T06:10:00.167Z","text":"那些债权也可以理解为债务人本身就是借过它们钱。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58754d207f6fcebd985b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q2ccf7aeaf908d968fe44","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":301,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T06:10:07.586Z","text":"不是","edited":false,"reply_to":"q58754d207f6fcebd985b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ccf7aeaf908d968fe44","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58754d207f6fcebd985b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q7f1de1e3dda811446190","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":302,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T06:10:13.233Z","text":"不是这个角度","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f1de1e3dda811446190","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qd88e943be7f38012df28","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":303,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T06:10:31.111Z","text":"733指出的问题 是司法欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd88e943be7f38012df28","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qd891f856774eac3b40bb","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":304,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-25T06:10:33.887Z","text":"或者是替它们担保过然后有责任还钱。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd891f856774eac3b40bb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q8dffd856aabdc49b0fbf","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":305,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T06:10:37.109Z","text":"受托人诚信","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8dffd856aabdc49b0fbf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qe477fbc8f8b4d442e2e2","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":306,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T06:10:49.059Z","text":"检方隐匿证据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe477fbc8f8b4d442e2e2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q5cdb4d83865a9fa256c6","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":307,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T06:10:52.641Z","text":"受托人知情不报","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5cdb4d83865a9fa256c6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q1643f9a722b99ed2f45f","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":308,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T06:10:56.551Z","text":"三年来不纠正","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1643f9a722b99ed2f45f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qe20c3c69a27fee48da9a","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":309,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T06:11:09.597Z","text":"即使拱卒债权有可信的理由","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe20c3c69a27fee48da9a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q1b9548957d4d63d3ec25","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":310,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T06:11:14.124Z","text":"你现在说出来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b9548957d4d63d3ec25","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q9e9c4866a8b45523edc0","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":311,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T06:11:17.824Z","text":"那不是司法欺诈是什么","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e9c4866a8b45523edc0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q514c405e68d2372ba278","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":312,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T06:11:25.847Z","text":"被告关的时候怎么不熟","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q514c405e68d2372ba278","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q1fc8befec7d30a75730e","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":313,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T06:11:27.287Z","text":"说","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1fc8befec7d30a75730e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qb99922cd7facaf1097fd","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":314,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T06:11:59.445Z","text":"受托人诚信渣男 还想来抢我们钱 是不是脑子有问题？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb99922cd7facaf1097fd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qeb73868481e80485e9ba","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":315,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T06:12:10.383Z","text":"就这个角度 一打一个准","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb73868481e80485e9ba","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qf98c5fa4a3e29a6aced2","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":316,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T06:12:49.628Z","text":"要求作废破产案和刑事案的所有合同","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf98c5fa4a3e29a6aced2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qcd61318afc6367dca5a3","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":317,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T06:12:51.814Z","text":"作废luc","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd61318afc6367dca5a3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q234a5b196bbef3ba83ac","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":318,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-04-25T06:14:27.254Z","text":"是你写的吗？那个[删节：成员身份]是你？","edited":true,"reply_to":"q98055f101bbdee5b322b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q234a5b196bbef3ba83ac","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q98055f101bbdee5b322b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qfc05e60d54a646e6ddff","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":319,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-25T06:15:11.045Z","text":"可以尝试，不知曼宁会怎么判。就是债务人鼓动的那部分债权，你自己知道有问题还指控违反禁制令，但一直不积极审查，一直不去纠正。不知曼宁认为这个有多严重？是否严重到需要撤换？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8dffd856aabdc49b0fbf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc05e60d54a646e6ddff","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8dffd856aabdc49b0fbf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q1205addbfdeea91968bf","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":320,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T06:15:31.708Z","text":"你根本不用管曼宁怎么判","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfc05e60d54a646e6ddff","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1205addbfdeea91968bf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc05e60d54a646e6ddff","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q4b6c7236d8da4917608f","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":321,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T06:15:45.157Z","text":"二巡可是已经有刑事案司法欺诈了哦","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b6c7236d8da4917608f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qa82865e5f68945321eab","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":322,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T06:15:54.979Z","text":"曼宁的领导是同一拨人哦","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa82865e5f68945321eab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q3193b555e05a19a025de","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":323,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T06:16:37.318Z","text":"破产案也可以强制令的呦","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3193b555e05a19a025de","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q352684ebe6ff969fac0e","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":324,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-25T06:18:16.980Z","text":"肯定是加分项，也能施加压力。这个可以去破破产案的一言堂，至少很有戏份。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1205addbfdeea91968bf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q352684ebe6ff969fac0e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1205addbfdeea91968bf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q520e5d6efd2655b2fb63","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":325,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-04-25T06:19:51.536Z","text":"投资者可以介入破产案发邮件！？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3193b555e05a19a025de","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q520e5d6efd2655b2fb63","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3193b555e05a19a025de","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qa7f041519ca835ace269","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":326,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-25T06:20:04.936Z","text":"那边只能邮寄。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q520e5d6efd2655b2fb63","reply_status":"available","has_attachment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joh***］ 这个打法 打废一切郭文贵有关的所有案件","edited":true,"reply_to":"q0863e37619bebe0cc8b9","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30d9ac954bb4e5a9e812","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q0310cb5566a5ce7f7906","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":329,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-25T06:21:06.661Z","text":"我曾经发邮件告诉它们我举报了它们，它们回复说不受理电子邮件，有什么问题邮寄过来。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0310cb5566a5ce7f7906","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qb9da508659f11f6e4177","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":330,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T06:21:17.759Z","text":"？你举报谁了哈哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0310cb5566a5ce7f7906","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9da508659f11f6e4177","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0310cb5566a5ce7f7906","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q2883096d11b53d0a9397","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":331,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-25T06:21:40.089Z","text":"就是举报康州破产法院和纽约南区法院。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb9da508659f11f6e4177","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2883096d11b53d0a9397","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9da508659f11f6e4177","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qf90c55451e97be106006","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":332,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-25T06:23:09.482Z","text":"我把举报它们这个事情告诉它们，说我举报你们了，告知你们一声。发南区自诉邮箱，抄送康州破产法院邮箱。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf90c55451e97be106006","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q781ccd1291db2b60ca17","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":333,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-25T06:24:58.868Z","text":"它们跟政府合起伙来抢我钱，当然得举报。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa1ed7b0ff16a42585fbb","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q781ccd1291db2b60ca17","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q51a13c33b8b1910573dd","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":334,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T06:25:37.902Z","text":"我到现在还没举报过任何人 我很nice的呦","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51a13c33b8b1910573dd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q880e1b8c785935cf50c6","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":335,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-25T06:26:42.147Z","text":"我也举报了luc和南区办案人员，只有对luc的举报收到了自动回复。对政府的举报，要么邮箱满了，要么邮箱无效，网页也无效，就没有一个成功的。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q880e1b8c785935cf50c6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q32628bb902e37469eeda","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":336,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-25T06:31:23.366Z","text":"我对曼宁，可能没有做对。可能应该先去交涉一下，再举报。我没有去交涉就直接举报了。原因就是没有确认g系列里的钱就是债务人的钱的情况下，允许luc花这些钱，花了6000多万。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32628bb902e37469eeda","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q3d7483742018d893e1ff","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":337,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-25T08:52:48.830Z","text":"被青忽悠 不要做刑事案受害者\n只在破产案要钱\n其实屁用都没有","edited":false,"reply_to":"q33d609b8ad03098c8f9e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d7483742018d893e1ff","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q33d609b8ad03098c8f9e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q274252f043e2346ec3d2","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":338,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-04-25T08:54:39.908Z","text":"二巡为什么就非得纸质邮寄呢。。。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0310cb5566a5ce7f7906","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q274252f043e2346ec3d2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0310cb5566a5ce7f7906","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q87c142abeee716329422","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":339,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-04-25T08:56:33.892Z","text":"冻结的钱，他们就敢提前花了。\n中国司法都不会这样吧。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q32628bb902e37469eeda","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87c142abeee716329422","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32628bb902e37469eeda","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q6e5b24f8d3c001df39f1","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":340,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-25T09:10:53.780Z","text":"1800破产案债权人\n6000喜交所客户\n醒过来的 都可以去发发邮件 陪luc玩儿\n破产案和刑事案 分开发","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc48c660297e3cc5c1714","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e5b24f8d3c001df39f1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qc0631bee7c71b3b933b6","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":341,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-25T09:35:15.550Z","text":"在抓捕之前，钱已经被陆续冻结，然后luc和南区检方达成协议各自扣押一部分。luc花钱的依据g系列属于债务人。没有破产法庭确认所有权它luc在程序上能做到，是因为luc通过低门槛“证据”获得“临时扣押”权，然后申请调查费用开支曼宁不管它到哪里去开支，曼宁知道它用的是g系列实体银行账户上的钱，它就是不管。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q87c142abeee716329422","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0631bee7c71b3b933b6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87c142abeee716329422","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q13c9d5c6c1a31c9ff0be","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":342,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-25T09:46:42.397Z","text":"那些[屏蔽词]，还想没收gtv，那些在起诉之前都已经退款的，要怎么算，luc还要去追回来，说这是债务人的钱？退回来后当普通债权人。越想这个事，越觉得是美国的耻辱。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13c9d5c6c1a31c9ff0be","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qbd061571f065b53a6ff9","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":343,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-04-25T10:10:21.220Z","text":"https://x.com/rockpanshi/status/2047956224927244489/video/1?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbd061571f065b53a6ff9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q8284e32d93d3f29a74d6","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":344,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-25T10:24:10.486Z","text":"这就是为什么GTV退款 通过张永兵的 还没有弄好\n因为张知道GTV会被刑事案没收 再到破产案luc那儿 最终给到优先债权人 PAX 美国小李 火来 都是他们自己人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q13c9d5c6c1a31c9ff0be","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8284e32d93d3f29a74d6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13c9d5c6c1a31c9ff0be","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qd627dd351a0452d2488e","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":345,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-04-25T10:24:54.991Z","text":"所以有没有办法让SEC退款，我已经要了几年了都不退","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd627dd351a0452d2488e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q8053e78d871906fb02ca","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":346,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-25T10:26:03.372Z","text":"直接找sec都不退？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd627dd351a0452d2488e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8053e78d871906fb02ca","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd627dd351a0452d2488e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qc6fcd688c00d53212faf","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":347,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-04-25T10:26:26.858Z","text":"无数次，也投诉了，没用，就是不退","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6fcd688c00d53212faf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q0f8bceb677e12ea0f843","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":348,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-25T10:27:06.815Z","text":"那那些直接找sec退成功的，难道是假的？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc6fcd688c00d53212faf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f8bceb677e12ea0f843","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6fcd688c00d53212faf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q3447985c517eb4a8c7c3","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":349,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-04-25T10:27:38.113Z","text":"只要委托张永兵的，都退不到，退自己卡的早拿到了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3447985c517eb4a8c7c3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q5223656bce16d6ebc704","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":350,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-04-25T10:27:54.658Z","text":"这里张永兵他们一定卡着，有原因的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5223656bce16d6ebc704","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qcc3ea560989fd1acb610","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":351,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-25T10:31:56.699Z","text":"退到张永兵那里的，唉，可能被告无罪后都还要打一段时间官司才能拿到。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc3ea560989fd1acb610","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qa3688f7ec9a2afb43b51","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":352,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-25T10:35:08.231Z","text":"张永兵那里的钱，一顿表演后，成了替债务人欺诈转移，帮被告洗钱。然后gtv投资者是普通债权人，钱被pax等虚假债权瓜分。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa3688f7ec9a2afb43b51","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qf6a2d68afef1555ba989","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":353,"speaker":"Sap***","date":"2026-04-25T10:52:12.550Z","text":"很遗憾，用户 [删节：隐私信息] 离开了 **郭文贵法庭文件，不禁言不删帖**。希望他一路好走。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6a2d68afef1555ba989","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q65863b4050aa0436ca99","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":354,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-04-25T11:23:53.023Z","text":"新华新闻，一千多万粉丝。牛逼！是不是买的啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65863b4050aa0436ca99","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qb65da13a38f4534b31ef","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":355,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-25T11:44:34.928Z","text":"尊敬的黄河边先生，我得批评一下你呀。你对老郭这个案件，就没有花时间。你几乎从来没有花时间看过这些法庭文件。你最多是看完“哎呀，哪个文件、哪个文件”，但你没有动过脑子。\n \n你看看你在那儿质疑：“哎呀，不是，我们就是受害者，对吧？”那几个受害者干的是受害者的事情吗？对吧？你在那儿说，你说得对不对？对呀，我也没说你说得不对呀，你光说我有啥用啊？你不看看法庭上其他人？那个盖尔正常吗？受托人卢克正常吗？检方正常吗？辩护律师正常吗？托雷斯法官正常吗？\n \n一个法庭上就没有一个正常人，包括郭文贵本人。郭文贵就是最大的神经病。我这是很客观的评价啊，不是说我向着老郭，不是的。郭文贵就是个神经病。这法庭上说句难听的，全不正常，没有一个正常人啊。\n \n法庭上其他人不正常，你不谈啊。你看我不正常，你攻击我啊；你看着自诉人不正常，你在这儿说自诉人的坏话。😀\n \n你咋不说法官呢？你咋不说检方啊？卢克、盖尔，还有数字银行的代理律师盖曼，对吧？这几个最大的第三方，一个盖尔代表了6000多人，一个卢克代表了一千多，这群人还有一个数字银行，对吧？代表了好几百个数字银行投资者，还代表着喜交所，代表着汉密尔顿，还代表着谁呀？就是三个共谋实体，对吧？他还代表着于建明儿。这是严重的利益冲突啊，又代表着被告儿，又代表着受害者。\n \n因为853那个，说句难听的，那就是受害者嘛；数字银行那就是受害者呀。在法律结构里边儿，他又代表受害者，又代表被告儿，这就是神经病。\n \n你装看不见。不但你装看不见，检方装看不见，辩护律师装看不见，法官也装看不见，啥事儿没有。你说我不正常？你这怎么说来着？你这是选择性，对吧？选择性攻击呀，你。\n \n我至少花时间了解这个案件了啊。为什么案件走到今天？为什么我成了受害者？我已经解释得很清楚了。\n \n我一开始也是被联盟农场洗脑呀，我也不想当受害者呀。我在法庭文件里还在那儿喊呢，我在网上还在喊：我绝对不当受害者，死也不当受害者。当时我就是这么说的吧？\n \n托雷斯法官下的528命令，你去看看去，528怎么说我的。说这个家伙在那喊着绝对不当受害者，对吧？然后把我的东西给我驳回。\n \n我还不想当受害者，我说我当被告儿行不行？你既然说受害者不是受害者不行，我想我还可以当被告儿啊。检方不是说还有些人参与了共谋吗？其实我没参与共谋，对吧？你要是非得说，我也可以说我参与了共谋。为什么？因为我也给别人介绍过郭文贵呀，对不对？我给几个人也介绍过。那我就承认吧，我参与了共谋，我想当被告儿行不行啊？我当了被告儿不就成了当事人了吗？\n \n就这也不行，托雷斯法官给我打回来。😀\n \n那我就没得选了，我必须得说话呀。我在国内呢，你不让我说话，我面临风险，对不对？我留在法庭上出庭，相关方还有个政治，还有这个法庭身份的庇护。你托雷斯法官还真给我下了禁令，那共产党抓起我来，弄死我了，就没人管了。\n \n所以说，当时528命令啊，包括596命令，在我眼里，托雷斯法官是在威胁我啊。托雷斯法官还说我威胁别人儿。我一个打螺丝的，我根本就没有资格威胁别人，我也威胁不了别人儿。但是法官你给我下达了两个命令，你确确实实威胁我了。我认为这是对我的严重威胁，知道吧？\n \n所以我没办法了。为了能够继续说话，我就只能认怂了，我当受害者吧。因为在这个案件、这个法律结构当中，投资者就是受害者。那我就只能当受害者了，我没办法，我没得选了。\n \n虽然说我当了受害者，但是这也是我的合法权利啊。你法庭上其他那些人，不能抢我的钱了。我不要钱。听清楚，我从来没说过我要钱，但是我反对其他抢我钱的人，对吧。\n \n真正的受害者，你可以来抢钱，你可以来分钱，没问题，我不反对。但是盖尔你代表的6000多人不行啊；卢克代表的1000多债权人不行啊；盖曼代表的数字银行几百人不行啊；包括后来经过联盟农场、青藤这个小头子鼓动，给检方发去的几百份请愿，那个也不行。\n \n因为那是联盟农场鼓动的，是共谋犯、是诈骗犯鼓动操控的，知道吧？这个渠道程序不正义，我反对这些。\n \n如果你主动，像我一样公开主动承认，跟联盟农场没有关系，你完全承认你是受害者，没问题，你可以要钱，我支持你。所有经过联盟农场、农场鼓动，经过联盟农场的手污染的这些人，我全部反对。😬\n \n你听明白了吗？黄河边先生？我在反对这些第三方的同时，我把检方一块儿拉进来。\n \n这个东西，检方有调查资源的，对吧？FBI听你的，警察局听你的，你都调查这案子这么多年了。你没事儿，还拿联盟农场的东西来反对郭文贵，对吧？保释之类的啊，反对郭文贵延期，你都把联盟农场这些东西拿出来，什么意思？\n \n就是你检方一直在盯着联盟。但是你盯着这个东西，你得全盯着啊。对吧？那联盟农场说郭文贵打电话了，去见郭文贵了，这东西是真是假，检方比谁都清楚啊。对不对？你政府比谁都清楚啊。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb65da13a38f4534b31ef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qcda5ebe343522089af89","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":356,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-25T11:44:47.401Z","text":"郭文贵有没有给别人打电话，他们有没有去见面儿，我不知道，但是检方知道。对不对？那这6000多是咋来的？检方应该是知情的啊。你在这儿装看不见，那我就指控你检方违规。😬\n \n你听明白了吗？黄河边先生，你要花点儿时间。你既然砸郭，你就专业一些，知道吧？你要花时间研究研究这个案子。\n \n这法庭上这些人，他们都跟神经病一样。为啥不正常啊？那盖尔代表的6000多人还在那儿喊呢：“不是受害者，不是受害者。”到最后干了啥呀？引用853加入程序减免，对吧？Remission是什么？程序减免。程序减免就是受害者呀。\n \n这盖尔就把这6000多人弄成合法的受害者了，然后他还在那儿喊呢：“这6000多人不是受害者。”一个盖尔这个神经病，你不去攻击一下啊？你在这儿找我的麻烦有什么用啊？我就一个人儿，那盖尔后边儿可是6000多人呢。\n \n那盖尔不是诈骗吗？喊的不是受害者，结果到最后去参加remission，就是参加程序减免。那个程序减免就是检方的程序啊，只有受害者才参加那个程序呢。就是盖尔把这6000多人已经当成合法的受害者送给检方了。😀\n \n你听懂了吗，黄河边先生？这就是为什么检方说“仍然是合格受害者”，对吧？为什么辩护律师反对说盖尔这6000多人不能当受害者呀？就是因为盖尔的行为，让检方把这6000多人当成了合法的受害者。\n \n你明白了吗？黄河边先生，请你砸郭也要专业一些。请你解读这个案件的时候，拿出一点专业精神来，多花点儿时间。\n \n你不要觉得我不正常，对吧？我不正常，其他自诉人不正常，瑞恩不正常，知道吧？我们当然不正常，我也知道不正常。但不是我先不正常的，是这个案子先不正常的，是法庭的其他所有人都不正常。他们不正常，我凭啥正常呀？连法官都不正常，我凭啥正常呀？\n \n我只是按照他们的逻辑在干他们的事情，你听明白了没有啊？我是按照他们的规则来参与这个案件。你别管我正常不正常，你这么玩儿，我就这么玩儿，我操。😀\n \n我这是给你提个忠诚的建议啊，黄河边先生。我建议你啊，现在机器人这么发达，我建议你让机器人多分析分析案件。你在砸郭的时候有点儿水平，知道吧？\n \n其实我根本就瞧不上你。在我眼里，你水平根本就不够。但是呢，你比联盟农场那些共谋犯、那些管理层，比那些[屏蔽词]强多了。你比他们高尚，所以我挺尊重你的啊。\n \n我尊重你并不代表你水平高啊。你的水平啊，还不如我这个打螺丝的强呢。这是我的真心话啊。但是你的人格水平，比联盟农场、比青藤、长岛，比什么Ava，比什么火来、佳佳，你比他们强一万倍。\n \n【齐春宏 (螺丝哥，Chunk Chyi) 】\n2026.04.22","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcda5ebe343522089af89","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q8c655c3fc8165833c19a","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":357,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-04-25T11:44:59.304Z","text":"https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TEb9eosqQxc","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c655c3fc8165833c19a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qd1c0ec9b8fdd80b1c61a","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":358,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-25T11:54:08.461Z","text":"⸻\n\n概文（核心摘要）\n\n这份语音记录本质上是一段带有强烈批评与辩护意味的立场陈述，核心围绕三个层面展开：\n\n⸻\n\n一、对“黄河边”的核心批评：不专业、选择性攻击\n\n作者首先直接指出：\n\n* 对方没有真正研究法庭文件\n* 只是停留在表面观点（“哪个文件哪个文件”），缺乏独立分析\n* 在讨论案件时存在选择性批评：\n    * 只攻击个别自诉人\n    * 却回避更关键的角色（法官、检方、受托人、代理律师）\n\n👉 核心指控：\n你不是在分析案件，而是在带立场攻击。\n\n⸻\n\n二、对整个案件结构的判断：系统性“非正常”\n\n作者提出一个极端但贯穿全文的判断：\n\n整个案件体系本身就是不正常的\n\n具体表现为：\n\n1. 角色混乱与利益冲突\n\n* 第三方（如盖尔、卢克、数字银行代理人等）：\n    * 同时代表受害者、债权人、甚至关联被告利益\n* 形成严重的：\n    * 身份重叠\n    * 利益冲突\n    * 法律结构混乱\n\n👉 核心结论：\n法律结构本身已经失真\n\n⸻\n\n2. “受害者身份”的悖论\n\n作者重点攻击：\n\n* 一些群体一边否认自己是受害者\n* 一边又参与 remission（程序减免）\n\n而根据制度：\n\n只有受害者才有资格参与remission\n\n👉 因此他认为：\n\n* 这些人实际上已被认定为受害者\n* 但却在舆论中否认这一点 → 构成“逻辑欺骗”\n\n⸻\n\n3. 对检方的质疑\n\n作者认为检方：\n\n* 明知联盟农场的情况\n* 却：\n    * 选择性使用相关材料\n    * 未对关键问题彻查（如“6000人来源”）\n\n👉 指控方向：\n\n检方存在选择性执法甚至程序不正义\n\n⸻\n\n三、作者自身立场：被动成为“受害者”\n\n这一部分是全文的核心心理逻辑：\n\n1. 身份转变过程\n\n作者经历了三个阶段：\n\n1. 最初：\n    * 坚决拒绝当受害者\n2. 中间尝试：\n    * 甚至愿意“当被告”以获得当事人资格\n3. 最终：\n    * 被制度“逼迫”接受受害者身份\n\n👉 结论：\n\n成为受害者不是选择，而是法律结构逼迫的结果\n\n⸻\n\n2. 对法官命令的感受\n\n作者认为：\n\n* 528、596 命令对其构成现实威胁\n* 尤其涉及：\n    * 言论限制\n    * 安全风险（特别提及中国环境）\n\n👉 核心表达：\n\n法庭不仅未保护，反而让其处于危险之中\n\n⸻\n\n3. 关于“钱”的立场\n\n非常关键的一点：\n\n* 作者明确表示：\n    * 自己不要钱\n    * 但反对：\n        * “不正当的人来分钱”\n\n👉 标准：\n\n* 支持真正受害者索赔\n* 反对：\n    * 联盟农场相关人员\n    * 被“污染”的渠道参与者\n\n⸻\n\n四、对“联盟农场体系”的全面否定\n\n作者态度非常明确：\n\n* 认为其为：\n    * 共谋体系\n    * 操控舆论与程序的力量\n* 所有：\n    * 经其组织、动员、影响的索赔行为\n        → 都被视为不正当\n\n⸻\n\n五、核心逻辑总结（最关键一句话）\n\n如果把全文压缩成一句话：\n\n这是一个结构失序的案件，所有角色都在错位运作，而我只是被迫按照这套扭曲规则生存与发声。\n\n⸻\n\n六、结尾态度：批评 + 保留尊重\n\n作者最后给出一个“复杂态度”：\n\n* 一方面：\n    * 认为对方水平不够\n* 另一方面：\n    * 仍认可其人格高于某些群体（联盟农场相关人）\n\n👉 本质是：\n\n否定能力，但保留道德评价空间","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb65da13a38f4534b31ef","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1c0ec9b8fdd80b1c61a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb65da13a38f4534b31ef","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q08d452cd76f039a12069","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":359,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-25T12:01:02.615Z","text":"闻风丧胆！","edited":false,"reply_to":"q80e997ff1bd25d877e0b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08d452cd76f039a12069","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80e997ff1bd25d877e0b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q6da621be61b44cf4edcf","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":360,"speaker":"lem***","date":"2026-04-25T12:15:11.232Z","text":"https://x.com/mubeitech/status/2047762486691066092?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6da621be61b44cf4edcf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q7b50d0eed93dc77f6ef0","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":361,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-25T12:21:28.726Z","text":"这个截图绝对值得保存","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b50d0eed93dc77f6ef0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qa769d144864229949a99","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":362,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-25T13:06:36.605Z","text":"一句话，郭是百年难遇的骗子，被他忽悠的人都是执迷不悟的[屏蔽词]邪教徒，想救他们的人反倒会被他们敲闷棍，这不还是妥妥的砸郭吗？","edited":true,"reply_to":"q27e114c563e56103a0a0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa769d144864229949a99","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27e114c563e56103a0a0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qdaf78d090dffb90b0ce3","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":363,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T13:07:06.135Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa769d144864229949a99","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdaf78d090dffb90b0ce3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa769d144864229949a99","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qef04a98b43d03e19c30a","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":364,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-25T13:09:57.767Z","text":"二巡还装死就不合适了吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q08f4c908909656083b50","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef04a98b43d03e19c30a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08f4c908909656083b50","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qac195c9bfa98bb508c4f","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":365,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-25T13:10:42.862Z","text":"明砸暗挺？不太像","edited":false,"reply_to":"q71a6a05e08d460cdc974","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qac195c9bfa98bb508c4f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71a6a05e08d460cdc974","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q05ca82315a98265fe6d0","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":366,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-25T13:11:50.454Z","text":"他说的算是比较中性，骂也没有骂的一文不值，几句带过。前面的动议讲的算是很仔细了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q99a94b82bcce3a0e458e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05ca82315a98265fe6d0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99a94b82bcce3a0e458e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q2b8e6dc70598dcb57882","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":367,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T13:12:14.520Z","text":"对的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q05ca82315a98265fe6d0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b8e6dc70598dcb57882","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05ca82315a98265fe6d0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q6d057aab46b8812ab31e","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":368,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-25T13:13:27.085Z","text":"833都贴照片了，还不赶紧划清界限","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcbb97e45e70f2a0f7880","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d057aab46b8812ab31e","reply_url":"htt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很好","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11a67b1662651a339540","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q78a661cd26d6de3ba969","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":372,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-25T13:26:25.269Z","text":"怎么样可以看到我的. DktEntry号呢？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78a661cd26d6de3ba969","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q4c5014e3eb19fe727cea","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":373,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-25T13:28:14.934Z","text":"你们这些字 Case: 25-2726, 03/16/2026, DktEntry: 38.1, Page 2 of 54  是怎么贴上去的？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c5014e3eb19fe727cea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q511b8825f30892182b14","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":374,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-25T13:30:24.119Z","text":"你南区上传的那个就可以看到吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q78a661cd26d6de3ba969","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q511b8825f30892182b14","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78a661cd26d6de3ba969","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q4e6ae755a3df61d7133a","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":375,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-25T13:50:23.992Z","text":"不管怎么骂鸟 骂青 \n盖尔始终是安小东的爹 从没变过\nhttps://x.com/anxiaodong777/status/2047925529467118039?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e6ae755a3df61d7133a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q4ab6e36d5ca6b72cbf42","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":376,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-25T13:55:34.386Z","text":"羊帮的动向 明确了\n和安小东 乱码妹一样 全力卖青\n配合第三梯队 屁酱周喆上位\nhttps://x.com/kk26400689/status/2047981243623416190?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ab6e36d5ca6b72cbf42","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qd58cb729718cdc55ed9f","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":377,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-25T14:17:50.204Z","text":"好多人已经退完了啊","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc6fcd688c00d53212faf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd58cb729718cdc55ed9f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6fcd688c00d53212faf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q0cb4511c1c301326ae9f","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":378,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-25T14:20:58.797Z","text":"在pacer上注册，老是收不到邮箱验证码","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0cb4511c1c301326ae9f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qf9c1fb3873dc5c6a1135","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":379,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-25T14:25:15.288Z","text":"这个49星球 感觉脑回路挺奇特🤣 \nhttps://x.com/star49_nfsc/status/2048033203131470055?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9c1fb3873dc5c6a1135","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q0f8f5051ddba8886c071","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":380,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-25T14:28:43.005Z","text":"乱码妹带的风向是，受害者就是害郭，是郭的对立面。\n还是那句话 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Percy不是一般人啊，小时候住后海附近，卧虎藏龙啊\n最近几次还能回国，之前最早和阿炳屁酱在什么“北京菇凉聊天室”\n现在明着砸郭，但是作为第三梯队的屁酱，对percy硬是一个屁都不敢放，更不敢谈\n说明percy比屁酱，高了很多个级别啊，失敬失敬\nhttps://x.com/percy43508644/status/2047326632977863032?s=46","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q044c5972cd4ab6fd11cf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q9591f4a7b1bf1cc2de53","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":397,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-25T15:14:59.306Z","text":"我想要注册PACER老是收不到邮箱 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