{"id":"batch-000105","number":105,"revision":2,"date_start":"2026-04-24T22:11:34.133Z","date_end":"2026-04-26T15:22:48.101Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 105 (Apr 24, 2026 – Apr 26, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. From Apr 24 to Apr 26, 2026, discussion centered on appellate procedure and narrative framing. Participants argued about whether second-review filings should continue into the Southern District and whether exhibits, including 853n, should enter the record, with delay seen as either attachment extension or case-end signal. They also disputed victim versus creditor status, fund-flow and loss attribution, and evidence-control concerns, while invoking Rule 60d, Fatico, Brady, Rico, and 716-4 without treating them as verified court findings. Community statements, not court findings.","guide_en":[{"title":"Whether second-review filing should proceed before syncing to the Southern District","description":"Participants argued about whether a second-review filing was already in place and whether that record should be synced to the Southern District as part of the next procedural step. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q58200d8e12a9219b76e1","q61f0100d76634d769155","q07ea63cffcfa70987498"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q58200d8e12a9219b76e1","summary_en":"roy*** asked whether case 838 had already been filed in second review. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q61f0100d76634d769155","summary_en":"kir*** replied that they had not found confirmation. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q07ea63cffcfa70987498","summary_en":"ntp*** said their materials were sent to the Southern District and asked whether he was also required to upload the motion there. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Dispute over whether attachments and the 853n motion are filed in the record and aligned with Southern District materials","description":"Participants contended that attachments should be treated as investment proof, while disagreeing over whether the 853n motion and related filing were actually entered in the appellate record. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qaa82d7b636bc00bb5a17","q2498794979cbcc474b80","qf14b73bca6eddcc7b345"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qaa82d7b636bc00bb5a17","summary_en":"him*** said the attachments represented his investment evidence. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q2498794979cbcc474b80","summary_en":"ntp*** questioned whether a motion of that type could be filed in second review. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf14b73bca6eddcc7b345","summary_en":"him*** argued that 853n had not been placed in the record. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Narrative shift from \"Guo fraud\" to conspiracy and judicial narrative claims","description":"Participants argued that the case framing was moving from a single-person accusation to a broader conspiracy and alliance frame, while treating that shift as contested rather than settled. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q913031dd63aed64d9595","qcbf9f98a313f5290adc0","q2990caa43ef3c9ea6580"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q913031dd63aed64d9595","summary_en":"him*** noted that the case seemed to be turning. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qcbf9f98a313f5290adc0","summary_en":"him*** suggested reframing from \"Guo fraud\" to \"alliance fraud.\" Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q2990caa43ef3c9ea6580","summary_en":"ntp*** said the turn was also seen as a move against the alliance. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Whether post-delay proceedings mean resentencing or case closure","description":"Participants disputed whether delays were meant to preserve leverage in the criminal case or signal that the matter had effectively concluded. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q75f82c57adcd334ca060","q489907c08f8d4816f6f5","q37b94c969da8c16d2d4c"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q75f82c57adcd334ca060","summary_en":"ntp*** asked what the proceeding would do over the next two months and whether the Master would be released. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q489907c08f8d4816f6f5","summary_en":"ntp*** claimed the current extensions were being used to increase attachment time. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q37b94c969da8c16d2d4c","summary_en":"him*** asserted that the case was finished. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Attorney, self-prosecution, and pro se route","description":"Participants contended over legal representation, with some urging a lawyer and others highlighting cost limits and the possible pro se route. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q35c03faa587ab5b86f6c","q7a30020bd72246a7bc00","qd226d554770ad6a456c4"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q35c03faa587ab5b86f6c","summary_en":"him*** advised finding a reliable lawyer and avoiding Chinese-language counsel. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q7a30020bd72246a7bc00","summary_en":"ntp*** said counsel was still needed but unaffordable. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qd226d554770ad6a456c4","summary_en":"him*** then suggested proceeding pro se as an alternative. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Whether third-wave warrants/ enforcement motions are a key turning point","description":"Participants disputed if there was a new filing stage, with some tying it to the filing status and others seeing the shift to a third-wave enforcement cycle as decisive. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q988edad6108631103737","q198f4b895862844787c3","q6197b8853004ef66f5ce"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q988edad6108631103737","summary_en":"kir*** referred to a filing step in the ongoing process. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q198f4b895862844787c3","summary_en":"beg*** said he contacted second review about materials not being returned and pointed to possible identity-related privacy constraints, then urged calling second review for records. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q6197b8853004ef66f5ce","summary_en":"kir*** stated that a third-wave shift was coming. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Whether livestreams and social-media threat posts count as evidence or media confrontation","description":"Participants disputed the evidentiary value of livestream and social-media content, with one side treating it as rumor or coercive theater and the other reading it as case-linked behavior. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q8bf99930ac3fbc6880dc","q172390a311be71bb605d","q7865110bb04d0a778ebc"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q8bf99930ac3fbc6880dc","summary_en":"kir*** dismissed some posts as repeating hearsay. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q172390a311be71bb605d","summary_en":"nev*** reported claims that someone publicly flaunted Guo being neatly prepared for courtroom release. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q7865110bb04d0a778ebc","summary_en":"him*** said discussions repeatedly ended up attributing everything to Guo. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Victim and creditor qualification and party positioning","description":"Participants contested who should be treated as a victim versus a creditor, and where the practical litigation route should be pursued. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q3d7483742018d893e1ff","q6e5b24f8d3c001df39f1","q9ae68f6f34467327cb80"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q3d7483742018d893e1ff","summary_en":"joh*** warned people not to rely on criminal-case victim status and said bankruptcy-only claims may be ineffective. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q6e5b24f8d3c001df39f1","summary_en":"joh*** contrasted 1,800 bankruptcy creditors with 6,000 exchange customers, advised separating bankruptcy from criminal matters, and urged communication from awakened participants. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q9ae68f6f34467327cb80","summary_en":"reb*** contended that if only equitable-interest actors intervene, the court may defer on resource grounds, leaving entities like gclub beneficiaries, and that once sentenced victims may be treated as ordinary creditors under the luc narrative. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Whether the funding chain and loss attribution are settled as a core conviction issue","description":"Participants disputed the money trail and whether loss allocation was clear, including recipient identity and currency conversion mechanics, while rejecting some speculative intermediary theories. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q3e4b4f3268f471598347","q3117e1085543409ab6b8","q380661b7b6507dd1c285"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q3e4b4f3268f471598347","summary_en":"spr*** asked whether another person was a collector in the same role as the speaker. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q3117e1085543409ab6b8","summary_en":"kir*** asked who she used to convert RMB into USD after receiving it. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q380661b7b6507dd1c285","summary_en":"ntp*** argued it was unnecessary to assume a scalper arrangement. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Whether prosecution and trustee concealed evidence or failed in duty","description":"Participants disputed accountability claims against the trustee and prosecution, arguing that courts have direct leverage over parties but limited control over third parties. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qecd43e93b1c36fcf1a14","q8dffd856aabdc49b0fbf","q1643f9a722b99ed2f45f"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qecd43e93b1c36fcf1a14","summary_en":"kir*** said courts can control prosecutors and defense but not third parties. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q8dffd856aabdc49b0fbf","summary_en":"kir*** invoked trustee good faith or integrity concerns. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q1643f9a722b99ed2f45f","summary_en":"kir*** argued that corrective action had not been taken for three years. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Criminal-case and bankruptcy-process linkage, and asset and refund-traceability differences","description":"Participants disputed a post-sentencing path through Rule 60d that uses criminal-case assets and agreements, while also contesting how refunds should be treated in bankruptcy claims. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q88ac7e285ba530802dd7","qd3994ac902bde012842c","q13c9d5c6c1a31c9ff0be"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q88ac7e285ba530802dd7","summary_en":"kir*** described a path where after sentencing, Ryan Rule60d begins and any party with criminal-case assets could act. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qd3994ac902bde012842c","summary_en":"kir*** added that parties could rely on luc and the prosecution agreement. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q13c9d5c6c1a31c9ff0be","summary_en":"reb*** questioned whether refunds made before filing, including potential GTV-related seizures, should be reclaimed as debtor funds and then treated as ordinary-creditor claims. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Procedural and evidence-level judicial injustice debate: Fatico, Brady, and witness admissibility","description":"Participants disputed judicial-integrity claims centered on the money-flow model, alleged misleading FBI testimony, and use of witness evidence tied to Fatico, Brady, and Rico arguments. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q43f86aea2e966b601d96","qee1a737d3e0becdf621e","qfdb700c95a71e37f2602"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q43f86aea2e966b601d96","summary_en":"kir*** said the FBI expert cash-in/cash-out model was disrupted by 716-4. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qee1a737d3e0becdf621e","summary_en":"kir*** questioned how the prosecution could allow an FBI witness to mislead the jury. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qfdb700c95a71e37f2602","summary_en":"kir*** attributed the Rico issue to problematic witness testimony. Community statements, not court findings."}]}],"summary":"讨论在程序与叙事两线并行：对二审处理路径争议最集中的包括先立案后是否向南区同步上传、附件/853n及动议是否入卷、第三波催办是否触发核验。另有大量争论集中在资金链与loss归责、受害者与债权人资格、检方与受托人是否隐匿或失责。叙事从“郭诈骗”扩展到共谋、司法欺诈和政治介入，但多方也提醒目前仍有大量推测。关于后续路径，成员在律师自诉、是否并行推进破产、上诉时机上反复对立。直播、社媒威胁帖和删帖行为被部分人视为舆论压力依据，也被另一部分质疑为非可信证据，整体未形成统一结论，只在程序正当性与可核验材料边界上持续博弈。","guide":[{"title":"二审先立案后同步到南区是否应持续执行","message_ids":["q58200d8e12a9219b76e1","q61f0100d76634d769155","q07ea63cffcfa70987498"]},{"title":"附件及853n动议是否入卷、与南区材料一致性争议","message_ids":["qaa82d7b636bc00bb5a17","q2498794979cbcc474b80","qf14b73bca6eddcc7b345"]},{"title":"叙事焦点从“郭诈骗”转向共谋与司法叙事是否成立","message_ids":["q913031dd63aed64d9595","qcbf9f98a313f5290adc0","q2990caa43ef3c9ea6580"]},{"title":"延期后是否改判、是否已转向量刑决定出现两种预期","message_ids":["q75f82c57adcd334ca060","q489907c08f8d4816f6f5","q37b94c969da8c16d2d4c"]},{"title":"请律师、自诉与“自诉证据材料”路线之间存在分歧","message_ids":["q35c03faa587ab5b86f6c","q7a30020bd72246a7bc00","qd226d554770ad6a456c4"]},{"title":"第三波/强制令与催办动作是否是关键转折点","message_ids":["q988edad6108631103737","q198f4b895862844787c3","q6197b8853004ef66f5ce"]},{"title":"直播与社媒威胁帖是否构成证据或仅为舆论对抗","message_ids":["q8bf99930ac3fbc6880dc","q172390a311be71bb605d","q7865110bb04d0a778ebc"]},{"title":"“受害者/债权人资格”与主体定位反复拉扯","message_ids":["q3d7483742018d893e1ff","q6e5b24f8d3c001df39f1","q9ae68f6f34467327cb80"]},{"title":"资金链与loss归属是否确定，是否为定罪核心争点","message_ids":["q3e4b4f3268f471598347","q3117e1085543409ab6b8","q380661b7b6507dd1c285"]},{"title":"检方/受托人是否存在隐匿证据或失责被多方质疑","message_ids":["qecd43e93b1c36fcf1a14","q8dffd856aabdc49b0fbf","q1643f9a722b99ed2f45f"]},{"title":"刑事案材料与破产程序衔接、财产与退费去向分歧","message_ids":["q88ac7e285ba530802dd7","qd3994ac902bde012842c","q13c9d5c6c1a31c9ff0be"]},{"title":"程序与证据层面的“司法不正义”争论：Fatico、Brady与证词可采性","message_ids":["q43f86aea2e966b601d96","qee1a737d3e0becdf621e","qfdb700c95a71e37f2602"]}],"closed":true,"is_finalized":true,"updated_at":"2026-09-06T17:52:25.066Z","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_batch","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105/pages/4","base_batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000105?page=4","page":4,"page_size":200,"total_pages":5,"has_more":true,"next_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000105?page=5","prev_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000105?page=3","messages":[{"id":"q33f39df2d0bb6c39e3b6","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":601,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-04-26T00:17:10.209Z","text":"然后威胁欺骗能自诉的干扰司法行为又被抓到","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q33f39df2d0bb6c39e3b6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q41cee615e8012eb72ac0","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":602,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T00:23:17.360Z","text":"小羊的意思是无论怎样，托雷斯都不会担责","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41cee615e8012eb72ac0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qef44a0e9167a31817525","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":603,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-26T00:23:17.911Z","text":"即使第三梯队屁酱 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灭爆的存在， 并且灭爆的存在已经成为共识 \n\n那么 就说明暴料革命的存在， 说明郭爆料受到的阻力 说明共产党的在这个案件的存在。 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等国会","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbb7e0eb37a39128a3835","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q24c3fd247ad6cb539262","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb7e0eb37a39128a3835","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qca240ceffde9b7b8eda5","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":655,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-26T01:29:44.084Z","text":"等到美国建国300年","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca240ceffde9b7b8eda5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q4bf2e3565ee0a14f7ae2","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":656,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T01:29:46.252Z","text":"介入的人都是灭爆，不是更好？郭马上翻案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4bf2e3565ee0a14f7ae2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q60d933b6e75a204e9b51","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":657,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T01:30:30.791Z","text":"今天他还说走法律程序就可以翻案，不需要特赦和政治那些","edited":false,"reply_to":"q24c3fd247ad6cb539262","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60d933b6e75a204e9b51","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q24c3fd247ad6cb539262","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qdcd9056d5ed7b548e042","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":658,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T01:55:21.877Z","text":"我发现检方一个致命错误","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdcd9056d5ed7b548e042","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qc55c3c7094d2238bd5c3","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":659,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T01:55:27.223Z","text":"https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67012324/716/4/united-states-v-guo/","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc55c3c7094d2238bd5c3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qbff656cd4ba9c65d02e4","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":660,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T01:55:38.141Z","text":"这个文件 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黄牛转给外贸公司 外贸公司转给喜马拉雅联盟 我被谁骗了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2b36fddfa11e493bb078","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78dc42aea6531d811a55","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b36fddfa11e493bb078","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qa1056c1b8dcded0e65d9","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":685,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T02:01:08.567Z","text":"托雷斯在733之后还是一直催促量刑","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1056c1b8dcded0e65d9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qf56ee4a6fc632e5e6a60","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":686,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-26T02:01:23.207Z","text":"那个资金inflow outfow\n只能说是经过中转站\n不能说A进去中转的钱 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哪一条","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc64f6d7cc1e7c4596655","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qeaedacefe718b50a60c0","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":690,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:02:15.415Z","text":"就是资金混同","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeaedacefe718b50a60c0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q7b06c50b476bd9db10e4","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":691,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T02:02:21.069Z","text":"中国妨碍国家安全罪","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc64f6d7cc1e7c4596655","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b06c50b476bd9db10e4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc64f6d7cc1e7c4596655","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q69d4226e42678b4f4fa8","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":692,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:02:40.917Z","text":"不是","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7b06c50b476bd9db10e4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69d4226e42678b4f4fa8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7b06c50b476bd9db10e4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qaca42f26f4a6336edaff","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":693,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:02:42.875Z","text":"我认为","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaca42f26f4a6336edaff","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q700c87e0a8612b1fe39f","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":694,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:02:45.789Z","text":"就是资金混同","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q700c87e0a8612b1fe39f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qed646e4804b09152ad8b","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":695,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T02:02:47.397Z","text":"像Tony这样的有效证人没有在庭审作证","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qed646e4804b09152ad8b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q3bce8658a67d7d366e54","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":696,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:02:57.785Z","text":"这还是轻的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf56ee4a6fc632e5e6a60","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3bce8658a67d7d366e54","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf56ee4a6fc632e5e6a60","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q9d90be1496bc62d114ae","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":697,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:03:45.414Z","text":"这个是大面上的 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要追回来","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe0e989d2b1b4c2a0092a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4195a392468e4f3b8841","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0e989d2b1b4c2a0092a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qb57791063354014cb3f8","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":749,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T02:16:23.513Z","text":"郭被抓后，长岛就组织一群人说，我们不是受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb57791063354014cb3f8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q210a3fa26914d84f7077","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":750,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T02:16:37.147Z","text":"关键是你不是谁的受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q210a3fa26914d84f7077","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q18c62e1701dfd775d799","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":751,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T02:16:44.706Z","text":"你不是郭的受害者","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18c62e1701dfd775d799","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q4ee2a5bf66125dde27db","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":752,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-26T02:16:47.648Z","text":"他们一直混淆啊\n是这个欺诈案受害者\n和不是郭个人受害者 不矛盾","edited":false,"reply_to":"q210a3fa26914d84f7077","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ee2a5bf66125dde27db","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q210a3fa26914d84f7077","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qa40e1e7d4740c09900f6","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":753,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T02:17:02.663Z","text":"但是，你有没有被联盟农场骗钱啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa40e1e7d4740c09900f6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q5ae2781b28cbacf622e6","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":754,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:17:51.118Z","text":"［用户 him***］ 不冲突","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ae2781b28cbacf622e6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qf9e8d0d80a5ea56ac9e9","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":755,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-26T02:18:03.004Z","text":"钱被共谋个人拿跑了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa40e1e7d4740c09900f6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf9e8d0d80a5ea56ac9e9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa40e1e7d4740c09900f6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q459dce392d1c6acc6c68","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":756,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-26T02:18:54.449Z","text":"应该说是 洗钱转移差额 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配合的亲密无间","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa4f16b6dbb1bf9fdaf76","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qb5f2669b01aca914acaa","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":771,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-26T02:23:34.616Z","text":"再加上青们在中间，给予各种support 要人头给人头 要数据给数据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb5f2669b01aca914acaa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q6666713d9ca2651303ad","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":772,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:24:31.958Z","text":"律师不可能这么说 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有关系 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律师更不知道","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50bdb406229b2535661e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q39352a2c7b89a6f35fa5","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":792,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:32:05.237Z","text":"那现在只有司法欺诈可以做到","edited":false,"reply_to":"q75da179b8932132fa211","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q39352a2c7b89a6f35fa5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q75da179b8932132fa211","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q2e716246178c6e6d7460","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":793,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:32:19.376Z","text":"但关键是 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但是你必须拿出法律","edited":false,"reply_to":"qebfbfa6737a25772110c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe831adc44de986ed679d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qebfbfa6737a25772110c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qd4eae47d2c00df699608","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":800,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T02:33:04.471Z","text":"不需要","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe831adc44de986ed679d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4eae47d2c00df699608","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe831adc44de986ed679d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000104","next_batch_id":"batch-000106"}