{"id":"batch-000105","number":105,"revision":2,"date_start":"2026-04-24T22:11:34.133Z","date_end":"2026-04-26T15:22:48.101Z","total_messages":1000,"summary_en":"Community discussion, batch 105 (Apr 24, 2026 – Apr 26, 2026), 1,000 messages, on the Guo Wengui / Miles Guo (Ho Wan Kwok) case. From Apr 24 to Apr 26, 2026, discussion centered on appellate procedure and narrative framing. Participants argued about whether second-review filings should continue into the Southern District and whether exhibits, including 853n, should enter the record, with delay seen as either attachment extension or case-end signal. They also disputed victim versus creditor status, fund-flow and loss attribution, and evidence-control concerns, while invoking Rule 60d, Fatico, Brady, Rico, and 716-4 without treating them as verified court findings. Community statements, not court findings.","guide_en":[{"title":"Whether second-review filing should proceed before syncing to the Southern District","description":"Participants argued about whether a second-review filing was already in place and whether that record should be synced to the Southern District as part of the next procedural step. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q58200d8e12a9219b76e1","q61f0100d76634d769155","q07ea63cffcfa70987498"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q58200d8e12a9219b76e1","summary_en":"roy*** asked whether case 838 had already been filed in second review. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q61f0100d76634d769155","summary_en":"kir*** replied that they had not found confirmation. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q07ea63cffcfa70987498","summary_en":"ntp*** said their materials were sent to the Southern District and asked whether he was also required to upload the motion there. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Dispute over whether attachments and the 853n motion are filed in the record and aligned with Southern District materials","description":"Participants contended that attachments should be treated as investment proof, while disagreeing over whether the 853n motion and related filing were actually entered in the appellate record. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qaa82d7b636bc00bb5a17","q2498794979cbcc474b80","qf14b73bca6eddcc7b345"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qaa82d7b636bc00bb5a17","summary_en":"him*** said the attachments represented his investment evidence. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q2498794979cbcc474b80","summary_en":"ntp*** questioned whether a motion of that type could be filed in second review. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qf14b73bca6eddcc7b345","summary_en":"him*** argued that 853n had not been placed in the record. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Narrative shift from \"Guo fraud\" to conspiracy and judicial narrative claims","description":"Participants argued that the case framing was moving from a single-person accusation to a broader conspiracy and alliance frame, while treating that shift as contested rather than settled. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q913031dd63aed64d9595","qcbf9f98a313f5290adc0","q2990caa43ef3c9ea6580"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q913031dd63aed64d9595","summary_en":"him*** noted that the case seemed to be turning. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qcbf9f98a313f5290adc0","summary_en":"him*** suggested reframing from \"Guo fraud\" to \"alliance fraud.\" Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q2990caa43ef3c9ea6580","summary_en":"ntp*** said the turn was also seen as a move against the alliance. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Whether post-delay proceedings mean resentencing or case closure","description":"Participants disputed whether delays were meant to preserve leverage in the criminal case or signal that the matter had effectively concluded. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q75f82c57adcd334ca060","q489907c08f8d4816f6f5","q37b94c969da8c16d2d4c"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q75f82c57adcd334ca060","summary_en":"ntp*** asked what the proceeding would do over the next two months and whether the Master would be released. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q489907c08f8d4816f6f5","summary_en":"ntp*** claimed the current extensions were being used to increase attachment time. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q37b94c969da8c16d2d4c","summary_en":"him*** asserted that the case was finished. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Attorney, self-prosecution, and pro se route","description":"Participants contended over legal representation, with some urging a lawyer and others highlighting cost limits and the possible pro se route. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q35c03faa587ab5b86f6c","q7a30020bd72246a7bc00","qd226d554770ad6a456c4"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q35c03faa587ab5b86f6c","summary_en":"him*** advised finding a reliable lawyer and avoiding Chinese-language counsel. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q7a30020bd72246a7bc00","summary_en":"ntp*** said counsel was still needed but unaffordable. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qd226d554770ad6a456c4","summary_en":"him*** then suggested proceeding pro se as an alternative. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Whether third-wave warrants/ enforcement motions are a key turning point","description":"Participants disputed if there was a new filing stage, with some tying it to the filing status and others seeing the shift to a third-wave enforcement cycle as decisive. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q988edad6108631103737","q198f4b895862844787c3","q6197b8853004ef66f5ce"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q988edad6108631103737","summary_en":"kir*** referred to a filing step in the ongoing process. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q198f4b895862844787c3","summary_en":"beg*** said he contacted second review about materials not being returned and pointed to possible identity-related privacy constraints, then urged calling second review for records. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q6197b8853004ef66f5ce","summary_en":"kir*** stated that a third-wave shift was coming. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Whether livestreams and social-media threat posts count as evidence or media confrontation","description":"Participants disputed the evidentiary value of livestream and social-media content, with one side treating it as rumor or coercive theater and the other reading it as case-linked behavior. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q8bf99930ac3fbc6880dc","q172390a311be71bb605d","q7865110bb04d0a778ebc"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q8bf99930ac3fbc6880dc","summary_en":"kir*** dismissed some posts as repeating hearsay. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q172390a311be71bb605d","summary_en":"nev*** reported claims that someone publicly flaunted Guo being neatly prepared for courtroom release. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q7865110bb04d0a778ebc","summary_en":"him*** said discussions repeatedly ended up attributing everything to Guo. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Victim and creditor qualification and party positioning","description":"Participants contested who should be treated as a victim versus a creditor, and where the practical litigation route should be pursued. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q3d7483742018d893e1ff","q6e5b24f8d3c001df39f1","q9ae68f6f34467327cb80"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q3d7483742018d893e1ff","summary_en":"joh*** warned people not to rely on criminal-case victim status and said bankruptcy-only claims may be ineffective. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q6e5b24f8d3c001df39f1","summary_en":"joh*** contrasted 1,800 bankruptcy creditors with 6,000 exchange customers, advised separating bankruptcy from criminal matters, and urged communication from awakened participants. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q9ae68f6f34467327cb80","summary_en":"reb*** contended that if only equitable-interest actors intervene, the court may defer on resource grounds, leaving entities like gclub beneficiaries, and that once sentenced victims may be treated as ordinary creditors under the luc narrative. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Whether the funding chain and loss attribution are settled as a core conviction issue","description":"Participants disputed the money trail and whether loss allocation was clear, including recipient identity and currency conversion mechanics, while rejecting some speculative intermediary theories. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q3e4b4f3268f471598347","q3117e1085543409ab6b8","q380661b7b6507dd1c285"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q3e4b4f3268f471598347","summary_en":"spr*** asked whether another person was a collector in the same role as the speaker. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q3117e1085543409ab6b8","summary_en":"kir*** asked who she used to convert RMB into USD after receiving it. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q380661b7b6507dd1c285","summary_en":"ntp*** argued it was unnecessary to assume a scalper arrangement. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Whether prosecution and trustee concealed evidence or failed in duty","description":"Participants disputed accountability claims against the trustee and prosecution, arguing that courts have direct leverage over parties but limited control over third parties. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["qecd43e93b1c36fcf1a14","q8dffd856aabdc49b0fbf","q1643f9a722b99ed2f45f"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"qecd43e93b1c36fcf1a14","summary_en":"kir*** said courts can control prosecutors and defense but not third parties. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q8dffd856aabdc49b0fbf","summary_en":"kir*** invoked trustee good faith or integrity concerns. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q1643f9a722b99ed2f45f","summary_en":"kir*** argued that corrective action had not been taken for three years. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Criminal-case and bankruptcy-process linkage, and asset and refund-traceability differences","description":"Participants disputed a post-sentencing path through Rule 60d that uses criminal-case assets and agreements, while also contesting how refunds should be treated in bankruptcy claims. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q88ac7e285ba530802dd7","qd3994ac902bde012842c","q13c9d5c6c1a31c9ff0be"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q88ac7e285ba530802dd7","summary_en":"kir*** described a path where after sentencing, Ryan Rule60d begins and any party with criminal-case assets could act. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qd3994ac902bde012842c","summary_en":"kir*** added that parties could rely on luc and the prosecution agreement. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"q13c9d5c6c1a31c9ff0be","summary_en":"reb*** questioned whether refunds made before filing, including potential GTV-related seizures, should be reclaimed as debtor funds and then treated as ordinary-creditor claims. Community statements, not court findings."}]},{"title":"Procedural and evidence-level judicial injustice debate: Fatico, Brady, and witness admissibility","description":"Participants disputed judicial-integrity claims centered on the money-flow model, alleged misleading FBI testimony, and use of witness evidence tied to Fatico, Brady, and Rico arguments. Community statements, not court findings.","message_ids":["q43f86aea2e966b601d96","qee1a737d3e0becdf621e","qfdb700c95a71e37f2602"],"quotes":[{"message_id":"q43f86aea2e966b601d96","summary_en":"kir*** said the FBI expert cash-in/cash-out model was disrupted by 716-4. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qee1a737d3e0becdf621e","summary_en":"kir*** questioned how the prosecution could allow an FBI witness to mislead the jury. Community statements, not court findings."},{"message_id":"qfdb700c95a71e37f2602","summary_en":"kir*** attributed the Rico issue to problematic witness testimony. Community statements, not court findings."}]}],"summary":"讨论在程序与叙事两线并行：对二审处理路径争议最集中的包括先立案后是否向南区同步上传、附件/853n及动议是否入卷、第三波催办是否触发核验。另有大量争论集中在资金链与loss归责、受害者与债权人资格、检方与受托人是否隐匿或失责。叙事从“郭诈骗”扩展到共谋、司法欺诈和政治介入，但多方也提醒目前仍有大量推测。关于后续路径，成员在律师自诉、是否并行推进破产、上诉时机上反复对立。直播、社媒威胁帖和删帖行为被部分人视为舆论压力依据，也被另一部分质疑为非可信证据，整体未形成统一结论，只在程序正当性与可核验材料边界上持续博弈。","guide":[{"title":"二审先立案后同步到南区是否应持续执行","message_ids":["q58200d8e12a9219b76e1","q61f0100d76634d769155","q07ea63cffcfa70987498"]},{"title":"附件及853n动议是否入卷、与南区材料一致性争议","message_ids":["qaa82d7b636bc00bb5a17","q2498794979cbcc474b80","qf14b73bca6eddcc7b345"]},{"title":"叙事焦点从“郭诈骗”转向共谋与司法叙事是否成立","message_ids":["q913031dd63aed64d9595","qcbf9f98a313f5290adc0","q2990caa43ef3c9ea6580"]},{"title":"延期后是否改判、是否已转向量刑决定出现两种预期","message_ids":["q75f82c57adcd334ca060","q489907c08f8d4816f6f5","q37b94c969da8c16d2d4c"]},{"title":"请律师、自诉与“自诉证据材料”路线之间存在分歧","message_ids":["q35c03faa587ab5b86f6c","q7a30020bd72246a7bc00","qd226d554770ad6a456c4"]},{"title":"第三波/强制令与催办动作是否是关键转折点","message_ids":["q988edad6108631103737","q198f4b895862844787c3","q6197b8853004ef66f5ce"]},{"title":"直播与社媒威胁帖是否构成证据或仅为舆论对抗","message_ids":["q8bf99930ac3fbc6880dc","q172390a311be71bb605d","q7865110bb04d0a778ebc"]},{"title":"“受害者/债权人资格”与主体定位反复拉扯","message_ids":["q3d7483742018d893e1ff","q6e5b24f8d3c001df39f1","q9ae68f6f34467327cb80"]},{"title":"资金链与loss归属是否确定，是否为定罪核心争点","message_ids":["q3e4b4f3268f471598347","q3117e1085543409ab6b8","q380661b7b6507dd1c285"]},{"title":"检方/受托人是否存在隐匿证据或失责被多方质疑","message_ids":["qecd43e93b1c36fcf1a14","q8dffd856aabdc49b0fbf","q1643f9a722b99ed2f45f"]},{"title":"刑事案材料与破产程序衔接、财产与退费去向分歧","message_ids":["q88ac7e285ba530802dd7","qd3994ac902bde012842c","q13c9d5c6c1a31c9ff0be"]},{"title":"程序与证据层面的“司法不正义”争论：Fatico、Brady与证词可采性","message_ids":["q43f86aea2e966b601d96","qee1a737d3e0becdf621e","qfdb700c95a71e37f2602"]}],"closed":true,"is_finalized":true,"updated_at":"2026-09-06T17:52:25.066Z","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_batch","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105/pages/5","base_batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000105?page=5","page":5,"page_size":200,"total_pages":5,"has_more":false,"next_url":null,"prev_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-batches/batch-000105?page=4","messages":[{"id":"qe440cc4b4c98ac1c9dfb","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":801,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T02:33:09.396Z","text":"这个案子起诉的郭","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe440cc4b4c98ac1c9dfb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qceda940fe0a878de4a2a","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":802,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:33:12.216Z","text":"？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd4eae47d2c00df699608","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qceda940fe0a878de4a2a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4eae47d2c00df699608","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qa48ca2fac21f489edfce","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":803,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T02:33:19.353Z","text":"这个案子程序不正义，直接推翻","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa48ca2fac21f489edfce","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q64a829c39d9445079493","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":804,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T02:33:26.354Z","text":"另立案件起诉联盟农场","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64a829c39d9445079493","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qbb88bb78770a14198713","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":805,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:33:34.937Z","text":"也不是这么笼统 要看具体的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa48ca2fac21f489edfce","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb88bb78770a14198713","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa48ca2fac21f489edfce","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q5c1a1a3c55d418260c89","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":806,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:33:38.455Z","text":"司法欺诈 可以推翻","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c1a1a3c55d418260c89","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qd0d8ad3d0e706cf617a6","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":807,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:33:43.334Z","text":"但能推翻多少","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd0d8ad3d0e706cf617a6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qa40248c331aa335cace2","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":808,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:33:45.616Z","text":"是个问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa40248c331aa335cace2","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q137802da5990a966c39b","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":809,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T02:33:53.026Z","text":"这个案子多处程序不正义","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbb88bb78770a14198713","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q137802da5990a966c39b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbb88bb78770a14198713","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qba2188edb3a8eb96a5ca","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":810,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-26T02:35:31.760Z","text":"小羊还说螺丝哥是从乌克兰军校毕业的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8b7bcc322726033f0b91","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba2188edb3a8eb96a5ca","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b7bcc322726033f0b91","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qb0de202e221f77c25568","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":811,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:36:00.534Z","text":"说实话我现在没把握全部推翻","edited":false,"reply_to":"q137802da5990a966c39b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0de202e221f77c25568","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q137802da5990a966c39b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qd38669969a31ba755a1c","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":812,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:36:21.336Z","text":"我都没把握 律师更不可能","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd38669969a31ba755a1c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qe068979595240cbc21b6","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":813,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-26T02:36:35.196Z","text":"程序不正义已经被二巡入卷。现在需要这60天， 从检方833 入手， 揭露检方的假","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe068979595240cbc21b6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q674bb8df50efccc5c815","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":814,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T02:36:36.684Z","text":"小羊造谣抹黑案件参与人，涉嫌干预案件。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qba2188edb3a8eb96a5ca","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q674bb8df50efccc5c815","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba2188edb3a8eb96a5ca","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qdded5f59e97beb706d04","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":815,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T02:37:00.476Z","text":"一般案子只要有一处程序不正义就可以推翻","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb0de202e221f77c25568","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdded5f59e97beb706d04","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb0de202e221f77c25568","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q882857f5242ef7b0ec64","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":816,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:37:11.936Z","text":"也不是这么笼统 你可以查查机器人","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdded5f59e97beb706d04","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q882857f5242ef7b0ec64","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdded5f59e97beb706d04","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q1095302faf2a8ccf7244","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":817,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:37:15.425Z","text":"要具体看","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1095302faf2a8ccf7244","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q61b38f55fd8c57cfff39","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":818,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T02:37:17.406Z","text":"这个案子肯定能推翻","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61b38f55fd8c57cfff39","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q60ffc5a9a6e7776058f6","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":819,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:37:32.659Z","text":"这个案件直接能推翻的 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要法庭来审理","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5f3006e56e4d40b82968","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf384e409e44a82d052cb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f3006e56e4d40b82968","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q4fb7086854cc93e4dca6","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":832,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T02:41:08.914Z","text":"需要有战友站出来告他们","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf384e409e44a82d052cb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4fb7086854cc93e4dca6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf384e409e44a82d052cb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q4a2181f4db73ae7c7570","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":833,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T02:41:28.488Z","text":"于健民已经在这个案子里了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a2181f4db73ae7c7570","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q083230de00917d4e83fd","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":834,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-26T02:41:34.573Z","text":"特务 是什么定义？ 如果单纯的共匪军校毕业 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正常的经营公司 还是给他个人？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e79c02fb72761d27bd0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q8c7e951806ef0bf08f14","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":839,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T02:42:43.716Z","text":"给他和他老婆转账几千万","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2e79c02fb72761d27bd0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8c7e951806ef0bf08f14","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e79c02fb72761d27bd0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q7bdecd73806522430194","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":840,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T02:43:02.994Z","text":"洗脚所的钱","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7bdecd73806522430194","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q64718300167afc504a1e","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":841,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T02:43:05.204Z","text":"挪用","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64718300167afc504a1e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q9fda653960942d10e6f6","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":842,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-26T02:43:12.469Z","text":"他老婆把这个钱干什么了？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9fda653960942d10e6f6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q20ee5ac0c2bddedaa3e6","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":843,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:43:17.237Z","text":"这又回到那个问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20ee5ac0c2bddedaa3e6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q5e84fd791b670921b345","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":844,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T02:43:18.518Z","text":"不知道","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9fda653960942d10e6f6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e84fd791b670921b345","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9fda653960942d10e6f6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q9f14ba5c7e9bdd52c9c0","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":845,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:43:23.459Z","text":"rico是怎么绑上的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f14ba5c7e9bdd52c9c0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qfd3de084d98c8d0f5acb","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":846,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:43:30.329Z","text":"是alter ego吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfd3de084d98c8d0f5acb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q5e765e1fa226b38f0a6c","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":847,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-26T02:43:37.275Z","text":"有没有为了躲避共匪金融超限战？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e765e1fa226b38f0a6c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q45b2d5dee9dade88ff9f","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":848,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:43:40.689Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]  这个问题一直没有结论","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q45b2d5dee9dade88ff9f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q5ab7a8980217bc40d258","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":849,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:43:52.973Z","text":"这个不说明问题","edited":false,"reply_to":"q5e765e1fa226b38f0a6c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ab7a8980217bc40d258","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e765e1fa226b38f0a6c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q42a3b7882312ddbfa727","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":850,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T02:44:03.529Z","text":"于建明，我不知道，他是怎么回事儿。但是我觉得他可能不是那么干净。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9fda653960942d10e6f6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42a3b7882312ddbfa727","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9fda653960942d10e6f6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q2992adc17b4d3494b26c","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":851,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-26T02:44:23.811Z","text":"从来没研究过他","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2992adc17b4d3494b26c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q8f60b5818376e0c189b1","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":852,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T02:44:52.464Z","text":"联盟农场和洗脚所的账是最乱的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f60b5818376e0c189b1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q8d4bc8af6bcdd04a713b","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":853,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T02:45:07.524Z","text":"这就是为什么郭让人去查联盟农场和洗脚所","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d4bc8af6bcdd04a713b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q26b4527c415a57d68ece","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":854,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:45:13.672Z","text":"我真不知道rico怎么打掉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26b4527c415a57d68ece","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qa7dfffaf86c7fc454ea1","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":855,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:45:18.768Z","text":"无从下手","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7dfffaf86c7fc454ea1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q786c2b7dee3fc7ac03c7","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":856,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T02:45:21.932Z","text":"不用打掉","edited":false,"reply_to":"q26b4527c415a57d68ece","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q786c2b7dee3fc7ac03c7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26b4527c415a57d68ece","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q9dd47d050b4051bd5a1d","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":857,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T02:45:30.286Z","text":"直接程序不正义翻案就好了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9dd47d050b4051bd5a1d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qe12f9d8be8c074111c50","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":858,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T02:45:43.859Z","text":"另立案件起诉联盟农场，于建明","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe12f9d8be8c074111c50","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q51b91da3dd91890d484b","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":859,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:45:47.801Z","text":"问题是程序不正义 有标准的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9dd47d050b4051bd5a1d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51b91da3dd91890d484b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9dd47d050b4051bd5a1d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qdfd7e61b1591b3d0ffcf","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":860,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:45:57.022Z","text":"哪个不正义 影响多少","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdfd7e61b1591b3d0ffcf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q5ac8e8f5ae355823c6bd","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":861,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:46:12.411Z","text":"比如司法欺诈 影响保释和luc对本案的影响","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ac8e8f5ae355823c6bd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q393db4476e6d0d1c44fd","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":862,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:46:19.238Z","text":"那陪审团呢有影响吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q393db4476e6d0d1c44fd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q20a5c20b98cab92b84c6","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":863,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:46:42.164Z","text":"现在还没有一个不正义 直接可以翻案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20a5c20b98cab92b84c6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qa46c496b6eaedfd90897","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":864,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:46:52.141Z","text":"除非你能证明 系统性报假案","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa46c496b6eaedfd90897","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qcb59310af45346500a69","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":865,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:47:12.757Z","text":"或者王艳萍特务 王认罪无效","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb59310af45346500a69","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qd5f4ec879588384ac2d0","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":866,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-26T02:48:03.710Z","text":"法官给陪审团定罪的 指导 - 可以看看","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5f4ec879588384ac2d0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qeb1ba3e6a3f8191389f6","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":867,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-26T02:48:40.963Z","text":"刑事案的rico？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q26b4527c415a57d68ece","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb1ba3e6a3f8191389f6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26b4527c415a57d68ece","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qa4354db003d94bb03081","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":868,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-26T02:49:26.061Z","text":"一开始起诉书就定性了 G集团就是郭集团","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa4354db003d94bb03081","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qf4aa97f4714d0abe98c0","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":869,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:49:38.185Z","text":"实际上这个案子最好情况就是把郭从里面摘出来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4aa97f4714d0abe98c0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q6d638cc5f36da4074964","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":870,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:50:07.880Z","text":"如果摘不出来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d638cc5f36da4074964","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qee3495b88a8da61286e8","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":871,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:50:14.793Z","text":"你只能从根上铲除","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee3495b88a8da61286e8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qc3c79fbd85216c62b68f","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":872,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-26T02:50:30.306Z","text":"对的 王认罪的是G集团 洗钱诈骗","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf4aa97f4714d0abe98c0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc3c79fbd85216c62b68f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4aa97f4714d0abe98c0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q3467ffe50e6837d366d6","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":873,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-26T02:51:58.028Z","text":"余在郭的指导下办事","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3467ffe50e6837d366d6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q3b215c407e08e3a59074","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":874,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-26T02:52:31.307Z","text":"这些指控 通过庭审共谋污点证人的证词 成为了证据 跳过了举证阶段","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b215c407e08e3a59074","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q70a997b460b0f083ea69","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":875,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T02:52:55.819Z","text":"这个说说 怎么跳过的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3b215c407e08e3a59074","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70a997b460b0f083ea69","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b215c407e08e3a59074","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q2e7c23029cc0cc914e0e","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":876,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-26T02:54:35.507Z","text":"李娅是共谋 本就也应该是被告\n她类似王雁平 王认罪2项 G集团洗钱欺诈就做实了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e7c23029cc0cc914e0e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q6dcbf2986294d7285a1c","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":877,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-26T02:57:45.736Z","text":"庭审中的“受害人” 共5个在法庭做证了吧？\n夹子音叫床湿李亚，还有谁？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6dcbf2986294d7285a1c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q4fb2da4ca677b3c6cf85","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":878,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-26T02:57:48.529Z","text":"灭共演员转移投资者资金的因为，被灭共演员，luc,和南区检方配合起来说成是替被告欺诈转移和或洗钱，这一点成立的前提是，先要独立证明G enterprise 属于郭，但这一点，不管在破产案还是在刑事案引入灭共演员的证词之前，没有独立证明。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q70a997b460b0f083ea69","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4fb2da4ca677b3c6cf85","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q70a997b460b0f083ea69","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q8080e7791a69dcb373e6","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":879,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-26T03:00:16.683Z","text":"那些检方口中的“共谋”， 是不是都做了受害者陈述？ 在那个134人当中？ 比如李亚","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8080e7791a69dcb373e6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q17219696236a119d04a6","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":880,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-26T03:00:43.217Z","text":"就是这么直接跳过了，然后辩方一配合，法官就有理由在388里说检方已经证明了G enterprise属于郭(原文写得复杂一些,但就是这个意思），然后再引入共谋者陈述，共谋者陈述没有强制对质权。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17219696236a119d04a6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q0b06a78aa2cd616a488b","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":881,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-26T03:02:00.646Z","text":"共谋者陈述为什么被告没有对质权？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b06a78aa2cd616a488b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q773f8877656537a8682f","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":882,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-26T03:04:53.222Z","text":"rico法条上是这么写的，实际判例也是这么操作的，可以申请，法官可以同意，可以不同意，且法官不同意属于合理裁量。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0b06a78aa2cd616a488b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q773f8877656537a8682f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b06a78aa2cd616a488b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q013d8693584e206510c8","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":883,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T03:06:01.716Z","text":"rico不用证明是被告的","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4fb2da4ca677b3c6cf85","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q013d8693584e206510c8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4fb2da4ca677b3c6cf85","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q30604dc43d682fd2eb40","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":884,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-26T03:07:47.610Z","text":"只能试图去质疑木兰的证词\n根据阿刁的陈述 国内被威胁\n木兰家人在国内被威胁","edited":false,"reply_to":"q013d8693584e206510c8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30604dc43d682fd2eb40","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q013d8693584e206510c8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qff45d0d3c48f2f434ed6","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":885,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T03:07:58.121Z","text":"rico打不掉","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff45d0d3c48f2f434ed6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qecd67e8517d413201548","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":886,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-26T03:08:01.215Z","text":"需要。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q013d8693584e206510c8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qecd67e8517d413201548","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q013d8693584e206510c8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qcba0b242359d1038657a","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":887,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T03:10:35.722Z","text":"不需要证明","edited":false,"reply_to":"qecd67e8517d413201548","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcba0b242359d1038657a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qecd67e8517d413201548","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q1331c2dde7666af8510c","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":888,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T03:10:49.332Z","text":"但需要证明被告参与推动","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1331c2dde7666af8510c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qb1ec38b38646e2c40833","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":889,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T03:11:10.874Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]  所以你的思路是对的","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1ec38b38646e2c40833","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q7c69a73fab87cd35d14f","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":890,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T03:11:15.250Z","text":"打证人证词","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c69a73fab87cd35d14f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q3440277516ac95786efb","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":891,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-26T03:11:20.095Z","text":"你们说的是两码事\nrico成立 要证明G enterorise 是债权人的\n这个缺失","edited":false,"reply_to":"qcba0b242359d1038657a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3440277516ac95786efb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcba0b242359d1038657a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qb430859e152f5b39fccf","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":892,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-26T03:11:24.630Z","text":"ai的思维不是人的思维。我说的属于，是打字太麻烦的简化表述。ai说的那个 实际操盘 是一个意思。这跟luc没有单独证明G enterprise 属于郭之前就不能接受拱卒朱莉娅的债权，是一个道理。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa478e3c9ff648a2378c8","reply_status":"out_of_scope","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb430859e152f5b39fccf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复的附件未收录","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qa4ca1e4e7cb632095bf0","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":893,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T03:12:04.969Z","text":"不一定吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3440277516ac95786efb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa4ca1e4e7cb632095bf0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3440277516ac95786efb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q999193e45ef06a75e962","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":894,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T03:12:10.711Z","text":"不用债权人也可以rico","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q999193e45ef06a75e962","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q571424ffcfd3c71965e9","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":895,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T03:12:22.252Z","text":"rico只要是你组织指挥 建立一个模式就可以","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q571424ffcfd3c71965e9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qb774a500a56cc021f792","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":896,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-26T03:12:25.971Z","text":"破产案就垮了\n刑事案就没法rico","edited":false,"reply_to":"q999193e45ef06a75e962","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb774a500a56cc021f792","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q999193e45ef06a75e962","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q774410ddbf85d2666883","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":897,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T03:13:12.053Z","text":"怎么证明刑事案的rico和破产案有关呢","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb774a500a56cc021f792","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q774410ddbf85d2666883","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb774a500a56cc021f792","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qfa9eb4ddde210d4f44d8","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":898,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T03:13:45.091Z","text":"恩 实际操盘就行","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb430859e152f5b39fccf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa9eb4ddde210d4f44d8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb430859e152f5b39fccf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q51ebed36cdaedbb945e7","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":899,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-26T03:14:38.636Z","text":"就是像李亚这类明明是诈骗，却说自己是替郭欺诈转移，你不能张口就来，比如gclub，除非郭是gclub 的受益人，你可以说你是替郭欺诈转移，但郭不是，你说是替代自我，傀儡结构，影子实体，穿透公司面纱，反正一大堆不是人话的词，你得先证明，然后它们转移资金才能说成是欺诈转移。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51ebed36cdaedbb945e7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qfdb700c95a71e37f2602","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":900,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T03:17:38.125Z","text":"所以 rico 就是证人证词搞的鬼","edited":false,"reply_to":"q51ebed36cdaedbb945e7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfdb700c95a71e37f2602","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q51ebed36cdaedbb945e7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qd78eb78e23bbc77d468d","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":901,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T03:17:43.805Z","text":"对吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd78eb78e23bbc77d468d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q77e4669a0806aae49eab","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":902,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-26T03:19:17.524Z","text":"刑事案的 数千受害者\n只能来自于破产案债权人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q774410ddbf85d2666883","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77e4669a0806aae49eab","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q774410ddbf85d2666883","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qc9b04dc461910d4ade28","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":903,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T03:21:09.387Z","text":"所以这个还是猜","edited":false,"reply_to":"q77e4669a0806aae49eab","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc9b04dc461910d4ade28","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77e4669a0806aae49eab","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q20af9dcf3242a65662f1","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":904,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T03:21:43.779Z","text":"托雷斯说问检方","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20af9dcf3242a65662f1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qad6d97d404f174eeafb4","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":905,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-26T03:21:56.407Z","text":"它们是一步一步把程序走通的，先说你用替代自我隐匿财产，安排受托人，然后受托人和破产法官一唱一和，违法的债权登记，长期“临时扣押”，以“破产调查”花费投资者资金等一直不纠正，把这些形成的法律结果巧妙的呈现给陪审团，就给陪审团成功植入了G enterprise 属于郭。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfdb700c95a71e37f2602","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad6d97d404f174eeafb4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfdb700c95a71e37f2602","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q0309ff2717cd821edb39","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":906,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-26T03:23:14.597Z","text":"债权人对G enterprise的产权 luc没有证明\n检方的 数千受害者 没有证据\n报案的几个受害者 应该不rico标准吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0309ff2717cd821edb39","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q2d115dbd95d2a5d09fe8","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":907,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T03:25:24.032Z","text":"rico根据定义 刑事案其实单独就可以定","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0309ff2717cd821edb39","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d115dbd95d2a5d09fe8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0309ff2717cd821edb39","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q52541005ac805038b422","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":908,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T03:25:29.227Z","text":"加上证人证词","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52541005ac805038b422","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q253f4c8412bb60518d94","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":909,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T03:25:36.344Z","text":"证明郭操控这个pattern 就可以了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q253f4c8412bb60518d94","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qb66953f401aa3f7e79dc","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":910,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T03:25:44.865Z","text":"所以rico 关键还是证人证词","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb66953f401aa3f7e79dc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qf4bd1c6f372ccb157634","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":911,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-26T03:27:21.486Z","text":"还有检方那句 数千受害者 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继续","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56bcf02cfe5865b5ad40","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q3e6fa071c498efc947ac","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":958,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-26T03:55:43.402Z","text":"同理 luc也是欺诈","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e6fa071c498efc947ac","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q6d11a882fe66f66faf10","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":959,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T03:56:03.658Z","text":"绕远了 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还没决定好","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q772e1bed2a12002ff343","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qc0afcf5c811b5abd1bb7","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":962,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T03:59:49.166Z","text":"很简单啊 新老联盟 羊帮质疑帮 拱卒ju ki a","edited":false,"reply_to":"q772e1bed2a12002ff343","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0afcf5c811b5abd1bb7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q772e1bed2a12002ff343","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q62c9e080c1f27a47c792","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":963,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-26T04:01:04.634Z","text":"luc也要分碗汤","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62c9e080c1f27a47c792","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q93db24ee05c8cd5899c4","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":964,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-26T04:01:32.386Z","text":"FBI去抄Mahwah","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93db24ee05c8cd5899c4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q8eca002a8ef1b7f338ef","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":965,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-26T04:02:09.502Z","text":"应该是luc破产案提供的情报有关","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8eca002a8ef1b7f338ef","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qd47809011111fb35b295","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":966,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-26T04:02:31.322Z","text":"抄了个寂寞 压根不是郭家族的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd47809011111fb35b295","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q126780b5b4fc69dcb207","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":967,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-26T04:07:08.899Z","text":"阿刁也是神助攻","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q126780b5b4fc69dcb207","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q66d231e1d11a38b2f48e","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":968,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-26T04:07:36.908Z","text":"木兰的陈述 还能当evidence？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66d231e1d11a38b2f48e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qe01a796c068b9795fd71","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":969,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-26T04:12:52.982Z","text":"木兰倒是可以反水，指正被Ccp威胁做假证，反正已经有阿刁的例子","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe01a796c068b9795fd71","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qec7aeebfcec87a69af17","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":970,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-26T04:13:56.587Z","text":"这样G enterprise里的300骨干，洗钱的，收钱的，还是得进去","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec7aeebfcec87a69af17","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qc132424870ac38ca83e7","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":971,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-26T04:14:28.308Z","text":"郭就是一精神领袖，有个屁话语权，瞎咋呼","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc132424870ac38ca83e7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qdfcf85dc44aff7b6ea14","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":972,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-26T04:28:28.988Z","text":"猜不来。\n我只能等着“请听下文分解”了。\n你们几个填鸭式的讲解，我勉强能接受一些。\n这种问题比哥德巴赫猜想还难。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb98604822432eb7f5134","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdfcf85dc44aff7b6ea14","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q1ffd435f0c31e2b7e2e2","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":973,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-26T04:29:43.205Z","text":"那这个不就是程序不正义嘛，FBI搜查时没开摄像头，没有提供中文翻译，都是程序不正义","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4fb2da4ca677b3c6cf85","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ffd435f0c31e2b7e2e2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4fb2da4ca677b3c6cf85","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q3bd7181570304b17401e","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":974,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-04-26T05:24:02.257Z","text":"🤣案件里郭 一直在看戏","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc132424870ac38ca83e7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3bd7181570304b17401e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc132424870ac38ca83e7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q64e2a6d5ebb3cee6509b","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":975,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-04-26T06:23:30.581Z","text":"把它们都拖进案子 一起进美国的法律熔炉 试炼","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64e2a6d5ebb3cee6509b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qe45d1e941a00ecc3326a","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":976,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-26T06:23:52.299Z","text":"你打联盟的文件有没有提律师费的事？ [删节：隐私信息]","edited":true,"reply_to":"qf3476fd6744e9f9abd7a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe45d1e941a00ecc3326a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf3476fd6744e9f9abd7a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q2416ccbf8e4b4f9fda9a","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":977,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-26T06:40:15.526Z","text":"还有mia，螺丝和我，都参与过这种通过农场找中介换汇的操作，所有参与喜韩、樱花人民币借贷的都是投资资金层层转账的证人，估计别的农场也有类似操作，这是中国人出来换汇的常用手段","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2097953a3389f0c6105a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2416ccbf8e4b4f9fda9a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2097953a3389f0c6105a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q0e4c27620dc823c8980e","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":978,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-26T06:40:25.136Z","text":"我也忘了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q81b5e4dea33893b4a8a4","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e4c27620dc823c8980e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qad8474c488d271bbb6db","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":979,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-26T06:51:36.339Z","text":"388已经说了农场是被告代理人","edited":false,"reply_to":"qebfbfa6737a25772110c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qad8474c488d271bbb6db","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qebfbfa6737a25772110c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q074494dafa0487422cc0","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":980,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T06:52:20.135Z","text":"郭文贵和新联盟完全没关系","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q074494dafa0487422cc0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qb3c9b455d3c18d729855","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":981,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-04-26T10:05:47.981Z","text":"https://x.com/ddivul8m3g82864/status/2048321001633812483?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb3c9b455d3c18d729855","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q8200a4c535a5df7de295","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":982,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-04-26T10:41:36.715Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/2048351658871341259?s=20","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8200a4c535a5df7de295","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qcfa9e8f1a72b031600d3","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":983,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-04-26T11:07:07.961Z","text":"https://x.com/dDiVul8m3g82864/status/2048188086497218600?s=20","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfa9e8f1a72b031600d3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q9c9f6296c6b9c789dcb6","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":984,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-04-26T11:30:48.955Z","text":"https://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/2048351658871341259?s=20","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c9f6296c6b9c789dcb6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q26d99c42882dfa8d299a","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":985,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T12:08:08.709Z","text":"不是层层转账，是Tony被定罪，有效证人没出庭","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2416ccbf8e4b4f9fda9a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26d99c42882dfa8d299a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2416ccbf8e4b4f9fda9a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"qe4e1a2802bec25451e6f","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":986,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T12:08:57.742Z","text":"层层转账最多只是影响量刑，有效证人没出庭是影响庭审的，而且和中共直接相关","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe4e1a2802bec25451e6f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q6647b5257b78e66aad0e","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":987,"speaker":"him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the past five weeks of testimony, the Government has put forth substantial evidence\nof these conspiracies. For example, the Government has offered testimony from multiple victims\n2 Namely, 18 U.S.C. § 1343 (wire fraud); 18 U.S.C. § 1344 (financial institution fraud); 18 U.S.C. § 1956\n(laundering of monetary instruments); 18 U.S.C. § 1957 (monetary transactions in property derived from specified\nunlawful activity); and 15 U.S.C. §§ 78j(b) and 78ff, and 17 C.F.R. § 240.10b–5 (securities fraud). S3 ¶ 24.\nCase 1:23-cr-00118-AT Document 388 Filed 07/01/24 Page 2 of 10\n3\nwho, at Guo’s urging, invested in GTV, bought G|CLUBS memberships, invested in the Farm\nLoans, and bought Himalaya Exchange tokens. See, e.g., Tr. at 1318:4–1538:8 (testimony of Ya\nLi); id. at 2373:22–2431:8, 2502:1–2506:4 (testimony of Minran Wu); id. at 4463:10–4509:23\n(testimony of Wei Chen). The Government has traced the use of these victim funds to show that\nthey were used to purchase a Ferrari, a Bugatti, and the Crocker-Darlington Mansion in Mahwah,\nNew Jersey, among other things, and to invest in a high-risk hedge fund. E.g., id. at 938:1–\n954:17 (testimony of Kimberly Espinoza); id. at 3436:12–3459:9 (testimony of Jocelyn Reyes);\nid. at 1789:3–1814:9 (testimony of Lonny Souza); id. at 3873:19–3934:17 (testimony of Amy\nBuck). The Government has also demonstrated that members of the conspiracies took steps to\nhide Guo’s involvement in and control over the bank accounts that held the funds. Id. at\n1989:15–1999:7, 2070:2–25, 2071:3–9 (testimony of Haitham Khaled); see id. at 1317:2–10,\n1338:13–16, 1409:15–1410:5, 1513:1–19 (testimony of Ya Li regarding Guo’s control over the\nfunds)\n托雷斯是这么说的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2b2d5a38d0965a3a49e2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdfa7a918439a68de246a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b2d5a38d0965a3a49e2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000105"},{"id":"q33e0ae71308153dc4a71","batch_id":"batch-000105","seq":990,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-26T12:16:22.648Z","text":"Based on this evidence as well as other documents and testimony introduced at trial, the\nCourt finds that the Government has met its burden on the Geaney prerequisites as to the Farm\nleaders’ statements identified in Exhibit 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