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谁能把郭文贵说替你们坐牢那个视频找出来截取一下，晒一下。仔细品味一下。到底郭文贵在说什么","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd75b7d73fd0872774c2f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q3c459838b7942858ce00","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":15,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-26T15:43:41.036Z","text":"他也在替灭爆联盟坐牢。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q8573227fd8e1ac974a52","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c459838b7942858ce00","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8573227fd8e1ac974a52","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q745897572c566b656262","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":16,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-26T15:47:34.242Z","text":"律师不作为，是联盟的人、[删节：成员身份] 极力吹捧的人","edited":true,"reply_to":"qab50b82fad4653478759","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q745897572c566b656262","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab50b82fad4653478759","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q3a9ff87997a25bb0bead","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":17,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-26T15:48:47.687Z","text":"716-4 FBI探员 Anthony Alecci 与2020年8月空降FBI， 可是调查G系列。收到证人1的报案。整片都是 Guo Je - 但是Je 是200% 的操盘手/掌控人。必须拉上Je 是因为要给Guo 定罪","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a9ff87997a25bb0bead","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q95b77cbf498ce02475fa","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":18,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-04-26T16:01:54.934Z","text":"[删节：成员身份]郭文贵不可能替联盟农场那些[屏蔽词]坐牢。郭文贵自己说过，爱憎分明啊！他怎么可能爱要搞死他的人啊？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95b77cbf498ce02475fa","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qd1aabd4cf75f57b7f001","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":19,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-04-26T16:03:22.189Z","text":"郭直播提过，自己被官司缠诉，共产党就不会在国内抓人下死手","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd75b7d73fd0872774c2f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1aabd4cf75f57b7f001","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd75b7d73fd0872774c2f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qe331f6cac4c583d99f01","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":20,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-04-26T16:03:49.192Z","text":"没提过坐牢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe331f6cac4c583d99f01","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qe436b1e2480b90cb2fb9","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":21,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-26T16:06:14.541Z","text":"正如螺丝哥说的，各个方面都很不正常，法官、律师、检方、证人，全部都对郭“群起而攻之”，还有爱郭贼们、灭爆联盟、表面上砸郭的。这个案子很不正常、很荒谬。如果没有第三方的参与，郭真的就成了困兽、被关押的狮子。\n昨天看完小羊的直播，发现他真的是最坏的，他在极力打压自诉人上法庭。郭岀来，第一个就要胖揍他。\n我真不知道自己以前怎么认为他是最后一个战友。所谓的战友在我心里已经全军覆没了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe436b1e2480b90cb2fb9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q32a93c120450bc995650","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":22,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-26T16:08:27.903Z","text":"我的意思是，联盟在外面一天就要多整郭一天。两者一个进去，另一个就在外面。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q95b77cbf498ce02475fa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32a93c120450bc995650","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95b77cbf498ce02475fa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qf55563c34fdff7e3e9bd","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":23,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-04-26T16:18:54.968Z","text":"我好像有印象，郭文贵说七哥替你们坐牢这也的话","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd1aabd4cf75f57b7f001","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf55563c34fdff7e3e9bd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1aabd4cf75f57b7f001","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q963f2115f2ad2df9e9ec","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":24,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T16:19:26.403Z","text":"是有的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf55563c34fdff7e3e9bd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q963f2115f2ad2df9e9ec","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf55563c34fdff7e3e9bd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q263a92473ff3f03e3445","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":25,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-26T16:21:29.507Z","text":"我也听过","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf55563c34fdff7e3e9bd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q263a92473ff3f03e3445","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf55563c34fdff7e3e9bd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qeb0c808e164544c6b078","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":26,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-26T16:21:41.711Z","text":"大家有时间看检方833 文件； 里面应该有检方各种重磅违规 矛盾的地方。\n挖出来 根据自己情况解释","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb0c808e164544c6b078","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q34761a50fa27e780feee","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":27,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-26T16:22:29.071Z","text":"检方所有陈述就是他们过去3年的犯罪记录。不是郭的犯罪记录。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q34761a50fa27e780feee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qb728766726fbb804ea7c","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":28,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-26T16:29:38.657Z","text":"一个程序不正义就可以打翻案件","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb728766726fbb804ea7c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q0ce524d15e5023cb3a14","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":29,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-26T16:49:35.349Z","text":"要的是在南区6/29 前 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到火候了她自己就推翻了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q15faa8405b167a467ac5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q1c1cf70648a01fdb5bed","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":34,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T16:51:33.814Z","text":"这个法官的心理已经完全被我掌握了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c1cf70648a01fdb5bed","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qfcdaf356677dd8ccc8ea","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":35,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-26T16:51:35.028Z","text":"或者Torres 良心发现","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfcdaf356677dd8ccc8ea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qbcf0879a82b331f5b11b","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":36,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-26T16:52:17.221Z","text":"现在还是要靠有行动力的投资人","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbcf0879a82b331f5b11b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q4be72518d2df67762268","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":37,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-26T16:52:18.886Z","text":"别天真了","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfcdaf356677dd8ccc8ea","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4be72518d2df67762268","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfcdaf356677dd8ccc8ea","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qdbb2086cbd2093634c7b","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":38,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-26T16:52:53.615Z","text":"给她用事实施压","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbb2086cbd2093634c7b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q1122f3cc04d7f9aef1d8","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":39,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-26T16:53:45.346Z","text":"她自己延期不就是最好的例子吗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1122f3cc04d7f9aef1d8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q3b72f96017f34ddbbd55","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":40,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T17:23:47.229Z","text":"我觉得现在推翻有可能 之前是完全不可能","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b72f96017f34ddbbd55","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q7840573fa321209e432f","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":41,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T17:24:29.946Z","text":"法官现在应该明白过来 这案子如果处理不好 历史上书上要记她的骂名","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7840573fa321209e432f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q95afa074f7a0fa1ac315","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":42,"speaker":"tan***","date":"2026-04-26T17:28:28.778Z","text":"美国司法部是系统性塌方，这种情况是不会因系统内的单一个体的良心发现而影响整体部署的结果。放弃幻想，坚持战斗。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95afa074f7a0fa1ac315","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q35e92e0c09ec97f321d7","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":43,"speaker":"tan***","date":"2026-04-26T17:32:56.472Z","text":"推翻整个案子的一个角度是螺丝哥说的：G系列投资者，被中共判处煽颠罪、危害国家安全罪，找出完整可验证的证据，提交法庭。另一角度是找到被操控、被指使、被威胁去指证七哥的检方证人反水，揭露真相。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35e92e0c09ec97f321d7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qa864669c8c55aefed8b6","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":44,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-26T17:33:15.191Z","text":"对的，他说的缠诉，不是坐牢，替战友做牢是前联盟说的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd1aabd4cf75f57b7f001","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa864669c8c55aefed8b6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1aabd4cf75f57b7f001","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q34684724a7ebe1e5509a","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":45,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-26T17:35:07.796Z","text":"是的，罗伊那个傻大个坏种说过。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa864669c8c55aefed8b6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q34684724a7ebe1e5509a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa864669c8c55aefed8b6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q0ace445b5a4cb2d2ef3b","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":46,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-26T17:38:32.995Z","text":"非常同意 大家别怠慢 行动 行动行动。\n\n把事实摆在Torres那里。\n\n833 里面的东西 你就挖吧， 都是检方的犯罪记录。我就顺便的看了看目录 及结论， 就发现了3个问题 \n\n其他的都没看","edited":false,"reply_to":"q35e92e0c09ec97f321d7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ace445b5a4cb2d2ef3b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35e92e0c09ec97f321d7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q69772a04fd575cd9bcdb","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":47,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-26T17:40:04.905Z","text":"小羊也是竹篮打水一场空，他兢兢业业经营了五六年的直播生涯，每周几次、每次几个小时就这样塌荒了。自掘坟墓。\n让大家不要去自诉，他己经成了历史的笑话、人类的耻辱。\n别人爱去自诉，关他什么鸟事。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q35e92e0c09ec97f321d7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69772a04fd575cd9bcdb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35e92e0c09ec97f321d7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qc6ce8a9746b273f31953","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":48,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-26T17:40:41.993Z","text":"这个案子， 检方所有证人， 都必须经过 法庭盘问 \n\n例如716-4 里面的证人1","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6ce8a9746b273f31953","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q59ce6a651f1b5db3806d","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":49,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T17:41:42.123Z","text":"检方在733后就是死人一个了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59ce6a651f1b5db3806d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qd722e830823062aa64e7","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":50,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T17:41:58.528Z","text":"关键是法庭上什么时候会认","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd722e830823062aa64e7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q379f2a711b441261ddc0","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":51,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-26T17:43:36.269Z","text":"小羊还说，就螺丝哥作为一名电焊工，怎么可能写出这么高水平的法律文章。\n如果不是自己的亲身经历，的确会以为螺丝哥写不出这种法律文件。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q379f2a711b441261ddc0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q3e2d71fa3f41c08f6dd9","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":52,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T17:44:38.811Z","text":"是机器人写的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3e2d71fa3f41c08f6dd9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qd7d544745578cd20f041","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":53,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-26T17:45:22.535Z","text":"是的。这就是现代AI的神奇","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd7d544745578cd20f041","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q2ac8605f71eca49ce2e9","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":54,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-26T17:46:42.860Z","text":"我的机器人动不动就说 你的853n 咋咋咋。有的我都忘了 它还提醒我😂","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ac8605f71eca49ce2e9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q98f54780f5e8cdbcdd74","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":55,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-26T17:47:03.188Z","text":"如果没有AI，群里就没有一个人写得出这种法庭文件","edited":false,"reply_to":"qed335fbe6e82f17c3421","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q98f54780f5e8cdbcdd74","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qf2ee682e85d27d1e5cea","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":56,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-26T17:47:20.248Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf2ee682e85d27d1e5cea","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qcfd373f5bc7182a79eed","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":57,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-26T17:49:09.252Z","text":"我当年的英语研究生理工类专业的毕业论文花了半年时间，如果拿到现在，一个星期就可以出稿。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfd373f5bc7182a79eed","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q213762bcfd68bc634b66","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":58,"speaker":"tan***","date":"2026-04-26T17:50:13.336Z","text":"目标相同，方式方法不同的人一定会有，反对自己方式方法的人也不一定是敌人，无需理会杂音，彼此内耗。用自己认为正确的方法去证明就行了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q69772a04fd575cd9bcdb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q213762bcfd68bc634b66","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q69772a04fd575cd9bcdb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q645991ebeaf76fef9697","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":59,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-26T17:51:35.562Z","text":"否！小羊是灭爆的，我跟他目的会是一样？\n请问你是哪个部队的啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q213762bcfd68bc634b66","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q645991ebeaf76fef9697","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q213762bcfd68bc634b66","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qc16b43b8d910771b5b70","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":60,"speaker":"tan***","date":"2026-04-26T17:52:30.125Z","text":"上面的话就是我的态度。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q645991ebeaf76fef9697","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc16b43b8d910771b5b70","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q645991ebeaf76fef9697","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qdb4f839dd4b503bca166","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":61,"speaker":"tan***","date":"2026-04-26T17:57:42.300Z","text":"极端的表态的确更鼓舞人心，中肯真诚的声音往往容易被淹没。看你这无谓树敌，你最牛逼的态度。我在这也不是为和你为伍。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdb4f839dd4b503bca166","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qec9d27f4605e61dd0705","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":62,"speaker":"tan***","date":"2026-04-26T17:58:23.234Z","text":"你想多了，我在这跟你无关，有俩人邀请我，不是你。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7c65434bf4431c383850","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec9d27f4605e61dd0705","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q77adf5e89970fb0e6c28","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":63,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-26T18:00:31.244Z","text":"不知道小羊是什么人的很多，我就从来不看他的😂 ，人家或许只是不了解，他说得对，不用在这些杂七杂八的人那里浪费时间","edited":false,"reply_to":"q69ce047ba4d07f7fb115","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77adf5e89970fb0e6c28","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qde6282aa7302342baaed","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":64,"speaker":"tan***","date":"2026-04-26T18:03:46.068Z","text":"小羊有可能是灭爆的，原因稳住战友死等王者归来，无谓给自诉定性；但有没有一种可能他就是街边大爷的水平，自己不行动，更不知道自己不知道，他只知道你们砸他，他就砸你。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde6282aa7302342baaed","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qcb877a8c1b3dda46ce19","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":65,"speaker":"tan***","date":"2026-04-26T18:04:47.665Z","text":"如果有第二种可能和他纠缠没有意义。用行动证明就好了。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb877a8c1b3dda46ce19","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qd55fe3d324d1f1bf007c","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":66,"speaker":"tan***","date":"2026-04-26T18:07:35.541Z","text":"你们这样，即便你们做的都是对的，结果是让其他真战友接受你们的成本特别高。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1b37639a9e821c2e7b1f","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd55fe3d324d1f1bf007c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q3ad5f231e7c866f73bc8","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":67,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-04-26T18:08:59.130Z","text":"你不是相信郭文贵啊？百分之五都不会剩下。你还指望多数人啊？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd55fe3d324d1f1bf007c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ad5f231e7c866f73bc8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd55fe3d324d1f1bf007c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qd170da9ef148c7cfd897","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":68,"speaker":"tan***","date":"2026-04-26T18:09:27.063Z","text":"我之所以对小羊是怀疑态度，还是他很早就对伪联盟有清晰的认识。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd170da9ef148c7cfd897","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qe18faf6258c7b91673d9","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":69,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-04-26T18:09:36.676Z","text":"我不指望任何人相信我。你只需要相信你自己。相信你们的七哥就行。我就是打螺丝烧电焊的而已。我是文盲大[屏蔽词]","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe18faf6258c7b91673d9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q1d7b3e14292d0170ca87","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":70,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-26T18:09:59.776Z","text":"大家还是看法律文件吧。谁是谁一点都不重要","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d7b3e14292d0170ca87","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q0025dee84f9b675ce897","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":71,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T18:10:13.048Z","text":"爆料革命本来就是少数人能玩的局","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0025dee84f9b675ce897","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qbf1f989396e307105f6e","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":72,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T18:10:22.789Z","text":"大部分人都是炮灰","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf1f989396e307105f6e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q2d720fdb3e104f33d21e","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":73,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-26T18:12:57.741Z","text":"花2个半小时看716-4 没发现什么问题； 但是瑞恩就发现了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d720fdb3e104f33d21e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qd0f7d2d712f84a3599d9","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":74,"speaker":"tan***","date":"2026-04-26T18:13:16.912Z","text":"那你相信毛泽东吗？他认为10%右派，各地方按比例抓人。不要本本主义，七哥说5%，我理解是走到最后的很少，仅此而已。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3ad5f231e7c866f73bc8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd0f7d2d712f84a3599d9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ad5f231e7c866f73bc8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q79ef4ca31ec9ebf63ad8","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":75,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T18:13:55.287Z","text":"哦？瑞恩发现啥了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2d720fdb3e104f33d21e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79ef4ca31ec9ebf63ad8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d720fdb3e104f33d21e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q6aaff346add10e00ee0f","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":76,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-26T18:14:09.250Z","text":"司法欺诈呀","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6aaff346add10e00ee0f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qfa4cb8ebafb99a299461","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":77,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-26T18:14:22.772Z","text":"全军覆没","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd0f7d2d712f84a3599d9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa4cb8ebafb99a299461","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd0f7d2d712f84a3599d9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qf5b79a9f2584a73adfe4","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":78,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-26T18:14:36.681Z","text":"台面上的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5b79a9f2584a73adfe4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q0568f7d6a088c9701f62","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":79,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T18:15:46.423Z","text":"哈哈哈","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6aaff346add10e00ee0f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0568f7d6a088c9701f62","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6aaff346add10e00ee0f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qc57d0a84c7f8064375a4","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":80,"speaker":"tan***","date":"2026-04-26T18:16:13.304Z","text":"没错","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfa4cb8ebafb99a299461","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc57d0a84c7f8064375a4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa4cb8ebafb99a299461","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q905bb590db30e4d290ad","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":81,"speaker":"tan***","date":"2026-04-26T18:17:41.431Z","text":"你们可以做自己认为正确的事，但是不要无谓树敌，就这一件事。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q79ef4ca31ec9ebf63ad8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q905bb590db30e4d290ad","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79ef4ca31ec9ebf63ad8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qf0317f8119d88b999ab8","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":82,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T18:19:18.786Z","text":"树敌 是个人行为","edited":false,"reply_to":"q905bb590db30e4d290ad","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0317f8119d88b999ab8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q905bb590db30e4d290ad","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q9ac5a0fe7a06d9319bb7","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":83,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T18:19:28.891Z","text":"大家都是自己上法庭 自己代表自己","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ac5a0fe7a06d9319bb7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qc76e7d99ae036f96d6f9","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":84,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T18:19:46.315Z","text":"真正的朋友，不可能变成敌人","edited":false,"reply_to":"q905bb590db30e4d290ad","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc76e7d99ae036f96d6f9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q905bb590db30e4d290ad","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qdaa8d7c0bcff3a17459a","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":85,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T18:19:46.920Z","text":"你不想树敌","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdaa8d7c0bcff3a17459a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qb05e1260437f83e43070","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":86,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T18:19:55.924Z","text":"不代表我也不想树","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb05e1260437f83e43070","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q6ca0801e181b986766c6","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":87,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T18:19:59.489Z","text":"你说的好像，敌人是树出来的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ca0801e181b986766c6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qc563a69b41c3c84f7e70","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":88,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T18:21:00.514Z","text":"敌人本来就是敌人，不是谁树的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc563a69b41c3c84f7e70","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qb82b2b9eaa27136d718b","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":89,"speaker":"tan***","date":"2026-04-26T18:21:07.572Z","text":"对于中间观望派来说，是树出来的。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6ca0801e181b986766c6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb82b2b9eaa27136d718b","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ca0801e181b986766c6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q3926b22148865b02416b","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":90,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T18:21:21.580Z","text":"这群里经常发言的几个人，经常吵架","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3926b22148865b02416b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q4ae28bc28fac70cdea85","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":91,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T18:21:39.279Z","text":"敌人之间 有可能甜言蜜语","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc563a69b41c3c84f7e70","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ae28bc28fac70cdea85","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc563a69b41c3c84f7e70","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qcbd78af5c18afb450290","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":92,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T18:21:46.043Z","text":"朋友之间 有可能互相攻击","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcbd78af5c18afb450290","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q8a3b7b0f374f6a30b0d8","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":93,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T18:21:58.364Z","text":"这些人根本不是完全赞同对方的观点","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a3b7b0f374f6a30b0d8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q5fd1c6a75282cba02646","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":94,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T18:21:59.413Z","text":"你管树不树敌这种事 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我现在是砸郭的","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19da996baa9a1b4db27d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q83bf8dff0e1eede52ecc","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":101,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-26T18:23:57.622Z","text":"自诉的人肯定都是超有个性的，还是不要教别人做事了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q905bb590db30e4d290ad","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83bf8dff0e1eede52ecc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q905bb590db30e4d290ad","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q29ded4a69b700e652950","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":102,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T18:25:04.573Z","text":"这群又不是搞政治的，又不参与竞选，中间派和我们有什么关系","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb82b2b9eaa27136d718b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29ded4a69b700e652950","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb82b2b9eaa27136d718b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q8ce524c2285b4ea8d6ae","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":103,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T18:25:23.012Z","text":"每个人愿意做什么就去做，不愿意拉倒","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ce524c2285b4ea8d6ae","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qa0b6c593b0ceea5a8fe0","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":104,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-26T18:26:51.244Z","text":"这个群最大的价值就是大家分享案件","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0b6c593b0ceea5a8fe0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q80dab63c0f5711852361","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":105,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-26T18:27:00.864Z","text":"细节","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80dab63c0f5711852361","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q12927d1482d7bbfc0b6a","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":106,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-26T18:29:21.776Z","text":"东拼西凑 搞明白了线索","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12927d1482d7bbfc0b6a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qd29164308d8f091fc556","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":107,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-26T18:30:33.023Z","text":"他人畜无害。我知道 😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0fbb803163308eb2013f","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd29164308d8f091fc556","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q75313ef0688311a86972","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":108,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T18:31:31.978Z","text":"他这个中间派被这群树敌了😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0fbb803163308eb2013f","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q75313ef0688311a86972","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q0c1caefaca4dac8a8ace","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":109,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-26T18:39:55.637Z","text":"联盟以为人多就会赢，但是美国崇尚的是个人英雄主义","edited":false,"reply_to":"q83bf8dff0e1eede52ecc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c1caefaca4dac8a8ace","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83bf8dff0e1eede52ecc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q16cc4c48013081c09523","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":110,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T18:50:30.349Z","text":"那个[删节：成员身份]明显就是小地鼠","edited":true,"reply_to":"q0c1caefaca4dac8a8ace","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q16cc4c48013081c09523","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c1caefaca4dac8a8ace","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q67db9c87e2edb81a5144","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":111,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T18:50:51.069Z","text":"他还说他代表6000人要听他的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q67db9c87e2edb81a5144","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q3a707022333d1ac2a003","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":112,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T18:51:37.675Z","text":"盖尔就诈骗犯一个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a707022333d1ac2a003","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qe1987a730ce48572efcf","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":113,"speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-04-26T18:58:13.263Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 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😂😂😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7398923359b5209f85cb","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6f49193bbe53cc416589","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q761e9cdf2cdc408d6ea1","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":117,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-26T20:24:47.704Z","text":"是不是敌人取决于你的立场，立场相同成不了敌人，你不要把观点之争看作敌对","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb82b2b9eaa27136d718b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q761e9cdf2cdc408d6ea1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb82b2b9eaa27136d718b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q5acab8095060778ea032","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":118,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-26T20:27:14.760Z","text":"走了？之前好像来过这样的，观点不同挥手就撤了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0fbb803163308eb2013f","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5acab8095060778ea032","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qe441d495bc4ecbb634e3","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":119,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-26T20:42:46.932Z","text":"螺丝的举动把海外民运的底裤都给扯下来了，被扯了也不敢说话\n\nhttps://x.com/baoliaogeming/status/2046178085134111045?s=46","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe441d495bc4ecbb634e3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q3999dc09268c9b9cf3af","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":120,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-26T21:16:55.353Z","text":"大妹子 😂😂😂。\n瑞恩 您可要把心思用在这个案子上啊，千万别被沈南鹏的燕子拿下。据说她还做在川普身边呢。（文北）","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4674e495a70edd68938e","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3999dc09268c9b9cf3af","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q76a82d6a9369586be931","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":121,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T21:17:29.725Z","text":"青藤打压一个妹子合适吗","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3999dc09268c9b9cf3af","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76a82d6a9369586be931","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3999dc09268c9b9cf3af","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qfecdb7a25b0693065eb8","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":122,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-26T21:18:03.150Z","text":"用2500美元捣乱。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfecdb7a25b0693065eb8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qa5a4fe13e046c14d9106","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":123,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-04-26T21:33:38.816Z","text":"他要是真的感到不可思议，就一定会过来这边群里核实。\n他明知故问。还在上演爱郭贼的路数","edited":false,"reply_to":"q379f2a711b441261ddc0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5a4fe13e046c14d9106","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q379f2a711b441261ddc0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q4c7ac40d335355c59b1a","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":124,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-26T21:46:10.934Z","text":"如果在量刑前能证明以下情况，法院可能会撤销案件：\n。起诉缺陷：起诉书（Indictment）存在根本性的法律漏洞，不构成犯罪。\n给你的建议：\n不要等待量刑：量刑一旦完成，法律门槛会变得更高（必须在 14 天内提交上诉通知）。\n关注“量刑排除”请求：你之前提到的“将投资排除在加重量刑之外”是一个更务实的切入点。如果量刑依据（如损失金额计算）被推翻，有时可能导致整个定罪的基础动摇。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c7ac40d335355c59b1a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qdd68371046d3412a666b","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":125,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-26T21:48:06.670Z","text":"那就这2点，起诉书漏洞和损失金额计算","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd68371046d3412a666b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qd0e040a08f37b3294b77","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":126,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-26T21:52:29.082Z","text":"你咱这么粗线条呢？26-364里面用的petitioner 是She. 是我第一个问并被确认了的。\n你这粗线条，咋能找到好妹子呀？😂","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7398923359b5209f85cb","reply_status":"not_public","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd0e040a08f37b3294b77","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"被回复内容暂不可用","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q421e4471163c95eeebc6","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":127,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-26T21:56:29.699Z","text":"1. 关于“起诉书漏洞” (Indictment Flaws) —— 通常无权干预\n在联邦刑事诉讼中，挑战起诉书的漏洞（如程序违法、控告不实等）属于被告人的宪法权利。\n检察官自由裁量权：根据 CVRA 的相关解释，受害者的权利不能被解释为可以阻碍检察官的起诉自由裁量权。\n角色限制：作为受害者，您可以就由于犯罪导致的伤害发表意见，但您无权要求法院撤销或修改起诉书的内容。这是辩方律师的职责范围。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q421e4471163c95eeebc6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q0f7d8d18380155148b08","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":128,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-04-26T21:57:00.315Z","text":"昨天看完他的直播，他的胡说八道让我跌眼镜。屁股决定脑子。他开始向[删节：成员身份]靠近了。","edited":true,"reply_to":"qa5a4fe13e046c14d9106","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0f7d8d18380155148b08","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5a4fe13e046c14d9106","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q080aadeb6b23a20dda2f","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":129,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T22:01:12.293Z","text":"第三方只能从损失开始打","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdd68371046d3412a666b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q080aadeb6b23a20dda2f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd68371046d3412a666b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q06f99f29ca640669d9af","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":130,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-26T22:04:17.852Z","text":"是啊，说无权干预起诉书","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06f99f29ca640669d9af","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q26ef3401d5f6b084c1b9","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":131,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T22:13:46.705Z","text":"但如果起诉书威胁到你第三方利益 也可以提","edited":false,"reply_to":"q06f99f29ca640669d9af","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26ef3401d5f6b084c1b9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06f99f29ca640669d9af","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q9440934cfe74eb5a5db8","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":132,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-26T22:14:07.691Z","text":"beginning 已经提出要求公布受害者名单和对应的损失金额了吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9440934cfe74eb5a5db8","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q292318112f72a021d151","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":133,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-26T22:14:44.738Z","text":"Ai分析的是，辩方主张检方没有证据证明是被告指控转的账。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9753270a9ef19a439fa2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q292318112f72a021d151","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9753270a9ef19a439fa2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qd56372d52bdaa0f9ac21","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":134,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T22:17:08.103Z","text":"比如司法欺诈 布雷迪违规 照理说受害者没权利提 但是如果检方你司法欺诈的目的是抢受害者钱 你就可以提","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd56372d52bdaa0f9ac21","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q2b8888b82d5e0a4317e6","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":135,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-26T22:18:19.695Z","text":"这些你们都已经提了，二巡是要量刑后裁决吧","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2b8888b82d5e0a4317e6","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q35658beb4c1bbc1b197a","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":136,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-26T22:19:43.834Z","text":"那我们现在优先打量刑前的损失金额，同时也要提交其它司法欺诈证据","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35658beb4c1bbc1b197a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q917c87d647a845f3d2a4","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":137,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-26T22:22:35.050Z","text":"也要看起诉书有没威胁我利益","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q917c87d647a845f3d2a4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qe7d72ce266d001b8a16d","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":138,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-26T22:29:43.128Z","text":"整个716-4 就是造成一个假象： 郭 je 非法洗钱  \n没有任何证据说明他们做的是非法的；没有任何证据说明郭参与了； 探员的证人1，其证词没有被法庭认定过；探员本身就是庭审证人没有被法庭审理过其观点。\n\n其他的更严重的检方违规/犯罪： Brady violation,  evidence sharing （notify the defense）， adversary testing, 瑞恩发现的司法欺诈 （这个他可以解释；相信会在司法文件里）。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q292318112f72a021d151","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe7d72ce266d001b8a16d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q292318112f72a021d151","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q336fcf889942aa9bc8ee","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":139,"speaker":"Sap***","date":"2026-04-26T22:30:21.085Z","text":"很遗憾，用户 [删节：隐私信息] 离开了 **郭文贵法庭文件，不禁言不删帖**。希望他一路好走。","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q336fcf889942aa9bc8ee","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q7056604516bb03baa512","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":140,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T22:41:51.176Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 我给你建议一下 如果这个案子还想继续玩两年 你们去把托雷斯给换了","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7056604516bb03baa512","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qb4da4bddb4c5c1eae740","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":141,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T22:42:15.128Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息]  现在托雷斯的心态已经崩溃了 随时自己推翻案件","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4da4bddb4c5c1eae740","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q4c965126249d41ed9a0c","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":142,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T22:42:49.326Z","text":"[删节：隐私信息] 托雷斯现在的心态 我敢保证 一旦我们开始发力 她一定会自己推翻","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c965126249d41ed9a0c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qa0a9f9dc13af2119c191","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":143,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-26T22:45:24.801Z","text":"可以以853n的身份开始证据，先合理推导出起诉书里程序不争议的地方，然后请求开示证据。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q917c87d647a845f3d2a4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0a9f9dc13af2119c191","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q917c87d647a845f3d2a4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qec1daa8bced44018ea20","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":144,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-26T22:46:55.289Z","text":"另外程序不正义推翻案件，在陪审团定罪之前，很容易推翻，那个时候主张驳回起诉书很容易。定罪之后就困难很多。辛普森案，也是在定罪之前。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec1daa8bced44018ea20","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q7f4647ab355f9e6a04cc","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":145,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-26T23:12:34.774Z","text":"一、Adv. No. 24-05249（第一综合替代自我诉讼）\n正式名称：Despins v. ACA Capital Group Ltd., et al.\n该诉讼于2024年2月14日提起，在刑事庭审期间被暂停，直到2024年7月18日刑事庭审结束后才恢复。  (GovInfo)\n被告分为两组：一组为\"杂项被告\"（Assorted Defendants），另一组为\"G-Club被告\"（G-Club Defendants），两组合计构成修订诉状中25个被告中的22个。  (Uscourts)\n确认在24-05249中的被告（来自法院裁决正文）：\n杂项被告包括：(1) ACA Capital Group, Ltd.；(2) Celestial Tide Limited；(3) G Fashion (CA)；(4) G Fashion Hold Co A Limited；(5) G Fashion Hold Co B Limited；(6) G Fashion International Limited；(7) GFashion Media Group Inc.；(8) GF IP, LLC；(9) GF Italy, LLC；(10) GFNY, Inc.；(11) Hamilton Capital Holding Limited；(12) Hamilton Investment Management Limited；(13) Hamilton Opportunity  (GovInfo) （Fund SPC）。G-Club被告包括G Club International Limited；另有William Je、Haoran He等名义所有人作为被告。  (GovInfo)\n关于Mountains of Spices LLC：检索结果显示，Mountains of Spices LLC是SEC民事诉讼（1:23-cv-02200）的被告，被指控违反证券法注册条款  (SEC.gov) ，但在破产法庭的24-05249中未找到该实体作为替代自我诉讼被告的记录。这对您的论证非常重要——如果受托人从未在破产法庭对Mountains of Spices提起替代自我之诉，那么就更谈不上替代自我被认定。\n二、Adv. No. 24-05322（第二综合替代自我诉讼）\n正式名称：Despins v. AA Global Ventures Limited, et al.\n该案被称为\"第二综合替代自我诉讼\"（Second Omnibus Alter Ego Action），与24-05249并列构成两个综合替代自我案件。  (Epiq11) 具体被告名单在公开检索中未获完整文本，需通过PACER查阅原始文件。\n谁有精力去查一下，Adv. No. 24-05322（第二综合替代自我诉讼）这个子案里，都有哪些实体和个人被列为了被告。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f4647ab355f9e6a04cc","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q2f3fbc058ab63e275e69","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":146,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T23:14:04.297Z","text":"rico都成立了","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7f4647ab355f9e6a04cc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f3fbc058ab63e275e69","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f4647ab355f9e6a04cc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q44fe546b95e245d80faf","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":147,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T23:14:09.432Z","text":"为什么还需要这个","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44fe546b95e245d80faf","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q899034b50ff8299888c6","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":148,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-26T23:15:23.964Z","text":"2025年，ACA Capital Group, Ltd的替代自我诉讼还在扯皮，之前luc就跟李亚等灭共演员配合说是替被告欺诈转移被呈现给陪审团和法庭，属于严重的误导法庭和陪审团。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q44fe546b95e245d80faf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q899034b50ff8299888c6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44fe546b95e245d80faf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q08d8ec6246b98ab2143d","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":149,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T23:16:10.558Z","text":"那rico都成立了 为什么这个案子还要扯皮","edited":false,"reply_to":"q899034b50ff8299888c6","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08d8ec6246b98ab2143d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q899034b50ff8299888c6","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q46d0a04641bc27f1f398","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":150,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-26T23:16:15.177Z","text":"灭共演员的证词属于可被排除的证词，这些证词被排除后，rico就不会成立。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q44fe546b95e245d80faf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46d0a04641bc27f1f398","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44fe546b95e245d80faf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qdd7a2ba0e5367b406890","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":151,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T23:16:22.813Z","text":"直接引用不就完了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd7a2ba0e5367b406890","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qdd584894c024d8cd6a91","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":152,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-26T23:17:00.110Z","text":"托雷斯在主动延期里，点了826，826就是在纠正ACA Capital Group, Ltd不是被告的家族基金。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd584894c024d8cd6a91","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q77b28747ea90a45b7445","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":153,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-26T23:19:04.728Z","text":"刑事结果只能作为证据来证明替代自我成立，只有这一项不一定成立，不能自动证明。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q08d8ec6246b98ab2143d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77b28747ea90a45b7445","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08d8ec6246b98ab2143d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qd32844e1e03b22e8aae9","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":154,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-26T23:22:23.365Z","text":"在2025年，曼宁还在驳回子案的被告，就是那些实体，要求撤销案件的动议，说受托人合理的主张了这些实体属于债务人的替代自我。现在的情况是，在今年7月份，再开听证来裁定是不是。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd32844e1e03b22e8aae9","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q0d1f9a9ca7a8d96f261f","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":155,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-26T23:23:53.416Z","text":"然后量刑延期后的时间是6月29日，依然在替代自我案之前。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d1f9a9ca7a8d96f261f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q99092aa86fe4303b5c27","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":156,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-26T23:24:07.509Z","text":"估计是想用判决结果作为证据。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99092aa86fe4303b5c27","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qaaaaa92d9d3778127d93","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":157,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-26T23:24:41.109Z","text":"它们这招互相引用，循环论证的计划还在稳步推进。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaaaaa92d9d3778127d93","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q2ebc6223749c24067b44","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":158,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T23:26:22.387Z","text":"量刑和这个关系不大啊感觉  量刑多少 和替代自我 感觉扯不上","edited":false,"reply_to":"q0d1f9a9ca7a8d96f261f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ebc6223749c24067b44","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d1f9a9ca7a8d96f261f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q3d665e2b8b63477db630","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":159,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-26T23:27:00.622Z","text":"量刑，是法庭确认陪审团的裁决。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q2ebc6223749c24067b44","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d665e2b8b63477db630","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ebc6223749c24067b44","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qa6956472955bc71dddbd","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":160,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T23:27:23.208Z","text":"但怎么确认","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3d665e2b8b63477db630","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6956472955bc71dddbd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d665e2b8b63477db630","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q022ef0b09e16dd08a2f0","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":161,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T23:27:33.640Z","text":"你不管量几年都确认","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q022ef0b09e16dd08a2f0","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q11d404827894407fa24f","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":162,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T23:27:44.546Z","text":"何必等到量刑呢","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11d404827894407fa24f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qf581cc972123f89017fa","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":163,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-26T23:28:22.643Z","text":"法律上就是有这个确认环节才能作为证据，如果只是陪审团裁决，证据效力弱得多。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa6956472955bc71dddbd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf581cc972123f89017fa","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6956472955bc71dddbd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qc5d5b9d6fb8616ca1202","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":164,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T23:28:32.687Z","text":"哦","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf581cc972123f89017fa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5d5b9d6fb8616ca1202","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf581cc972123f89017fa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q758cb5221f2af570fdb4","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":165,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T23:28:35.061Z","text":"有道理","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q758cb5221f2af570fdb4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qbc0be5676387ab2d0322","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":166,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-26T23:34:24.681Z","text":"重要的是，陪审团认定有rico，也不自动就认定检方的全部rico叙事，只能证明有一个共谋协议，被告参与了这个共谋协议。像本案中，按照正常的法律流程走，第三方，比如gclub，成功证明其资产不能被政府没收，也会影响到替代自我诉讼里gclub 属于替代自我是否成立。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc0be5676387ab2d0322","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qde81d78470d7008f70e1","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":167,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-04-26T23:41:05.604Z","text":"陪审团可能连参与审判这个案子的能力都没有","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf581cc972123f89017fa","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qde81d78470d7008f70e1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf581cc972123f89017fa","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q3f8b5800656b21bb815c","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":168,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-26T23:42:59.866Z","text":"这个怎么？香草山不是替代自我？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q7f4647ab355f9e6a04cc","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f8b5800656b21bb815c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f4647ab355f9e6a04cc","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q14dad0a4dc7e025368a5","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":169,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-26T23:43:39.252Z","text":"没有在第一组里，是否在第二组，我没有查到。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q3f8b5800656b21bb815c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14dad0a4dc7e025368a5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f8b5800656b21bb815c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q1a24ff5cfac2a3cb1cd3","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":170,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T00:30:00.923Z","text":"关于买Mahwah的Taurus公司 是不是郭的alter ego 这个状态也是pending 等量刑","edited":false,"reply_to":"q14dad0a4dc7e025368a5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a24ff5cfac2a3cb1cd3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q14dad0a4dc7e025368a5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qae90dad7dcdc59cc770b","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":171,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T00:30:56.379Z","text":"我在找Luc 进刑事案 最早涉及alter ego的file 等下发这边","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae90dad7dcdc59cc770b","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q3bafc3ec40018862172a","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":172,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T00:51:08.974Z","text":"BVI也已经进来刑事案，是第三方身份，感觉应该会有动作吧","edited":false,"reply_to":"qbc0be5676387ab2d0322","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3bafc3ec40018862172a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc0be5676387ab2d0322","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q8feaf04406d3a18de66c","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":173,"speaker":"Sap***","date":"2026-04-27T00:59:43.785Z","text":"欢迎 ［用户 xin***］ 来到 **郭文贵法庭文件，不禁言不删帖**! 你可以在聊天区交流郭文贵刑事案件，畅所欲言。这里有新老联盟农场羊帮质疑帮绝对不可能给你的言论自由。不禁言不删帖，唯一要求是不要在聊天区刷屏。这里所有言论只代表发言者自己的非专业个人意见，如有任何疑虑，请咨询专业人士。\n\n各房间功能说明：\n\n想快速了解郭文贵案件 ->  法庭文件分类索引，老郭案件内容\n想学习自诉 -> 自诉pro se 说明及参考\n想骂人 -> 对骂发泄房间\n想刷屏 -> 揭发自诉陷阱","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8feaf04406d3a18de66c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q086c4460a0ba980fc476","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":174,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T01:00:12.874Z","text":"她的意思是，庭审阶段，展示给陪审团的资金flow，ACA capital是误导性的，陪审团会以为是家族基金，做出错误判断","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdd584894c024d8cd6a91","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q086c4460a0ba980fc476","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd584894c024d8cd6a91","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q9221e8fd9d611476d3ab","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":175,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T01:10:53.058Z","text":"刑事案检方，和破产案luc合作，卖Mahwah，估计确实卖出事了\nTaurus公司，资金来源貌似也是通过ACA capital，被luc认为是郭的alter ego，一直扯皮到现在\nTaurus的辩护律师，估计对刑事案没那么了解，没注意到ACA capital的问题","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9221e8fd9d611476d3ab","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qdac64bffe901e96f224f","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":176,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T01:18:53.403Z","text":"检方应该会卖luc，造假太多\n虚假债权人，虚假Mahwah产权，通过alter ego追BVI追到了铁板，很可能就把这个叙事给毁了","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdac64bffe901e96f224f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q5333044cccf9a2785787","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":177,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-27T01:25:58.719Z","text":"估计它们的资产瓜分协议，就像案件里面提到的不起诉协议，诉辩协议一样，不会公开在卷宗里。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdac64bffe901e96f224f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5333044cccf9a2785787","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdac64bffe901e96f224f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q03e9314bccb315d82d6f","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":178,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T01:26:22.730Z","text":"［用户 kir***］\nluc威胁郭 要250million","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q03e9314bccb315d82d6f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q9cd6716c8e8effcd3db5","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":179,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T01:27:00.849Z","text":"这个文件谁写的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9cd6716c8e8effcd3db5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qec98175205763d81fed4","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":180,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-27T01:29:55.086Z","text":"看来luc的敲诈勒索罪也逃不掉。luc在破产庭和南区的所有违法行为，佐证之前的敲诈。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q03e9314bccb315d82d6f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec98175205763d81fed4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q03e9314bccb315d82d6f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q01cb9a73f7af7cf8af12","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":181,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-27T01:33:09.100Z","text":"我不明白，他那么明目张胆敲诈，七哥不可以告他？听直播我就觉得不可思议","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01cb9a73f7af7cf8af12","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q6ac5daa24f71e3df4d54","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":182,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T01:33:26.254Z","text":"老郭有一百种方法","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ac5daa24f71e3df4d54","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qc2d64ee03ac9c3ff1c4c","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":183,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T01:33:32.846Z","text":"但是他选择被动挨打","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc2d64ee03ac9c3ff1c4c","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qb45a34a83ddac98cb14f","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":184,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T01:33:39.664Z","text":"这就是他的目的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb45a34a83ddac98cb14f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q1560e0b7c9077e782582","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":185,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T01:33:54.203Z","text":"这样才能把所有人都卷进来","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1560e0b7c9077e782582","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q7960d0dc9be3b2f319f7","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":186,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-27T01:35:17.070Z","text":"是呀，现在纠正和剔除虚假债权人就行了？已经误导了陪审团就这样算了？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q086c4460a0ba980fc476","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7960d0dc9be3b2f319f7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q086c4460a0ba980fc476","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q255f46c88a4ed3074d84","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":187,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T01:41:25.369Z","text":"luc先6月告诉刑事案检方，他认为Mahwah是郭的，然后得到处置权\n之后7月立刻起诉Mahwah的实际拥有公司Taurus是郭的alter ego\n目前案子还在pending，要等郭的量刑，但Mahwah已经在拍卖","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q255f46c88a4ed3074d84","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qfa4f00bc8f766fa80744","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":188,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-27T01:44:54.926Z","text":"那这个关系到损失金额认定，没结果前不能确定金额根本不能量刑","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1a24ff5cfac2a3cb1cd3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa4f00bc8f766fa80744","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a24ff5cfac2a3cb1cd3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q0dd7b86666dd7ae298d6","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":189,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-04-27T01:44:54.999Z","text":"Rico共产党搞他们的几十万亿美元吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qc2d64ee03ac9c3ff1c4c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0dd7b86666dd7ae298d6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc2d64ee03ac9c3ff1c4c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q50435e0bbea58df16ec6","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":190,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T01:45:24.760Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ 量个鸟\nluc不能总是缩头乌龟","edited":true,"reply_to":"qfa4f00bc8f766fa80744","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50435e0bbea58df16ec6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa4f00bc8f766fa80744","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q5b3f4f678f8b3e1af07a","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":191,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T01:47:02.156Z","text":"luc诉Taurus的案子 就是关于alter ego\n和BVI案子 性质类似","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b3f4f678f8b3e1af07a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qe9bc243ea686ad8bfbbd","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":192,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T01:47:52.255Z","text":"这里就是类似tony的司法冲突了 破产案bvi说不是郭控制   刑事案 rico又成立","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9bc243ea686ad8bfbbd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q6027fd1c6068461840a7","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":193,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-27T01:47:56.018Z","text":"咱们如果把833给拆了， 分析里面的所有内容细节，发现检方等的造假， 并且这些自诉的 这些”受害人”， 每个人都根据自己的情况 给法官发动议， 那么这个案子还能继续吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6027fd1c6068461840a7","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qf153a52b64c04ba46c46","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":194,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T01:48:31.191Z","text":"反正发现问题就可以给南区发","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6027fd1c6068461840a7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf153a52b64c04ba46c46","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6027fd1c6068461840a7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q33a707b75c62cc4a59d5","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":195,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T01:48:37.833Z","text":"无所谓 反正不上传","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q33a707b75c62cc4a59d5","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q6bd0f5e3147b4a98621e","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":196,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T01:48:40.286Z","text":"就发呗","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6bd0f5e3147b4a98621e","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qc3d3fad241486da21e09","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":197,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-27T01:49:06.221Z","text":"刑事案检方 最佳选择就是卖luc\n到处造假 “误导”检方","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe9bc243ea686ad8bfbbd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc3d3fad241486da21e09","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9bc243ea686ad8bfbbd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q2bf697cf6be179a31b48","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":198,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T01:49:19.124Z","text":"是的","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2bf697cf6be179a31b48","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"qf0ceddd6bd94ac9e6cc3","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":199,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-27T01:49:33.964Z","text":"luc卖拱卒","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0ceddd6bd94ac9e6cc3","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"},{"id":"q4ebbb30543c09319f7ca","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":200,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-04-27T01:49:34.941Z","text":"即使不上传， 是不是也可以给二巡一个 reservation for record only？","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ebbb30543c09319f7ca","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106"}],"prev_batch_id":"batch-000105","next_batch_id":"batch-000107"}